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  • @tombaranyai6683
    @tombaranyai6683 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    I remember when 1999 was the future. I suddenly feel old.

    • @badwolftina8716
      @badwolftina8716 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miroslavhradel Yeeees, I remember them as well! 🤣

    • @MarcoNegrisEye
      @MarcoNegrisEye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@miroslavhradelthe millennium bug 😂

    • @OscarsBadFurDay
      @OscarsBadFurDay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahh yea me too , feels like an alternate universe now it’s so long ago.

  • @AM2K2
    @AM2K2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Ah the Rio mp3 player...such nostalgia. Just drag and drop the files on...remember when I got given an ipod and I had to 'sync' to iTunes - nightmare.

  • @saltalmighty1141
    @saltalmighty1141 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Hah i remember discovering this phenomenon with my friends back in that day, and it was glorious ! we found so much new music back in the day .. it actually made me buy more cd's legally cause i wanted better quality , plus back then it even forced certain cd-shops to discount cd's .

  • @LapsangTe
    @LapsangTe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Sadly the people who thought that the record shops would adapt to the new reality were wrong. At that time there were at least twenty record shops in my hometown, Gothenburg (Sweden). Now there is only one left that sells new records, plus a few who sell second hand records. I really miss walking from shop to shop, looking for exciting records. Browsing the internet for music is easier, but not as fun. I still buy CD's though, since I don't like streaming.

    • @primalconvoy
      @primalconvoy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Japan, Tower Records and HMV are still open, as Japan isn't really a first adopter of new technology.

    • @pyeltd.5457
      @pyeltd.5457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@primalconvoy
      Yes they are. HMV is a UK store that sucks

    • @googlesucks6029
      @googlesucks6029 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually got into a couple of my favourite bands browsing the CD shops and picking a CD because the band name and cover art looked cool.

    • @LapsangTe
      @LapsangTe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@googlesucks6029 Yes, that was exactly what I meant. It was very exciting to explore record shops.

    • @davenz000
      @davenz000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The shops had no say in what the insane record labels and producers wanted and resisted.

  • @nigelcarren
    @nigelcarren 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Back from an age when in the winter I would genuinely forget to put the heating on, because my huge CRT monitor heated the room!
    To such an extent, the computer room became the drying room! 🌞👀

    • @HikikomoriDev
      @HikikomoriDev 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ...Something was very wrong with that display.

  • @hoilst265
    @hoilst265 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    "...next Leonardo DiCaprio move..." That would be The Beach.

    • @sithius99
      @sithius99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      His current girlfriend wasn't even born.

    • @Jay-O_Carlow
      @Jay-O_Carlow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sithius99 *LMFAO*

  • @dynamohums
    @dynamohums 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Winamp, Napster, Windows 95/8/blah, crappy MP3 audio quality - those were the days :).

    • @user-ve3gh5xg9q
      @user-ve3gh5xg9q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And crapy Windows

    • @dynamohums
      @dynamohums 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ve3gh5xg9q yes, as noted!

    • @MarcoNegrisEye
      @MarcoNegrisEye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kazaa was the one 😂

    • @BenjyDale
      @BenjyDale 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still use Winamp in 2024. No really I do :-)

    • @dynamohums
      @dynamohums 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BenjyDale If it still works then why change it 😀. I've been using AIMP but I may give Winamp another go. TBH I'd forgotten that it still may be available... I recall it had some suspect actions back in the day but if it's now a well behaved app then I'll give it another go 👍

  • @perge_music
    @perge_music 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The internet pre 2005 was such an exciting place for discovery of new things. I loved spending ages on Yahoo and IRC chat rooms downloading bootlegs and rare recordings that you just couldn't otherwise buy, or sourcing club music that was all white label and impossible to buy.

    • @scarpergirl
      @scarpergirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It felt like a vast world that you'd never finish exploring, and then after corporations started taking over the internet, the web now feels like it's dominated by 6 or 7 main websites that you have to go to for everything. Like TH-cam, for example.

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scarpergirl YOu can still rip off songs from TH-cam and others and save them as MP3 files. Piracy is still alive.

    • @scarpergirl
      @scarpergirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bardo0007 Ripping songs off TH-cam is a stupid way of getting songs. First of all they're uploaded to TH-cam as video files, so they get horrifically compressed, then when you save MP3 files (a compressed format) from an already compressed TH-cam video, you end up with super compressed files which is a low quality listening experience.
      I do pirate, and never stream, but I do it the way that doesn't end up with a load of poor quality files. I think you missed my point anyway.

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scarpergirl I agree about the quality I download but its good enough for my headphones and my ears. I must have at least 5000 songs of "low" quality

  • @StephenOBG
    @StephenOBG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:09 So who was expecting that accent after hearing the voice 7:43? What a sweet lass.

  • @richard-davies
    @richard-davies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    6:20 They filter out lots of rubbish, yeah right. Unlike the huge amounts of crap that gets played these days. Problem back then the music industry was stupidly slow to catch on, same problem eventually affected the film industry with internet piracy.

  • @jamesfx2
    @jamesfx2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    It's the late 90s, it's all about ROI. Radio on internet.

  • @mumfnah
    @mumfnah 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Still have one of my first USB MP3 players, only 32MB capacity, and it atill has the tunes i downloaded from Napster and pit on it.
    It was slow downloading tunes from there and woild drop connection often, but was fun finding new music

  • @minixtvbox
    @minixtvbox 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    7:00 coked up city trader

  • @tinyminus
    @tinyminus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    music? on the internet? i doubt it would ever have the bandwidth for something like that...

  • @ctid107
    @ctid107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ahh Netscape, those were the days

    • @BenjyDale
      @BenjyDale 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Firefox here, which is still essentially Netscape

  • @simmadpaul2880
    @simmadpaul2880 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My early 00s setup was a mediocre slow as shite PC, Winamp, Kazaa and a 60gb Creative Nomad Zen Xtra MP3 player and a couple of hours to download a single track over dial up modem. What a time?

  • @michaelturner4457
    @michaelturner4457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    2024 I'm still buying CDs. 😊

    • @1walkgirl
      @1walkgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      2024, still buying vinyl☺

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. I love CDs, always will.

    • @davidhamm7909
      @davidhamm7909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And vinyl’s made a major comeback as well

    • @zippy963
      @zippy963 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yup still buy CDs.

    • @csr7080
      @csr7080 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But why??
      I mean, vinyl I kind of understand, it's a very different medium with large covers that are quite nice to look at. But CDs feel like the worst of all worlds?

  • @whiteonggoy7009
    @whiteonggoy7009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Remember napster

    • @MarcoNegrisEye
      @MarcoNegrisEye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Remember Kazaa? 😂

  • @kitcapri3608
    @kitcapri3608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Looks like ‘the man’ managed to get it. Time to go back to physical copys!

  • @ScribesKartel
    @ScribesKartel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is very good quality

  • @jamessmith99731
    @jamessmith99731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Soulseek is still going.

  • @waziammm
    @waziammm 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:23 Some real flat screen technology there

  • @kjaergaard12345
    @kjaergaard12345 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    listen to DI radio streaming on a modem was fun 20 years ago

  • @davidhamm7909
    @davidhamm7909 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love Kate Rusby. 😀🎻❤️

  • @NeilStudd
    @NeilStudd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ahhh 1999, when the media were worried about whether downloading a 32kbps rip of a Catatonia single was going to kill the industry.

    • @TC2290-wh5cb
      @TC2290-wh5cb 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well it did in the end.

  • @MultiVince95
    @MultiVince95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thursday 19th August 1999

  • @bardo0007
    @bardo0007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still use MP3 today, haven't bought a CD in 20 years.

  • @primalconvoy
    @primalconvoy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Asian Dub Foundation read the room, that idiot from the music industry didn't and now we've got Apple Music, Spotify and TH-cam.

  • @HikikomoriDev
    @HikikomoriDev 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ...I think this had a disturbing effect no matter how it played out, but now it's even worst with streaming applications, everything just deteriorated, more and more. I don't know how society wants to be that low or allows itself to be that low.

  • @pyeltd.5457
    @pyeltd.5457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember in 2008 dad rushing in for me to download this new music thing called Spotify that he just heard on Radio 4

    • @benwherlock9869
      @benwherlock9869 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Music corporation evil replaced by tech corporation evil. Sweet.

  • @junosix2453
    @junosix2453 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    3:10 Atari Mega ST

    • @scottstevens78
      @scottstevens78 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cubase innit. It was the way to do it then.

    • @primalconvoy
      @primalconvoy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope, the Amiga was the dominant music computer at the time.

    • @StephenOBG
      @StephenOBG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Soul II Soul !

    • @pkaulf
      @pkaulf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@primalconvoy In 1999? I was still an Amiga diehard at that point in time, but it really wasn't. If you wanted to run Cubase or Logic which were the de facto standard back then, you had to have a Mac, PC or an ST.

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@primalconvoy Not among the professionals. Atari ST the midi computer everyone used. You could not buy a Cubase license for Amiga

  • @shneeblee180
    @shneeblee180 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I dont see it catching on 😂

    • @clavichord
      @clavichord 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wasn't internet a brief fad of the late 90s?

    • @tomsixsix
      @tomsixsix 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Can't ever see why people would stop listening to the radio and buying shiny discs, pfft silly future predictions.

    • @eiffe
      @eiffe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed. Now most people are paying a monthly subscription fee for music they don't even own.

  • @pixearles
    @pixearles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Narrator: The record companies in fact did not have any good ideas.

  • @betagombar9022
    @betagombar9022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's CDs for me, yes call me old fashioned. If I still had a record player I'd be playing the vinyl I have tucked away.

  • @jaygatsby3039
    @jaygatsby3039 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1999: "I think they're exploiting and ripping off artists"
    2024: Yup, still are.

  • @OscarsBadFurDay
    @OscarsBadFurDay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:54 That guy looks like he’s been taking something illegal.

  • @catvisimo
    @catvisimo หลายเดือนก่อน

    wait for DC++

  • @RoderikvanReekum
    @RoderikvanReekum 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing technology really incredible, sending music over the internet.

  • @Floydcheung
    @Floydcheung 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1999

  • @andrewrodgers9719
    @andrewrodgers9719 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the bbc guy interviewing people the same guy who interviewed Morrissey and George Michael?

  • @ReelFilm2016
    @ReelFilm2016 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grokster!

  • @NandiCollector
    @NandiCollector 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    *Watching this in 2024, it seems so absurd! It's like, cavemen have discovered fire! I bet, people watching in 2070 something from 2024, will feel the same for us!* 😂😂

    • @reifhand99
      @reifhand99 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You had to be there 🤣

  • @PassiveAgressive319
    @PassiveAgressive319 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And then the industry stepped in. Sued Napster and allowed Apple to develop the ipod

  • @MicrophonesInTheTrees
    @MicrophonesInTheTrees 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Digital recording ruined the production of music. Digital distribution ruined the business.

  • @zaftra
    @zaftra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    90's got it so right they the way people are dressed and styled wouldn't look out of place today. Any other decade before that people were of their time. If if wasn't for the computers as a big as a shed you wouldn't think it was 25 years ago.

    • @alfsmith4936
      @alfsmith4936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know if they got it so right, or nobody has any vision of a future anymore, so they dress like people in the past.

    • @zaftra
      @zaftra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alfsmith4936 nobody goes out dressed in 50,60,70, 80's fashion, ythey would look stupid inless going to a theme night, some not of course, but most fashiuon you could still get away with goign out.

    • @Factz_over_emotions
      @Factz_over_emotions 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zaftra That's false lol you could get away with wearing clothes from practically any era as long as it looked smart and not over the top, heck jeans jackets are from the 50's.

    • @zaftra
      @zaftra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Factz_over_emotions enjoy your shoulder pads and flares!

    • @Factz_over_emotions
      @Factz_over_emotions 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zaftra Did i not say apart from over the top styles or are you just using extremes for the sake of it?

  • @-______-______-
    @-______-______- 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The end product from having a manager, who finds the artist a professional producer, along with engineers and people making tea etc has been killed off.
    The quality of music and production has gone down, the profits for the artists have disappeared, whereas the profits for the owners of the labels and streaming platforms has increased
    The experience of listening to music has been compromised with distracting ads, and they have quashed every artist with a voice.
    They don't want another Lennon, Dylan, Bowie or Stones. They only want tame and non thought-provoking drivel like Ed Sheeran.
    And nobody stands up to this totalitarian decimation of artistic and creative endeavour, because they are too distracted by their phones.
    Not the world I want to live in.

  • @AlexA-bn2wb
    @AlexA-bn2wb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Streaming killed the music industry and all its creativity

    • @DavidMander-rs4uk
      @DavidMander-rs4uk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Streaming absolutely sucks and is a pile of junk!! 🗑️👎

  • @AchtungEnglander
    @AchtungEnglander 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No one saw the future. It's difficult to accurately predict what is going to happen. Often someone or something comes along that is left field of current thinking.
    The music industry adapted to promoting live events and free music became a byproduct for advertising.

  • @09021983
    @09021983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d rather prefer buying my CD’s from Woolworths or HMV the internet is far too slow to download these MP3’s 😂

  • @gvi341984
    @gvi341984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Then Spotify changed the industry now tours only way for money

  • @zaftra
    @zaftra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WimeWire, I'm looking at you.

  • @zitzong
    @zitzong 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir

  • @stephenwilliams926
    @stephenwilliams926 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25yrs ago 😮

  • @nicky29031977
    @nicky29031977 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good riddance to extortionately priced CD's.

  • @jayme69
    @jayme69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Digital piracy was in danger of killing the music industry back in the early days of the internet. Not unlike listening to an album in your local record store before purchasing, I used to download an album through Limewire, give it a listen and if I liked it, go out and buy the CD. It's a pity this was abused but people literally downloading hundreds, if not thousands of albums for free. I use Spotify to listen to albums now before deciding to buy a physical copy. At the end of the day, the artists, writers, promoters, distributers and retailers all need to be paid #LoveMusic

  • @StephenOBG
    @StephenOBG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Asian Dub Foundation.

    • @pkaulf
      @pkaulf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the track they were working on was Return of Django from The Beach soundtrack

  • @porly33
    @porly33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best sticking with Limewire.

  • @1walkgirl
    @1walkgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    winamp. still have that one😁

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use MusicBee. It's brilliant. 😉

    • @benwherlock9869
      @benwherlock9869 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Winamp! Wow, that's a blast from the past. 🥰

  • @Ravendarkwytch
    @Ravendarkwytch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah I don’t think this will be popular, next you will be trying to convince us that movies will be watchable on our phones

  • @user-ve3gh5xg9q
    @user-ve3gh5xg9q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    and today, with one touch of a finger, they have it all on their... computer... sorry, phone🤫😀

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TinLeadHammer That's why I rip the songs off TH-cam to MP3 and keep them on my phone. Piracy never died

  • @RolandoRatas
    @RolandoRatas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm so tired and so bored by this I'm going to take a short napster.