WB Is STILL Doubling Down On Live Service Games - Luke Reacts
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WB is one of the dumbest companies in America. Even when they have massive successes like Hogwarts Legacy and Barbie, the sheer volume of their terrible decisions prevents them from achieving any real momentum. They refuse to get out of their own way.
You said it best, amen
Only Sony can compete in pure incompetence handling goldmine IPs
They have Hogwarts Legacy, a complete old school game, that generated 1 billion dollars in revenue only in the first two weeks, and also have Sushi Squad, that is a shitty live service game that can't even maintain a player count above 500. And their conclusion is to make a shitty live service Harry Potter game? Those execs deserve every cent of theirs million dollars bonuses, this is hilarious.
I honestly don’t even get how do they get to those positions if they are so disconnected from reality
And "good" live service games need more budget and attention to make it successful. They actually losing more money by focusing on live services
@@Kolket1389 for wall st thats a feature
Let it all crumble at this point
It is crumbling. Expensive SP games are in free fall at the moment.
@@bigbox1431 we need to go back to 2D side scrollers and Turnbased RPGs.
@@dkres82Fk no. Only boomers enjoy that shit.
This combined with RoosterTeeth getting dissolved really makes things look terrible for WB. They either need to completely change their mindset on how they approach all of their media companies, or just give up. At this point it's just kinda sad to see, investors really are ruining everything.
I miss rooster teeth man. Don’t know about you but them and Machinima, were my childhood.
@@themajesticmoose8147 same here but rooster teeth survived way longer than I think it was supposed to ngl, for a while there the only time news came out about them was when some hanus crap was going on
Nah RT was way overdue tbh
An important first step: MAKE A GOOD GAME.
Funniest thing is Marvel Avengers was a total flop, then they release "kill the justice league" and it also fails massivly and now they double down on free to play and mobile games.
This is what it looks like when a company is hell bent on *not* listening to the consumer.
....and Marvels was delisted years before KTJL was released, so its not like they had no time to either scrap or pivot.
If you go show WB that "turn the graph upside down" trick, they'll probably make you CEO.
I really am impressed. How can you look at a game that killed everyones childhood characters who they wanted to have a game for and a character in the single most influential superhero game series of all time and think its not live service enough.
Self destructive activity. Those executives don’t deserve that position 😂
I love watching wb and suicide squad fail its so satisfying
You should never wish on someone’s downfall
@@Okarun-VVVyou shouldn’t. But we sure as shit will continue to do so.
@@Okarun-VVV This isn’t a “someone “ it’s a group of wealthy investors and faceless investing companies . They don’t need you to stand up for them and they definitely don’t care .
@@jaygee5874 I’m not standing up for them at all. I’m just saying it’s never good to A failure upon someone or something
Wb has turned to the dark side of gaming
Everyone’s playing chess meanwhile, WB is playing bankruptcy
WB been killing it!! (Their own IP’s from the inside)
All of this WB/SS content takes me back to 2017 when EA and Battlefront Poo were content engines for Laymen Gaming and YongYea.
Laymen gaming, i loved those videos. But man, has it been that long?! 😅
I guess this is their way of saying: "If we can't have it, nobody can have it!"
Warner bros be like... Yo, let's set our money on fire.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
I mean, if they want to double down, then they should be prepared for the consequences.
Prime example of: SpongeBob's How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man? meme comes to mind.
I bought Hogwarts BECAUSE it wasn't infested with MTX's or BP's. You can tell passion was the main driving force for that game and not making the most amount of money possible.
Them doubling-down seems incredibly stupid. If they do layoffs they better start with the decision makers/execs at WB or Rocksteady because we could have told them how badly this will end way before they come to that conclusion and millions of dollars already wasted.
Barbie is a hit, lesson learned: More movies about toys
Hogwarts is a hit, lesson learned: More games as a service
Corporations cannot concede that a clear creative vision is the key to success because that is the one thing they cannot control
When I read an article talking about it, I was super confused and had to do a double take to understand what it was saying.
5:30 WAIT FOR IT TO HIT A Home Run LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have they considered making the games fun?
Fun in videogames? Now that's just INCONCEIVABLE!!!
- Some WB Executive probably
Not sure that executives understand what fun is, conceptually
They want a lot of money quickly and over time and I get that. But why don’t they get that we don’t really want more live service games? There’s so many of them right now, some really good, most of them are _really_ bad. Everyone’s competing with the same thing so no one’s really winning other than Helldivers. Genshin and Star Rail are the only live service games I play personally and that works for me. I don’t spend a lot of money on them but at the same time, I don’t mind how much you can buy in the games because they’re *free.* People don’t often want to spend money on a game that already costs $70-$100
A Quidditch game being live service makes sense and could work. A regular Hogwarts Legacy game being live service and always online is a stupid idea and hopefully not what they’re considering
Tbh maybe I'm old school... but I can't see Live Service elements in a Single-Player game. I would like for my SP games to be "Hogwarts Legacy", Playstation Studios type releases, where you buy it once and that's it. You can make side content, patches, etc, but "games-as-a-service" elements? IF they belong anywhere, they belong exclusively in MP games. "Seasons", post-launch content, microtranscations / cosmetics, map switch-ups, expansions. Idk if everyone else sees it this way, but I'm personally hoping this is where the gaming market goes after Suicide Squad.
You're right. I can't stand live service games. But I still play some with my friends here and there. Something to use to spend time together and what-not. Would never play them solo. And my most favorite games are all single player feature complete games
The 3 hour Valaha critic is how I discovered Luke’s channel
If they do it the Rockstar way with a great single player and a separate online portion where you are a student with other players, that could be good.
Go ahead. Let them. But I won't be buying/playing 😅.
I actually wouldn't mind if they just keep adding content to the next Hogwarts game. If they want to add more skins, missions, areas of the map, etc... that's fine. As long as it's not a regular live service game with a battle pass, never ending story, repeated missions, etc.. We know what WB will do though. They'll do Avengers with a Harry Potter skin over it.
I'm worried for Wonder Woman now…
We live in the UK Rocksteady has no cost of health care our taxes pay for our health care unless you go private and most companies don't have private health care benefits.
Can’t wait to see this game fully die like avengers.
Luke won’t do a video on the Sweet Baby Inc.
Unless its steam. Crazy sales and people 9:02 will buy games they dont want. My library exceeds my capability
They've lost their minds 😂
Luke! Don't let the Valhalla announcer joke die, it never gets old!
It's impressive that even executives love to watch it burn. We all love to watch it burn....
If making money trumps making a good game, the devs themselves believe in, then what we get is live service manure.
I have never spent a single dime on skins and other cosmetic nonsense, and I never will. I do however spend large amounts of money on buying good games, I can play solo.
For a game its different because if you go the path of Game as Service you need to spend money on post launch game ddev, so its more risky even than a traditionnal game.
Alexa double cross WB from my shopping list this year
The only thing I want from Warner is a new, good old-fashioned Batman game by Rocksteady. If they then produce a few good, beefy expansions for that game, I will buy them all.
Basically all the major companies:
Dang I sure do hate success.
It’s ironic they made a game with suicide in the name considering they are committing suicide on their stocks/company right now
Getting a lot of money through a good game isn't enough. The execs are looking to get all of the money.
I mean natural selection applies to industries as well, so go off i guess o3o
The only way I could see it coming back, is to make an offline mode and allow us to mod it
Only live service game i would play is Helldievrs 2 not because it's trendy it's because it's a really good game.
Why would Warner Bros executives double down on live services? Are they stupid?
thank you luke
The only live service mmorpg game I could ever want is Pokemon. Just give us Pokemon MMO. With all the regions and pokemon. Just like Genshin but MMO.
if companies want to go bankrupt then who are we to tell them otherwise...
It’s insane release a great single player game than do like 3 dlcs like the spider man games do seems to work fine for them
It's almost as if people don't want to play live service games.
I think they should just pull the plug. They're just gonna lose more money. There's no fixing this piece of garbage no how much you polish it.
I wish WB would give up the game business. If you stay away from things that are profitable and stay close to things that are not profitable, the company cannot survive. The same goes for Scamco, which focuses on boring anime games. Selling unused IPs will make you much more profitable. It would be good to sell Gauntlet to Arrowhead, Spy Hunter, RUSH, Some Midway's games to Raw Thrills, Some Atari Games' games to Atari.
Reality: Line go down. Warner Discovery: More live service!
They (SSKTJL) hid their player count on steam lol
It dropped to below 10 players last night I heard
Considering that their "one-and-done" Hogwarts legacy has 21x more players than their brand new "playing on an ongoing basis" that came out a few weeks ago, I'd say they are just going down with their ship on purpose!
Shit’s 40% off right now and I’m still like “mmmm, no.”
Want a Harry potter game with online compents? do a dueling club online with a sick ass combat, like HWL but even better and sell all kinds of crazy clothes, wands, poses ect
Then when they post massive losses and moan there games didn't meet expectations we can say we told you so
I’m amazed at the incompetence of WB
this is just insanity to me... i refuse to believe these companies are that stupid
I mean look at Activision, Ubisoft, and EA
Damn WB does own the Nemesis System trademark, and they aren't doing shit with it
Live service games are not inherently a problem. Helldivers 2 has definitively proven that. The real problem is lack of innovation and imagination.
Came here to learn about finance. Nice lol 😂
What I actually like about your content is that you have this real way of talking straight to your audience. I really appreciate that.
WB will ruin their company if they continue this terrible trend
its damn crazy that companies dont understand that if they listen to the people they get way more money.
Lol right before F The Justice league released their stock skyrocketed... Who in their right mind invested at that time? They was hoping for a hail mary lol.
Ubisoft is the worse corpo I've ever seen... These idiots are ending the old AC online support, meaning... All my savings will be gone. I bought that s! This should be a crime
I think an ingame cash shop makes the game always worse - cause if it is not relevant it get ignored. So they need to build the game in a way that it is noticeable worse if you don't cash in the ingame shop. This always leads to worse games. I don't want and need FOMO BS in my Singleplayer games, I reject ingame cash shops in my full Price Singleplayer games and if they try to force me in the cash shop because the game is bad if I don't, I avoid the game and all upcoming games they make, as long they use this anti consumer tactics.
The good thing is there are so many games out there and with the AI tools even smaller AA and Indie studios can do bigger projects. There is more than enough Alternatives. So if they do a Hogwarts 2 in UBI style with all the cash grab BS - I don't buy it. I buy games who are respectful and fair. And they done Millions of Dollars Profit, and it is ok they make a good game they get good profit fair enough - but wanting even more is greed and this I can't support. And this leads to games like Skull and Bones - bland BS because they don't want to make a fun to play game, they have a monetization scheme and try to build something playable around this - if they could they would make a cosmetic shop without a game just to sell you 100$ cosmetics, just an online Hub you can stand around and show your overprices cosmetics to others, nothing more you can'T do anything just buy shit to show it to others. If this would work they would do it - I just hope people don't get stupid enough to support such a scam scheme.
They're sitting on a gold mine with the nemesis system, blows my mind that they're not developing 10+ games with that system, especially since they made sure nobody else could use it
Only game now using that system is new Wonder Woman game from same studio.
If they want to keep losing money that's no skin off my back
*burning Elmo meme*
The people shilling the game on steam are WB employees. I've seen the gameplay, there is no way any that visual vomit is enjoyable.
Obviously not learning from Disney...
I think it ploy to set up for a sale of the gaming division.
They did try that and no one was interested lol they need to sell the whole thing off at this point and cut their losses like AT&T and everyone else who has bought them.
Suicide squad (imo) had the potential to become a decent live service game. I was so disappointed with how it turned out.
Well, let’s help them lose even more money then!
Vote with your wallet guys
Rip wb.
Not enough time for several live service for me so I'll pass on them all.
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Say what you want about Disney recently making some awful decisions but WB has been the worst run company in Entertainment for 25 years. They merged with Time, AOL, bought by AT&T, and then sold off and merged with Discovery. Always behind by 7 years they were on Superhero movies and they were on live service games. David Zasslafs bread and butter is bad cheap reality tv shows. Its obvious WB won't learn their lesson when monetizing Shadow of War failed in 2017, it failed with Sushi Squad this year and will fail again and again until Discovery begs another sap of a CEO to buy WB.
'If I didn't participate I would clearly tell you I didn't. If I did I certainly won't tell you cuz that's breakin nda.'
Hmmmm...
Venture capitalism will ruin the economy. These conglomerates are liteally.gambling using whole companies and it melts brain seeing some of these "executive decisions"
The opposite of stonks
The free market will regulate itself!! 😂
I honestly thought anthem and gollum were better than this game, and that says a lot. There is absolutely no soul or heart that went into this game.
You will own nothing and like it.. BTW have you tried our new live service targeting whales?
The gaming industry needs more actual mmos
I don’t get it. They just can’t get out of their own way. Don’t they WANT to make money?
They want to keep gambling hoping for their own Fortnite or GTA 5 which will never happen
They need to go the GTA route. Make a great single player product, with a content filled world...then build a separate Online mode of that game, using those assets that comes out 4-12 months later.
If HogLeg 2 was close to the level of a Witcher 3, Baldur's Gate 3, or Elden Ring...it would make billions of dollars, before the Online mode even came into consideration. That's the best route, if they're determined to go the live service route.
You would think WB investor's are smart enough to know with Sui
I dont wish bad things 9n any one, but I do hope that companies like WB, EA, blizard, bethesda, etc fail and go bankrupt
The central point of this whole thing is just talking about pleasing investors rather than video games itself being the central topic here. That’s what’s all so wrong about this and the reason why they’re failing. Everyone wants to be so money oriented but are so fucking dumb that they lack the basic insight on what they’re investing in to bring in revenue. Let them fail if they’re gonna be this dense.
Hey WB you think I buy That live service bs ? Ofcourse NO, cuz I want to play my own pace and time
I worked on Hogwarts Legacy, and I don’t like how this could go. Gives me the ick.
Time for a cash kids😅😅😅
Suicide squad is alæready 40% off on steam just now :)
May they go bankrupt
Actually make good games again (personally thought Hogwarts legacy was bad) heck give us another middle earth game and improve upon the last or rent out the nemesis system for like 2-3% of a devs profits off that game
Well if they made anything worthwhile, we would want to keep a game. But since they insist on making crap, nobody will want a copy of it.
Seeing these clowns flail is kinda funny.
what make being a bigot morally wrong from your worldview ?