The Fall Of The Airbus A318 Baby Bus
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Only two airlines currently use the A318 on a scheduled basis. The aircraft was never popular, largely due to its poor economics compared with the alternatives. With nine scheduled users in the past decade, the aircraft was able to find a home in Latin America, but Europe was the leading region.
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The probably cutest failure in airplane history.
Aircraft are never "cute" mate...... ever.
@@gooner72 I don't know man, have you SEEN that little guy!?
@@gooner72 lol ratioed
@@gooner72 🤡
The only other plane besides the Concorde to carry the callsign Speedbird 1 and Speedbird 2
I had the chance to fly on an A318 (AF) in 2019! From a flying perspective it really is just like it’s bigger brothers, but when I looked down the aisle during deboarding it really felt short. All in all I’m happy that I got to fly this rare member of the A320 family and just because of its uniqueness I’d say it’s probably my favorite Airbus 😁
Same. Me, my aunt and my cousin, for my cousin's first plane ride, took one from Raleigh-Durham to Seattle-Tacoma on March 31, 2019 to meet a girl I'd been dating online for a while + a trip to Seattle anyways. 💯 was a time to be alive, Delta was a wonderful airline that whole 6 hour experience.
I'm from Romania, so I flew with Tarom's A318 when I was returning from Paris to Bucharest a long time ago.
717 and A318: You and I are not so different
*Cries in bad sales*
A220: *Laughs in profits*
A220 is a money loser. Only Embraer made real profits with the E190.
Add the B737-600 to the club
The 220 is still an unprofitable program. Airbus just announce to change in leader ship for the program to try and get it profitable. Costs are too high with a messy supply chain they inherited from with taking over the program
@@johniii8147 Overall, 320 must be given the upper hand rather than the 220, cause A320's have been the backbone of the industry since a good deal of time.
@@johniii8147 The A220 program already received a great deal of subsidizes from the Canadian government, that's why Airbus bought it to begin with for the huge sum of one monopoly dollar.
My first ever flight on an Airbus was on a Mexicana A318, MMX to LAX. It was also the only time in my life that I treated myself to first class. Those seats were so comfy! I was given a breakfast menu, and I ate from real china and silverware. This was back in 2006.
MMX is in Sweden...
@@GNStudios mmmx
Hi Simple Flying!
You guys should have way more subscribers. This channel is the reason why I'm so familiar with aircraft types and general aviation information.
So true ever since Febuary 2020 when i found them they made me learn so much more in aviation
Thanks for the feedback! - TB
After Airfrance and Tarom retire the a318 unknown and private use will be only operators of the baby bus.
Actually not only on current global aviation news but also do some analysis
I am curious about the A340 and A380. Once the huge R&D costs are factored in, did Airbus make profits with these types? Only 377 A340s were sold and 246 A380s.
With Boeing stopping production of the 747 next year, are there still 4 engine civilian passenger planes being built? The AvroRJ/BAe146 was discontinued like 20 years ago. Ilyushin Il-96?
I flew on the A318 from CDG to HAMBURG
The A318 failure can be explained in just one single word: Embraer
The A319 also took many of its sales. It costed next to the same to buy and operate.
Wrong!! The failure of this aircraft is down to one thing....... the Airbus A320.
Airbus A220 explained the E2 fail sucess and put A318 on the scrapp!
A220-100
Colombia! 🇨🇴🇨🇴
That said, I've flown in the A318 in the past and it looks hilariously small and disproportionate in real life.
What gives the A318 its biggest advantage (shorter runway takeoffs) is also its biggest drawback: the wing it shares with the A320 family. It has to fly that big wing around with few passengers to spread the costs, and so loses out to slightly smaller planes with better economics when runway size isn't an issue. In LATAM, it did well on hot and high routes with low traffic volumes, because that same oversized wing generates a large amount of lift when compared to the size of the plane, even when the ambient air temperature is high and the local air pressure is low. Only to make economic sense, that route also has to be 50-66% of the A318's max range, with just barely a full load of passengers.
Thanks for another great video, Simple Flying Team!!
Yes I flew in 2017 with an Air France A318 from DUS to CDG, the A318 is a very powerful jet and really loud on takeoff and cruise. But it was an very nice experience.
Oh men 😔, I like this unique interesting Airbus aircraft.
Me too and also Eid Mubarak
An addition factor that is not mentioned is engine choice. There was no IAE offering on the 318, which was a strike against commonality for airlines that favoured that engine. The PW6000 was instead plagued with issues.
British Airways had been phasing out all its CFM Airbuses, making its A318 operation all the more niche.
There was no commonality benefit anyway. The old A320s used a completely different version of the CFM56.
Last year I made return home flight from Paris to Bucharest with one of Tarom's A318, the interior is not luxurious, but quite decent. Too bad they retire it, Tarom wants an all boeing fleet, with the Mega-Disaster 737 max as its spearhead.
The coolest member of the A320 family.
I've flown once on the babybus CPH-CDG The morning flight was always the a318
Unfortunately nowadays its the a220 doing this route and the a320 in the afternoon
It’s was suppose to be markets as regional but airports deem it to big
I flew on it once on a domestic flight in Romania several years ago (OTP-CLJ). Not much to say about it
TAROM?
@@shahimagesyt Oh yeah
Haha the base of the wing is almost as long as the fuselage.
I flew so many times on the A318 on Avianca and a love to fly that aircraft because it was good for flights in Colombia.
Same
I sometimes flew Bogotá-Santa Marta with the a318
I like the Airbus A318. Too bad it underperformed.
Yes, i have flown in the a318 by Avianca
I flew once on the A318, from CDG to Vienna. Not much to say about it apart that you can really feel that it is small (short) inside, the rest felt like a normal A320 family aircraft.
Yeah several times. Always thought it looked hideous. Like a baby owl
I did fly the Avianca A318 from Bogota (BOG) to Cali (CLO) but although it was a good aircraft it had a really bad interior compared to the other Avianca short-haul fleet.
Tarom also wants to get rid of the 4 ones in their fleet.... It is much more nimble than a320 and now in Corona times with 30 persons on-board it takes off instantly. Flown many times with it on RO311 and RO312 routes EDDM - LROP.
Ok.I subscribed!
I fly it on Air France Paris to Algiers
the A318 always flies over my house in Florence, together with the B737 it's the only aircraft I can see from my window when a go around happens, so I really like this aircraft. also, Florence airport is totally useless and everybody living here would like to see it shut down, since the Pisa airport is much better and still very close to Florence. instead, the city administration wants to build another runway which would cause major issues to the motorised traffic as well as pollution concerns regarding more airplanes flying low over UNESCO sites in the city center which is full of 13-14th century architecture works of art
Stop use feet to indicate the length of runways!! There's no feet in Brazil! Time for the US to stop acting like kids and pretending meters don't exist!
They’re a channel from the UK and they usually stated distances in both metric and imperial units. I’d also prefer a full switch to metric
You can hear from the stiff accent that that's British, very very British. So they simply cannot use metric system because they are Imperial.
I’m sure a huge portion of viewers are from the US… a switch to all metric would probably result in comments demanding the opposite :p
Hi Simple Flying,
I flew the A318 on RBA-CDG route many times. Quite small, I appreciated the fact that we could embark and disembark fast in this plane.
one of the harder model to find in 1/200 scale also. not cheap for collectors!
can you guys do a video about the most popular airliners in south america?
This is a very beatiful arplane to fly. i had the pelase to ride it from Bogota to Medellin in Colombia. incredible plane
The A318 looks very interesting, it always makes me think it looks photoshopped XD
Totally looks photoshopped!!
@@chrislohphotography ikr!
737-100,-500,-600,MAX-7: First time?
Rip A318 on BA
I have always wished for the opportunity to join the British Airways a318 service. Such a unique flight, but sadly it is no longer.
I've been on one many times ans also just today actually, AMS-CDG on F-GUGO! Much more enjoyable to fly than on a cramped E195-E2 with very small overhead bins, it doesn't feel like a small jet once seated.
F-GUGO was showed in one of the clips in the video! I have spotted and flown on F-GUGR
@@jetgraphy correct but now it has the brand new AF livery
Perfect size for government carriers
I flew many time with AF from CDG to Venice. My favourite aircraft !
I still think thay should have re engined the plane and put winglites to increase its apeal .it did go across the Atlantic via Shannon .thanks .🛫✈️💗
and here I am thinking A319 was small
Even with the latest Leap-1A or PW1124G it still too heavy compare to current A220-100 & E2-195 🛫🤓
I subscribed! I love simple flying!
Its soooo cute!
The A318s real strength against the ERJ and E19x series was it's range. It was way ahead. Once the A220s came out, with 6000km+ range, it didn't really make sense anymore, superficially. Still I think it should have gotten a neo upgrade and some design refinements, as carriers with an all Airbus A31x/A32x fleet could then have as the full range of single-aisle aircraft sizes without having to mix aircraft families, which is a good selling point. Given the commonality, the cost of offering the aircraft would be minimal. With a neo, it would likely have had true trans-atlantic capability.
Didnt Cebu Pacific operate them too?
How many other jet airliners have the short field performance and range (into 60kt headwinds in winter) to fly London City , Shannon n NewYork?
Cebu Pacific never operated the A318, the smallest Airbus they operate is the A319
@@spongebubatz IIRC l flew on one of theirs about 4 yrs ago.
They have some short strips , with fairly high density altitudes .
Marketing deal to try leasing a few for a few years?
Thrown in to a much larger deal of 319s , 20s n 21s at a price they could not refuse?
@@lanse77lithgow do you still know the registration code of the aircraft and did it wear the Cebu Pacific livery? I can find no information on A318 operations and can only assume it was an A319
I boarded n deplaned by airbridge, so didnt note reg.
From what l remember inside n out were standard ceb pac fitout n livery.
I remember the captains address approaching singapore refering to the brand new l think it was 318 , not more standard 319 or 320.
Ceb Pac was growing n considering some destinations with more 'challenging' strips.
Bout 3 or 4 yrs ago
Never flown one, don't want to.
I flew only through the classics: Airbus A300 B4 (Pakistan International), Airbus A310-200 (Emirates), Tupelov 154 M of (Shaheen Air International), MD-80 of Aero Asia
I remember I got to fly in one when I was in my elementary days. Really a cute plane 😂
This aircraft looks so funny idk why
Shrink models usually do not work cause the cost to run is almost same but capacity is restricted. Also shrink models are usually heavier than planes that have been truly designed for the size segment. A318 is not exception: 747SP, A340-200, MD-87, B737-600, L-1011-500 all have been commercial failures compared to their bigger sisters. In NEO and MAX -generations we could also say, that A319NEO and B737-7MAX are turning obsolete also as wise airline would by A220-300 instead of those two.
Flew Air France’s A318 between Paris and Milan once or twice. Being inside the cabin felt just as tiny as it looks from the outside
Let's face it the baby bus was too little for most airlines
But was good for short runs
The A318 is cute in my opinion
I have flown on Air France a318 and British airways a418
Where did you go on the BA zone?
I fleurs with AF from Italy to Paris
I subscribed
BEst A318 flight was the business class only flight BA operated from London City to JFK via Shannon!
I love the A318 and the 757
This plane is so cute ❤️ sad that it failed :(
I Had many chance to Fly the A318 (with Air France, because i am french :)) ! It’s a lovely aircraft !
Damn if I was super rich I would love one of those as a private jet, wide enough to have a comfortable cabin, maybe even try to get it as a combi for some interesting operations...
I flew in the A318 of Mexicana de Aviación, from MEX - CUN. It was 2006.
Has BA stopped flying it’s single A318 from LCY to JFK ?
Only the A318 I believe is cleared to use LCY out of the A320 family.
Air India also has A318s
They don’t.
Best plane ever. Avro is great too
Never got a chance to fly in a A318. If I ever became rich, I had planned on taking the flight from JFK into London City. Oh well.
Really wanted to fly all the types of A320 Family. But because of this pandemic, I never flew on A320 Family
You will have many more chances to fly on A320s and its brothers
StandardBenutzer X I know but because people in my home state is dying fast because of the pandemic, Flight is cancelle
The shape of the bus plus it's size made it look uniquely ridiculous. Even the 319 borders on 'too short for it's shape".
It is a lovely aircraft.
3rd
I think it will forever have an iconic status because of the all Business BA LCY JFK route that it used to operate
i am part of the 21%
An interesting topic for a video, who has the most failed commercial aircraft models, Boeing, or Airbus?
I flown on this 10 Years ago... STR-CDG and CDG-STR
typo #8 Biriths airway 385,00 should be 385,000
A F9 A318 captain told me he didn't like how it handled landing. Due to the shortness of the aircraft on approach the main wing, to some degree, impeded airflow over the horizontal stabilizer.
Absolute nonsense.
More like the Airbus A3Chonkyboi
Saw a TAROM Airbus A318 landing at London Heathrow almost two years ago.
just subbed
the a220 did make that so much better
a220 is my favortit
i fly at alot on swiss
British airways have A318 from London to New York via Dublin and it is only one class but I do not know whether it is still here
Fun fact: its flight code is BA1, the same they used to use for their Concorde flight to NYC 🥹
Why did this thing fail this should be VERY POPULAR THE MOST POPULAR PLANE EVER
A couple of them were scrapped at 2.5 years old.
I haven't found maybe babyairbus
seeral times on lan airlines time ago
EasyJet is missing from your list... Flew on an A318 of theirs a couple times in 2012.
Nope, they didn’t have A318s! Their smallest Airbus was the A319! The only two A318s in the UK were or are BA and Titan
Man I loved that thing, it was a must, covering Bogota to Curacao
Love it. Good Work.
I miss seeing the colourful Avianca A318 coming into BGI late on Saturday afternoons.
i dislike them so much, i'm so glad now that Air france is about to receive their first A220 to replace their A318s
Some chose A220 as a very good replacement for the A318.
It is the ideal replacement for both the A318 and A319
Thank you.
I think you will find that most interesting use for this plane is with the Australian Antarctic Division who regularly send these aircraft to the Australian stations in Antarctica over the summer months and land on ice runways.
I thought they had an A319
The approach to SKPS is a whole ride in a A318, can attest.
Baby bus… 😁😂
Yes I flew BA 1 and 2 quite a lot when I was younger
Fascinating. How long ago was that.