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I don’t think Embracer is at fault for Piranha Bytes being financially unsuccessful and the disaster that was Elex 2. They are not a profitable studio.
This is disappointing that certain studios that created lovely games that had a positive impact on our lives, fall because of being gobbled up by a bigger corp. Hopefully Gothic Remake releases for you because that game gave you the essence of who are today. ❤
Hopefully they find a publisher but not sure which one would be willing to do it. Some potential Mid-Tier options (as the bigger companies are unlikely to be interested) could be: Focus Entertainment, Nacon, 505 Games, Paradox Interactive, Kalypso Media, 11 Bit Studios.
My dad gave me an old PC copy of Gothic 3 but I haven't been able to pick it up and I noticed there's a Gothic one remake coming out on the PS5 under the coming soon table I'm hoping that they're able to release it maybe make some of the money back and stay afloat it reminds me a lot of Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion which is one of my favorite RPGs ever made I've been dying to pick them up definitely going to be one of the first series I'm going to grab if I ever get enough money to get a nice PC
Yeah, Gothic remake is coming out but being that their IP belongs to THQ Nordic / Embracer Group that money will go into Alkimia Interactive, different dev and company, since Piranha Bytes has nothing to do with that.
Embracer Group is as bad as every other publisher out there. I had hope for more Deus Ex when Eidos joined them, but now I have no hope after seeing how they "manage" their studios.
I'll miss the piranhas too, I've been playing their games since 2009 when risen came out and I really like that type and genre of game. Too bad the parent company didn't keep them to improve their games. Risen 1 and 3 were great games as was Elex 1. Most gamers from Europe have been enjoying their games for 20 years, it would be a real shame if the company went bust. I would really like there to be an elex 3 and why not some sequel to gothic and risen, hope they get back together
Thx for the vid LKM. Sucks to see but appreciate your practicality in your approach to this situation as I think it is appropriate. it’s actually sad to see where things have gotten to over the past decade with games but really just this multi billion dollar industry . I don’t want to go off topic here, or on some kind of tangent, but suffice to say the majority of consumers become conditioned to normalizing a lack of standard, in order for these multi billion dollar companies to access their eyeballs and wallets. Majority have become to lost in instant gratification, addictions, and a willingness to excuse or compromise, or settle for anything and everything that appears “new” . Even if it’s a mixture of regurgitation and lacking in quality or unfinished, etc. etc.. So if the majority of consumers do not set the bar for what is required to access their eyeballs and monies… Then the companies will set it. And they will set it according to what benefits them the most with their priorities. And that trickles down into the product being produced, because you inevitably have decisions being made, and priorities being placed for these games NOT bye, the passionate, hands-on, creative developers/creators…. But INSTEAD by the suits, the higher-ups, the investors and shareholders. These two groups have different priorities when it comes to how finances and resources are used for the product. And again, the group that is allowed to have decision-making control on those priorities is the one that the majority consumer allows to have access to their eyeballs and wallets. Typically the more difficult the access, the better the product. Because the requirement for those wallets and eyeballs is a product result that comes From the prioritization of the product creator. When the majority consumer has a little to know requirement for their eyeball and wallet access… Then the decision-making is prioritized at the expense of the product for the sake of maximizing benefit elsewhere. So that’s to say, I think a lot of the struggles that these developers get into we like to blame the suits without holding ourselves accountable as well and checking our own receipts. I have been at fault for this in the past plenty of times myself. Could be wrong, but I think developers would have a better go of it if they were allowed to have more decision-making control, in terms of where resources and finances are spent/invested . Granted a business is a business so I know it can’t be completely simple, especially in the priorities of today’s culture. But if consumers as majority set a higher requirement, in order to gain access to their eyeballs and wallets, then priorities would be placed accordingly to what gains that access. Which I think would help the developers Because of necessity. If the quality and authenticity of a product is needed to gain that consumer access…. Then it puts that developer in a better situation with what they are developing as opposed to those priorities not being there and instead being speed or exploit tactics or relativism them or any other disingenuous crap. Maybe I’m wrong and it’s all a crapshoot either way… But it just feels like studios and developers would be in a better situation if the creative product was prioritized so than the business. It’s already been proven that a good product lease to success, but if those consumers do not maintain that standard… It’s easy for that success to go to that company’s head priority start being put in the wrong places. Out of touch and greedy places. In any case, ended up going on a dang tangent anyway 🤦♂️ and sorry for the auto correct that I’m sure are present n that only confuse because the computer thinks it knows English better than the English-speaking person. 🤨 But appreciate your input LKM as always 👍
I've always been hopeful for more Gothic that captured the feel of the originals. I think this hope is finally dashed. But we will always have the originals and the memories that go along with them. I'm feeling extra pleased about purchasing the Switch physical releases of Gothic 1 and 2. Would be great if Gothic 3 got the same treatment.
Yeah, it's sad everything culminated with Gothic 3 and pretty much ended with it. Although if you want og Gothic experience you should get Archolos, it's like og Piranha made a new Gothic game back then. Also download Polish voice over, you get used to it after a while but you also have version without voice acting.
Very sad, Gothic 1 was my first game and for me it's the best game forever. Hope everything will be ok with Piranha, and we will see a lot of the games we can get lost in
Man CDPR should just grab IP and make sequel i think alot of ppl would be excite to work on new Gothic becouse gothic there is like second religion among gamers :-) or Anchorolos team taking over that be cool too
I will say perversely that as a fan of the Gothic series I am glad that THQ Nordic owns the rights to the Gothic brand and Piranha is leaving with Elex. The first Risen was probably the last game that I liked. Piranha is developing very slowly, which is painfully obvious from the state of their newer games. The Elex series confirmed that I no longer care about what Piranha will do in the future. THQ is now going to do a remake which makes me happy. Now just keep your fingers crossed that they succeed in refreshing the brand. I think we need to cool down our high expectations and hope that they will release a good action crpg. If someone else refreshed the Prototype series I would be very happy.
THATS A CRIME!!!! How can we let shitty companies that give total garbage games be wealthy and greedy, and companies such these to die!!!! ITS UNFAIR ITS A CRIME!!
gothic trilogy+ risen1 even today are good games for me....didnt play other risen when saw gameplay.... elex was interesting for a few hours, but world is just ugly
Not an easy thing to do sadly, organizing that can be incredibly challenging and also again, their IPs belong to Embracer or well THQ. Especially Gothic, not sure what's their deal with Elex though
As much as i love gothic 1 & 2, the PB that made them has long been gone. G3 was a hot mess and what followed was a mediocrity at best. this had to happen. I truly wish the remake will revive the series, only time will tell.
It is not the same Pyranha Bytes that made Gothic. Pyranha Bytes was finished when Gothic 3 came out. It had nothing to do with the 1&2. Gothic 3, even without a single bug, is nowhere near as good as the first two games. It was a departure from everything that we loved about g1&2. I am sorry to hear they are in such a bad situation regardless,but those are not the people who made the best game ever. Those are just some random dudes who made Elex and Risen.
Narh i loved gothic 3 and risen 1 gothic 3 was that Game there made me a Gothic fan I played 1-2 after gothic 3 and risen 1 was the closest to Gothic beside it was a new title. But I will agree elex is not good I don't like the si-fi Apocalypse style
@@LastKnownMeal Can't wait for the remake now, especially after seeing that they took all that feedback seriously. Making the valley looking exactly like in the original game was a big plus for me and gave me hope. I just hope they don't screw up the atmosphere, and this is my biggest concern. It should be dark, and I don't mind a certain dose of comedic moments, but it must be as in G1. Diego seemed to be overly cartoonish. Literally reminded me of old Disney cartoons, so I hope they cut that crap out. This is not Baldurs Gate, there should only be a small dose of sarcasm. If they don't screw up the characters, that game is already a win in my eyes. I would seriously be happy if they made an exact same copy with modern graphics and more quests to make the game longer. Like you could name more characters and make more side quests and it would be fucking awesome. One more thing I am worried is voice acting.
developers of gothic lol developers of risen and elex at the best real developers of gothic 1-2 shut down themselvs decades ago sadly this modern piranha bytes never made a game that looked like gothic 1-2 atl all look at the archolos chronicles of miratana there was more online than in any of their games like elex and risen because this is what people have wanted since the release of gothic 1-2
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Embracer Group became more like the Embrace of Death.
I don’t think Embracer is at fault for Piranha Bytes being financially unsuccessful and the disaster that was Elex 2. They are not a profitable studio.
At least hopefully we'll still get the Gothic 1 & 2 switch upgrades on the PC.
This is disappointing that certain studios that created lovely games that had a positive impact on our lives, fall because of being gobbled up by a bigger corp. Hopefully Gothic Remake releases for you because that game gave you the essence of who are today. ❤
Elex 2 def had rough support, and never did get all the issues ironed out. But I hope they end up OK by the end of this
Hopefully they find a publisher but not sure which one would be willing to do it.
Some potential Mid-Tier options (as the bigger companies are unlikely to be interested) could be:
Focus Entertainment, Nacon, 505 Games, Paradox Interactive, Kalypso Media, 11 Bit Studios.
My dad gave me an old PC copy of Gothic 3 but I haven't been able to pick it up and I noticed there's a Gothic one remake coming out on the PS5 under the coming soon table I'm hoping that they're able to release it maybe make some of the money back and stay afloat it reminds me a lot of Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion which is one of my favorite RPGs ever made I've been dying to pick them up definitely going to be one of the first series I'm going to grab if I ever get enough money to get a nice PC
Yeah, Gothic remake is coming out but being that their IP belongs to THQ Nordic / Embracer Group that money will go into Alkimia Interactive, different dev and company, since Piranha Bytes has nothing to do with that.
Embracer Group is as bad as every other publisher out there. I had hope for more Deus Ex when Eidos joined them, but now I have no hope after seeing how they "manage" their studios.
I'll miss the piranhas too, I've been playing their games since 2009 when risen came out and I really like that type and genre of game. Too bad the parent company didn't keep them to improve their games. Risen 1 and 3 were great games as was Elex 1.
Most gamers from Europe have been enjoying their games for 20 years, it would be a real shame if the company went bust. I would really like there to be an elex 3 and why not some sequel to gothic and risen, hope they get back together
Thx for the vid LKM. Sucks to see but appreciate your practicality in your approach to this situation as I think it is appropriate.
it’s actually sad to see where things have gotten to over the past decade with games but really just this multi billion dollar industry . I don’t want to go off topic here, or on some kind of tangent, but suffice to say the majority of consumers become conditioned to normalizing a lack of standard, in order for these multi billion dollar companies to access their eyeballs and wallets. Majority have become to lost in instant gratification, addictions, and a willingness to excuse or compromise, or settle for anything and everything that appears “new” . Even if it’s a mixture of regurgitation and lacking in quality or unfinished, etc. etc..
So if the majority of consumers do not set the bar for what is required to access their eyeballs and monies… Then the companies will set it. And they will set it according to what benefits them the most with their priorities.
And that trickles down into the product being produced, because you inevitably have decisions being made, and priorities being placed for these games NOT bye, the passionate, hands-on, creative developers/creators…. But INSTEAD by the suits, the higher-ups, the investors and shareholders. These two groups have different priorities when it comes to how finances and resources are used for the product.
And again, the group that is allowed to have decision-making control on those priorities is the one that the majority consumer allows to have access to their eyeballs and wallets.
Typically the more difficult the access, the better the product. Because the requirement for those wallets and eyeballs is a product result that comes From the prioritization of the product creator.
When the majority consumer has a little to know requirement for their eyeball and wallet access… Then the decision-making is prioritized at the expense of the product for the sake of maximizing benefit elsewhere.
So that’s to say, I think a lot of the struggles that these developers get into we like to blame the suits without holding ourselves accountable as well and checking our own receipts. I have been at fault for this in the past plenty of times myself.
Could be wrong, but I think developers would have a better go of it if they were allowed to have more decision-making control, in terms of where resources and finances are spent/invested . Granted a business is a business so I know it can’t be completely simple, especially in the priorities of today’s culture. But if consumers as majority set a higher requirement, in order to gain access to their eyeballs and wallets, then priorities would be placed accordingly to what gains that access. Which I think would help the developers Because of necessity. If the quality and authenticity of a product is needed to gain that consumer access…. Then it puts that developer in a better situation with what they are developing as opposed to those priorities not being there and instead being speed or exploit tactics or relativism them or any other disingenuous crap.
Maybe I’m wrong and it’s all a crapshoot either way… But it just feels like studios and developers would be in a better situation if the creative product was prioritized so than the business. It’s already been proven that a good product lease to success, but if those consumers do not maintain that standard… It’s easy for that success to go to that company’s head priority start being put in the wrong places. Out of touch and greedy places.
In any case, ended up going on a dang tangent anyway 🤦♂️ and sorry for the auto correct that I’m sure are present n that only confuse because the computer thinks it knows English better than the English-speaking person. 🤨
But appreciate your input LKM as always 👍
Man, that's sad news...
Very sad :(
I've always been hopeful for more Gothic that captured the feel of the originals. I think this hope is finally dashed.
But we will always have the originals and the memories that go along with them.
I'm feeling extra pleased about purchasing the Switch physical releases of Gothic 1 and 2. Would be great if Gothic 3 got the same treatment.
Yeah, it's sad everything culminated with Gothic 3 and pretty much ended with it. Although if you want og Gothic experience you should get Archolos, it's like og Piranha made a new Gothic game back then. Also download Polish voice over, you get used to it after a while but you also have version without voice acting.
@@LastKnownMeal Thank you for the Archolos reminder! I've been meaning to try it out.
Very sad, Gothic 1 was my first game and for me it's the best game forever. Hope everything will be ok with Piranha, and we will see a lot of the games we can get lost in
Man CDPR should just grab IP and make sequel i think alot of ppl would be excite to work on new Gothic becouse gothic there is like second religion among gamers :-) or Anchorolos team taking over that be cool too
hope they find a publisher!!!
I will say perversely that as a fan of the Gothic series I am glad that THQ Nordic owns the rights to the Gothic brand and Piranha is leaving with Elex. The first Risen was probably the last game that I liked. Piranha is developing very slowly, which is painfully obvious from the state of their newer games. The Elex series confirmed that I no longer care about what Piranha will do in the future. THQ is now going to do a remake which makes me happy. Now just keep your fingers crossed that they succeed in refreshing the brand. I think we need to cool down our high expectations and hope that they will release a good action crpg. If someone else refreshed the Prototype series I would be very happy.
THATS A CRIME!!!!
How can we let shitty companies that give total garbage games be wealthy and greedy, and companies such these to die!!!!
ITS UNFAIR ITS A CRIME!!
they should've stuck with gothic2
isen1 mechanics, not trying to do something new like user friendly mechanics. a stupid loss(sadness)
gothic trilogy+ risen1 even today are good games for me....didnt play other risen when saw gameplay....
elex was interesting for a few hours, but world is just ugly
Can´t they just form a new studio after ?
Not an easy thing to do sadly, organizing that can be incredibly challenging and also again, their IPs belong to Embracer or well THQ. Especially Gothic, not sure what's their deal with Elex though
Alkimia is now the studio that can bring Gothic back.
why dont they just combine with thq barcelona and make a perfect remake?
Because Embracer Group and logic don't go hand in hand sadly
Bruh I just started playing elex wtf
I enjoyed it - after turning off the stamina in combat. Fights are still demanding then, but the stamina system was just feeling bad.
Elex one is good I like it a lot
Same brother, Gothic trilogy is just the best
As much as i love gothic 1 & 2, the PB that made them has long been gone. G3 was a hot mess and what followed was a mediocrity at best. this had to happen. I truly wish the remake will revive the series, only time will tell.
Elex 2 was really bad so I’m not surprised.
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It is not the same Pyranha Bytes that made Gothic. Pyranha Bytes was finished when Gothic 3 came out. It had nothing to do with the 1&2. Gothic 3, even without a single bug, is nowhere near as good as the first two games. It was a departure from everything that we loved about g1&2. I am sorry to hear they are in such a bad situation regardless,but those are not the people who made the best game ever. Those are just some random dudes who made Elex and Risen.
Narh i loved gothic 3 and risen 1 gothic 3 was that Game there made me a Gothic fan I played 1-2 after gothic 3 and risen 1 was the closest to Gothic beside it was a new title. But I will agree elex is not good I don't like the si-fi Apocalypse style
It wasn't as good as G1 and G2 good but I enjoyed G3. Right now it's up to Alkimia to try and make it with remake, but we shall see how that goes.
@@LastKnownMeal Can't wait for the remake now, especially after seeing that they took all that feedback seriously. Making the valley looking exactly like in the original game was a big plus for me and gave me hope. I just hope they don't screw up the atmosphere, and this is my biggest concern. It should be dark, and I don't mind a certain dose of comedic moments, but it must be as in G1. Diego seemed to be overly cartoonish. Literally reminded me of old Disney cartoons, so I hope they cut that crap out. This is not Baldurs Gate, there should only be a small dose of sarcasm. If they don't screw up the characters, that game is already a win in my eyes. I would seriously be happy if they made an exact same copy with modern graphics and more quests to make the game longer. Like you could name more characters and make more side quests and it would be fucking awesome. One more thing I am worried is voice acting.
Risen was great wdym
and im actually happy that another studio is doing the gothic remake
because I dont want gothic to look like elex or risen at all
Greedfall is my favorite game of theirs.
Greedfall is done by Spiders studio, different dev
developers of gothic lol
developers of risen and elex at the best
real developers of gothic 1-2 shut down themselvs decades ago sadly
this modern piranha bytes never made a game that looked like gothic 1-2 atl all
look at the archolos chronicles of miratana
there was more online than in any of their games like elex and risen
because this is what people have wanted since the release of gothic 1-2