READ ME! Yes, the Desktop has a faster CPU. Yes, the Desktop has slightly faster RAM. I know that. This is an approach to compare 2 very different systems. The i9 9900K is basically identical with the i7 10700K, so it is in fact 10th gen Desktop i7 vs 10th gen Laptop i7. Please excuse the different OSDs. I didn't have time to record all the Laptop Games again with a different OSD and I need the slim OSD for other videos that are coming up. My time is limited ;) If you enjoyed the video nevertheless, please leave a thumbs up. Thank you!
From what I saw, it's only Control that has a VRAM limit issue. Everything else has performance disparity that you'd expect from lower TDP and shader processor count.
Ah it would have been really nice if you could show us the current power draw of both cards, so that we know how big the difference between desktop and laptop version is. Nice video nevertheless!
Hm tough decision. It's not that much faster. But has 8gb and offers dlss... Maybe if you can sell the 1650 s and only pay like 100 extra for the 3050? 🤷♂️
suggestion: rtx 3050ti 80w vs the desktop rtx 3050 would also be a good video, as it would be even closer results, and they have the same number of cuda cores
I have the laptop that you’re testing on. I have 32gb of ram (overkill) at 2600mhz, and performance has been great with all of the games that I play. Desktop is next! Thanks for the vid!
as far as i can see with the laptop one, from fh5, if you decrease the texture resolution only, it will perform almost identical, (mabye 5-10% less) than the desktop version
Even though desktop has a slight ram difference and a better cpu, the results are pretty close. Which shows that buying a gaming laptop isn't that bad after all :D
Nice video. With release of RTX 3050 6 gb mobile, i wonder how much performance difference that version with 3050 desktop version, especially with 6 gb version. Could you make it its video?
So VRAM makes a small difference of the time where as the wattage of the gpu is what’s making up the gaps we see. Glad to see my 3050ti will be just fine being another 1070.
No, lack of VRAM is what actually was causing a big difference in frames. Look at Control and Cyberpunk. Both games are using almost 6GB with the desktop version and the laptop version is bottlenecking at its full memory with big losses in FPS.
It could be a better video if you mentioned the difference in Cuda count. Anyway, what a great comparison. Ps. I just found your account and finally I can see the exact laptop used for the numbers
Laptop gaming is better now because the the prices aren't insane. Also aptop hardware is very competitive with lower power draw and of course, portability.
Yeah, I'd wager the performance difference is mainly due to the difference in TDP and higher shader processors (2560 vs 2048) more than anything. There's only one game that seems to be a VRAM issue (Control), but everything else is as expected with the 4 GB of VRAM not being an issue.
I feel very insecure with my purchase I had a desktop with the GTX 970 and it got fried after my PSU blew up. Now I have a laptop with a 3050. All the reviews are conflicting. Some say it is a downgrade, others say it is an upgrade, but I fear they're using the desktop to say an upgrade. At other times it seems like its the same. Did I downgrade or upgrade by going from the 970 to 3050 laptop?
@@FzPura It should run faster. BUT you are obvisouly combining two different sized Ram Sticks, that will cause the ram to only work at Single Channel Speed. You're giving away around 10-15% Performance. But it could also be caused by a frame limiter. Is it plugged in? Is vsync turned off? Is your Laptop running in performance or turbo mode (if it has one)?
@@Hubwood I'm running at turbo but it might be the game setting i set is too high.. mind telling me what settings u have or atleast if its full max or adjusted?
@@Hubwood I'm interested in 3050 laptops as they fall in my budget, the coming summers as every year temps would reach 40°c and in that case my 1060 laptop reaches 100+ on cpu and high 80s on gpu, would it be a similar case?
Yes, the Desktop has a faster CPU. Yes, the Desktop has slightly faster RAM. I know that. This is an approach to compare 2 very different systems. The i9 9900K is basically identical with the i7 10700K, so it is in fact 10th gen Desktop i7 vs 10th gen Laptop i7.
The rtx 3050 was recorded via a capture card. That's identical to use a monitor. There is no fps difference. That's only the case if the laptop has a mux switch. Most laptops don't have one.
READ ME!
Yes, the Desktop has a faster CPU. Yes, the Desktop has slightly faster RAM. I know that.
This is an approach to compare 2 very different systems.
The i9 9900K is basically identical with the i7 10700K, so it is in fact 10th gen Desktop i7 vs 10th gen Laptop i7.
Please excuse the different OSDs. I didn't have time to record all the Laptop Games again with a different OSD and I need the slim OSD for other videos that are coming up.
My time is limited ;)
If you enjoyed the video nevertheless, please leave a thumbs up. Thank you!
thanks :)))
How did the laptop one end up with lower vram clock speed tho? I have a 3050 laptop but it's got 7000mhz memory clock speed just like the desktop one
The laptop 3050 seems just fine, but it definitely has VRAM limitation in some games
From what I saw, it's only Control that has a VRAM limit issue. Everything else has performance disparity that you'd expect from lower TDP and shader processor count.
4GB VRAM 🤦♂
Ah it would have been really nice if you could show us the current power draw of both cards, so that we know how big the difference between desktop and laptop version is. Nice video nevertheless!
The laptop is boosting between 75-85W. The desktop gpu is around 130W.
agree, i want see too
@@Hubwood the desktop stock uses around 100w....only overclocked ones cross 130
@@Chimera_0990tfr depends on the model really. It's "up to" 130w.
With the one I've tested it was 110-120w in stock mode.
Is it worth me upgrading my new 1650 Super for RTX 3050 desktop? I have a 5600x CPU.
Hm tough decision. It's not that much faster. But has 8gb and offers dlss... Maybe if you can sell the 1650 s and only pay like 100 extra for the 3050? 🤷♂️
@@Hubwood maybe, but I only play at 1050p 16:10 lol, so I don't know. Maybe I'll get a better monitor, then get 3060ti
I'd suggest also looking at the RX6600 non XT as it comes pretty close or even lower in price than the 3050, but check with your local market prices.
@@SRC267 better wait for 4000 series
for 1080p gaming 1650 super is enough for 1 more year
next year buy latest gpu
That 4GB of vram is starting to feel kinda cramped in 2022...
suggestion: rtx 3050ti 80w vs the desktop rtx 3050 would also be a good video, as it would be even closer results, and they have the same number of cuda cores
the rtx 3050ti is equal to the desktop rtx 3050
3050 Laptop edition is definitely worthy.
Desktop is barely ahead of it.
Depends on the game. Some games benefit more from the bandwidth and faster clock + cpu. Some don't.
@@Hubwood agreed. But the portability+Current gpu prices mean a 3050 laptop is a much better value overall. Good work on the video
I have the laptop that you’re testing on. I have 32gb of ram (overkill) at 2600mhz, and performance has been great with all of the games that I play. Desktop is next! Thanks for the vid!
thanks waiting for this a long time
Laptops will always be behind their desktop counterparts but still quite impressive for smaller form factor & less power
The only place they would be behind are in how much space the occupy, but sur, as u wish
Would like to see 3050 laptop dlss vs 3050 desktop. Include 3050ti if possible. Great video.
as far as i can see with the laptop one, from fh5, if you decrease the texture resolution only, it will perform almost identical, (mabye 5-10% less) than the desktop version
That 4 GB VRAM is really hurting the Laptop GPU. Nvidia should've, by now, introduced a higher VRAM version of these cards.
funciona genial sin embargo con el dlss
Even though desktop has a slight ram difference and a better cpu, the results are pretty close. Which shows that buying a gaming laptop isn't that bad after all :D
The performance characteristics of FH4 is strange to say the least.
With your posts, I can figure out the type of gaming PC my money can get me....thank you very much for your all your hard work and dedication 🙏
Nice video. With release of RTX 3050 6 gb mobile, i wonder how much performance difference that version with 3050 desktop version, especially with 6 gb version. Could you make it its video?
what settings did you use for battlefield 5?
Is it really that close? Probably 3050ti 95w laptop would go neck and neck with 3050 desktop,except high vram situations.
Is a comparison with the 40w 3050ti coming too?
Maybe... Maybe ;)
So VRAM makes a small difference of the time where as the wattage of the gpu is what’s making up the gaps we see. Glad to see my 3050ti will be just fine being another 1070.
No, lack of VRAM is what actually was causing a big difference in frames. Look at Control and Cyberpunk. Both games are using almost 6GB with the desktop version and the laptop version is bottlenecking at its full memory with big losses in FPS.
It could be a better video if you mentioned the difference in Cuda count. Anyway, what a great comparison.
Ps. I just found your account and finally I can see the exact laptop used for the numbers
Laptop gaming is better now because the the prices aren't insane.
Also aptop hardware is very competitive with lower power draw and of course, portability.
laptop have more price than a desktop gaming
go buy a desktop
are u using DLSS on shadow of the tomb raider ?
Nope
i was wondering if this Dell G15 5510 has a mux switch or not?
The only one with the mux switch as far as I know is the one with the 3060
Yeah, I'd wager the performance difference is mainly due to the difference in TDP and higher shader processors (2560 vs 2048) more than anything.
There's only one game that seems to be a VRAM issue (Control), but everything else is as expected with the 4 GB of VRAM not being an issue.
Only if you further raise the settings...
Pretty sure to get same fps as desktop. Just turn down by one settings and always turn on dlss. Identical or better performance.
I feel very insecure with my purchase
I had a desktop with the GTX 970 and it got fried after my PSU blew up. Now I have a laptop with a 3050. All the reviews are conflicting. Some say it is a downgrade, others say it is an upgrade, but I fear they're using the desktop to say an upgrade. At other times it seems like its the same. Did I downgrade or upgrade by going from the 970 to 3050 laptop?
Upgrade
What setting do you useto get witcher at 80 fps?
For me its always 50-60 fps on rtx 3050
Laptop? Desktop? Details.
@@Hubwood laptop
Specs
i5 11300H
RTX 3050
12 GB Ram
@@FzPura
It should run faster. BUT you are obvisouly combining two different sized Ram Sticks, that will cause the ram to only work at Single Channel Speed. You're giving away around 10-15% Performance.
But it could also be caused by a frame limiter.
Is it plugged in?
Is vsync turned off?
Is your Laptop running in performance or turbo mode (if it has one)?
@@Hubwood I'm running at turbo but it might be the game setting i set is too high.. mind telling me what settings u have or atleast if its full max or adjusted?
@@FzPura ultra settings preset (also high in posteffects) and hair works turned completely off.
Shown at the beginning of the segment in the video :)
@Hubwood - will you make a test on Dying Light 2 with GTX 1650 Ti please?
Can u test destiny 2 will this laptop i have the rtx 3050ti version and ryzen edition
My desktop draws less than 80w but crashes twice a day...I'll take the trade.
Thank's btw plz 3050ti version laptop,... Can same 3050 desktop... If i buy laptop 3050ti or 3050 goos choice???
3050ti
Try rtx 3050 laptop (95w)
Vs
Rtx 3050 desktop (130w)
I only wish temps for the laptop were included :(
Which conclusion would you draw from it?
@@Hubwood I'm interested in 3050 laptops as they fall in my budget, the coming summers as every year temps would reach 40°c and in that case my 1060 laptop reaches 100+ on cpu and high 80s on gpu, would it be a similar case?
@@tazzyreign2629 because this totally depends on the laptop model I'm not showing temperatures.
Some laptops have cool 3050s. Some have hotter ones.
@@Hubwood yes the one's getting hotter are the 90w TDP, like in the Dell G15
But a BIOS update is available for better cooling profile.
well it is not a big difference when the 4 gb of vram is enough
I’d get the desktop version, but it’s already getting scalped to hell. Bought a laptop instead.
I9 vs i7? Bruh
I9 9900k is almost 1:1 identical with the i7 10700k.
So its 10th gen i7 vs 10th gen i7.
Sorry, what did you say again? 😉
that cyberpunk diff lol.
Most likely the vram limitation kickin in
@@Hubwood yeah, i own dell 5515 and that vram cap is killing me in few games, or its just maybe cyberpunk is not optimized well
Can you do a warzone test
desktop is better but laptop did very good
Bro fkn used an i9 in his desktop
Yes, the Desktop has a faster CPU. Yes, the Desktop has slightly faster RAM. I know that.
This is an approach to compare 2 very different systems.
The i9 9900K is basically identical with the i7 10700K, so it is in fact 10th gen Desktop i7 vs 10th gen Laptop i7.
connect a monitor and expect fps different 10% less
The rtx 3050 was recorded via a capture card. That's identical to use a monitor. There is no fps difference. That's only the case if the laptop has a mux switch. Most laptops don't have one.
@@Hubwood oh i thought they were using the laptop and recording it at the same time. Well thanks for the information.✌️
So RTX 3050 Desktop = RTX 3050Ti Laptop.
Hm no. It's faster than the 3050ti laptop I would say. The 3050 and 3050ti difference isn't that big.
RTX 3050 laptop 4GB memory sucks
Nope. Just play low medium settings.
teste contaminado
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