The fact that Ethan and Olivia cannot understand what’s going on in the scene is exactly how drama and lies starts. The reason why he brought up Ryan is because she wants to talk so much during the scene and he’s trying to resonate it with oh you and Ryan must talk all the time meaning she’s thinking people talking during moments like this are normal because that’s what she experiences. Oh my God it’s like dude really!!
@opers_dopers but thats the point justins making, some people talk, some enjoy silence and find more depth through just sensing, both is ok but if you only know one side it might be weird to understand the other
I'm into drama enough to be a fan of this show but that whole thing was ridiculous they would watch 10 second chunks at a time analyzing every phrase and every action. Does anyone think about what they say that much? no they dont. so why are they analyzing it like every word was articulately chosen? They are talking 2 inches away from each other people say shit that sounds weird. IMO she has a right to sue for a lack of an intimacy coordinator and unscripted intimacy can be unexpected. But with that being said they are acting as characters in love like wtf is the problem? Hes acting hes not actually doing these things to her bc he wants to do it to HER. if that makes sense. Also I'd have assumed, and I think he assumed, that when ur playing these characters together for a while with sex scenes and kissing and touching that during a slow dance scene with faces 2 inches away that the character would do what he was doing. I might just be lacking empathy here but ur acting stfu and play the character. if ur uncomfy dont be an actor or dont pickup a role in a film like this. reading that back sounds very aggressive I do think she has a right to sue but I don't think she should have is all im saying
@@missriss_xoxo it’s because Ethan can’t shut up and just focus on what’s being presented. And he’s already made his mind up on Justin being a weirdo so he was just trying to convince everyone of the creepiness the whole time instead of looking at it subjectively
I was also really feeling his absence during the liger/tigon talk. ik trusty ole Swerdlove would've set the record straight on "it's just what happens when a boy lion loves a girl tiger 🥰" and "that's how humans evolved too!" lmao
How is this pod missing the main points? Her omitting parts of their text messages? Even the sexy message, she's the one that said she wants a sexy outfit. He just replied with the same. And as for the scene, they were acting. She kept wanting to talk and made it awkward by not taking the director's direction. And please don't say this hasn't affected anyone. Justin lost his agency, jobs and even had an award rescinded. Her complaint has already ruined his life.
@@StealingSunsets that’s literally part of the scene which they discuss in the beginning of the clip. She says “they want it. Don’t let them have it. Almost kiss but don’t” The scene is them falling in love but not there yet and the character is recoiling. Y’all are not watching this correctly smh it’s a movie scene
SOOO BIAS ! its a hard watch blake gets the benefit of the doubt in every situation but if Justin put his hand on blakes back you have to measure how close his hand is to her but in a slow dance scene ??
Blake totally mischaracterized what happened in that slow dancing scene . I’m not really sure how you guys have the take that you take. Of course filming a romantic scene what someone who’s not your partner is going to be uncomfortable, and she has admitted in the past that all of the romantic scenes, she films are uncomfortable, but that doesn’t mean that Justin is acting inappropriate towards her in anyway. part of the role is that they have to act like they’re in love!!! I feel like this isn’t rocket science and it’s clear that the way she described what happened and the reality is vastly different
I also don't understand how they interpreted the "You and Ryan must talk all the time" line like they did. They were discussing what looks more romantic - talking - or just staring in each others eyes, small physical touch, almost kissing... and actually she started all these discussions out of character. Justin then bring up that maybe for Ryan and her talking is their love language and how they connect - but that it's different for him and his wife (girlfriend?).
the justin guy definitely seems like an absolute choch, but to blake this was clearly about boosting her career credentials and using whatever leverage she can
Baldoni saying “It smells good 😃” in response to her comment is VERY DIFFERENT than saying “It smells SO good 😏” unprompted, as Lively’s lawsuit alleges. I think in this instance Lively is manipulating what Baldoni said to make it seem much worse, which leads me to be skeptical of the entire suit.
Because they're supposed to be visually acting, but in the film, music plays over that moment. So they're supposed to look the part of two people falling for each other, and not sound the part.
Imagine having an attractive actor/director acting sexy, acting attracted, acting affectionate, but instead of the barrier of "this is the character" that's not there. It's Justin acting like the character to Blake. These are real conversations and real quips that are related to Blake and Justin's personal identity. The spray tan, the mention of their SOs.. the fact that they were talking like they're friends while acting like characters in love is so confusing and weird
@@themathdragon9806 It's because they were filming a montage that was going to be covered over with music in the film, so what they said didn't matter. They were filming it for the look of two people falling in love. That's why that's happening like that.
@@themathdragon9806 Even if I accept your premise, a coordinated NYT take down on top of a federal lawsuit does not seem like proportional response. The scene is in a crowded bar, in front of cameras and crew. There is no coercion. At minimum she consented to filming a scene as intimate as slow dancing. The reality is they are professional actors. She’s also not in character. Intimate scenes are notoriously uncomfortable. No one likes it but it’s what you sign up for. Sure, maybe in a perfect world every touch should have been coordinated and approved. He’s not doing this to get off or pressure her or harass her. He’s getting a shot for his movie.
Ethan… sorry but I think you decided Justin was guilty from the jump and now everything is shaded with that in mind. Even by the rest of the crew a lot of times… I’m not gonna lie. Within just the first MINUTE of that muted dance video I was like HOW COULD ANY DIRECTOR WORK WITH HER? She tried to correct every single thing he said and did and change it…. She’s not the director…. What in the world? I feel like Ryan might have gotten jealous too…. I wonder if she was home complaining about everything and they decided to take over. He might be cringy af but I don’t think he’s the one in the wrong here. And mentioning Ryan? I think he was trying to put it out there that he’s NOT trying to be inappropriate bc he knows she’s with Ryan… and then he mentions his wife too…I feel like he could feel her disconnecting and so he was like “yup, know you’re married and I’m married… we’re just doing a movie.” Blake was 10000% not staying in character. She just LIED…. She was trying to be the director wtf 😂
The Blake and Justin take was so wildy biased! I'm always the first person to defend women but she's got a history of having major issues in almost every major project she's ever done. Also her history of racism... It's not that she's not a perfect victim, she has a history of nasty behaviour and retaliating when things don't go her way and he proved that if you bothered to actually listen to his side of things.
Honestly if you are a person who is all about defending woman, and making their right to speak out against sexual harassers, we should really put A LOT more pressure on people who lie about something like that happening. When someone lies about something that serious it doesnt just affect the person accused, it affects every single person who has ever been sexually assaulted/raped/etc. It is actively horrible for the victims of real crimes, and needs to be called out HARD.
It is highly biased. They even defended TS, but it was clear in the text messages she's signed off every page. She's not innocent. TS knows exactly what blake is doing, she been in the industry longer than the age of her fans. Been friend with Blake for over a decade. She won't be called her Dragon for nothing. These H3 people are too young and gullible!
@ Absoultely. Especially in a time like now where misogyny is at an all time high, having an A-list woman lie about a situation like this to try to destroy a man's career will only make those men hate women and not believe us even more than they already do. It's unfortuantely destroying all womens' credibility and makes me extremely angry.
@ Well she's also known for weaponising feminism to make herself a victim when she doesn't get her way. Neither care about feminism until they can use it to gain sympathy and avoid accountability. Birds of a feather.
i feel like ethan is projecting a little. almost as if the reason for hating on Justin is bc he's too good looking to be standing up for women & he MUST have an ulterior motive. we should be standing together & not dividing. the case here is totally biased, opposed to the opinion of the media after the release of receipts. Ethan holds a lot of influence in his team
Not Ethan analyzing Justin's body language during the raw footage, but then when AB asks a question about Blake's body language, he goes "SHE'S ACTING!" The bias is so obvious 😂
Well you are talking about two different peoples claims and one who followed what was scripted and one who didn’t. This is just B roll, talking, dancing and looking lovingly at the other. So small take saying random things again is normal, when it goes off script is when you start adding in extra touching/kissing that’s not scripted while also telling her she smells good. What’s weird about his body language were his actual actions that weren’t discussed prior to shooting the scene
HE DID NOT SAY YOU SMELL GOOD HE SAID IT SMELLS GOOD (about the spray tan) Are you guys watching the same video???? I mean come on!!!!!! Also if you’ve read the book which ironically even Blake didn’t bother to read, the onesies were supposed to match and all characters in that scene were wearing those like family tradition or something so asking her to remove the damn jacket is also in sync with the bloody book!!!!!! Stop being blind in your hatred for one person.
@ if he loses without blake being able to prove she is right, then my take would remain the same. Many people lose legal cases on the basis of technicalities. Although, if he loses with sufficient evidence and witnesses to prove Blake’s claims then sure he is guilty. So far, she looks like a liar not him.
Also I believe to say " you smell good" its not a bad thing to say, at least in my country its a normal compliment. It can be said in a creepy way but it all depends on the facial expression and situation. I don't think it was creepy in that case. On the other hand the dude gives a bit of weird vibes, the proposal narcissistic video was very strange. Blake seems to be an insufferable diva thou. Maybe both did wrong things. Seems to me it was more a battle for power between them not a sexual harassment situation. But she may have felt for real disgusted if she had to do sex scenes while not getting along at all with him. Thats is simply how acting works and its not his fault but she may have for real felt that way.
THISSSSS!!! Every other outlet I watch can get it why cant my favorite show. It’s disappointing and honestly makes me have to rethink their takes from now.
@@breannabilllings898SAME i usually agree with them on everything but their take on this situation has been driving me INSANE! normally i immediately believe and side with a woman, which i did when she first came out with her claims. Until BLATANT EVIDENCE came out from Justin literally showing she misconstrued/exaggerated almost every single claim she made. I understand wanting to side with a woman about these types of claims because many women are disregarded, but this is SO different than the typical case
Blake is giving “I can cross boundaries I set but you can’t.” Which isn’t how boundaries work. Either you follow your own boundaries or you’re just using “boundaries” in a manipulative way.
Yes exactly! I hate how they're excusing her behavior because she's a woman and actress. She's the one with more power in this situation, she clearly has no problem yapping her mind off, she's touching him all over, so if this is a problem for her he'd have the same right to see as a problem
I dislike how Olivia just gives up/ gives in to Ethans opinion on Baldoni situation. She tries to argue and then gives up after two words. Could this be because of their power dynamic. He’s her boss so she feels like there’s not point to change his mind and must comply…..( she how things can be misconstrued. Just saying 🤷🏻♀️) peace and love
She literally thinks she's God's gift to earth. BD saying "you guys are so cute." Is not a diss dude. She took it so offensively like CUTE!? We are not just cute we are couple goals, you'd be better off to understand this now. She lied. She manipulated. If ethan didn't go back to check footage this is how these rumors get started. She's awful. Period.
I love H3, but my god, Ethan pauses and asks way too many questions, and then assumes right away without watching the clip and fully comprehending what's happening. If you just watch the clip, Ethan, you'll have all of your answers. Olivia, every single time you backed down, it was Ethan's take that was wrong and infuriating. Don't back down, you're getting a lot of men and women upset with you because his take on all of this was god-awful. You're the one who put it together, you're the one who did all of the research. Ethan doesn't have all the facts and it shows. Justin may be a cringe person, but he makes his wife happy. In that proposal video, his WIFE/FIANCE LOVED the whole thing. That wasn't for anyone else to judge but her and it made her happy, so what is the problem? So, making immediate judgments and holding bias because of that makes all of your arguments invalid. We need Dan back to talk some common sense into this. My god, this was very embarrassing and infuriating for everyone on this episode.
The grasping at straws to make Balsagna look bad is kinda crazy. At the end of day they both sound insufferable but I wouldn’t call him a sexual harasser (based on the evidence).
Agreed. Based on the evidence. Not sure why they're reaching here. His statements lined up exactly with the scene. Hers did not. Not a good look for her. And I don't even have a dog in this fight, nor do I care, but when there's evidence, it needs to be considered.
@ lol, what does that mean, WHO CARES. Everyone cares about everything because everything matters. Whatever you do and put out in the world at any point, matters. So you look at the world today and see how it's empty and dead....this is due to society making bad choices. In the past, people thought differently and the world looked a lot different. what you put in, you get. Nothing is inconsequential, that is a delusion. Shut up.
I disagree with Love, if Blake is proven to be lying, it’s not just her being an asshole. It’s a person with a lot of power bending the truth and using their power to fulfil their agenda (likely getting the rights for the second movie so it can be her little project), and disregarding actual victims of sexual harassment in the process. She makes all women who come out against their abusers be second guessed. I’m not on either side, but I think the accusations brought to both of them are severe, and should be taken seriously.
@ he says it right at the end of the episode, yeah. Basically that the allegations against Justin are way worse than the ones against Blake, that hers are just her being annoying. Lol.
The baldoni bit is crazy biased. The whole time she is insisting that they talk despite the script and vision is them dancing. She is talking out of character and insisting they talk. You can see from the beginning she doesn’t like him pushing back about being on their mark and then insisting about talking and then she is defensive about her and Ryan being cute. I also think it’s possible after she was joking about his nose and he joked back about Jenny Slate’s, Blake went back and twisted the situation to Jenny which could have resulted/contributed to her flipping sides
OLIVIA.. read the body language girl!! Are ya’ll watching a different video?? Blake clearly misrepresented what her lawsuit states in a MAJOR way. Just because he is cringe doesn’t mean everything Blake said is true.. like c’mon guys.
I’ve never seen a group of people so unable to read the room and interpret what’s going on. It really shows you how peoples perceptions get so skewed because they have no common sense for certain situations. The fact that they’re judging the way someone’s acting when they’re literally acting in a movie is beyond me.
I have a different interpretation of the comment Baldoni made about Blake and Ryan. If you watch the interaction from the beginning it makes more sense. Baldoni intended for the scene to be a silent dance with them staring into each other's eyes. Blake wanted to redirect it to be a scene of them laughing and talking. She kept saying I think we should talk it's more romantic. So that's when he said I bet you and Ryan talk all the time, but Emily and I can stare into each other's eyes long periods of time. (but Blake interrupted him so he couldn't finish.) that's why it seemed like it came from no where. He was just trying to make a comparison between the two couples and validate both types of romance. At the end he looks a bit annoyed and says we probably have like 17 minutes of footage. I'm guessing this was supposed to be a quick short scene that was part of a slow motion montage and if it wasn't for Blake taking over it wouldn't have taken so long to film.
Also they missed the part a the start of the scene where he kisses her neck, before the camera goes back to them you hear him saying "I'm going to kiss you, I'll remove the hat" and then she says something about the hat in response. So to me he did check in for her consent there and gave her a heads up of him going to kiss her. We don't see the footage though just hear them talking, so we don't know if he implied he was going to kiss her lips or pointed along her neck while saying it. I do agree with them that it's harder for her to be in a position to say no when it's a director but I don't think they paid enough attention to that snippet of audio
@@lauraj6694 It doesn't sound like she have a problem saying no to the director. She was trying to direct the scene from the first take. I think he probably mentioned about stare into each other's eye to get Blake to take the hint that is what he is trying to go for in this scene.
Are we watching the same video???? How does saying " I might be getting my spray tan on you" mean "get away/ back off ( 2:34:40 )"?? I feel like y'all are reaching and are showing a very clear Blake bias. Y'all are reading wayyyy too much into the small talk they were making. I get that you want to support and believe women when they speak up about SA, however you must admit Justin's team has been showing nothing but receipts. Love you guys but your takes with this whole situation make me feel like i'm being gaslit to be on Team Lively lol.
Yes this! It's so frustrating too hear them bring up points just to make Justin seem like the bad guy when the point of the video is to analyze the whole situation, not try to further this narrative that they're so insistent on believing. These are two ACTORS filming a scene of two people FALLING IN LOVE, that's why he's ACTING that way. All of the "what do we think about his hand placement?" "He kissed her neck." "He just wants to make out with her." Was so frustrating to listen to
It is infuriating. They are not doing a good job with reporting this situation. Honestly i would prefer they just stop talking about it. Spill Sesh does a wonderful job reporting this story.
I've never sought out the guy. Never typed the word destiny into a browser. Never even played the game. But I know so much on this guy some that scars me to this day.
you should know Lonerbox was a close associate with Destiny until this. also, alot of clips Ethan has gotten against Hasan over the last months have been from his community
@@aweshumandy so what if the points against Hasan was from destiny or a destiny subreddit? As long as ethan does his due diligence and if he finds there is merit to what they say then it should still be valid. I f'ing hate snarkers who always say this stupid arguement
In regard to her complaint in her lawsuit about this scene with “no Audio”. She lied about what was said, Not knowing his mic was actually ON She has been called out. on this particular complaint Another Complaint was complaining about him coming into her trailer when she was pumping breast milk - Then He has raised a text of an invitation from her inviting him in to her trailer to work on lines whilst she is breast pumping Another complaint was one him showing her pornography pictures - the picture was an elegant picture of a homebirth of his friend, no nudity in it.. re child birth scene His lawyer is uploading all receipts / every text email onto a website atm. And she has DEMANDED a GAG order.. which has been denied 🙅 Too many times to be called out.. A jury is not going to like her lies. (Oh and another complaint was fat shaming - he had to ask her weight before picking her up because of his bad back. Yet she laughed and shamed him about needing Plastic Surgery asap on his big Nose)
BL: We should scoot back and get on our marks. The light is behind you. JB: It actually looks better like this. BL: Oh, okay. EK: DID YOU SEE THAT? SHE RECOILED IN DISGUST!! GUILTY! 🙃🙃🙃
I could not believe you guys were still batting for Blake after that clip 😂 He didn’t seem to be inappropriate AT ALL and was tryjng to be in character with body language since no words were necessary. Both of them were “out of character” in terms of talking
And Blake was insisting on being out of character. Before he even gave any action for her to be “uncomfortable” with like they are trying to say in the pod. I don’t understand their take
I think it was a mistake starting with the cringy videos from his past. Those videos made me cringe too, and typically you might see those things from someone who is pretending to be a good person or “putting on a show”. I think that is so engrained in their minds, Ethan’s especially, that they can’t see past it. They think he’s a weird/fake person because of the “introduction” to him
@@ling2555 Oh, they were DEFINITELY cringe, but it doesn’t automatically make him a sexual molester/harasser. It’s very obvious Blake was trying to completely twist the context of what was said or done for the lawsuit. I love the crew, but it feels like we were watching two different videos 😭
@@Ebichuchu 100% agree! It’s frustrating because I usually completely agree with their takes, they tend to have good ones. But this situation is not one of those.. I fear it’s because once Ethan has his mind made up on something he has a VERY hard time seeing or considering anything to the contrary. The rest of the crew I think is just having a hard time going “against” a woman which I understand, but I think there’s enough evidence now to show she isn’t exactly being truthful with a lot of things.
I’m sorry, but Blake doesnt have any hesitation giving direction to the director. I don’t think for a second that she felt any kind of pressure to be touched/kissed without her consent. I think the video clearly demonstrates that she wasn’t traumatized in any way from that shot. Like, from the guys pov, her saying “I might get makeup on you” amounts to her being uncomfortable? For sure, that’s a great way to tell someone you’re uncomfortable… I think that once she started the lawsuit, she wracked her memory for any instances in which she didn’t give exact, down to the body movement, consent.
I don’t understand Blake’s relectuance to do romantic things in this movie and pushing the narrative that he is sexually harassing her. It’s a fucking romance movie. You have to play the part. If you don’t want to do that then don’t play a role in a romance movie.
Yeah AB saying stuff like F Joe Biden is exactly why we have Trump now. This is hasan’s brain dead takes. These people are not on our side it’s so disgusting.
How can Blake be mad that he improvised when he wanted to dance silently and SHE suggested they talk and improvise? Also, for Love talking about Justin choosing to be the male lead, the author of the book actually suggested he play the character after his studio bought the rights and there are text messages to prove that.
why is it insane.... why? they probably had it on the doc, just missed it. EVERYONE knows about it already, the whole subreddit was full of it, why is it so necessary that they talk about it?
@@spookeymo Because of the very important video ethan has dedicated so much time against Hasan to combat Antisemitism. Focusing on minute details and language debating whether Hasan is pushing a certain message to his audience, outright or subliminally. And then you have Elon musk in full display on the biggest stage sieg heiling and it doesn’t deserve even a mention?
@@that1fluffydude210 This. I'm a mega long time fan but Ethan has been brain broken for the last 2 months straight, sadly. It's frustrating to hear Hasan mentioned literally any and every chance to elude to him in every single episode and acts like Hasan doesn't bring a hint of comedic relief to his content EXACTLY like Ethan does. Even Dan and AB have been pushing back lately and uncomfortably it seems like at this point but that could be me being parasocial.
I'm so confused on how much the entire panel is misreading the body language and dialogue of the footage. Even if we wanted to show grace to Blake and say "okay she didn't outright lie" it's very clear that she misrepresented all of her claims to suggest that he was inappropriate when all his evidence has proven that he wasn't. Even if the lines were blurred on both parties, the things she claimed in the lawsuit were just really overexaggerated if not flat out false. She misread a lot of awkward situations because there was blurred boundaries (meetings in the trailer, comments made about wardrobe, unrehearsed dialogue) but to claim he was sexually harassing her was blasphemy and clearly an attempt to shift the power dynamic in order to obtain the rights to the sequel film. She was not an actress that was easy to work with and stayed in her lane, she overstepped and attempted MULTIPLE times to take over the director role. Very weird how much the facts are being spun to favor the bias of Blake being the victim. I understand giving the benefit of the doubt because we live in a standard "believe all women" society, but facts are facts and quite frankly, the facts are not representing the notion that she was a victim of sexual harassment. It shows that she came into the job with the intention to control many aspects of the film and when she did not get her way, she became spiteful enough to conjure up a narrative that would turn the public against him. Really disappointed that the crew isn't seeing thru this bullshit
Thank you!! It felt like the more the crew discussed the video the more convoluted it became for them. They completely ignored that he never said that he “I’m not even attracted to you” as she claimed he responded to her during that scene. The whole time they are pointing out Justin is “more into her” because he’s actually acting while Blake is focused on attempting to control the edit aka not acting.
Spot on, they also needed more context from both lawsuits before watching the video. It's actually frustrating to watch and I usually don't care about "drama" lol
Also, they're referencing the intimacy coordinator being on set, but Blake said in an interview that there was no intimacy coordinator during filming, and she had to do it herself. I'm pretty sure that was brought up in her lawsuit, too. But last ep they were saying, "She just didn't want to meet with the intimacy coordinator before filming!" Though she claimed there wasn't one on set.
What was in that video was not sexual harassment. They’re filming a romantic scene you’re allowed to do some improvisation within reason. They’re going to stop make movies if people keep dropping law suits for ridiculous reasons.
Exactly! What he didn't wasn't crazy. There are other allegations though about him going into her trailer etc when she wasn't ready but since she lied about this i don't know how much she's stretching the truth.
After this attempt to cover the Blake and Justin situation I think it is clear you guys are not able to retain all of the facts and just are spewing misinformation. I suggest you all watch Spill Sesh's videos were she goes into great detail about the situation. WITH PEACE AND LOVE plz stop bringing up this topic.
Its so hard even watching you guys discuss the blake vs baldoni case because you have such a bias and preconceived judgment to begin with!! Ethan is constantly and actively LOOKING for things wrong. The hand “placement” her “oh okay” response and ect. First of all THEY ARE ACTING! “He is being too romantic” UMM THATS HIS JOB TO PORTRAY A MAN WHO ROMANTICALLY IS INTERESTED IN HER. Maybe she shouldnt take on a role that makes her uncomfortable? Thank you to Lena for chiming in with atleast a little defense… meanwhile Ethan, olivia and love stay biased.
And the whole “getting my beard on you thing” what just after she said she didnt want to get spray tan on him…. He most definitely could of had beard makeup on aswell , making that comment completely relevant and appropriate.
Ethan comes off as a petty, envious, insecure lil man and its kinda pathetic. He decided early on he doesnt like Justin and he wont let it go, and as much as I like Olivia she's such a yes-man its unwatchable.
Lively was not supposed to talk AT ALL during that scene. Baldoni even had a producer in his ear (mic) telling him to remind her *not to talk* becase she wasn't following direction *or the script.* Baldoni is the director, and Baldoni worked out this scene with intimacy coordinator BEFOREHAND. You're supposed to go through all intimate scenes *beforehand* so that scenes go smoothly and everyone knows what they are supposed to do. You don't just figure these things out on a whim. It's like saying "we have a choreographed dance but we'll figure it out on set..." No... Lively went against his direction, against the scene, and proceeded to tell him consistently that they should talk because she thinks it shows them falling in love more than not talking. She isn't the director! She didn't work the scene out with him and the intimacy coordinator beforehand life she should have. She has no clue what the scene should be or portray. Baldoni was trying to gently shut her up. She did what she wanted. She couldn't stand to be silent because she can't be present. Beyond that, she can't follow direction. Which is ridiculous, as an actor's main job is following direction. She should be able to do that at the drop of a hat (or clapper), and she clearly can't...at least without hijacking the whole damn film.
@@NS-sx4dq That’s to the other extreme don’t you think? What this person was trying to say, is that she should’ve taken the direction given to her by her boss. Like with any job, you listen to your boss, within reason, like… regarding work. If they make you uncomfortable, that’s what HR is for. But simply asking the ACTRESS who is getting paid to LISTEN to direction by the DIRECTOR, isn’t too much to ask. She just wanted unlimited control, and knew she had the power to play Justin.
@@NS-sx4dq The scene was supposed to be no sound, said by Lively herself. If she read the book and had met with the intimacy coordinator to work out these intimate scenes beforehand, they could've figured out how to portray these two characters *falling in love* in a way both actors are comfortable with. Also, Blake was saying here that she thinks showing them talking shows them falling in love better. She wanted to rewrite his scene because she thought she knew better. Everyone on set knew this scene did not have talking.
Let's not pretend XQC is suddenly a smart and kind individual just because he knows the holocaust happened. He shouldn't get that much credit for the bare minimum 😂
In the dancing scene I feel both are acting and trying to direct at the same time. She wants to talk. He doesn’t because it’s a slow motion scene. She insists. When he mention she and Ryan talk a lot I think it’s to then say that he and his wife can just look at each other. To justify why he wants them to not talk. But Blake just carried on and doesn’t let him finish his point. When the say cut you can clearly see him go out of character.
Whether or not the scene made Blake uncomfortable when filming is not really the point at this time. She misrepresented what happened in the dancing scene to make him sound creepy. She intentionally left out the context of the conversation that they were having together, while laughing. They’re playing romantic interests. The scene is meant to look intimate. I hope to see more evidence specifically pertaining to communication with the intimacy coordinator. I just have a hard time blindly siding with Blake because she was not entirely honest about one of her main examples that he was being creepy. We’ll see what happens I guess.
I feel like you guys are agreeing so much with Blake like give Baldoni a chance. I feel like the crew has to agree with Ethan or they are done. It’s okay if y’all don’t agree with him.
Please don’t use Emily D. Baker as a neutral voice in saga between Blake/Ryan v. Justin. Ryan Reynolds follows Emily on Instagram and vice versa. Many social media users are sponsored by Ryan (via Mint Mobile) and hence they give a biased coverage supporting Ryan and Blake. There was one TH-camr Andy and he actually worked with Ryan in the past. Ryan initially followed Andy on instagram but Andy has been pretty honest on his coverage about Blake and petty Ryan Reynolds unfollowed Andy. Sounds like we’re back in middle school except Ryan is almost 50 years old 😂
The Baldini/Lively section was almost unbearable to watch with Ethan commentating. He has decided Baldoni is in the wrong and wants to be right, so he’s bending over backwards to make sure that’s the case. I don’t know if it’s because Dan was missing, but Ethan was skipping over major things and mischaracterizing so much. Two examples: - the vid of them slow dancing, right before Baldoni does the neck/almost kiss thing, they say at the beginning “okay I’m going to come in like I’m going to kiss you” and she’s like “yeah okay” but Ethab kept saying “that was weird he did that without them talking, she clearly wasn’t okay with it” - second, and this is a minor point, but on the list of 17 demands, they say not to hire someone with close personal connections, just actors, and Ethan kept saying that was sort of weird he hired his actor friend- but it’s totally fine the Lively hired her sister?? That seems like a close personal connection to me? Blake was playing the “yes for me but not for thee” came throughout the production and that’s so obvious, but no one wants to disagree with Ethan so he’s just stomping through making no sense. We need Dan back. Olivia and the rest of the crew did a good job putting this together, but I almost skipped this section because Ethan was infuriating. Also- I don’t care much about this case or have even really been following it, but it’s just so obvious that Ethan feels he HAS to be right so therefore Baldoni has lost in his mind and he can see nothing else.
What’s the point of going through these PowerPoints if you already have a set opinion & are close minded? Not calling baldoni a saint here but they are constantly scrutinizing him when if presented accurately, Blake is the one in the wrong here. Lying & manipulative.
@@Vegangg I think we can’t make a final opinion on the case as a whole, but the situations that HAVE been shown are clearly disproving a lot of the claims Blake has made. It’s proving she is lying, misconstruing, and exaggerating a lot of situations. They seem unable to at least acknowledge that the evidence SO FAR doesn’t look great for her
OMGGG them seeing Justin’s point of view then Ethan going “UNLESS…” and everyone flipping back to agree with him/blake was making me nuts! It’s not “weird” or “embarrassing” that Blake brought THE MOST FAMOUS PERSON IN THE WORLD into her apartment at the end of a meeting, and her super mega powerful/famous husband in to literally excerpt pressure on to this dude to rewrite a scene. SHE DIDN’T READ THE BOOK. She already messed up all the fashion. I wouldn’t want her writing it either! And it sounds like ANYTHING he didn’t agree with she would threaten to leave. This isn’t weird and embarrassing it’s downright intimidation, coercion, bullying, manipulation. So whenever I see stuff like that, it makes me not want to believe the other stuff she’s saying. Just the way she’s speaking to him while he’s trying to direct. The way that we’ve seen her speak to so many people. She’s awful. She’s also a hypocrite in the highest order. She is allowed to do whatever she wants and the second that he doesn’t do something that she wants or says something, that, in my opinion, (I don’t care if I get hate for this), he probably thought he was totally allowed to say because of her previous words and texts. If she’s saying she looks sexy he probably thought that was OK to say. I mean we literally hear that she said “I’ve never even seen porn.” She brought up the porn in the first place, then said that…. HOW IS IT OKAY FOR HER AND NOT FOR HIM to compliment her on that and give a brief sentence about how he’s struggled with it? LIKE WHAT?!?I feel like y’all are breaking down every single hand movement he ever does to make it seem wrong. And Not doing the same with her. You can tell Olivia has a big opinion on this, but when Ethan doesn’t agree, she’s like “nope nope you’re right.” It’s making me nuts. Thank goodness AB and Lena are there and watched all the stuff before so they can argue it. Gahhhhhhh
He literally has it out for Justin for some reason. Idk why they’re going so hard for Blake even going so far to say well maybe she was trying to say this. It’s so annoying
@@laurenmelaniexo SO ANNOYING. And omg Love at the end? “Well…. Even if she did do something wrong it’s nothing compared to him…. She was just annoying but he did this and this and this.” JUST ANNOYING? She came in and threatened him over and over and over and used her power and powerful family and friends to try to steal his movie/direct/take over everything and if he didn’t do exactly what she wanted she’d threaten to leave and mess the whole movie up. It’s INSANE. Who wants to be around a person where you have to walk on egg shells and don’t know when they’re gonna be offended about something you said even though THEY have said it before. Someone who constantly corrects you, tries to tell you how to do your job… take over everything… also, she says in that list he can’t have any friends in HIS movie? But her sister was in it? How could none of them catch that?!? Dude… I get it was a personal scene but wtf… actors and directors have friends who are actors. How can she POSSIBLY give that stipulation? How could he watch that power point and say “well…. I still think Justin did more wrong than her.” Whaaaat? Did we watch the same thing? . She sounds insufferable to be around. Oh and Ethan going “oh that doesn’t matter if it was before the filming.” What?!? It literally disproved her lie 🤦🏼♀️ ugh sorry that was so long.
Ngl, Blake triangulating her husband & LITERAL Taylor Swift in to pressure him into using her version of the scene (and then doubling down after he allowed it with the khaleesi BS) feels way more manipulative/coercive/abusive of power than anything else we’ve seen so far from JB. It’s straight up bullying and says a LOT about their dynamic.
Olivia pls consider doing a power point on Ryan Reynolds?! I believe if ppl saw who this man truly is, how he makes his moves, they would see this entire situation from a different view.
How have we had multiple Baldoni/Lively podcasts but the thing about Blake refusing an intimacy coordinator is completely new to Olivia and everyone else? What??
Because they did talk about it and that’s not what actually happened. She did not “refuse” one. She said something along the lines of I’m fine with meeting her when we start filming. That is not refusing one… she is saying she’ll wait until they start filming to meet with her which is understandable. Tf?
@@howdypartnai remember in one of the other videos someone said she refused the coordinator. The conversation came up because she said afterwards they didn't have one, and Justin countered that she didn't want one or wouldn't make time to meet with one. Either way, I'm understanding was that there was no IC on set. To me, that's a shortingcoming in the executives' part, including the director, because there should be an IC if there are intimate scenes, period. It shouldn't be a question left to the actors if they want one or not ?
Ethan and the crew are stretching on the “weird” comments and touches from JB to Blake. They were slow dancing and very obviously being intimate. Blake was not shy at all to speak up about anything she wanted in that movie so why would she have an issue with telling him she felt uncomfortable if she was changing scenes, wardrobe, dialogue etc already. At least to me it seems pretty obvious she got annoyed when she wasn’t getting her way in everything and decided to ice out Baldoni and start to take over the movie which she did because everyone who watched it watches Blakes Edit! Ethan’s open mind turned out to be extremely biased to Blakes side. Recommend anyone who likes to keep up with this Justin/Blake drama to watch the Do We Know Them podcast. Loved their takes and coverage on it.
Y’all kept saying the footage was “confusing”… it’s not confusing! You all are just conflicted from making a snap judgement too quickly and now there is evidence refuting her false claims! My god the way you all ride for Blake so hard is gross. It’s disappointing.
Yeah.. it's getting annoying. Love Olivia, but she didn't explain what Blake claimed in her lawsuit before they watched the video. They even asked, "What did she claim happened?" and she went into what happened in the video, not what was said in the suit. Same with last ep when they mentioned the intimacy coordinator - they said "she just didn't want to meet with them before filming!" But the point was that Blake said there was NO intimacy coordinator while filming. I honestly think he's a probably a real weird dude, and that she is also terrible to work with.
Honestly! Also they're missing to me one of the biggest point, is that how a man that's literally owning the movie and depends on the movie to do good would literally sex harassed his main and powerful actress in front of cameras recording? I always stand for victims, but the more this lawsuit goes the more you see how much she twisted stuff. Also excuse me, is the man not allowed to act anymore like he's falling in love with her? That's literally Ryle in the book being obsessed with Lilly... 🤷🏼♀️
I think Olivia missed a lot of the details and evidence that contradicts Blake’s complaint. And on that raw footage, that scene is not just about slow dancing. It’s the scene where they “fall in love”. Olivia is not explaining things properly imo. Still entertaining but a lot was left out that is making Blake just look like a straight up liar or mentally disturbed because her reality is very different than what the actual evidence is telling lol
I have to be honest, Olivia has seriously let me down with the goss talks. Every time she presents, I can think of multiple important bits of info from the gossip that she leaves out (consciously or not). I get it that no one is perfect, but when it’s literally her job to relay information about this stuff and then she leaves out important info that causes Ethan and the crew to have misinformed opinions, it bothers me. She’s way too susceptible to TikTok brain lol and lacks critical thinking of any kind oops sorry not sorry
@@sim1win128u said everything perfectly and it’s always been like this i’ve commented on previous episodes about olivia leaving out so much information and jumping all over the timeline. its hard for people who don’t already know the lore of the topic to follow along. but again tiktok brain they just assume people already know.
And may I call out Ethan on his bs. He literally watched a video where the guy proposed to his gf and was admittedly self absorbed which is not a crime. A bit unlikeable ? Surely. but those videos where he acts corny cannot define how he acts in other situations. Just like Ethan probably wouldn’t find it logical to define his character based on that chestnut clip . Both can be true : he can be self absorbed and trying to appear this self proclaimed feminist can come off unlikeable to some ( Myself included) so as Blake twisting the truth to gain sympathy that she lost due to her own actions . The scene that was shot was supposed to be in slow motion and he clearly stated that to her while she was insisting on talking . Talking during a slow motion scene would be ludicrous. So her completely changing that scene that was scripted as literally “silent scene : dancing romantically “ into a long process that Justin probably didn’t even intend to use in post as it was already scripted in a whole other way, only prolonged that shooting she found so uncomfortable. And also I found watching that scene uncomfortable too, letting a stranger touch you romantically seems so creepy to me , I guess that’s why I’m not an actor but SHE IS and how both actors can portray love and intimacy without touching or kissing and showing affection , that was clearly in the script . He did insist on hiring an intimacy coordinator to choreograph those intimate scenes , and she was the one who was like “yeah im good “ , and suddenly when her career went to shit because of her actions , she’s suddenly critical of his every word and movement he made while filming
I think if Olivia presented Justin’s lawsuit BEFORE showing the raw footage, I think it would have given way more context for Justin, for example her constant need to take control. I also think that you guys brushed off the manipulated texts from Blake’s team. Thats something that goes to really hurting Blake’s credibility.
And the other hosts doing their research as well. I mean I get we want to support victims, but things need to be presented accurately and thoroughly when we are talking about allegations that can ruin people's lives but alas 🤷♀️
A lot of people are siding with Blake because they're going into Justin's lawsuit assuming everything she's saying is 100% true when there's unfortunately not much physical evidence to back it up. To understand the context they need to go into it with a clear mind. It's her burden to prove SH happened not the other way around. That's like you complaining a package wasn't delivered and they ask for proof.
I feel like Olivia will never be able to cover this case in its entirety. There are too many things legally that need to be broken down within the lawsuits that play apart in why Blake is so wrong and why she looks so bad. Plus Ethan and Hila being so dismissive towards Justin and his feelings about the movie was so hard to watch the last powerpoints. Their mind is made up about him and it’s not going to change, enough with the powerpoints on this.
exactly 😭it comes off weird and not serious when they come in with a bias at hand its okay if you dont like the guy, but at least report on the stuff when justin said or did something weird, they go off on bro blake acts weird and racist and controlling and suddenly is a 10 second part of the segment they brush thru i just dont get why they are trying so hard to defend her i love women and i do believe hollywood is super unfair to them in sets, and men do get away with horrible stuff but justin is just a corn ball, he isnt a monster like they are trying so hard to convey ofc if more info comes out, i wont see him this way, but its just hard to take her seriously when she is being like this her manipulation, lies, weird behavior goes unnoticed but they over analyze everything he does im even a huge ryan reynolds fan and i feel both are wrong here lol
"His hands are pretty low." So what? They're in love in the movie.. they're wanting each other.. like they're ACTORS so wtf are we debating here. The "have you ever seen a movie" comment is all you need to hear from this segmant.
The most incriminating thing about that scene is seeing how Blake's interpretation of his behavior does not match the proof and her inability to follow directions and shut the f up. They weren't even supposed to improvise, but she insisted on it. You can't negate the fact that she felt uncomfortable you also can't negate that she also made him feel uncomfortable by refusing to follow his directions. If all feelings are valid then all feelings are valid.
Mb she shouldn’t act in romantic movies that require acting romantic and intimate scenes with her partner, if she feels uncomfortable doing so? Imagine every other actress filing a suit against their male partners for literally acting. She didn’t lie in her lawsuit yet twisted the truth tremendously and we got a proof of that on numerous occasions . If there wasn’t anything to validate Justin’s narrative , we would blindly believe her but we do have evidence of her twisting the truth and it’s just harmful to take her side for the sake of not accepting that the guy who is a bit corny and self absorbed (she is also those two things, need i remind you)is telling the truth and backing it up with evidence, whereas her statements ( for the time being) are just her perceptions of the truth. I think that this lawsuit was initially meant to take away attention from the media painting her as a mean girl , and it clearly works as we don’t talk about it anymore but her statements although can be proven true twist the truth in a major way
Justin is definitely a weirdo and cringe af but its soo clear Blake is more in the wrong here, the way she maliciously misrepresents so many things in the lawsuit to make situations seem worse then they actually were. Not sure why they nit picked all of Justin's arguments while giving Blake so much grace when it's literally been proven that she lied about so much shit. She should be persecuted for that khalessi text alone Imao
The second he yells “Cut,” Justin is completely nonchalant toward Blake in behavior and mannerisms. Any IRL “discomfort” Blake felt was due to Justin not immediately accepting the notes she had on the scene (…bc she was hired to act and act ONLY). The “I’m Khaleesi” threat alone - THIS woman (and her husband) wouldn’t confront Justin directly if she felt even slightly sexually harassed?! If you are not healed from your own trauma due to harassment, I’ve been there, i send you the deepest love, and I ask that you don’t project YOUR valid and genuine emotions onto Blake. I find nothing more ruinous to the cause of actual victims than a bully pretending to be one… all bc her Hollywood clout was ruined. P.S. It’s obvious now Blake has been using Taylor all these years. I’d be furious at Blake - my so-called BFF - calling me her dragon aka “her minion” behind my back.
@ bc that’s equally insulting to someone who, by all EVIDENCE so far, has done nothing wrong. A win for Justin is setting a cultural precedent against future false accusations, especially from obscenely powerful ppl like Lively… who is punching down bc she can. Justin is the indisputable underdog here - and I like seeing underdogs who have been wronged win
Because theyre not just accusing each other of being awful, they're making very specific allegations. Baldonis accusing blake of lying and taking over his project (and he has ample reciepts) blake is alledging that baldoni was a creep who harassed her (and she has zero receipts) @oby888
I’m pretty disappointed with this take. The moment when you started to change your minds and side more with Blake, it was based on the assumption that Justin kissed her neck when it was not previously discussed. However, we don’t have ANY information this was not discussed previously. It’s illogical and unfair to draw any final conclusions based on assumed evidence. Also, I’m very confused how people keep interpreting Blake’s request to talk during the scene as her trying to push Justin away because she felt uncomfortable and wanted to have a discussion about the scene or shift to talking because she felt harassed and needed space. Perhaps she felt uncomfortable, but there’s no concrete evidence of that. Within the context of the clip, she’s talking about how she and Ryan talk all the time, which is how they connect as romantic partners. Justin replies that he and his wife often just stare into each other’s eyes, which is how they connect romantically. Within the context of the conversation, it’s more likely that they’re speaking about how two romantic partners connect with each other. Blake initiates the conversation and keeps talking. Justin appears to want to remain quiet and just capture physical moments of closeness. It sounds like they’re speaking about how their characters should be interacting in the moment and differing on how to execute that. Blake comes across as a very direct person who isn’t afraid of confrontation. The weirdest part of this entire story is that she claims she was too scared to speak out and that Justin was able to harass her in front of a bunch of people on set. Why didn’t she claim he harassed her when they were alone together at her penthouse? Wouldn’t that have been a more likely location to put in appropriate moves on someone rather than in front of multiple witnesses, which is the case for the majority of her claims? She’s already been caught lying. How do we believe anything she says at this point unless we have incontrovertible evidence, which she has yet to furnish? If she has that, we’d all love to see it.
@ Exactly. It would be odd to be standing there with your mouth open in mid-sentence, which is exactly how the moment would have looked in few-second slo-mo clip.
Why do you guys have such an extreme bias in favour of Blake? From day 1 her compliant to the NYT was shady because it lacked crucial context. Now all the receipts are out and it's undeniable that she's trying to ruin his reputation. She called herself Khaleesi dude🤦♀Not to mention, her previous interviews and drama with ex-cast members proves her character as someone who is awful to work with and egotistical. Do you know Blake personally? Because that is literal only reason that you would be so insanely on her side when she has been proven wrong with receipts.
Ethan's cognitive dissonance with Baldoni goes hard. He decided early on that Justin was guilty and now he can't reconcile the evidence to his preconceptions. I'm waiting for all the evidence to come out but I haven't loved how this topic's been handled here. I don't think Olivia's been doing a good job presenting the info either but I understand a lot has come out in quick succession and it's been hard to keep up with. Tbh I think you should just let this topic die because every time you cover it you come out looking sillier.
@@madispy5087 She missed a lot of important topics and is a total yes-man to Ethan, everytime she says something in Justin's favor and Ethan tries to counter it, she's like yeah you're right, which is disappointing tbh.
@madispy5087 I said this in another comment + i like Olivia, but she didn't explain what Blake claimed in her lawsuit before they watched the video. They even asked, "What did she claim happened?" and she went into what happened in the video, not what was said in the suit. Same with last ep when they mentioned the intimacy coordinator - they said "she just didn't want to meet with them before filming!" But the point was that Blake said there was NO intimacy coordinator while filming. I honestly think he's a probably a real weird dude, and that she is also terrible to work with. But I could tell you more detail (in order) from watching a couple 15 min spill sesh videos.
When he leaned in and said the spray tan smelled good you can’t see that he actually kissed her. That shot was really dark and lots of ppl are not actually kissing in movies but the camera angles make it look like they are. He could have easily just leaned in close and didn’t actually make contact with his lips. Also in her lawsuit she talks about how he wasn’t in character and no talking was needed. SHE was the one who wouldn’t shut up! He didn’t want there to be talking and she kept insisting on it. There was no scripted dialogue for them to use to stay in character with.
thank you!! she was directing, saying they should talk because her and ryan never shut up because that’s what she thinks is romantic, and when JB says he thinks staring into each others eyes is romantic, she calls him a psychopath!!
The whole thing was weird because she acted like he went off script... But both of them were off script the whole damn time 😭 how do you expect him to be on script when you guys are both improvising and intimate scene??????
@@nyxhemera6681 exactly! When Olivia said they were not following the dialogue it's simply because they didn't have anything written because it was supposed to be a silent scene 🤷🏼♀️ is Blake actually telling us she can't just act?? She was clearly the one that kept talking and if she stopped and done her job without trying to direct everything then the scene would have been faster to record.. She could have said cut at any time too
Honestly it just looks like he laughed into her shoulder/Crook of her neck. I didn't see a kiss and nobody else did either. That's the truth of that matter.
Ethan is so weirdly judgemental. I mean sure jokes, but making fun of him for crying, saying how one person can say they never watched something and the other saying they had addiction problem (imo it was only because the adult stuff, if the topic was alcohol or drugs, it wouldn't be even discussed as something so weird). the baldoni guy is weird, i don't really like his performative positive image, but on the same time, Ethan gives so many strays for members and listeners, especially men.... like men shouldn't open up they had bad addictions they overcame? they shouldn't have strong emotions when somebody supports their work? huh? gives off the weird vibe from ethan ngl
I think it was very vulnerable for Baldoni to admit that he used to have a porn addiction. Blake was talking about how she didn’t like porn and he was talking about how he overcame the struggles with that. If he used to have a porn addiction, then it’s not like he’s actively still watching it. They make it sound like he’s just some creep, when in reality, the majority of men these days all have an active porn addiction, and they just don’t realize a lot of men will be in denial about that. It’s actually quite common but men don’t admit it. and I know I will face criticism for saying that, but it’s true.
I couldn't watch this episode. i felt like i was going crazy seeing olivia, ethan, and ab having the most insane takes on certain respective subjects.. LIKE IDEK WHO IM WATCHING ANYMORE???
The lawsuit segment was really odd... it didnt feel like a fair assessment of the situation. If the lawsuit does end up ending in justins favor yall would have contributed to the narrative of him being a predator, which wouldnt be bad if any of the evidence was valid. Blakes "evidence" is continuously disproved but yall seem to brush it off or make excuses for it. In the footage she stated she wanted to talk because the script instructed them to stay silent. She was going off script. Justin refers to her and ryan talking because blake said she thought that was romantic. Justin then mentions his wife and the fact that they like to have a silent moment while they dance because he drew inspiration from his own life experiences. Yes justin can be cringe but i feel like hes just giving the adult theater kid vibe. I remember the theater kids in highschool always being so extra but that was their vibe which is fine. it was their gig and who am i to judge. i dont think thats indicative of him being a predator. The whole coverage of this situation has made me feel a little icky. Love the h3 crew but if all this does come out to be a bunch of lies on blakes part i hope they can at least try to clear the the name of justin considering that im sure they have contributed to convincing many people that watch the show that hes a predator...the whole situation is is giving johnny depp v. amber heard...
i know the jury can just lie when they say they dont know anything about the drama but its still on them, not a random podcast, if they are swayed by sources they never should've listened to. are you serious? are we now watching podcasts to make an executive decision on whether someone's guilty? if this isnt time to touch grass
@@spookeymo obviously I’m not saying the podcast is going to determine a court case but they can sway public opinion. If Justin doesn’t turn out to be a creep I think it’s kinda messed up that a podcast that gets thousands of views is calling him a predator… is that not wrong? I’m saying this as a fan of the show.
Sorry but calling this sexual harassment and suing someone over these vague words and situations that could be interpreted completely differently by a different person is wild. She said bring me the suppositories or something like that in that text, Justin could easily say that that is her using inappropriate language and he feels sexual harassed by her( I´m sure she would call it pornographic if he was the one saying that)...same thing. If he wanted to be as ridiculous as her he could even say something like that when she referred to herself as sexy in front of him , it made him feel uncomfortable and sexually harassed because it felt like she was hitting on him.
i don’t think covering this lawsuit is a good idea anymore, Olivia lacks to present properly on the suits and is easily siding with Ethan’s weird ass takes to continue to be Team Blake. idk it’s all so weird and gathering some of her info from Emily Baker isnt a smart idea considering Ryan R follows her, she holds a biased opinion.
This was super frustrating to watch. At this point, I just want to see what the other actors/crew have to say about their experiences with Baldoni. As it stands right now, I don't know how much Lively can be trusted. I disagree with you guys about the dancing scene - I don't think Lively felt very uncomfortable in the moment, and she was participating in the nuzzling/talking just as much as Baldoni. And IMO her description in the complaint is basically just a lie, not simply a misinterpretation. So I don't know how much we can trust any of her other claims. But if several other people come out and say that Baldoni sexually harassed them in some way (and aren't just lying like Lively seems to be), then I'll happily be on Lively's side. It definitely seems like Baldoni is a narcissistic weirdo who plays up his feminism for attention from women, but I also believe that Lively probably took over the set like Baldoni says, and potentially could be lying about basically everything in order to take control of the sequel (if there even is a sequel after this), and in order to sweep her other negative stuff under the rug. Keep in mind that Baldoni's people didn't actually run a smear campaign against Lively (though they were about to do that in response to what her team might do), but it seems like Lively's people *were* doing some sort of campaign against Baldoni, or were at least ready to start one just like his people were. She got all that negative attention leading up to (and upon release of) the movie, so she likely wanted the attention drawn away from her. The one thing that I think gives some good support for Lively is the initial 17-point list she made, because that makes it seem like she was feeling uncomfortable earlier on (not sure how early though - I haven't followed closely enough), though even that list could potentially either be a bunch of lies or purposeful misinterpretations, but I don't know what her reasoning would've been at that point. Did she somehow figure that that would allow her to start taking over the movie, or something? That wouldn't really make sense (unless she's just incredibly conniving), so I think it's likely that the 17-point list was legit, or at least, these were legit issues she had. Not sure...
Analysing that clip, Ethan was going in with so many preconceptions. Bringing up their spouses Justin is basically explaining their differences in perceptions of what is romantic, yapping all the time for her vs. being silent and staring for him, and in the almost kissing scene she's not saying "let's just talk", she's saying "it should start with us talking", so she's just trying to direct the scene. You're trying to twist it so much.
@ It's a big he said she said, the evidence honestly doesn't support either one of these people either way, even though they seem to think it is, which is why a court of law needs to see the case and determine all of their facts. But i operate under "believe all victims" until irrefutable evidence is released that shows they are lying, I've yet to see that evidence, so I'm not going to let my distaste for Blake Lively as a person have me color her accusations and assume she's lying, like FAR too many people in this comment section are doing.
@@SnakeMCGaming I'm literally not saying anything about the bigger he said she said situation. Ethan was saying she said "let's just talk" when she didn't say the "just", that would completely change the meaning. All I am saying is, in regards to the clip just listen to what they are actually saying without trying to twist it.
Blake shouldnt be an actress in a love film if she doesnt want romantic scenes. Also she didnt even read the f-king book. That dancing scene is IN THE BOOK. WANNA KNOW WHAT PISSES ME OFF.. THIS SCENE IS IN THE MOVIE A MOVIE SHE STOLE AND EDITED IF IT WAS SO UNCOMFORTABLE WHY DID YOU USE THE FOOTAGE?!?! RETRAMATIZING YOURSELF EVERYTIME ITS SHOWN?! They have 30 seconds to show us them falling in love before pretty much getting engaged. She didnt push him away. He HANDS ARE CONSTANTLY ON HIM. ON HIS chest, on his face around his neck. Biting her lip, giggling. SHE THOUGHT THIS SCENE had no audio and thought thos was her ticket. It back fired. Also.. lastly if you feel like you were legit being creepy or has ill will... WOULD YOU SHOW THE WORLD. He literally breaks charcter when he says cut. This whole thing is so f-ked.
I'm over the gos talk section. Ethan steam rolls over important info with these terribly biased comments and Olivia doesn't go back to reiterate their importance. For example, at 2:41:50 Justin clearly tells Blake he wants her to direct this part to make her more comfortable. They rewatch the scene 3 times, talk over it and only focus on hand placement. They literally never mention Justin's commentary. Its poor reporting and very frustrating.
The size of Ethan's ego wouldn't allow him to say that he was wrong about Baldoni. There is direct evidence against Blake and he is still yapping about how much he hates Baldoni.
I had no idea hair transplants were that complicated. Hoping for a speedy recovery for Dan 😔🙏🏼
This needs to be top comment 😂
I read this comment and thought it was serious😂@@0218Erfzul
Y’all coming for Dan left and right out here 💀💀
Okay but imagine that’s actually why he was gone and he sees this 😭
Takes some time to fly to Turkey and back
I crashed & died because there wasn't a traffic report today, thanks Dan.
same
I'm sorry for your lose
AB didnt save you?
RIP 😔
Rip
Where's the bald one? Cam or whatever his name is?
ethan fired him cause he's a communist
Tom ward usually only does member streams 👨🦲
Gabe grew his hair out actually 😊
Think his name is Tom or sm.
Mayo for Sam
Dan being off is the equivalent to when your best friend was sick from school & you’re just chilling with other people but you miss your bestie dearly
Omg yes!! I was missing Dan’s commentary
Sooo true😂😂😂
I gotta lock in damn
Dan and Zach are def the most noticeable when they’re gone.
@@willwalker4918 100%
The fact that Ethan and Olivia cannot understand what’s going on in the scene is exactly how drama and lies starts. The reason why he brought up Ryan is because she wants to talk so much during the scene and he’s trying to resonate it with oh you and Ryan must talk all the time meaning she’s thinking people talking during moments like this are normal because that’s what she experiences. Oh my God it’s like dude really!!
when he said he and his wife stare at each other in silence for several minutes i thought that was weird. talking feels more natural lol
@opers_dopers but thats the point justins making, some people talk, some enjoy silence and find more depth through just sensing, both is ok but if you only know one side it might be weird to understand the other
This
I'm into drama enough to be a fan of this show but that whole thing was ridiculous they would watch 10 second chunks at a time analyzing every phrase and every action. Does anyone think about what they say that much? no they dont. so why are they analyzing it like every word was articulately chosen? They are talking 2 inches away from each other people say shit that sounds weird.
IMO she has a right to sue for a lack of an intimacy coordinator and unscripted intimacy can be unexpected. But with that being said they are acting as characters in love like wtf is the problem? Hes acting hes not actually doing these things to her bc he wants to do it to HER. if that makes sense. Also I'd have assumed, and I think he assumed, that when ur playing these characters together for a while with sex scenes and kissing and touching that during a slow dance scene with faces 2 inches away that the character would do what he was doing. I might just be lacking empathy here but ur acting stfu and play the character. if ur uncomfy dont be an actor or dont pickup a role in a film like this.
reading that back sounds very aggressive I do think she has a right to sue but I don't think she should have is all im saying
@@missriss_xoxo it’s because Ethan can’t shut up and just focus on what’s being presented. And he’s already made his mind up on Justin being a weirdo so he was just trying to convince everyone of the creepiness the whole time instead of looking at it subjectively
I only realize dan wasnt here when ethan mentioned that 47 is not a young age, and Dan didn't remind him he's only 4 years away
I was also really feeling his absence during the liger/tigon talk. ik trusty ole Swerdlove would've set the record straight on "it's just what happens when a boy lion loves a girl tiger 🥰" and "that's how humans evolved too!" lmao
I bet Dan missed the show because he's covered in slime.
stick your funger
Im covered in gooooo
how is he supposed to do the show when he’s covered in slime?
Jacket off
LMAOO @@vee2892
I can't believe Dan got fired
L+BALD!
I tought he quit? Angrily.
Well thank god he’s alive at least thought he may have got caught in the wildfires.
@@holypopo
hes gone back to his one true love: california pizza kitchen
How is this pod missing the main points? Her omitting parts of their text messages? Even the sexy message, she's the one that said she wants a sexy outfit. He just replied with the same. And as for the scene, they were acting. She kept wanting to talk and made it awkward by not taking the director's direction.
And please don't say this hasn't affected anyone. Justin lost his agency, jobs and even had an award rescinded. Her complaint has already ruined his life.
It’s so clear that Ethan just doesn’t want to admit he was initially wrong on the blake sit.
She looks hella uncomfortable to me. She moved way backwards every time he tried to kiss her
@@StealingSunsets that’s literally part of the scene which they discuss in the beginning of the clip. She says “they want it. Don’t let them have it. Almost kiss but don’t”
The scene is them falling in love but not there yet and the character is recoiling. Y’all are not watching this correctly smh it’s a movie scene
@@ac-jn1iqshe’s saying that in response to him trying to kiss her repeatedly with no warning
And?
Yessss
I really missed the host of the show today :( hope he's back tomorrow
He’s back tomorrow, and the old guy won’t be there!
“Dan is not here today” *clicks off the video*
It just isn't the same without a bald screaming man
"More PowerPoint on balzonya" clicks off the video
I actually dropped a like on the video today Ethan being restricted is kind of why
heartbreaking moment
Dan is a co host at this point
Should’ve waited for Dan with the Baldino presentation. He gives so much balance to these things 🙌🏼
Dan is definitely more balanced. He tries to understands the whole not just the parts.
Yeah we definitely needed him
Baldino 😭🤣
Fr!!!
this.
SOOO BIAS ! its a hard watch blake gets the benefit of the doubt in every situation but if Justin put his hand on blakes back you have to measure how close his hand is to her but in a slow dance scene ??
exactly
literallyyy soo frustrating ethan pls re-evaluate with peace & love
Blake totally mischaracterized what happened in that slow dancing scene . I’m not really sure how you guys have the take that you take. Of course filming a romantic scene what someone who’s not your partner is going to be uncomfortable, and she has admitted in the past that all of the romantic scenes, she films are uncomfortable, but that doesn’t mean that Justin is acting inappropriate towards her in anyway. part of the role is that they have to act like they’re in love!!! I feel like this isn’t rocket science and it’s clear that the way she described what happened and the reality is vastly different
Fax
I also don't understand how they interpreted the "You and Ryan must talk all the time" line like they did. They were discussing what looks more romantic - talking - or just staring in each others eyes, small physical touch, almost kissing... and actually she started all these discussions out of character. Justin then bring up that maybe for Ryan and her talking is their love language and how they connect - but that it's different for him and his wife (girlfriend?).
@@annale91why are they discussing it while the camera is rolling? Why not just break and get on the same page with intimacy coordinator?
If you'd ever had experience dealing with a creepy dude you'd understand
the justin guy definitely seems like an absolute choch, but to blake this was clearly about boosting her career credentials and using whatever leverage she can
Baldoni saying “It smells good 😃” in response to her comment is VERY DIFFERENT than saying “It smells SO good 😏” unprompted, as Lively’s lawsuit alleges. I think in this instance Lively is manipulating what Baldoni said to make it seem much worse, which leads me to be skeptical of the entire suit.
They missed so much context. Olivia is so bad at giving appropriate context. It’s killing me.
@@alicetoyou448idk this whole thing seems od asf imo..
@@a1yssaa there are plenty of creators that have covered it in a more linear fashion. I would suggest watching them.
Yeah this changes things before it felt like the guy went around all Joe Biden
@@alicetoyou448Yup! I had to skip the segment after like 20min of watching because I couldn't deal
That scene is confusing because they are acting. The body language is acting. The dialogue is not.
Because they're supposed to be visually acting, but in the film, music plays over that moment. So they're supposed to look the part of two people falling for each other, and not sound the part.
And because of that, they’re both using it to their advantage
Imagine having an attractive actor/director acting sexy, acting attracted, acting affectionate, but instead of the barrier of "this is the character" that's not there. It's Justin acting like the character to Blake. These are real conversations and real quips that are related to Blake and Justin's personal identity. The spray tan, the mention of their SOs.. the fact that they were talking like they're friends while acting like characters in love is so confusing and weird
@@themathdragon9806 It's because they were filming a montage that was going to be covered over with music in the film, so what they said didn't matter. They were filming it for the look of two people falling in love. That's why that's happening like that.
@@themathdragon9806 Even if I accept your premise, a coordinated NYT take down on top of a federal lawsuit does not seem like proportional response. The scene is in a crowded bar, in front of cameras and crew. There is no coercion. At minimum she consented to filming a scene as intimate as slow dancing.
The reality is they are professional actors. She’s also not in character. Intimate scenes are notoriously uncomfortable. No one likes it but it’s what you sign up for. Sure, maybe in a perfect world every touch should have been coordinated and approved. He’s not doing this to get off or pressure her or harass her. He’s getting a shot for his movie.
Nah, Ryan Reynolds literally offered to buy the franchise & when Justin said No the lawsuits started dropping
Ethan dying on Baldoni hill is killlllllinnnngggggg meeee 😵💫
LOL! craaazy to watch.
Y’all are making a real mess of this Baldoni thing. Thank goodness for AB and Lena
Ethan… sorry but I think you decided Justin was guilty from the jump and now everything is shaded with that in mind. Even by the rest of the crew a lot of times… I’m not gonna lie. Within just the first MINUTE of that muted dance video I was like HOW COULD ANY DIRECTOR WORK WITH HER? She tried to correct every single thing he said and did and change it…. She’s not the director…. What in the world? I feel like Ryan might have gotten jealous too…. I wonder if she was home complaining about everything and they decided to take over. He might be cringy af but I don’t think he’s the one in the wrong here. And mentioning Ryan? I think he was trying to put it out there that he’s NOT trying to be inappropriate bc he knows she’s with Ryan… and then he mentions his wife too…I feel like he could feel her disconnecting and so he was like “yup, know you’re married and I’m married… we’re just doing a movie.” Blake was 10000% not staying in character. She just LIED…. She was trying to be the director wtf 😂
this.
100%. I tried to watch this video but they didn’t even try to hear the man out because ethan already has his mind made up.
I love how you guys agree Blake was caught in a blatant LIE, but continue taking her side throughout the remainder of segment😂
Support women xD even the bad once ig
THIS! I'm so confused I feel crazy lol
It’s driving me insane I had to skip the segment
So strange
Average IQ of the show’s cast goes down 40% without Dan
I don’t even like him but must agree.
Lmao 😂
Desperately needed Dan for the law suit segment to talk common sense into everyone
It really does 😭
Yes they should have waited for Dan
The Blake and Justin take was so wildy biased! I'm always the first person to defend women but she's got a history of having major issues in almost every major project she's ever done. Also her history of racism... It's not that she's not a perfect victim, she has a history of nasty behaviour and retaliating when things don't go her way and he proved that if you bothered to actually listen to his side of things.
Honestly if you are a person who is all about defending woman, and making their right to speak out against sexual harassers, we should really put A LOT more pressure on people who lie about something like that happening. When someone lies about something that serious it doesnt just affect the person accused, it affects every single person who has ever been sexually assaulted/raped/etc. It is actively horrible for the victims of real crimes, and needs to be called out HARD.
It is highly biased. They even defended TS, but it was clear in the text messages she's signed off every page. She's not innocent. TS knows exactly what blake is doing, she been in the industry longer than the age of her fans. Been friend with Blake for over a decade. She won't be called her Dragon for nothing. These H3 people are too young and gullible!
It's true that there is no perfect victim but being credible still matters.
@ Absoultely. Especially in a time like now where misogyny is at an all time high, having an A-list woman lie about a situation like this to try to destroy a man's career will only make those men hate women and not believe us even more than they already do. It's unfortuantely destroying all womens' credibility and makes me extremely angry.
@ Well she's also known for weaponising feminism to make herself a victim when she doesn't get her way. Neither care about feminism until they can use it to gain sympathy and avoid accountability. Birds of a feather.
i feel like ethan is projecting a little. almost as if the reason for hating on Justin is bc he's too good looking to be standing up for women & he MUST have an ulterior motive. we should be standing together & not dividing. the case here is totally biased, opposed to the opinion of the media after the release of receipts. Ethan holds a lot of influence in his team
with peace & love
Not Ethan analyzing Justin's body language during the raw footage, but then when AB asks a question about Blake's body language, he goes "SHE'S ACTING!" The bias is so obvious 😂
thank youuu exactlyyyyy!
Right like during the slow motion scene they were both NOT in character.
Timestamps pls
Well you are talking about two different peoples claims and one who followed what was scripted and one who didn’t. This is just B roll, talking, dancing and looking lovingly at the other. So small take saying random things again is normal, when it goes off script is when you start adding in extra touching/kissing that’s not scripted while also telling her she smells good. What’s weird about his body language were his actual actions that weren’t discussed prior to shooting the scene
And I'm just pointing out the bias. Justin is still creepy. But Blake is a liar.
HE DID NOT SAY YOU SMELL GOOD HE SAID IT SMELLS GOOD (about the spray tan)
Are you guys watching the same video???? I mean come on!!!!!!
Also if you’ve read the book which ironically even Blake didn’t bother to read, the onesies were supposed to match and all characters in that scene were wearing those like family tradition or something so asking her to remove the damn jacket is also in sync with the bloody book!!!!!!
Stop being blind in your hatred for one person.
Just curious if he loses then what will be your take on that 🧐
@ if he loses without blake being able to prove she is right, then my take would remain the same. Many people lose legal cases on the basis of technicalities. Although, if he loses with sufficient evidence and witnesses to prove Blake’s claims then sure he is guilty. So far, she looks like a liar not him.
Also I believe to say " you smell good" its not a bad thing to say, at least in my country its a normal compliment.
It can be said in a creepy way but it all depends on the facial expression and situation. I don't think it was creepy in that case.
On the other hand the dude gives a bit of weird vibes, the proposal narcissistic video was very strange. Blake seems to be an insufferable diva thou.
Maybe both did wrong things.
Seems to me it was more a battle for power between them not a sexual harassment situation.
But she may have felt for real disgusted if she had to do sex scenes while not getting along at all with him.
Thats is simply how acting works and its not his fault but she may have for real felt that way.
THISSSSS!!! Every other outlet I watch can get it why cant my favorite show. It’s disappointing and honestly makes me have to rethink their takes from now.
@@breannabilllings898SAME i usually agree with them on everything but their take on this situation has been driving me INSANE! normally i immediately believe and side with a woman, which i did when she first came out with her claims. Until BLATANT EVIDENCE came out from Justin literally showing she misconstrued/exaggerated almost every single claim she made. I understand wanting to side with a woman about these types of claims because many women are disregarded, but this is SO different than the typical case
Blake is giving “I can cross boundaries I set but you can’t.” Which isn’t how boundaries work. Either you follow your own boundaries or you’re just using “boundaries” in a manipulative way.
Yes exactly! I hate how they're excusing her behavior because she's a woman and actress. She's the one with more power in this situation, she clearly has no problem yapping her mind off, she's touching him all over, so if this is a problem for her he'd have the same right to see as a problem
I dislike how Olivia just gives up/ gives in to Ethans opinion on Baldoni situation. She tries to argue and then gives up after two words. Could this be because of their power dynamic. He’s her boss so she feels like there’s not point to change his mind and must comply…..( she how things can be misconstrued. Just saying 🤷🏻♀️) peace and love
@@jogenovez4366 I tried to watch the segment but had to stop because this was happening too much 😅
@@jogenovez4366I hope they see this comment. Because it’s so true. JB was director, but she had more power!
She literally thinks she's God's gift to earth. BD saying "you guys are so cute." Is not a diss dude. She took it so offensively like CUTE!? We are not just cute we are couple goals, you'd be better off to understand this now.
She lied. She manipulated. If ethan didn't go back to check footage this is how these rumors get started. She's awful. Period.
I love H3, but my god, Ethan pauses and asks way too many questions, and then assumes right away without watching the clip and fully comprehending what's happening. If you just watch the clip, Ethan, you'll have all of your answers.
Olivia, every single time you backed down, it was Ethan's take that was wrong and infuriating. Don't back down, you're getting a lot of men and women upset with you because his take on all of this was god-awful. You're the one who put it together, you're the one who did all of the research. Ethan doesn't have all the facts and it shows.
Justin may be a cringe person, but he makes his wife happy. In that proposal video, his WIFE/FIANCE LOVED the whole thing. That wasn't for anyone else to judge but her and it made her happy, so what is the problem? So, making immediate judgments and holding bias because of that makes all of your arguments invalid.
We need Dan back to talk some common sense into this. My god, this was very embarrassing and infuriating for everyone on this episode.
The grasping at straws to make Balsagna look bad is kinda crazy. At the end of day they both sound insufferable but I wouldn’t call him a sexual harasser (based on the evidence).
that's what being Woke is, you just grasp at straws and pull shit out of your ass when confronted with the facts.
Agreed. Based on the evidence. Not sure why they're reaching here. His statements lined up exactly with the scene. Hers did not. Not a good look for her. And I don't even have a dog in this fight, nor do I care, but when there's evidence, it needs to be considered.
@@qui_etes_vouswho cares
@ lol, what does that mean, WHO CARES. Everyone cares about everything because everything matters. Whatever you do and put out in the world at any point, matters. So you look at the world today and see how it's empty and dead....this is due to society making bad choices. In the past, people thought differently and the world looked a lot different. what you put in, you get. Nothing is inconsequential, that is a delusion. Shut up.
@@qui_etes_vous I’m not reading all that, but I’m happy for you or I’m sorry that happened
I disagree with Love, if Blake is proven to be lying, it’s not just her being an asshole. It’s a person with a lot of power bending the truth and using their power to fulfil their agenda (likely getting the rights for the second movie so it can be her little project), and disregarding actual victims of sexual harassment in the process. She makes all women who come out against their abusers be second guessed. I’m not on either side, but I think the accusations brought to both of them are severe, and should be taken seriously.
Just starting the episode. Did Love really say that? I've gone to think of him as really level-headed but that's bad take.
@ he says it right at the end of the episode, yeah. Basically that the allegations against Justin are way worse than the ones against Blake, that hers are just her being annoying. Lol.
@@amerrs6616 excusing someone's lying isn't "woke" or "feminist." Please. I agree with the original comment but this one is NOT it.
@@eddierusset lmao youre so dramatic lmao
@nerveendings-p3u completely misunderstood them lmao
The baldoni bit is crazy biased. The whole time she is insisting that they talk despite the script and vision is them dancing. She is talking out of character and insisting they talk. You can see from the beginning she doesn’t like him pushing back about being on their mark and then insisting about talking and then she is defensive about her and Ryan being cute. I also think it’s possible after she was joking about his nose and he joked back about Jenny Slate’s, Blake went back and twisted the situation to Jenny which could have resulted/contributed to her flipping sides
Ethan’s constant confirmation bias is so insufferable
PLEASE. Shut him up. Like don't even talk about something if you're going to be fake and biased.
OLIVIA.. read the body language girl!! Are ya’ll watching a different video?? Blake clearly misrepresented what her lawsuit states in a MAJOR way. Just because he is cringe doesn’t mean everything Blake said is true.. like c’mon guys.
I’ve never seen a group of people so unable to read the room and interpret what’s going on. It really shows you how peoples perceptions get so skewed because they have no common sense for certain situations. The fact that they’re judging the way someone’s acting when they’re literally acting in a movie is beyond me.
there were so many conversations had that i said, “i wish dan was here,” and thats how you know how special he is to the show. WAN
I have a different interpretation of the comment Baldoni made about Blake and Ryan. If you watch the interaction from the beginning it makes more sense.
Baldoni intended for the scene to be a silent dance with them staring into each other's eyes.
Blake wanted to redirect it to be a scene of them laughing and talking. She kept saying I think we should talk it's more romantic.
So that's when he said I bet you and Ryan talk all the time, but Emily and I can stare into each other's eyes long periods of time. (but Blake interrupted him so he couldn't finish.) that's why it seemed like it came from no where. He was just trying to make a comparison between the two couples and validate both types of romance.
At the end he looks a bit annoyed and says we probably have like 17 minutes of footage. I'm guessing this was supposed to be a quick short scene that was part of a slow motion montage and if it wasn't for Blake taking over it wouldn't have taken so long to film.
Also they missed the part a the start of the scene where he kisses her neck, before the camera goes back to them you hear him saying "I'm going to kiss you, I'll remove the hat" and then she says something about the hat in response. So to me he did check in for her consent there and gave her a heads up of him going to kiss her. We don't see the footage though just hear them talking, so we don't know if he implied he was going to kiss her lips or pointed along her neck while saying it.
I do agree with them that it's harder for her to be in a position to say no when it's a director but I don't think they paid enough attention to that snippet of audio
@@elisedemerveilles3065 No, he mentions it first. Look at the full video. He's even about to say Emily after but she butts in.
This
@@lauraj6694 It doesn't sound like she have a problem saying no to the director. She was trying to direct the scene from the first take. I think he probably mentioned about stare into each other's eye to get Blake to take the hint that is what he is trying to go for in this scene.
I’m
Are we watching the same video???? How does saying " I might be getting my spray tan on you" mean "get away/ back off ( 2:34:40 )"?? I feel like y'all are reaching and are showing a very clear Blake bias. Y'all are reading wayyyy too much into the small talk they were making. I get that you want to support and believe women when they speak up about SA, however you must admit Justin's team has been showing nothing but receipts. Love you guys but your takes with this whole situation make me feel like i'm being gaslit to be on Team Lively lol.
Yes this! It's so frustrating too hear them bring up points just to make Justin seem like the bad guy when the point of the video is to analyze the whole situation, not try to further this narrative that they're so insistent on believing. These are two ACTORS filming a scene of two people FALLING IN LOVE, that's why he's ACTING that way. All of the "what do we think about his hand placement?" "He kissed her neck." "He just wants to make out with her." Was so frustrating to listen to
Literally so much reaching
It is infuriating. They are not doing a good job with reporting this situation. Honestly i would prefer they just stop talking about it. Spill Sesh does a wonderful job reporting this story.
Im already dreading getting to this point in the show i had a feeling they would double down on the blakes a victim
that was the first receipt that made any sense
Everything I've learned about Destiny has been against my will 😭
No literally 😭😭😭
I've never sought out the guy. Never typed the word destiny into a browser. Never even played the game. But I know so much on this guy some that scars me to this day.
you should know Lonerbox was a close associate with Destiny until this. also, alot of clips Ethan has gotten against Hasan over the last months have been from his community
@@aweshumandy so what if the points against
Hasan was from destiny or a destiny subreddit? As long as ethan does his due diligence and if he finds there is merit to what they say then it should still be valid. I f'ing hate snarkers who always say this stupid arguement
@edwinbarretto-d2z and therein lies the issue. . .
In regard to her complaint in her lawsuit about this scene with “no Audio”.
She lied about what was said,
Not knowing his mic was actually ON
She has been called out. on this particular complaint
Another Complaint was complaining about him coming into her trailer when she was pumping breast milk
- Then He has raised a text of an invitation from her inviting him in to her trailer to work on lines whilst she is breast pumping
Another complaint was one him showing her pornography pictures
- the picture was an elegant picture of a homebirth of his friend, no nudity in it.. re child birth scene
His lawyer is uploading all receipts / every text email onto a website atm. And she has DEMANDED a GAG order..
which has been denied 🙅
Too many times to be called out..
A jury is not going to like her lies.
(Oh and another complaint was fat shaming
- he had to ask her weight before picking her up because of his bad back.
Yet she laughed and shamed him about needing Plastic Surgery asap on his big Nose)
Really?The gag order was denied.That's awesome👍
BL: We should scoot back and get on our marks. The light is behind you.
JB: It actually looks better like this.
BL: Oh, okay.
EK: DID YOU SEE THAT? SHE RECOILED IN DISGUST!! GUILTY!
🙃🙃🙃
I could not believe you guys were still batting for Blake after that clip 😂 He didn’t seem to be inappropriate AT ALL and was tryjng to be in character with body language since no words were necessary. Both of them were “out of character” in terms of talking
And Blake was insisting on being out of character. Before he even gave any action for her to be “uncomfortable” with like they are trying to say in the pod. I don’t understand their take
I think it was a mistake starting with the cringy videos from his past. Those videos made me cringe too, and typically you might see those things from someone who is pretending to be a good person or “putting on a show”. I think that is so engrained in their minds, Ethan’s especially, that they can’t see past it. They think he’s a weird/fake person because of the “introduction” to him
@@ling2555 Oh, they were DEFINITELY cringe, but it doesn’t automatically make him a sexual molester/harasser. It’s very obvious Blake was trying to completely twist the context of what was said or done for the lawsuit. I love the crew, but it feels like we were watching two different videos 😭
@@Ebichuchu 100% agree! It’s frustrating because I usually completely agree with their takes, they tend to have good ones. But this situation is not one of those.. I fear it’s because once Ethan has his mind made up on something he has a VERY hard time seeing or considering anything to the contrary. The rest of the crew I think is just having a hard time going “against” a woman which I understand, but I think there’s enough evidence now to show she isn’t exactly being truthful with a lot of things.
I think the crew is terrified to take a man’s side lol like cmon that video obviously disproves what she “claimed”!
I’m sorry, but Blake doesnt have any hesitation giving direction to the director. I don’t think for a second that she felt any kind of pressure to be touched/kissed without her consent. I think the video clearly demonstrates that she wasn’t traumatized in any way from that shot. Like, from the guys pov, her saying “I might get makeup on you” amounts to her being uncomfortable? For sure, that’s a great way to tell someone you’re uncomfortable… I think that once she started the lawsuit, she wracked her memory for any instances in which she didn’t give exact, down to the body movement, consent.
I don’t understand Blake’s relectuance to do romantic things in this movie and pushing the narrative that he is sexually harassing her. It’s a fucking romance movie. You have to play the part. If you don’t want to do that then don’t play a role in a romance movie.
AB clearly being a Hasan fan makes Ethan talking so much about him awkward as hell 😅
Yeah AB saying stuff like F Joe Biden is exactly why we have Trump now. This is hasan’s brain dead takes. These people are not on our side it’s so disgusting.
Why even cover the lawsuit if you’re just gonna completely ignore the other side and be so obviously biased 😂
Because funny
Literally, stick to goss talk not lawsuits
These people are likely paid by Blake’s PR Team.
@@idakristinedemesa5234h3 is definitely not being paid by Blake's team lmfao they can't even get a Manscaped deal
Right, like how useless were they.
so sad Dan quit the pod... it will never be the same
How can Blake be mad that he improvised when he wanted to dance silently and SHE suggested they talk and improvise?
Also, for Love talking about Justin choosing to be the male lead, the author of the book actually suggested he play the character after his studio bought the rights and there are text messages to prove that.
Not the same without baldy 😢
Not one single mention of Elon Musk is INSANE.
Yeeppp, cause ADL are not sure what he meant.... So Ethan as well..
Why cover the inauguration at all without covering this??? Wtffff
why is it insane.... why? they probably had it on the doc, just missed it. EVERYONE knows about it already, the whole subreddit was full of it, why is it so necessary that they talk about it?
@@spookeymo Because of the very important video ethan has dedicated so much time against Hasan to combat Antisemitism. Focusing on minute details and language debating whether Hasan is pushing a certain message to his audience, outright or subliminally. And then you have Elon musk in full display on the biggest stage sieg heiling and it doesn’t deserve even a mention?
@@that1fluffydude210 This. I'm a mega long time fan but Ethan has been brain broken for the last 2 months straight, sadly. It's frustrating to hear Hasan mentioned literally any and every chance to elude to him in every single episode and acts like Hasan doesn't bring a hint of comedic relief to his content EXACTLY like Ethan does. Even Dan and AB have been pushing back lately and uncomfortably it seems like at this point but that could be me being parasocial.
Bias bias bias. Ethan doesn’t budge a bit or open to others opinions.
I'm so confused on how much the entire panel is misreading the body language and dialogue of the footage. Even if we wanted to show grace to Blake and say "okay she didn't outright lie" it's very clear that she misrepresented all of her claims to suggest that he was inappropriate when all his evidence has proven that he wasn't. Even if the lines were blurred on both parties, the things she claimed in the lawsuit were just really overexaggerated if not flat out false. She misread a lot of awkward situations because there was blurred boundaries (meetings in the trailer, comments made about wardrobe, unrehearsed dialogue) but to claim he was sexually harassing her was blasphemy and clearly an attempt to shift the power dynamic in order to obtain the rights to the sequel film. She was not an actress that was easy to work with and stayed in her lane, she overstepped and attempted MULTIPLE times to take over the director role. Very weird how much the facts are being spun to favor the bias of Blake being the victim. I understand giving the benefit of the doubt because we live in a standard "believe all women" society, but facts are facts and quite frankly, the facts are not representing the notion that she was a victim of sexual harassment. It shows that she came into the job with the intention to control many aspects of the film and when she did not get her way, she became spiteful enough to conjure up a narrative that would turn the public against him. Really disappointed that the crew isn't seeing thru this bullshit
Well said
This!!!
Thank you!! It felt like the more the crew discussed the video the more convoluted it became for them. They completely ignored that he never said that he “I’m not even attracted to you” as she claimed he responded to her during that scene. The whole time they are pointing out Justin is “more into her” because he’s actually acting while Blake is focused on attempting to control the edit aka not acting.
Spot on, they also needed more context from both lawsuits before watching the video. It's actually frustrating to watch and I usually don't care about "drama" lol
Also, they're referencing the intimacy coordinator being on set, but Blake said in an interview that there was no intimacy coordinator during filming, and she had to do it herself. I'm pretty sure that was brought up in her lawsuit, too. But last ep they were saying, "She just didn't want to meet with the intimacy coordinator before filming!" Though she claimed there wasn't one on set.
What was in that video was not sexual harassment. They’re filming a romantic scene you’re allowed to do some improvisation within reason. They’re going to stop make movies if people keep dropping law suits for ridiculous reasons.
Exactly! What he didn't wasn't crazy. There are other allegations though about him going into her trailer etc when she wasn't ready but since she lied about this i don't know how much she's stretching the truth.
Really like Lena is getting more involved in the topics. Great work, keep it up!
After this attempt to cover the Blake and Justin situation I think it is clear you guys are not able to retain all of the facts and just are spewing misinformation. I suggest you all watch Spill Sesh's videos were she goes into great detail about the situation. WITH PEACE AND LOVE plz stop bringing up this topic.
they need to have spill sesh on the pod
@biblestudybaddie that would be amazing! But they would need to listen to an opposing opinion and I am not convinced they are able to do that.
Its so hard even watching you guys discuss the blake vs baldoni case because you have such a bias and preconceived judgment to begin with!! Ethan is constantly and actively LOOKING for things wrong. The hand “placement” her “oh okay” response and ect. First of all THEY ARE ACTING! “He is being too romantic” UMM THATS HIS JOB TO PORTRAY A MAN WHO ROMANTICALLY IS INTERESTED IN HER. Maybe she shouldnt take on a role that makes her uncomfortable? Thank you to Lena for chiming in with atleast a little defense… meanwhile Ethan, olivia and love stay biased.
And the whole “getting my beard on you thing” what just after she said she didnt want to get spray tan on him…. He most definitely could of had beard makeup on aswell , making that comment completely relevant and appropriate.
Ethan comes off as a petty, envious, insecure lil man and its kinda pathetic. He decided early on he doesnt like Justin and he wont let it go, and as much as I like Olivia she's such a yes-man its unwatchable.
@@kaylaranta2784 I think that’s because the show and crew in general have a “believe all women” stance
Ethan likes to use the term "bad faith" a lot when it comes to others, but he is showing that exact behaviour here.
@@kaylaranta2784 exactly 👍.
Lively was not supposed to talk AT ALL during that scene. Baldoni even had a producer in his ear (mic) telling him to remind her *not to talk* becase she wasn't following direction *or the script.* Baldoni is the director, and Baldoni worked out this scene with intimacy coordinator BEFOREHAND. You're supposed to go through all intimate scenes *beforehand* so that scenes go smoothly and everyone knows what they are supposed to do. You don't just figure these things out on a whim. It's like saying "we have a choreographed dance but we'll figure it out on set..." No... Lively went against his direction, against the scene, and proceeded to tell him consistently that they should talk because she thinks it shows them falling in love more than not talking. She isn't the director! She didn't work the scene out with him and the intimacy coordinator beforehand life she should have. She has no clue what the scene should be or portray. Baldoni was trying to gently shut her up. She did what she wanted. She couldn't stand to be silent because she can't be present. Beyond that, she can't follow direction. Which is ridiculous, as an actor's main job is following direction. She should be able to do that at the drop of a hat (or clapper), and she clearly can't...at least without hijacking the whole damn film.
So if he told her to strip naked she would have to because she’s an actor and he’s the director? What kind of nonsense is this.
@@NS-sx4dq That’s to the other extreme don’t you think? What this person was trying to say, is that she should’ve taken the direction given to her by her boss. Like with any job, you listen to your boss, within reason, like… regarding work. If they make you uncomfortable, that’s what HR is for. But simply asking the ACTRESS who is getting paid to LISTEN to direction by the DIRECTOR, isn’t too much to ask. She just wanted unlimited control, and knew she had the power to play Justin.
@@NS-sx4dq Did he ask her to strip naked though or are you bringing up a false equivalence?
@@NS-sx4dq The scene was supposed to be no sound, said by Lively herself. If she read the book and had met with the intimacy coordinator to work out these intimate scenes beforehand, they could've figured out how to portray these two characters *falling in love* in a way both actors are comfortable with.
Also, Blake was saying here that she thinks showing them talking shows them falling in love better. She wanted to rewrite his scene because she thought she knew better. Everyone on set knew this scene did not have talking.
Let's not pretend XQC is suddenly a smart and kind individual just because he knows the holocaust happened. He shouldn't get that much credit for the bare minimum 😂
The bar lowers every day
Yeah that was an unnecessary glaze
I wash my hands _EVERY_ time I use the bathroom, where's my Nobel Peace Prize?
Its not just that they met him at an event and ig they had a good time with xqc
The bar is in HELL
In the dancing scene I feel both are acting and trying to direct at the same time. She wants to talk. He doesn’t because it’s a slow motion scene. She insists. When he mention she and Ryan talk a lot I think it’s to then say that he and his wife can just look at each other. To justify why he wants them to not talk. But Blake just carried on and doesn’t let him finish his point. When the say cut you can clearly see him go out of character.
Whether or not the scene made Blake uncomfortable when filming is not really the point at this time. She misrepresented what happened in the dancing scene to make him sound creepy. She intentionally left out the context of the conversation that they were having together, while laughing. They’re playing romantic interests. The scene is meant to look intimate. I hope to see more evidence specifically pertaining to communication with the intimacy coordinator. I just have a hard time blindly siding with Blake because she was not entirely honest about one of her main examples that he was being creepy. We’ll see what happens I guess.
I feel like you guys are agreeing so much with Blake like give Baldoni a chance. I feel like the crew has to agree with Ethan or they are done. It’s okay if y’all don’t agree with him.
Why are you all riding so hard for Blake ? Where was the harassment she lied to get Final Cut of the film
it's not clear until we see the full case which is a fair take
Please don’t use Emily D. Baker as a neutral voice in saga between Blake/Ryan v. Justin. Ryan Reynolds follows Emily on Instagram and vice versa. Many social media users are sponsored by Ryan (via Mint Mobile) and hence they give a biased coverage supporting Ryan and Blake. There was one TH-camr Andy and he actually worked with Ryan in the past. Ryan initially followed Andy on instagram but Andy has been pretty honest on his coverage about Blake and petty Ryan Reynolds unfollowed Andy. Sounds like we’re back in middle school except Ryan is almost 50 years old 😂
The Baldini/Lively section was almost unbearable to watch with Ethan commentating. He has decided Baldoni is in the wrong and wants to be right, so he’s bending over backwards to make sure that’s the case.
I don’t know if it’s because Dan was missing, but Ethan was skipping over major things and mischaracterizing so much.
Two examples:
- the vid of them slow dancing, right before Baldoni does the neck/almost kiss thing, they say at the beginning “okay I’m going to come in like I’m going to kiss you” and she’s like “yeah okay” but Ethab kept saying “that was weird he did that without them talking, she clearly wasn’t okay with it”
- second, and this is a minor point, but on the list of 17 demands, they say not to hire someone with close personal connections, just actors, and Ethan kept saying that was sort of weird he hired his actor friend- but it’s totally fine the Lively hired her sister?? That seems like a close personal connection to me?
Blake was playing the “yes for me but not for thee” came throughout the production and that’s so obvious, but no one wants to disagree with Ethan so he’s just stomping through making no sense. We need Dan back. Olivia and the rest of the crew did a good job putting this together, but I almost skipped this section because Ethan was infuriating.
Also- I don’t care much about this case or have even really been following it, but it’s just so obvious that Ethan feels he HAS to be right so therefore Baldoni has lost in his mind and he can see nothing else.
What’s the point of going through these PowerPoints if you already have a set opinion & are close minded? Not calling baldoni a saint here but they are constantly scrutinizing him when if presented accurately, Blake is the one in the wrong here. Lying & manipulative.
nah it's not clear, we need the full case, the witnesses etc
@@Vegangg I think we can’t make a final opinion on the case as a whole, but the situations that HAVE been shown are clearly disproving a lot of the claims Blake has made. It’s proving she is lying, misconstruing, and exaggerating a lot of situations. They seem unable to at least acknowledge that the evidence SO FAR doesn’t look great for her
@@Vegangg full case like a video disproving Lively's claims and texts with full context showing she edited hers mayhaps?
OMGGG them seeing Justin’s point of view then Ethan going “UNLESS…” and everyone flipping back to agree with him/blake was making me nuts! It’s not “weird” or “embarrassing” that Blake brought THE MOST FAMOUS PERSON IN THE WORLD into her apartment at the end of a meeting, and her super mega powerful/famous husband in to literally excerpt pressure on to this dude to rewrite a scene. SHE DIDN’T READ THE BOOK. She already messed up all the fashion. I wouldn’t want her writing it either! And it sounds like ANYTHING he didn’t agree with she would threaten to leave. This isn’t weird and embarrassing it’s downright intimidation, coercion, bullying, manipulation. So whenever I see stuff like that, it makes me not want to believe the other stuff she’s saying. Just the way she’s speaking to him while he’s trying to direct. The way that we’ve seen her speak to so many people. She’s awful. She’s also a hypocrite in the highest order. She is allowed to do whatever she wants and the second that he doesn’t do something that she wants or says something, that, in my opinion, (I don’t care if I get hate for this), he probably thought he was totally allowed to say because of her previous words and texts. If she’s saying she looks sexy he probably thought that was OK to say. I mean we literally hear that she said “I’ve never even seen porn.” She brought up the porn in the first place, then said that…. HOW IS IT OKAY FOR HER AND NOT FOR HIM to compliment her on that and give a brief sentence about how he’s struggled with it? LIKE WHAT?!?I feel like y’all are breaking down every single hand movement he ever does to make it seem wrong. And Not doing the same with her. You can tell Olivia has a big opinion on this, but when Ethan doesn’t agree, she’s like “nope nope you’re right.” It’s making me nuts. Thank goodness AB and Lena are there and watched all the stuff before so they can argue it. Gahhhhhhh
This is how these talentless, unlikable, forgettable characters make it in showbiz.
He literally has it out for Justin for some reason. Idk why they’re going so hard for Blake even going so far to say well maybe she was trying to say this. It’s so annoying
@@laurenmelaniexo SO ANNOYING. And omg Love at the end? “Well…. Even if she did do something wrong it’s nothing compared to him…. She was just annoying but he did this and this and this.” JUST ANNOYING? She came in and threatened him over and over and over and used her power and powerful family and friends to try to steal his movie/direct/take over everything and if he didn’t do exactly what she wanted she’d threaten to leave and mess the whole movie up. It’s INSANE. Who wants to be around a person where you have to walk on egg shells and don’t know when they’re gonna be offended about something you said even though THEY have said it before. Someone who constantly corrects you, tries to tell you how to do your job… take over everything… also, she says in that list he can’t have any friends in HIS movie? But her sister was in it? How could none of them catch that?!? Dude… I get it was a personal scene but wtf… actors and directors have friends who are actors. How can she POSSIBLY give that stipulation? How could he watch that power point and say “well…. I still think Justin did more wrong than her.” Whaaaat? Did we watch the same thing? . She sounds insufferable to be around. Oh and Ethan going “oh that doesn’t matter if it was before the filming.” What?!? It literally disproved her lie 🤦🏼♀️ ugh sorry that was so long.
Ngl, Blake triangulating her husband & LITERAL Taylor Swift in to pressure him into using her version of the scene (and then doubling down after he allowed it with the khaleesi BS) feels way more manipulative/coercive/abusive of power than anything else we’ve seen so far from JB. It’s straight up bullying and says a LOT about their dynamic.
I absolutely hate their take on this.
Olivia pls consider doing a power point on Ryan Reynolds?! I believe if ppl saw who this man truly is, how he makes his moves, they would see this entire situation from a different view.
How does he make his movies?
LadyJaneQns knows EXACTLY who Ryan Reynolds really is, they have seen all his movies and follow him (and Blake) on socials!
Teaaa i need a deep dive. Makes sense hes married to lively
This would be great
How have we had multiple Baldoni/Lively podcasts but the thing about Blake refusing an intimacy coordinator is completely new to Olivia and everyone else? What??
Because they did talk about it and that’s not what actually happened. She did not “refuse” one. She said something along the lines of I’m fine with meeting her when we start filming. That is not refusing one… she is saying she’ll wait until they start filming to meet with her which is understandable. Tf?
@@howdypartnai remember in one of the other videos someone said she refused the coordinator. The conversation came up because she said afterwards they didn't have one, and Justin countered that she didn't want one or wouldn't make time to meet with one. Either way, I'm understanding was that there was no IC on set. To me, that's a shortingcoming in the executives' part, including the director, because there should be an IC if there are intimate scenes, period. It shouldn't be a question left to the actors if they want one or not ?
Ethan and the crew are stretching on the “weird” comments and touches from JB to Blake. They were slow dancing and very obviously being intimate. Blake was not shy at all to speak up about anything she wanted in that movie so why would she have an issue with telling him she felt uncomfortable if she was changing scenes, wardrobe, dialogue etc already. At least to me it seems pretty obvious she got annoyed when she wasn’t getting her way in everything and decided to ice out Baldoni and start to take over the movie which she did because everyone who watched it watches Blakes Edit! Ethan’s open mind turned out to be extremely biased to Blakes side.
Recommend anyone who likes to keep up with this Justin/Blake drama to watch the Do We Know Them podcast. Loved their takes and coverage on it.
lol much worse has been said on the show, Yoav Gallant is a great guy
Y’all kept saying the footage was “confusing”… it’s not confusing! You all are just conflicted from making a snap judgement too quickly and now there is evidence refuting her false claims! My god the way you all ride for Blake so hard is gross. It’s disappointing.
Yeah.. it's getting annoying. Love Olivia, but she didn't explain what Blake claimed in her lawsuit before they watched the video. They even asked, "What did she claim happened?" and she went into what happened in the video, not what was said in the suit.
Same with last ep when they mentioned the intimacy coordinator - they said "she just didn't want to meet with them before filming!" But the point was that Blake said there was NO intimacy coordinator while filming.
I honestly think he's a probably a real weird dude, and that she is also terrible to work with.
Honestly! Also they're missing to me one of the biggest point, is that how a man that's literally owning the movie and depends on the movie to do good would literally sex harassed his main and powerful actress in front of cameras recording? I always stand for victims, but the more this lawsuit goes the more you see how much she twisted stuff. Also excuse me, is the man not allowed to act anymore like he's falling in love with her? That's literally Ryle in the book being obsessed with Lilly... 🤷🏼♀️
They needed dan
AB is fighting so hard here to call out Ethan’s bias. 😂😂 I get that Baldoni is cringe AF but come on. Blake is full of sh*t.
I think Olivia missed a lot of the details and evidence that contradicts Blake’s complaint.
And on that raw footage, that scene is not just about slow dancing. It’s the scene where they “fall in love”.
Olivia is not explaining things properly imo.
Still entertaining but a lot was left out that is making Blake just look like a straight up liar or mentally disturbed because her reality is very different than what the actual evidence is telling lol
I think Olivia is abit scared to say too much because they shut her down. They really want to hate him 😅 but I agree with you
@@Be149xolol yes they really do, and who knows maybe Blake’s side has more that they’re just not putting out yet then it’ll change everything lol
I have to be honest, Olivia has seriously let me down with the goss talks. Every time she presents, I can think of multiple important bits of info from the gossip that she leaves out (consciously or not). I get it that no one is perfect, but when it’s literally her job to relay information about this stuff and then she leaves out important info that causes Ethan and the crew to have misinformed opinions, it bothers me. She’s way too susceptible to TikTok brain lol and lacks critical thinking of any kind oops sorry not sorry
@@sim1win128u said everything perfectly and it’s always been like this i’ve commented on previous episodes about olivia leaving out so much information and jumping all over the timeline. its hard for people who don’t already know the lore of the topic to follow along. but again tiktok brain they just assume people already know.
And may I call out Ethan on his bs. He literally watched a video where the guy proposed to his gf and was admittedly self absorbed which is not a crime. A bit unlikeable ? Surely. but those videos where he acts corny cannot define how he acts in other situations. Just like Ethan probably wouldn’t find it logical to define his character based on that chestnut clip . Both can be true : he can be self absorbed and trying to appear this self proclaimed feminist can come off unlikeable to some ( Myself included) so as Blake twisting the truth to gain sympathy that she lost due to her own actions . The scene that was shot was supposed to be in slow motion and he clearly stated that to her while she was insisting on talking . Talking during a slow motion scene would be ludicrous. So her completely changing that scene that was scripted as literally “silent scene : dancing romantically “ into a long process that Justin probably didn’t even intend to use in post as it was already scripted in a whole other way, only prolonged that shooting she found so uncomfortable. And also I found watching that scene uncomfortable too, letting a stranger touch you romantically seems so creepy to me , I guess that’s why I’m not an actor but SHE IS and how both actors can portray love and intimacy without touching or kissing and showing affection , that was clearly in the script . He did insist on hiring an intimacy coordinator to choreograph those intimate scenes , and she was the one who was like “yeah im good “ , and suddenly when her career went to shit because of her actions , she’s suddenly critical of his every word and movement he made while filming
Getting mint mobile ads with ryan reynolds during the power point is so funny
I think if Olivia presented Justin’s lawsuit BEFORE showing the raw footage, I think it would have given way more context for Justin, for example her constant need to take control. I also think that you guys brushed off the manipulated texts from Blake’s team. Thats something that goes to really hurting Blake’s credibility.
And the other hosts doing their research as well. I mean I get we want to support victims, but things need to be presented accurately and thoroughly when we are talking about allegations that can ruin people's lives but alas 🤷♀️
Yeah. She's not very good at organizing it.
A lot of people are siding with Blake because they're going into Justin's lawsuit assuming everything she's saying is 100% true when there's unfortunately not much physical evidence to back it up. To understand the context they need to go into it with a clear mind. It's her burden to prove SH happened not the other way around. That's like you complaining a package wasn't delivered and they ask for proof.
Are you a Justin fan?
They ride for Blake harrrd. I can't stand her. Lol
I feel like Olivia will never be able to cover this case in its entirety. There are too many things legally that need to be broken down within the lawsuits that play apart in why Blake is so wrong and why she looks so bad. Plus Ethan and Hila being so dismissive towards Justin and his feelings about the movie was so hard to watch the last powerpoints. Their mind is made up about him and it’s not going to change, enough with the powerpoints on this.
exactly 😭it comes off weird and not serious when they come in with a bias at hand
its okay if you dont like the guy, but at least report on the stuff
when justin said or did something weird, they go off on bro
blake acts weird and racist and controlling and suddenly is a 10 second part of the segment they brush thru
i just dont get why they are trying so hard to defend her
i love women and i do believe hollywood is super unfair to them in sets, and men do get away with horrible stuff
but justin is just a corn ball, he isnt a monster like they are trying so hard to convey
ofc if more info comes out, i wont see him this way, but its just hard to take her seriously when she is being like this
her manipulation, lies, weird behavior goes unnoticed but they over analyze everything he does
im even a huge ryan reynolds fan and i feel both are wrong here lol
The bias is so frustrating tbh
YES
"His hands are pretty low." So what? They're in love in the movie.. they're wanting each other.. like they're ACTORS so wtf are we debating here. The "have you ever seen a movie" comment is all you need to hear from this segmant.
The most incriminating thing about that scene is seeing how Blake's interpretation of his behavior does not match the proof and her inability to follow directions and shut the f up. They weren't even supposed to improvise, but she insisted on it. You can't negate the fact that she felt uncomfortable you also can't negate that she also made him feel uncomfortable by refusing to follow his directions. If all feelings are valid then all feelings are valid.
Mb she shouldn’t act in romantic movies that require acting romantic and intimate scenes with her partner, if she feels uncomfortable doing so? Imagine every other actress filing a suit against their male partners for literally acting. She didn’t lie in her lawsuit yet twisted the truth tremendously and we got a proof of that on numerous occasions . If there wasn’t anything to validate Justin’s narrative , we would blindly believe her but we do have evidence of her twisting the truth and it’s just harmful to take her side for the sake of not accepting that the guy who is a bit corny and self absorbed (she is also those two things, need i remind you)is telling the truth and backing it up with evidence, whereas her statements ( for the time being) are just her perceptions of the truth. I think that this lawsuit was initially meant to take away attention from the media painting her as a mean girl , and it clearly works as we don’t talk about it anymore but her statements although can be proven true twist the truth in a major way
Justin is definitely a weirdo and cringe af but its soo clear Blake is more in the
wrong here, the way she maliciously misrepresents so many things in the lawsuit to make situations seem worse then they actually were. Not sure why they nit picked all of Justin's arguments while giving Blake so much grace when it's literally been proven that she lied about so much shit. She should be persecuted for that khalessi
text alone Imao
THANK YOU! I couldn’t agree MORE!
HAHAHA you just made me screech like a damn dragon with that
The second he yells “Cut,” Justin is completely nonchalant toward Blake in behavior and mannerisms. Any IRL “discomfort” Blake felt was due to Justin not immediately accepting the notes she had on the scene (…bc she was hired to act and act ONLY). The “I’m Khaleesi” threat alone - THIS woman (and her husband) wouldn’t confront Justin directly if she felt even slightly sexually harassed?!
If you are not healed from your own trauma due to harassment, I’ve been there, i send you the deepest love, and I ask that you don’t project YOUR valid and genuine emotions onto Blake. I find nothing more ruinous to the cause of actual victims than a bully pretending to be one… all bc her Hollywood clout was ruined.
P.S. It’s obvious now Blake has been using Taylor all these years. I’d be furious at Blake - my so-called BFF - calling me her dragon aka “her minion” behind my back.
@@Lillian.Gao. 100%
@ 💜
@@Lillian.Gao. why can’t people accept her and Ballsonya are prob both awful people 😂 way overthinking it
@ bc that’s equally insulting to someone who, by all EVIDENCE so far, has done nothing wrong. A win for Justin is setting a cultural precedent against future false accusations, especially from obscenely powerful ppl like Lively… who is punching down bc she can.
Justin is the indisputable underdog here - and I like seeing underdogs who have been wronged win
Because theyre not just accusing each other of being awful, they're making very specific allegations.
Baldonis accusing blake of lying and taking over his project (and he has ample reciepts) blake is alledging that baldoni was a creep who harassed her (and she has zero receipts) @oby888
I’m pretty disappointed with this take. The moment when you started to change your minds and side more with Blake, it was based on the assumption that Justin kissed her neck when it was not previously discussed. However, we don’t have ANY information this was not discussed previously. It’s illogical and unfair to draw any final conclusions based on assumed evidence.
Also, I’m very confused how people keep interpreting Blake’s request to talk during the scene as her trying to push Justin away because she felt uncomfortable and wanted to have a discussion about the scene or shift to talking because she felt harassed and needed space. Perhaps she felt uncomfortable, but there’s no concrete evidence of that. Within the context of the clip, she’s talking about how she and Ryan talk all the time, which is how they connect as romantic partners. Justin replies that he and his wife often just stare into each other’s eyes, which is how they connect romantically. Within the context of the conversation, it’s more likely that they’re speaking about how two romantic partners connect with each other. Blake initiates the conversation and keeps talking. Justin appears to want to remain quiet and just capture physical moments of closeness. It sounds like they’re speaking about how their characters should be interacting in the moment and differing on how to execute that. Blake comes across as a very direct person who isn’t afraid of confrontation. The weirdest part of this entire story is that she claims she was too scared to speak out and that Justin was able to harass her in front of a bunch of people on set. Why didn’t she claim he harassed her when they were alone together at her penthouse? Wouldn’t that have been a more likely location to put in appropriate moves on someone rather than in front of multiple witnesses, which is the case for the majority of her claims? She’s already been caught lying. How do we believe anything she says at this point unless we have incontrovertible evidence, which she has yet to furnish? If she has that, we’d all love to see it.
This! Plus he is explaining that it was going be in slow motion! Talking would look silly!!!
@ Exactly. It would be odd to be standing there with your mouth open in mid-sentence, which is exactly how the moment would have looked in few-second slo-mo clip.
Why do you guys have such an extreme bias in favour of Blake? From day 1 her compliant to the NYT was shady because it lacked crucial context. Now all the receipts are out and it's undeniable that she's trying to ruin his reputation. She called herself Khaleesi dude🤦♀Not to mention, her previous interviews and drama with ex-cast members proves her character as someone who is awful to work with and egotistical. Do you know Blake personally? Because that is literal only reason that you would be so insanely on her side when she has been proven wrong with receipts.
Ethan's cognitive dissonance with Baldoni goes hard. He decided early on that Justin was guilty and now he can't reconcile the evidence to his preconceptions. I'm waiting for all the evidence to come out but I haven't loved how this topic's been handled here. I don't think Olivia's been doing a good job presenting the info either but I understand a lot has come out in quick succession and it's been hard to keep up with. Tbh I think you should just let this topic die because every time you cover it you come out looking sillier.
Bad take - Olivia is doing great and presenting just fine - she read the damn suit for Christ sake - you are only right abt the Ethan take
@madispy5087 disagree
@@madispy5087 She missed a lot of important topics and is a total yes-man to Ethan, everytime she says something in Justin's favor and Ethan tries to counter it, she's like yeah you're right, which is disappointing tbh.
@madispy5087 I said this in another comment + i like Olivia, but she didn't explain what Blake claimed in her lawsuit before they watched the video. They even asked, "What did she claim happened?" and she went into what happened in the video, not what was said in the suit.
Same with last ep when they mentioned the intimacy coordinator - they said "she just didn't want to meet with them before filming!" But the point was that Blake said there was NO intimacy coordinator while filming.
I honestly think he's a probably a real weird dude, and that she is also terrible to work with. But I could tell you more detail (in order) from watching a couple 15 min spill sesh videos.
When he leaned in and said the spray tan smelled good you can’t see that he actually kissed her. That shot was really dark and lots of ppl are not actually kissing in movies but the camera angles make it look like they are. He could have easily just leaned in close and didn’t actually make contact with his lips.
Also in her lawsuit she talks about how he wasn’t in character and no talking was needed. SHE was the one who wouldn’t shut up! He didn’t want there to be talking and she kept insisting on it. There was no scripted dialogue for them to use to stay in character with.
thank you!! she was directing, saying they should talk because her and ryan never shut up because that’s what she thinks is romantic, and when JB says he thinks staring into each others eyes is romantic, she calls him a psychopath!!
The whole thing was weird because she acted like he went off script... But both of them were off script the whole damn time 😭 how do you expect him to be on script when you guys are both improvising and intimate scene??????
@@nyxhemera6681 exactly! When Olivia said they were not following the dialogue it's simply because they didn't have anything written because it was supposed to be a silent scene 🤷🏼♀️ is Blake actually telling us she can't just act?? She was clearly the one that kept talking and if she stopped and done her job without trying to direct everything then the scene would have been faster to record.. She could have said cut at any time too
Honestly it just looks like he laughed into her shoulder/Crook of her neck.
I didn't see a kiss and nobody else did either. That's the truth of that matter.
Wow you can just hear how much quieter this episode is without Daniel
Ethan is so weirdly judgemental. I mean sure jokes, but making fun of him for crying, saying how one person can say they never watched something and the other saying they had addiction problem (imo it was only because the adult stuff, if the topic was alcohol or drugs, it wouldn't be even discussed as something so weird).
the baldoni guy is weird, i don't really like his performative positive image, but on the same time, Ethan gives so many strays for members and listeners, especially men.... like men shouldn't open up they had bad addictions they overcame? they shouldn't have strong emotions when somebody supports their work? huh?
gives off the weird vibe from ethan ngl
Projecting some insecurities maybe? I don’t like the narrative that men can’t be kind humans too. 🫤
I think it was very vulnerable for Baldoni to admit that he used to have a porn addiction. Blake was talking about how she didn’t like porn and he was talking about how he overcame the struggles with that. If he used to have a porn addiction, then it’s not like he’s actively still watching it. They make it sound like he’s just some creep, when in reality, the majority of men these days all have an active porn addiction, and they just don’t realize a lot of men will be in denial about that. It’s actually quite common but men don’t admit it. and I know I will face criticism for saying that, but it’s true.
I couldn't watch this episode. i felt like i was going crazy seeing olivia, ethan, and ab having the most insane takes on certain respective subjects.. LIKE IDEK WHO IM WATCHING ANYMORE???
The pod has been rubbing me the wrong way lately. Ethans need to be right has him spiraling and its hard to watch.
I swear! If this is his opinion on this big obvious case . PLEASE KEEP this big project you’ve been working on in the chamber
He’s pitiful. And the constant coughing and sickly nature of Ethan in this is the cherry on top.
The lawsuit segment was really odd... it didnt feel like a fair assessment of the situation. If the lawsuit does end up ending in justins favor yall would have contributed to the narrative of him being a predator, which wouldnt be bad if any of the evidence was valid. Blakes "evidence" is continuously disproved but yall seem to brush it off or make excuses for it. In the footage she stated she wanted to talk because the script instructed them to stay silent. She was going off script. Justin refers to her and ryan talking because blake said she thought that was romantic. Justin then mentions his wife and the fact that they like to have a silent moment while they dance because he drew inspiration from his own life experiences. Yes justin can be cringe but i feel like hes just giving the adult theater kid vibe. I remember the theater kids in highschool always being so extra but that was their vibe which is fine. it was their gig and who am i to judge. i dont think thats indicative of him being a predator. The whole coverage of this situation has made me feel a little icky. Love the h3 crew but if all this does come out to be a bunch of lies on blakes part i hope they can at least try to clear the the name of justin considering that im sure they have contributed to convincing many people that watch the show that hes a predator...the whole situation is is giving johnny depp v. amber heard...
@@NovaCattt idk I don’t know the guys I’m just here for the LOLs
i know the jury can just lie when they say they dont know anything about the drama but its still on them, not a random podcast, if they are swayed by sources they never should've listened to. are you serious? are we now watching podcasts to make an executive decision on whether someone's guilty? if this isnt time to touch grass
@@spookeymo obviously I’m not saying the podcast is going to determine a court case but they can sway public opinion. If Justin doesn’t turn out to be a creep I think it’s kinda messed up that a podcast that gets thousands of views is calling him a predator… is that not wrong? I’m saying this as a fan of the show.
I can't believe they didn't have any inauguration talk or elon's salute.
Why? Do you think it wasn't covered elsewhere? Is it funny?
So why should they?
Do you think the Blake drama hasn't been covered elsewhere or is it funny? lol
@@binmcbin1890because it’s important in what’s going on. It’s a current event.. is this podcast always humorous?
@@autumnsnow8467I think they’re staying away from politics right now.
@@binmcbin1890do they only do comedy?
Sorry but calling this sexual harassment and suing someone over these vague words and situations that could be interpreted completely differently by a different person is wild. She said bring me the suppositories or something like that in that text, Justin could easily say that that is her using inappropriate language and he feels sexual harassed by her( I´m sure she would call it pornographic if he was the one saying that)...same thing. If he wanted to be as ridiculous as her he could even say something like that when she referred to herself as sexy in front of him , it made him feel uncomfortable and sexually harassed because it felt like she was hitting on him.
i don’t think covering this lawsuit is a good idea anymore, Olivia lacks to present properly on the suits and is easily siding with Ethan’s weird ass takes to continue to be Team Blake. idk it’s all so weird and gathering some of her info from Emily Baker isnt a smart idea considering Ryan R follows her, she holds a biased opinion.
This was super frustrating to watch. At this point, I just want to see what the other actors/crew have to say about their experiences with Baldoni. As it stands right now, I don't know how much Lively can be trusted. I disagree with you guys about the dancing scene - I don't think Lively felt very uncomfortable in the moment, and she was participating in the nuzzling/talking just as much as Baldoni. And IMO her description in the complaint is basically just a lie, not simply a misinterpretation. So I don't know how much we can trust any of her other claims. But if several other people come out and say that Baldoni sexually harassed them in some way (and aren't just lying like Lively seems to be), then I'll happily be on Lively's side.
It definitely seems like Baldoni is a narcissistic weirdo who plays up his feminism for attention from women, but I also believe that Lively probably took over the set like Baldoni says, and potentially could be lying about basically everything in order to take control of the sequel (if there even is a sequel after this), and in order to sweep her other negative stuff under the rug. Keep in mind that Baldoni's people didn't actually run a smear campaign against Lively (though they were about to do that in response to what her team might do), but it seems like Lively's people *were* doing some sort of campaign against Baldoni, or were at least ready to start one just like his people were. She got all that negative attention leading up to (and upon release of) the movie, so she likely wanted the attention drawn away from her.
The one thing that I think gives some good support for Lively is the initial 17-point list she made, because that makes it seem like she was feeling uncomfortable earlier on (not sure how early though - I haven't followed closely enough), though even that list could potentially either be a bunch of lies or purposeful misinterpretations, but I don't know what her reasoning would've been at that point. Did she somehow figure that that would allow her to start taking over the movie, or something? That wouldn't really make sense (unless she's just incredibly conniving), so I think it's likely that the 17-point list was legit, or at least, these were legit issues she had. Not sure...
Analysing that clip, Ethan was going in with so many preconceptions. Bringing up their spouses Justin is basically explaining their differences in perceptions of what is romantic, yapping all the time for her vs. being silent and staring for him, and in the almost kissing scene she's not saying "let's just talk", she's saying "it should start with us talking", so she's just trying to direct the scene. You're trying to twist it so much.
Said the person going in with a preconception of Blake Lively. the hypocrisy in these comments is disgusting
@@SnakeMCGaminggirl I don't know Blake from Justin. I just listened to the dialogue.
@ It's a big he said she said, the evidence honestly doesn't support either one of these people either way, even though they seem to think it is, which is why a court of law needs to see the case and determine all of their facts. But i operate under "believe all victims" until irrefutable evidence is released that shows they are lying, I've yet to see that evidence, so I'm not going to let my distaste for Blake Lively as a person have me color her accusations and assume she's lying, like FAR too many people in this comment section are doing.
Victim of SA misremember things ALL THE TIME, that doesn't mean they aren't telling the truth
@@SnakeMCGaming I'm literally not saying anything about the bigger he said she said situation. Ethan was saying she said "let's just talk" when she didn't say the "just", that would completely change the meaning. All I am saying is, in regards to the clip just listen to what they are actually saying without trying to twist it.
Shouts out to AB for pushing back against Ethan.
Blake shouldnt be an actress in a love film if she doesnt want romantic scenes. Also she didnt even read the f-king book. That dancing scene is IN THE BOOK.
WANNA KNOW WHAT PISSES ME OFF.. THIS SCENE IS IN THE MOVIE A MOVIE SHE STOLE AND EDITED IF IT WAS SO UNCOMFORTABLE WHY DID YOU USE THE FOOTAGE?!?! RETRAMATIZING YOURSELF EVERYTIME ITS SHOWN?!
They have 30 seconds to show us them falling in love before pretty much getting engaged. She didnt push him away. He HANDS ARE CONSTANTLY ON HIM. ON HIS chest, on his face around his neck. Biting her lip, giggling. SHE THOUGHT THIS SCENE had no audio and thought thos was her ticket. It back fired. Also.. lastly if you feel like you were legit being creepy or has ill will... WOULD YOU SHOW THE WORLD. He literally breaks charcter when he says cut. This whole thing is so f-ked.
I'm over the gos talk section. Ethan steam rolls over important info with these terribly biased comments and Olivia doesn't go back to reiterate their importance.
For example, at 2:41:50 Justin clearly tells Blake he wants her to direct this part to make her more comfortable. They rewatch the scene 3 times, talk over it and only focus on hand placement. They literally never mention Justin's commentary. Its poor reporting and very frustrating.
The size of Ethan's ego wouldn't allow him to say that he was wrong about Baldoni. There is direct evidence against Blake and he is still yapping about how much he hates Baldoni.
Dan not being here is giving crew only episode vibes but the sad version
😂 omg