Imagine a remastered with high end graphics but same gamedata. Maybe just a few improvements in combat and ai, but all of the insane plot, Storytelling and voiceactors.... This would be a dream coming true
Ooh let me try SF1, The Order of Dawn! speedrun description 1. You watch the fanastic cutscene, then realize that the number of epic battles between Human and Orc armies is sadly lacking. 2. You play the prologue your first time. Then you try to never play it agai. 3. You get to play your actual character! Good luck finding the OP playstyles 4. As you travel you realize there is a second omega mage! You need to warn the good omega mage. 5. The pursuit of the good mage. Along the way you rescue various peoples from their troubls, murder a spider man murderer, farm orcs and goblins, and run into the first blades. 6. You find the omega mage, but the evil omega mage kills him. 7. Now to find mask shards for a dead omega mage (who isn't dead because he's a necromancer). 8. You want to get the undead? This is how you get the undead. 8.1 Time for the Dwarves. Discover vanilla Windholme is underwhelming. Cry. 8.2 Get the punk ass guy to man up and fight the power 9. Seriously, so may Undead. 10. You get the mask shards and give them to the dead omega mage; he tells you where to find the Omega-Ultra Magic Stone. In Mulandir... 11. Time for the Godwall, aka Towerwall. there's a mage ass present, and he has WOLVES...actually just mercenary humans. Also you discover the Red Legion, they're pretty cool. 12. Mulandir time. Good luck with the gargoyles and medusae. 13. Eventually get through the bs, and discover your path blocked by a mysterious 'Guardian.' 14. The guardian tells you to fetch shards. Did you remember the teleport stone near him? You better. 15. Escape Mulandir, into either the warzone level or the demon hell level. 16. Get the shards 17. Get punked by the mage ass. 18. Murder mage ass for wasting your time. You do murder him right? 19. Discover that the Order of Layabouts has gone off and gotten themselves killed rather than wait for you to help them. 20. Meet Craig Un'Shallach, the resident Drizzt expy. But still pretty cool. 21. Ice magic hell. 22. Tower defense. Or just skip what you're meant to do. 23. Fight through the Blades. Get punked by Evil Omega Mage again. 24. Chase the Evil Omega Mage into poison and ice hell. 25. Escape poison and ice hell. 26. Befrend the Dark Elves 27. Time for cats 28. Get the dark magic buff to make you unkillable from death towers 29. Run for next level 30. Time for more cats, and slow ass tree. 31. Escape 32. The Final Battle 33. Discover the truth 34. The end?
As much as I like playing SF TOoD, I can put this video on repeat and be just happy. I only missed the part where you keep visiting and revisiting past locations searching for Amra's armour and other side quests
@@Wormic Yeah, I once adapted it into my DnD campaign and players sincerely enjoyed playing it. Only one that played SF recognized it, but had fun nonetheless.
@@nazgardthecartographer6172 Oh, so I`m not the only one who`s adapted parts of SF lore to DnD. :D Amra`s Armor questline is really easy do adapt, but Earthblade, and Soulstones would also be pretty good story arcs, imho.
@@vorpalkickass8825 they are good yeah, but Amra's armor had a greater impact on me. Especially when I found Pledge of the Gods near the Soulforger. Leaving it there without any description or quest update and letting us figure it all ourselves... That was sooo cool.
Just bought this and despite solving many of the bugs that comes with it being an old game this game sadly hasnt aged well. Thanks for summin up the story! :) I dont wanna know how many hours this saved me xd
I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! ARRRRGH!
Great recap! It’s heartwarming that you actually put more focus on your presentation than the game does in some points :D First off I do like the plot of TOoD. But the more I dig in to it, it’s more the atmosphere of this beatiful sorrow and how the world and lore is discovered that manages to suppress some shortcomings of the plot. Mostly you are a messenger and gathering information while killing armies. Getting frozen and trapped 3 times by the Dark one and killing of a major character? That’s lame and as you said unsurprising. The Hokan Ashir storyline is excellent and ties the SF1. World building and atmosphere have always been the strong points of SpellForce. I still think that the plotlines and storytelling of the franchise have managed to convey differing emotions which is quite a feat. ToOD you have this sense of hopelessness yet you march on while discovering a mysterious world. In BoW there is this sense of urgency and everything is somewhat more optimistic? I can’t dissect Shadow Wars and Dragon Storm manage to do that but there is this ”new dawn of Man”-theme. Islands are cut off but it feels that a new, better times are ahead and things are less worse than they were in SF1 era.
@@Wormic Agree with the characters. For example Darius is fantastic and I think his finale in Demons of the Past is not the worst one. It could have been made so much better though. In the first five games they managed to create that unique setting where you became very invested in you avatar RPG-wise yet it feels that your free rune warrior is just a actor in a larger play. It doesn’t matter was it a mage or warrior, female or male that liberated Shiel, the event itself matters. It feels like you don’t shape the history of Eo, you simply unfold it. Like the time loop of Rohen, it simply must happen. In Dragon Storm ending I didn’t get emotional over the fate of my character because I was attached to it, I was attached to Eo.
SPOILERS for Demons of the Past (if anyone cares) From Ereon/Darius closure I liked that he sacrificed himself for the very mortals he used to love, map out their history, spend more time with them than other Guardians. I agree that FiD and DotP have messy lore that can be safely ignored. DotP had some good elements, fleshed out the Guardians and let us explore the Realm of Gods. FiD was a short mess overall. I didn’t notice that Dragon Storm had lot of cut content and I thought starting at level 10 was a considerate decision to give the more experienced players a headstart with abilities. I’d definetely had enjoyed more DS. Considering all cover characters in franchise have appeared in-game, the woman in Dragon Storm could have been someone important. Also there really wasn’t this feel of ”dragon storm” at all, maybe that’s where the constraints hit. It still managed to pay homeage to long line fans.
Curiously enough, there are two DS promo concept art from the old website showing entire Blade cities with Shaper architecture, one as a huge Blade factory, another as Blade desert forge, and then there is DS promo screenshot showing the Shaper with his two Blade Minion bodyguards in King Ulf's Throne Room (final level).
There is something very important missing here, and that is the pre-story of the world breaking apart. That being said, the map you used here is wrong, as it still shows the complete map before the Convocation.
Wow that's was some explanation, made my head spin!! Excellent well done, Thank you! I wish the SpellForce series could be remastered for MacOS.. Its great to play the game again and battle with the various enemies of SpellForce
i stoped playing that game because i encountered a bug where my units didn't regain any mana means my heals could cast like 2 heals and then they where useless fighting the red legion with only low tier troops and without healing would have been possible by just placing arrow towers along the way but i got to impatient for that
Thanks for making this, I knew I was near the end of the game but I encountered the patch 1.61 bug of constantly spawning ice elementals on the mission before setting out to the godmark to rescue Sartarius, making the game impossible to beat without spending hours tinkering with cheat engine. Of course, after tons of hoops of getting the game to even boot up in the first place of the original version 1.54, my save was obviously incompatible. Playing the entire series in order so this helped. Consider me a new fan! Always loved Warcraft 3.
I didn't consider it a bug, I just thought the part was hard. The solution would have been to sacrifice your army to take out the spawn node, then make a new one and finish them off.
Huh, I never felt that satisfaction, I always straight up load up to spare him. Maybe it has something with the fact that he is that way because of the nature of the artwork, so it *kind of* wasn't his choice to be like this (quite funny that mentalist is beaten by a mind boggling thingy). Unlike, say this guy in Greydusk Valley fortress, who chooses himself to make a deal with the dead and sells secrets to it - that guy I have no mercy for.
@@granix843 i agree but what i dont get is why didnt he just hand you over the stone and instead made that stupid move? Like if he just gives it to you and you give him the artwork shouldnt he be content?
@@Animaster89 Well, I guess he cared little for a rune slave and was too selfish, so he wanted to get it for free and discard our avatar after their service was no longer required. Plus, being in possession of a powerful stone, you wouldn't want to just give it for free, even if you value other artifact so much more. And there's a chance (it's just a speculation) that a Dark One contacted Mechlan beforehand, given how mentalist used to serve for the Circle.
" one day somebody will summarize the horrible events of your life in minutes " (or in this case hours of gameplay) very impressive of darius , he managed to turn rohen good. p.s. check your message wall in fandom
@@Kaminkaese the way it's presented in order for the world to work is that it pretty much repeats perfectly and that means that the events after it can unfold as normal since there's no variation in it. I made a video on the topic as well that explains it a bit better
Honestly? Why was the protag of SF3 named "Tahar"? Seems so lazy next to Rohen TAHIR(who is also present in SF3, for all the extra wtf). Just ... yeah. I mean, an awesome fun game(except sometimes overly sombre tones), but that was just lazy. And that's why the only fun campaign in SF3, for me, is the Soul Harvest. It combines personal quest, saving the world, metaphysics...on a such grand scale that it's awesome. General Aerev! A Remaster of OoD would be very nice.
Imagine a remastered with high end graphics but same gamedata. Maybe just a few improvements in combat and ai, but all of the insane plot, Storytelling and voiceactors.... This would be a dream coming true
As nice as that sounds if its not the same company doing it theres a good chance you might get a wc3 reforged
Ooh let me try
SF1, The Order of Dawn! speedrun description
1. You watch the fanastic cutscene, then realize that the number of epic battles between Human and Orc armies is sadly lacking.
2. You play the prologue your first time. Then you try to never play it agai.
3. You get to play your actual character! Good luck finding the OP playstyles
4. As you travel you realize there is a second omega mage! You need to warn the good omega mage.
5. The pursuit of the good mage. Along the way you rescue various peoples from their troubls, murder a spider man murderer, farm orcs and goblins, and run into the first blades.
6. You find the omega mage, but the evil omega mage kills him.
7. Now to find mask shards for a dead omega mage (who isn't dead because he's a necromancer).
8. You want to get the undead? This is how you get the undead.
8.1 Time for the Dwarves. Discover vanilla Windholme is underwhelming. Cry.
8.2 Get the punk ass guy to man up and fight the power
9. Seriously, so may Undead.
10. You get the mask shards and give them to the dead omega mage; he tells you where to find the Omega-Ultra Magic Stone. In Mulandir...
11. Time for the Godwall, aka Towerwall. there's a mage ass present, and he has WOLVES...actually just mercenary humans. Also you discover the Red Legion, they're pretty cool.
12. Mulandir time. Good luck with the gargoyles and medusae.
13. Eventually get through the bs, and discover your path blocked by a mysterious 'Guardian.'
14. The guardian tells you to fetch shards. Did you remember the teleport stone near him? You better.
15. Escape Mulandir, into either the warzone level or the demon hell level.
16. Get the shards
17. Get punked by the mage ass.
18. Murder mage ass for wasting your time. You do murder him right?
19. Discover that the Order of Layabouts has gone off and gotten themselves killed rather than wait for you to help them.
20. Meet Craig Un'Shallach, the resident Drizzt expy. But still pretty cool.
21. Ice magic hell.
22. Tower defense. Or just skip what you're meant to do.
23. Fight through the Blades. Get punked by Evil Omega Mage again.
24. Chase the Evil Omega Mage into poison and ice hell.
25. Escape poison and ice hell.
26. Befrend the Dark Elves
27. Time for cats
28. Get the dark magic buff to make you unkillable from death towers
29. Run for next level
30. Time for more cats, and slow ass tree.
31. Escape
32. The Final Battle
33. Discover the truth
34. The end?
Haha, yes, as a kid the Human/Orc battle seem super amazing, but now it's kind of funny.
But the exchange of blows of both Mages still kicks ass!
Oh, yes. I forgot that but the duel between the Mages is Definitely the highlight.
Makes me wish the mages in game did that.
As much as I like playing SF TOoD, I can put this video on repeat and be just happy.
I only missed the part where you keep visiting and revisiting past locations searching for Amra's armour and other side quests
@@Wormic Yeah, I once adapted it into my DnD campaign and players sincerely enjoyed playing it. Only one that played SF recognized it, but had fun nonetheless.
@@nazgardthecartographer6172 Oh, so I`m not the only one who`s adapted parts of SF lore to DnD. :D
Amra`s Armor questline is really easy do adapt, but Earthblade, and Soulstones would also be pretty good story arcs, imho.
@@vorpalkickass8825 they are good yeah, but Amra's armor had a greater impact on me. Especially when I found Pledge of the Gods near the Soulforger. Leaving it there without any description or quest update and letting us figure it all ourselves... That was sooo cool.
@@nazgardthecartographer6172 Yeah. Gotta say, the twist about the Pledge not being a divine artifact was pretty neat.
Just bought this and despite solving many of the bugs that comes with it being an old game this game sadly hasnt aged well. Thanks for summin up the story! :) I dont wanna know how many hours this saved me xd
I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT AGAIN! ARRRRGH!
Been there done that. I think I play Order of Dawn every 3 to 4 years since it has released.
I had no idea channel Like that exsist. Good
Great recap! It’s heartwarming that you actually put more focus on your presentation than the game does in some points :D First off I do like the plot of TOoD. But the more I dig in to it, it’s more the atmosphere of this beatiful sorrow and how the world and lore is discovered that manages to suppress some shortcomings of the plot. Mostly you are a messenger and gathering information while killing armies. Getting frozen and trapped 3 times by the Dark one and killing of a major character? That’s lame and as you said unsurprising. The Hokan Ashir storyline is excellent and ties the SF1.
World building and atmosphere have always been the strong points of SpellForce. I still think that the plotlines and storytelling of the franchise have managed to convey differing emotions which is quite a feat. ToOD you have this sense of hopelessness yet you march on while discovering a mysterious world. In BoW there is this sense of urgency and everything is somewhat more optimistic? I can’t dissect Shadow Wars and Dragon Storm manage to do that but there is this ”new dawn of Man”-theme. Islands are cut off but it feels that a new, better times are ahead and things are less worse than they were in SF1 era.
@@Wormic Agree with the characters. For example Darius is fantastic and I think his finale in Demons of the Past is not the worst one. It could have been made so much better though.
In the first five games they managed to create that unique setting where you became very invested in you avatar RPG-wise yet it feels that your free rune warrior is just a actor in a larger play. It doesn’t matter was it a mage or warrior, female or male that liberated Shiel, the event itself matters. It feels like you don’t shape the history of Eo, you simply unfold it. Like the time loop of Rohen, it simply must happen. In Dragon Storm ending I didn’t get emotional over the fate of my character because I was attached to it, I was attached to Eo.
SPOILERS for Demons of the Past (if anyone cares)
From Ereon/Darius closure I liked that he sacrificed himself for the very mortals he used to love, map out their history, spend more time with them than other Guardians. I agree that FiD and DotP have messy lore that can be safely ignored. DotP had some good elements, fleshed out the Guardians and let us explore the Realm of Gods. FiD was a short mess overall.
I didn’t notice that Dragon Storm had lot of cut content and I thought starting at level 10 was a considerate decision to give the more experienced players a headstart with abilities. I’d definetely had enjoyed more DS. Considering all cover characters in franchise have appeared in-game, the woman in Dragon Storm could have been someone important. Also there really wasn’t this feel of ”dragon storm” at all, maybe that’s where the constraints hit. It still managed to pay homeage to long line fans.
Curiously enough, there are two DS promo concept art from the old website showing entire Blade cities with Shaper architecture, one as a huge Blade factory, another as Blade desert forge, and then there is DS promo screenshot showing the Shaper with his two Blade Minion bodyguards in King Ulf's Throne Room (final level).
There is something very important missing here, and that is the pre-story of the world breaking apart. That being said, the map you used here is wrong, as it still shows the complete map before the Convocation.
Wow that's was some explanation, made my head spin!! Excellent well done, Thank you! I wish the SpellForce series could be remastered for MacOS.. Its great to play the game again and battle with the various enemies of SpellForce
i stoped playing that game because i encountered a bug where my units didn't regain any mana
means my heals could cast like 2 heals and then they where useless
fighting the red legion with only low tier troops and without healing would have been possible by just placing arrow towers along the way but i got to impatient for that
@@Wormic i dont know anymore
i just noticed that suddenly this problem appeared i think before the mission before you get to the dwarfs
Thanks for making this, I knew I was near the end of the game but I encountered the patch 1.61 bug of constantly spawning ice elementals on the mission before setting out to the godmark to rescue Sartarius, making the game impossible to beat without spending hours tinkering with cheat engine. Of course, after tons of hoops of getting the game to even boot up in the first place of the original version 1.54, my save was obviously incompatible. Playing the entire series in order so this helped. Consider me a new fan! Always loved Warcraft 3.
I didn't consider it a bug, I just thought the part was hard. The solution would have been to sacrifice your army to take out the spawn node, then make a new one and finish them off.
I always spare Mechlan, so that by the time he realizes how useless his chase was and what it made him be, it will be too late.
Huh, I never felt that satisfaction, I always straight up load up to spare him.
Maybe it has something with the fact that he is that way because of the nature of the artwork, so it *kind of* wasn't his choice to be like this (quite funny that mentalist is beaten by a mind boggling thingy). Unlike, say this guy in Greydusk Valley fortress, who chooses himself to make a deal with the dead and sells secrets to it - that guy I have no mercy for.
@@granix843 i agree but what i dont get is why didnt he just hand you over the stone and instead made that stupid move? Like if he just gives it to you and you give him the artwork shouldnt he be content?
@@Animaster89 Well, I guess he cared little for a rune slave and was too selfish, so he wanted to get it for free and discard our avatar after their service was no longer required.
Plus, being in possession of a powerful stone, you wouldn't want to just give it for free, even if you value other artifact so much more.
And there's a chance (it's just a speculation) that a Dark One contacted Mechlan beforehand, given how mentalist used to serve for the Circle.
@@granix843 well that tips it more to the releasing him of his misery part
@@Wormic Mechlan still killed innocents for no reason. With or without that artifact, he is an evil being.
Wow, good quality narration right here.
I was in dire need of skipping Spellforce 1 playthrough as the game was crashing all too often...
" one day somebody will summarize the horrible events of your life in minutes " (or in this case hours of gameplay)
very impressive of darius , he managed to turn rohen good.
p.s. check your message wall in fandom
Very good men incredible compact and informative
Great game!
I used to spare Mechlan until I found out he gives a nice spell and extra xp
"Nothing personal pal..." ;-)
Thank you ❤️
How does rohan's never ending circle effect the rest of the world?
@@Kaminkaese the way it's presented in order for the world to work is that it pretty much repeats perfectly and that means that the events after it can unfold as normal since there's no variation in it.
I made a video on the topic as well that explains it a bit better
I know spellforce quite good, i have 1K H of gameplay îs one from my favorite games.
really glad the franchise is not so goofy anymore
Looking forward to the sf3 ones ^^
Are you still waiting? :D
@@skadess2107 i guess^^
@@Animaster89 He was never going to make it anyway imo, he doesn't like the third one then why would he do that :D
@@skadess2107 I know. Was a sarcastic comment but at the same time i also want him to do it^^
@@Animaster89 I'm kinda surprised he didn't make one for the rest of SF1 (or even SF2), but well that would take some time as well
Honestly? Why was the protag of SF3 named "Tahar"? Seems so lazy next to Rohen TAHIR(who is also present in SF3, for all the extra wtf). Just ... yeah. I mean, an awesome fun game(except sometimes overly sombre tones), but that was just lazy. And that's why the only fun campaign in SF3, for me, is the Soul Harvest. It combines personal quest, saving the world, metaphysics...on a such grand scale that it's awesome. General Aerev!
A Remaster of OoD would be very nice.
im sorry i just dont get the plot/story