@@qpN4SiRqp he's saying that in that situation of being screwed over by your trainer, some people would just give up on their dreams of being a wrestler as seeing it as not worth the hassle, where matt and jeff persevered through super unfair conditions thus not giving up on their dream
@@jordannewsom3606 because you did not iterate correctly...the way you said it ..it reads like you are defending them from an accusation..."after all that they still followed thier dreams" translates properly in text t9 convey your intended meaning ...my mistake for not putting it together the way you intended
Man, I really can't believe the Hardy Boys are not in the WWE Hall of Fame. They really brought alot of ppl to the WWE with the way they put their bodies on the line. Those TLC matches have to be some of the highest rated matches of all time. They deserve to be on the Hall of Fame.
HOF induction was offered only to Jeff. He rejected it because Matt was not included. He wants his brother to be inducted together with him as The Hardy Boyz.
Paid them $150 & charged a $100 booking fee? No wonder ppl left territories. WWE has issues but at least they paid well. Charging 2/3 of what you pay someone is highway robbery!
The stallion didn't pay them, the WWF did. They were not full-time contractors so they were paid per match (partially due to the fact that a wrester having a match was not garanteed often and paying them more while not being apart of the company was not a smart business model. What's being said here is that the Stallion is the one who had connections to WWF and would book the Hardyz for their matches as their manager, but being their manager meant he knew they were paid 150 per match and would just take 2/3 of that as payment for booking them. He was scamming them, sure, but he wasn't the one paying them directly. Hence, them calling WWF and telling them to cut out the middleman.
I must ask, why would WWF pay them only €150 before they got contracted? They still earned made revenue from their performances either way. I mean, atleast pay them more than 150, and then more when they signed a contract.
Is getting potentially hurt for life worth 150 dollars a night? I get it that people have aspirations and goals to make it in the business, and will work hard from nothing to get to somethting. But for hired wrestles to give their best for a company that's been growing on a global scale for decades, is crazy.
And not only they became one of or if not the most influential tag team figures in professional wrestling . But both Matt & Jeff became WORLD CHAMPION respectively . And truth be told , I've never heard of Italian Stallion before . Not even by a jobber status did i ever heard of his name . That's how bad the tables were turned .
@@marieorender9385 I guess he likely taught them the basics but a lot of their stuff they must have came up with in their own, other trainers didn't do that to their students so why does he deserve their money?.... plus that's a ridiculous way to think.... do you have school teachers coming to your job to take a cut of your wages for teaching you how to read and do mathematics, they almost certainly paid him fees to learn initially and I don't understand why you're defending his shady practices.
@@samuelwoods164 well if they went out of the way and helped me get that job by getting my name out there I deserve some pay back your acting like the trainer is some rich millionaire
@@marieorender9385 you're just being ridiculous now, that's not at all how the world works and you seem to be grasping at straws because you're unwilling to just accept you hadn't thought through your previous reply and can't accept you were wrong, I looked him up and what he was doing was clearly bad enough for WWF/E to stop working with him altogether because of that so it clearly isn't normal practice, regardless of how much money he had.... if he was good at his job and had successful students he could have leveraged his position to get more students, charged more money for lessons and possibly been brought on by big companies in a backstage capacity but he didn't do that he stole money for their pockets and as a result burned a lot of bridges, your reasoning doesn't make sense at all.
Jeff and Matt are my men. They really worked hard for it. Jeff has sacrificed his body to entertain us. He’s the real man and no one else could do what he has done! ❤️
And now, I would happily buy a 150$ ticket just to watch Hardy boys in the arena... Damn, they steal the show... Jeff is my all time favorite star after RVD...
Happened with Super Crazy too. What's worse tho is Super Crazy was actually signed (I think) and yet still didn't get paid much more then the Hardy's got from Stallion back then.
I actually went to high school with Jeff and Matt Union Pines high school We all grew up in the same city those brothers had a big ass wrestling ring in the yard when they were teenagers
Literally 2 weeks before their first WWE debut, they wrestled in the Henderson, NC Armory. Met them upstairs after seeing them grapple. They weren't even The Closer that night! DOWN TO EARTH and Good Guys! The Armory is now gone but the Hardy Boys out of Lee County remain! 😃✌️🤟
Can you imagine putting your body through hell, for 50 dollars a match? These dudes, especially Jeff, have been risk takers in the ring for years. The fact they're still wrestling today, shows the love they have for the business.
Exactly, because many believe when u go to the wwe, ur automatically going to make “millions of dollars”! That’s not true. U gotta pay ur dues and build ur brand!
There movie that tells their whole story is just fucking amazing, check that shit out, literally worked from the ground up making there own ring out of a trampoline and hoses was just great they truly lived their dream.
@@juggaklown1 Because he was screwing them over. Most people like that react negatively when their victims get wise. I dont know. But i m only guessing
My friend wrestles and he travels all over the east side, only makes $200 per match and that’s with merch and pics. It’s rough out there. My respect to all wrestlers
And look at them now bonafide legends, no telling where he would’ve been as a trainer had he just treated them better but ig everything happens for a reason
At least he wasn't a pimp, like Moolah has been alleged to be. It's also brilliant that the Hardys have gone on to become one of the greatest tag teams of the Attitude Era, and barely anyone at the moment knows who this wankstain is.
So really they worked for free or rather they most likely paid to work since the $50 the pocketed wouldn’t have covered travel expenses back then not to mention medical expenses from their injuries.
Man I make 50 each show too and I asked for a pay raise and this booker said “wrestlers shouldn’t ask for anything just be grateful you’re on the card” and that’s why I’m on FITETV, IWTV and I’m featured on the WWE Network/Peacock and he’s still in a barn.
jeff and matt really had it hard
That’s what she said
Matt had it really hard more than jeff
@@MrDreamyBullFan jeff better
@@MrDreamyBullFan must be speaking from experience
@@UUSER_JAYY jeff better what!?
Matt would go on to describe the ordeal as the second worst time he ever got screwed over.
What's the first worst time
@@grippieb6447
Lita
@@ftlegend2325 story or realife wise?
@@grippieb6447 Real life. Do you not know lita cheated on matt with edge?
@@mahaffer71 but now he's presumably happily married with Reby
The Hardys didn't let go of their dreams though
Wtf r u talking about ? Who said they gave up on thier dreams?
@@qpN4SiRqp he's saying that in that situation of being screwed over by your trainer, some people would just give up on their dreams of being a wrestler as seeing it as not worth the hassle, where matt and jeff persevered through super unfair conditions thus not giving up on their dream
@@qpN4SiRqp How tf did you not get the point of my comment?
@@jordannewsom3606 because you did not iterate correctly...the way you said it ..it reads like you are defending them from an accusation..."after all that they still followed thier dreams" translates properly in text t9 convey your intended meaning ...my mistake for not putting it together the way you intended
@@qpN4SiRqp that’s your disability showing. Don’t blame the commenter just because you can only interpret things one way.
most people would quit but the Hardy Boyz kept grinding and look at them now
The Italian stallion should be arrested for theft. No agent, manager or booklet makes 75% of all events over the performer
And they are the best Tag Team in History!
*cough* *cough* new day *cough*
@@JayTD11 cough cough The Dudley Boyz E&C The Usos RKBro and many more cough cough
@MajinAdam I respect the legendary team too
@@jackslc01 RKBro and Greatest Tag Team don't go in the same sentence
They still have some ground to cover to best the career/title runs of the Dudley Boys.
Man, I really can't believe the Hardy Boys are not in the WWE Hall of Fame. They really brought alot of ppl to the WWE with the way they put their bodies on the line. Those TLC matches have to be some of the highest rated matches of all time. They deserve to be on the Hall of Fame.
Could be but unfortunately Jeff Hardy has drug abuse issues
HOF induction was offered only to Jeff. He rejected it because Matt was not included. He wants his brother to be inducted together with him as The Hardy Boyz.
I guess the Hardy's got the last laugh, they both became famous while no one knows or cares about what happened to the stallion 😂🤣😂🤣
Didn't he beat Apollo Creed and then lose to Mr T?
@@Mike--Oxmall Joke is not funny anymore. come up with better material
@@Mike--Oxmall I think you stole my Rocky joke
@@someone0 No I didnt, it was literally the first thing I thought of, judging by the comments so did everybody else.
@@Mike--Oxmall yeah I was wrong about that
Paid them $150 & charged a $100 booking fee? No wonder ppl left territories. WWE has issues but at least they paid well. Charging 2/3 of what you pay someone is highway robbery!
The stallion didn't pay them, the WWF did. They were not full-time contractors so they were paid per match (partially due to the fact that a wrester having a match was not garanteed often and paying them more while not being apart of the company was not a smart business model.
What's being said here is that the Stallion is the one who had connections to WWF and would book the Hardyz for their matches as their manager, but being their manager meant he knew they were paid 150 per match and would just take 2/3 of that as payment for booking them. He was scamming them, sure, but he wasn't the one paying them directly. Hence, them calling WWF and telling them to cut out the middleman.
The old timers excuse for that was " paying your dues." 1/3 maybe. But 2/3? Bull.
I must ask, why would WWF pay them only €150 before they got contracted? They still earned made revenue from their performances either way. I mean, atleast pay them more than 150, and then more when they signed a contract.
@@megaboy28 they weren’t even signed 150 dollars is good for people not even in the company
Is getting potentially hurt for life worth 150 dollars a night? I get it that people have aspirations and goals to make it in the business, and will work hard from nothing to get to somethting. But for hired wrestles to give their best for a company that's been growing on a global scale for decades, is crazy.
Why was Rocky stealing from them he's already a frickin heavyweight champion
Yea that's odd 🤔
The restaurant business was hard on rocky he needed a few extra bucks
Child support took all the money
Don't forget rocky used to work for a loan shark,old habits die hard
@@jamaali2358 😂😂
And not only they became one of or if not the most influential tag team figures in professional wrestling . But both Matt & Jeff became WORLD CHAMPION respectively . And truth be told , I've never heard of Italian Stallion before . Not even by a jobber status did i ever heard of his name . That's how bad the tables were turned .
He was a jobber in the NWA back in the 80's
He did teach them everything they know and helped them get booked sooo this vid is just manipulating what truly happened
@@marieorender9385 I guess he likely taught them the basics but a lot of their stuff they must have came up with in their own, other trainers didn't do that to their students so why does he deserve their money?.... plus that's a ridiculous way to think.... do you have school teachers coming to your job to take a cut of your wages for teaching you how to read and do mathematics, they almost certainly paid him fees to learn initially and I don't understand why you're defending his shady practices.
@@samuelwoods164 well if they went out of the way and helped me get that job by getting my name out there I deserve some pay back your acting like the trainer is some rich millionaire
@@marieorender9385 you're just being ridiculous now, that's not at all how the world works and you seem to be grasping at straws because you're unwilling to just accept you hadn't thought through your previous reply and can't accept you were wrong, I looked him up and what he was doing was clearly bad enough for WWF/E to stop working with him altogether because of that so it clearly isn't normal practice, regardless of how much money he had.... if he was good at his job and had successful students he could have leveraged his position to get more students, charged more money for lessons and possibly been brought on by big companies in a backstage capacity but he didn't do that he stole money for their pockets and as a result burned a lot of bridges, your reasoning doesn't make sense at all.
Payed their dues and now they're on top of the world
Proud of you guys for staying focused
That’s why they are GOATS
He was pimping them out
There's only one Italian Stallion, and that's Rocky Balboa
Yuuuhhh that's what I was saying
A dubba dubba day, ayo Adrian
Thus was the inspiration for "big money" matt
big money salvia
Not only one of the best tag teams of all time but the best team of brothers ever
Jeff and Matt are my men. They really worked hard for it. Jeff has sacrificed his body to entertain us. He’s the real man and no one else could do what he has done! ❤️
Jeff Hardy is serving 5 years in prison right now
And now they are tag team legends 🔥
And now, I would happily buy a 150$ ticket just to watch Hardy boys in the arena... Damn, they steal the show... Jeff is my all time favorite star after RVD...
These 2 were/are AWSOME
I bet this used to happen to alot of wrestlers back in the day
Thats what moolah did...when you dont know no better. Thats what can and often happens🤷🏾♂️
@@cjjonez Moolah used to big time rob her girls
@@_justinblizzle yeah thats why i said it. She robbed them of more than they money also🤷🏾♂️
Happened with Super Crazy too. What's worse tho is Super Crazy was actually signed (I think) and yet still didn't get paid much more then the Hardy's got from Stallion back then.
Be humble to everyone you meet because you will never know who you’ll come into contact with.
Just think how loyalty could have paid out for him....Karma's a bitch😂😂
He didn't deserve the name Italian stallion, Rocky Balboa on the other hand was worthy of it.
Jeff was one of my favorite wrestlers to watch. And when Jeff and Matt were in a tag team match, you know shit was gonna go crazy
As a kid thank you so much y’all
Where my favs
They were 1 of the coolest tag team ever. Especially when they use to do all kinds of kicks and jumps.
One of the greatest tag teams of all time.
I actually went to high school with Jeff and Matt Union Pines high school We all grew up in the same city those brothers had a big ass wrestling ring in the yard when they were teenagers
Jeff Hardy had dreadlocks at the end. He looked like Raven. 😂 🤣
These guys aré two of the best pro wrestlers of all time
And now they're legends
They're so famous people that don't watch wrestling think their legends
*They're
Bollocks, most people on the street wont know who they are.
Shows how mucg they wanted to make it now look 25+year in buis. Fkn love both them
There is only one Italian Stallion and his Name is Rocky
Had the pleasure of seeing them reunited live in ft Myers fl. I felt like a kid again.
the italian....rapscallion
Literally 2 weeks before their first WWE debut, they wrestled in the Henderson, NC Armory. Met them upstairs after seeing them grapple. They weren't even The Closer that night! DOWN TO EARTH and Good Guys! The Armory is now gone but the Hardy Boys out of Lee County remain! 😃✌️🤟
Who paused to see that contract
They got the best entrance
One of my favorite memories of Italian Stallion was Ric Flair making him scream like a bitch in the Figure Four before he tapped.
Lol that's good. Ruc flair is 👑 King.
Me: Why the F... I have to see a full 15 second ad just to see this 38 seconds video.
Also me: Because it's worth it..
Hope he saved that $100 after every match wisely. Hardy’s went to become legends meanwhile, this is my first time hearing of the Italian Stallion.
The Hardy Boys are still my favourite tag team..
The number of stories I've heard now about the "old school" wrestlers completely fucking over upcoming talents is mind blowing
I love these two
My favourite duo ❤
Can you imagine putting your body through hell, for 50 dollars a match? These dudes, especially Jeff, have been risk takers in the ring for years. The fact they're still wrestling today, shows the love they have for the business.
I dont know who the Italian Stallion is. But he reaped what he sowed. Suits him right
Bushwhackers. 😂😂 best finishing move by a tag team. 😂😂
Great story about the Hardy brothers
The Hardy's are A Big Tag Team Name.
Ah the god old wrestling days with the hardy boyz
Damn I didn’t know this and Jeff is my all time favorite
The Italian Stallion Rocky Balboa
Yo Italian stallion looked like scott hall back in the early days before the razor ramon gimmick
These guys were so crazy to watch in ladders and tables matches against the dudleys
The grind was crazy these are now for facts that team best ver hall of Fame
Love your vids bro
The cost paid to become legendary. I bet they’d do that shit all over again.
Exactly, because many believe when u go to the wwe, ur automatically going to make “millions of dollars”! That’s not true. U gotta pay ur dues and build ur brand!
Allegedly the Stallion was also a "collector" for a loan shark when he wasn't wrestling, he wasn't one of the more upstanding characters around.
daaaaamn...true rags-to-riches story for real, for real
Think even if you barely know of the Hardy’s, you’ve heard this story 100 times
There movie that tells their whole story is just fucking amazing, check that shit out, literally worked from the ground up making there own ring out of a trampoline and hoses was just great they truly lived their dream.
I'm sure in his mind, they screwed him over when they started doing direct bookings and got that contract
Stallion was the talent scout for wwe back then. Why would he be screwed over, or screwed them Over?
@@juggaklown1 Because he was screwing them over. Most people like that react negatively when their victims get wise. I dont know. But i m only guessing
Rumour has it that Matt and Jeff did okay after that
If that had been done to anyone else, that italian stallion would have been turned into glue.
Love the Hardy bros , cried my eyes out when I was 10 and they split lmao!
My friend wrestles and he travels all over the east side, only makes $200 per match and that’s with merch and pics. It’s rough out there. My respect to all wrestlers
That’s crazy!
An interesting example of never to mess with God's people.
WHAT
@@extremeking425 God’s people.
The Pharaohs?
@@crashpal God’s people.
The Hardy’s are the best tag team if all time
And look at them now bonafide legends, no telling where he would’ve been as a trainer had he just treated them better but ig everything happens for a reason
Now I get the big money matt character.
Clever business by the stallion 👏
The only Italian Stallion I know of is Rocky Balboa and that ain't him 😂
Sounds like they should have introduced this guy into the table
When I was a kid I carried the Italian Stallions flag to the ring at an independent show. Haven't heard of him again until now
Love that story
Gotta start somewhere
so he was their moolah
At least he wasn't a pimp, like Moolah has been alleged to be. It's also brilliant that the Hardys have gone on to become one of the greatest tag teams of the Attitude Era, and barely anyone at the moment knows who this wankstain is.
The difference between the Hardys and this guy is that I've heard of the Hardys. Bet that $100 seems pretty inconsequential now
OHH I THOUGHT YOU SAID SCREWED LIKE BANGED
Glad I was born in the 90s
They ass was gettin extorted fr
Wth 150 gas groceries bill thats some bs smh
Really funny how Matt basically was the Italian Stallion with his Big Money Matt gimmick.
$50 is more than most make on the indies. You're lucky to get a free meal when you're at that point.
So really they worked for free or rather they most likely paid to work since the $50 the pocketed wouldn’t have covered travel expenses back then not to mention medical expenses from their injuries.
Man I make 50 each show too and I asked for a pay raise and this booker said “wrestlers shouldn’t ask for anything just be grateful you’re on the card” and that’s why I’m on FITETV, IWTV and I’m featured on the WWE Network/Peacock and he’s still in a barn.
To quote the great spy/poet Sterling Malory Archer: "Phrasing!"
Karma is like a Boomerang 🪃
It's called paying dues...
The only way this could’ve been better is if he managed the Full Blooded Italians and got the Twist of Fate and Swanton Bomb.
I'd still put my money on the hammer Brothers: Jack, claw and sledge!
The only Italian Stallion I know is Rocky Balboa
They literally were at the bottom, then they rise to the top