As a black American, during the time of slavery there were resistances. We’re they wrong to retaliate to gain freedom? Oppressed people have a right to resist.
Sorry if my English is bad but you black Americans support Israel over Palestine. Do you know Floyd mayweather? Lebron James?! They support Palestine and other black celebrities as well. I heard that Floyd mayweather sent a private jet to Israel, but how come he’s never sent a private jet to your communities in America? Which are full of poverty? Why side with the oppressors?
Am from Africa, speaking on an international level the guy in white makes a lot of sense to me. The world is bigger than USA & humanity is all we'll ever wish for. The US is imposing a lot on other countries. You can never know this unless you get to live outside of your home country (theUS).
These guys have caught the very american "we are the good guys" virus, making them believe that even if you cause tremendous pain and injustice around the world somehow you're the good guys.
hope you read this, I want to put some things in context: 1. the verse of the Quran mentioned in the beginning has some fundamental words in it, read carefully. Permission, done wrong, fight back. these are the main words. before this verse was revealed, the muslims were not allowed to fight back their wrong doers in Makkah 1400 years ago at the time of the prophet. once this verse revealed, they were allowed to FIGHT BACK those who did wrong to them. it is a fairly long story to put it to youtube comment, you can look into the history. (this is mainly for the guy with a green hoodie. It is just to let you see the full picture). 2. on the last part where Bin Laden said he expects from you: In short he is calling you to Islam (you guys reaction looked like if you don't revert to Islam you are enemies of Islam. especially with the content of the letter talking mainly about war it gives such an impression but I can tell you that is not the case, he is basically evangelizing you by inviting you to Islam. There is a Quran verse that says paraphrased " If you meet one of those polytheists[idol worshippers of Arabia] accompany him until he listens to the words of Allah and then escort him to his destination (whether he accepts the invitation or rejects it)." the religion teaches there is no compulsion in Islam, whoever wants let him believe or disbelieve.) 3. The main point he raised which explains Alqaeda's stance is the statement where he makes all Americans responsible and the American people should be considered the enemy and targeted. That is the main difference with the extremists. Because Islam and especially the laws of war in Islam explicitly state that non combatants should not be harmed in any way (children, women, religious sites of any religion, priests and religious leaders, plants, animals, houses and resources etc...) even more so that the religion mentions in the Quran Chapter 5 (Al Maeda) that whoevere kills one innocent person is considered as if he killed All of humanity and whoever saves the life of a person is considered as if he saved the life of all of humanity. The killing of innocent civilians is strictly prohibited in Islam. the guy with white t-shirt tries to put himself in people's shoes and see their point of view, which isa massive step into finding common ground and looking for genuine peace. the guy with brown hoodie, I love how you calmly listen and try to understand the situation. the guy with green hoodie, I can see your honest feeling and protective stance. I can see you're not blindly hating but I want to say you just don't need to change your POV or religion or anything else. Just try to see the perspectives of others. Has it occurred to you that you might be wrong and the other side might be right? you only know when you understand or at least see both or all sides, until then I guess you just believe as everyone of us. good luck man. the guy with red pants. You are some composed guy. I have been watching your videos and I always am eager to listen to your take or understanding on different things. you try to become neutral and you are not afraid to correct yourself anytime you found yourself mistaken.wish you all the best
Very true the green guy is an obvious islamaphobe and doesn’t stick to one argument, he once says it’s about Muslims vs Christian’s then he says it’s about land but he never mentioned the innocents of the Muslim side
and do you think those extremists are not controlled by emotion i understand and agree with white shirt but in the first place if they stayed in their religion nothing would have happen they choose to act.
To the guy wearing green you quoted the bible saying turn the other cheek but then you say ur American patriot even tho you know you country didnt turn the other cheek and starved 1.5 million children? Clear contradiction
@AnthonySmith-hl2pq 0 seconds ago 25:45 I see the green shirt guy say that Bible says turn the next cheek and that’s the difference. He clearly didn’t read the Bible properly. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman". Luke 19:27 But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” Matthew 10:34. (I can go on for much more but these examples should be sufficient to educate him if he is ignorant of them or hush him if he’s deliberately misleading)
Mr. white shirt is the only one willing to challenge the conversation and preconceptions. Those guys read the letter but didn't understand one word of it. He said if you kill lots of people you are evil, by that logic you are probably among one of the most evil.
The Green Hoodie dude is your typical example of a close-minded USA Exceptionalist, been taking in the western "talking points" without much critical thought or global perspective. Also, likes to shut down any other contradicting ideas & perspectives as "stupid" and will never learn. He is probably a decent human being, but will be so obtuse and resistant to truly learn the reality of the situation.
The white shirt guy made the most sense. He actually put aside his American biases and honestly considered the other perspective as if he were in their shoes. Respect!
And then the others blew up, I got bored and went back to redacted on rumble. I would prefer being able to see alt perspectives without being accused of being affiliated with it. I agree with the idea of freedom speech WELL YOU JUST LOVE USA THEN! Actually I would prefer they didn't have hundreds of bases world wide, I'm against them funding Israel and I'm against America using Africa (Alkebulan) as a resource bank.
The letter didn't just "drop". It was available all along. The Guardian released it back in the day. But now that GenZ people discovered it, the Guardian decided to take it down, after 21 years. Stupid shit.
Because Gen Zers have the radical mentality of radical Islam jihadists. Look around how many of these young men and women are converting to Islam. Islam targets those with weak minds.
If you bought the lie that Bin Laden actually orchestrated 9/11 then your opinion is meaningless. 9/11 was perpetrated by the elites that deceive you everyday with left / right polarization, federal reserve, wars, false flag shootings, and psyops of every kind. Stop being deceived.
No your wrong. The world isn’t black and white. There’s almost never a case where one side is innocent and the other is evil. I can tell by your comment that your gullible and don’t know how the real world works. The world is grey and the line between good and evil is often blurred. Yeah when there’s oppression there’s resistance but just remember that just because there’s resistance doesn’t always mean there’s oppression. Many people love to use the youth to further their own goals.
Could be ignorant or maybe you’re speaking to someone who has been there, has studied it for 20 years, and knows what they’re talking about. These guys clearly know almost nothing unless some goofy like piers morgan or cnn tells them.
@@justinatest9456 not answering.. not taking a side.. is being lukewarm. Jesus wants you to take a stance, not stay in the middle in your false "safe zone"
The guy in the middle was saying "What would Jesus do", Jesus stood against the injustice he saw perpetrated by his own government, he did not stand silent, he preached against the action of his own nation. It is the whole reason he was killed. You cannot say "I want to be like Jesus" and support the atrocities that America has commited.
I think the guy wearing white is asking the right questions, he's not picking sides but the others are basically dismissing the whole letter written based on that first paragraph 😂 that's crazy
Especially since they are incorrectly translating what the first sentence is saying and have misquoted the Quran as well as what Muslims believe MANY MANY times just in this ONE video!! I wish people would actually read and learn about ALL religions so they know what others believe so they don’t form uneducated opinions then repeat them which then makes others form opinions (based on inaccuracies) about religions they know nothing about.
1. When you read the words of someone who is personally responsible for the murder of 3000+ innocent people you might want to be careful taking everything he says at face value ..a mass murderer is not gonna be the best source of information in his propaganda letter. 2. You conveniently ignored the parts about the Quran being 100% intolerant against everyone else who is not following Islam and its calls for vi*lence and m*rder. Are you a Muslim? If not they not only encouraged but obliged to k*ll you ..and you might get a chance to convert but if you refuse you d*e and if they think are are faking your belief in Islam you are d*ad too in that case. 3. You really dont want to live under Sharia law ..look into it please so you would understand what it means. 4. Mass murderers are hardly the guys who would win a high morality contest ..same applies to their prophet who allowed them to hav 4 wives ..while he had 11 wives - including a prepubescent little girl -, he also killed people, kept slaves, and led armies that killed a massive amount of people. He endorsed r*pe of captured woman ..including "marriage" to prisoners of war or slaves taken from raided villages ..while their husbands were alive ..which goes against their own religion. 5. If Osama would met you and had a chance he would have k*lled you no matter how great and good person you are, unless you are Muslim. 6. Also you might wanna read about their concept of Heaven which is pretty much hell for woman and sounds like some horny kid came up with the idea after he accidentally consumed 100 viagra tablets then got high on c*caine. 7. If you think a good and just God would pick a prophet who has a prepubescent girl as a wife then something is very wrong with you and you should see a doctor. And we just touched upon the tip of the iceberg.. yet this is more than enough to make my stomach turn.
You people really thing those religious ravings have any value to them? You should try reading ISIS manifesto next, you'll love it! People like you are those types that went to fight for ISIS and now are crying in refugee camps, trying to get back to their countries they hate so much. How simple minded do people have to be to let themselves get brainwashed like that... With a stupid letter written by a barely literate arabian slave owner. 🤡🤡🤡
So many have been indoctrinated through MSM propaganda. The investments in Project Mockingbird has been paying dividends for the military industrial complex since it's inception.
It's ironic how this young generation who are the most savvy with social media are also the ones who have proven to be the easiest useful idiots to manipulate.
@@cocofifty4The previous generations (Especially Boomers!) are manipulated by Mainstream media. As would the Younger generations, if Social media didn't exist.
I think even the carter family. I do not think it is okay to just come and react to what is topical without doing some of your own research before hand. Even if I might not agree with your reactions, I still want your reactions to be from a place of knowledge. As an example, before you say America should stay out of the war in the Middle East, please research why they got in, in the first place.
Not just from this video alone, but the previous ones. He just hate the Muslims/arabs so much that he doesn't want to see anything right about them. I mean he's out of nowhere was like "Israel is right" without having any knowledge about the Palestinians struggle unlike his friends who tried to search and understand. And even after it was proven many times that Israel did war crimes and they're racist and genocide them and whatever bad thing you can think of for like 70+ years he still try to justify for them. Now in this video he immediately attacks with accusations of being terrorist justifier his friend when he try to view things from the other side. 🙃 I think the red pants and white shirt are very good people at core and being ignorant about history didn't make them arrogant and hateful. They didn't become like him which prove they're good inside they just need to knowledge. He on the other side will not change his behaviour even with the knowledge because he's the type to believe whatever he want not whatever is true. They need to get away from the him.
Now I understand why the guy in the green hoodie immediately agreed with Israel, he is completely uninformed and thinks that Muslims would kill him because he is a Christian. He even says it in the video and claims that all „non believers“ will be killed if you don't change your religion, which is not true. The Koran says that everyone can decide for themselves whether they convert to Islam or not and only Allah and no one else can guide them. Thats the reason why That is also the reason why the American people in this letter are not forced to pray to Islam. The reason for the invitation is simple: Muslims believe that anyone who does not accept Islam will not come to God, i.e. go to hell. Since you don't want anyone's hell, you invite people to the true religion, but if you are convinced of your religion, you can refuse the invitation without being forced. Then he is asked what he would do if other people attacked him and killed his mother or father. First he acts as if he were as powerful as Jesus and claims he would turn the other cheek, then he realizes that he is just a man And just like Bin Laden and Fetan would take revenge on the murderers. Then he says it's just his human side that would take revenge, but he realizes that he's only human and that's exactly why he would seek revenge. Instead of blaming the attacker and saying that the guilty party is the one who attacked first and killed the other's friends or family. That's why I lack empathy with the guy with the green hoody and that's also the reason why I only understand the guy in the white top, because he, like me, wants to remain neutral and thinks what would I do if it were just for no reason someone attacks and kills my family??
@@SaracenSky just stop. You are making baseless judgements based on a person you don’t know personally. And lets be honest muslims not all been participating in violent behaviors these past years. Nigeria for example Muslims/Arabs are terrorizing christian nigerians are those in opposition to their beliefs. How about you learn to educate your self on international affairs before virtual signaling talking points. No one is innocent in these baseless wars
"Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. (Quran 60:8)" No we don’t wake up random day and choose violence ❤
please edit your comment and add the reference of that ayah sister, they should know its from Quran and can you please also let me know the verse reference
What his fb or instagram he had me tight when he said in the bible it says turn the other cheek but he dnt kno is in the Old Testament it’s says a eye for a eye
As an Arab Muslim, there is a simple clarification. Word"Taghutat" It means the oppressor and the tyrant You must know its meaning first In Islam, it is forbidden to kill civilians, even if their government is bad, and the text he mentioned has been interpreted differently
@@Shawney-jf6kc CONTEXT: the verse is actually referring to the pagan arabs at that time, who had committed atrocities against the early Muslim community_ its NOT referring to you or other people presently Quran 5:82_ You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant. Commentary: CONTEXT : this is referring to certain Jewish tribes who backstabbed the Muslims, by siding with the pagan Arabs_ this is not referring to all Jews at the time or even now_ see another example of this: Quran: [2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.
Black Americans should know better since they have been slaved since the late 1700s and only got their right to vote in 1870. what is happening to the Palestinians is inhumane and should stop.
or when he said his religion says turn the other cheek ...homie forgot about the crusaders or let alone in recent history what they did to iraq as a retaliation lol
The guy in green was anti even before he heard it. Thats not how you should deal with politics and religion. Its about truth and not about what you like to be true. Man up bro. Dont let emotions lead you.
@@Jkief123Only Allah can decide if someone becomes Muslim, there is no compulsion in religion. Islam doesn’t say to Islamist the world, only Allah can do that if he wishes
@@YeniuOjiak well I mean if we attached every bad the US, the Germans, the Belgians, the French, the English have done in this world to “Christians” terrorism will look like a piece of cake
I am 41 years old and have no kids. Gen Z is out of this world on so much!! Every one needs to educate themselves. Due to education in states that couldn't afford to give history on a good level. In Illinois a small town i had to grow up in and wasnt born there, our school, was poorly funded. The generations to come after my class graduating wouldn't get very much education. Please keep education alive and keep educating yourself.
😅The green guy gives me whiplash. Reminds me of the verse “And those who do not believe, in the their ears is deafness and it is upon them blindness. Those are being called from a distant place”. Like is he even listening 😂😂
@@faizagatur3308i know right!! And he was saying like christianity teaches love and respect of other beliefs 😂 like seriously did he ever open an bible
Bro said extremists are evil who are killing a group of people so loud with all confident and then forgot "Indigenous peoples of the Americas" and what Israel did in 1948 and 1967 .. and what USA did to Iraq in the name of evil 😂😂😂😂
@@AK-jh1ol i don’t know why , like you see them discuss what oussama benladin did if it was right or wrong ? But like why not discuss if America was right to attack the countries he mentioned in his letters ! And if its wrong why isn’t it called a terrorist state?
My man on the far right is an intellectual. He is so patient with the guys interrupting and yelling over each other. Love these dudes, and if they can learn not to talk over each other, they can be great!
What is the truth and the logic ? For me we 99% of the muslim believe that these attacks on USA civilians are (haram) mean it is a sin and we condem him for doing that and for missexplain our religion and missexplaining the verses of our book. But in case of palestine, palestinian were under continuous attack everyday for the last century by the west and they always creat a cause for it. In this war they fabricated many incidence that happened on that day to boil the people up like the babies story attack and they exagreated some horrbile incidence that happened for sure without saying that the other side also is doing the same actions of these incidence 24/7 for the last 75 years against them. And to show that they were intentionally attacking civilians as targets to kill but that is not true, yes there are some soilders who did horrible stuf but their ideology on targeting civilians is different and does not include it and we can see that in their speech and their repsenters as they don't justify it and they say these actions are nit of our religion not like osama and his ideology that did it. Their secondary objective after targeting military points was taking as many hostages as they can whether they are civilians or not to exchange them with 6000 palestinian prisoners who are under (administrtive detain law) of israel. Those prisoners are from different ages including kids in jails without a case or a representation infront of a court and they stay for 2 months to 8 years. So those are hostages too but with a legalized system by israel. Iam not taking about those who are in israeli prison under a case or a crime. Iam talking about the adminstritive detaintion that you could read about which the reason for the hostage situation, when you discover new things about a war cause then you have to understand that they were lying to you and not showing you the whole picture
@@doodoo871 i think there are always shady deals and alliances not fully disclosed in the history we were taught. Its SO clear to me the debt is so high the US & Co are deliberately pushing for ww3 one way or another that's how they will be able to push the reset button Sadly I don't think things will go the way they hope. Most importantly the public never asked for any of this had they trully understood what the government is deliberately pushing for they would have gone against them a long time ago It is what it is I'am preparing mentally, phisically and spiritually becouse it's coming! 🤷🏾♀️
Apparently the dude with the white hat at the back knows islam more than its believers, how funny. Hearing him makes me mad but at the same time can’t blame him when that’s all they been learning. He truly describes the action of “brainwash”. We muslims don’t fight just coz u don’t believe in our god as we believe in what Quraan says “you have your own beliefs and we have ours” which literally means that we don’t care about ur religion and we don’t fight just coz u don’t believe in ours. We fight as it says in Quraan when u guys fight first. Please understand this point. No human alive ever been attacked first and just kept watching not even u Mr. Believing in love and give the other cheek for the attacker.
Exactly they terrorised the ENTIRE middle east over 3million killed INNOCENT NORMAL CITIZENS combined NOT including 75+ years of Palestinians killed... typical EUROPEAN and now AMERICAN COLONISERS think they can terrorise people without resistance even NELSON MANDELA RESISTED and was called a terrorist
As Muslim I have never seen in Quran verse saying kill innocent disbelievers , but disbelievers who attacked you which means killing your family destroyed your economic.
So did babies attack Gaza? I mean it was little babies whose heads were chopped off and dismembered. I mean Hamas attacked a festival during a religious Jewish holiday and then kidnapped and beheaded people, raped women, were parading dead bodies in the streets as the citizens of Gaza spit on the corpses and threw things at them... Does Allah command all of that? I didn't see any videos other than the fake ones that Hamas created with dummies in stretchers to make it look like a dead Muslim. They claim Israel bombed a hospital and that was a lie. HAMAS bombed the parking lot of a hospital and there weren't any mass casualties. So answer my question? Islam isn't about killing innocent people so why did Hamas attack innocent people? Your lies don't stand. It contradicts itself. Just like your Quran and your prophet
you are correct sir. 60:8 Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly
You guys this is not in our book (quran) never in the quran it says go and kill innocent kids, woman etc. There is a verse is the quran that speaks about fighting yes and alot of people take this out of context. The verse about fighting is about the battle field where they where fighting at that time.
Bin laden was the son of an extremely wealthy businessman and he had a privileged upbringing. Bin laden financially supported islamic freedom fighters against the invasion of Afghanistan. When the soviets withdrew, bin laden went on with jihad (holy war) against the west. Please read up on the full history of bin laden’s background and life. I believe his words are to manipulate.
Just to clarify something, the word jihad in Arabic doesn't mean holy war so please don't change the meaning of the arabic language...I know you have been brainwashed by your media to understand things for not what they really are but still....Jihad means "to struggle"...and in Islam it means to literally struggle in the cause of Allah and there are two types of Jihad: the first and biggest one is to literally study, work, seek knowledge and stuff like that but the good of the people and with Allah in mind...the second one and it's the smaller type of Jihad is to fight for justice (what you would consider holy war but still it's not the meaning of the word on itself) it's just that it's another type of struggle in the name of god...and obviyit doesn't mean Terr*rism or killing civilians, it has laws and rules to it, and that stuff is forbidden in Islam (and ven buildings, trees and stuff like that shouldn't be affected in these cases.....this is just to clarify a little bit since I always see these words thrown out lightly without people knowing their true meaning....and obviously we don't always mean the Islamic meanings of the word when we use it, since it's just another commons word in Arabic and it's also used casually for trivial stuff.. it's also a name in Arabic so you will find some people having their first name be Jihad
The Bin-Laden's are an extremely large and rich family. They had literally shut down all flights on 9/11 except for a few that were the Bin-Laden family flying back home to Saudi Arabia. They are extremely connected.
Just to explain that verse as a Muslim myself it says: God had given permission for Muslims that are wronged to fight back. Simple, you don’t start agression but if your wronged then you have the permission to fight back. By the way, personally plus big scholars in Islam already said bin Laden’s explanation of these verses are wrong and his position is wrong and they even called him ‘’ a misguided individual’’ back in the 90’s when no one knew anything about him outside the Middle East.
@@JennHayden how did u know about him in the 80’s when even us in the Middle East we didn’t know the guy !! The first time people started hearing about him was during the 1991 gulf war (and not many by the way) just because he threatened both the Saudi Arabia and American Governments back then but no one really took his threats seriously !
The Qur’an says, “You have your religion and we have our religion,” meaning if you do not want to be a Muslim, you have freedom of choice and we live in peace. We will not fight you. Many of the media distort Islam. Search for Islam, read about it yourself, and prostrate yourself to the whole truth.
You guys have soooo many misconceptions about Islam and it’s teachings. Please have a convo with Sheikh Uthman from the one message foundation TH-cam channel. He’s from Cali he’s chill asf and can explain things in a comprehensive way. Trust, it would go viral
I am Muslim, It's your right to fight combatant. There is a very well-known verse of Quran that states "And the retribution for an evil act is an evil one like it, but whoever pardons and makes reconciliation - his reward is [due] from Allah. Indeed, He does not like wrongdoers.” (Quran 42:40). But It's very complicated issue because the pardon is favoured and god hate wrongdoing. Islam is a thousand and half year old religion with huge number of Islamic theology books, So The interpretation of Quran is very wide and sometimes look conflicting. So I don't encourage you to know about Islam from extremists.
Sounds very similar to to MLK's, "Hate begets hate; violence begets violence; toughness begets a greater toughness". Basically, violence is endless cycle that will keep rotating. I agree, pardon and peace should be taken, and the even greater question, by whom? It's definitely a complicated situation. I personally see both sides living among peace as long as the PA doesn't push the hate of jews, and both sides look toward understanding rather than fear and hate (Goes for both Israeli's and Palestinian's). I definitely have respect for Islam for viewing all (Including Jesus) as prophets of allah, peace be upon him. I just don't understand how people can support those who rape others. I fully believe that Gazan and Israeli teens are curious and excited to meet each other and work toward peace, but their governments (Izrael and an unfortunately Hamas run government) don't look toward peace. Peace negotiations have been extremely discriminative toward one side when offered by the other, which obviously will never work. Overall, it's just sad
@Joe-no7gsI mean the Bible is no better. Not only that, money is the king and millions have been killed by America for shareholders profits. Money and religion are the two biggest problems on this planet.
Palestinians are not all Muslims; they include Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Originally, they aspired to establish a state where people of different faiths could coexist as thousand of years befor. However, this vision was disrupted when Jewish settlers from the West arrived and began forcefully displacing and harming everyone who wasn't Jewish. They invited all Jews to settle in their newly acquired homes. Despite Palestinians' continuous cries and complaints, their pleas went unanswered for so long that they felt compelled to communicate with the perpetrators in the only language they seemed to understand: violence
@@Warum.2439 the Christian population has dramatically decreased since the Zionist occupation, because many have died or fled. For reference just look up Palestinian a Christian there’s a great video on it by a Palestinian priest. For example, Bethlehem was predominantly Christian population was above 80% Christian I think now it’s around 12% Christian. And that is all thanks to the Zionist occupation.
@@Warum.2439 that's the thing mate. all Palestinians whatever their religion didn't want to separate and devide their country, they wanted to live in this country and coexist with equal rights, that's why Gigi'h Hadid's grandfather shared his home with an imegrant Jew before he locked him out and expelled him. and rob them, it's not complicated, it's a foreign terrorist gang that took over a country and killed and expeled everyone not connected to them and naed it isnotreal
I appreciate that you all kept the fake letter in. Combating fake news is one of the major battles we face today. Your level of transparency not only demonstrates your integrity but also serves as an example to everyone to check their sources. The information war is real, and propaganda is everywhere. The best we can do is try to decipher the truth from the lies and raise awareness about both.
That’s what I would call a freedom fighter, when was the last time America fought a war because we were attacked first, ww2 all the rest of the wars after that we’ve traveled across the world to oppress atleast that’s the way I see it
Bin Laden was never oppressed. 9/11 was not even orchestrated by him. Stop being deceived. It was another psyop to destabilize security in the world. The same elites that control society now with psyops and propaganda. Bin Laden and Bush were just characters being told what to say.
@@youngrezwarrior Was the aggression aimed at those civilians? I would say largely not but America are definitely responsible for war crimes and terroristic acts.
For clarification as felt you guys misunderstood what Islam says about other religions: The Quran, the holy book of Islam, generally shows respect towards other religions, particularly the "People of the Book" (Jews and Christians). It acknowledges the common roots of these Abrahamic faiths, emphasizing shared beliefs in the same God and many of the same figures, like prophets. However, there are also verses that criticize aspects of these and other religions, reflecting the context and conflicts of the time when the Quran was revealed. Overall, the Quran emphasizes the importance of belief in one God and calls for respectful dialogue and understanding among different faiths.
The Palestine conflict raging for over 80 years is about land not religion. The state of Israel (Zionists) is accused of oppressing the Palestinian people. There are many Jews around the world who disagree with Zionism. If a two state solution was implemented and the Palestinian people could be free to govern themselves as full citizens this war would end tomorrow as the civilians would not want hamas or any other terrorist group to get in the way.
Yeah, that can be true for all social media since they're biased and censor what they want depending on which side they want to support. The truth of the matter is, that we don't know Ossama Bin Laden, and at a certain point, I just thought he was a fictional character. The US said what they had to say to further their propaganda and invade Iraq, Afghanistan, and whatever other country they wanted to invade. As we saw with the Israel-Hamas situation, it's so easy to lie in people's faces, Israel is blatantly doing it daily even when we for sure know they're lying.
lmao let me tell you the app will never go. I'm glad china owns it. Its destroying main stream media propaganda that unfortunatly the USA follows . Thats why we in europe and the rest of the world look at you as dumb and the school system as failed you. You guys have no critical thinking.
Imagine just blindly siding with a country. And imagine blindly siding with the most evil country in human history, perhaps second only to the British empire.
What’s scary is this is now censored. We should be given the truth and be taught to see why things happen. Truth needs to be told. We have been lied to for so long, just for greed and power
@@the1prodig432 That's only a piece of the letter, lmao. So you believe non-believers should be killed? You believe that American citizens are ALL responsible and their death is justified by their consent to their governments actions? I wonder what your choice will be if you are offered Islam or the sword, if the jihad spoken about in the letter comes about. But your thought process explains the emerging ignorance in young Americans today...
I can’t listen to you guys anymore. Every single human being who has been oppressed, dehum😮amused, homes and lands stolen would have no choice but to get revenge
I am a Muslim and in our religion killing one person is like killing whole humanity and is a magor sin that will not be forgiven but if we are oppressed we have a right to retaliate... But even in retaliation we have to follow certain rules 1.Not to kill civilians 2.Not to kill women and children, and many more... Read book "hundred years war on Palestine" to understand this issue..
What rules say you shouldn't kill civilians??? The losers?? Every war civilians have died en mass. The not killing civilians is a recent phenomena. Muslims are famous for cutting heads off and other crazy actions. You support JIHAD!!!
@@Fakerealestatebiz they were talking about war rules these u mentioned are not related to war rules but other Islamic laws lets say the cheaters a man/women get stoned (man who cheats on his wife or a women who cheats on her husband ) gay people is death too but these law can do them in Islamic country with sharia law idk how to explain much but like can do them when country and community are good and don't have these things as normal stuff and the government should do the punishment not the people Allah knows best
bro in the green just fails to understand perspectives on an issue lmao, its not necessarily about right or wrong, its about why he believed in the things he did
So they are Republicans because if they had the both sides in the same room they probably would agree on most issues and they say left like it's a sin ,Boy , they aren't well read they only one who keeps it 100 is the guy in the white shirt the guy is the green act like he is in a cult and can't see the humanity in not killing kids in the thousands as a problem.
I said this in the last video y’all made on this topic and I’ll say it again. You *NEED* to know the history and context of the region, as well as what American influence truly meant during those years to even *possibly* attempt to understand *why* people from gen-z may possibly agree with *some* of what was written in these texts. Hell, the first time I heard of these documents was about 9 years ago when the absolute *most* intelligent teacher at our highly ranked school taught us about propaganda and half-truths within our *own* society (he was about 70 years old, this awareness of the mistakes of one’s *own* govt is certainly *not* exclusive to gen-z). He challenged us to imagine what *we* would feel, being innocent civilians uninvolved with your nations conflict, being *consistently* taken advantage of, for your nation’s resources, bombed, abused, oppressed and murdered. For generation after generation. His point was *certainly NOT* that the actions of figures like Osama Bin Laden were justified, but that there was clearly objective evidence of causation. Compare *that,* to the way *we* were brought up to believe that *we* are #1, that *we* went through these horrible tragedies purely because of *them,* our gov admitting absolutely zero wrongdoing for years, and that *WE* are “the good guys,” always have been, and always will be. The US government has made *myriad* mistakes over the years that could arguably be constituted as war crimes for violating human rights laws, but we, as citizens aren’t taught about such things, and have been raised to believe that *our* country can do absolutely no wrong, whatsoever. The problem is, the countries that we’ve been silently oppressing have now been raised the same, believing that *we* are nothing but evil. *Nothing* will change until we can *somehow* find some sort of mutual understanding, but that’s been made nearly impossible due to generations and generations of oppressing near-destitute countries that end up retaliating through extremism. Causation is there, justification is not. That’s all I’m trying to say.
I just wish that with the size and scale of your platform/reach, (all of) you guys would read up on the actual modern history of said regions, at least a *bit.* And if dude in the green hoodie *seriously* still believes this is about nothing other than religion, just leave em’ at home for the next vid ffs 😭😂 Y’all can do better, I know it, and I’m excited to see it 👍💪
There is so much truth in your post. Unfortunately, the hatred that has been bred into the Islamic Jihadists can not be eradicated. America has participated in wars for money and money alone.
@saehisaya I somewhat agree as Religion seems to have played a very heavy role in the reasoning for the fighting to begin in the first place, but I’d argue that this conflict has evolved over centuries, and is now due *mostly* to territorial disputes. I mean, millions upon millions of people from both Judaism and Islam live peacefully throughout the world-it’s not as though the two religions hold an inherent “hate” for one another, typically speaking. That being said, however, their religions *are* what dictates *how* they respond to such issues (like land disputes) at times, believing that doing so is “God’s work.” Therefore, though their religion’s differ vastly at times, Religion is not the explicit *reason* for this current conflict. BUT, it *can* be said to explain *why* each side believes their response to the conflict is correct. That’s why dude in the green hoodie can’t say something as black and white as; “it’s *JUST* due to religion”; Because it’s SUCH a complex issue with *myriad* factors he’s likely unaware of.
@@jillkearl4382you guys started it first. You whine and bitch about jihadis when you guys created Israel, did regime changes, bombed our countries etc. so we will fight back
Dude in green talking about Christianity not preaching violence, but ignoring the fact that it was used for manifest destiny and the genocide of the natives.....
And his response to you would be that they are not real Christians. Christianity does not support violence and anyone who uses it to commit violence is not a real Christian
This is on the same energy as "people say that guns have been used for self defense, but they've been used to kill innocent people". I mean, seriously.
lol he also said religion can be used for good or bad but you ignored that. Just because someone says they are Christian but are doing things contrary to the Bible … they aren’t Christians. Christian is defined by what’s in the Bible not because your neighbor does bad things and claims christianity
Allah also said in the holy Quran. (that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the earth - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.)
Use your logic. Anyone who follows the Quran and hadiths are a muslim. So when you read the Quran like you reading a bible its talking mainly about the people who follow the book. When it says believers its talking about Muslims anyone outside it are non-muslims. If non-muslims attack you just like that no substantial evidence, you have the right to fight back but not like that, killing civilians who are not involved including woman elderly, children etc. The quran doesn't permit killing people who follow different religion. In fact we have an ENTIRE CHAPTER implying that you don't kill because of other religion beliefs but be PEACEFUL. Unlike you, when talking about other religions, we have respect and in many cases, we as Muslims talk to the christian scholars of their opinion to get an understanding before preaching on the religon like taking a single verse without context and saying we know the entire 604 pages?
@sdrawkcabUKRead the Old Testament. Those books have their good and bad. Let's not forget, at the end of the day it was a written by Men. There's no holy book better than the other.
@sdrawkcabUK????? Did you even read the verse??? By your logic the Muslims would have massacred every city they enter ?? Do you have any idea how many athletes, people of different religion lived under Islamic rule in the golden age ?? At least we didn't burn 6million human beings 80 years ago
There is a difference between causation and justification. The American media try to equate the two but they are not the same. Just ask yourself a simple question. "Am I intelligent enough to understand the difference between causation and justification?", some people are and clearly from this and other videos, some people are not.
These people don't believe the holy scriptures about Jesus they believe he was a prophet but they don't believe he was the son of God ,who died on the cross and Rose the third day .Jesus came to prove that the world is wrong about sin
People can't even differentiate between love and sex. Many have told me that there is no difference until I ask if they love their children or parents?
That verse is clearly saying "you're ONLY allowed to fight back against who is fighting you".. Plz relating to religious matters, give an extra five seconds understanding it. Self defense is your right, you have the option to forgive.
I can't be mad at people rising against oppression, knowing what my people have been through and continue to go through here at home. White shirt is a real one. ✌🏾
lets talk about how in 2017 palestinian marched to the gaza borders unarmed in a peaceful protest against the israeli occupation and got shot by idf snipers in the thousands. even children. what do you want these people to do.
@@MadAtMax.300Blackoutyeah well it’s depressing as hell that with two incomes owning a home as a 30 year old is basically a pipe dream because houses that cost 130k brand new in 1988 (where I grew up) now costs around 600k, and last I checked wages haven’t raised enough across the board not just minimum wage to counter that at all. I would get a literal shithole for 130k right now. It’s also hard when everything is so politically charged and the reason is largely due to social media which we are never going back obviously. I think to that because during my teen years it was still Nokia phones and black and white snake was the only use it had outside of calling someone compared to the major shift in how people interact and everything today, sure there were people who spent all their time on a PC but still it was different because literally everyone is now with the computer in their hand. The pandemic definitely changed a lot, I guess I’m just saying it is definitely hard for a lot (way more then probably would admit) knowing america doesn’t feel the same and to us at least never will again and for many different reasons and not just politics or anything, With technology we are also slowly but surely turning into china as far as surveillance being everywhere and having to scan our faces to get into your apartment building or pay for food at a restaurant. Personally I always knew that eventually it would happen but just no idea how long but then when I read they were experimenting with a facial recognition system at a few select entrances at a Phillies game this year (idk if it was just one game) I was kind of surprised because they are already marketing the idea as convenient to basically lube us up because they know just shoving it in would cause a lot more of a problem. Sorry I just ranted lol
Yes, there is a small group of Muslims who fight because they believe that the Islamic religion commands them to do so, but in reality, the vast majority of Muslims fight in self-defense. This is not a religious conflict as some of you say, and whoever says this has not seen what America is doing in the Middle East.
I’ve been watching you guys for a long time and honestly speaking, this video made brock look so ignorant. Out of love, i want to just make some points clear maybe you see my comment and understand more 💗 As a Muslim myself, i repeatedly say and will say again. All of these situations are not about religion, and they were NEVER about religion. Yes brock, Christianity teaches love and forgiveness and Islam teaches that too. But 1 thing Islam also teaches, is to defend yourself and others against people who oppress and abuse you. Muslims have been used and abused over the years and as a muslim, i can say personally i wouldn’t have done what they did. But as a human being, i do understand that pressure cookers explode. We are not taught to kill or hurt anything or anyone for no reason, that is simply ridiculous and even extremists don’t believe that lol. They just take defending yourself to another level. Wrong? Sure But every reaction has a reaction. And stop calling these people terrorists, because America, Israel or the west in general is most definitely not the victim here. So the act of terror is really none existent Should civilians die? Of course not But when you oppress people for years, kill them and their families, steal their land and resources, starve them to death, support their abusers and fund them for yearss and years just because you are a strong country. Then to start immediately calling people terrorists because they had a bad reaction to what you did is just wrong. Extremism? Sure Went too far? Of course But if they are terrorists, your country is too. We love Christians and Jews. Matter of fact, most places that Christians and jews live in peace are muslim countries. Please do some research and stop being arrogant to what the root cause is. It’s not about religion or that they are terrorists. America, Israel and the west were never victims to have this mentality in the first place.
This comment is one o the sanest. I am very annoyed everytime they mention the word terrorist without understanding at all where those people are coming from. US is the biggest terrorist in the world, along with Israel. Wherever they go, they bring murders and destructions with them. Always meddling where they dont belong.
i respect the guy in the white T shirt at least he speaking the truth the guy in the green hoodie not so much dude doesn't listen what have been said he just talking in stuff he doesn't understand
The US isn't a "Christian" nation, there is a constitution, look it up online. Muslim countries use sharia law, law given in the koran or hadiths. Do you understand the west?
As an arab muslim woman who supports Palestine. I read this letter recently and what he said abt the US attacking muslim countries is true. I lived through this since I was a child. HOWEVER NOTHING JUSTIFIES THE 9/11 ATTACKS. I SEE THESE ATTACKS AS TERRORIST ATTACKS. Plus he is an extremist. It is not said that we can kill people who are not muslim it is said to accept all religions and there's a surah that says this.
For sure it says don't kill all the people,but where it says, accept all the relegion,if you don't have a good knowledge about Islam and the holy quran, please be quiet, half knowledge is a dangerous thing.."the only relegion in the sight of Allah/God is Islam/monotheism "I read it again and again and again..
Thank you for letting us watch you do this. It was awesome!!! I’m 70 years old and have never heard of this “letter to America”. Now, go grab a beer and see you tomorrow.
Learn what the Quran has to say about the freedom of religion , learn what it has to say about Christian and Jews , we call them the people of the book as a mark of respect . That verse you saw there has a historical context , it specifically talking to prophet Muhammad saw , when Muslims were attacked and enslaved by disbelievers, for the only reason that they were Muslims . And even if the verse didn’t have that historical contexte , it says “ to fight BACK” it means you can’t be the person initiating for no reason , that called transgression and is a major sin .
@@marco_1909 you become so open minded that your brain falls out. He has a moral compass and follows it. Those who stand up for nothing will fall for anything and he’s standing up for his faith. The Muslims/activists that I have heard speak on this actually praise Hitler so we have now come full circle where the left is on the side of Nazis.
as a Muslim who lived in a Muslim country while Iraq was attacked and Palestine also became preoccupied in 2003, I am ready to answer the difference between the extremists and resistance from our point of view as Muslims, I am ready to answer your question in voice chat as well cause I saw that you are looking for reasons instead of propaganda
@@youtube.silenced.m I will give this honest journalist interview clip as an example of much misleading propaganda by the mainstream media,th-cam.com/video/kV_A0YIFUiM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wos44Zn-Ap5rhcvM.
I wish you guys would react to a 1984 interview with former KGB agent Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, in which he spelled out in detail what would happen to America and which unfortunately has proven prophetic.
You need to read your bible again because according to God or Jesus (as you call him) it doesn't call to peace: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. Netanyahu called the Palestinians, Amelkites_ his vision is the same as the Bible_ he wants them ALL dead
Fella in the green is very nieve! The Bible has been changed so many times and books taken out for the convenience of evil men. The fella in the white t-shirt the most level headed by far.
As a black American, during the time of slavery there were resistances. We’re they wrong to retaliate to gain freedom? Oppressed people have a right to resist.
Sorry if my English is bad but you black Americans support Israel over Palestine. Do you know Floyd mayweather? Lebron James?! They support Palestine and other black celebrities as well. I heard that Floyd mayweather sent a private jet to Israel, but how come he’s never sent a private jet to your communities in America? Which are full of poverty? Why side with the oppressors?
No doubt
Yeah, of course but I think when it comes at the cost of many innocent lives becomes an issue
@onegaisti give them another option and they will take it. What can they do when they are fighting the strongest superpowers in the world
Peach
The guy with white top you got a beautiful soul I like that fact that you don’t discriminate against people and you try to understand what’s going on
Am from Africa, speaking on an international level the guy in white makes a lot of sense to me. The world is bigger than USA & humanity is all we'll ever wish for. The US is imposing a lot on other countries. You can never know this unless you get to live outside of your home country (theUS).
These guys have caught the very american "we are the good guys" virus, making them believe that even if you cause tremendous pain and injustice around the world somehow you're the good guys.
Agreed
#Fact
I say this as a Native American one of the colonizers first victims!!
Agreed
you guys are mazing I hope I can see more of you@@LynetteA68
I just want to show our empathy for the guy in the white shirt. He is making sense. Thanks, to all of you guys for this video.
hope you read this, I want to put some things in context:
1. the verse of the Quran mentioned in the beginning has some fundamental words in it, read carefully. Permission, done wrong, fight back. these are the main words. before this verse was revealed, the muslims were not allowed to fight back their wrong doers in Makkah 1400 years ago at the time of the prophet. once this verse revealed, they were allowed to FIGHT BACK those who did wrong to them. it is a fairly long story to put it to youtube comment, you can look into the history. (this is mainly for the guy with a green hoodie. It is just to let you see the full picture).
2. on the last part where Bin Laden said he expects from you: In short he is calling you to Islam (you guys reaction looked like if you don't revert to Islam you are enemies of Islam. especially with the content of the letter talking mainly about war it gives such an impression but I can tell you that is not the case, he is basically evangelizing you by inviting you to Islam. There is a Quran verse that says paraphrased " If you meet one of those polytheists[idol worshippers of Arabia] accompany him until he listens to the words of Allah and then escort him to his destination (whether he accepts the invitation or rejects it)." the religion teaches there is no compulsion in Islam, whoever wants let him believe or disbelieve.)
3. The main point he raised which explains Alqaeda's stance is the statement where he makes all Americans responsible and the American people should be considered the enemy and targeted. That is the main difference with the extremists. Because Islam and especially the laws of war in Islam explicitly state that non combatants should not be harmed in any way (children, women, religious sites of any religion, priests and religious leaders, plants, animals, houses and resources etc...) even more so that the religion mentions in the Quran Chapter 5 (Al Maeda) that whoevere kills one innocent person is considered as if he killed All of humanity and whoever saves the life of a person is considered as if he saved the life of all of humanity. The killing of innocent civilians is strictly prohibited in Islam.
the guy with white t-shirt tries to put himself in people's shoes and see their point of view, which isa massive step into finding common ground and looking for genuine peace.
the guy with brown hoodie, I love how you calmly listen and try to understand the situation.
the guy with green hoodie, I can see your honest feeling and protective stance. I can see you're not blindly hating but I want to say you just don't need to change your POV or religion or anything else. Just try to see the perspectives of others. Has it occurred to you that you might be wrong and the other side might be right? you only know when you understand or at least see both or all sides, until then I guess you just believe as everyone of us. good luck man.
the guy with red pants. You are some composed guy. I have been watching your videos and I always am eager to listen to your take or understanding on different things. you try to become neutral and you are not afraid to correct yourself anytime you found yourself mistaken.wish you all the best
The best comment and explanation. Thank you
جزاك اللهُ خيرًا
FOR THE COMMENT
وإياك@@thestraightpath8236
Best explanation. Jazakallah khairun ❤🇦🇱
BarakAllah feekum
The white shirt guy is smart AF he's not controlled by emotion unlike the green
Very true the green guy is an obvious islamaphobe and doesn’t stick to one argument, he once says it’s about Muslims vs Christian’s then he says it’s about land but he never mentioned the innocents of the Muslim side
The guy in the green drinks a lot of Uncle Tom cool aid. Very ignorant. Rest of the crew somewhat knowledgeable.
and do you think those extremists are not controlled by emotion i understand and agree with white shirt but in the first place if they stayed in their religion nothing would have happen they choose to act.
white shirt guy is my man
27:21-59 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣the guy in the green hoodie contradicted himself🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭😭😭😭
To the guy wearing green you quoted the bible saying turn the other cheek but then you say ur American patriot even tho you know you country didnt turn the other cheek and starved 1.5 million children? Clear contradiction
And killed over 1 million Iraqis
Right
close minded people like him are always on some dumb contradictory shit
@AnthonySmith-hl2pq
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25:45 I see the green shirt guy say that Bible says turn the next cheek and that’s the difference. He clearly didn’t read the Bible properly. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13
And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman".
Luke 19:27
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
Matthew 10:34. (I can go on for much more but these examples should be sufficient to educate him if he is ignorant of them or hush him if he’s deliberately misleading)
Mr. white shirt is the only one willing to challenge the conversation and preconceptions. Those guys read the letter but didn't understand one word of it. He said if you kill lots of people you are evil, by that logic you are probably among one of the most evil.
They don't even know who he was .
The Green Hoodie dude is your typical example of a close-minded USA Exceptionalist, been taking in the western "talking points" without much critical thought or global perspective. Also, likes to shut down any other contradicting ideas & perspectives as "stupid" and will never learn. He is probably a decent human being, but will be so obtuse and resistant to truly learn the reality of the situation.
He still has that slave mentality.
#FACT
Well shit then I was about to say the same thing ahaha
i was think how am i suppost to say it without hurting his feeling but u said it all XD
Agreed
The white shirt guy made the most sense. He actually put aside his American biases and honestly considered the other perspective as if he were in their shoes. Respect!
Amen
Amen
I truly saw that too. Great show of true empathy. Mad Respect!!!
And then the others blew up, I got bored and went back to redacted on rumble.
I would prefer being able to see alt perspectives without being accused of being affiliated with it.
I agree with the idea of freedom speech
WELL YOU JUST LOVE USA THEN!
Actually I would prefer they didn't have hundreds of bases world wide, I'm against them funding Israel and I'm against America using Africa (Alkebulan) as a resource bank.
Why cause he sided with your people ? 😂
The letter didn't just "drop". It was available all along. The Guardian released it back in the day. But now that GenZ people discovered it, the Guardian decided to take it down, after 21 years. Stupid shit.
They were told to take it down 👇
Because Gen Zers have the radical mentality of radical Islam jihadists. Look around how many of these young men and women are converting to Islam. Islam targets those with weak minds.
they are Christian and Jewish minorities in Muslim lands
Nope they put it front page after Israel begin comparing Oct 7 to Sept 11.
It was fake then and now
They too k it down because people who haven't a clue are misunderstanding it and sharing their misunderstanding. It went like a virus.
"No justice No peace" is the most basic lesson of history
One time i read this sentence and it stuck with me and it’s just so true
“Whenever there’s oppression there will be resistance”
No oppression = no resistance
Easy
If you bought the lie that Bin Laden actually orchestrated 9/11 then your opinion is meaningless. 9/11 was perpetrated by the elites that deceive you everyday with left / right polarization, federal reserve, wars, false flag shootings, and psyops of every kind. Stop being deceived.
Also the basic propaganda is to convince everyone that you are the oppressed one and therefore everything you'll do is justified.
No your wrong. The world isn’t black and white. There’s almost never a case where one side is innocent and the other is evil. I can tell by your comment that your gullible and don’t know how the real world works. The world is grey and the line between good and evil is often blurred. Yeah when there’s oppression there’s resistance but just remember that just because there’s resistance doesn’t always mean there’s oppression. Many people love to use the youth to further their own goals.
@@Kentuckyhunter58said by a true sociopath.
Found these guys a few weeks ago, but the dude in green is always the most ignorant and closed-minded.
“Just barely started watching the channel but I already know one of y’all personally” smh
U say this just cause he is not on your side
That’s pretty ignorant
Could be ignorant or maybe you’re speaking to someone who has been there, has studied it for 20 years, and knows what they’re talking about. These guys clearly know almost nothing unless some goofy like piers morgan or cnn tells them.
@@AK-up3hx sure thing guy cause people who have studied topics for 20 years are arguing in TH-cam comments about them
@@AK-up3hx what side you on then let’s see 😂
The kid in the green made a lot mistakes when discussing the religions.
He literally did not understand anything at all
He needs to put the COLONIZERS Bible down and pick up a HISTORY book written by AA
@@Shifa1984bro it was frustrating listening to him speak tbh 😂
@@RobertoGarza-be9whthey don’t know their Bible verses that’s the issue.
Yeah he’s with isrealian i just know he doing give a fuvk about arab
Where there is injustice, there will be resistance. You can't oppress people forever.
resistance is against innocent civillians? What kind of mentality is that. Y'all are sick
@@Peaxxchinnocent?Average American!
@@imamahmed208 I’m not even American Ahmad. And yes you heard what I said. INNOCENT. Children or women suffered greatly bc of hamas
@@imamahmed208 I’m not even American that’s for one.
@@imamahmed208 second of all, yes innocent. There was ppl in kibbutz protesting for Palestinian human rights yet they decided to do that smh
The brother with red pants has brains. Remember guys “ Honest analysis is not justification “
Nah..dude on far left knows what's going on. This is extremist Islamic propaganda targeting our misguided youth
@@BigBoss1RI don't he interrupts all the time and I can't understand him
I like the two in the back. They listen a lot more than they speak.
@@myfanwymorris4083yep. And makes weird faces. He’s too Hollywood
@@justinatest9456 not answering.. not taking a side.. is being lukewarm. Jesus wants you to take a stance, not stay in the middle in your false "safe zone"
The guy in the middle was saying "What would Jesus do", Jesus stood against the injustice he saw perpetrated by his own government, he did not stand silent, he preached against the action of his own nation. It is the whole reason he was killed. You cannot say "I want to be like Jesus" and support the atrocities that America has commited.
This! 100%
Yea, Jesus and bin laden, two peas in a pod right there
Which is why I don't support abortion.
💯💯💯💯💯
Who is supporting "atrocities"?
White shirt guy makes the most sense and is human and gets it thank you
😂 complete opposite
America is the biggest piece in this. They have the power to stop all of this I’m on the side of peace
I think the guy wearing white is asking the right questions, he's not picking sides but the others are basically dismissing the whole letter written based on that first paragraph 😂 that's crazy
Exactly
Especially since they are incorrectly translating what the first sentence is saying and have misquoted the Quran as well as what Muslims believe MANY MANY times just in this ONE video!! I wish people would actually read and learn about ALL religions so they know what others believe so they don’t form uneducated opinions then repeat them which then makes others form opinions (based on inaccuracies) about religions they know nothing about.
1. When you read the words of someone who is personally responsible for the murder of 3000+ innocent people you might want to be careful taking everything he says at face value ..a mass murderer is not gonna be the best source of information in his propaganda letter.
2. You conveniently ignored the parts about the Quran being 100% intolerant against everyone else who is not following Islam and its calls for vi*lence and m*rder. Are you a Muslim? If not they not only encouraged but obliged to k*ll you ..and you might get a chance to convert but if you refuse you d*e and if they think are are faking your belief in Islam you are d*ad too in that case.
3. You really dont want to live under Sharia law ..look into it please so you would understand what it means.
4. Mass murderers are hardly the guys who would win a high morality contest ..same applies to their prophet who allowed them to hav 4 wives ..while he had 11 wives - including a prepubescent little girl -, he also killed people, kept slaves, and led armies that killed a massive amount of people. He endorsed r*pe of captured woman ..including "marriage" to prisoners of war or slaves taken from raided villages ..while their husbands were alive ..which goes against their own religion.
5. If Osama would met you and had a chance he would have k*lled you no matter how great and good person you are, unless you are Muslim.
6. Also you might wanna read about their concept of Heaven which is pretty much hell for woman and sounds like some horny kid came up with the idea after he accidentally consumed 100 viagra tablets then got high on c*caine.
7. If you think a good and just God would pick a prophet who has a prepubescent girl as a wife then something is very wrong with you and you should see a doctor. And we just touched upon the tip of the iceberg.. yet this is more than enough to make my stomach turn.
That's america for you, it's like a bull who sees a red flag waving in front of him.
You people really thing those religious ravings have any value to them? You should try reading ISIS manifesto next, you'll love it! People like you are those types that went to fight for ISIS and now are crying in refugee camps, trying to get back to their countries they hate so much. How simple minded do people have to be to let themselves get brainwashed like that... With a stupid letter written by a barely literate arabian slave owner. 🤡🤡🤡
Bro in the green hoodie is the biggest walking contradiction 😂😂😂
this dude is so ignorant talking about islam and stuff he needs to get the mic taken from him
Frfr they're still new to politics so I will give them a pass hope they wake up soon enough with enough information
So many have been indoctrinated through MSM propaganda. The investments in Project Mockingbird has been paying dividends for the military industrial complex since it's inception.
@@nehemiah8090 Give them a pass on what? Not believing in your opinions and views?
@@sezer6200he contradicted himself like 10 times…
It's ironic how this young generation who are the most savvy with social media are also the ones who have proven to be the easiest useful idiots to manipulate.
Yeah, props to them for keeping the 1st part in. Another of kids will just believe the 1st one etc
This generation?
@@cocofifty4The previous generations (Especially Boomers!) are manipulated by Mainstream media.
As would the Younger generations, if Social media didn't exist.
I think even the carter family. I do not think it is okay to just come and react to what is topical without doing some of your own research before hand. Even if I might not agree with your reactions, I still want your reactions to be from a place of knowledge. As an example, before you say America should stay out of the war in the Middle East, please research why they got in, in the first place.
@@anyaumesi8385 why did america get involved? let us hear your justification.
Islam doesn’t give anyone the right to kill civilians, it gives you the right to defend yourself if someone attacked you..
This must be clear to all.
Yeah right 💀
I’ve been reading Quran and let’s not act like yall are a peaceful religion
@@Peaxxch Amazed how can such religion be the most spreading one..
@@AzozLanda because of Islam conquest lol. It’s not a question of the truth
@@AzozLanda conquest and colonization
The green guy is the most ignorant in the video 😂
He is like :
My government told me this and there is no way they are lying
He needs to look up the Tuskegee Syphilis Study to see just how beautiful the USA government is to their own citizens, let alone the outside world
Not just from this video alone, but the previous ones. He just hate the Muslims/arabs so much that he doesn't want to see anything right about them. I mean he's out of nowhere was like "Israel is right" without having any knowledge about the Palestinians struggle unlike his friends who tried to search and understand. And even after it was proven many times that Israel did war crimes and they're racist and genocide them and whatever bad thing you can think of for like 70+ years he still try to justify for them.
Now in this video he immediately attacks with accusations of being terrorist justifier his friend when he try to view things from the other side. 🙃
I think the red pants and white shirt are very good people at core and being ignorant about history didn't make them arrogant and hateful. They didn't become like him which prove they're good inside they just need to knowledge. He on the other side will not change his behaviour even with the knowledge because he's the type to believe whatever he want not whatever is true.
They need to get away from the him.
Now I understand why the guy in the green hoodie immediately agreed with Israel, he is completely uninformed and thinks that Muslims would kill him because he is a Christian. He even says it in the video and claims that all „non believers“ will be killed if you don't change your religion, which is not true. The Koran says that everyone can decide for themselves whether they convert to Islam or not and only Allah and no one else can guide them. Thats the reason why That is also the reason why the American people in this letter are not forced to pray to Islam. The reason for the invitation is simple: Muslims believe that anyone who does not accept Islam will not come to God, i.e. go to hell. Since you don't want anyone's hell, you invite people to the true religion, but if you are convinced of your religion, you can refuse the invitation without being forced. Then he is asked what he would do if other people attacked him and killed his mother or father. First he acts as if he were as powerful as Jesus and claims he would turn the other cheek, then he realizes that he is just a man And just like Bin Laden and Fetan would take revenge on the murderers. Then he says it's just his human side that would take revenge, but he realizes that he's only human and that's exactly why he would seek revenge. Instead of blaming the attacker and saying that the guilty party is the one who attacked first and killed the other's friends or family. That's why I lack empathy with the guy with the green hoody and that's also the reason why I only understand the guy in the white top, because he, like me, wants to remain neutral and thinks what would I do if it were just for no reason someone attacks and kills my family??
@@SaracenSky what an awful person.
@@SaracenSky just stop. You are making baseless judgements based on a person you don’t know personally. And lets be honest muslims not all been participating in violent behaviors these past years. Nigeria for example Muslims/Arabs are terrorizing christian nigerians are those in opposition to their beliefs. How about you learn to educate your self on international affairs before virtual signaling talking points. No one is innocent in these baseless wars
"Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
(Quran 60:8)"
No we don’t wake up random day and choose violence ❤
Alhumdullilah
Alhamdullah ❤
please edit your comment and add the reference of that ayah sister, they should know its from Quran and can you please also let me know the verse reference
This is from Quran (islam holy book)
I know it
“Bible says to turn the other cheek”
And Jesus said “all who refuse to obey me, bring them before me and *slay them* in my presence”
Luke 19:27
Dude in the green really think he knows what he’s talking about and it’s pissing me off
The guy in white has a mind of his own and I’m glad he’s not merely parroting other zombied talking points nor going with the herd.
My boy in the green is TRIPPING 😂
Please read a book
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the guy on green is the devil himself🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What his fb or instagram he had me tight when he said in the bible it says turn the other cheek but he dnt kno is in the Old Testament it’s says a eye for a eye
The guy in green will forever be a slave. He has that slave mentality.
True
As an Arab Muslim, there is a simple clarification.
Word"Taghutat" It means the oppressor and the tyrant
You must know its meaning first
In Islam, it is forbidden to kill civilians, even if their government is bad, and the text he mentioned has been interpreted differently
Infadels?
@@Shawney-jf6kc CONTEXT: the verse is actually referring to the pagan arabs at that time, who had committed atrocities against the early Muslim community_ its NOT referring to you or other people presently
Quran 5:82_ You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.
Commentary: CONTEXT : this is referring to certain Jewish tribes who backstabbed the Muslims, by siding with the pagan Arabs_ this is not referring to all Jews at the time or even now_ see another example of this:
Quran: [2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.
Exactly
Americans won’t agree with you because they have been fed with propaganda for years 😂😂
@@Shawney-jf6kcmeaning someone who know the truth and hide it , it doesn’t mean unbelievers .. stop mis translating the word
dude with white tshirt is logical n sees what it is
Do you support lgbtq?
nah he fails to seek facts and instead lets his emotion take ahold of him
Black Americans should know better since they have been slaved since the late 1700s and only got their right to vote in 1870.
what is happening to the Palestinians is inhumane and should stop.
My guy in green is brainwashed to death lmao 😂
And the sad thing is he's completely oblivious to it. He thinks he holds a fountain of knowledge and is God's gift to mankind.
give an example like which part?
@@ebenezer7564 26:20 for example,he just keeps emphasizing that the religion is the cause,like he didn't listen to a word from the letter.
or when he said his religion says turn the other cheek ...homie forgot about the crusaders or let alone in recent history what they did to iraq as a retaliation lol
A lot of Americans are
The guy in green was anti even before he heard it. Thats not how you should deal with politics and religion. Its about truth and not about what you like to be true. Man up bro. Dont let emotions lead you.
You don't need a religious text to "teach" you to retaliate against your oppressors lol
well said
@@Jkief123Only Allah can decide if someone becomes Muslim, there is no compulsion in religion. Islam doesn’t say to Islamist the world, only Allah can do that if he wishes
Human nature needed to be guided!!!!!
@@Jkief123 same can be said about any other philosophy and atheism.
@@YeniuOjiak well I mean if we attached every bad the US, the Germans, the Belgians, the French, the English have done in this world to “Christians” terrorism will look like a piece of cake
I am 41 years old and have no kids.
Gen Z is out of this world on so much!!
Every one needs to educate themselves. Due to education in states that couldn't afford to give history on a good level. In Illinois a small town i had to grow up in and wasnt born there, our school, was poorly funded. The generations to come after my class graduating wouldn't get very much education.
Please keep education alive and keep educating yourself.
😅The green guy gives me whiplash. Reminds me of the verse “And those who do not believe, in the their ears is deafness and it is upon them blindness. Those are being called from a distant place”.
Like is he even listening 😂😂
factssssssss
I agree, he is the least knowledgeable about anything
@@faizagatur3308i know right!! And he was saying like christianity teaches love and respect of other beliefs 😂 like seriously did he ever open an bible
Bro said extremists are evil who are killing a group of people so loud with all confident and then forgot "Indigenous peoples of the Americas" and what Israel did in 1948 and 1967 .. and what USA did to Iraq in the name of evil 😂😂😂😂
@@AK-jh1ol i don’t know why , like you see them discuss what oussama benladin did if it was right or wrong ? But like why not discuss if America was right to attack the countries he mentioned in his letters ! And if its wrong why isn’t it called a terrorist state?
My man on the far right is an intellectual. He is so patient with the guys interrupting and yelling over each other. Love these dudes, and if they can learn not to talk over each other, they can be great!
white shirt has consistently been the GOAT in these past few vids. pls keep doing what ur doing. you have a good head on your shoulders
Hes going only off emotions not truth or logic.
What is the truth and the logic ? For me we 99% of the muslim believe that these attacks on USA civilians are (haram) mean it is a sin and we condem him for doing that and for missexplain our religion and missexplaining the verses of our book.
But in case of palestine, palestinian were under continuous attack everyday for the last century by the west and they always creat a cause for it.
In this war they fabricated many incidence that happened on that day to boil the people up like the babies story attack and they exagreated some horrbile incidence that happened for sure without saying that the other side also is doing the same actions of these incidence 24/7 for the last 75 years against them.
And to show that they were intentionally attacking civilians as targets to kill but that is not true, yes there are some soilders who did horrible stuf but their ideology on targeting civilians is different and does not include it and we can see that in their speech and their repsenters as they don't justify it and they say these actions are nit of our religion not like osama and his ideology that did it.
Their secondary objective after targeting military points was taking as many hostages as they can whether they are civilians or not to exchange them with 6000 palestinian prisoners who are under (administrtive detain law) of israel. Those prisoners are from different ages including kids in jails without a case or a representation infront of a court and they stay for 2 months to 8 years. So those are hostages too but with a legalized system by israel. Iam not taking about those who are in israeli prison under a case or a crime.
Iam talking about the adminstritive detaintion that you could read about which the reason for the hostage situation, when you discover new things about a war cause then you have to understand that they were lying to you and not showing you the whole picture
Just get out of other people's countries 🙄 it's not that hard...
historically illiterate I see. The first islamic jihad was declared on the US in 1801, it's not hard.
🌱 Truth 💯🍃
Palestinians need to go. They are Arabs. Glad you agree.
I agree for the most part but do you think we should have fought in WW2 or just stayed out of other countries?
@@doodoo871 i think there are always shady deals and alliances not fully disclosed in the history we were taught.
Its SO clear to me the debt is so high the US & Co are deliberately pushing for ww3 one way or another that's how they will be able to push the reset button
Sadly I don't think things will go the way they hope. Most importantly the public never asked for any of this had they trully understood what the government is deliberately pushing for they would have gone against them a long time ago
It is what it is I'am preparing mentally, phisically and spiritually becouse it's coming! 🤷🏾♀️
Apparently the dude with the white hat at the back knows islam more than its believers, how funny. Hearing him makes me mad but at the same time can’t blame him when that’s all they been learning. He truly describes the action of “brainwash”. We muslims don’t fight just coz u don’t believe in our god as we believe in what Quraan says “you have your own beliefs and we have ours” which literally means that we don’t care about ur religion and we don’t fight just coz u don’t believe in ours. We fight as it says in Quraan when u guys fight first. Please understand this point. No human alive ever been attacked first and just kept watching not even u Mr. Believing in love and give the other cheek for the attacker.
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Exactly they terrorised the ENTIRE middle east over 3million killed INNOCENT NORMAL CITIZENS combined NOT including 75+ years of Palestinians killed... typical EUROPEAN and now AMERICAN COLONISERS think they can terrorise people without resistance even NELSON MANDELA RESISTED and was called a terrorist
As Muslim I have never seen in Quran verse saying kill innocent disbelievers , but disbelievers who attacked you which means killing your family destroyed your economic.
So did babies attack Gaza? I mean it was little babies whose heads were chopped off and dismembered. I mean Hamas attacked a festival during a religious Jewish holiday and then kidnapped and beheaded people, raped women, were parading dead bodies in the streets as the citizens of Gaza spit on the corpses and threw things at them... Does Allah command all of that? I didn't see any videos other than the fake ones that Hamas created with dummies in stretchers to make it look like a dead Muslim. They claim Israel bombed a hospital and that was a lie. HAMAS bombed the parking lot of a hospital and there weren't any mass casualties. So answer my question? Islam isn't about killing innocent people so why did Hamas attack innocent people? Your lies don't stand. It contradicts itself. Just like your Quran and your prophet
you are correct sir.
60:8 Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly
Islam defended itself right across the Middle East, all the way into to Asia, Africa and Europe lol
@@enemysub9057 no it spread because it is the truth and that is mentioned in the Quran.
@@Mikesco10 No it didn't spread because it's true and what you just said constitutes circular logic which is a logical fallacy.
You guys this is not in our book (quran) never in the quran it says go and kill innocent kids, woman etc. There is a verse is the quran that speaks about fighting yes and alot of people take this out of context. The verse about fighting is about the battle field where they where fighting at that time.
Bin laden was the son of an extremely wealthy businessman and he had a privileged upbringing. Bin laden financially supported islamic freedom fighters against the invasion of Afghanistan. When the soviets withdrew, bin laden went on with jihad (holy war) against the west.
Please read up on the full history of bin laden’s background and life. I believe his words are to manipulate.
Enough Already by Scott Horton is a must read. It does a fantastic job at explaining the background and the US terrorism wars
Just to clarify something, the word jihad in Arabic doesn't mean holy war so please don't change the meaning of the arabic language...I know you have been brainwashed by your media to understand things for not what they really are but still....Jihad means "to struggle"...and in Islam it means to literally struggle in the cause of Allah and there are two types of Jihad: the first and biggest one is to literally study, work, seek knowledge and stuff like that but the good of the people and with Allah in mind...the second one and it's the smaller type of Jihad is to fight for justice (what you would consider holy war but still it's not the meaning of the word on itself) it's just that it's another type of struggle in the name of god...and obviyit doesn't mean Terr*rism or killing civilians, it has laws and rules to it, and that stuff is forbidden in Islam (and ven buildings, trees and stuff like that shouldn't be affected in these cases.....this is just to clarify a little bit since I always see these words thrown out lightly without people knowing their true meaning....and obviously we don't always mean the Islamic meanings of the word when we use it, since it's just another commons word in Arabic and it's also used casually for trivial stuff.. it's also a name in Arabic so you will find some people having their first name be Jihad
My apologies, thank you for your clarification.
The Bin-Laden's are an extremely large and rich family. They had literally shut down all flights on 9/11 except for a few that were the Bin-Laden family flying back home to Saudi Arabia. They are extremely connected.
Thats why that first letter sounded like crap to me soon as they started reading 😂😂😂
Don't forget the dancing Israeli's that were flown out 24 hours after being arrested
Yea connection with bush
That is a lie. There were no Israelis involved.@@JohnMarat
Just to explain that verse as a Muslim myself it says: God had given permission for Muslims that are wronged to fight back.
Simple, you don’t start agression but if your wronged then you have the permission to fight back.
By the way, personally plus big scholars in Islam already said bin Laden’s explanation of these verses are wrong and his position is wrong and they even called him ‘’ a misguided individual’’ back in the 90’s when no one knew anything about him outside the Middle East.
It's the 2nd amendment
no one knew him putsids of the middle east? THAT IS A LIE. students we having discussions about him in the 80s.
@Joe-no7gs what do u mean ?! I didn’t get it
@@JennHayden how did u know about him in the 80’s when even us in the Middle East we didn’t know the guy !!
The first time people started hearing about him was during the 1991 gulf war (and not many by the way) just because he threatened both the Saudi Arabia and American Governments back then but no one really took his threats seriously !
agree. Same thing could be said about verse in the bible about going in and slaying all the women and children etc.
That's not a fake latter ; it was another letter written during Obama era.
The Qur’an says, “You have your religion and we have our religion,” meaning if you do not want to be a Muslim, you have freedom of choice and we live in peace. We will not fight you. Many of the media distort Islam. Search for Islam, read about it yourself, and prostrate yourself to the whole truth.
No compulsion in religion
Quran 2:256
Sure buddy. Christians can’t practice their religion in Muslim countries and are persecuted
@JackD89 absolute BS_ please find a muslim and talk to them to get a bit of knowledge before posting lies
@JackD89 wiki Dhimmi_ sorry mate its 2am here, and I need to go to sleep _ got work in the morning
That mean that Osama wasn't going exactly with the Quran . Saying America should and have to convert to Islam.
The white t-shirt homie is awesome he knows the wrongs and rights he follows his heart and mind he just cant explain himself the right way
They don’t let him explain but he’s always correct this man sees the truth through so much bullshit
You guys have soooo many misconceptions about Islam and it’s teachings. Please have a convo with Sheikh Uthman from the one message foundation TH-cam channel. He’s from Cali he’s chill asf and can explain things in a comprehensive way. Trust, it would go viral
Im sure the green one didn't feel what the black people went through in the past that's why he's so loyal and faithful to his ignorance
the guy with the white shirt is based and have a good heart
your dad too
I am Muslim, It's your right to fight combatant. There is a very well-known verse of Quran that states "And the retribution for an evil act is an evil one like it, but whoever pardons and makes reconciliation - his reward is [due] from Allah. Indeed, He does not like wrongdoers.” (Quran 42:40). But It's very complicated issue because the pardon is favoured and god hate wrongdoing. Islam is a thousand and half year old religion with huge number of Islamic theology books, So The interpretation of Quran is very wide and sometimes look conflicting. So I don't encourage you to know about Islam from extremists.
You can say what you want if you didn't try to learn about Islam openly, I was taught Islamic lessons of peace and empathy. @Joe-no7gs
@Joe-no7gs why do you feel the need to spread unnecessary hate?
Sounds very similar to to MLK's, "Hate begets hate; violence begets violence; toughness begets a greater toughness". Basically, violence is endless cycle that will keep rotating. I agree, pardon and peace should be taken, and the even greater question, by whom? It's definitely a complicated situation. I personally see both sides living among peace as long as the PA doesn't push the hate of jews, and both sides look toward understanding rather than fear and hate (Goes for both Israeli's and Palestinian's). I definitely have respect for Islam for viewing all (Including Jesus) as prophets of allah, peace be upon him. I just don't understand how people can support those who rape others. I fully believe that Gazan and Israeli teens are curious and excited to meet each other and work toward peace, but their governments (Izrael and an unfortunately Hamas run government) don't look toward peace. Peace negotiations have been extremely discriminative toward one side when offered by the other, which obviously will never work. Overall, it's just sad
@Joe-no7gsI mean the Bible is no better. Not only that, money is the king and millions have been killed by America for shareholders profits. Money and religion are the two biggest problems on this planet.
@Joe-no7gsbook isnt responsible for anything , people are. Extremists would find different ideas to justify their wrongdoings
Palestinians are not all Muslims; they include Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Originally, they aspired to establish a state where people of different faiths could coexist as thousand of years befor. However, this vision was disrupted when Jewish settlers from the West arrived and began forcefully displacing and harming everyone who wasn't Jewish. They invited all Jews to settle in their newly acquired homes. Despite Palestinians' continuous cries and complaints, their pleas went unanswered for so long that they felt compelled to communicate with the perpetrators in the only language they seemed to understand: violence
Only a small portion of them are Christian and Jewish. Most are Muslim. Let’s not act like they evenly split
@@Warum.2439 the Christian population has dramatically decreased since the Zionist occupation, because many have died or fled. For reference just look up Palestinian a Christian there’s a great video on it by a Palestinian priest. For example, Bethlehem was predominantly Christian population was above 80% Christian I think now it’s around 12% Christian. And that is all thanks to the Zionist occupation.
@@Warum.2439 that's the thing mate. all Palestinians whatever their religion didn't want to separate and devide their country, they wanted to live in this country and coexist with equal rights, that's why Gigi'h Hadid's grandfather shared his home with an imegrant Jew before he locked him out and expelled him. and rob them, it's not complicated, it's a foreign terrorist gang that took over a country and killed and expeled everyone not connected to them and naed it isnotreal
Guy in the green got his degree from toaster
I appreciate that you all kept the fake letter in. Combating fake news is one of the major battles we face today. Your level of transparency not only demonstrates your integrity but also serves as an example to everyone to check their sources. The information war is real, and propaganda is everywhere. The best we can do is try to decipher the truth from the lies and raise awareness about both.
that is from a ,.gov webt site though ? I understand it may be fake but that brings up more questions
@@Am.96 there are 2 it seems, "letter to america" and "to the american peoeple" one is written later during obama ? not sure
There's 2, one came after Obama became president. I believe this was around 2009 because he mentioned a 6 year war.
Yeah, they began to realize it’s probably fake at the same point I did too
@@futurereflections4097 its not fake, it is from a .gov website. There is more to this
guy in white shirt has a clean heart, you know what youre talking about
we're seeing the impact indoctrination in the school system is having on people
It’s human nature to defend yourself. No human can see their family get murdered and then not retaliate. God designed you to be that way.
"The oppressed have the right to return the agression" is that really being a terrorist?!
That’s what I would call a freedom fighter, when was the last time America fought a war because we were attacked first, ww2 all the rest of the wars after that we’ve traveled across the world to oppress atleast that’s the way I see it
Bin Laden was never oppressed. 9/11 was not even orchestrated by him. Stop being deceived. It was another psyop to destabilize security in the world. The same elites that control society now with psyops and propaganda. Bin Laden and Bush were just characters being told what to say.
When the aggression is towards innocent civilians then yes that's a terrorist. In war, no.
@@dollop6213 America killed 280,000-314,000 civilians in Iraq would that be terrorism
@@youngrezwarrior Was the aggression aimed at those civilians? I would say largely not but America are definitely responsible for war crimes and terroristic acts.
For clarification as felt you guys misunderstood what Islam says about other religions:
The Quran, the holy book of Islam, generally shows respect towards other religions, particularly the "People of the Book" (Jews and Christians). It acknowledges the common roots of these Abrahamic faiths, emphasizing shared beliefs in the same God and many of the same figures, like prophets. However, there are also verses that criticize aspects of these and other religions, reflecting the context and conflicts of the time when the Quran was revealed. Overall, the Quran emphasizes the importance of belief in one God and calls for respectful dialogue and understanding among different faiths.
The Palestine conflict raging for over 80 years is about land not religion. The state of Israel (Zionists) is accused of oppressing the Palestinian people. There are many Jews around the world who disagree with Zionism. If a two state solution was implemented and the Palestinian people could be free to govern themselves as full citizens this war would end tomorrow as the civilians would not want hamas or any other terrorist group to get in the way.
The entire world would lose nothing if Tik Tok ceased to exist.
Yeah, that can be true for all social media since they're biased and censor what they want depending on which side they want to support. The truth of the matter is, that we don't know Ossama Bin Laden, and at a certain point, I just thought he was a fictional character. The US said what they had to say to further their propaganda and invade Iraq, Afghanistan, and whatever other country they wanted to invade. As we saw with the Israel-Hamas situation, it's so easy to lie in people's faces, Israel is blatantly doing it daily even when we for sure know they're lying.
I couldn't agree more.
Yes. In fact it would gain by increased security from China infiltrating our info.
The entire world actually benefit from Tik Tok being disbanded. That app is cancer
lmao let me tell you the app will never go. I'm glad china owns it. Its destroying main stream media propaganda that unfortunatly the USA follows . Thats why we in europe and the rest of the world look at you as dumb and the school system as failed you. You guys have no critical thinking.
Imagine just blindly siding with a country.
And imagine blindly siding with the most evil country in human history, perhaps second only to the British empire.
What’s scary is this is now censored. We should be given the truth and be taught to see why things happen. Truth needs to be told. We have been lied to for so long, just for greed and power
@Joe-no7gsI mean yes, the US did all of those things.
@@the1prodig432 That's only a piece of the letter, lmao. So you believe non-believers should be killed? You believe that American citizens are ALL responsible and their death is justified by their consent to their governments actions? I wonder what your choice will be if you are offered Islam or the sword, if the jihad spoken about in the letter comes about. But your thought process explains the emerging ignorance in young Americans today...
America is the most amazing country and people like you don't deserve to live in it@@the1prodig432
@Joe-no7gs it is , there's an interview with Osama bin laden on TH-cam ,he basically said the same thing but in Arabic
they are Christian and Jewish minorities in Muslim lands
Dude wit the white tee is wise af
*eats popcorn This got real. I wish more friend groups would discuss actual topics and less celebrity gossip bs. Good content , fellas.
Amen
I can’t listen to you guys anymore. Every single human being who has been oppressed, dehum😮amused, homes and lands stolen would have no choice but to get revenge
I am a Muslim and in our religion killing one person is like killing whole humanity and is a magor sin that will not be forgiven but if we are oppressed we have a right to retaliate... But even in retaliation we have to follow certain rules 1.Not to kill civilians 2.Not to kill women and children, and many more...
Read book "hundred years war on Palestine" to understand this issue..
nah bro, why are they killing people in Iran? Syria? i could go on and on.
Muhammed was pro war and pro destruction and chaos. He was on this earth 600 years after Christ. Find Christ Brother and save your soul!!!
What rules say you shouldn't kill civilians??? The losers?? Every war civilians have died en mass. The not killing civilians is a recent phenomena. Muslims are famous for cutting heads off and other crazy actions. You support JIHAD!!!
@@Fakerealestatebiz they were talking about war rules these u mentioned are not related to war rules but other Islamic laws lets say
the cheaters a man/women get stoned (man who cheats on his wife or a women who cheats on her husband )
gay people is death too but these law can do them in Islamic country with sharia law idk how to explain much but like can do them when country and community are good
and don't have these things as normal stuff and the government should do the punishment not the people Allah knows best
They believe everything the government tells them. Probably got all the jabs.
bro in the green just fails to understand perspectives on an issue lmao, its not necessarily about right or wrong, its about why he believed in the things he did
Clown activities tbh. Willfully ignorant.
Ikrr!
LITERALLY
wasn't bin laden a terrorist supporter?
So they are Republicans because if they had the both sides in the same room they probably would agree on most issues and they say left like it's a sin ,Boy , they aren't well read they only one who keeps it 100 is the guy in the white shirt the guy is the green act like he is in a cult and can't see the humanity in not killing kids in the thousands as a problem.
I said this in the last video y’all made on this topic and I’ll say it again. You *NEED* to know the history and context of the region, as well as what American influence truly meant during those years to even *possibly* attempt to understand *why* people from gen-z may possibly agree with *some* of what was written in these texts.
Hell, the first time I heard of these documents was about 9 years ago when the absolute *most* intelligent teacher at our highly ranked school taught us about propaganda and half-truths within our *own* society (he was about 70 years old, this awareness of the mistakes of one’s *own* govt is certainly *not* exclusive to gen-z).
He challenged us to imagine what *we* would feel, being innocent civilians uninvolved with your nations conflict, being *consistently* taken advantage of, for your nation’s resources, bombed, abused, oppressed and murdered. For generation after generation.
His point was *certainly NOT* that the actions of figures like Osama Bin Laden were justified, but that there was clearly objective evidence of causation.
Compare *that,* to the way *we* were brought up to believe that *we* are #1, that *we* went through these horrible tragedies purely because of *them,* our gov admitting absolutely zero wrongdoing for years, and that *WE* are “the good guys,” always have been, and always will be.
The US government has made *myriad* mistakes over the years that could arguably be constituted as war crimes for violating human rights laws, but we, as citizens aren’t taught about such things, and have been raised to believe that *our* country can do absolutely no wrong, whatsoever.
The problem is, the countries that we’ve been silently oppressing have now been raised the same, believing that *we* are nothing but evil.
*Nothing* will change until we can *somehow* find some sort of mutual understanding, but that’s been made nearly impossible due to generations and generations of oppressing near-destitute countries that end up retaliating through extremism.
Causation is there, justification is not. That’s all I’m trying to say.
I just wish that with the size and scale of your platform/reach, (all of) you guys would read up on the actual modern history of said regions, at least a *bit.*
And if dude in the green hoodie *seriously* still believes this is about nothing other than religion, just leave em’ at home for the next vid ffs 😭😂
Y’all can do better, I know it, and I’m excited to see it 👍💪
There is so much truth in your post. Unfortunately, the hatred that has been bred into the Islamic Jihadists can not be eradicated.
America has participated in wars for money and money alone.
Facts my G
@saehisaya I somewhat agree as Religion seems to have played a very heavy role in the reasoning for the fighting to begin in the first place, but I’d argue that this conflict has evolved over centuries, and is now due *mostly* to territorial disputes. I mean, millions upon millions of people from both Judaism and Islam live peacefully throughout the world-it’s not as though the two religions hold an inherent “hate” for one another, typically speaking.
That being said, however, their religions *are* what dictates *how* they respond to such issues (like land disputes) at times, believing that doing so is “God’s work.”
Therefore, though their religion’s differ vastly at times, Religion is not the explicit *reason* for this current conflict. BUT, it *can* be said to explain *why* each side believes their response to the conflict is correct.
That’s why dude in the green hoodie can’t say something as black and white as; “it’s *JUST* due to religion”; Because it’s SUCH a complex issue with *myriad* factors he’s likely unaware of.
@@jillkearl4382you guys started it first. You whine and bitch about jihadis when you guys created Israel, did regime changes, bombed our countries etc. so we will fight back
The green guy isn't even listening or trying to be critical.
"I understand" doesn't mean "I agree"
Dude in green talking about Christianity not preaching violence, but ignoring the fact that it was used for manifest destiny and the genocide of the natives.....
And his response to you would be that they are not real Christians. Christianity does not support violence and anyone who uses it to commit violence is not a real Christian
This is on the same energy as "people say that guns have been used for self defense, but they've been used to kill innocent people".
I mean, seriously.
@@shariezgg1273 That was not christianity but a twisted version of it.
lol he also said religion can be used for good or bad but you ignored that. Just because someone says they are Christian but are doing things contrary to the Bible … they aren’t Christians. Christian is defined by what’s in the Bible not because your neighbor does bad things and claims christianity
Allah also said in the holy Quran.
(that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the earth - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.)
That was actually copied from Jewish scripture, long before Islam existed. You can Google it.
Use your logic. Anyone who follows the Quran and hadiths are a muslim. So when you read the Quran like you reading a bible its talking mainly about the people who follow the book.
When it says believers its talking about Muslims anyone outside it are non-muslims. If non-muslims attack you just like that no substantial evidence, you have the right to fight back but not like that, killing civilians who are not involved including woman elderly, children etc.
The quran doesn't permit killing people who follow different religion. In fact we have an ENTIRE CHAPTER implying that you don't kill because of other religion beliefs but be PEACEFUL.
Unlike you, when talking about other religions, we have respect and in many cases, we as Muslims talk to the christian scholars of their opinion to get an understanding before preaching on the religon like taking a single verse without context and saying we know the entire 604 pages?
@sdrawkcabUKRead the Old Testament. Those books have their good and bad.
Let's not forget, at the end of the day it was a written by Men. There's no holy book better than the other.
@sdrawkcabUK????? Did you even read the verse??? By your logic the Muslims would have massacred every city they enter ?? Do you have any idea how many athletes, people of different religion lived under Islamic rule in the golden age ??
At least we didn't burn 6million human beings 80 years ago
@@kube_Red_Sea Can you write book like that?
You mention a verse of the Quran that Osama quoted and choose to ignore all the tragedies he spoke about. How honest!
There is a difference between causation and justification. The American media try to equate the two but they are not the same. Just ask yourself a simple question. "Am I intelligent enough to understand the difference between causation and justification?", some people are and clearly from this and other videos, some people are not.
Am seeing there is a dream you always get at night which has repeated several times and you don't notice 🌚
These people don't believe the holy scriptures about Jesus they believe he was a prophet but they don't believe he was the son of God ,who died on the cross and Rose the third day .Jesus came to prove that the world is wrong about sin
People can't even differentiate between love and sex. Many have told me that there is no difference until I ask if they love their children or parents?
@@stevenwilliams1805 😂 very good question.
That verse is clearly saying "you're ONLY allowed to fight back against who is fighting you"..
Plz relating to religious matters, give an extra five seconds understanding it.
Self defense is your right, you have the option to forgive.
I can't be mad at people rising against oppression, knowing what my people have been through and continue to go through here at home. White shirt is a real one. ✌🏾
Wth do you mean what your people continue to go through at home
Completely different circumstances.
@@JonathanSites what?
the guy in green is incredibly arrogant.
lets talk about how in 2017 palestinian marched to the gaza borders unarmed in a peaceful protest against the israeli occupation and got shot by idf snipers in the thousands. even children. what do you want these people to do.
I despair for the future of our country.
Concur sadly and I am the future.
I Don't think there's any further left
@@airyanawaejah2323 We have to make sure there is. In real life. Not online.
If we all don't get that in our heads then pessimism will pay off for ya.
@@MadAtMax.300Blackoutyeah well it’s depressing as hell that with two incomes owning a home as a 30 year old is basically a pipe dream because houses that cost 130k brand new in 1988 (where I grew up) now costs around 600k, and last I checked wages haven’t raised enough across the board not just minimum wage to counter that at all. I would get a literal shithole for 130k right now. It’s also hard when everything is so politically charged and the reason is largely due to social media which we are never going back obviously. I think to that because during my teen years it was still Nokia phones and black and white snake was the only use it had outside of calling someone compared to the major shift in how people interact and everything today, sure there were people who spent all their time on a PC but still it was different because literally everyone is now with the computer in their hand. The pandemic definitely changed a lot, I guess I’m just saying it is definitely hard for a lot (way more then probably would admit) knowing america doesn’t feel the same and to us at least never will again and for many different reasons and not just politics or anything,
With technology we are also slowly but surely turning into china as far as surveillance being everywhere and having to scan our faces to get into your apartment building or pay for food at a restaurant. Personally I always knew that eventually it would happen but just no idea how long but then when I read they were experimenting with a facial recognition system at a few select entrances at a Phillies game this year (idk if it was just one game) I was kind of surprised because they are already marketing the idea as convenient to basically lube us up because they know just shoving it in would cause a lot more of a problem. Sorry I just ranted lol
they are Christian and Jewish minorities in Muslim lands
Yes, there is a small group of Muslims who fight because they believe that the Islamic religion commands them to do so, but in reality, the vast majority of Muslims fight in self-defense. This is not a religious conflict as some of you say, and whoever says this has not seen what America is doing in the Middle East.
Free Palestine always.
These young men says that they are not slaves they don't even know the truth history of America. How sad !
I’ve been watching you guys for a long time and honestly speaking, this video made brock look so ignorant. Out of love, i want to just make some points clear maybe you see my comment and understand more 💗
As a Muslim myself, i repeatedly say and will say again. All of these situations are not about religion, and they were NEVER about religion. Yes brock, Christianity teaches love and forgiveness and Islam teaches that too. But 1 thing Islam also teaches, is to defend yourself and others against people who oppress and abuse you. Muslims have been used and abused over the years and as a muslim, i can say personally i wouldn’t have done what they did. But as a human being, i do understand that pressure cookers explode. We are not taught to kill or hurt anything or anyone for no reason, that is simply ridiculous and even extremists don’t believe that lol. They just take defending yourself to another level. Wrong? Sure
But every reaction has a reaction. And stop calling these people terrorists, because America, Israel or the west in general is most definitely not the victim here. So the act of terror is really none existent
Should civilians die? Of course not
But when you oppress people for years, kill them and their families, steal their land and resources, starve them to death, support their abusers and fund them for yearss and years just because you are a strong country. Then to start immediately calling people terrorists because they had a bad reaction to what you did is just wrong.
Extremism? Sure
Went too far? Of course
But if they are terrorists, your country is too.
We love Christians and Jews. Matter of fact, most places that Christians and jews live in peace are muslim countries.
Please do some research and stop being arrogant to what the root cause is.
It’s not about religion or that they are terrorists. America, Israel and the west were never victims to have this mentality in the first place.
This comment is one o the sanest. I am very annoyed everytime they mention the word terrorist without understanding at all where those people are coming from. US is the biggest terrorist in the world, along with Israel. Wherever they go, they bring murders and destructions with them. Always meddling where they dont belong.
This is so well said and well spoken!!! ❤
i respect the guy in the white T shirt at least he speaking the truth the guy in the green hoodie not so much dude doesn't listen what have been said he just talking in stuff he doesn't understand
Yeah I've watched other videos of the, green 🍏 👕 shirt guy is not very smart.
The white shirt guy understood and was also asking the right questions. Green shirt guy is so lost
@@Shifa1984 he is influenced by the media and letting his emotions take over.
Why is the the man in the green explaining the Q’uran like he understands?
The guy with green shirt is lacking critical thinking. And also talking too much but all nonsense
He’s Islamophobic and he’s not even hiding it 😂
You nuked Japan because of Pearl Harbor, you didn't turn the other cheek
We were not attacking Japan
@@bobbierobinson6269 what???
The US isn't a "Christian" nation, there is a constitution, look it up online. Muslim countries use sharia law, law given in the koran or hadiths. Do you understand the west?
@@bobbierobinson6269wow 💀
Hypocrites will be hypocrites.. that’s why judgement day will be real
As an arab muslim woman who supports Palestine. I read this letter recently and what he said abt the US attacking muslim countries is true. I lived through this since I was a child. HOWEVER NOTHING JUSTIFIES THE 9/11 ATTACKS. I SEE THESE ATTACKS AS TERRORIST ATTACKS. Plus he is an extremist. It is not said that we can kill people who are not muslim it is said to accept all religions and there's a surah that says this.
Free Isreal !!!!!
For sure it says don't kill all the people,but where it says, accept all the relegion,if you don't have a good knowledge about Islam and the holy quran, please be quiet, half knowledge is a dangerous thing.."the only relegion in the sight of Allah/God is Islam/monotheism "I read it again and again and again..
@@shakirsohail1681 you be quiet and keep all your actions and opinions in Iran. America is #1 ….
@@MadeinAmerica504from world map!
@@MadeinAmerica5041 in what? 😂😂😂 for believing that women can be men? 😂😂😂
Thank you for letting us watch you do this. It was awesome!!! I’m 70 years old and have never heard of this “letter to America”. Now, go grab a beer and see you tomorrow.
I'm 57 and this is the first I've heard of it too
Learn what the Quran has to say about the freedom of religion , learn what it has to say about Christian and Jews , we call them the people of the book as a mark of respect . That verse you saw there has a historical context , it specifically talking to prophet Muhammad saw , when Muslims were attacked and enslaved by disbelievers, for the only reason that they were Muslims . And even if the verse didn’t have that historical contexte , it says “ to fight BACK” it means you can’t be the person initiating for no reason , that called transgression and is a major sin .
The brother with the green hoodie is so brainwashed
How?
@@ca8944 i think its more to do with him being closed minded and seems to not want to see from other perspectives. More of ignorance ig
His racism was very clearly on display at parts of this video
@@marco_1909 you become so open minded that your brain falls out.
He has a moral compass and follows it.
Those who stand up for nothing will fall for anything and he’s standing up for his faith.
The Muslims/activists that I have heard speak on this actually praise Hitler so we have now come full circle where the left is on the side of Nazis.
@@user-nz5jh6qr6v racism?
as a Muslim who lived in a Muslim country while Iraq was attacked and Palestine also became preoccupied in 2003, I am ready to answer the difference between the extremists and resistance from our point of view as Muslims, I am ready to answer your question in voice chat as well cause I saw that you are looking for reasons instead of propaganda
Then by all means answer, we would all like to hear. The comments are open forum
@@youtube.silenced.m I will give this honest journalist interview clip as an example of much misleading propaganda by the mainstream media,th-cam.com/video/kV_A0YIFUiM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wos44Zn-Ap5rhcvM.
I wish you guys would react to a 1984 interview with former KGB agent Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, in which he spelled out in detail what would happen to America and which unfortunately has proven prophetic.
This !
Yep!
They need to check this one out.
Yes! I made that suggestion months ago
Agreed
You are hypocrites Israël stole a land and is opressing palestina 75 years "L.O.N.G" you just talking about one day? The 7th? People are crazy..
Fellas, all you NEED to know is Islam was Founded in 610 AD Judaism was Founded in 1800BCE.
mean nothing clwn😅
Look in the mirror you will see the @@zahiraaprilia7754 🤡
@@zahiraaprilia7754to the contrary, means a lot but more significantly, the Israelis where there long before Muhammad and his band showed up.
@@anyaumesi8385 Why don't you give the US back to Mexico? Why don't you give 90% Europe back to Italy?
@@anyaumesi8385go look up canaanites buddy
"I'm trying to be like Jesus."
Brock is a rock.
Romans 8:29
Keep growing.
You need to read your bible again because according to God or Jesus (as you call him) it doesn't call to peace:
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Netanyahu called the Palestinians, Amelkites_ his vision is the same as the Bible_ he wants them ALL dead
Fella in the green is very nieve! The Bible has been changed so many times and books taken out for the convenience of evil men. The fella in the white t-shirt the most level headed by far.
If you are not educated on the Coran please don’t create your own opinion on it and don’t allow yourself to judge it.