The truth of this inombolo has never been found they all explain different stories about nongoloza and Paul mambazo😂😂 now i know it's a lie they are using these to colonize and exploit other jailbait
Fundani incwadi esihloko sayo sithi "The small matter of a horse" by Chris van Onselen. It talks about the founder of the number called Mzuzephi Mathebula. There is also an article by J Steinberg that explains the difference between the mythology of the number created in prison versus the real life story of Mzuzephi.
If you Google the book you can find it online for like R370 if I'm not mistaken, or if you live in Pretoria you can go to the national library and find it. In the meantime I would suggest you go on Google scholar and find articles by J Steinberg on the dynamics of the number. u@@vinoliamojabengmashwayi3540
One thing about inombolo you'll never master it coz every camp has their version of what favours their truce,so this version might be for 28 and 26 and 27 has their own so bebonke akekho ovuma ukuthi uyimpatha loyo naloyo ufela iqiniso lenkamba yakhe so that's y we Have different versions of the truth about inombolo. Inkambo nenkambo ifuna Abantu so for it to gain members kumele baziveze as ibona ababusayo ejele.
Even if the story’s are not the same I think it’s consistent that the numbers started in the early 1900s and it’s amazing how this institution has survived and thrived for more than 100 years +
From what I've gathered so far is that inombolo is one of the traditions that are orally passed down from generation to generation thus change from time to time but core practices concerning initiation and attaining ranks remain the same. Always Dark and Dangerous in how they navigate through blood and semen (genital emissions).
The history of the number has many variations and most are inconsistent. First how can you use the train in SA in 1836 when the first locomotive in 1860. Second Germiston as a town was established in the 1880s after discovery of gold. In some stories the mines were in Pietermaritzburg.
The gold mines were discovered in gauteng, johannesburg and made in Pretoria when it was still transval the president Paul kruger history.. this gang number is the actually the history of our forefathers who were slaved to bring discipline withing the black tribe..
Why are most comments say he's lying? Number is 28 and 27. 26s are privates of 27s amadoda amhlope "umasha nge full force mashlon" then when a 26 becomes a 27.
Every guy that comes to the Agenda network has their own dizzy story about Nongoloza and them 😂😂😂 even Nongoloza will be scared if he were to hear what they are saying about him
Nongoloza's surname was not Zulu, he was Mathebula. The reason they hail him NDABEZITHA was due to his obsession with Shaka Zulu and he wanted to be king of kings in prison.
I see why they are not friends these guys 28 and 26 their truth is different and that's why they will even fight if they were to debate gore who is the founding father of the number each camp has it's own story. Lol I would fail dismally being a member I like hearing the other side of the story and explaining just to bring peace.🤣🤣🤣
The story of inombholo is like the story of Jesus so let’s just listen and make our own conclusions that it because the number is used to kill time in prison that’s it because even this gentleman was this told this fairytale that his telling us and yes it’s good to listen to but that’s as far as it should go.
By far the most stupid story iv heard about the numbers😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 mara nabo vele they believe this? Or he is just playing us? Because they are sworn to secrecy
first train to operate in S.A operated in 1858 (if im not mistaken), but this guy says Nongoloza came by train to Jozi early 1800😂the first mine to operate was a copper mine in 1852. also, uNongoloza's Surname being Zulu is b/s😂that would mean he was a close relative of uShaka Zulu😂 i like listening to these stories, but when you really think about it, it makes one laugh😂😂
It funny how there are a lot of different stories of how inombolo came about. All of those guys are told different stories. It shows that inombolo is just a Myth. I've heard 3 different stories of how it came about and they're not related not even 1 bit😂😂😂😂
Hai this guy could've wrote a movie script and someone speak on his behalf. Hard to listen to someone who stops every after 2 seconds to take a breath.
People must remember that there's two 28 gangs. 2 section and 3 section (left side and right side). So these 2 sides of the camp don't speak the same indabuko hence these stories aren't the same
@eStaR-Nm1Nv heyi FuSek weNa FuSek Suka la Ngithi Suka la FuSek wemhlathi weNja akukho eleSotho la iSouth aFRiCa eyethu mazulu kukhala eSami iSiCathulo la uyezwa yo FokoN boRdeR jumpeR
@@KaraboSimonMokgatlhe I'm not judging him but u can see for urself his just high and he went to jail because of his bad choices in life not anyone's fault
😂😂😂😂 iAgenda network bekmele ikhiphe nama award , uBest phela lo .... Ixoxa lendoda into uyibone ngamehlo engqondo same time
Awkaka maz u Sylvester mofokeng "awung tsheli loko"😂
ay lutho ngeke , akuvotwe lol .....
Tony
The truth of this inombolo has never been found they all explain different stories about nongoloza and Paul mambazo😂😂 now i know it's a lie they are using these to colonize and exploit other jailbait
There's only 2 camps ejele ndoda inombolo ithi izinkambi zispinzana unongoloza nongelekejane kphela
His number story is the worse I have heard so far. Someone needs to put all these guys in one room and debate it out.
Hei, you can say that again, others are saying they were blood brothers then had a dispute. Now this guy is saying they met at a train station
I’ve been to jail it’s real
@@gcinanzima8515 true
The saddest part about these guys who were so mighty and powerful in jail come out and become nothing here in the real world
The 1 guy on the other podcast said psychologist should go visit ex offenders at their homes, they traumatized 🤣🤣🤣😭😭 with this guy I understand why 😂
He must visit the psychologist 😂😂😂😂 strangely he goes looking for cars to steal and not try to find a psychologist. Kwaa.
Lomdoko uyashisa khehla
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂
Ngoba washa lo muntu ebusweni😅
😂😂😂
ngamfaka phansi kwa skirt sa Mawakhe khehla lool
Fundani incwadi esihloko sayo sithi "The small matter of a horse" by Chris van Onselen. It talks about the founder of the number called Mzuzephi Mathebula. There is also an article by J Steinberg that explains the difference between the mythology of the number created in prison versus the real life story of Mzuzephi.
where can we get copies?
If you Google the book you can find it online for like R370 if I'm not mistaken, or if you live in Pretoria you can go to the national library and find it. In the meantime I would suggest you go on Google scholar and find articles by J Steinberg on the dynamics of the number. u@@vinoliamojabengmashwayi3540
One thing about inombolo you'll never master it coz every camp has their version of what favours their truce,so this version might be for 28 and 26 and 27 has their own so bebonke akekho ovuma ukuthi uyimpatha loyo naloyo ufela iqiniso lenkamba yakhe so that's y we Have different versions of the truth about inombolo. Inkambo nenkambo ifuna Abantu so for it to gain members kumele baziveze as ibona ababusayo ejele.
Even if the story’s are not the same I think it’s consistent that the numbers started in the early 1900s and it’s amazing how this institution has survived and thrived for more than 100 years +
From what I've gathered so far is that inombolo is one of the traditions that are orally passed down from generation to generation thus change from time to time but core practices concerning initiation and attaining ranks remain the same. Always Dark and Dangerous in how they navigate through blood and semen (genital emissions).
The history of the number is the history of crime in South Africa.
The history of the number has many variations and most are inconsistent.
First how can you use the train in SA in 1836 when the first locomotive in 1860. Second Germiston as a town was established in the 1880s after discovery of gold.
In some stories the mines were in Pietermaritzburg.
The gold mines were discovered in gauteng, johannesburg and made in Pretoria when it was still transval the president Paul kruger history.. this gang number is the actually the history of our forefathers who were slaved to bring discipline withing the black tribe..
🤣🤣🤣 he's a proper 28 though he doesn't want to acknowledge 26. He even says he doesn't know them.
I ndoda emnyama ngempela le ukhuluma nombolo straight
Listen to the part in 18:21 ......inspirational words
😂😂😂😂 Underrated comment
Why are most comments say he's lying? Number is 28 and 27. 26s are privates of 27s amadoda amhlope "umasha nge full force mashlon" then when a 26 becomes a 27.
Qule gumba fire
Its funny they narrate as if they were there in the 1800 with their different stories
NginguMadeba, uZulu mina kehla. But original he is a Sotho guy
If you follow his story, you'll find that his mother is from KZN... so yah, khululeka maphikisa
@@lenoir7357 okay. Ingane i-belong kababa wayo. Kodwa siyamamukela KwaZulu sithi ungowethu.
Father Zulu mother sotho
All 28 are called Mageba_Zulu regardless of your tribe
@@HALALISANI-xi5tmndoda emnyama hom
Every guy that comes to the Agenda network has their own dizzy story about Nongoloza and them 😂😂😂 even Nongoloza will be scared if he were to hear what they are saying about him
😂😂😂 True
Khehla hayi mphathi wohlelo sicela ubhuti nani number 1 yama 27 isibekele elibali lokusuka kwe nombolo kulapho sesiyo thola khona amaqiniso
Kufuneka kubuye umakhwezkhwez azostshela kahle 😂
I like the way they know this number thing
No unamanga bhuti 18 12 yayingekho nje into ekthiwa stimela kwakungaka zalwa even king shaka lapho
Nongoloza's surname was not Zulu, he was Mathebula. The reason they hail him NDABEZITHA was due to his obsession with Shaka Zulu and he wanted to be king of kings in prison.
True and
MZUZEPHI WAS HIS NAME
This number stories are many😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's up to who is more convincing.
😂😂😂
Ijele elam 😂🤟🏾
This is my Guy!!
😂😂😂😂😂 The gumbafire stories dust me.
😂😂😂
U qule gumba fire
Ayikho lento umlando ophikisanayo?😂😂😂
the nongoloza story hai khona inganekwane😂😂😂
We need part 2 of this
Haaaai this guy is funny 😂so he was supposed to die in jail now thy just realised him 😂
Nongoloza.......😂😂😂
Batho ba limele stru❗Mental health issues🤞🏾
Too much devil practices at jail
Hospitals and jails are satan's playground😩
@@leratomaropola1066hospitals???? How? 😭
Cult
I see why they are not friends these guys 28 and 26 their truth is different and that's why they will even fight if they were to debate gore who is the founding father of the number each camp has it's own story. Lol I would fail dismally being a member I like hearing the other side of the story and explaining just to bring peace.🤣🤣🤣
The story of inombholo is like the story of Jesus so let’s just listen and make our own conclusions that it because the number is used to kill time in prison that’s it because even this gentleman was this told this fairytale that his telling us and yes it’s good to listen to but that’s as far as it should go.
I can see a demon operating in this young man.
Inombolo is just a fairytale🤨
Ulyn wefolo ndoda 🎱
Its funny prisoners believe these stories and live it as if its real, they die for this nonsense.
I cant wait for ama 26 to respond to this 😂😂😂😂😂
but it's true 2️⃣6️⃣members are under 2️⃣7️⃣they can only communicate with 2️⃣8️⃣through 2️⃣7️⃣😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂Kahle Kahle Inombolo Inganekwane That Went To Varsity 😂😂😂People Took It & Ran With It 😂😂😂😅😅No I'm Not Against Yona But Ngizwa I History Yakhona
into engekho sdalwa
Isigubengu Lomjita tjo
Bheka amehlo akhe
😂
By far the most stupid story iv heard about the numbers😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 mara nabo vele they believe this? Or he is just playing us? Because they are sworn to secrecy
first train to operate in S.A operated in 1858 (if im not mistaken), but this guy says Nongoloza came by train to Jozi early 1800😂the first mine to operate was a copper mine in 1852.
also, uNongoloza's Surname being Zulu is b/s😂that would mean he was a close relative of uShaka Zulu😂
i like listening to these stories, but when you really think about it, it makes one laugh😂😂
He is still disturbed so he actually meant 1900
Eish angimuzwa lomjita, angfuni ukuqamba amanga
😂
Nghelekechane...😂
Hlukumezekile ejele😂
It funny how there are a lot of different stories of how inombolo came about. All of those guys are told different stories. It shows that inombolo is just a Myth. I've heard 3 different stories of how it came about and they're not related not even 1 bit😂😂😂😂
Asimati tsine Nongoloza laSwatini
Yashisa umdokwe khehla 😂
wa vosta onahhh
Indoda ebingagezi endlini😂😂😂😂😂
Angiboni ayiyeka inombolo
Ngathi lezi izitory sokuchitha isizungu ejele,
@@saintmsimango8526 exactly talking about 1836 wtf
Too many different historical accounts about inombolo.
I think he means 1900s and not 1800s because the europeans hadn't taken over kzn until 1879.
Phela inombolo is like that, nothing more just fairytale story to unwind and push time
Hai this guy could've wrote a movie script and someone speak on his behalf. Hard to listen to someone who stops every after 2 seconds to take a breath.
Should’ve spoken Sesotho, ke lona leleme leo aleng comfortable holona.
This one is just a stupid junk who just wasted our data saying absolutely nothing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@bongumusashezi469 why watch if its junk, no one forced you to watch
No brother dont lie to us to be 28 your have to sleepwith the 28
Nongoloza wa Mosotho..💪
Oa Mzusotho 😂, I think Basotho adopted something which didn't belong to them. Ka Sesotho ha rena nomoro,
@@molupepolasi3573U ka makala e se le teng😂😂 Our village have kids we call “manomoro”. Apparently they adopted it from jail
imiSuNu yeNu NoNke wemaSotho NdiNi Nalama kaka weleSotho NyaNa yeNu wemhlathi weziNja yele FokoN boRdeR jumpeRS
Sylvester was de bozz.. U wer the bozz.. Traa was de boss kante how many bosses inside jeso
Subtitles please
📌🔨= skongkwane
Can you reduce the Membership fee 😔😔💔
Welele
umSuNu wakho weCiliza uwumdidi weNja uSuka laNa oSuka khoNa uzoSiNukiSela Ngomlomo oNuka umSuzo ukuthi uzoCela ama pRiCe ehliSwe wemaSeNde weNja wemhlathi kagogo wakho
u nani matsoso uthi u 27 yavalwa wuye makaphuma.wena uthi there is only two of gang members27&28 i 26 umtwana ma 27 ngicela usizo
Moliva ntjonalanga!! hham hhanana!!
8 mpela khehla
In 1800 there were no mines in South Africa and Germiston didn't exist until late 1800s and early 1900s after Gold was discovered.
This was during the times Paul kruger.. it is basically the history of a black man that got mislead by generations
Ola njayam
Wathi uMandla kwi ‘transformation’ inganekwane lezitory ze nombolo. Yinto yoku brainwasher abantu ukuth bangaphumi ejele
uqinisile
Ke o hlomphile kehla
People must remember that there's two 28 gangs. 2 section and 3 section (left side and right side). So these 2 sides of the camp don't speak the same indabuko hence these stories aren't the same
Not possible there is one literature of 2️⃣8️⃣
@@the_unconscious_mindthe_le3344 jy is a Frans I can tell anyways it's ayt my guy
This guy is using drugs I can see nje the way he's wiping his nose now n then
Khehla😅
Mara le wena Agenda, sezulu sa abuti, I cant hear anything, o ne a tshwanetse a buwe ka sesotho.
he is half Zulu moss if you cant hear him that's your problem
@eStaR-Nm1Nv heyi FuSek weNa FuSek Suka la Ngithi Suka la FuSek wemhlathi weNja akukho eleSotho la iSouth aFRiCa eyethu mazulu kukhala eSami iSiCathulo la uyezwa yo FokoN boRdeR jumpeR
This one is still controlled by nyaope 😂😂😂
This guy has been through a lot in his life wena you judge him, don't do that bro
@@KaraboSimonMokgatlhe I'm not judging him but u can see for urself his just high and he went to jail because of his bad choices in life not anyone's fault
Whay did he do Bongu, what happened??
@@bongumusashezi469 bad choices in life?? did u listen to the whole interview before you comment rubbish?
Aii bo njalo Judging omunye umuntu. Uzenza ngcono.... "bad choices" awazi nokuthi impilo yakhe beyinjani.
Hai this guy lies 😂😂😂
Do you know him ?
@@faithzoeymarogo9906 no but I once heard the nongoloza story right here and it's not even close to what he is saying.
Uyamazi yini?
No, know the nongoloza story that I heard here on this network. Question answered?
have you been to jail?
I detect no reform here, he will be back in prison soon.
Facts
But this is what the world turned him to...💔💔 I pray he change n stay away from crime
Check his full story...
Uyabhora lomjida...
rest
Uwena obhorayo 🚮
Lies here only lies
Ola njayam