At this point it doesn’t matter what bungie does. They fumble the bag so many times and they never cared for its player base and finally the player base said “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH” SEE YA!!!
Bungie seems to have taken a misguided approach to game development. First, they focus their resources on creating exceptionally challenging endgame content, seemingly designed to demand an unrealistic level of time and dedication from players. Unsurprisingly, this alienates many gamers. Then, they overhaul weapons and armor systems in ways that devalue players' past efforts, making previous accomplishments feel meaningless. The result is a game that increasingly caters to elite streamers or the most hardcore players, leaving the broader community feeling excluded. Bungie's strategy appears to be out of touch, risking the long-term appeal and vitality of the game
If Bungie had decent upper management who actually gave a fuck about Destiny and letting the Devs cook instead of buying more cars Destiny would be in a golden state.
@@deathkage779 it's kinda upper management and it's kinda not...Joe Blackburn is the only POS that really has shown the lesser care publicly...and many developers have not..some...but the whole company basically sucks now and killing this franchise off is their only goal now.
I'm not at all excited for Marathon, but Hardware is in the game right now and it's the best PVP mode, hands down. No grenade spam, no melee spam, no class abilities, just guns and jumping. I was playing last night and having a blast. Even the normal Control Playlist can be fun if you like ability spam.
Bungie has abused the players trust for so long even if Marathon is attractive, the players may have a hard time supporting Bungie again. For the record I played Destiny since the Alpha test but I will NOT be playing Marathon.
I'm glad it's over....I loved Destiny 1, couldn't get enough of it. D2 I've played to complete the saga. I was just away from the game for 3 weeks and did not miss it at all. I like the game overall....gunplay and abilities. I play simply for the enjoyment and I help anyone i can because there isnt anything i need to do. It was a great ride......
Let's see...heres the new stuff coming to Destiny in 2025... Grind for same stuff we've been grinding for and never get the rolls we want cause of drop rate bug for perks... check.. Playing the same content over and over...check Making sure all endgame content is tied to big clans or dedicated having 2 to 5 friends that care enough to play this game still with you ..check Well that seems like a perfect start already...check. Game of the Year contender...check
Ain’t no way youv just said “endgame content needs people” no fucking way I’m so surprised that endgame content requires other people. Grow tf up. Might be the dumbest shit iv heard. And the perk gating has been fixed and they literally gave out free god rolls and you still complain.
@Muppet-kz2nc It didn't get "canned", It came to the end of it's development cycle. If you actually read my comment, You'd see that I said "They're going back to what works." The 2 expansions per year IS the D1 content release model as well. You'd understand that if you bothered to educate yourself about game release schedule models but hey, Details.
The same thing was said about the final shape. And that expansion “made it” I would say. But it doesn’t matter. I love this game, I had some of the best gaming memories on it. But it’s over. Bungie cannot be trusted, and they should be dissolved by Sony due to their constant failure.
I hope the worst for Marathon. Bungie killed my love for this game once they dropped so much focus on D2 and went all in on a game hopefully nobody plays.
Issue I have is their isnt enough things to do week in week out. Acts have 1 day of content and expansions once the raid is complete the content drys up. I want reasons to log in every week.
Bungie really need to make a Destiny 3. Idk wtf they are doing. Give us one more darkness subclass, expand prismatic, we are going after the creator of Light and Dark. The creator of everything….
The story just feels completed. I’d rather wait on a Destiny 3, and look back at this age like the golden age, and our guardians were the heroes. Start fresh. All new everything. Guardians, guns , story, enemies
Destiny 1 wouldn’t have given us pieces and bits of the Winnower if they weren’t given involved in the next game, they are already making seem mysterious on what reveal will build up in Behemoth or post Surge ( Taox a Krill or Yirix: Psion defector )
@@blessedarethepeacemakers.1457 they ended this segment with. He’s just 1 knife of the winnower. That’s dumb. 10 years to find out the traveler was afraid of a soldier of the big bad. Seems more like they rewrote that because they didn’t want to conclude the light and dark saga. Even though it was advertised as the end of the light vs dark saga. It’s time to move on to an entire new story. Let this franchise breathe a little
Sure, the content can be "good", but it feels like the same old gameplay loops and progression systems. The game DESPERATELY needs to evolve. Areas like an actual meaningful rarity systems, indepth progression systems, patrol spaces, and the MMO aspect of the game needs to be iterated on. The game feels stale. No amount of content will change that.
On the contrary Lucky. I think that a lot of content creators, specifically the ones that have all their eggs in one basket tend to defend, or downplay Destiny’s negatives and the bad state that the game has been.
Would you stop overhyping ’The Final Shape’, it was a joke just after a month playing it. There is nothing fun about it weeks after! Which Queen had more to offer! TFS was pathetic
It rather have a series end if the Winnower doesn’t get involved in our darkest times, I’ve been eager to face a nemesis of the traveller since Destiny 1 and that ‘Your Light has faded ‘ the veil of the skull has already gave a certain Easter egg on who is present like the Gardener/Traveller
CEOs seem to forget in the gaming industry, that games do and SHOULD have an expiry date. Fortnite and Apex have them, just will take years for people to get bored. Destiny should have somewhat discontinued after The Final Shape. There should have been an announcement that the franchise has ended. Instead they are trying to squeeze anything else they can out of it. I've been in AAA game dev for 5 years and if I have learnt anything. Developing these "forever games" is not the way to win. Plan to finish, work on something fresh for then. Otherwise you get to a "dead end" like bungie have and it has put their reputation at a risk.
Honestly? Game's done for. Bungie would need another Into the Light type deal to bring most people's attention back to the game. But with the layoffs, and with their tunnel vision on the future plans (such as no crafting), there's no chance of that. Was a good run, but it's going to be a slow painful death for this game.
I've got an idea. Start actually improving the game. There is massive potential with this franchise but it is being squandered at seemingly every opportunity.
crafting is planned to be in the future, the best solution for bungie is making tier guns a lot stronger, and remove enhancing new crafted guns, so they can drop the crafted version of the guns at the start, the armor / raid/ dungeons changes planned are fantastic for now , making the game for casuals for 2 years really hurt this game
I think players/gamers are finally waking up. Though it is a free to play game, even though that's misleading, no one wants to waste money on a game that has not really changed. The massive cuts showed how they truly feel about the players.
Bungie’s big problem is that Destiny 2 is stale and there are a lot of fun games to play. Destiny 2 has to be a nightmare for new players. It’s not a game that will bring in new players. It can only hold a dwindling player base. The upcoming dlc will bring back some old players but not all. Is a new player going to figure out destiny or something that’s fun like Marvel Rivals?
After 4+K hours I'm constantly struggling not to go broke now and even if I'm playing for 4 hours a night I'm underleveled for GMs. Combined with the fact that I farmed liturgy for countless hours without getting the roll I wanted and then it turns out rng and tonics were bugged, I feel like I'm done with the game. I love GMs (1200+, half of them carries), but I haven't gilded yet and I'm not sure I'm going to. It sucks and I'm sad that destiny has turned into what it is now.
I think it's pretty stupid how short the memories of the community are. we had one expansion pack a year in D1. Where the hell were these discussions then? This narrative needs to stop.
I mean they were definitely there. Maybe not as egregious as right now but they were. Pretty much every year (except forsaken, I can’t speak on that because I wasn’t around for a bit) has had a time of the community spouting “dead game” while proceeding to come back for the next drop.
That was 10 years ago though. Lot has changed since then. We’re at like 15k players on steam now a lot of times as well which they won’t continue supporting the game if they can’t get numbers back.
instead of reinvesting the money and try to make an esports out of 1-2 areas of the game, they fumble the ball so hard without the vision. My DMs are open, hear me out, Bungie will want to hire me if they hear my ideas
I see the game just continuing the trend: lower/dwindling player numbers. Bungie charges way too much for what we're now getting. Right now, they're not even maintaining the current state of the game. I've never seen so many errors happening as I'm seeing now. Multiple "guitar" errors when just on patrol in the Pale Heart or Dreaming Citcy as examples. There's more and Bungie needs to get this in hand before I even consider dropping any money back into this game. For now, consider me gone from D2 come Frontiers launch.
Or new Stasis and Strand Supers. The Light subclasses got new Supers, no reason to think Strand and Stasis won't get new ones too. The question is, how much money and man power are Sony willing to give Bungie in order to make that happen? Only time will tell.
My thought is it will be break or stay afloat. If bungie was going to "make" d2, they would have done it before all the layoffs started happenings. Now, especially after all the bugs and player retention/sentiment decline thats been having the most they can hope for is they retain enough people to justify keeping the servers on, cos i dont they have much if any new players joining.
I dont think it can, everything they do has been a let down, being more of the same every time. Things like customizable clan guilds, new(not reskinned enemies) with new abilities etc. Even then its pointless since the community dont trust Bungie at all now.
I really hope Im wrong, but I think they'll do one year frontiers then maintenance mode. They've burnt so many players hardly anyone will come back for frontiers. Like most people here, destiny was my main game for years, bought every deluxe expansion, a little bit of eververse etc... even I will be waiting until it launches to decide if I want to play it. For a company that consistently on steams top earners list, they have treated us like utter garbage. Look no further than this years Dawning to see the state of the game. They don't care:(
Destiny 1 had player retention cuz every1 helped each other n were friendlynnow every1 is ahole n elistist. Plus you cpuld take time off n come back n grind the stuff u missed now it gets pulled n you cant get what every1 else has. Plus all the events are reused over n over grind soltice,dawning etc no more creativity.
d1 had player retention cus unlike d2 atm is was not a super casual game , and is incredible how the playerbase will cry when they add farm or go back to the INCREDIBLE d1 stile aka heavy rng
Its over and it has been for about a year. It wont get better. What we have seen and view as bad will be just the beginning. Bungie did it to themselves and will keep hurting themselves.
@@ThePresidentofMars well salvations edge is simular to last wish so in terms of raid content yes and salvations edge is even longer thaan last wish that all i cared aabout
If in 10 yrrs we got forsaken n final shape and they say the game is still going for another 10 yrs are u sure u wanna investment ur time n money in 8 yra of pure garbage?
Focus on bungie as a company, they need to move from destiny. That what we don’t want to hear but it’s obvious that there’s no saving this game no more, bungie needs to figure out what to do to keep their company alive with out Sony fully taking over
lmao even if marathon is somehow good and frontiers is good, you really think people are going to drop GTA 6, Monster Hunter, Warframe, Marvel Rivals, Ghost of Tsushima, Doom, BL4, Metal Gear Solid, for destiny 2?
This is not a drag on you lucky but it always seems everyone just shits on Bungie/Destiny 2. I think this is a trend for the past few years because it is the player base, the standard layout for the expansions would be one large one per year and then seasons/episodes for the rest of the year to keep things relatively fresh(not game changing changes, but changes to metas/guns). But people are watching videos like this, oh destiny 2 is dying. Then all they can think about is the negative parts of why destiny is dying. Instead how about people stop making content like this, instead of saying destiny 2 will be make or break in 2025. Incentivize playing the game with new ideas. The one thing I will say is that Bungie definitely monetizes wayyyy to much and has a problem with cheaters on pc…. Butttt every game has cheaters, the monetization does assist with the development of the game. So we should come together and stop relying on other peoples opinions make an opinion on our own merit, then when we are together with our friends say what we like and what we don’t like about the game. It’s the process of being rational, a character trait that makes us mature and reasonable. Thank you I have jibbered enough
Even if things turn around, how long will that last before it fails again? I'm sorry, but I am done with this continuous vicious cycle. The masses may be fine with it, and may continue funding it, but not me. The game had a good run, and as far as I'm concerned, the story ended when we defeated the Witness. Episodes have been utter slop, and have given no investment for me to care. Not even the gameplay is enough to keep me. And so far, they've shown nothing as for how Frontiers will be any different. I'll be watching the ship continue to sink at a safe distance, thanks.
Destiny 2 is done. I've not played it in months. Its always the same. Bank motes here, stand here and shoot, bake cookies, lost sectors. Its the same reashed crap year after year. There is never anything new (I mean really new) and mind blowing. Maybe is the game engine holding it bank. I hope they can pull it back but its not looking good.
I truly believe there is going to be a destiny three just not under bungee but under Sony I really feel like Sony took a page out of Microsoft playbook on how they obtained halo from bungee and this is the same play out is going to happen to Destiny and want Sony has full controlThey’re gonna give us D3 because they see the potential and Destiny and wanna drag it out like Microsoft did Halo
Except bungie developed halo for Microsoft, it was never theirs. Sony will probably do what you say cos they own bungie buts its not the same situation
a casual game like d2 needs to change and need new and stronger loot chase, for now the armor changes they are making are perfect and what the game needs, let's see what they do with the guns, if bungie is smart (when the game is next do death like d2y1 they usually do smart things) they make the tier guns a lot stronger compared to old guns and crafted version of the guns tier 5 guns should have at least +5% dmg inside pve and tier 5 armors needs a +10/20 total stats. For content they should do something like contest of elders / coil level every single dlc. For now the changes we know are perfect for the game but the problem is that bungie i weak to the casual cry baby part of the community
Echos was such a bad idea. Complicated story, hard to follow, JK it doesnt matter. Echo's dont matter you wasted your time... Thanks for the money suckers.
How do you spread burly content thinner sounds like no content. Why the 1st four dlc and main story was gutted and no clue where to go. Like starting ff14 for the 1st time but there no community to help guide you kindly foe the 1st 3 dlcs.
This is the year Destiny 2 DIES. Yes why... because Barley any NEW players are coming to the game. Destiny 3 or it's JOVER. We all know this just accept it! Your retaining OLD player's that's IT! Not gonna work. D3 or D-Done
I lost hope in bungie tbh year after year no real change, frontiers was just a reskin of old seasonal model we had. I really wish they made a bunch of new pvp maps that are actually solid n a real Comp Ladder to be shown in game with ya rank shown in game. They've tried doin PvE content as the main thing for destiny n its failing. Give use a reason to stay stuck in PvP, in D1 everyone was obsessed with PvP n here after like 5 games ur tired of ppl abusing abilities with 0 gunplay bow swappers blinding GLs n shielding Glaves. They ruined PvP lowkey with no new good maps n SBMM, the people who love SBMM went from playing 2 games a week to 3 remove dat dogshit.
@@ThePresidentofMars hell ya all the 1s they took out AND all the missing D1 maps that would make PvP community happy for a yr or so enough time to work on actual new maps
BUNGIE has killed D2 by NOT listening to their player base. Stories and gameplay have NOT intertwined for sometime now. Player's want D3 or nothing at this point!
Most people who want destiny to die are the same people who never got 💩 done have not completed a raid or even accomplished anything in the game what so ever and can’t afford the dlc 😂
People are still playing Destiny 1 for fuck sake. You think people won't still be playing D2 after Marathon comes out? Just because you think D2 is dead doesn't make it true.
No won't survive it's not going to and tbh I'm glad cause tbh if you caint keep players in easily the lowest populated genre game wise and tbat being looter shooters then it deserves to fail
This is pure cope. The game is not going to bring back old players or garner any new players. Bungie can't wait to be done with this title and everyone except those that made a job out of playing it knows this. You all know it too, but denial is a powerful emotion.
At this point it doesn’t matter what bungie does. They fumble the bag so many times and they never cared for its player base and finally the player base said “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH” SEE YA!!!
And then bungie simply cannot recover.
Bungie seems to have taken a misguided approach to game development. First, they focus their resources on creating exceptionally challenging endgame content, seemingly designed to demand an unrealistic level of time and dedication from players. Unsurprisingly, this alienates many gamers. Then, they overhaul weapons and armor systems in ways that devalue players' past efforts, making previous accomplishments feel meaningless. The result is a game that increasingly caters to elite streamers or the most hardcore players, leaving the broader community feeling excluded. Bungie's strategy appears to be out of touch, risking the long-term appeal and vitality of the game
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Title so similar that I thought you and Aztecross were doing a collab.
Yep…was about to post the same exact thing…
If Bungie had decent upper management who actually gave a fuck about Destiny and letting the Devs cook instead of buying more cars Destiny would be in a golden state.
@@deathkage779 it's kinda upper management and it's kinda not...Joe Blackburn is the only POS that really has shown the lesser care publicly...and many developers have not..some...but the whole company basically sucks now and killing this franchise off is their only goal now.
Bungie will likely die... Player base has been burned one too many times.
I won't give them anymore money.
Deleted destiny 2 and have no desire to trust marathon. D2 showed me they don't care.
I've done that in the past and guess what? I came back cause I can't help it.
After failing to deliver a good PVP experience in all the years of Destiny 2. How does anyone at this point think they will do it with Marathon?
I'm not at all excited for Marathon, but Hardware is in the game right now and it's the best PVP mode, hands down. No grenade spam, no melee spam, no class abilities, just guns and jumping. I was playing last night and having a blast. Even the normal Control Playlist can be fun if you like ability spam.
no one cares about sorry ass PVP 🤷
Idek what marathon is lol
Bungie has abused the players trust for so long even if Marathon is attractive, the players may have a hard time supporting Bungie again. For the record I played Destiny since the Alpha test but I will NOT be playing Marathon.
I'm glad it's over....I loved Destiny 1, couldn't get enough of it. D2 I've played to complete the saga. I was just away from the game for 3 weeks and did not miss it at all. I like the game overall....gunplay and abilities. I play simply for the enjoyment and I help anyone i can because there isnt anything i need to do. It was a great ride......
You on Steam? And do you play fairly often?
Yeah i won't b purchasing marathon 🤷♂️
Let's see...heres the new stuff coming to Destiny in 2025...
Grind for same stuff we've been grinding for and never get the rolls we want cause of drop rate bug for perks... check..
Playing the same content over and over...check
Making sure all endgame content is tied to big clans or dedicated having 2 to 5 friends that care enough to play this game still with you ..check
Well that seems like a perfect start already...check.
Game of the Year contender...check
Ain’t no way youv just said “endgame content needs people” no fucking way I’m so surprised that endgame content requires other people. Grow tf up. Might be the dumbest shit iv heard. And the perk gating has been fixed and they literally gave out free god rolls and you still complain.
Bungie has a very nasty habit of making promises that they can't keep.
Rather not make a promise at all then constantly make promises that you cannot keep.
@@ryze9153 Right? 😂 Bungie are all talk and no action.
@@orionfrostnot sure why but yes, seems like it.
Their 2 "expansions" per year is Destiny 2 Year 1 with a Season Pass tacked on. That dog wont hunt.
The 2 expansions per year is the D1 model. They're just going back to what works
@orionfrost d1 got canned you goomba
@Muppet-kz2nc It didn't get "canned", It came to the end of it's development cycle. If you actually read my comment, You'd see that I said "They're going back to what works." The 2 expansions per year IS the D1 content release model as well. You'd understand that if you bothered to educate yourself about game release schedule models but hey, Details.
@orionfrost game will be dead and another 10% of the studio laid off in a year. "What work[ed]" 10 years ago isn't going to work today.
The same thing was said about the final shape. And that expansion “made it” I would say. But it doesn’t matter. I love this game, I had some of the best gaming memories on it. But it’s over. Bungie cannot be trusted, and they should be dissolved by Sony due to their constant failure.
Wtf man I just bought the expansions 3 days ago because I took a break and now I'm hearing that the game is dead.
I hope the worst for Marathon. Bungie killed my love for this game once they dropped so much focus on D2 and went all in on a game hopefully nobody plays.
Bring back Christopher Barrett and pay him… bring back the whole old Bungie team. You got nothing to lose
Bungie doesn't like taking risks even when there's not much to lose.
Sadly lucky it is it’s already pretty much done but this is it for destiny franchise 😢
i know what they should do make another banger raid simular to salvations edge
Issue I have is their isnt enough things to do week in week out. Acts have 1 day of content and expansions once the raid is complete the content drys up. I want reasons to log in every week.
Bungie really need to make a Destiny 3. Idk wtf they are doing.
Give us one more darkness subclass, expand prismatic, we are going after the creator of Light and Dark. The creator of everything….
The story just feels completed. I’d rather wait on a Destiny 3, and look back at this age like the golden age, and our guardians were the heroes. Start fresh. All new everything. Guardians, guns , story, enemies
Destiny 1 wouldn’t have given us pieces and bits of the Winnower if they weren’t given involved in the next game, they are already making seem mysterious on what reveal will build up in Behemoth or post Surge ( Taox a Krill or Yirix: Psion defector )
@@blessedarethepeacemakers.1457 they ended this segment with. He’s just 1 knife of the winnower. That’s dumb. 10 years to find out the traveler was afraid of a soldier of the big bad. Seems more like they rewrote that because they didn’t want to conclude the light and dark saga. Even though it was advertised as the end of the light vs dark saga. It’s time to move on to an entire new story. Let this franchise breathe a little
Just feels like break or... Well, break. Knowing how Bungie is right now, I think the hope is basically gone and spent.
Sure, the content can be "good", but it feels like the same old gameplay loops and progression systems. The game DESPERATELY needs to evolve. Areas like an actual meaningful rarity systems, indepth progression systems, patrol spaces, and the MMO aspect of the game needs to be iterated on. The game feels stale. No amount of content will change that.
On the contrary Lucky. I think that a lot of content creators, specifically the ones that have all their eggs in one basket tend to defend, or downplay Destiny’s negatives and the bad state that the game has been.
Would you stop overhyping ’The Final Shape’, it was a joke just after a month playing it. There is nothing fun about it weeks after! Which Queen had more to offer! TFS was pathetic
It rather have a series end if the Winnower doesn’t get involved in our darkest times, I’ve been eager to face a nemesis of the traveller since Destiny 1 and that ‘Your Light has faded ‘ the veil of the skull has already gave a certain Easter egg on who is present like the Gardener/Traveller
CEOs seem to forget in the gaming industry, that games do and SHOULD have an expiry date.
Fortnite and Apex have them, just will take years for people to get bored.
Destiny should have somewhat discontinued after The Final Shape. There should have been an announcement that the franchise has ended. Instead they are trying to squeeze anything else they can out of it.
I've been in AAA game dev for 5 years and if I have learnt anything. Developing these "forever games" is not the way to win. Plan to finish, work on something fresh for then. Otherwise you get to a "dead end" like bungie have and it has put their reputation at a risk.
Honestly? Game's done for. Bungie would need another Into the Light type deal to bring most people's attention back to the game. But with the layoffs, and with their tunnel vision on the future plans (such as no crafting), there's no chance of that.
Was a good run, but it's going to be a slow painful death for this game.
I've got an idea. Start actually improving the game. There is massive potential with this franchise but it is being squandered at seemingly every opportunity.
crafting is planned to be in the future, the best solution for bungie is making tier guns a lot stronger, and remove enhancing new crafted guns, so they can drop the crafted version of the guns at the start, the armor / raid/ dungeons changes planned are fantastic for now , making the game for casuals for 2 years really hurt this game
@@ilredelnulla9837 what casuals? I don't see any casuals.
@@ryze9153 true, the game is in a so casual state that even casuals don't need to play it
@@ilredelnulla9837 lmao it's nothin but people who seem to play religiously
Every year is do or die for Destiny2.
I think players/gamers are finally waking up. Though it is a free to play game, even though that's misleading, no one wants to waste money on a game that has not really changed. The massive cuts showed how they truly feel about the players.
Bungie’s big problem is that Destiny 2 is stale and there are a lot of fun games to play. Destiny 2 has to be a nightmare for new players. It’s not a game that will bring in new players. It can only hold a dwindling player base. The upcoming dlc will bring back some old players but not all. Is a new player going to figure out destiny or something that’s fun like Marvel Rivals?
Unfortunately this will possibly be the end of Destiny whether we wanted it or not….
After 4+K hours I'm constantly struggling not to go broke now and even if I'm playing for 4 hours a night I'm underleveled for GMs. Combined with the fact that I farmed liturgy for countless hours without getting the roll I wanted and then it turns out rng and tonics were bugged, I feel like I'm done with the game. I love GMs (1200+, half of them carries), but I haven't gilded yet and I'm not sure I'm going to. It sucks and I'm sad that destiny has turned into what it is now.
I think it's pretty stupid how short the memories of the community are. we had one expansion pack a year in D1. Where the hell were these discussions then? This narrative needs to stop.
I mean they were definitely there. Maybe not as egregious as right now but they were. Pretty much every year (except forsaken, I can’t speak on that because I wasn’t around for a bit) has had a time of the community spouting “dead game” while proceeding to come back for the next drop.
For real!!
That was 10 years ago though. Lot has changed since then. We’re at like 15k players on steam now a lot of times as well which they won’t continue supporting the game if they can’t get numbers back.
Going into 2025 without updated infrastructure and a proper security team, it is not happening. Sorry.
Prismatic ruined the game for me. I don’t want to play an ability spam simulator. The game is just way too easy now.
At this point it cope to think Bungie didn’t fumble this one bad enough to ice Destiny 2.
I love how they refuse to make D3
instead of reinvesting the money and try to make an esports out of 1-2 areas of the game, they fumble the ball so hard without the vision. My DMs are open, hear me out, Bungie will want to hire me if they hear my ideas
Can’t wait to have all the shotgun catalysts day 1 of act 3 then have nothing to do.
I see the game just continuing the trend: lower/dwindling player numbers. Bungie charges way too much for what we're now getting. Right now, they're not even maintaining the current state of the game. I've never seen so many errors happening as I'm seeing now. Multiple "guitar" errors when just on patrol in the Pale Heart or Dreaming Citcy as examples. There's more and Bungie needs to get this in hand before I even consider dropping any money back into this game. For now, consider me gone from D2 come Frontiers launch.
Warframe betta
Bungies cooked, destiny is cooked, the players who spent so much money on the game are cooked (including me)
i know id love it if they add more to prismatic in frontiers
Or new Stasis and Strand Supers. The Light subclasses got new Supers, no reason to think Strand and Stasis won't get new ones too. The question is, how much money and man power are Sony willing to give Bungie in order to make that happen? Only time will tell.
My thought is it will be break or stay afloat. If bungie was going to "make" d2, they would have done it before all the layoffs started happenings. Now, especially after all the bugs and player retention/sentiment decline thats been having the most they can hope for is they retain enough people to justify keeping the servers on, cos i dont they have much if any new players joining.
F**k Marathon. They should've spent all resources n making D2 greater than ever. They'll learn the hard way.
I dont think it can, everything they do has been a let down, being more of the same every time. Things like customizable clan guilds, new(not reskinned enemies) with new abilities etc. Even then its pointless since the community dont trust Bungie at all now.
I really hope Im wrong, but I think they'll do one year frontiers then maintenance mode. They've burnt so many players hardly anyone will come back for frontiers. Like most people here, destiny was my main game for years, bought every deluxe expansion, a little bit of eververse etc... even I will be waiting until it launches to decide if I want to play it. For a company that consistently on steams top earners list, they have treated us like utter garbage. Look no further than this years Dawning to see the state of the game. They don't care:(
This will be the only update where server is working hour 1 but now body cares or there will be much to break
I'm still waiting for them to bring back everything that they sunset... Also, they brought out 3 PVP maps in 3 years, where's the rest of the maps?!
Destiny 1 had player retention cuz every1 helped each other n were friendlynnow every1 is ahole n elistist. Plus you cpuld take time off n come back n grind the stuff u missed now it gets pulled n you cant get what every1 else has. Plus all the events are reused over n over grind soltice,dawning etc no more creativity.
d1 had player retention cus unlike d2 atm is was not a super casual game , and is incredible how the playerbase will cry when they add farm or go back to the INCREDIBLE d1 stile aka heavy rng
Every year, it’s been make or break. This time, it may be true, but I think it was last year, and it is brwoken.
Its over and it has been for about a year. It wont get better. What we have seen and view as bad will be just the beginning. Bungie did it to themselves and will keep hurting themselves.
Do u really think that we gonna have another forsaken or final shape?
Kind of silly to compare the two, in terms of content forsaken is far superior...imo
@@ThePresidentofMars well salvations edge is simular to last wish so in terms of raid content yes and salvations edge is even longer thaan last wish that all i cared aabout
If in 10 yrrs we got forsaken n final shape and they say the game is still going for another 10 yrs are u sure u wanna investment ur time n money in 8 yra of pure garbage?
Focus on bungie as a company, they need to move from destiny. That what we don’t want to hear but it’s obvious that there’s no saving this game no more, bungie needs to figure out what to do to keep their company alive with out Sony fully taking over
They're so good at fumbling the bag that they'd get the Silver medal at the Fumbling Olympics
(Because they fumbled that Gold medal too)
lmao even if marathon is somehow good and frontiers is good, you really think people are going to drop GTA 6, Monster Hunter, Warframe, Marvel Rivals, Ghost of Tsushima, Doom, BL4, Metal Gear Solid, for destiny 2?
850 still big treyach what 500 people? What about crucible why can’t drop random map for event? Asylum drop if for feastable of cost.
Destiny three would have been the solution maybe
Damn near identical title as aztecross’ 😂
Really hope marathon fails
This is not a drag on you lucky but it always seems everyone just shits on Bungie/Destiny 2. I think this is a trend for the past few years because it is the player base, the standard layout for the expansions would be one large one per year and then seasons/episodes for the rest of the year to keep things relatively fresh(not game changing changes, but changes to metas/guns). But people are watching videos like this, oh destiny 2 is dying. Then all they can think about is the negative parts of why destiny is dying. Instead how about people stop making content like this, instead of saying destiny 2 will be make or break in 2025. Incentivize playing the game with new ideas. The one thing I will say is that Bungie definitely monetizes wayyyy to much and has a problem with cheaters on pc…. Butttt every game has cheaters, the monetization does assist with the development of the game. So we should come together and stop relying on other peoples opinions make an opinion on our own merit, then when we are together with our friends say what we like and what we don’t like about the game. It’s the process of being rational, a character trait that makes us mature and reasonable. Thank you I have jibbered enough
Im already broken. 😢
No bro 2024 was make or break, stop being a simp , let it go lucky jeezuz 😂
I'm not supporting them past the final shape annual edition...Just go into Elsie's Timeline already... 🤣 Her story is just as interesting as Ours...
Even if things turn around, how long will that last before it fails again?
I'm sorry, but I am done with this continuous vicious cycle. The masses may be fine with it, and may continue funding it, but not me. The game had a good run, and as far as I'm concerned, the story ended when we defeated the Witness. Episodes have been utter slop, and have given no investment for me to care. Not even the gameplay is enough to keep me. And so far, they've shown nothing as for how Frontiers will be any different.
I'll be watching the ship continue to sink at a safe distance, thanks.
Destiny 2 is done. I've not played it in months. Its always the same. Bank motes here, stand here and shoot, bake cookies, lost sectors. Its the same reashed crap year after year. There is never anything new (I mean really new) and mind blowing. Maybe is the game engine holding it bank. I hope they can pull it back but its not looking good.
This game just has die it is unfortunately inevitable I quit playing due to the fact I can't afford to pay to play anything
why would this be destiny's last year, they just had record numbers and record profits, this weirdness that youtubers keep spreading is total BS
I truly believe there is going to be a destiny three just not under bungee but under Sony I really feel like Sony took a page out of Microsoft playbook on how they obtained halo from bungee and this is the same play out is going to happen to Destiny and want Sony has full controlThey’re gonna give us D3 because they see the potential and Destiny and wanna drag it out like Microsoft did Halo
Except bungie developed halo for Microsoft, it was never theirs. Sony will probably do what you say cos they own bungie buts its not the same situation
Am I the last PVP enjoyer
a casual game like d2 needs to change and need new and stronger loot chase, for now the armor changes they are making are perfect and what the game needs, let's see what they do with the guns, if bungie is smart (when the game is next do death like d2y1 they usually do smart things) they make the tier guns a lot stronger compared to old guns and crafted version of the guns tier 5 guns should have at least +5% dmg inside pve and tier 5 armors needs a +10/20 total stats.
For content they should do something like contest of elders / coil level every single dlc.
For now the changes we know are perfect for the game but the problem is that bungie i weak to the casual cry baby part of the community
100%
Destiny 2 is already broke…
Echos was such a bad idea. Complicated story, hard to follow, JK it doesnt matter.
Echo's dont matter you wasted your time... Thanks for the money suckers.
no. final shape was. they failed.
How do you spread burly content thinner sounds like no content. Why the 1st four dlc and main story was gutted and no clue where to go. Like starting ff14 for the 1st time but there no community to help guide you kindly foe the 1st 3 dlcs.
This is the year Destiny 2 DIES. Yes why... because Barley any NEW players are coming to the game. Destiny 3 or it's JOVER. We all know this just accept it! Your retaining OLD player's that's IT! Not gonna work. D3 or D-Done
Make it
It’s already at break 😂😂😂
I quit this crap like a month ago best decision in my 10 years of gaming end about marathon it can rot in the dirt whit bungie.
Na its alr broke thier is no saving now
Such a creative title, almost as if someone posted the same earlier.
Very likely to happen it’s about as generic as it gets.
D2 has to go
I lost hope in bungie tbh year after year no real change, frontiers was just a reskin of old seasonal model we had. I really wish they made a bunch of new pvp maps that are actually solid n a real Comp Ladder to be shown in game with ya rank shown in game. They've tried doin PvE content as the main thing for destiny n its failing. Give use a reason to stay stuck in PvP, in D1 everyone was obsessed with PvP n here after like 5 games ur tired of ppl abusing abilities with 0 gunplay bow swappers blinding GLs n shielding Glaves. They ruined PvP lowkey with no new good maps n SBMM, the people who love SBMM went from playing 2 games a week to 3 remove dat dogshit.
If they cant bother making new ones, at least ad the ones they took out
@@ThePresidentofMars hell ya all the 1s they took out AND all the missing D1 maps that would make PvP community happy for a yr or so enough time to work on actual new maps
Destiny 2 its over dead its done pls stop dreaming
Change your title dawg
No.
It's already broke. They better get to cooking d3 or bungie gonna go bankrupt
BUNGIE has killed D2 by NOT listening to their player base. Stories and gameplay have NOT intertwined for sometime now. Player's want D3 or nothing at this point!
Most people who want destiny to die are the same people who never got 💩 done have not completed a raid or even accomplished anything in the game what so ever and can’t afford the dlc 😂
fax 😂
I want to see it break and fail
Bro the game is dead and it failed already years ago. How long does it take to realize that?
top on steam is a failed game? clearly they are still making money
People are still playing Destiny 1 for fuck sake. You think people won't still be playing D2 after Marathon comes out? Just because you think D2 is dead doesn't make it true.
D2 died before the final shape.
Can I have whatever you're smoking? I'm running out of my stash.
no salvations edge saved the game for a bit cause its last wish style
@ except it didn’t. Numbers don’t lie.
Game is already dead ..only D3 can save the Collapse..
Play Warframe bro.
No won't survive it's not going to and tbh I'm glad cause tbh if you caint keep players in easily the lowest populated genre game wise and tbat being looter shooters then it deserves to fail
This is pure cope. The game is not going to bring back old players or garner any new players. Bungie can't wait to be done with this title and everyone except those that made a job out of playing it knows this. You all know it too, but denial is a powerful emotion.