@@AnthonyWilson-mm8rn be quick mate, that 6k discount is running out and this peugeut at this price won't last either at 13.8kw/100km as tested, that's over 350km in range, if you need to drive further regularly... get a Corolla Cross
You can buy a 4x4 MUX On Road for that price ! Scary ! I haven't been off road for ages but I know which one I'd rather drive 20km round to work each day. And, which one I'd rather drive for a 300km round weekend away. Balanced And Informative Review As Always ! Continued Thanks Matt ! #therightcar
Being a current owner of the previous generation Peugeot 2008 for 10 years, I've always enjoyed sitting behind the steering wheel of Peugeot's early design of its i-Cockpit layout. I've never had an issue with it, but will admit the smaller steering wheel did take some getting used to. It's been a great little practical crossover over the years! I've always admired the second generation 2008 from a far, but felt there were better options out there. It's the same case with the e-2008 unfortunately. I just don't get why Peugeot wants to be a niche brand in Australia and only offer expensive vehicles. On a side note, our old Peugeot 2008 Active will be getting replaced with the new Skoda Karoq 110TSI Style in a week or two, which will then share garage space with our Volkswagen Polo 85TSI Comfortline.
We just bought a 2023 demo version for 37K with just 4K on the clock. It drives beautifully, charges in just a couple of hours from a normal home powerpoint and feels comfortable and warm. My wife loves it, especially the small steering wheel:). Daily communting costs have fallen from $7 to just $1!
Always wondered but with ICE vehicles there’s a lot of discussion on reliability (eg Toyota is pretty reliable, Jaguar isn’t). How is reliability measured for EVs? They no longer have all those parts anymore. Aside from stuff like cabin quality, does this mean all electric vehicles are on the same reliability footing?
It's honestly something that's on my mind a lot too. I find myself more confident in the reliability of these European brands when it comes to EVs. How that'll actually pan out in the long term, I guess we can only wait and see.
@@rexthesheep The only thing that separates an EV from an ICEV is the mechanical aspect of the driveline - That is the 'long block engine' portion, and the ratio-changing portion of the transmission. Everything else is , for arguments sak, the same. So you remove that aspect, and any reliablity issues associated with it, and replace it with an electric motor+Inverter unit,and a single speed transmission. All things being equal, you'd expect the Electric driveline to certainly be significantly more reliable mechanically (but not infallible) due to its simplicity, but potentially a bit less reliable electrically, due the complex and high power inverter that is absent in an ICE.. the net outcome I would say is a higher level of reliability overall for an EV , - but still the same old situation for every other aspect of the car that causes people problems, and frustrations, and this will happen for as long as manufacturers cut corners in engineering, both mechanically, electrically, and 'electromechanically , including material specification, and for as long as variations in Quality control at the manufacturing level exist .
@@rexthesheepVery good question. However the European brands are known for their electronic gremlins and failures, so I don’t understand why you would feel more comfortable with a euro brand? Also based on your question… if an EV could effectively last 1 million Km with just minor mechanical parts replacement such as wheel bearings, suspension, pads etc and having its battery replaced every 200,000km (think that’s being abit generous, but for argument sake😂)… is that reliable? I mean the battery is a consumable (at huge cost) and what life expectancy?… and what if the manufacturer ceases to support/update the vehicles systems, preventing it’s intended operation with updated infrastructure?!?
I used to like Peugeot vehicles and owned 2 many years ago. The problem with an EV based on an ICE vehicle is that it really isn’t a purpose built EV, and I do think the alternatives you suggest are better options, without a doubt. The MG4 is a purpose built EV, as is the BYD Atto. I agree with your views on the Peugeot dashboard, I like it, and the car looks well finished. If I wanted one I’d wait for the updated model.
Given that this vehicle is currently sub $42k drive-a-way, even with a 50 KW battery and smaller range would your overall review on it change, and if so, how?
Great question. I stumbled across the drive-away deal the other day - if you shop around you could be paying only $36k drive-away (less in Qld with the $6000 incentive!!) It’s bloody unbelievable for that kinda money.
@@therightcar Are the dealers negotiating on this $39,990 advertised driveaway price? For 36k on the road in NSW I might have to take a closer look. If I was in QLD it would be a no brainer, there's nothing else anywher near as nice for 30k.
Hybrids from Toyota are pretty much bullet proof as its pretty much dumb technology standard, a "nickel metal hydrate" battery pretty much is the lowest standard for Hybrid but its also one of the best in terms of how simple it is, hence why Toyota use it for their petrol/hybrid based engines. Now as for full BEV only vehicles? look if you have solar with battery backup then its fine as a metro/urban/cbd run about, if you rely on grid power with no solar then your wasting your time, yes its cheaper than a petrol powered vehicle but no where near as covenant and then you have to factor in external recharging which is not cheap at all in relative terms either,
We have a Mitsubishi outlander phev 2023. Fantastic vehicle! We get 80 km of pure EV driving per full charge, which is more than our daily driving. We haven’t used a drop of petrol since we first bought it… it literally still has the full tank of petrol (53 litres) sitting in it since we first bought it. I actually want to switch off the ev mode so I can use up the petrol so we aren’t carrying around 39 kg of useless weight.
@@therightcar because I live in Queenstown New Zealand… which is in the country. The charging network sucks. So I needed the back up of an onboard generator.. so a PHEV made perfect sense.
@@therightcarI test drive a byd atto 3 but wasn’t impressed. I loved the Kia ev6. But it’s way more expensive than the Mitsubishi (by $20,000+) I won’t buy a Tesla (even though I like them) because Elon is a twat.
Good to see some new EV options in our market. Peugeot to me is most of the time bit pricy without obvious reasons. This e-2008 is actually kind of reasonable to me.
@@therightcar it’s an American expression I understand. I certainly wouldn’t trade mine in for the loss of driver controls the PS5 mob seem to think is cool.
The EV concept has failed. I believe that at this stage, car manufacturers are just trying to push out the door all their products before the general public know about it.
Absolutely, especially here in Aus. Consumers and manufacturers have realised the greenest solution are the Hybrid offerings. The purchase price is also an inhibiting factor in Australia, or any country for that matter that doesn’t offer rebates or tax incentives. It will take around 10yrs of usage and feedback in the market before the issues really start appearing. The shortfalls are already apparent in environmental impact, battery longevity and replacement cost… the insurance and crash repair costs, battery safety and lack of battery recycling in Australia are becoming apparent. I believe Japan’s lack of interest in EV’s, China’s enormous wastelands of sold (but unused) EV’s and VW groups incredible scale back of EV production are signs of the the failing EV segment. EV’s were deployed by unscrupulous companies to make profit from the “to be short lived EV market” before its impending replacement with Hydrogen.
Just ordered one today for 38,500 DA with 5-year service pack in Vic. It's a no-brainer on a novated lease.
At currently $26K off now, makes much more sense
You’d feel pretty bad if you’d bought one for over $60k
The best alternative to this car is this car for $40k.
haha that's why I'm here watching
@@kdegraa You sure would be. But good for who ever buys now
@@bauboni Ive been trying to figure out if I could live with the range. Very tempting as in Qld get another $6K off rebate
@@AnthonyWilson-mm8rn be quick mate, that 6k discount is running out and this peugeut at this price won't last either
at 13.8kw/100km as tested, that's over 350km in range, if you need to drive further regularly... get a Corolla Cross
You can buy a 4x4 MUX On Road for that price ! Scary !
I haven't been off road for ages but I know which one I'd rather drive 20km round to work each day.
And, which one I'd rather drive for a 300km round weekend away.
Balanced And Informative Review As Always !
Continued Thanks Matt !
#therightcar
Thanks again mate. Yep, it isn’t cheap!!
@@therightcarit now is cheaper.
This has a great design, but the fundamentals such as price, value, range and fast charging rates mark it as an also ran.
You make a strong argument there.
Being a current owner of the previous generation Peugeot 2008 for 10 years, I've always enjoyed sitting behind the steering wheel of Peugeot's early design of its i-Cockpit layout. I've never had an issue with it, but will admit the smaller steering wheel did take some getting used to. It's been a great little practical crossover over the years! I've always admired the second generation 2008 from a far, but felt there were better options out there. It's the same case with the e-2008 unfortunately. I just don't get why Peugeot wants to be a niche brand in Australia and only offer expensive vehicles.
On a side note, our old Peugeot 2008 Active will be getting replaced with the new Skoda Karoq 110TSI Style in a week or two, which will then share garage space with our Volkswagen Polo 85TSI Comfortline.
We just bought a 2023 demo version for 37K with just 4K on the clock. It drives beautifully, charges in just a couple of hours from a normal home powerpoint and feels comfortable and warm. My wife loves it, especially the small steering wheel:). Daily communting costs have fallen from $7 to just $1!
Always wondered but with ICE vehicles there’s a lot of discussion on reliability (eg Toyota is pretty reliable, Jaguar isn’t). How is reliability measured for EVs? They no longer have all those parts anymore. Aside from stuff like cabin quality, does this mean all electric vehicles are on the same reliability footing?
It's honestly something that's on my mind a lot too. I find myself more confident in the reliability of these European brands when it comes to EVs. How that'll actually pan out in the long term, I guess we can only wait and see.
@@rexthesheep The only thing that separates an EV from an ICEV is the mechanical aspect of the driveline - That is the 'long block engine' portion, and the ratio-changing portion of the transmission. Everything else is , for arguments sak, the same. So you remove that aspect, and any reliablity issues associated with it, and replace it with an electric motor+Inverter unit,and a single speed transmission. All things being equal, you'd expect the Electric driveline to certainly be significantly more reliable mechanically (but not infallible) due to its simplicity, but potentially a bit less reliable electrically, due the complex and high power inverter that is absent in an ICE.. the net outcome I would say is a higher level of reliability overall for an EV , - but still the same old situation for every other aspect of the car that causes people problems, and frustrations, and this will happen for as long as manufacturers cut corners in engineering, both mechanically, electrically, and 'electromechanically , including material specification, and for as long as variations in Quality control at the manufacturing level exist .
@@rexthesheepVery good question. However the European brands are known for their electronic gremlins and failures, so I don’t understand why you would feel more comfortable with a euro brand?
Also based on your question… if an EV could effectively last 1 million Km with just minor mechanical parts replacement such as wheel bearings, suspension, pads etc and having its battery replaced every 200,000km (think that’s being abit generous, but for argument sake😂)… is that reliable?
I mean the battery is a consumable (at huge cost) and what life expectancy?… and what if the manufacturer ceases to support/update the vehicles systems, preventing it’s intended operation with updated infrastructure?!?
I used to like Peugeot vehicles and owned 2 many years ago. The problem with an EV based on an ICE vehicle is that it really isn’t a purpose built EV, and I do think the alternatives you suggest are better options, without a doubt. The MG4 is a purpose built EV, as is the BYD Atto. I agree with your views on the Peugeot dashboard, I like it, and the car looks well finished. If I wanted one I’d wait for the updated model.
Thanks Greg!
Given that this vehicle is currently sub $42k drive-a-way, even with a 50 KW battery and smaller range would your overall review on it change, and if so, how?
Great question. I stumbled across the drive-away deal the other day - if you shop around you could be paying only $36k drive-away (less in Qld with the $6000 incentive!!)
It’s bloody unbelievable for that kinda money.
@@therightcar Are the dealers negotiating on this $39,990 advertised driveaway price? For 36k on the road in NSW I might have to take a closer look. If I was in QLD it would be a no brainer, there's nothing else anywher near as nice for 30k.
Good car for Ava/Kris Tyson?
Am not yet sold to hybrid or electric cars
Hybrids from Toyota are pretty much bullet proof as its pretty much dumb technology standard, a "nickel metal hydrate" battery pretty much is the lowest standard for Hybrid but its also one of the best in terms of how simple it is, hence why Toyota use it for their petrol/hybrid based engines.
Now as for full BEV only vehicles? look if you have solar with battery backup then its fine as a metro/urban/cbd run about, if you rely on grid power with no solar then your wasting your time, yes its cheaper than a petrol powered vehicle but no where near as covenant and then you have to factor in external recharging which is not cheap at all in relative terms either,
We have a Mitsubishi outlander phev 2023. Fantastic vehicle!
We get 80 km of pure EV driving per full charge, which is more than our daily driving. We haven’t used a drop of petrol since we first bought it… it literally still has the full tank of petrol (53 litres) sitting in it since we first bought it.
I actually want to switch off the ev mode so I can use up the petrol so we aren’t carrying around 39 kg of useless weight.
Why not just buy an EV?
@@therightcar because I live in Queenstown New Zealand… which is in the country. The charging network sucks. So I needed the back up of an onboard generator.. so a PHEV made perfect sense.
@@therightcarI test drive a byd atto 3 but wasn’t impressed. I loved the Kia ev6. But it’s way more expensive than the Mitsubishi (by $20,000+)
I won’t buy a Tesla (even though I like them) because Elon is a twat.
Good to see some new EV options in our market. Peugeot to me is most of the time bit pricy without obvious reasons. This e-2008 is actually kind of reasonable to me.
Cool - thanks for your thoughts!
Compromised. I’ll wait.
My Tesla has unfortunately jumped the shark.
I’ve never understood that saying.
@@therightcar it’s an American expression I understand. I certainly wouldn’t trade mine in for the loss of driver controls the PS5 mob seem to think is cool.
Why did you test the old model? The new one is already on sale.
Because, as I explain in the video, we get the old model in Australia. We are well behind the current model rollout for a lot of products here in Oz.
The EV concept has failed. I believe that at this stage, car manufacturers are just trying to push out the door all their products before the general public know about it.
You are completely wrong.
Absolutely, especially here in Aus. Consumers and manufacturers have realised the greenest solution are the Hybrid offerings. The purchase price is also an inhibiting factor in Australia, or any country for that matter that doesn’t offer rebates or tax incentives.
It will take around 10yrs of usage and feedback in the market before the issues really start appearing. The shortfalls are already apparent in environmental impact, battery longevity and replacement cost… the insurance and crash repair costs, battery safety and lack of battery recycling in Australia are becoming apparent.
I believe Japan’s lack of interest in EV’s, China’s enormous wastelands of sold (but unused) EV’s and VW groups incredible scale back of EV production are signs of the the failing EV segment.
EV’s were deployed by unscrupulous companies to make profit from the “to be short lived EV market” before its impending replacement with Hydrogen.