The Dalek in the RC Battlepack was Dalek Inquisitor General / Dalek X, not a incorrect paint. There's also 2 possible names of this Dalek, he is either the leader of the 4 Guard Daleks "Guard Leader" or some kind of "Squad Leader" as in the episode he is seen leading lots of regular Daleks, instead of being with the other guards.
@@yumyunrangLOAL Dalek X wasn't a character at the time & his name is never mentioned on screen. It was based on a CGI dalek bc the set literally came out shortly after Series 1. The set "Dalek X" was released in was literally released before Prisoner of The Daleks even came out. Face it this was based on the CGI dalek in the episode, that was made into a figure, then ppl decided that the battle pack dalek would be canonised as Dalek X as if u actually look at the cover of Prisoner of The Daleks, 0 black Parting of The Ways style daleks are present.
@@PedroS1400 Then the battlepack Dalek became Dalek X, maybe even inspired the description of Dalek X. Coming out shortly after series 1 doesn't really mean anything either, there is no link between the episode and the pack. The packaging just states "Gold and Black Dalek". Nothing at all about POTW or the Emperor or Imperial Guards. Character wasn't exactly hunting for colour schemes for Daleks at the time either, they could have quite easily done the actual Imperial Guard which is far more noticeable on screen. What most likely happened is Character wanted to make an RC Dalek pack but needed for people to be able to differentiate which one is which, so they cast one out of black plastic instead of bronze, there's no other logical colour to go with for making a Dalek that needs to be distinguishable without changing paint apps. If you want to do mental gymnastics and try and chock it up to a wave 1 release from Characters slop era to be a miss-paint of a background character that isn't even known to be linked with the Imperial Guards as per my original comment at all anyway then be my guest.
@@yumyunrangLOAL but the fact remains, the black dalek *did* appear in the episode & renders of it appeared in magazines like 6sek said, so CO probs jus told the BBC that they needed another dalek design & the BBC probs jus gave them access to the CGI ones that appeared in that episode. It can't just be a coincidence that it happened to look like 1 that appeared on screen & also all dalek figures back then were casted in black plastic & CO still do that with some dalek parts which need to be black nowadays.
I think the weathering on the skirts look fine imo, compared to the Supreme Dalek from resurrection (which was just excessive) I think these ones better match the props from the episode.
The weathering on the fenders is completely wrong as no NSD prop has ever appeared with scuffed or scratched fenders. Like 6sek already said, people actually give a fuck about the condition of the New Series props & they're not as badly mistreated & neglected as the classic props were so they tend to get refurbished before they appear on screen.
@@PedroS1400 I disagree as the stills from the episode with the Daleks surrounding Eccleston show some slight weathering on the skirts.. okay maybe not exactly accurate but like I said it’s only my opinion. I get there are some purists out there and like I said I wasn’t a fan of it on the Black Supreme.
@kieranedgar7575 that's not weathering tho that's just them reflecting light. I agree it looks like shit on the Resurrection Supreme but thankfully it's less of a problem there as I can either just get a Day Supreme & swap it's fender for that or any of the other non weathered 70s & 80s fenders we've had at B&M like the Death Zone dalek & the Remembrance Supreme. Unfortunately tho that's not as doable with these revised mold NSD's as last year's fenders were the wrong colour & older releases of revised mold NSD's are still pretty rare. I also don't wanna have to repaint the fender myself so that's another problem bc finding the right shade of silver/gun metal grey is not gonna be easy.
Do you have the progenitor guardian bronze drone from 2010, it's slightly different from the crucible dalek, more darker metallic copper ish tone, slightly glittery along with the painted ear cages and weirdly had a glossy eyeball despite the ones from victory and the Moffat era generally having matte eyeballs Might be a better comparison for the bronze tone, the crucible one is a bit too orange
It is budgetary, they can only afford 1 new sculpt per year now and Al wasn’t happy with previous rivers so he wanted a new head for her. I would prefer a new claw arm over a new river head but it’s not the worst reuse of an old sculpt (let’s hope disco rose is never coming back)
At least tho they coulda modified it to make the arm longer. Especially as the actual claw is surprisingly still in scale with the revised mold plunger cups
unfortunately it’s because they modified it to fit the new ball joint that it is too short, but agreed it would have worked so much better if it was a bit longer
@acanimations1223 it's not modified it fits fine without any problems. The chunky mold appendages all fit into the revised mold ball joints as the holes are the same size, so they're cross compatible with each other
Just bit a flop of character using the old sculpt for the claw arm…. They really couldn’t afford to make a new one😕 still a great pair of sets never the less
But at the bare minimum they coulda modified the OG chunky mold version to make it longer as the claw is still in proportion with the revised mold plunger cups
The Dalek in the RC Battlepack was Dalek Inquisitor General / Dalek X, not a incorrect paint. There's also 2 possible names of this Dalek, he is either the leader of the 4 Guard Daleks "Guard Leader" or some kind of "Squad Leader" as in the episode he is seen leading lots of regular Daleks, instead of being with the other guards.
@@yumyunrangLOAL it is incorrect look at the CGI dalek in the episode. All of its midsection is gold & bronze, not 1 bit of it is black.
@PedroS1400 It isn't incorrect because it is a different Dalek entirely. The Battlepack Dalek is Dalek X
@@yumyunrangLOAL Dalek X wasn't a character at the time & his name is never mentioned on screen. It was based on a CGI dalek bc the set literally came out shortly after Series 1. The set "Dalek X" was released in was literally released before Prisoner of The Daleks even came out. Face it this was based on the CGI dalek in the episode, that was made into a figure, then ppl decided that the battle pack dalek would be canonised as Dalek X as if u actually look at the cover of Prisoner of The Daleks, 0 black Parting of The Ways style daleks are present.
@@PedroS1400 Then the battlepack Dalek became Dalek X, maybe even inspired the description of Dalek X. Coming out shortly after series 1 doesn't really mean anything either, there is no link between the episode and the pack. The packaging just states "Gold and Black Dalek". Nothing at all about POTW or the Emperor or Imperial Guards. Character wasn't exactly hunting for colour schemes for Daleks at the time either, they could have quite easily done the actual Imperial Guard which is far more noticeable on screen. What most likely happened is Character wanted to make an RC Dalek pack but needed for people to be able to differentiate which one is which, so they cast one out of black plastic instead of bronze, there's no other logical colour to go with for making a Dalek that needs to be distinguishable without changing paint apps. If you want to do mental gymnastics and try and chock it up to a wave 1 release from Characters slop era to be a miss-paint of a background character that isn't even known to be linked with the Imperial Guards as per my original comment at all anyway then be my guest.
@@yumyunrangLOAL but the fact remains, the black dalek *did* appear in the episode & renders of it appeared in magazines like 6sek said, so CO probs jus told the BBC that they needed another dalek design & the BBC probs jus gave them access to the CGI ones that appeared in that episode. It can't just be a coincidence that it happened to look like 1 that appeared on screen & also all dalek figures back then were casted in black plastic & CO still do that with some dalek parts which need to be black nowadays.
I think the weathering on the skirts look fine imo, compared to the Supreme Dalek from resurrection (which was just excessive) I think these ones better match the props from the episode.
The weathering on the fenders is completely wrong as no NSD prop has ever appeared with scuffed or scratched fenders. Like 6sek already said, people actually give a fuck about the condition of the New Series props & they're not as badly mistreated & neglected as the classic props were so they tend to get refurbished before they appear on screen.
@@PedroS1400 I disagree as the stills from the episode with the Daleks surrounding Eccleston show some slight weathering on the skirts.. okay maybe not exactly accurate but like I said it’s only my opinion. I get there are some purists out there and like I said I wasn’t a fan of it on the Black Supreme.
@kieranedgar7575 that's not weathering tho that's just them reflecting light. I agree it looks like shit on the Resurrection Supreme but thankfully it's less of a problem there as I can either just get a Day Supreme & swap it's fender for that or any of the other non weathered 70s & 80s fenders we've had at B&M like the Death Zone dalek & the Remembrance Supreme. Unfortunately tho that's not as doable with these revised mold NSD's as last year's fenders were the wrong colour & older releases of revised mold NSD's are still pretty rare. I also don't wanna have to repaint the fender myself so that's another problem bc finding the right shade of silver/gun metal grey is not gonna be easy.
Tbh the body should have scuffing and oil marks like the 2013 crucible dalek and asylum variants not the fender
Ye I got no idea where they got these scuffs & scratches from as IIRC 0 NSD props have ever looked like that on screen🤣
Do you have the progenitor guardian bronze drone from 2010, it's slightly different from the crucible dalek, more darker metallic copper ish tone, slightly glittery along with the painted ear cages and weirdly had a glossy eyeball despite the ones from victory and the Moffat era generally having matte eyeballs
Might be a better comparison for the bronze tone, the crucible one is a bit too orange
I do have that figure but it is BNIB so no as easy to compare to
It is budgetary, they can only afford 1 new sculpt per year now and Al wasn’t happy with previous rivers so he wanted a new head for her. I would prefer a new claw arm over a new river head but it’s not the worst reuse of an old sculpt (let’s hope disco rose is never coming back)
At least tho they coulda modified it to make the arm longer. Especially as the actual claw is surprisingly still in scale with the revised mold plunger cups
unfortunately it’s because they modified it to fit the new ball joint that it is too short, but agreed it would have worked so much better if it was a bit longer
@acanimations1223 it's not modified it fits fine without any problems. The chunky mold appendages all fit into the revised mold ball joints as the holes are the same size, so they're cross compatible with each other
Ah ok, I heard it was modified to fit, but my bad
Just bit a flop of character using the old sculpt for the claw arm…. They really couldn’t afford to make a new one😕 still a great pair of sets never the less
But at the bare minimum they coulda modified the OG chunky mold version to make it longer as the claw is still in proportion with the revised mold plunger cups
Scuffing Hell 🔥