Hi names roadrunner and a friend of James ( waypoint survival) . I use an east German strichtarn shelter halve from the 70s . Iv had it for 5-6 years now and it works well as a shelter and for my swagroll when I'm trying to keep the wind off. Loving the videos .
Great presentation, as usual, my original troop(troop 39, Mechanicsville, NY) had shelter halves, when I started. We used them for several years. Mostally we had WW1 halves, which we used for years. When we bought real Scout tents(the Overnighter) many of us went back to the shelter halves( better quality) . I received one as an gift when I retired as SPL. I have it still, my sons have used it for years. I still know where 1 half is. It's mate is with on of the boys(7). We never had the issue poles , onr of the dads made a number of solid poles from scrap wood from his business, we would just lash the poles to the sides of our packs. In the piles of halves we had some of the older halves 3-4 at most. They weren't in use. Now I know why, thx. Our adult leaders used them too. Eventually the troop disbanded, the gear was given to other troops, many of the old gear was thrown out or otherwise destroyed. Old Scouting was forgotten. I love seeing it through your videos. It brings back so many treasured memories. Thank you again for sending this old Scout back to those simpler times!
Thank you for sharing your story, it really helps me understand historically what scouts used. My troop had a ton of older Bakers passed down to us, they were heavy but roomy and a lot of fun to use. At camporees we really stood out from the sea of nylon tents. I would love to have one of them again, I really enjoyed them but they were a heavier canvas than the older canvas Voyagers...more like wall tent weight. Good times! I have almost a dozen complete shelter half tents that I want my troop to do a vintage campout in and we would focus on more primitive skills. I just need to convince my PLC :)
@@honorableoutfitters Our council camp used bakers for summer camp. They were set up 4 bakers across from from each other with a 10x10 patrol fly covering the center. With a picnic table under the fly, it provided for an 8 man patrol. Leaders got a small wall tent. We had a Huge number of old army cots 2 per tent. Tents went up ordeal weekend and came down during fall ordeal. Some troops insisted on using their own tents. They would take down the camp tents, secure them and then set them back up at the end of their stay. Staff week was devoted to running water lines to the troop sites. The camp was sold to the Nature Conservancy, during council merging. Eventually it passed to the town and is used as a nature area, which it was set up as, before being sold. 6 out of 8 local camps were sold, 2 remain. Scouting is changing, thank heaven for the girls coming into the program. They have the drive and desire and routinely out Scout the boys!
Hey, Great video. I'm a tarp kinda gal but I was weened on Viet Nam era equipment from when I was enlisted. I actually love the canvas shelter half tents but now due to this and that, they are too heavy for me to ruck. Your 1907 gave me a different idea about my usual tarp set-up. Also, I love watching the development of equipment in "real life". It is so much more, well, real, than a history book. Keep on keeping on, Skeeter
Thanks for sharing and I appreciate your support! The earlier tents are a much lighter canvas and not so chemically laden as the Vietnam era tents in case you want to go a bit farther back :)
Thank you! It is a neat piece of kit and fun to use! I need to put it to more hard use, it is my main tent that I am using in the field to put it through the ringer :)
@@honorableoutfitters I went to the website you had for a link. The M 10 is in stock. Very good price as well. No poles. But heck we can make our own. 🤣
Thanks for showing this tent. Why is it a shelter “half” when it can be set up on its own? Also would be nice to see the back and how the triangular part works. Cheers
I will try to remedy your questions in another video. To save time on the video I put the two halves up already buttoned. Along the ridge there are two rows of buttons and receiving holes to combine the halves to each other and make it a larger tent. There are also buttons on the door opening and flap to combine other panels to make it an even larger tent. Soldiers could get quite creative manipulating the panels in different ways than the standard way.
Ya looking for a vintage boy scout canvas tent. Really hard to find. Like a 2 man tent. Good video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts. All ready went through eBay.
No I have not. It is my new Kephart that I will be doing a series on, along with a Nessmuk this fall. You can see detailed pics and info about it here: honorableoutfitters.com/birth-of-a-kephart/
@@honorableoutfitters it is definitely an interesting tent and you gave a lot of great information. I have a couple of those tents but mine are newer I have one that's US. probably from about the 80s before they switched over to the newer stuff period and then honestly I don't remember which country the other one came from it's almost identical to the US. Except the flaps are different I believe the half only has one flap on one side and it covers the tenth it doesn't stick out like the new ones do. It was a lot cheaper and I got it several years ago on a whim from a surplus store. It works good and everything it's even some kind of camo design instead of drab green. I thought about waterproofing my military tent with the Flex Seal but that would kind of defeat the purpose of the canvas and it being able to breathe and have less condensation. So I've only treated it with silicone sprays that are not exactly effective or at least that's my opinion of them. It doesn't leak but there's always a first time right? I may just breakdown one of these days and treat it with linseed oil might get rid of some of the mildew smell. They may claim to have been treated with stuff to keep it from mildewing but it's still smells mildewy. And no amount of Febreze or Glade will get rid of it. It's not that bad when you set it up and let it set a while and are out but when you first take it out of the bag you can smell it. I have an ALICE pack like that. I've washed it a couple times but I guess tied doesn't take everything out.
I have a WW2 repro pup tent. Not sure who made it as I bought it off of another reenactor. Do I need to wax or waterproof it in some way or are they waterproof already?
WWII tents were waterproofed with a copper solution. As long as the are not dry rotted and pulled tight there is no need. Spraying with silicone waterproofing spray won't hurt them and will add less weight that waxing them but waxed canvas looks pretty cool 🤓😎
Another good video. The anal retentive in me urges me to mention that the 1907 shelter half remained in National Guard inventories until 1917 when they were Federalized when War was declared, and they were issued the 1917 shelter half. The 07 halves that were turned in and held in warehouses in the event of need and at the end of WW1 they were surplussed out which put them in civilian hands. The 1910 shelter half you link to is actually the Cavalry 1910 shelter half and was adopted for all-Army used in 1917. The 1910 Infantry shelter half differed from the WW1 style that we have all come to know and love in that it resembled a Forester tent, sloping from front to back as well as to the sides and a bell at both ends:www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/uploads/monthly_07_2014/post-241-0-96810300-1405188260.jpg The idea was to negate the need for carrying poles as a rifle would be used for the front pole and a bayonet would be used for the rear. Tacticians noted that in the event of an attack on a nighttime bivouac, half your rifles would be holding up tents and not readily available for deployment. (we should also note that the Cavalry tent was designed to use sabers as poles). It is a good one-man shelter and probably inspired by the Forester design, but impractical for two man use. WPG has these as well: onlinemilitaria.net/products/6645-us-m1910-infantry-shelter-half-pre-wwi/
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Shelter sheets throughout history could be a life study and an awesome thesis!
True, my friend @sargevining has a good start on it. He has more tents and vintage shelters than a WWI platoon ;)
Hi names roadrunner and a friend of James ( waypoint survival) . I use an east German strichtarn shelter halve from the 70s . Iv had it for 5-6 years now and it works well as a shelter and for my swagroll when I'm trying to keep the wind off. Loving the videos .
Your genuine enthusiasm is refreshing! Thank you!
I appreciate it friend, have a great week!
Another great video, brother! You passion and enthusiasm always shows and makes it that much better!
I appreciate that!
Great presentation, as usual, my original troop(troop 39, Mechanicsville, NY) had shelter halves, when I started. We used them for several years. Mostally we had WW1 halves, which we used for years. When we bought real Scout tents(the Overnighter) many of us went back to the shelter halves( better quality) . I received one as an gift when I retired as SPL. I have it still, my sons have used it for years. I still know where 1 half is. It's mate is with on of the boys(7). We never had the issue poles , onr of the dads made a number of solid poles from scrap wood from his business, we would just lash the poles to the sides of our packs. In the piles of halves we had some of the older halves 3-4 at most. They weren't in use. Now I know why, thx. Our adult leaders used them too. Eventually the troop disbanded, the gear was given to other troops, many of the old gear was thrown out or otherwise destroyed. Old Scouting was forgotten. I love seeing it through your videos. It brings back so many treasured memories. Thank you again for sending this old Scout back to those simpler times!
Thank you for sharing your story, it really helps me understand historically what scouts used. My troop had a ton of older Bakers passed down to us, they were heavy but roomy and a lot of fun to use. At camporees we really stood out from the sea of nylon tents. I would love to have one of them again, I really enjoyed them but they were a heavier canvas than the older canvas Voyagers...more like wall tent weight. Good times! I have almost a dozen complete shelter half tents that I want my troop to do a vintage campout in and we would focus on more primitive skills. I just need to convince my PLC :)
@@honorableoutfitters Our council camp used bakers for summer camp. They were set up 4 bakers across from from each other with a 10x10 patrol fly covering the center. With a picnic table under the fly, it provided for an 8 man patrol. Leaders got a small wall tent. We had a Huge number of old army cots 2 per tent. Tents went up ordeal weekend and came down during fall ordeal.
Some troops insisted on using their own tents. They would take down the camp tents, secure them and then set them back up at the end of their stay. Staff week was devoted to running water lines to the troop sites. The camp was sold to the Nature Conservancy, during council merging. Eventually it passed to the town and is used as a nature area, which it was set up as, before being sold. 6 out of 8 local camps were sold, 2 remain. Scouting is changing, thank heaven for the girls coming into the program. They have the drive and desire and routinely out Scout the boys!
Just ordered the 1910 shelter from price glory, very excited for the thunder and rainstorms this weekend ⛈
Lol, it really is an experience! Don't forget to trench around the perimeter to direct rain away from the tent.
Hey,
Great video. I'm a tarp kinda gal but I was weened on Viet Nam era equipment from when I was enlisted. I actually love the canvas shelter half tents but now due to this and that, they are too heavy for me to ruck. Your 1907 gave me a different idea about my usual tarp set-up.
Also, I love watching the development of equipment in "real life". It is so much more, well, real, than a history book.
Keep on keeping on,
Skeeter
Thanks for sharing and I appreciate your support! The earlier tents are a much lighter canvas and not so chemically laden as the Vietnam era tents in case you want to go a bit farther back :)
neat presentation ... a very humble camp. *LIKED* the video
Thank you kindly!
Good job on the video! Awesome shelter half tent !
Thank you! It is a neat piece of kit and fun to use! I need to put it to more hard use, it is my main tent that I am using in the field to put it through the ringer :)
@@honorableoutfitters I went to the website you had for a link. The M 10 is in stock. Very good price as well. No poles. But heck we can make our own. 🤣
certainly cheaper, you get the benefit of experience, and the pride that goes along with it!
Good camp
thank you, I appreciate it!
Thanks for showing this tent. Why is it a shelter “half” when it can be set up on its own? Also would be nice to see the back and how the triangular part works. Cheers
I will try to remedy your questions in another video. To save time on the video I put the two halves up already buttoned. Along the ridge there are two rows of buttons and receiving holes to combine the halves to each other and make it a larger tent. There are also buttons on the door opening and flap to combine other panels to make it an even larger tent. Soldiers could get quite creative manipulating the panels in different ways than the standard way.
@@honorableoutfitters thanks for your reply. Looking forward to seeing more of this tent!
Ya looking for a vintage boy scout canvas tent. Really hard to find. Like a 2 man tent. Good video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts. All ready went through eBay.
They are hard to come by, people hold on to them and they sell for a premium on Ebay. I appreciate your support, God bless!
Good video. Did you do a review of the knife you are wearing in this video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
No I have not. It is my new Kephart that I will be doing a series on, along with a Nessmuk this fall. You can see detailed pics and info about it here: honorableoutfitters.com/birth-of-a-kephart/
It's a shame that had a 3000 views only six of us liked it and I guess only 35 of us bothered to comment.
This was a good video thank you
I appreciate it! This tent has held up very well since I have had it.
@@honorableoutfitters it is definitely an interesting tent and you gave a lot of great information. I have a couple of those tents but mine are newer I have one that's US. probably from about the 80s before they switched over to the newer stuff period and then honestly I don't remember which country the other one came from it's almost identical to the US. Except the flaps are different I believe the half only has one flap on one side and it covers the tenth it doesn't stick out like the new ones do. It was a lot cheaper and I got it several years ago on a whim from a surplus store. It works good and everything it's even some kind of camo design instead of drab green.
I thought about waterproofing my military tent with the Flex Seal but that would kind of defeat the purpose of the canvas and it being able to breathe and have less condensation. So I've only treated it with silicone sprays that are not exactly effective or at least that's my opinion of them. It doesn't leak but there's always a first time right? I may just breakdown one of these days and treat it with linseed oil might get rid of some of the mildew smell. They may claim to have been treated with stuff to keep it from mildewing but it's still smells mildewy. And no amount of Febreze or Glade will get rid of it. It's not that bad when you set it up and let it set a while and are out but when you first take it out of the bag you can smell it. I have an ALICE pack like that. I've washed it a couple times but I guess tied doesn't take everything out.
I have a WW2 repro pup tent. Not sure who made it as I bought it off of another reenactor. Do I need to wax or waterproof it in some way or are they waterproof already?
WWII tents were waterproofed with a copper solution. As long as the are not dry rotted and pulled tight there is no need. Spraying with silicone waterproofing spray won't hurt them and will add less weight that waxing them but waxed canvas looks pretty cool 🤓😎
Another good video. The anal retentive in me urges me to mention that the 1907 shelter half remained in National Guard inventories until 1917 when they were Federalized when War was declared, and they were issued the 1917 shelter half. The 07 halves that were turned in and held in warehouses in the event of need and at the end of WW1 they were surplussed out which put them in civilian hands. The 1910 shelter half you link to is actually the Cavalry 1910 shelter half and was adopted for all-Army used in 1917. The 1910 Infantry shelter half differed from the WW1 style that we have all come to know and love in that it resembled a Forester tent, sloping from front to back as well as to the sides and a bell at both ends:www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/uploads/monthly_07_2014/post-241-0-96810300-1405188260.jpg
The idea was to negate the need for carrying poles as a rifle would be used for the front pole and a bayonet would be used for the rear. Tacticians noted that in the event of an attack on a nighttime bivouac, half your rifles would be holding up tents and not readily available for deployment. (we should also note that the Cavalry tent was designed to use sabers as poles). It is a good one-man shelter and probably inspired by the Forester design, but impractical for two man use. WPG has these as well: onlinemilitaria.net/products/6645-us-m1910-infantry-shelter-half-pre-wwi/
Thanks for the additional information!