Civil War: Custer vs. Crazy Horse | Part 1
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The story of the American Indian Wars of 1862-68 is an enthralling tale of hubris, politics, recklessness, and the merciless assault of industrialisation and modernity on an old world, nearly extinguished. An immense tragedy, it is also a story of great adventure, with formidable heroes and villains on both sides. No two figures encapsulate this better than the enigmatic, strategically brilliant Lakota war leader, Crazy Horse, and his foil on the side of the Unites States government, cavalry commander George A. Custer, whose daring, panache and egotism has immortalised him in the annals of American history. From the bloody battles of the American Civil War and the snake-pit of Reconstruction politics, to his ruthless campaigns against the Native American and First Nation peoples of the Great Plains, and his ensuing, mysterious demise, Custer’s life is a thrilling mix of heroics, brutality, madness and gore.
Join Dominic and Tom as they delve into the thrilling American Indian Wars, and the life of George A. Custer. From his flamboyant and salacious youth, to his daredevil performance fighting for the Union army, and his entry into the fascinating world of nineteenth century American politics.
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These multi-part character studies, are exactly where Tom and Dominic shine. Such a delight.
I'm loving these podcasts. You guys talk about history with such knowledge but also such wonderful humour.
Das right slim but The thing about the old days is... they are the old days
Great new topic choice. I have to say again those four Lord Byron episodes were super 👍🇿🇦
Been fascinated with Custer for four decades now. I even served with the 7th Cavalry on the DMZ in Korea.
Beginning with a quote from Sir Harry Paget Flasman, VC. That was an instant subscribe.
Really love the podcasts . Each one is very interesting. The hosts are excellent and have great banter . Tom's impressions are brilliant
These epidodes, with their forked beards and forked tongues, have had me enthralled for every minute. Thank you both very much, and Theo, too, of course.
I’ve enjoyed your podcasts on Spotify, but it’s so nice to see your faces and your interactions with each other. Bravo!
So entertaining, thankyou both. How fortunate we are to have all the photos of the Civil War, almost all deeply shocking illustrations of what war truly is but also examples of the US Army uniforms, Custer's being unique. Great episode.
An incredibly good listen. Looking forward to the next segment!
I was hoping you would bring up Flashman and the Redskins. It was one of my favorite of the series. Yes, I have them all.
Best duo in history. These two are in top form
I love these podcasts so much.
Discussion of Custer's military virtues reminds me of other similar controversies, e.g., Omar Bradley vs. George Patton, or even the battlefield brilliance or lack of it of Edward IV. Edward always did the same thing, essentially: outmarch his opponents to force battle on them when they didn't feel ready, then lead from the front on foot, relying on his brother Richard and others to take care of the flanks. But that will to force battle is an absolutely key to winning. Trying to be clever isn't. Grant understood this. If he couldn't convince his subordinates of the plausibility of more complex moves, he would abandon them and stick to the frontal assault. People have to be all-in to win, so keeping the plan simple is usually best.
30 seconds in and I’ve already subscribed
Bit of trivia.
A handful of survivors from that encounter were Italian; either enlisted in the American army or observers from the newly unified Italian Royal army.
Interesting. Did any of them write about it?
This is excellent, I usually get pretty bored with civil war era history, but this has been compelling!
The two of you are just brilliant so enjoyable. Thx
Definitely earned a subscriber! Such a good In depth video!
This is excellent I love this stuff
Anytime someone mentions native Indians, I always think of The Simpsons with Crazy Talk 😅😅😅😅😅
First like! Just in time to watch during tea
Yeh-haw !
I've visited the battlefield. Do so, if you can because it's a remarkable place with a remarkable story to tell. Go in June, when the battle happened because it is a beautiful country and easy to understand why the Lakota and Cheyenne fought so hard to keep it.
You are not at home Tom, where are you? Trying to read the book titles for a clue, but most are upside down!
Custer had the enormous advantage of leaving a young attractive widow who spent the next half century creating and polishing his image...
If you're gonna tell me that Errol Flynn's They Died With Their Boots On is not the absolute truth, I will never watch The Rest Is History Again
"Butler! Queen's own Butler!"
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Im just here for the American accents that Tom tries to pull off.
Parallels between Reno & benteen at LBH and Chard & Bromhead at Rorke's drift?
It is considered possible that Ely Parker's comment was added by Parker's nephew Arthur C. Parker, his first biographer.
Great stuff. I have a Libbey Custer story. Custer's last command post was Fort Abraham Lincoln on the opposite bank of the Missouri River from Bismarck, ND. He and his wife, Libbey, had a large house on the post and she saw him off when he left for the last time.
About 30-40 years ago the ND Historical Society rebuilt the house and tours are available. There are stories that Libbey haunts the house. Her ghost is mischievous and is a poltergeist. She moves things around to "play" with the staff there. Obviously this is denied by the officials there. But multiple people who have worked there still insist its true.
There used to be a sign that said “stay in NORTH DAKOTA Custer was healthy when he Left”
Thumbnail is very unfair to Tom
It might be referring to his bowling action.
would love to hear your take on sir Richard Francis Burton gents. love your work.
Cavalrymen are famously eccentric and impulsive.
🤬 I caught up and I’m gonna have to wait for the next episode or pay-treon… they hooked me on free crack
Today we would have no hesitation in diagnosing George Custer as a narcissist. All the signs are there. He pretended to be a nice, fun person but he wasn’t. I think he chose Elizabeth to be his wife because she was a good, quiet decent person that he could manipulate and control, as narcissists do. They spent most of their marriage apart so she never got to find out what it would have been like to live with him every day. Of course he was a hero in her eyes, she never got the chance to see him as he really was.
I have only listened to the audio version of your podcast and seen pictures of you both, and in my head I had attributed the wrong voices to each of you. Suffice to say this was a very uncanny watch! I think I might go back to imagining swapped-around voices as I originally was 😂
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Custer was a brave, capable and highly effective Cavalry commander who suffered from slander at the hands of cultural subversives in the latter half of the last century.
Even today people call him stupid and a buffoon. Yet the US army has done on the spot assessments of his battlefield decisions and concluded that his choices were entirely correct _given the information he had at hand on Sunday June 25, 1876!_ The Little Bighorn is such undulating and hilly terrain that it is impossible to truly know what is behind the next hill, ridge and gully until you are there. I am not a Custer fan but all these people painting him as an imbecile are so far out of their depth that it is embarrassing and they really should shut their mouths and read a lot more--and listen even more. IMHO, Custer's worst mistake was in not listening to his Indian scouts when they told him they could see the encampment's horse herd and it spelled doom for them if they attacked with less than 700 men. Custer could not see it, even with the help of his telescope, and decided they were grossly exaggerating. The rest is history ...
Any reason why the videos come much later than the podcasts? I’d rather watch the video but the podcast series is already an episode ahead
His name will always make me think about the delicious pouring sauce I cover my apple pie with.
Cautious commanders seldom win. They should remain staff officers.
Christ on a bike, this is good.
As always, I enjoyed this tremendously. But Custer, while dashing, was a failure as a Cavalry commander (and a bit of a fool, to be honest). Perhaps Dominic and Tom might like to look at the career of General Philip Sheridan, also a Calvary commander with the Union Army during the American Civil War. Shelby Foote in his great narrative history of that war said of him he was one of only two geniuses to emerge during that war from either side. The other was Abraham Lincoln. And, in case you think Foote was being biased, he was a Southerner who clearly could not stop his admiration of the Confederate army showing through, try as he might.
Foote's other notable genius of the American Civil War, besides Lincoln, was Nathan Bedford Forrest, not Philip Sheridan.
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There's that anecdote by Foote where he telephones Forrest's granddaughter, and got invited to her home, and got to swing the cavalry commander's sword which, he said, was "a great treat."
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I sit (bad knees) corrected. Nathan Bedford Forrest was the other genius identified by Shelby Foote. Apropos of nothing other than a cute thing to know, Daniel Craig, apparently, based his accent in Knives Out on Foote.
An interesting comparison would be Little Big Horn and Isandlwana. Eurpopean/American arrogance vis a vis 'savages', incl., splitting command, last stand of Sioux/Zulus.
Most Americans didn’t want to free the slaves-both in the north and the south. As a southern from Ga, a lot of people in the south were worried about the economy in the event slaves were freed. I am not trying to whitewash history but if you read about cotton and the total GDP that it account for in the south-they were worried that the economy would collapse. Yes, there were some straight up racist that believed in white supremacy but it wasn’t across the board. Lincoln’s initial emancipation did not free the slaves in the northern states. Even Lincoln didn’t want to free them in his own states-freeing them in the south was a pointless act at the time.
Furthermore, Virginia had 3 separate votes in secession-the 1st two votes virgina voted to stay in the union. Only after Lincoln called up 75,000 volunteers did Virginia vote to leave the union.
Dominic potentially lives in a Waterstones??
Well first of all Custers 7th Cavalry wasn't wiped out at Little Bighorn.. 260 some Cavalrymen were killed at little bighorn but also Benteens command, and Renos troops, along with their supply train contained some 450 men who lived through the battle.. The Sioux won because they fought tactically with firearms that had purchased from trading posts and the Metis' canadian buffalo hide hunters who functioned as middle men to the Indians.
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Didnt the colonel forget the gattling guns??
No Habsburg video?
Feel free to write it yourself.
@@citizen916 Just disappointed that they didn't put Habsburg episode with Eduard Habsburg-Lothringen (episode 445) on TH-cam. There was nothing malign about what I wrote and plan watching future episodes.
Surely Custer and Stuart were besties. It's in The Santa Fe Trail with Errol Flynn as Stuart and Ronald Reagan as Custer.
Weĺĺ, it must be true then.
. Oh the sacred indigenous if only we could tap that font of all knowledge. Certain all these peoples have cure for any ill communicate with gods aliens etc etc
He was a dude that had an ego.
Right off, first sentence - it wasn't only the Lakota. There were also Cheyenne, Arapahoe, and multiple bands of Sioux (Oglala, Hunkpapa, and Brulé, amongst others, I believe).
On the other side, there were Pawnee and Arikara in US service as scouts.
When one meets an Indian (only politically correct academics riddled with white liberal guilt say "Native American"), the respectful question to ask RE heritage is, "What is your nation?".
Many Indians today hold full blooded indigenous ancestry, but have ancestors of multiple nations. They might have a Blackfoot father and Nez Percé mother, with a Cheyenne grandparent or great grandparent, or a French fur trapper somewhere in their distant ancestral past. However, despite a heritage which may be a patchwork quilt of identities, they generally recognize one as their main influence.
In other words, they are like everyone else.
I was always given the impression Custer was a complete loser and a figure to make fun out of, until I saw The Last Samurai haha. Maybe he is, not sure, but I don't think so - guess I'll find out!
Well, everyone knows Custer died at Little Big Horn. What Eli Cash's book presupposes is, maybe he didn't.
Custer got what he deserved. It’s hilarious in school they made Custer to be the heroic good who took a valiant last stand.
Are you not perhaps superimposing blind Manifest Destiny over top of Custer? Custer wrote that, all in all, he would choose to be one of the Plains warriors out in the unceded territory and hunting and fighting until the end if he was a member of those tribes. That doesn't exactly fit your narrative, does it?
He still did his best to kill them all though, didn’t he?
@@verenamaharajah6082 Is it fair to put your anger over the policies of the US federal government on Custer? I am not a fan of Custer, for various reasons, but if you are looking for those truly responsible for the Plains Indian wars, then look at President Grant, his war cabinet, and the highest ranks of the US army like Sheridan and Sherman. They are the ones who dreamed up the entire series of wars yet are never held responsible, while these same people blame Custer. How much blame can rightfully be assigned a mere lieutenant colonel in the US army who had absolutely no say in policy and who was actually in President Grant's doghouse at that very moment? I think you should be able to see the irrationality of this argument by now.
I suppose you can take some comfort in the fact that the vast majority of people who hate Custer have never thought this through either.
'Redskins' wouldn't pass muster, today. It would pass Custer, tho'. Apologies
Yes, show yourself out, LOL!
Son of the Morning Star, crazy name, crazy guy