NHS mental health services are great at 1 thing. Making you feel more alone, helpless, isolated, lost, and desperate. And for someone just clinging on to this life by their fingertips, it’s often the final nail in the coffin. The NHS mental health “support” is ironic and cruel in a profoundly banal and evil way.
Understanding, compassion and empathy is the biggest healer of all. Unfortunately thats just not available on the NHS. That's whats driving me to set up my own organisation, the wheels are in motion for setting up after Christmas. I feel your struggle!! x
Liv Florez Couldn’t agree more. It will be a year in February since I asked for help and other than a few consultations I’ve received no actual therapy of any description 🙁
I feel u. I've given up with them completely. It's horrible but I feel like they only help you if you go to the extent of attempting suicide. @@carolinabraidybird1929
Liv Florez I know what you mean. I think they look at me when I attend appointments, clean, well presented, able to fully participate verbally and appearing calm (I always take Lorazepam to attend appointments which they know) & they most likely think ‘Oh she’s fine’ 😧🤦🏻♀️
its ridiculous why do we have to look 'crazy' to receive help. I'm sure most mental illness doesn't present it's self physically. I don't know what to do bc I cant afford to go private :( @@carolinabraidybird1929
Liv Florez Going private it’s an option for most and in some cases I feel they’re making profit out of the sick. Well I have my 3rd appointment with a psychiatrist in one year on Thursday so here’s hoping he and his team come up with a plan of action to help me x
They 100% think we are idiots, or at least all their behaviour suggests that. funny thing is they'll be explaining something to me they ASSUME about you because they're really good at telling you what your problem is and not so good at listening. I don't think many staff seem to have any insight or understanding of you either so I think this is why they 'fill in the gaps' with the checkboxes they put us in when they were taught about people with mental health issues
Wow! I know what exactly you are talking about! I am an interpreter working with counsellors and psychologists. It’s absolutely useless and crap especially with those nonsense questioners which patients should score their mood, anxiety and … every 2 weeks! The system is broken. Sometimes i feel sorry for patients… really sorry. They come to services with trauma, severe depression, anxiety and even hallucinations but they do not receive any treatment they beg for help (actual help) and the only thing which may be helpful is medication which is prescribed by GPs . We all know with mental Health problems we need actual therapy and med both at the same time. I am still shocked during my interpreting sessions when i see helpless patients and usually unhappy or even angry with the service! Unbelievable system which need a real reformation.
They treat you so bad that you end giving up. That cbt online course is useless.i am so sorry for you :-( yesterday I went to an hospital spoke to a foreign gynecologist and she confessed that she gets all her health checks and treatments when she travels to her Country as here even though she is a doctor she could not get any help. It is like they get told to follow protocols and treat patients like numbers.... And now they want a pay raise what a courage
How frustrating. I'm so sorry to hear this is their current "treatment" for you. Health insurance and treatment here in the United States can be so ridiculously expensive, but I believe we're given much more resources and time in regards to our mental health. I've heard some horror stories about the long waiting lists to begin treatment, and it breaks my heart. Mental health is just as important as our physical wellbeing, and I hate that society as a whole does not see this. I hope you find the answers you need soon. God bless you xx
Chrissy Thank you so much for your message. I wouldn’t have minded the long wait if it meant getting effective treatment at the end of it ☹️ I’m not sure what my next move is going to be but I’m seriously considering googling private therapy in my area and finding out what it would cost. You are totally right with regards to society not recognising the importance of mental health and wellbeing. It’s invisible and easily overlooked sadly xx
I'll have you in my prayers that you find more resources for your recovery that won't cost you a fortune. Things will turn around for you hun. Thank you for sharing with us about your struggles and reducing the stigma, you're helping others you may not even know about!
it sounds a bit the same here in Britain, if you go privately it is extremely expensive, what the World needs in more caring and educated people in the field !
😆Psychology "the study of behaviour-over the phone -seriously!! I've got bipolar, thank you for your experience My experiences have led me to go back to school as an adult, and I'm diccesfully taking a mental health worker to court, these people need to be held accountable I'm surprised they can even right what with their knuckles dragging on the ground I'm gonna start a channel me thinks with info on mental health rights advocacy ad-infinitum. My personal experiences have been that bad that I actually look I ( looking back) dont know how I made it. Everything needs reforming. The language these people use has been bent/skewered to suit, so I spend a lot of time researching m.h-law, legislation as I've realised that to hold anybody accountable you must have that papertrail Love the sence of humour, when you've reached the depths that some have humour is truly a gift. These idiots have blood on their hands I simply cant understand the apathy.
David CML, good for you, hope you had some success, the staff always lie to try n cover up what did n didnt happen, no solicitor under legal aid want to touch mental health teams with a barge pole, unless the patient has died.
The NHS is a joke. I had to wait 150 days for my mental health assessment. Then another 2 months for my first proper session. A joke. Btw this woman is beautiful.
The NHS is useless..... however. It goes to show how much inner strength we have that we continue to try to help our selves get better, We continue to try to live a in a society and a system that is broken. The biggest flex is picking yourself up, moving forward and not becoming like those that caused the harm. Keep Strong. God Bless.
@Carolina Braidy Bird What do YOU believe would help-Do you think someone working directly, say alongside you to help coax you through steps, gauging what level you are able to move to? So for example, just going outside can be challenging, for others, getting on the train, surrounded by people but feeling overwhelmed, what do i do if..... So, would it be easier with a person there to guide you, or be a support, that someone to turn to that you know knows your various needs/issues. Then they are able to directly observe reaction to a situation, help ground you if you feel overwhelmed. Or do you suppose if not that, then at least a face to face discussion so you can really explain where your greater concerns lie, what steps you feel comfortable making, or just which ones you should try first, as i assume a list of options could be all well and good, if you can go 1-10 but not if 9 would be best suited first, then 5 then 7 etc. I don't know what the suggestions are nor a deep understanding of Agoraphobia but am interested in what form it is you would like that help to be, how you feel they should change practices and help to better fit people?
Also, best of luck with whatever your current therapy is, and be proud of yourself for working so hard as you clearly have. It is a struggle sometimes even to acknowledge help is needed, and to have the bravery to acknowledge it publicly de-stigmatises issues and could well give someone else the strength to also seek help-And hopefully get the right help. But clearly you're constantly pushing to help yourself, seek progression and that is something i wish you the very best luck with. All the best to you
waited 2 years to see person from iapt went see her 6 times and was told she coulnt help me because I could not keep my self safe sent to see mental health worker about 5 times she said I was coping ok and was discharged I have anxiety and depression sometimes don't even want to leave the house its so bad its all rubbish most days I want it all just to end ive given up with the nhs mental health they don't give a shit
Keith Charlton Sadly I don’t think you’re alone in having this point of view. I’m sorry you’ve been treated this way but please don’t give up. I’m not preaching or patronising you but things can and do improve for many. I don’t have any magical words of wisdom unfortunately as still struggling myself but just know that you are not alone. You can message me on here if things get rough & I will listen without judgement 😊
For people who are desperate and on the edge it’s really poor, they need to prioritise people as not everyone is in a desperate way. People are waiting 9 + months
I had two lots of cbt two 12 week counciling courses , iam on paroxetine and pregabalin, I've had lorazepam amitriptyline thrown at me this has been for 12 years still no other help. Like you are saying people think you haven't tried to help your self. I get this feeling that people in general don't believe that you are ill.
Chris hannon I know. The amount of times people have told me ‘you just have to face your fears and tell yourself you won’t die. What’s the worst that could happen?’ Ha, where do I start!!? In my mind the worst that could happen is I could start hyperventilating whilst driving on the motorway, pull over to take a nervous shit on the roadside and then be stranded there panicking my arse off!!! No it wouldn’t kill me but the chances of me then wanting to jump back in my car and do it all again are pretty much zero 😕
@@carolinabraidybird1929 had a review of meds awhile back and was if i need to be taking this amount of meds by a new gp . how do iknow my normal gp prescribed them to me and i did try and stop taking them with out telling him ended up climbing the walls and was told by him thats why you have got to take them. one advice from one gp then another from a different gp. i live in constant fog that clears sometimes then iam hit by days of constant thoughts of self harm and suicde like some one else is in your brain that wont stop talking to you.i have times where i wont drive i know when i wont be safe to do it . any way take care and keep safe.
@@carolinabraidybird1929 the cbt thing was a waste of time try to tell you not to think of things and your thoughts are not founded but iam not able to stop these thoughts do they think i want to have a feeling like theres some one constantly talking to me .i get your vid on not being motovated to do anything and putting on a smile when out socially it totally drains me afterwards. i just tick along with life and try and enjoy the moments of clairaty.
Chris hannon I can see the thinking behind CBT but for me it just wasn’t sustainable. When you are out n about and go into blind panic for no apparent reason all logic goes out the window. Without someone there to talk & reassure you your fight or flight survival instinct kicks in and your only thought is to get the hell outta there!!!
Nicholas Worrell For me personally, it did absolutely nothing. I tried two sessions with two different people (one of which was highly qualified & appeared in a magazine article which is why I tried him) Neither worked hence I’m still in the same boat 🙁
@@carolinabraidybird1929 understand how you feel. Doctors say i have panic disorder and are always taking me on and off meds. Worst part for me is waking up with depression. I have to keep my mind busy
Nicholas Worrell yes they’re very good at handing out medication but don’t seem to have the facilities to help us deal with, manage and conquer our problem. I played it down in this video but I actually feel insulted by this latest treatment x
Harriet A Thank you. Surprisingly the phone calls made no difference to my situation and I was offered 8 sessions of one to one CBT. That helped while I was doing it but as soon as the sessions stopped I gradually slipped back into old habits. I’m trying my best to keep moving forward but I’m not going to lie, it’s a daily battle. Thank you again for the message 😊 x
@@carolinabraidybird1929 hi I suspected as much. I have read so much controversial info about ineffectiveness of cbt. bit of a sticky plaster!!! Well done for trying your best. hope to see another video soon x
NHS mental health services are great at 1 thing. Making you feel more alone, helpless, isolated, lost, and desperate. And for someone just clinging on to this life by their fingertips, it’s often the final nail in the coffin.
The NHS mental health “support” is ironic and cruel in a profoundly banal and evil way.
Understanding, compassion and empathy is the biggest healer of all. Unfortunately thats just not available on the NHS. That's whats driving me to set up my own organisation, the wheels are in motion for setting up after Christmas. I feel your struggle!! x
Did you set up your own organisation?
im grateful for the NHS, but the mental health services are horrendous.
Liv Florez Couldn’t agree more. It will be a year in February since I asked for help and other than a few consultations I’ve received no actual therapy of any description 🙁
I feel u. I've given up with them completely. It's horrible but I feel like they only help you if you go to the extent of attempting suicide. @@carolinabraidybird1929
Liv Florez I know what you mean. I think they look at me when I attend appointments, clean, well presented, able to fully participate verbally and appearing calm (I always take Lorazepam to attend appointments which they know) & they most likely think ‘Oh she’s fine’ 😧🤦🏻♀️
its ridiculous why do we have to look 'crazy' to receive help. I'm sure most mental illness doesn't present it's self physically. I don't know what to do bc I cant afford to go private :(
@@carolinabraidybird1929
Liv Florez Going private it’s an option for most and in some cases I feel they’re making profit out of the sick. Well I have my 3rd appointment with a psychiatrist in one year on Thursday so here’s hoping he and his team come up with a plan of action to help me x
They 100% think we are idiots, or at least all their behaviour suggests that. funny thing is they'll be explaining something to me they ASSUME about you because they're really good at telling you what your problem is and not so good at listening. I don't think many staff seem to have any insight or understanding of you either so I think this is why they 'fill in the gaps' with the checkboxes they put us in when they were taught about people with mental health issues
Wow! I know what exactly you are talking about! I am an interpreter working with counsellors and psychologists. It’s absolutely useless and crap especially with those nonsense questioners which patients should score their mood, anxiety and … every 2 weeks! The system is broken. Sometimes i feel sorry for patients… really sorry. They come to services with trauma, severe depression, anxiety and even hallucinations but they do not receive any treatment they beg for help (actual help) and the only thing which may be helpful is medication which is prescribed by GPs . We all know with mental Health problems we need actual therapy and med both at the same time. I am still shocked during my interpreting sessions when i see helpless patients and usually unhappy or even angry with the service! Unbelievable system which need a real reformation.
I've had the same kind of thing, the whole thing is stupid, they just don't understand how we feel.
They treat you so bad that you end giving up. That cbt online course is useless.i am so sorry for you :-( yesterday I went to an hospital spoke to a foreign gynecologist and she confessed that she gets all her health checks and treatments when she travels to her Country as here even though she is a doctor she could not get any help. It is like they get told to follow protocols and treat patients like numbers.... And now they want a pay raise what a courage
Thank you for posting this I’m have exactly the same problems with the nhs service too and now at least I feel I’m not alone
Everything I’ve heard here is true and what I’ve been experiencing I wish I could talk to you.
How frustrating. I'm so sorry to hear this is their current "treatment" for you. Health insurance and treatment here in the United States can be so ridiculously expensive, but I believe we're given much more resources and time in regards to our mental health. I've heard some horror stories about the long waiting lists to begin treatment, and it breaks my heart. Mental health is just as important as our physical wellbeing, and I hate that society as a whole does not see this. I hope you find the answers you need soon. God bless you xx
Chrissy Thank you so much for your message. I wouldn’t have minded the long wait if it meant getting effective treatment at the end of it ☹️ I’m not sure what my next move is going to be but I’m seriously considering googling private therapy in my area and finding out what it would cost. You are totally right with regards to society not recognising the importance of mental health and wellbeing. It’s invisible and easily overlooked sadly xx
I'll have you in my prayers that you find more resources for your recovery that won't cost you a fortune. Things will turn around for you hun. Thank you for sharing with us about your struggles and reducing the stigma, you're helping others you may not even know about!
it sounds a bit the same here in Britain, if you go privately it is extremely expensive, what the World needs in more caring and educated people in the field !
😆Psychology "the study of behaviour-over the phone -seriously!!
I've got bipolar, thank you for your experience
My experiences have led me to go back to school as an adult, and I'm diccesfully taking a mental health worker to court, these people need to be held accountable
I'm surprised they can even right what with their knuckles dragging on the ground
I'm gonna start a channel me thinks with info on mental health rights advocacy ad-infinitum. My personal experiences have been that bad that I actually look I ( looking back) dont know how I made it. Everything needs reforming. The language these people use has been bent/skewered to suit, so I spend a lot of time researching m.h-law, legislation as I've realised that to hold anybody accountable you must have that papertrail
Love the sence of humour, when you've reached the depths that some have humour is truly a gift.
These idiots have blood on their hands I simply cant understand the apathy.
David CML, good for you, hope you had some success, the staff always lie to try n cover up what did n didnt happen, no solicitor under legal aid want to touch mental health teams with a barge pole, unless the patient has died.
The NHS is a joke. I had to wait 150 days for my mental health assessment. Then another 2 months for my first proper session. A joke. Btw this woman is beautiful.
I found cbt useless but pregabalin can be highly useful in mitigating anxiety ptsd and depression symptoms.
The NHS is useless..... however. It goes to show how much inner strength we have that we continue to try to help our selves get better, We continue to try to live a in a society and a system that is broken.
The biggest flex is picking yourself up, moving forward and not becoming like those that caused the harm.
Keep Strong. God Bless.
Hi Caroline. I am attached to a media company and would like to know if we could use some of your video to enahance our programme. Thankyou from Paul
@Carolina Braidy Bird
What do YOU believe would help-Do you think someone working directly, say alongside you to help coax you through steps, gauging what level you are able to move to?
So for example, just going outside can be challenging, for others, getting on the train, surrounded by people but feeling overwhelmed, what do i do if.....
So, would it be easier with a person there to guide you, or be a support, that someone to turn to that you know knows your various needs/issues. Then they are able to directly observe reaction to a situation, help ground you if you feel overwhelmed.
Or do you suppose if not that, then at least a face to face discussion so you can really explain where your greater concerns lie, what steps you feel comfortable making, or just which ones you should try first, as i assume a list of options could be all well and good, if you can go 1-10 but not if 9 would be best suited first, then 5 then 7 etc.
I don't know what the suggestions are nor a deep understanding of Agoraphobia but am interested in what form it is you would like that help to be, how you feel they should change practices and help to better fit people?
Also, best of luck with whatever your current therapy is, and be proud of yourself for working so hard as you clearly have. It is a struggle sometimes even to acknowledge help is needed, and to have the bravery to acknowledge it publicly de-stigmatises issues and could well give someone else the strength to also seek help-And hopefully get the right help.
But clearly you're constantly pushing to help yourself, seek progression and that is something i wish you the very best luck with. All the best to you
waited 2 years to see person from iapt went see her 6 times and was told she coulnt help me because I could not keep my self safe sent to see mental health worker about 5 times she said I was coping ok and was discharged I have anxiety and depression sometimes don't even want to leave the house its so bad its all rubbish most days I want it all just to end ive given up with the nhs mental health they don't give a shit
Keith Charlton Sadly I don’t think you’re alone in having this point of view. I’m sorry you’ve been treated this way but please don’t give up. I’m not preaching or patronising you but things can and do improve for many. I don’t have any magical words of wisdom unfortunately as still struggling myself but just know that you are not alone. You can message me on here if things get rough & I will listen without judgement 😊
@@carolinabraidybird1929 thankyou for replying sorry your going having problems with two
For people who are desperate and on the edge it’s really poor, they need to prioritise people as not everyone is in a desperate way. People are waiting 9 + months
I had two lots of cbt two 12 week counciling courses , iam on paroxetine and pregabalin, I've had lorazepam amitriptyline thrown at me this has been for 12 years still no other help. Like you are saying people think you haven't tried to help your self. I get this feeling that people in general don't believe that you are ill.
Chris hannon I know. The amount of times people have told me ‘you just have to face your fears and tell yourself you won’t die. What’s the worst that could happen?’ Ha, where do I start!!? In my mind the worst that could happen is I could start hyperventilating whilst driving on the motorway, pull over to take a nervous shit on the roadside and then be stranded there panicking my arse off!!! No it wouldn’t kill me but the chances of me then wanting to jump back in my car and do it all again are pretty much zero 😕
@@carolinabraidybird1929 had a review of meds awhile back and was if i need to be taking this amount of meds by a new gp . how do iknow my normal gp prescribed them to me and i did try and stop taking them with out telling him ended up climbing the walls and was told by him thats why you have got to take them. one advice from one gp then another from a different gp. i live in constant fog that clears sometimes then iam hit by days of constant thoughts of self harm and suicde like some one else is in your brain that wont stop talking to you.i have times where i wont drive i know when i wont be safe to do it . any way take care and keep safe.
@@carolinabraidybird1929 the cbt thing was a waste of time try to tell you not to think of things and your thoughts are not founded but iam not able to stop these thoughts do they think i want to have a feeling like theres some one constantly talking to me .i get your vid on not being motovated to do anything and putting on a smile when out socially it totally drains me afterwards. i just tick along with life and try and enjoy the moments of clairaty.
Chris hannon I can see the thinking behind CBT but for me it just wasn’t sustainable. When you are out n about and go into blind panic for no apparent reason all logic goes out the window. Without someone there to talk & reassure you your fight or flight survival instinct kicks in and your only thought is to get the hell outta there!!!
@@carolinabraidybird1929 yep i got in a panic so much that when i got outside i just got on any bus to get away and ended up miles from home.
spot on!
The NHS is crap
Gig a Bit econemy Wherly gig
Does the hypnosis work. My psychiatrist told me it didn't. But i have a friend who did it to quit smoking and he swears by it.
Nicholas Worrell For me personally, it did absolutely nothing. I tried two sessions with two different people (one of which was highly qualified & appeared in a magazine article which is why I tried him) Neither worked hence I’m still in the same boat 🙁
@@carolinabraidybird1929 understand how you feel. Doctors say i have panic disorder and are always taking me on and off meds. Worst part for me is waking up with depression. I have to keep my mind busy
Nicholas Worrell yes they’re very good at handing out medication but don’t seem to have the facilities to help us deal with, manage and conquer our problem. I played it down in this video but I actually feel insulted by this latest treatment x
great video. such an inappropriate treatment. How's it going now x
Harriet A Thank you. Surprisingly the phone calls made no difference to my situation and I was offered 8 sessions of one to one CBT. That helped while I was doing it but as soon as the sessions stopped I gradually slipped back into old habits. I’m trying my best to keep moving forward but I’m not going to lie, it’s a daily battle. Thank you again for the message 😊 x
@@carolinabraidybird1929 hi I suspected as much. I have read so much controversial info about ineffectiveness of cbt. bit of a sticky plaster!!! Well done for trying your best. hope to see another video soon x
I'm sorry to hear you were offered such an inappropriate treatment for your presenting problem.
At least there is a shorter waiting time for adult mental health services than CAMHS
wow. i’ve been told my whole life the nhs is shut but fuck man.. what are we supposed to do?
NHS a great value for your money
NHS lie
Cptsd look it up
Chris Williams Omg. I think you may have hit the nail on the head!!!! The question is where to go from here?? Thanks for the heads up 😊
Do care about patients
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