As a Madridista, i do not want Vini to leave. it’s quite clear that La Liga aren’t going to protect him and Real Madrid not putting special measures in place (e.g walking out). What further disappoints me is that senior Real Madrid players (Kroos, Modric, Benzema) were all watching a young man being racially abused and tormented by the fans and opposing players and they stood by and watched it all happen. Respect to Lucas Vasquez who stood up to these horrible people.
@@A4RON123if a player wants to leave he’ll get his transfer. If he feels the club, teammates, and league aren’t doing enough to protect him, then he should go.
@@eliwoods5583 how would u if u was a player protect him, what did u do to protect him if u was a player? U jumping into the stadium fighting them? How are u trying to blame the players for the fans actions
@@joshspilsbury1931 walking off the field. I don't think he meant going into the stands and fighting the fans. The Madrid players should have walked off that pitch.
In the press conference a journo attempted to defend Valencia fans saying that they were chanting "Tonto" it means fool instead of "Mono" that is "Monkey" in Spanish when clearly almost all the stadium was shouting "Mono" at Vinicious.
We're u there to hear it? I've heard many chants with similar sounding words, and that right there is a problem. Let's say they were saying Tonto, calling him stupid, then what?
@@TheNotoriousNemo it was a direct question to Carlo Ancelloti in press conference after the match. And if you hear some videos of the incident you can hear the clear shouting of the Mono word.
The most stupidest statement they say that “ he (Vini) brings it to himself “ did Dani Alves, Samuel Eto brought it to themselves also? Dani Alves was thrown a banana when he went take a corner in live national telecast match. If I were I will leave la liga asap
This argument Simon and a lot of talk sport listeners now seem to have - that football has no right to be involved in wider societal issues is a lazy one and plays to an audience, and has the possibility to sing a song for not a nice crown of people. I think Phil (who's speaking on the phone in this clip) is showing why incredibly well. The fact that we find it abhorrent that Spanish culture sees racism as a justifiable and fair response to Vinicius winding up fans (what lots of the spanish articles are saying in the papers in bringing it up as opposed to condemning the racism), is a direct result of the steps the UK has taken...through football...to stamp out racism. Ask yourself this - do you feel in any way the no tolerance approach from the PL, the medias correct condemning of racism without victim blaming (unlike the spanish) and the action from the players as a whole to stand up to racism, has in any way helped change the wider societal opinion of racism? If you're being honest and in my opinion the answer is yes. This escapism talk from Simon and a lot of people now is a bit of a cop out to not talk about the ugly side of this topic when it comes to Spanish culture. Vinicius is doing exactly the right thing in highlighting it how he has and he very much CAN change the wider perceptions of racism in Spain. I'd go one step further to say if you in any way agree with the opinions of the Spanish press you should have a serious look at yourself too. Simon should have a genuine think and maybe revise his opinion on it when it changing wider perspectives in football comes to racism IN PARTICULAR
🤔 Tebas wants to pretend this is an isolated incident when, in fact, I could hear monkey chanting directed at Alaba and Rudiger in opponents' stadiums at the start of this season and *NOTHING* was done. It was only after Vini started dancing that fans focused their racial abuse on him specifically. Tebas is just lucky players like Alaba, Rudiger and Mendy haven't come out with statements saying they had monkey chants made at them but didn't feel comfortable confronting it. I've been watching Madrid all season and, at Elche, the whole stadium made monkey noises whenever Alaba touched the ball and then chanted "Mono!" (monkey) when Vini complained about a foul. I know for a fact Tebas doesn't want black players across La Liga to tell their stories or he's gonna poo himself. I dare him to send a survey to those 200 black players in La Liga that he says are well treated, asking if they've experienced racial abuse at games 😂 He won't do it.
Next you'll be saying they're treated like slaves 😏 Why do so many still play there if they're treated so badly? Ps. stop making numbers up, to suit your version of the truth!
Sad news for the player but could be great for the Prem. Lets welcome this lad and anyone else who wants to leave that barbaric league. MBappe and Bellingham must be nuts to want to go to La Liga.
Spain & Italy really have a problem with this issue. For starters stop anyone covering their faces at games, get rid of the Ultras & be better as a person. England has done an incredible job of clearing out the filth & educating society to not accept this childish behaviour. It's not 1980's anymore. Time to change.
These English people love to put fingers to others but they were silenced and utter a single word when Tottenham’s Son was showing pulling eye and racism language recently.
Yeah a few people, who were identified and banned. This behaviour is everywhere but not on this scale mate, this is another level and not comparable when considering the frequency, number of people and ignorance from the governing body. The PL are quick to respond, laliga just blame the player being abused
The president of La Liga, Javier Tebas is known to be a vocal supporter of Spains far right political party, VOX. In the past he has also given his support to fascist politicians in neighbouring France. Tebas recently called Spains Conservative opposition party "far left wing". Should we be surprised that he's not interested in racial abuse?
The media are hypocrites to the n'th degree on this. Look at how they treat illegal immigrants better than white people. White people pay taxes, white people have died for the country. Illegal immigrants get free food and accommodation.
It isn't just a football issue it's still societal. They just take it to the game. Anyone doing this doesn't just behave like this at football. They will be living their day to day life like it too
What was also troubling and shocking is that some of the players were manhandling him to carry on playing. Plus he gets sent off at the end of the and the valencia players were abusing him.Also won't it have been amazing if madrid stopped the game and walked off in solidarity with vinicius.They are the the biggest club in Spain and one of the icons of World football.
Which is why every black world class player in La Liga SHOULD LEAVE THAT LEAGUE ASAP! Also, SPAIN should be BOYCOTTED by every single world class black player when it comes to transfers.
Hilarious, I remember watching an England v Spain game on the TV, and you could hear the chants over everyone in the pub. The Spanish team should have been banned for yrs . Even the spanish manager was sprouting racism. Fifa and uefa needed to do something then, but they did nothing. How is this even possible today?
People really need to get out more and experience different countries. Lots of African countries hate white people. Zimbabwe kicked out all of the white farmers not too long ago. Then there is Israel's treatment of black people.
They don’t want to a cot damn thing about this. This despicable behaviour and attitude has been going on for decades. Remember Samuel Eto crying and saying No mas. Just one powerful and avoidable moment in time.
There's always one isn't there? Let me spell it out for the hard of thinking: Trying to stop criminal people smuggling and abuse of the asylum system isn't comparible to monkey chanting in any way, shape or form.
What happened to Vini is heartbreaking and the pathetic part is some of the Valencia part taking part it. I'm sick and tired of people blaming right wingers for everything that's terrible in this world. Stupidity and racism is done by stupid people and racists
If Spanish authorities (not only sporting authorities but also the government!) can't deal and sort this out then UEFA has to step in and punish Spanish clubs and if need so, the Spanish national team as well.
Simon is right Sport can’t police society. Punishments to lenient. There should be stadium bans for half a season or points deduction. Hit then where it hurts
The players will have to stop performing on the field and leave. See Civil Rights movement about high profile people not offering their services in certain areas.
I'm a real madrid supporter vini does wind players and opposing supporters up but it is unacceptable totally players like vini when through just utter disgraceful real madrid players should have went off.....
Its nothing new. And nothing has been done about it for decades. You have no idea how this makes you feel unless you are an ethnic and experienced it yourself. One word to describe it is it makes you feel WORTHLESS as a human. I.e. there is no point you existing.
How about you lobby the gov to arrest these fools and throw them in jail for a year. The average person in spain does not murder someone else because they know they will go to jail if they do. So make it against the law. It does not have to take years, just a willingness for people who come out with strong words of condemnation to back it with actual action
This is what baffles most people. It's as if it was a 'lone wolf' carrying out the tirade of racial slurs in the stand. As i said, many individuals and institutes are culpable of what has and continues to happen.
Did this guy on the phone just blame Vini for the racism that he experienced? If you’re of the opinion that England and EPL is better than Spain and La Liga, then there’s your answer.
Just last week Simon was talking about how annoying and inconvenient it is to keep hearing messages against racism and homophobia in football. Said he just wants to enjoy the game and not have to hear this stuff. I made a point in the comments about how we’re nowhere near where we need to be and what little has been done has at least made it safe for some of us to go to stadiums and enjoy ourselves
Phil says people in the media & fans think he brings it on himself... Sounds an awful like what James McClean puts up with ie.. It's all his own fault.
Spanish and Italians are more expressive people in general so the racism they believe is open. British media are the other hand are more covert with their racism and express it indirectly unfortunately. Whilst I hate racism, you have to say being direct is the best way to be, so it helps the problem get solved hopefully.
@@haatpraat2993 makes a difference. A open dialogue can be resolved. Being covert allows the problem to persist as they hide behind empty BLM gestures which they know mean zero
And that's because England had to embrace diversity since mid 70's considering their population growth has been going down. Italy and Spain will soon have no choice but embrace diversity otherwise they know they can't survive the 2nd half of this century. That's why we are already seeing Spain integrating at least the resourceful kids from foreign countries to study and live there. We need to get the context right here and understand why the behaviors are different. Although i see your point that being straight out helps things to move quickly, it is a very sad situation in Spain that they don't yet realize we are all same which is only limiting them in terms of creativity, competence, economy and lives. They tend to live a more miserable life with a devious version of life they want to believe in.
Vini is THE BEST player in the world right now...LaLiga should be kissing and lying down on his feet..Messi and Ronaldo are gone and it's Vini's time..He along with Pedri, Gavi, Rodrygo, Carmavinga, Bellingham (if he joins Madrid) and other Talented kids are gonna put LaLiga on the map..How does treating the BEST player in the world whom Luckily u have in ur league like that gonna help ur league?? Javier Tebias SHOULD BE SACKED and never to work in Spanish FA ever again!!
La Liga is corrupt and vile and those fans are disgusting. Shouldn’t be up to the players but I think the only option is as soon as they hear one comment the whole team leaves and refuses to come back on it. Yes they will be docked points and castigated at first but after a while La Liga will have no point but to have to act and stop this disgusting behaviour.
Not that dumb considering his own quotes. He said he will continue to fight racism even "if its far away from here". I would presume thats why Jimbo asked!
Here is why Tebas will do nothing: La Liga president Javier Tebas admitted to being a far-right Francoist and former member of fascist group Fuerza Nueva in his interview with El Mundo.
I don't agree with simon opinion on sports role in society. Definitely sports has big role to play in solving societal issues Because it's a huge part of the society
Not all countries are willing to have integration/immigration forced upon them. Just because our WEF overlords forced It upon us doesn't mean others are going down the same route.
So sick of this debating crap. If it was English fans doing that uefa would be looking at a ban. Any club fans from mainland Europe doing it gets to victim blame and say utx a cultural thing. Maybe they should all be banned until the culture changes. But we all know uefas corupt officials just can't allow a European comp without real or barca!!!
I'm tired of racism in football, especially when I'm deep into an exciting game filled with all walks with no racial thoughts anywhere near me, then across the screen scrolls 'no room for racism', it's bloody tiresome
That's a weird take? You're tired of racism being called out? The no room for racism on the screen is there because racism still happens in football, Vini Jr example being one
@@durrcadurk Its people like @NPC3PO who allow racism to continue by denying it even exists. I call people like him, 'Bernard Manning' type football fans.
No. Let's not play culture wars now. We csn see one person in every game being hurt more importantly, we can see the same person, Vinnie, talking about how he is being hurt. Nothing to do with foreign media.
The truth is it happens everywhere some more serious than others for eg England they can’t do it in the stadium the chants and stuff but they do it online and most times it’s off the back of a loss and in Italy and Spain it’s bananas thrown, monkey chants and the heckling the culture permit it when no action is being taken
Same happened at juventus when moise kean was abused, and his teammate bonucci took the fans' side and said he brought it on himself
Yeah right that happened too
As a juve fan I remember that..that’s crazy
terrible and moise went back there
Abuse & racial abuse are two very different things!
Besides he couldn't have been abused that badly, because he went back there
Guys its Simple spain just isn't as woke.
Hungary is worse too.
Anyone remember Bonucci?
The players are on millions & the way la liga thinks
As a Madridista, i do not want Vini to leave. it’s quite clear that La Liga aren’t going to protect him and Real Madrid not putting special measures in place (e.g walking out).
What further disappoints me is that senior Real Madrid players (Kroos, Modric, Benzema) were all watching a young man being racially abused and tormented by the fans and opposing players and they stood by and watched it all happen.
Respect to Lucas Vasquez who stood up to these horrible people.
He ain’t leaving. Signed a big contract recently so I’d be very surprised if that happened. Couldn’t see Real letting him go also
@@A4RON123if a player wants to leave he’ll get his transfer. If he feels the club, teammates, and league aren’t doing enough to protect him, then he should go.
Racism is not acceptable at any level. The guy reacts to it in a dishonorable way, which is like pouring petrol on fire.
@@eliwoods5583 how would u if u was a player protect him, what did u do to protect him if u was a player? U jumping into the stadium fighting them? How are u trying to blame the players for the fans actions
@@joshspilsbury1931 walking off the field. I don't think he meant going into the stands and fighting the fans. The Madrid players should have walked off that pitch.
It’s a cultural society issue here in Spain. Its not just a football issue
I’d say it’s like the UK in the 80’s
ditto italy / russia / hungary / some french teams
Its still happening in the UK
@@keiron.4612 NOWHERE near as much as it used to and nowhere near as much as in mainland Europe.
@@MrKajjaGG your right it is more in other countries what's wrong with the world everyone should be equal no matter what
All racism is a cultural issue.
Disgrace why is it always easier to blame the victim then the perpetrators.
Why have they not mentioned the fact that Tebas literally victim blamed Vinicius
Thank you!
Vini is the aggressor. The Spanish people are the victims of fake hate crimes 🤦🤦
They never do. Tebas is more disgusting than thise ignorant fans. 💯
Exactly. Like they want vini Jr to solve the whole problem on racism in la liga. That’s not his job.
@@mfjosh6422 his job is to play football he should stop crying
In the press conference a journo attempted to defend Valencia fans saying that they were chanting "Tonto" it means fool instead of "Mono" that is "Monkey" in Spanish when clearly almost all the stadium was shouting "Mono" at Vinicious.
We're u there to hear it? I've heard many chants with similar sounding words, and that right there is a problem. Let's say they were saying Tonto, calling him stupid, then what?
@@TheNotoriousNemo it was a direct question to Carlo Ancelloti in press conference after the match.
And if you hear some videos of the incident you can hear the clear shouting of the Mono word.
@TheNotoriousNemo ahh the classic "Boo-urns"
JAVIER TEBIAS NEEDS TO BE SACKED!!! THAT TRASH GUY DESTROYING LALIGA
In the videos recorded from the crowd you can clearly hear both chants being used, you can also hear some of the fans making monkey noises too
The most stupidest statement they say that “ he (Vini) brings it to himself “ did Dani Alves, Samuel Eto brought it to themselves also? Dani Alves was thrown a banana when he went take a corner in live national telecast match. If I were I will leave la liga asap
This argument Simon and a lot of talk sport listeners now seem to have - that football has no right to be involved in wider societal issues is a lazy one and plays to an audience, and has the possibility to sing a song for not a nice crown of people. I think Phil (who's speaking on the phone in this clip) is showing why incredibly well. The fact that we find it abhorrent that Spanish culture sees racism as a justifiable and fair response to Vinicius winding up fans (what lots of the spanish articles are saying in the papers in bringing it up as opposed to condemning the racism), is a direct result of the steps the UK has taken...through football...to stamp out racism. Ask yourself this - do you feel in any way the no tolerance approach from the PL, the medias correct condemning of racism without victim blaming (unlike the spanish) and the action from the players as a whole to stand up to racism, has in any way helped change the wider societal opinion of racism? If you're being honest and in my opinion the answer is yes. This escapism talk from Simon and a lot of people now is a bit of a cop out to not talk about the ugly side of this topic when it comes to Spanish culture. Vinicius is doing exactly the right thing in highlighting it how he has and he very much CAN change the wider perceptions of racism in Spain. I'd go one step further to say if you in any way agree with the opinions of the Spanish press you should have a serious look at yourself too. Simon should have a genuine think and maybe revise his opinion on it when it changing wider perspectives in football comes to racism IN PARTICULAR
what people need to ask themselves, is racism worse then any other severe abuse. seems like hypocricy to me
Sport is there to entertain. it's not their to give moral lectures.
@@Trecesolotienesdos well if the entertainers are being racially abused then we have a damn problem don’t we.
@@Trecesolotienesdos Is it okay for fans to abuse the entertainer?
@@Trecesolotienesdos did you ever hear the one about South Africa and the sporting boycott against them?
Love how so many people don't care about the racism, they just want Vini to leave LaLiga and come to the prem
Facts
There is just no room for this in any walk of life anymore
🤔 Tebas wants to pretend this is an isolated incident when, in fact, I could hear monkey chanting directed at Alaba and Rudiger in opponents' stadiums at the start of this season and *NOTHING* was done. It was only after Vini started dancing that fans focused their racial abuse on him specifically. Tebas is just lucky players like Alaba, Rudiger and Mendy haven't come out with statements saying they had monkey chants made at them but didn't feel comfortable confronting it. I've been watching Madrid all season and, at Elche, the whole stadium made monkey noises whenever Alaba touched the ball and then chanted "Mono!" (monkey) when Vini complained about a foul. I know for a fact Tebas doesn't want black players across La Liga to tell their stories or he's gonna poo himself. I dare him to send a survey to those 200 black players in La Liga that he says are well treated, asking if they've experienced racial abuse at games 😂 He won't do it.
Next you'll be saying they're treated like slaves 😏 Why do so many still play there if they're treated so badly?
Ps. stop making numbers up, to suit your version of the truth!
Whats wrong with calling someone who dance like a monkey a monkey?
Spoken like someone who's not affected. Sponsors threatening to pull out players walking off will change everything.
Sad news for the player but could be great for the Prem. Lets welcome this lad and anyone else who wants to leave that barbaric league. MBappe and Bellingham must be nuts to want to go to La Liga.
Which is why every single world class black player SHOULD SNUB LA LIGA WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSFERS!!
@@wleon4068 agreed
Love the clowns in the comments talking about “their rules”, as if people should tolerate a horrible thing just because it’s recognised as a “rule”.
Ban them and fine the club until its eradicated.
I've banned the media from my household because of all of the anti white racism on TV now. I'm not letting my kids see that.
Spain & Italy really have a problem with this issue. For starters stop anyone covering their faces at games, get rid of the Ultras & be better as a person. England has done an incredible job of clearing out the filth & educating society to not accept this childish behaviour. It's not 1980's anymore. Time to change.
100%
and still every other week a black player complains about racial abuse in England, so are you saying they're making it up 🤔
Don't act like England is any better at the slightest
The people in spain are just way behind time seriously 😩
These English people love to put fingers to others but they were silenced and utter a single word when Tottenham’s Son was showing pulling eye and racism language recently.
Yes, 100%, that's not okay as well.
Yeah a few people, who were identified and banned. This behaviour is everywhere but not on this scale mate, this is another level and not comparable when considering the frequency, number of people and ignorance from the governing body. The PL are quick to respond, laliga just blame the player being abused
Spain is about 50 years behind
He is the best player in La Liga, we will welcome him with open arms in the Premier League.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts
Are you his little
Rent
Boi 🤫
Sir Simon and Sir Spectre = Top LADS Proper Clobber
Remember the Spanish booed one of their own 2008 Euro winning team player Marcos Senna all them years ago.
Nobody can understand a word you say
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The president of La Liga, Javier Tebas is known to be a vocal supporter of Spains far right political party, VOX. In the past he has also given his support to fascist politicians in neighbouring France. Tebas recently called Spains Conservative opposition party "far left wing".
Should we be surprised that he's not interested in racial abuse?
Holy based Tebas
You need to look up the definition of fascist, before u start sprouting crap, u haven't got a clue about 😡
Dont be hypocrital, Brian Clough Will never Accept this type of behaviour from any of his players,
Amazing, was waiting and hoping you would cover this. Absolutely abhorrent.
The media are hypocrites to the n'th degree on this. Look at how they treat illegal immigrants better than white people. White people pay taxes, white people have died for the country. Illegal immigrants get free food and accommodation.
It isn't just a football issue it's still societal. They just take it to the game. Anyone doing this doesn't just behave like this at football. They will be living their day to day life like it too
It’s shocking and its wrong. Im never going to Spain or Italy again.
Please, keep your promise until your end. 😉
Funny you talk about another countries
racism but ignore the sectarian abuse in your own country.
Someone finally tell Simon that there's no such word as "consequenced". The word he's looking for is 'penalized'.
Incorrect, consequenced is a word and would be fine to use. Also, the word would be 'penalised' in the UK.
Where is the interview with the Spanish lawyer!¿??😊
What was also troubling and shocking is that some of the players were manhandling him to carry on playing. Plus he gets sent off at the end of the and the valencia players were abusing him.Also won't it have been amazing if madrid stopped the game and walked off in solidarity with vinicius.They are the the biggest club in Spain and one of the icons of World football.
Which is why every black world class player in La Liga SHOULD LEAVE THAT LEAGUE ASAP! Also, SPAIN should be BOYCOTTED by every single world class black player when it comes to transfers.
He was also in a headlock! And then he was sent off for retaliating. Crazy.
No such this as a best player in the world I’m sick of hearing this crap, you get a best in every position that’s it
keown looking like he's on countdown
Hilarious, I remember watching an England v Spain game on the TV, and you could hear the chants over everyone in the pub. The Spanish team should have been banned for yrs . Even the spanish manager was sprouting racism. Fifa and uefa needed to do something then, but they did nothing. How is this even possible today?
Hilarious how a fucking English dares to teach others anti-racism.
All cultures are steeped in some form of racism, just some countries think silly badges and pointless theatrical gestures makes them somehow immune.
I bet you're that type that says we are all racists in this country
@@twisteddancer7773 “I bet” I’m not. Merely pointing out that racism is as old as time. And no amount of silly gestures will eradicate it.
People really need to get out more and experience different countries. Lots of African countries hate white people. Zimbabwe kicked out all of the white farmers not too long ago. Then there is Israel's treatment of black people.
Love how us brits stick our nose in everything and force our views on a country that should deal with it themselves.
They don’t want to a cot damn thing about this. This despicable behaviour and attitude has been going on for decades. Remember Samuel Eto crying and saying No mas. Just one powerful and avoidable moment in time.
Have these guys heard Suella Braverman. This isn't ahead
Braverman isn't it's just people that don't like her politics say those things
@@twisteddancer7773 really? The lady basically said she would party when refugees get kicked out of England.
There's always one isn't there? Let me spell it out for the hard of thinking: Trying to stop criminal people smuggling and abuse of the asylum system isn't comparible to monkey chanting in any way, shape or form.
Southern Europe is still quite culturally backward. It's a problem in Italy too.
They were singing monkey inside the stadium
What happened to Vini is heartbreaking and the pathetic part is some of the Valencia part taking part it.
I'm sick and tired of people blaming right wingers for everything that's terrible in this world. Stupidity and racism is done by stupid people and racists
Yes Spain's football ⚽And the people s in Spanish have stopped Racisms ✌️✌️
If Spanish authorities (not only sporting authorities but also the government!) can't deal and sort this out then UEFA has to step in and punish Spanish clubs and if need so, the Spanish national team as well.
Simon is right
Sport can’t police society.
Punishments to lenient.
There should be stadium bans for half a season or points deduction.
Hit then where it hurts
Oh right I wasn’t sure they had a tolerance system for racism
I wouldn’t fine them, just ban fans for a whole year.
The players will have to stop performing on the field and leave. See Civil Rights movement about high profile people not offering their services in certain areas.
They must deduct 5 to 10 points from Valencia, + subject them to heavy financial fines. This will teach them a lesson.
I'm a real madrid supporter vini does wind players and opposing supporters up but it is unacceptable totally players like vini when through just utter disgraceful real madrid players should have went off.....
Isnt Brazil more affluent nation than Spain? Even in the future...
Its nothing new. And nothing has been done about it for decades.
You have no idea how this makes you feel unless you are an ethnic and experienced it yourself. One word to describe it is it makes you feel WORTHLESS as a human. I.e. there is no point you existing.
Winding up is one thing, racism is a completely different thing,what nonsense.
Nobody said anything when Ronaldo taunted opponents. They applauded it. But when a black player does the same it's a huge problem.
2023 we still talking about 'monkey' issues, we need help idk how
How about you lobby the gov to arrest these fools and throw them in jail for a year. The average person in spain does not murder someone else because they know they will go to jail if they do. So make it against the law. It does not have to take years, just a willingness for people who come out with strong words of condemnation to back it with actual action
Two people have been arrested and charged, so stick to the facts!
No doubt the real truth will come out in court.....
The pain is too much pain to carry, I am Real madrid fan but Spain 🇪🇸 is not good for him
1 so called fan? It was thousands of the Valencia fans racially abusing him. Absolutely disgraceful.
This is what baffles most people. It's as if it was a 'lone wolf' carrying out the tirade of racial slurs in the stand. As i said, many individuals and institutes are culpable of what has and continues to happen.
Do they still sell conguitos in Spain?
Did this guy on the phone just blame Vini for the racism that he experienced? If you’re of the opinion that England and EPL is better than Spain and La Liga, then there’s your answer.
no, he is just reporting what the spanish media is using as a "justification" for their racism
Are you ok?
It’s simple, deduct points. Period. 🥂
How can you bring racism upon yourself?
Just last week Simon was talking about how annoying and inconvenient it is to keep hearing messages against racism and homophobia in football. Said he just wants to enjoy the game and not have to hear this stuff. I made a point in the comments about how we’re nowhere near where we need to be and what little has been done has at least made it safe for some of us to go to stadiums and enjoy ourselves
Sticks and stones only break bones
The Lord says my people perish because of ignorance 😢😢😢
It's amazing how Worldwide racists always say they bring it on to themselves.
Phil says people in the media & fans think he brings it on himself... Sounds an awful like what James McClean puts up with ie.. It's all his own fault.
Spanish and Italians are more expressive people in general so the racism they believe is open. British media are the other hand are more covert with their racism and express it indirectly unfortunately. Whilst I hate racism, you have to say being direct is the best way to be, so it helps the problem get solved hopefully.
Does it matter if racism is overt or covert? It does not.
@@haatpraat2993 makes a difference. A open dialogue can be resolved. Being covert allows the problem to persist as they hide behind empty BLM gestures which they know mean zero
@@alexbelotti1603 When has racism been solved by open dialogue again?
@@ackvendor education. Racism is a generational problem.
And that's because England had to embrace diversity since mid 70's considering their population growth has been going down. Italy and Spain will soon have no choice but embrace diversity otherwise they know they can't survive the 2nd half of this century. That's why we are already seeing Spain integrating at least the resourceful kids from foreign countries to study and live there. We need to get the context right here and understand why the behaviors are different. Although i see your point that being straight out helps things to move quickly, it is a very sad situation in Spain that they don't yet realize we are all same which is only limiting them in terms of creativity, competence, economy and lives. They tend to live a more miserable life with a devious version of life they want to believe in.
You can’t kill culture by putting policies in place.
La liga has a long history of turning a blind eye to racism. Boycott La Liga
@Jude Bellingham^^^
Shame on Laliga,quit watching Laliga
He needs to leave. They will
Not change
Vini is THE BEST player in the world right now...LaLiga should be kissing and lying down on his feet..Messi and Ronaldo are gone and it's Vini's time..He along with Pedri, Gavi, Rodrygo, Carmavinga, Bellingham (if he joins Madrid) and other Talented kids are gonna put LaLiga on the map..How does treating the BEST player in the world whom Luckily u have in ur league like that gonna help ur league?? Javier Tebias SHOULD BE SACKED and never to work in Spanish FA ever again!!
Vinicius isn't anywhere near the best player in the world. Not that it matters, your point is irrelevant.
@@MrKajjaGG He's THE BEST player bruh..Accept it or Cry about it
The more you dig at a hole, the bigger it will get! The offended will always be the problem.
Not just la liga F1 Lewis H also had shocking abuse it’s baffling absolute disgrace..
Whats that Simon on about vinicius said Spain is a racists so he did say it's a sociality problem
Tebas, the la liga president is blaming the victim
Black players should think twice about going to Mediterranean and eastern European countries
Based spain
Respect to Vini for standing up to this. I know I’d love to have him at my club any day if the week.
Nós brasileiros estamos com você Vinícius júnior.
Is Spain the new Italy???
La Liga is corrupt and vile and those fans are disgusting.
Shouldn’t be up to the players but I think the only option is as soon as they hear one comment the whole team leaves and refuses to come back on it. Yes they will be docked points and castigated at first but after a while La Liga will have no point but to have to act and stop this disgusting behaviour.
They need a 100% tolerance policy, actually.
vini Jr is the best player in La liga, and he doesn't deserve this
I don't blame him if he walks out of the league
Jim White asks some of the dumbest questions on talksport how old is he
Does Vini wanna stay with Real madrid?😴🤔
Was the same on sky
How's that a dumb question? It's very plausible that he could want to leave the club if this keeps happening
Not that dumb considering his own quotes.
He said he will continue to fight racism even "if its far away from here". I would presume thats why Jimbo asked!
Here is why Tebas will do nothing:
La Liga president Javier Tebas admitted to being a far-right Francoist and former member of fascist group Fuerza Nueva in his interview with El Mundo.
Good
That's going to be eradicated to an extent
I don't agree with simon opinion on sports role in society. Definitely sports has big role to play in solving societal issues Because it's a huge part of the society
Vinni JNR to Man Utd 🔥
Good luck with tackling racism in Spain, its rife & everywhere
strong stuff? its the truth.
Not all countries are willing to have integration/immigration forced upon them. Just because our WEF overlords forced It upon us doesn't mean others are going down the same route.
So sick of this debating crap.
If it was English fans doing that uefa would be looking at a ban.
Any club fans from mainland Europe doing it gets to victim blame and say utx a cultural thing.
Maybe they should all be banned until the culture changes.
But we all know uefas corupt officials just can't allow a European comp without real or barca!!!
Let him take his 300k a week and laugh at these fools.
I'm tired of racism in football, especially when I'm deep into an exciting game filled with all walks with no racial thoughts anywhere near me, then across the screen scrolls 'no room for racism', it's bloody tiresome
That's a weird take? You're tired of racism being called out? The no room for racism on the screen is there because racism still happens in football, Vini Jr example being one
@@durrcadurk Its people like @NPC3PO who allow racism to continue by denying it even exists. I call people like him, 'Bernard Manning' type football fans.
@@haatpraat2993 100%
Se eu fosse da Espanha estaria morrendo de vergonha! QG dos racistas
No. Let's not play culture wars now. We csn see one person in every game being hurt more importantly, we can see the same person, Vinnie, talking about how he is being hurt. Nothing to do with foreign media.
The truth is it happens everywhere some more serious than others for eg England they can’t do it in the stadium the chants and stuff but they do it online and most times it’s off the back of a loss and in Italy and Spain it’s bananas thrown, monkey chants and the heckling the culture permit it when no action is being taken
Tabas thr problem 😢