Back when I was a field inspector for BG&E I used to visit gas construction jobs in Havre De Grace. This track always fascinated me when I would go there. I could see where it once connected to the PRR industrial track, ran down the middle of a street, and then curved off and disappeared into the foliage near the river. Thanks for the video showing some of the history of the line...haven't been up that way in many years.
That’s awesome! Thanks so much for sharing your experience with the old line. I definitely recommend going back in the late fall when all of the overgrowth dies down for the year. Apparently there’s a canal as well that followed the railroad. 🚂💨
The area you are calling a swamp was the canal that the boats were transported to the Stafford Flint Furnace. You are in my neighborhood and sacred place. You've walked past the Toll House on the way to the bridge where the covered bridge once existed. Inside the gristmill was a post office as well. The fishing spot you mentioned is used to fish and some of us picnic by the river. It is not overgrown during summertime. It's beautiful when it's green and the native plants are growing.
Thanks for the video. I was just walking with you and thinking of the places that you were talking about. I even went under the railroad tracks and went down to the River at the first spot you got to that was very washed out. The bridge that crosses Deer Creek as it meets the Susquehanna is an island and it has copperheads out there, so be careful. But it is a well traveled area for fishermen and adventures of walking and enjoying nature. That walking bridge used to be the railroad bridge that had missing ties and you crossed at your own risk. But years ago they created the safe walk and gave it rails for safety. I hope you have time to enjoy all over the park, HDG and you should also visit Rocks State Park. Deer Creek also runs through it.
Awesome video! Its amazing that those tracks are still there and not taken up for the war effort. That old railroad bridge is pretty cool also and it survived all the floods without any maintenance.
Thanks so much! That’s a great point regarding the rails, I didn’t even think of that. I’m surprised the bridge is in 1 piece. I think it possibly was rebuilt when it became a State Park.
@@NixCrossing the walkway and handrails over the railroad Bridge are fairly new. In the 70's and 1980's it was still just a railroad line. you had to cross it by walking on the railroad ties only. Looking down through the ties you could see deer creek, pretty scary to a kid.
@@mikee6354 Oh wow! That’s awesome haha I’ve done that before. Check out my video of the Abandoned Erie Bridge. I was 12 stories up and just walked using the ties 🤘🏻😄
Nice Video! I worked for the Maryland Conservation Corp from 1993 to 1995 and it was during that time we removed the track and ties from the bridges and decked them over. Someone else installed the fence after we were finished the decking. We used torches to cut the track at 5' to 6' lengths and even at those lengths they were very heavy. The majority of the ties were still intact but some were missing which made it really exciting when you have a few guys trying to carry a 500lb piece of track to the end of the bridge. It was a fun project.
Thanks for watching! That’s amazing! There’s so much history in that location. I wish I was around when they were building the dam. It must have been a spectacular sight
Thanks for the awesome tour and history lessons along the way. That water is so nice and clear there. It's fun to trace the old rail line, and I like the style of that dam as well.
Not a problem, this was a fun location to film 😁. Deer Creek is awesome for fishing. Unfortunately the lower Susquehanna has a lot of pollution. The dam reminds me of the Safe Harbor Dam.
I’ve been down there a few times on the motorcycle but never stopped. Looks a great place to take the dogs in the fall. Nice video and thank you for posting.
awesome video, loved following the old railroad trial. appreciate the history lesson and learning new things about that area. I once took a tour inside the dam and saw the inner workings of the power plant, it was huge and the machinery was awesome. thanks for another great adventure. keep them coming!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Awesome to see what's left of it and to learn some of the history. Also loved the b&w photos at the end. There's a good chance those rails were made at the Scranton Iron furnaces just down the road from Steamtown.
Thsnks so much ! 😁 I did some research on the L.I. & S company (of course right after the video uploaded) it was the Lackawanna Steel Company founded by the Scranton family 1840.
@@NixCrossing awesome job on the follow up. The Scranton family has a mausoleum in a beautiful cemetery I did a video on. Anyways, nice job on the video and research.
At the other end where the boat ramp is... Lapidum Landing. There are remnants of the foundation where the hotel was, with plaques to tell you about the canal, hotel, etc. And you can see the lock and it gives info on what once stood across the road from the canal and boat ramp.
It has been my prayer closet and refuge for 45 yrs. ❤️ I absolutely love Susquehanna State Park. When I was young, they used to have a Haunted Mill at Halloween. I've been through the Mansion on the hill, The Archer House. Gorgeous inside. They used to open the Toll House and inside had info on the covered bridge that collapsed near the Toll House. As I watched you walk I knew exactly where you were. lol. Go the other direction and you'll find Stafford Flint Furnace up Deer Creek. Right now they are doing bridge work at Craig's Corner. ❤️ There is a plaque with info on it at the furnace. Great video. Just being my 2nd home and I grew up in Harford County, I've been all over the park. Every road, trail and along every area of the creeks, streams and river. Know it like the back of my hand. Great history in the area. Thanks for the video and walking around my areas to find peace. Enjoy my friend and I hope you find a lot of peace, history and interesting things if you can get back there. Happy New Year. May it be blessed!!
@@NixCrossing yes, go to the Lock House in Havre de Grace and also Concord Point where the lighthouse is. There is a lot of history plaques and a cannon still sits near the lighthouse.
I enjoyed your video, however you seem to have missed the even older part of history in that park, which is the canal that runs right next to the railroad, the canal connects havre de Grace to Pennsylvania allowing ships to move up river
My dad used to put his boat in the ramp near there and one time me my dad and a friend went out to a small like island on the Susquehanna sort of across from port deposit and this overnight and during the night I heard a screaming that sounded like it was a Bigfoot
Amazing that any part of that line is still around. This was a neat explore. I see you as a fan of JP Videos so I'm happy to see you on here. Now, I can associate your name (viewer name) to a face! See you in the next video.
I’m surprised as well especially with all of the washed out areas and age of the tracks. I’m happy to be here sharing my adventures with everyone. Thanks so much for your comment! Stay tuned, I’ve got a ton of adventures planned.
Thsnks so much ! , Further east is the old PRR - now Amtrak Main from Philadelphia to Baltimore 😬. That would be cool to see a train run those rails again.
Great video. It is cool the rails remain, I can only guess they were left in place for future maintenance potential? Scrap picked up in value right before WW2 and then again during the Korean War and in most cases anything visible that was accessible with a truck was taken for scrap, with or without the owner's permission, so this must have been inaccessible at that time? I expect they were second hand rails in 1926. I admit I think it is a shame they do not repair the washouts and keep there right of way clear, (the tree roots ruin masonry structures over time) had the rails been maintained it would be easier to keep it mowed and ballasted, you could even bring in the rail bike tours. What brought me here was researching the Linn tractor owned by Stone & Webster loaned to the Rough & Tumble Engineers in Kinzers, PA is said to have worked on this project, used to move materials probably anywhere the railroad steam cranes could not reach. Often square timbers were commonly cut from the core of a log after the best lumber had been peeled off the sides, it would then be put in heated creosote vats. You are looking at squared railroad ties that the outer layers have rotted off. I live at the north end of the watershed on the Butternut Creek (close enough to know the 1996, 2006 and 2011 floods too well) that flows into the Unadilla at Mt. Upton that flows into the Susquehanna at Sidney, NY.
Thank you so much for the comment ! I think they left the rails due to easier road access when route 1 or US 1 was re routed to go over the Susquehanna using the dam as a bridge. I’ll definitely have to look into those contractors 😁
Not a bad start, but you missed so much. The tracks predates the train, and what you call "the swamp "was the canal the mule teams would pull barges up or down the Locke System. The bridge you walked across near the grist mill which still runs on sundays and makes corn meal, was a locke, like the Panama canal locke. Also it was a ferry toll house and foot bridge across the river. Still a good start
Back when I was a field inspector for BG&E I used to visit gas construction jobs in Havre De Grace. This track always fascinated me when I would go there. I could see where it once connected to the PRR industrial track, ran down the middle of a street, and then curved off and disappeared into the foliage near the river. Thanks for the video showing some of the history of the line...haven't been up that way in many years.
That’s awesome! Thanks so much for sharing your experience with the old line. I definitely recommend going back in the late fall when all of the overgrowth dies down for the year. Apparently there’s a canal as well that followed the railroad. 🚂💨
I’ll definitely check that out! Sounds like another great day of exploring needs to be done out there
The area you are calling a swamp was the canal that the boats were transported to the Stafford Flint Furnace. You are in my neighborhood and sacred place.
You've walked past the Toll House on the way to the bridge where the covered bridge once existed. Inside the gristmill was a post office as well.
The fishing spot you mentioned is used to fish and some of us picnic by the river.
It is not overgrown during summertime. It's beautiful when it's green and the native plants are growing.
Thanks for the video. I was just walking with you and thinking of the places that you were talking about. I even went under the railroad tracks and went down to the River at the first spot you got to that was very washed out. The bridge that crosses Deer Creek as it meets the Susquehanna is an island and it has copperheads out there, so be careful. But it is a well traveled area for fishermen and adventures of walking and enjoying nature. That walking bridge used to be the railroad bridge that had missing ties and you crossed at your own risk. But years ago they created the safe walk and gave it rails for safety.
I hope you have time to enjoy all over the park, HDG and you should also visit Rocks State Park.
Deer Creek also runs through it.
Awesome video! Its amazing that those tracks are still there and not taken up for the war effort. That old railroad bridge is pretty cool also and it survived all the floods without any maintenance.
Thanks so much! That’s a great point regarding the rails, I didn’t even think of that. I’m surprised the bridge is in 1 piece. I think it possibly was rebuilt when it became a State Park.
@@NixCrossing the walkway and handrails over the railroad Bridge are fairly new. In the 70's and 1980's it was still just a railroad line. you had to cross it by walking on the railroad ties only. Looking down through the ties you could see deer creek, pretty scary to a kid.
@@mikee6354 Oh wow! That’s awesome haha I’ve done that before. Check out my video of the Abandoned Erie Bridge. I was 12 stories up and just walked using the ties 🤘🏻😄
Great video!! Love the info and the scenery!! Keep up the great content!!
Thsnks so much ! I have a live steam engine video that should be up tomorrow morning! 😬
Nice Video! I worked for the Maryland Conservation Corp from 1993 to 1995 and it was during that time we removed the track and ties from the bridges and decked them over. Someone else installed the fence after we were finished the decking. We used torches to cut the track at 5' to 6' lengths and even at those lengths they were very heavy. The majority of the ties were still intact but some were missing which made it really exciting when you have a few guys trying to carry a 500lb piece of track to the end of the bridge. It was a fun project.
Thanks for watching! That’s amazing! There’s so much history in that location. I wish I was around when they were building the dam. It must have been a spectacular sight
Thanks for the awesome tour and history lessons along the way. That water is so nice and clear there. It's fun to trace the old rail line, and I like the style of that dam as well.
Not a problem, this was a fun location to film 😁. Deer Creek is awesome for fishing. Unfortunately the lower Susquehanna has a lot of pollution. The dam reminds me of the Safe Harbor Dam.
Very nice, I enjoyed this video. Kudos to you for trying to document the history of rail in this area.
Really enjoyed your awesome video and very interesting!
Thanks so much ! 😁
At 13.07 in your video the retaining wall is actually part of a lock on the canal that ran along here before the railroad was built.
I’ve been down there a few times on the motorcycle but never stopped. Looks a great place to take the dogs in the fall. Nice video and thank you for posting.
Thanks for watching! Definitely recommend checking it out. There’s a lot of history there in the wilderness
awesome video, loved following the old railroad trial. appreciate the history lesson and learning new things about that area. I once took a tour inside the dam and saw the inner workings of the power plant, it was huge and the machinery was awesome. thanks for another great adventure. keep them coming!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Awesome to see what's left of it and to learn some of the history. Also loved the b&w photos at the end. There's a good chance those rails were made at the Scranton Iron furnaces just down the road from Steamtown.
Thsnks so much ! 😁 I did some research on the L.I. & S company (of course right after the video uploaded) it was the Lackawanna Steel Company founded by the Scranton family 1840.
@@NixCrossing awesome job on the follow up. The Scranton family has a mausoleum in a beautiful cemetery I did a video on. Anyways, nice job on the video and research.
@@JPVideos81 would be awesome to see that cemetery when we aren't getting buried by snow 😆. Thanks again!
At the other end where the boat ramp is... Lapidum Landing. There are remnants of the foundation where the hotel was, with plaques to tell you about the canal, hotel, etc. And you can see the lock and it gives info on what once stood across the road from the canal and boat ramp.
I’ll definitely have to venture back there. That is such a cool place. I also want to check out the canal lock in havre de grace
It has been my prayer closet and refuge for 45 yrs. ❤️ I absolutely love Susquehanna State Park.
When I was young, they used to have a Haunted Mill at Halloween. I've been through the Mansion on the hill, The Archer House. Gorgeous inside. They used to open the Toll House and inside had info on the covered bridge that collapsed near the Toll House. As I watched you walk I knew exactly where you were. lol. Go the other direction and you'll find Stafford Flint Furnace up Deer Creek. Right now they are doing bridge work at Craig's Corner. ❤️ There is a plaque with info on it at the furnace.
Great video. Just being my 2nd home and I grew up in Harford County, I've been all over the park. Every road, trail and along every area of the creeks, streams and river. Know it like the back of my hand. Great history in the area.
Thanks for the video and walking around my areas to find peace. Enjoy my friend and I hope you find a lot of peace, history and interesting things if you can get back there. Happy New Year. May it be blessed!!
@@NixCrossing yes, go to the Lock House in Havre de Grace and also Concord Point where the lighthouse is. There is a lot of history plaques and a cannon still sits near the lighthouse.
I enjoyed your video, however you seem to have missed the even older part of history in that park, which is the canal that runs right next to the railroad, the canal connects havre de Grace to Pennsylvania allowing ships to move up river
I thought that’s what that was, especially in that swamp near the mill. I’ll have to get back there and explore 😬. Thanks for the comment
My dad used to put his boat in the ramp near there and one time me my dad and a friend went out to a small like island on the Susquehanna sort of across from port deposit and this overnight and during the night I heard a screaming that sounded like it was a Bigfoot
Amazing that any part of that line is still around. This was a neat explore. I see you as a fan of JP Videos so I'm happy to see you on here. Now, I can associate your name (viewer name) to a face! See you in the next video.
I’m surprised as well especially with all of the washed out areas and age of the tracks. I’m happy to be here sharing my adventures with everyone. Thanks so much for your comment! Stay tuned, I’ve got a ton of adventures planned.
Nice video!!! I thoroughly enjoyed! Still looks like trains could run on it if a bit of work was done...
Thsnks so much ! , Further east is the old PRR - now Amtrak Main from Philadelphia to Baltimore 😬. That would be cool to see a train run those rails again.
Is that what those are?? I've seen those hundreds of times throughout my life and always wondered! Thank you for this video!!
Great video. It is cool the rails remain, I can only guess they were left in place for future maintenance potential? Scrap picked up in value right before WW2 and then again during the Korean War and in most cases anything visible that was accessible with a truck was taken for scrap, with or without the owner's permission, so this must have been inaccessible at that time? I expect they were second hand rails in 1926. I admit I think it is a shame they do not repair the washouts and keep there right of way clear, (the tree roots ruin masonry structures over time) had the rails been maintained it would be easier to keep it mowed and ballasted, you could even bring in the rail bike tours. What brought me here was researching the Linn tractor owned by Stone & Webster loaned to the Rough & Tumble Engineers in Kinzers, PA is said to have worked on this project, used to move materials probably anywhere the railroad steam cranes could not reach. Often square timbers were commonly cut from the core of a log after the best lumber had been peeled off the sides, it would then be put in heated creosote vats. You are looking at squared railroad ties that the outer layers have rotted off. I live at the north end of the watershed on the Butternut Creek (close enough to know the 1996, 2006 and 2011 floods too well) that flows into the Unadilla at Mt. Upton that flows into the Susquehanna at Sidney, NY.
Thank you so much for the comment ! I think they left the rails due to easier road access when route 1 or US 1 was re routed to go over the Susquehanna using the dam as a bridge. I’ll definitely have to look into those contractors 😁
Not a bad start, but you missed so much. The tracks predates the train, and what you call "the swamp "was the canal the mule teams would pull barges up or down the Locke System. The bridge you walked across near the grist mill which still runs on sundays and makes corn meal, was a locke, like the Panama canal locke. Also it was a ferry toll house and foot bridge across the river. Still a good start
Lots of money in electricity! Arundel did the concrete work. Clean energy but the dam blocks fish from spawning and creates polluted silt.
Such a cool place! Those tracks are amazing. I’m surprised how much of it was still intact or close to it. Would make a great scenic railroad!
I agree 90 plus years of weather / seasons. I think it would make an amazing scenic railroad as well. 😬
You are walking on the river side breast of the canal. The railroad was built on the towpath of the canal.