@@twinktoiletsbestfriendsmomscan Yhh but do you have proof or a video of wrestlers talking about it in shoot interviews? Because this is the first I’m hearing it
DAM!!!...This 'back & forth' between Vince and Murray Hodgson is more entertaining and had my attention more than any episode of Raw over the last 3 years...
Vince is a scumbag, but this guy is a massive liar. He is a scammer. The true dark side of the WWF/E would have co.e out if it was not for this lying scumbag.
@Random Commenter that doesn't mean he isn't telling the truth here. he wasn't disputing the argument of possible sexual harassment. his argument was why did they not approach him about it while they were still working at the wwf or go straight to the authorities 2:01 sounds like a disgruntled former employee because he got fired.
if any of this were true look at today's postcasts.. former wrestlers do nothing but bad mouth him but they never bring up sexual harassment cover ups. he fired people over alot less. nobody was above firing no matter how much money they were bringing in.
Apparently, Murray Hodgson made a career out of suing ex employer’s for the same accusations. The judge in his case not only dismissed his lawsuit, but allegedly called Murray Hodgson , ‘A Habitual liar and con man.’ Murray Hodgson would soon disappear from the spotlight. It is believed that Hodgson now lives and works as a night club owner in the Michigan area.
Vince was essentially a King in a closed off kingdom, where no one would/could challenge him; for a very long time. Imagine how much stuff he was getting away with for all those years. Power completely went to his head.
No matter how much the Vince marks want to spin it, being fired 2 weeks after rejecting Pat Patterson's sexual advances is too coincidental. You can bring x, y, and z into the situation ... but going back to the main issue at hand, it is too coincidental. Hodgson is telling the truth in that regard and Vince is doing his usual playing of "I'm the victim" card.
@@dane21dc Being dead usually doesn't stop you from being cancelled, you know. You haven't heard of Jimmy Savile? But like I said, most people who likes doing cancel culture loves LGBT people like Pat, so they are more than willing to swept up his sexual abuses under the rug and memory hole them.
@@dane21dcJimmy Saville was a child rapist and it only really came to light after he died. His reputation was tarnished and he was effectively persona non grata after his death. Death doesn’t get you off the hook.
This guy Murray Hodgson seems very sincere i believe him over Vince McMahon even though he lost his lost suit it does not mean he his a lair-the audience is not stupid that is why they cheered for Murray
It's very interesting that Murray Hodgson brought this up when others jumped in with their accusations, and I like how Vince was going to bring up his past and Hodgson interrupted him, because he has a shady past of false accusations
Hodgson’s own lawyer decided to drop him as a client after McMahon and his team of lawyers and independent private investigators discovered that this wasn’t Hodgson’s first sexual harassment lawsuit. Apparently, Murray Hodgson made a career out of suing ex employer’s for the same accusations. I'm not saying there was or there wasnt but Hodgson seems slimey about it.
You guys in the comments disgust me!. All of you are arguing and calling either Vince or Murray liars while overlooking the emotional fact that all Patterson wanted was some man meat.
Figure 4 Weekly: "Hodgson was incredibly slick on talk shows, including getting the better of Vince McMahon in a lengthy argument on "Donahue." The only sign that there was more to the story were McMahon's comments about Hodgson demanding an immediate payoff to skip the appearance and a how they should talk about Hodgson's past, which wasn't followed up on. It was most certainly followed up on during his deposition, though, where McDevitt set traps about a number of topics that he could refute with proof. Perhaps most damningly, this included evidence that Hodgson and a partner would make a habit of using personal ads and chat lines to find closeted gay men so they could blackmail whoever they found. It got to the point where Hodgson's lawyer, who had represented Sgt. Slaughter in previous lawsuits, took a break, quit on the spot, and apologized to everyone on the WWE side."
Interesting. Thank you for sharing. Tom Kole did settle his suit. I believe Terry Garvin was the one who molested him. Hodgson was just trying to cash in.
Where did you find out all that information about Murray Hodgson? I have been looking for a while, but I was never able to find out anything about his con man past
wow the guy says " you have tried to buy me off so i wouldnt reveal these allegations" and now its come out Vince bought another employee off to keep quiet about sexual harassment in WWE !
and it's also been brought out that this guy have sued other people for the same thing and was even called an habitual con man by the judge in the WWE case
My take on this, I think there's some truths on both sides. Maybe Pat Patterson did cross the line at some point and it was pure coincidence when Murray was fired and he used the event to try to get paid. Wouldn't surprise me if Vince tried to settle out of court any smart businessman would, But seeing as Murray has a history of making this stuff up, He likely milked it for all it's worth. But truthfully neither side has much credibility so we may never know the whole truth.
Vince McMahon is a god but Hodgeson did have a very goodVoice to transfer well to TV . He could of easily been at the time a interviewer atleast for the wrestlers
This is a heated exchange. They both held their own. Crazy to see 30 year old videos after the current scandal Vince finds himself in. Looks like he just buys people off. Patterson came out publicly as being gay long after this interview but internally it was known for decades before this interview. It's rare to see someone go toe to toe with Mcmahon. This was an interesting clip.
This is why he doesn’t like doing interviews today. He was smeared a lot by people in the past. Nobody who is on TV likes being smeared especially when they need fans at their shows.
1. Further proof Vince can’t take criticism at all. Like he literally turned this entire damn thing into an attempt to paint the dude as a shitty ring announcer as if that has anything to do with him getting fired because he refused to sleep with Patterson. 2. Dude held his ground against Vince. I admire that. 3. I kinda believe him. Ain’t like this the first time Vince been called out for his misdeeds.
In 1992, Patterson was accused of sexual harassment by former ring announcer Murray Hodgson and released from the company until the charges were dropped, when he was promptly rehired. After dropping the charges, Hodgson's attorney referred to Hodgson as "a lifelong con man."
@@moviesynopsis001 was I? Because that was a direct quote from another story on that subject. So find something else that is ancient history to dig up.
I am glad the truth came out. Pat Patterson didn't do this and it finally came out. Sad that people would ruin people's lives to get attention. Pat Patterson went back to working for Vince when the truth came out. And this Murray guy is a con artist. If only people knew of his past on this show. And you knew he was lying when he said 3 weeks and then 6 weeks.
Everyone thinks this is a "Gotcha" against Vince... But it's public record that Murray later admitted he was lying and simply trying to get a payoff from the wwf. But most don't bother to look into the case.
Note when McMahon brings up looking into his past, Murray is quick to dismiss that as nothing. He doesn't even say "There's nothing in my past." He just says "I don't think we should be bringing up the past." Con man.
@ant8tfive I'm sitting at that table and I DO know for sure that everyone, with the possible exception of Hodgson, were definitely telling the truth on that show.
I like how Donahue stayed mostly quiet while the two of them discussed the issue. Some hosts can't shut their faces, but Donahue does a superb job of just letting the story come right out.
Hodgson had an axe to grind, that much is clear when you really look into it. Vince McMahon and WWF were guilty of other things at the time, and yes, Terry Garvin WAS doing things of this sort, but the "case" against Patterson was one disgruntled former employee with a convenient story at a convenient time.
Touch boys and women and men I lost all respect for this company after I saw this a few years ago. Randy Ortons uncle on here too and many others can't deny it at this point
This has aged like a fine wine
Vince’s mother touched me
@@TOCC50😂😂
More like aged like milk. This guy has Vince on the back foot by the end.
Vince was actually right about this one. The guy was a notoriously litigious person who had also sued other companies for similar accusations.
Who's here after January 25, 2024?
Meeee
Shut it, stop begging for a thumbs up on a yt video. You people are disgusting
Me I was looking for this.
“There’s a possibility of that” 😂
Everyone reading this?
Donohue stays quiet for the entire 5 plus segment. This is the difference between TV today and TV then, when the show actually focuses on the guests.
For these 5 minutes he was quiet but for the remaining 40 minutes he was piping in during everyone’s claims and visibly annoying his guests
Vince was born a heel
He was born a douche.
I think the abuse he suffered as a child turned him into a heel.
@@twinktoiletsbestfriendsmomscandid he suffer “abuse” as a child?
@@intello8953 i think both physical and sexual abuse.
@@twinktoiletsbestfriendsmomscan Yhh but do you have proof or a video of wrestlers talking about it in shoot interviews? Because this is the first I’m hearing it
That was actually a decent rapid-fire exchange between the two. They both held their own with the pressure on.
McMahon got owned here and finally justice is being served
This is better entertainment than the current roster and writers currently on wwe.
You are not wrong, and it still holds up
@@chrisxavier3147 got better with time like fine wine...
Still true
fast forward 2024
Years later.... =X
oh boy does this clip resonate now
DAM!!!...This 'back & forth' between Vince and Murray Hodgson is more entertaining and had my attention more than any episode of Raw over the last 3 years...
…Make that 14 years now!
On God lmao@@TiltBrook
This should be on the Dark Side Of The Ring
It should've been
@@Alexandria87 ty
It might just happen now lol
Vince is a scumbag, but this guy is a massive liar. He is a scammer. The true dark side of the WWF/E would have co.e out if it was not for this lying scumbag.
What happened that I saw a 30 sec clip of this facebook which then forced me to search this out? Why is it getting the rounds?
Vince is a good liar. But the audience isn't buying it.
i have worked with murray, and he is a total bser
MystikWizard Vince is slick, but he wasn’t the liar here.
@Random Commenter that doesn't mean he isn't telling the truth here. he wasn't disputing the argument of possible sexual harassment. his argument was why did they not approach him about it while they were still working at the wwf or go straight to the authorities
2:01 sounds like a disgruntled former employee because he got fired.
if any of this were true look at today's postcasts.. former wrestlers do nothing but bad mouth him but they never bring up sexual harassment cover ups. he fired people over alot less. nobody was above firing no matter how much money they were bringing in.
@Random Commenter More recently, declaring that AEW isn't competition....only to rebrand NXT at the expense of 12 released & talented superstars.
Murray seems like a great lawyer. He doesn't miss a beat. No stutters. No passivity in his voice. Immediate rebuttals
Murray Hodgson gave Vince a serious Rock Bottom and People's Elbow here. He had him on the defensive the whole time.
The Rock use to give Pat Patterson another kind of bottom
Apparently, Murray Hodgson made a career out of suing ex employer’s for the same accusations. The judge in his case not only dismissed his lawsuit, but allegedly called Murray Hodgson , ‘A Habitual liar and con man.’ Murray Hodgson would soon disappear from the spotlight. It is believed that Hodgson now lives and works as a night club owner in the Michigan area.
People have said he’s not a nice guy to work for lol, him and Vince 2 narcissists
He's not exactly the only one to insinuate this kind of thing about Pat Patterson.
Vince was essentially a King in a closed off kingdom, where no one would/could challenge him; for a very long time.
Imagine how much stuff he was getting away with for all those years. Power completely went to his head.
2:46 Vince McMahon turns into "Mr. McMahon" and goes into PROMO MODE.
No way that Vince would allow sexual harassment. No way in hell! LOL
Maybe you should rethink that, especially of what's going on with him now.
@@rumarspencer7302 It was indeed, a joke.
@@sebastianmoran. Should've known
OH no never
@@rumarspencer7302omg 🙄🙄🙄. It went like way over ur head 😩😩😩
This has aged like fine wine. 😅
"3 weeks later I was on your rear end!!"
Lol! He probably should have used a better choice of words.
McMahon was too powerful for anyone to hurt him by this point.
No matter how much the Vince marks want to spin it, being fired 2 weeks after rejecting Pat Patterson's sexual advances is too coincidental. You can bring x, y, and z into the situation ... but going back to the main issue at hand, it is too coincidental. Hodgson is telling the truth in that regard and Vince is doing his usual playing of "I'm the victim" card.
Pat Patterson is the Jerry Sandusky of the WWE
@@matthewalkman386 you
Nazi
@@matthewalkman386 Patterson wasn’t Jewish
@@henrycruz4966
You’re right
He isn’t Jewish
But both men are weirdo pedo’s
@@henrycruz4966don't matter if he was Jewish or not. Fuck both of those people may they burn in hell
@@henrycruz4966but he was a peter pumper.
People won't cancel Pat Patterson like they're doing to Vince now because he was gay
Exactly
He’s dead. What are you expecting exactly?
@@dane21dc Being dead usually doesn't stop you from being cancelled, you know. You haven't heard of Jimmy Savile? But like I said, most people who likes doing cancel culture loves LGBT people like Pat, so they are more than willing to swept up his sexual abuses under the rug and memory hole them.
@@dane21dcJimmy Saville was a child rapist and it only really came to light after he died. His reputation was tarnished and he was effectively persona non grata after his death. Death doesn’t get you off the hook.
God already cancelled pat
I love how Donahue knew when to shut up and let em fight. He was the best.
Vince's boy toy was Shawn michaels
Now Vince McMahon didn't learn from his mistakes as he's now being investigating for having an affair with a former WWE Paralegal.
"Homosexual passes" and "3 weeks later, I was on your rear end", I don't think he wanted those two sentences together in his argument...ijs
This guy Murray Hodgson seems very sincere i believe him over Vince McMahon even though he lost his lost suit it does not mean he his a lair-the audience is not stupid that is why they cheered for Murray
Interesting when you watch it now 36 years later. I bet this guy is saying "told you so"
Are there any clips of Murray Hodgson announcing on WWF television?
Holy shit. How did I not know about this.
I knew nothing about any of this, I am not a fan of wrestling. This is nothing compared to what's coming out now. Vince McMahon is a pervert.
@@merricat3025 Yeah. It's a lengthy 67 pages of craziness
i wanna see Vince and Murray go at it at the next PPV!!
BOOK IT, VINCE!!
"Three weeks later, I was on your rear end."
HAH!
It's very interesting that Murray Hodgson brought this up when others jumped in with their accusations, and I like how Vince was going to bring up his past and Hodgson interrupted him, because he has a shady past of false accusations
Hodgson’s own lawyer decided to drop him as a client after McMahon and his team of lawyers and independent private investigators discovered that this wasn’t Hodgson’s first sexual harassment lawsuit.
Apparently, Murray Hodgson made a career out of suing ex employer’s for the same accusations.
I'm not saying there was or there wasnt but Hodgson seems slimey about it.
You guys in the comments disgust me!. All of you are arguing and calling either Vince or Murray liars while overlooking the emotional fact that all Patterson wanted was some man meat.
lol
Figure 4 Weekly:
"Hodgson was incredibly slick on talk shows, including getting the
better of Vince McMahon in a lengthy argument on "Donahue." The only
sign that there was more to the story were McMahon's comments about
Hodgson demanding an immediate payoff to skip the appearance and a how
they should talk about Hodgson's past, which wasn't followed up on. It
was most certainly followed up on during his deposition, though, where
McDevitt set traps about a number of topics that he could refute with
proof. Perhaps most damningly, this included evidence that Hodgson and a
partner would make a habit of using personal ads and chat lines to find
closeted gay men so they could blackmail whoever they found. It got to
the point where Hodgson's lawyer, who had represented Sgt. Slaughter in
previous lawsuits, took a break, quit on the spot, and apologized to
everyone on the WWE side."
Interesting. Thank you for sharing. Tom Kole did settle his suit. I believe Terry Garvin was the one who molested him. Hodgson was just trying to cash in.
Where did you find out all that information about Murray Hodgson? I have been looking for a while, but I was never able to find out anything about his con man past
Vince v Murray the best feud ever, book it for Wrestlemania 40 😂😂 great backstory
Vince is passing the buck, and still is today!
Still true
oof is it still true tho? seems like he might be in a bit of a pickle this time@@BAYBAY_316
@@BAYBAY_316not anymore!
Murray Hodgson for the WWE hall of fame!!
Vince did well considering this was a obviously biased audience.
Incorrect. He’s been proven a disgusting pervert. You should probably delete this
wow the guy says " you have tried to buy me off so i wouldnt reveal these allegations" and now its come out Vince bought another employee off to keep quiet about sexual harassment in WWE !
and it's also been brought out that this guy have sued other people for the same thing and was even called an habitual con man by the judge in the WWE case
@@brianburton5946 Seems like just a coincidence then cause Vince definitely got exposed.
Damn that dude didnt back down ine but. Did he win his lawsuit or settle?
Vince is truly evil.
My take on this, I think there's some truths on both sides. Maybe Pat Patterson did cross the line at some point and it was pure coincidence when Murray was fired and he used the event to try to get paid. Wouldn't surprise me if Vince tried to settle out of court any smart businessman would, But seeing as Murray has a history of making this stuff up, He likely milked it for all it's worth. But truthfully neither side has much credibility so we may never know the whole truth.
Think any differently now?
Murray Hodgson own lawyers dumped him, called him a "Lifelong con man"...
Vince: Once and Always a heel.
Vince McMahon is a god but Hodgeson did have a very goodVoice to transfer well to TV . He could of easily been at the time a interviewer atleast for the wrestlers
This is a heated exchange. They both held their own. Crazy to see 30 year old videos after the current scandal Vince finds himself in. Looks like he just buys people off. Patterson came out publicly as being gay long after this interview but internally it was known for decades before this interview. It's rare to see someone go toe to toe with Mcmahon. This was an interesting clip.
McMahon outed pat patterson in 92!
Pat Patterson was no pioneer. Pat Patterson was a predator.
Murray owned Vince more like it
4:23 "3 weeks later I was on your rear end.." Isn't that a homosexual pass on Vince???
That pretty much negates his sexual harassment claims!!
This is why he doesn’t like doing interviews today. He was smeared a lot by people in the past. Nobody who is on TV likes being smeared especially when they need fans at their shows.
This comment aged like fine milk
Uhhh he’s a pervert. Delete this comment bud
1:49 I wonder if this was when Bischoff auditioned and they turned him down.
Haha this is better than any 'shoot' post the Ruthless Aggression era :D
Pat Patterson and Gerald Brisco could both stretch you in completely different ways
1. Further proof Vince can’t take criticism at all. Like he literally turned this entire damn thing into an attempt to paint the dude as a shitty ring announcer as if that has anything to do with him getting fired because he refused to sleep with Patterson.
2. Dude held his ground against Vince. I admire that.
3. I kinda believe him. Ain’t like this the first time Vince been called out for his misdeeds.
McMahon looks so damn uncomfortable it's sad...
In 1992, Patterson was accused of sexual harassment by former ring announcer Murray Hodgson and released from the company until the charges were dropped, when he was promptly rehired. After dropping the charges, Hodgson's attorney referred to Hodgson as "a lifelong con man."
What do you think about your comment now
Huh? Thats a 12 year old comment…
@@Raazer Yes and you were wrong about what you wrote
@@moviesynopsis001 was I? Because that was a direct quote from another story on that subject. So find something else that is ancient history to dig up.
"Mr. MCMAHON DO NOT TRY TO DEFLECT THE TRUTH HERE"
Vince is a tool but here Murray showed he was a bigger tool
I am glad the truth came out. Pat Patterson didn't do this and it finally came out. Sad that people would ruin people's lives to get attention. Pat Patterson went back to working for Vince when the truth came out. And this Murray guy is a con artist. If only people knew of his past on this show. And you knew he was lying when he said 3 weeks and then 6 weeks.
You are lost. Pat was a homosexual and he making advances at many in they industry and Roddy Piper before he died admitted to this.
I'm not gay but Murray Hodgson is one handsome looking dude.
You are gay
Everyone thinks this is a "Gotcha" against Vince...
But it's public record that Murray later admitted he was lying and simply trying to get a payoff from the wwf.
But most don't bother to look into the case.
Juicy! But source?!
Look at Vince’s face at 4:43. He is upset!!
Vince finally woke up in 2024 and his dream came true..😮
I lol'ed at Vince saying that Hodgson was not a good announcer. Surely he couldn't be worse than Michael Cole.
You must be young. Michael Cole was great until the PG era nonsense started
What timing for you to defend Vince’s decision just as he retired at the time of your reply.
McMahon held his own here even the people throwing things around he kept his compossure...
Goldust would have been in heaven during that era
Goldust is just bizarre but not gay
Note when McMahon brings up looking into his past, Murray is quick to dismiss that as nothing. He doesn't even say "There's nothing in my past." He just says "I don't think we should be bringing up the past." Con man.
Aged like fucking milk it's become cheese
"homosexual advance made against me........three weeks later i was on your rear end LOL!! should have re-phrased that part!
lol, no he didnt. vince looked awesome for his age and still does
@ant8tfive I'm sitting at that table and I DO know for sure that everyone, with the possible exception of Hodgson, were definitely telling the truth on that show.
We know Vince McMahon lies.
I like how Donahue stayed mostly quiet while the two of them discussed the issue. Some hosts can't shut their faces, but Donahue does a superb job of just letting the story come right out.
That's why he's one of the best. Watch chris van vest interviews awesome
Donahue kept his mouth shut for this part but he did talk over everyone who was on the show if you watch the whole thing
@@russoswerve7856 Maybe the producers in his ear were telling him to go on commercial breaks or that the show is about to end?
Vince like a snakey Salesman how he didn’t get Locked up in 1992 is disgraceful
If he would've just boned down with Pat Patterson he could've still been calling matches today like Michael Cole.
"And Murray Hodgeson has had enough!"
Is there a video on youtube, where this "announcer" Murray Hodgson is announcing on wwf-tv?
Vince hit Murray and then Murray KO'ed Vince
Is Murray still alive in July 2024???
"I was on your rear end" 4;21 LMFAO!
800 numbers, magazine ads…ahhh, the good old days. I miss them so much. Our technology stole the authenticity of so many great things.
RIP Phil. Wasn't necessarily a fan of yours but you always wanted to get to the bottom of things 💥✨
dude was just homophobic
Where did Murray Hodgson go after WWE? Can't really find anything about him, besides WWF/E.
Just read a short a while ago that after Hodgson' case ended, his own lawyer called him a "life-long conman".
Now Who is the Con Man!!! VKM!!! 2024!!!!
WOW. This is great!
You can tell Murray is lying because first he said "Three weeks later, I was on your rear end" Then he said "Six weeks later", which is it????
I was waiting for a chairshot from Vince.
Hodgson had an axe to grind, that much is clear when you really look into it. Vince McMahon and WWF were guilty of other things at the time, and yes, Terry Garvin WAS doing things of this sort, but the "case" against Patterson was one disgruntled former employee with a convenient story at a convenient time.
we all know how Cena got to the top so quickly lol.
Murray Hodgson lost the civil case in 1993.
Vince lost this one....
Holy crap, Vince and Trump are one and the same.
Janel Grant??
Touch boys and women and men I lost all respect for this company after I saw this a few years ago. Randy Ortons uncle on here too and many others can't deny it at this point
Vince deflected in this interview like crazy.
Not the first time Pat Patterson got someone fired.