In an interview, Zwai talked about how he was the 1st Black boy at the Drakensberg boys choir school and he was bullied so hard, parents pulled their children out of the school and at one point he told his dad (who was very sick and lying on his death bed) ukuthi he wanted to leave the school, but his father instructed him to stay on, and be the key that would open the door for Loyiso and other Black boys to get into that school. That is A LOT for a child to deal with. Zwai is a REVOLUTIONARY, he was in the trenches fighting and it's clear he has PTSD. He's angry that his mother never saw his wounds, she enjoyed the benefits but failed to mother him. Granted uMama and Mr Bala separated in 1982, and then he died in 1988. At which point she got married to Phelo's father but the marriage failed within a year (circa 1991). She married Tata Jafta in 2018...30 years after Zwai's father's passing. The big beef is the fact that they got married 3 months after Tata Jafta's wife passed on; the speed and secrecy are the problem! I think the marriage triggered Zwai, he feels like his mother is more bothered about her things; she failed to look after them when they were young (and I'm not talking money, I'm talking emotional support...did she know Zwai was being bullied at school, and how did she encourage him to overcome the challenges?). Also, marriage is between families, and the elders are supposed to guide the young. uMama got married quietly and without involving the family and now she wants the children to just blend and play happy families. Marriages are already a problem in the family as evidenced by the fact that 3 children are divorced. Phelo did not even invite all his siblings to his wedding. uMama is not even taking into consideration that Tat Jafta's children feel a certain way about the way their father remarried so quickly. Mam Veronica better be careful cause Tat Jafta's children may well light into her.
Sadly, even in her old age,her love life still comes first!The children must finance it and tow the line!!Heish!This mother is an epitomy of selfishness!With Phelo,the apple didn't fall far from the tree!!!
Mama, you dou le crossed your kids, and acceptance you deny, why Ma'am? Do you really have that parental love, care and respect for them? Zwai is o it, and ma'am supposed you proud of all of your kids, instead you let the "crack" expand, no my love, think again lol. Who'se the most important to you fictionalized, or family love and unity? Think again lol, please.
My son went to Drakensberg at an early age, it was tough. I had to fight for him as a single parent and I think I did a good job, (my take and my experience,presence of parent/parents was important.).
I really dont understand the hate on Zwai. If you have never be put in the situation where it seems like their mother always chooses a new man over her kids, gets married without telling them, stays with a man in their family's house then is still being supported because Mr Jafta brings nothing to the table. Like guys. When will a generation hold the other accountable? Toxic parents never want to be questioned.
She got married to her ex husband friend 😮. They got married after tatah Jafter wife passed sway . They did not inform they kids cos they know ihlazo nje lento. Tata Jafter stays kwamama parents house, they dont have their own house 🏠. Maka Mzwandile was friends with Tata Jafter wife 😢.... This whole is affecting the kids I don't blame Mzwandile
Zwai and sis Pinky problem is not only that their mom married utat Jafta, its a whole lot of things including the fact that they had to play parent to their younger siblings while mama was not around, busy with life..they angry with her. She needs to acknowledge. They couldn't been kids.
100% true. Mama had robbed them their childhood and that forced them to play parental role at a very young age. Makangadikwa zi choices azenzileyo.Zwai &Pinky beve kabuhlungu😢
So true. In an interview, Zwai talked about how he was the 1st Black boy at the Drakensberg boys choir school and he was bullied so hard, parents pulled their children out of the school and at one point he told his dad (who was very sick and lying on his death) ukuthi he wanted to leave the school, but his father instructed him to stay on and be the key that would open the door for Loyiso and other Black boys to get into that school. That is A LOT for a child to deal with. Zwai is a REVOLUTIONARY, he was in the trenches fighting and it's clear he has PTSD. He's angry that his mother never saw his wounds, she enjoyed the benefits but failed to mother.
Tata Jafta kaloku wayethe woyika impumlo ka Zwayi xa ishukuma ubona ngayo xa enomsindo ngathi angamfaka impama kutsho la dokoloshe u bawo uJafta exoka phofu..deforming charector ka Zwayi ezilungele.
For some reason I understand the children's sentiments, Zwai's mom got married to Phelo's father, the children did not know, parted with him. Tat'uJafta loses his wife, less than three months he gets married. Something does not add up... My take.
I share your sentiment.I can't see why they couldn't have told their adult children about the marriage, except for the fact that there was something underhanded about it!!!
There is no self respecting woman of African origin,who would be happy to jump into a marriage with a new widower whom she has just started dating!!!We actually don't start new relations with people who are still mourning!!!This couple needs to be probed.They may probably just be knowing what happened to their deceased spouses!
I can relate with Zwai, until something happens to you as a child web u lose one parent and the other wanna b married again with adult children, is not easy to accept
@@nomakhwezi Very early into the show, Pinky said Tat Jafta brings nothing to the table, meaning it's the kids who are looking after uMam Veronica, and maybe subsidising Tat Jafta. So to them they don't even understand what this marriage is all about other than...intangible benefits for Mama no Tata. Little wonder they're pissed.
She doesn't acknowledge that her love was at the expense of uPinky noZwai, who had to step in as parents. Akho mntu namona ngaTat'uJafta (bombastic side eye). She neglects her kids when she has a man.
They've been married for 6 years, Pinky and Zwai didn't raise the other two during this marriage. Maybe mama had boyfriends in the past and that was her focus, I get where the resentment could come from, but why take it out on Tatu Jafta?
@@Mmeme2023coz even though he is her husband he still brings nothing to the table! They are still feeding n maintaining their mother n him in thier home which they can't even do traditional rituals without asking for jaftas approval!!
She does if she will be married but is still her kids responsibility.Her husband does absolutely nothing for her.He is also a burden to them because they can't support their mother and discard her partner🤷🏿♀️
These parents under estimated the intelligence of their children.There is something underhanded about their relationship and they want their children to ratify it!There is no way you can fall in love and marry within six months of the passing of your spouse!They must come clean and apologize to their children!!!
Parents needs to own up to their mistakes . They are hurting their children because of their choices. After them experiencing hurt they will go back to the very same children and ask for care and support. It is too much for children to bear on their shoulders and the hearts. At the end of the day they are their parents and they are loved by their children..Discussion is key among the parties..
Why did they tie the knot in secret, they are elders with underhanded tactics. Respect is earned bakwethu, umama no Tata Jafta barong on how they handled their marriage and apologies
If these parents expect children to support the marriage then Zwai has every right to ask clarity seeking questions, bathule ke abathanda ipeace while he's been viewed as rude.
Hayini bethunana sanumjaja u Zwayi ufanele kaloku kufuneka ayazi yonke ingcombolo kamama wabo ngoba xa sele lomtshato unengxaki Zwayi will be in for it. Zwayi is such a wise guy. They need to know marriage contract yabo ngoba kune family house elilikhaya labo bonke abazukulwana base Mangwevini and ke siziqhelile iinkamela kwelilizwe ingene endlini yabantu ijike xa kubhubhe lomntu ibingene ngayo and own it bashiyeke bengenakhaya the custodians, big up Zwayi dig more abs deep information about this marriage and check safety ye family ngoba kalokunelilizwe sophila kulo ligcwele abarhwaphiliI noo zungulichele kanti umntu hjonge lendlu neI benefits zelikhaya. So u Zwayi make everybody uncomfortable ngale wisdom yakhe and u Zwayi ufuna kucace ukuba ithini I direction yalomtshato kanina ingathi kanti u Bawo u Jafta yinkamela into zininzi kwelilizwe linamalungelo ajingxelayo...
Zwai be like "What problem mama',,,,"ok express yourself mama" ...Zwai is confrontational not that he does not respect the mother...nawe mama you are so defensive
Mama ka Zwayi got married no tata ka Phelo kwazalwa u Phelo. Lo mama washiyela uxanduva u Zwayi no Pinki to raised abantwana bakhe uxanduva olunzima uZwayi no Pinky abalithwaliswa ngumama wabo at a very tender age Zwayi and Pinky became Parents to Loyiso and Phelo aba bangamboniyo ke phofu u Zwayi. Duku duku Tata u Jafta was a best friend ka Tata u Bala utata ka Zwayi, no Nozuko umfazi ka Jafta were close friends with mama ka Zwayi. The late Mrs Jafta wabulawa si stress 3months down Mrs Bala became Mrs Jafta for almost 6yrs without informing thier children why? Baboyika ntoni ukubaxelela abantwana babo it means there is an underlying Agenda. Khona kutheni utata u Jafta esithi bane dirty minds bacinga utata u Jafta wayeduola beaaphila of which Zwayi khange atsho ngabo abatshoyo. hence u Zwayi esitsho that he will stand for his dad..She is defending herself by shifting ingxaki yakhe ku Zwayi and there is nothing wrong Zwayi expressing ingxaki yakhe kunina yena unina must respond and not react ngoba itacaca ukuba kukhona unyawo lwemfene..u tata u Jafta kunzima ukuphendula umbuzo ka Zwayi asking how does it feel to tata u Jafta when Zwayi was not speaking to his mother as a matured man a step father uva njani ke nyani xa u Zwayi engatjetji nonina...Zwayi is protecting his family kulangcuka ingu Jafta ihlala kulomama ka Zwayi babaleka ntoni bangafuni thier own house ke nyani. Mama ka Zwayi is not grateful akugqitywa ukwenzelwa I favour ngu Zwayi . Still mama ka Zwayi unomsindo iyabaleka uxakwe yimibuzo ka Zwayi and ubuza ifact u Mzwandile shame akaphenduli utata uJafta xa ebuzwa ngu Zwayi
Tat'uJafta's children are calm about this thing!They lost a mother and when the wound was still fresh,their father who was supposed to have been grieving, married this woman! Heish,I am sorry,but I feel exactly the same way Zwai feels!I can't handle betrayal!!!
Mama Zwai, she needs to reflect on her life and the decisions, she made at the expense of her children. She married Phelo father and Japta without involving her children. She has three children from the same father and one child from another father. Phelo feels alienated from his siblings, while the three feel alienated from their mother. Mama Zwai comes across as selfish not accommodating her children's feelings. And how is Mr. Japta contributing to this household. He sleeps in his wife's house and he eats another man's children money in the process. Zwai and his siblings have the right to be hurt.
Because it was too soon for her to get married again hence she did not tell her kid's knowing that they will not agree worse to her husband's friend 😂😂
@@kellnessbanda2767 It was too soon for HIM to get married. His wife had only been dead for 3 months. uMama on the other hand had been lasted married in 1989/1990 (to Phelo's father). Zwai's dad passed in 1988, she married Phelo's father in 1989 or 1990, Phelo was born in early 1991, I think his parents separated in 1992.
@@whizzkidkis she never married Phelo's father. He was just a bf. Otherwise, Phelo would be using his father's surname but he isn't. The 2nd husband, who was abusive is a different man.
@@lungilekhuzwayo8516 Wow, so there's Phelo's father, and then another problematic man? Wow! No wonder the children are upset. uMama has had a lot of drama in her life, which impacted them in many ways. I believe their issue with uTat Jafta includes the fact that he doesn't earn enough to support their mother- Pinky mentioned they still have to look after uMama. I know money is not God, but it sure makes the world go round.
@@whizzkidkis Yes they absolutely have a reason to be mad. She left uPhelo with Pinky & Zwai after finding husband no. 2. Being a parent has never been a priority to her. It also makes sense why Zwai and Pinky are so messed up & controlling, they literally raised Phelo & Loyiso while they were kids too. Now the mom wants them to act like a happy blended family after she neglected her kids all these years & later married their father's friend who can't even provide for himself. There is absolutely no need for this 3rd marriage. They also have no business being Pastors while they can't even be real with themselves.
Mama disrespected herself when she ran off and got married in haste to a man who had just lost his wife. Marriage is between families, parents are supposed to lead the way, instead Mama got into a marriage quickly, and she married a man who doesn't even provide for her,s so her children still have to provide and they are wondering what is the point of Mama having a man. Being a parent is not a joke you have to think TEN times, not TWICE before you do something.
Exactly My point...Mum might have done wrong but I don't think she deserve to be disrespected by Zwai...The dead no nothing even if he goes to the grave ., Blessing Comes from God and his Mother because she is still. alive...
Zwai's mother may have made mistakes in life but Zwai seems not to be respecting his mother, he must really deal his own problems okoko umshato kamama no tat jafta . Ubomi abumanga
Strue nangoku babaleka nesali ngoba lomama watshata no tata ka Phelo wazala uPhelo o deemakaar. Washiya u Phelo mo Loyiso bebancinci u Zwayi and Pinky became deputy parents at a tender age. Utata u Jafta was a best friend kayise ka Pinky no Zwayi bezicouples eziziztshomi duku duku wasweleka uNozulo umfazi ka Jafta and 3months down the line bayatshata ngamagama athini, bawufihla lomtshato ababaxelela abantwana why? Something fishy apha kulomtshato. I like Pinky and Zwayi..they very intelligent Zwayi is an intellectual soze umbhanxe u clever lamfana
Also this thing of confronting your parents ngendlela esileyo will never make you a wise man. Mdala gqitha uMzwandile atsho ngengxaki zakhe ezinkulu angazhoyanga abe ephehluzelisa abantu abadala. Hay. Makathethe lento aythethayo ayeke ugezela abantu. UTat Jafta noMamakhe sebetshatile, inye into emakuthethwe ngayo ngoku yi way forward qha. Not babe bebuza inqala apha
As well as umama got married and left the 2 first borns to be deputy parents, they can't change it now. They must just forgive their mother and move forward to find peace. She is happy with utatu Jafta. There's one thing I learn in life is full of lessons and their mother went through a lot with their father. They need to support her and accept her new husband because she is now happy 😊 They need to enjoy life with their mother and not regret it if she is no more even if utatu Jafta is another mistake she's making. They are also not perfect after all. Nobody's perfect here. They must love and accept each other as they are and put behind to focus in the future. You seem to be looking at each others mistakes and imperfections more than the beautiful things each one has. You are such a beautiful family, focus on that now please so that you can abantwana baka Tatu Jafta in.
You are right, yet wrong. Yes, she needs someone, but the way she went about it is SUSPECT. Marriage is between families. They should have informed the children, instead they sneaked off and got married. Even worse, Bab Jafta doesn't have a job, which means the children are still looking after their mother, so what is the point of that marriage? Why are these old people acting like this?
The marriage was wrong from the start, how can one get married after three months of a partner’s passing. Umama ka Zwai don’t want to listen to reason. She love marriage so much and she’s been jeopardising the future of her children and she never sees that even at this age. Their only reason is I don’t wanna die alone that’s not enough ke, Umama owes apologie to her children and she keeps on defending herself that’s very wrong of her.
I feel like Zwai is totally disrespectful in how he's speaking to their mom. There are things that parents would do that would bring so much pain ku-abantwana. But I think nathi as kids, our approach in opening up and bringing those issues to our elders, should be done in humiluty and respect. uZwai is even throwing up his hands when he's talking to his mom, No! Parents should also know ukuthi how they do things in their own lives will affect children. Unfortunately, uMama and Tatu jafta should expect questions from their children of HOW they went on about to get married. Getting married is not the issue, but HOW they did it considering other family aspects in place, will become difficult for children to just easily accept it.
You are accusing him, Zwayi is the most responsible one and the coolest of them all and is very honest. When the truth is sour I know people criticized the honest guy and the truthful one
@@xoliswamartin6714 and there's nothing wrong with being criticized or corrected, because a wise man allows correction. You won't always be right even if you can be a responsible one. You are human. Also, speaking and upholding the truth at all times is very important. But speaking the truth does not mean you have to do it disrespectfully and in a way you lack humility. That is being a pure fool. Speak the truth, but speak it in love and respect, then you will win the honor of people and of God.
@@katlegomolokoe4437I think he’s hurt and angry, the responsible people are defensive and don’t want to be held accountable; it understandably makes him disrespectful.
As bad as this may look and sound... Is everyone willing to come to a point of acceptance because everyone in life does need to live their lives to the fullest and Mom has ran out of jobs but she's still in their lives... Are they willing to accept their mother's bad decisions and move on or will they be happy if they divorced and then what? Mama just gets depressed or what? I need to understand? As bad as the situation is what do they need mama to do... If she acknowledges and apologized will they accept that mama wants to be happy too at some point in her life? I just need understanding?
Yes, they need to hear her say that she is sorry for all the pain and suffering she has cause them and maybe explain why she didn't tell them of her marriages.
Let's not judge uzwai here,I understand where he's coming from,I sympathize with zwai,while I also sympathize with utat ujafta,but Mr jafta failed to answer zwai's questions,3months after ur wife is dead u marry ur late friend's wife,on top of that when u introduce urself to ur step children u never for once mention their father who was ur friend,u act as if he never existed,to me that's cold hearted from tat jafta, as I am trying to put myself in zwai's shoes,as I had a slightly similar upbringing,I would also not welcome him.
@@Madikslife true mntase,that Mr jafta has no honour and no dignity,if he did at least have one of the above,he would ensure that he builds his own house ,with his own money and call it his and mama kazwai' home,just to show that he values his honour and dignity, sadly mntase yimpilo yethu kwezifamily zethu
Pinky is the biggest problem within the family. Let's not shy away from that fact. She, followed by Zwai, just bcos he feels he is the first born son. Shem, he's a fumble. Yoooo!😮😮 Pinky wants to bully everyone, including umakakazi Jen. I mean, how do u ask a married woman if their husband is the most important person in 🎉🎉 the family??? 😂😂. Pinky needs to get married in order to understand. She clearly needsssss some play time😮😮. Pinky needs to get married first before asking big, married girls questions.. Pls...
No wonder they did not tell them about their marriage😂😂 how do you explain to a child that doesn't want to listen instead they want you to say things the way they want😮😮 I get that they're angry but the way Zwai raised this issue to the parents is not on cause it comes off disrespectful because of his tone🚶🚶can Zwai & Pinky focus on fixing their lives & allow other people to live theirs cause they'll never fix everyone else
But she does not even see a need to ask for forgiveness while imposing stranger into the lives of abantwana bakhe, I do not think this is about her happiness but it's about also sharing a space with this man & provide for him instead of him taking care of Lomama. U Zwai akafihli makhuba kulinywa I love that about him & most of the time such people are misunderstood.
Mama ka Zwayi makabe straightforward asuse umbuzo kuye aphendule abantwana kakuhle, Mama ka Zwayi une defensive mechanism she needs to adress her kids, special the kids that ended up being deputy parents and it looks like Mama was busy searching for love while Pinky and Zwayi were parenting on her behalf now uthi u Zwayi inengxaki and of cause usenoba nayo ingxaki u Zwayi ngoba he has never enjoyed ubuntwana nobutsha bakhe ngoba he was busy taking care of a family and he became an adult ese immatured being a parent its not a child's play usemncinci special financial and otherwise..and also children they think deep , Jafta was a friend to tata ka Loyiso and Nozuko the late wife ka Jafta was a friend kumaka Zwayi and the period they got married its funny hence its suspicious that they had an affair while tata ka Zwayi was still alive hence they had no guts to come clean, where there is smoke there is fire and now qha umama ka Zwayi ubaleka ne Sali kunye ne bhere yakhe engu bra J ayithanda kakhulu, u Zwayi is wounded no Pinky and lo tata u Jafta uze kanye Nkosi akamisi nto and asiyazi u Nozuko Jafta the late wife wabulawa sisttoke ne stress xa kwakutheni ngoba in this story u Bawo u Jafta once said umfazi wakhe wabulawa si stress Kuba engaphangeli yena tata u Jafta, it doesn't make sense now that there ate lots of unanswered questions kule couple yaka Mrs Jafta as for Bawo u Jafta ngu dyakalashe onkone obaleka nesijungqe sentambo mntaka Bawo andifuni kungatsho . U Zwayi is on point with Pinky shame nangoku umama uyabaleka cause in reality ababantu bebezitshomi friends ke are like relative so iyamangaza xa umntu atshate nomyeni we tshomi it sound immoral and Mama ka Zwayi akafuni kungenwe kulo mba ngoba ayiqhelekanga ine element yokuba nemohlisela e gqwirhi. And ke u Zwayi said he spoke to the grave with his dad and promised to look after his assets
And she's so defensive instead of answering the question, your husband died and six month later you are already in another marriage? When did you start dating the new man it's obvious that they started dating long before their spouse died and worse to her husband's friend 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@phumzagalada6263 Imagine 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣in his defense he said uzwai is still a child he is not matured yet, how do you develop feelings for your friend's wife🙄🙄🙄
So kuba owakhe umtshato ungazange ulunge he can't have an opinion or express his feelings? Zwai was not even married when his mother etshata notata kaPhelo behind their backs, lomama ngumntu wemikhuba lonto ayifuni noba ubenomtshato perfect
I honestly feel that zwai and sis pinky are just bitter because of their failed marriages and they just want to control those that are happily married such as Jen and loyiso, Tata jefta and mama. They should just focus on their own lives and not drag their own issues to other people's marriages.
Maybe their father died a broken man because of this affair!That's just another angle!Or worst more, maybe the deceased spouses were deleted by the duo!!! Remember they tied the knot in 6 months of the passing of the wife!
I would feel the same if my mother would marry and not even bother to tell me. Worse marrying one of my dad’s friends hahaha. Tatu Jafta nomama babaxolise and admit that they didn’t consider abantwana babo. Because both sides of the kids found this marriage weird. That was also very fast after the deaths of the spouse
No you are wrong zwai and pinkie are not bitter and it's got nothing to do with their marriages, ba ryti balungise apho Ku rongp khona they are trying uba kubekho I unity I hope mna uba this family will come together Xa zizawlunga izinto kuqala kubenje
Nonsense, marriage is between families, hwo are the children going to do things the right way if the elders can't?. Mama and Tata should have informed the children before they got married. Mama has shown no leadership little wonder her children's marriages failed!
Her mom's marriage to Tatu Jafta has nothing to do with him. Her mother is happy with this man that is all that matters, he is in no position to choose a husband for her mom. It's time he starts minding his business uZwai😮
It's unfair to say that. The child is the father of the man. It sounds like Zwai's mother was kind of absent and Zwai had to fight his battles as well as look after his siblings. His mother enjoyed the benefits of his success but has never tended to his wounds, that is why they have anger issues as evidenced by the tics. In an interview, Zwai talked about how he was the 1st Black boy at the Drakensberg boys choir school and he was bullied so hard, parents pulled their children out of the school and at one point he told his dad (who was very sick and lying on his death) ukuthi he wanted to leave the school, but his father instructed him to stay on and be the key that would open the door for Loyiso and other Black boys to get into that school. That is A LOT for a child to deal with. Zwai is a REVOLUTIONARY, he was in the trenches fighting and it's clear he has PTSD. He's angry that his mother never saw his wounds, she enjoyed the benefits but failed to mother. And she's still making everything about her. Yes, she's entitled to be happy, but she must make sure her children are also happy.
Ufanele ukutji itatau Jafta banegqdo emdaka it's because maybe bayenzile into emdaka bona bengabazali boo Loyiso yilento nomama wabo explaining utyiwa sisazele..the next mama Zwayi when a question arised from Zwayi side uya jumper unomsindo qhanqalaza uthi u Zwayi enegxaki kodwa ngabo nalampungutye u Jafta ithi bathetha isintwana apha.mama ka Zwayi no tata Jafta soxe ibe kanti babengabani ngalendlela ba behavior ngayo if duck diving
Even so must it be the matter on the table everytime they meet, waxolisa mos. I think laba they just want her to divorce yiyo into ezobapholisa because akekho owasho ukuthi ufuna kwenzakalani now that they are married. It's not that they don't know what they want, it's because they know ukuthi le abayifunayo iwrong and yinkihlakalo. We are not saying she was right kodwa uzophumula nini? One think they must know we are living on borrowed times kusasa uzohamba lomama and they will miss the time to move on and create beautiful memories with her and all their kids.
@@khumalolungile973 Why must the children move on? Why can't Mama apologise for the way she did things? Marriage is supposed to be between families, parents tell their children that everyday. So what are the children supposed to do when parents deviate from the script and elope? The very least these parents are supposed to do is apologise, but instead of apologising they are getting defensive. Also, in an earlier episode, Pinky said, Bab Jafta brings nothing to do the table, meaning they still have to look after their mother financially, even after all these years. So what is the point of her getting a man, to keep her warm at night, meanwhile the children have to subsidise her and by extension him? Nonsense.
I hear mama Veronica, this lady loves herself and she put herself first. Her happiness matters. She doesn't want to grow alone. These are not kids anymore, zaai must stop thiking he is the father digure to every1 and sort his love life. His marraige failed, he is interfering on everybody's love life whereas his is not make sure. He must just stop.
In olden Days even from the Same Family ,if the Husband pass on they use to Allow the Brother to marry that Widow ...Father when He Pass on He was not Married to Mama they Seoarated long time ago and there was another Child Phelo..So now why must Zwayi fight for His Father who never took Good care of his Mom..?while he was still alive ? OoMabuya kwendeni bayathanda ukuba nengxaki they not suppose to go back Home they Suppose to go out Bayozimela and not come and try to change things at Home ...Tatu Jafta s Children are Happy that their Father is happy bathi for 6x Months after rhe death of his Wife he was Drinking heavy and ebuya ebusuku ...meaning it affected him He was stressing until he moved on which is He has every right to move on..and The Mother deserves to be Happy .You must Respect your Mother and Father so you can leave long ...Why question start of relationship whats that to do with you ..its disrespectful Bhuti Zwayi needs to heal..He has issues If Tata Jafta had lot of Money they were not going to have problem ...Uyamrhuka ngoku uMama xa ubuza iqale niini?ingathi ebethandana esaphila iNkosikazi hayi I dont think so ....Why fight for the Father who was not there....when he was still alive Its obvios He was not there for your Mom now She find Love and happiness with Tata Jafta what does the Family want them to do now abantu abadala ..Haaibo
Zwai is very disrespectful towards his mother and he thinks the universe owes him something. His mother is married to Tata Jafta and he must make peace with that
Andingevuyi if umama wam could find somebody after my dad's passing because now that I have my own situations I know how important to have someone. But our mothers are oppressed with that mentality that they have to protect the clan and surname of the dead guy. Let parents have companionship guys. Ku rough out there. She is happy with Tat u Jafta. Let her be. Problems are there but peace is good
Zwai needs to stop, listen and understand the statement that his mother made pertaining to the question “what did their father ever do for me in this life” that statement answers a whole fiasco
More than anything else the problem is mama being married to a friend of their late father nabo bamoshile kodwa kanjalo abantu abadala they both need to apologies to these kids buqhubeke ubom.
Dad died in 1982, she married Tata Jafta in 2016. That's a looong time gap to cry about, especially since she married someone else in between that time. Old people are drawn to what is familiar, maybe she fell for him BECAUSE he reminds her of their father 💔
I think parents will always be our parents..i feel vuyo..what ever the name..is very disrespectful..and he shouldnt take the his fathers position..he must grow up and take his position as a man and fix his racked life first..am not impressed with him..very disappointed ma yens..mxm.
Zwai and Pink are so rude that is why they relationships never work out.Go back to the drawing board yourselves and fix your own marriages. Leave u mama alone ,she too desires to be loved and be happy. You had a problem with u Loyiso no Phelo, do you not think the main problem is you and tjhis sister of your enifuna ukuphatha naye lomndeni?
i think u Mama no Tata u jafta should be apologizing to their childred and understand where they are coming from. i think eyonanto that hurts them more its lo tata wayengu frd ka tata wabo.
Bathong guys😂😂😂😂. Lo mama ongu Pinky nala tata ongu Mzwandile must just fix their lives and sort themselves out. Hheeyii! They want to live their failed lives through others . Jjjjeeeeerrrr!!! They now want to control everyone. Hehehehee! " I've spoken to utata that I will stand for you". 😂😂😂 That time he failed to stand for himself as a man... 🫣🫣🫣
In an interview, Zwai talked about how he was the 1st Black boy at the Drakensberg boys choir school and he was bullied so hard, parents pulled their children out of the school and at one point he told his dad (who was very sick and lying on his death bed) ukuthi he wanted to leave the school, but his father instructed him to stay on, and be the key that would open the door for Loyiso and other Black boys to get into that school. That is A LOT for a child to deal with. Zwai is a REVOLUTIONARY, he was in the trenches fighting and it's clear he has PTSD. He's angry that his mother never saw his wounds, she enjoyed the benefits but failed to mother him.
Granted uMama and Mr Bala separated in 1982, and then he died in 1988. At which point she got married to Phelo's father but the marriage failed within a year (circa 1991). She married Tata Jafta in 2018...30 years after Zwai's father's passing. The big beef is the fact that they got married 3 months after Tata Jafta's wife passed on; the speed and secrecy are the problem! I think the marriage triggered Zwai, he feels like his mother is more bothered about her things; she failed to look after them when they were young (and I'm not talking money, I'm talking emotional support...did she know Zwai was being bullied at school, and how did she encourage him to overcome the challenges?).
Also, marriage is between families, and the elders are supposed to guide the young. uMama got married quietly and without involving the family and now she wants the children to just blend and play happy families. Marriages are already a problem in the family as evidenced by the fact that 3 children are divorced. Phelo did not even invite all his siblings to his wedding. uMama is not even taking into consideration that Tat Jafta's children feel a certain way about the way their father remarried so quickly. Mam Veronica better be careful cause Tat Jafta's children may well light into her.
Exactly I agree with you. She failed as a mother to them. What was important is her love life
Sadly, even in her old age,her love life still comes first!The children must finance it and tow the line!!Heish!This mother is an epitomy of selfishness!With Phelo,the apple didn't fall far from the tree!!!
U explained this like a professional, well understood
Mama, you dou le crossed your kids, and acceptance you deny, why Ma'am? Do you really have that parental love, care and respect for them? Zwai is o it, and ma'am supposed you proud of all of your kids, instead you let the "crack" expand, no my love, think again lol. Who'se the most important to you fictionalized, or family love and unity? Think again lol, please.
My son went to Drakensberg at an early age, it was tough. I had to fight for him as a single parent and I think I did a good job, (my take and my experience,presence of parent/parents was important.).
I really dont understand the hate on Zwai. If you have never be put in the situation where it seems like their mother always chooses a new man over her kids, gets married without telling them, stays with a man in their family's house then is still being supported because Mr Jafta brings nothing to the table. Like guys. When will a generation hold the other accountable? Toxic parents never want to be questioned.
Thank you for stating facts
Thank you dear,people are endorsing wrong behaviour from people.
Mama ka Zwayi ngu Nikhodimo wethu
Thank you! On top of that the man was his dad’s friend. Unobukhebereshe lomama
Tatu jaffa makaphume pha
She got married to her ex husband friend 😮.
They got married after tatah Jafter wife passed sway .
They did not inform they kids cos they know ihlazo nje lento.
Tata Jafter stays kwamama parents house, they dont have their own house 🏠.
Maka Mzwandile was friends with Tata Jafter wife 😢.... This whole is affecting the kids
I don't blame Mzwandile
Xabengakwazi ukuphendula mabaphume kuloPinky azibonakalise lotata ukuba uyindoda bathenge umzi or bayofuna inxiwa emakhaya...kunganyiwa kum ....uhurtisha abantwana kanje....
Zwai and sis Pinky problem is not only that their mom married utat Jafta, its a whole lot of things including the fact that they had to play parent to their younger siblings while mama was not around, busy with life..they angry with her. She needs to acknowledge. They couldn't been kids.
Amen
100% true. Mama had robbed them their childhood and that forced them to play parental role at a very young age. Makangadikwa zi choices azenzileyo.Zwai &Pinky beve kabuhlungu😢
So true. In an interview, Zwai talked about how he was the 1st Black boy at the Drakensberg boys choir school and he was bullied so hard, parents pulled their children out of the school and at one point he told his dad (who was very sick and lying on his death) ukuthi he wanted to leave the school, but his father instructed him to stay on and be the key that would open the door for Loyiso and other Black boys to get into that school. That is A LOT for a child to deal with. Zwai is a REVOLUTIONARY, he was in the trenches fighting and it's clear he has PTSD. He's angry that his mother never saw his wounds, she enjoyed the benefits but failed to mother.
So true and it hurts even more when the mother still doesn't get, she just want to be correct always
now I understand.
Zwai's anger is warranted, the problem is the delivery.
mmmm.anger is the problem.
Tatu Jafta has a lot to say about Zwai when he is not infront of him, kodwa phambi kwakhe sisishwayimbana 😂😂😂
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He scares me,those eyes of his! Ayi nomaka Zwai ,wabonani kulendoda.😵💫
Tata Jafta kaloku wayethe woyika impumlo ka Zwayi xa ishukuma ubona ngayo xa enomsindo ngathi angamfaka impama kutsho la dokoloshe u bawo uJafta exoka phofu..deforming charector ka Zwayi ezilungele.
@@xoliswamartin6714 Uyedelela lo tikoloshe.I remember when he said that.
@@mazwide9400 Ndigqitywa ziziqhitsi ne make up ebengezelayo ku Father Jafta 😃 😀 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂
I just love this family, I love ta Zwayi even more now.,
If the question is asked and the person is so defensive instead of answering it just know that is not make sure 😂😂😂
I totally understand Zwai
For some reason I understand the children's sentiments, Zwai's mom got married to Phelo's father, the children did not know, parted with him. Tat'uJafta loses his wife, less than three months he gets married. Something does not add up... My take.
I share your sentiment.I can't see why they couldn't have told their adult children about the marriage, except for the fact that there was something underhanded about it!!!
There is no self respecting woman of African origin,who would be happy to jump into a marriage with a new widower
whom she has just started dating!!!We actually don't start new relations with people who are still mourning!!!This couple needs to be probed.They may probably just be knowing what happened to their deceased spouses!
I can relate with Zwai, until something happens to you as a child web u lose one parent and the other wanna b married again with adult children, is not easy to accept
@@nomakhwezi Very early into the show, Pinky said Tat Jafta brings nothing to the table, meaning it's the kids who are looking after uMam Veronica, and maybe subsidising Tat Jafta. So to them they don't even understand what this marriage is all about other than...intangible benefits for Mama no Tata. Little wonder they're pissed.
@@whizzkidkis I get their point and struggle to understand particularly their mother!This Mama is shocking!
She doesn't acknowledge that her love was at the expense of uPinky noZwai, who had to step in as parents. Akho mntu namona ngaTat'uJafta (bombastic side eye). She neglects her kids when she has a man.
Thank you for the truth sana 🙏
They've been married for 6 years, Pinky and Zwai didn't raise the other two during this marriage.
Maybe mama had boyfriends in the past and that was her focus, I get where the resentment could come from, but why take it out on Tatu Jafta?
@@Mmeme2023coz even though he is her husband he still brings nothing to the table! They are still feeding n maintaining their mother n him in thier home which they can't even do traditional rituals without asking for jaftas approval!!
very very very true she loves her kids when she's in love with the father
Mama can live her life ...she's a beautiful grown woman she doesn't need anyone's approval 😊❤
She does if she will be married but is still her kids responsibility.Her husband does absolutely nothing for her.He is also a burden to them because they can't support their mother and discard her partner🤷🏿♀️
uZwai is right he wants clarity from both of them but Tata and mama are over protective over their relationship. It's very sad
These parents under estimated the intelligence of their children.There is something underhanded about their relationship and they want their children to ratify it!There is no way you can fall in love and marry within six months of the passing of your spouse!They must come clean and apologize to their children!!!
I have a crush on indoda yaMel 🙈 he is a true revolutionary
Parents needs to own up to their mistakes . They are hurting their children because of their choices. After them experiencing hurt they will go back to the very same children and ask for care and support. It is too much for children to bear on their shoulders and the hearts. At the end of the day they are their parents and they are loved by their children..Discussion is key among the parties..
Why did they tie the knot in secret, they are elders with underhanded tactics. Respect is earned bakwethu, umama no Tata Jafta barong on how they handled their marriage and apologies
Still it is their knot to tie, this nonsense to think other people's lives should revolve around yours is ridiculous.
These 2 parents need to take accountability for their actions. How do you get married without your kids.
I just love zwai❤
If these parents expect children to support the marriage then Zwai has every right to ask clarity seeking questions, bathule ke abathanda ipeace while he's been viewed as rude.
Zwai takes it too far. I understand the mother should have told the kids but Zwai he acts perfect maan. His life is a mess but busy judging everyone.
Hayini bethunana sanumjaja u Zwayi ufanele kaloku kufuneka ayazi yonke ingcombolo kamama wabo ngoba xa sele lomtshato unengxaki Zwayi will be in for it. Zwayi is such a wise guy. They need to know marriage contract yabo ngoba kune family house elilikhaya labo bonke abazukulwana base Mangwevini and ke siziqhelile iinkamela kwelilizwe ingene endlini yabantu ijike xa kubhubhe lomntu ibingene ngayo and own it bashiyeke bengenakhaya the custodians, big up Zwayi dig more abs deep information about this marriage and check safety ye family ngoba kalokunelilizwe sophila kulo ligcwele abarhwaphiliI noo zungulichele kanti umntu hjonge lendlu neI benefits zelikhaya. So u Zwayi make everybody uncomfortable ngale wisdom yakhe and u Zwayi ufuna kucace ukuba ithini I direction yalomtshato kanina ingathi kanti u Bawo u Jafta yinkamela into zininzi kwelilizwe linamalungelo ajingxelayo...
Zwai be like "What problem mama',,,,"ok express yourself mama" ...Zwai is confrontational not that he does not respect the mother...nawe mama you are so defensive
Yes, & people always misunderstood straight talk and regard it as disrespect.
Exactly akho nyani kule marriage. Kukho nje into efihlwayo
Mama ka Zwayi got married no tata ka Phelo kwazalwa u Phelo. Lo mama washiyela uxanduva u Zwayi no Pinki to raised abantwana bakhe uxanduva olunzima uZwayi no Pinky abalithwaliswa ngumama wabo at a very tender age Zwayi and Pinky became Parents to Loyiso and Phelo aba bangamboniyo ke phofu u Zwayi. Duku duku Tata u Jafta was a best friend ka Tata u Bala utata ka Zwayi, no Nozuko umfazi ka Jafta were close friends with mama ka Zwayi. The late Mrs Jafta wabulawa si stress 3months down Mrs Bala became Mrs Jafta for almost 6yrs without informing thier children why? Baboyika ntoni ukubaxelela abantwana babo it means there is an underlying Agenda. Khona kutheni utata u Jafta esithi bane dirty minds bacinga utata u Jafta wayeduola beaaphila of which Zwayi khange atsho ngabo abatshoyo. hence u Zwayi esitsho that he will stand for his dad..She is defending herself by shifting ingxaki yakhe ku Zwayi and there is nothing wrong Zwayi expressing ingxaki yakhe kunina yena unina must respond and not react ngoba itacaca ukuba kukhona unyawo lwemfene..u tata u Jafta kunzima ukuphendula umbuzo ka Zwayi asking how does it feel to tata u Jafta when Zwayi was not speaking to his mother as a matured man a step father uva njani ke nyani xa u Zwayi engatjetji nonina...Zwayi is protecting his family kulangcuka ingu Jafta ihlala kulomama ka Zwayi babaleka ntoni bangafuni thier own house ke nyani. Mama ka Zwayi is not grateful akugqitywa ukwenzelwa I favour ngu Zwayi . Still mama ka Zwayi unomsindo iyabaleka uxakwe yimibuzo ka Zwayi and ubuza ifact u Mzwandile shame akaphenduli utata uJafta xa ebuzwa ngu Zwayi
She is irresponsible nangoku
We respect our parents, let us not forget that we were raised by our siblings while our mothers were GROOVISTS
😭😭😭😭 no ways!!!
Injalo
@@Estell-o3t a
Speak for yourself my mom struggled for us that’s why I’m found everything for her . She never even took a sip of alcohol.
Tat'uJafta's children are calm about this thing!They lost a mother and when the wound was still fresh,their father who was supposed to have been grieving, married this woman! Heish,I am sorry,but I feel exactly the same way Zwai feels!I can't handle betrayal!!!
True sisi..this is sad but their parents change the matter instead of taking responsibility and apologize
May be it was a relief to them as he is an irresponsible father
Mama Zwai, she needs to reflect on her life and the decisions, she made at the expense of her children. She married Phelo father and Japta without involving her children. She has three children from the same father and one child from another father. Phelo feels alienated from his siblings, while the three feel alienated from their mother. Mama Zwai comes across as selfish not accommodating her children's feelings. And how is Mr. Japta contributing to this household. He sleeps in his wife's house and he eats another man's children money in the process. Zwai and his siblings have the right to be hurt.
@@shishi1527 exactly
The way uMama is so defensive ngakhona.
She is really so defensive
Why did she marry without telling her kids? When people are about to marry they tell the world. I don't get it
Because it was too soon for her to get married again hence she did not tell her kid's knowing that they will not agree worse to her husband's friend 😂😂
@@kellnessbanda2767 It was too soon for HIM to get married. His wife had only been dead for 3 months. uMama on the other hand had been lasted married in 1989/1990 (to Phelo's father). Zwai's dad passed in 1988, she married Phelo's father in 1989 or 1990, Phelo was born in early 1991, I think his parents separated in 1992.
@@whizzkidkis she never married Phelo's father. He was just a bf. Otherwise, Phelo would be using his father's surname but he isn't. The 2nd husband, who was abusive is a different man.
@@lungilekhuzwayo8516 Wow, so there's Phelo's father, and then another problematic man? Wow! No wonder the children are upset. uMama has had a lot of drama in her life, which impacted them in many ways. I believe their issue with uTat Jafta includes the fact that he doesn't earn enough to support their mother- Pinky mentioned they still have to look after uMama. I know money is not God, but it sure makes the world go round.
@@whizzkidkis Yes they absolutely have a reason to be mad. She left uPhelo with Pinky & Zwai after finding husband no. 2. Being a parent has never been a priority to her. It also makes sense why Zwai and Pinky are so messed up & controlling, they literally raised Phelo & Loyiso while they were kids too. Now the mom wants them to act like a happy blended family after she neglected her kids all these years & later married their father's friend who can't even provide for himself. There is absolutely no need for this 3rd marriage. They also have no business being Pastors while they can't even be real with themselves.
This mama can’t take criticism well .. she up and ran 😂😂 but truth hurts
Akasadiki maarn tat Jafta, everyone is immatured/childish while they are raising valid points/questions. Instead of clarifying issues at hand.
He wouldn't dare say those words in Zwai's face. Earthworm yotata
@@ntoshmaseko8372 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My question kuZwai ,it's ok to respect ancestors and their wishes but it's difficult to respect your living parent and her wishes.
That is a good question..
Mama disrespected herself when she ran off and got married in haste to a man who had just lost his wife. Marriage is between families, parents are supposed to lead the way, instead Mama got into a marriage quickly, and she married a man who doesn't even provide for her,s so her children still have to provide and they are wondering what is the point of Mama having a man. Being a parent is not a joke you have to think TEN times, not TWICE before you do something.
Exactly My point...Mum might have done wrong but I don't think she deserve to be disrespected by Zwai...The dead no nothing even if he goes to the grave ., Blessing Comes from God and his Mother because she is still. alive...
So asking for inyani from our parents is disrespect? They are still battling with childhood trauma bebadala. Parents should take accountability.
@@estherlekgate6435 suxoka khange angamhloniphi yhini ukumtyhola kangaka umntanomntu..
Zwai's mother may have made mistakes in life but Zwai seems not to be respecting his mother, he must really deal his own problems okoko umshato kamama no tat jafta . Ubomi abumanga
Guys I love Zwai ❤ ❤❤❤
Me to hey..how I wish it could air up to season 10😁
give ur Mom a break..she deserve to be happy and she is happy
Happy ohh no libele kudyola abantwana abavani
@@nobantumarele9028😂😂😂😂
Lol they have to feed him
@@swipethru3286 I will never feed an old man who is not my father. Never
Yintoni undihlekisa 😂😂🤣🤣
Utatu Jafta kudala wayencwase lomama no one can tell me otherwise😂😂😂😂😂
Strue nangoku babaleka nesali ngoba lomama watshata no tata ka Phelo wazala uPhelo o deemakaar. Washiya u Phelo mo Loyiso bebancinci u Zwayi and Pinky became deputy parents at a tender age. Utata u Jafta was a best friend kayise ka Pinky no Zwayi bezicouples eziziztshomi duku duku wasweleka uNozulo umfazi ka Jafta and 3months down the line bayatshata ngamagama athini, bawufihla lomtshato ababaxelela abantwana why? Something fishy apha kulomtshato. I like Pinky and Zwayi..they very intelligent Zwayi is an intellectual soze umbhanxe u clever lamfana
@@xoliswamartin6714injalo cc
😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣true
Also this thing of confronting your parents ngendlela esileyo will never make you a wise man. Mdala gqitha uMzwandile atsho ngengxaki zakhe ezinkulu angazhoyanga abe ephehluzelisa abantu abadala. Hay. Makathethe lento aythethayo ayeke ugezela abantu. UTat Jafta noMamakhe sebetshatile, inye into emakuthethwe ngayo ngoku yi way forward qha. Not babe bebuza inqala apha
As well as umama got married and left the 2 first borns to be deputy parents, they can't change it now. They must just forgive their mother and move forward to find peace. She is happy with utatu Jafta.
There's one thing I learn in life is full of lessons and their mother went through a lot with their father. They need to support her and accept her new husband because she is now happy 😊 They need to enjoy life with their mother and not regret it if she is no more even if utatu Jafta is another mistake she's making.
They are also not perfect after all. Nobody's perfect here. They must love and accept each other as they are and put behind to focus in the future.
You seem to be looking at each others mistakes and imperfections more than the beautiful things each one has. You are such a beautiful family, focus on that now please so that you can abantwana baka Tatu Jafta in.
Atleast eat first! when you get to tables full of good good...
Then start your grievances,which you dont have to be too emotional❤
🤣🤣🤣So true! As they say, a hungry man is an angry man.
Zwai is unfair to his mom's choices why is he questioning their marriage and doesn't even wanna understand her point of view, not fair at all
Express yourself mama😂😂
"I'm done" 😅
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😂😂😂
" Instead ngoku siy hurtisheka"
"Yes"...... yhooooo. Nka loma lotata
Zwai and Pinky feel betrayed.... Tatu Jafta & mama are defensive but still bafuna abatwana badibane which is very unfair for all the kids.
Guys cmon 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 uMama also has feelings she needs someone to be by her side & she has the right to choose who she wants to be with 😞😞😞😞😓
You are right, yet wrong. Yes, she needs someone, but the way she went about it is SUSPECT. Marriage is between families. They should have informed the children, instead they sneaked off and got married. Even worse, Bab Jafta doesn't have a job, which means the children are still looking after their mother, so what is the point of that marriage? Why are these old people acting like this?
Yhooo this show is no longer downloaded on you tube, episode 13😢
Andidikwe
If Jafta pass away, I bet mana will find another man to marry!
Uyayidinga ipartner qha lo mzali 😂😂
@@ntoshmaseko8372 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She will be 90 years old getting remarried. I can totally see it🤣🤣🤣
@@ntoshmaseko8372 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The marriage was wrong from the start, how can one get married after three months of a partner’s passing. Umama ka Zwai don’t want to listen to reason. She love marriage so much and she’s been jeopardising the future of her children and she never sees that even at this age. Their only reason is I don’t wanna die alone that’s not enough ke, Umama owes apologie to her children and she keeps on defending herself that’s very wrong of her.
Mama and Tatu Jafta should find their own place . Why engusibayeni uJafta ? 😫
Love this family ❤❤
I feel like Zwai is totally disrespectful in how he's speaking to their mom. There are things that parents would do that would bring so much pain ku-abantwana. But I think nathi as kids, our approach in opening up and bringing those issues to our elders, should be done in humiluty and respect. uZwai is even throwing up his hands when he's talking to his mom, No!
Parents should also know ukuthi how they do things in their own lives will affect children. Unfortunately, uMama and Tatu jafta should expect questions from their children of HOW they went on about to get married. Getting married is not the issue, but HOW they did it considering other family aspects in place, will become difficult for children to just easily accept it.
Respect goes along way ,Mama kuqala akananyan
Zwai hle 🖐️🙉😭💔
You are accusing him, Zwayi is the most responsible one and the coolest of them all and is very honest. When the truth is sour I know people criticized the honest guy and the truthful one
@@xoliswamartin6714 and there's nothing wrong with being criticized or corrected, because a wise man allows correction. You won't always be right even if you can be a responsible one. You are human. Also, speaking and upholding the truth at all times is very important. But speaking the truth does not mean you have to do it disrespectfully and in a way you lack humility. That is being a pure fool. Speak the truth, but speak it in love and respect, then you will win the honor of people and of God.
@@katlegomolokoe4437I think he’s hurt and angry, the responsible people are defensive and don’t want to be held accountable; it understandably makes him disrespectful.
As bad as this may look and sound... Is everyone willing to come to a point of acceptance because everyone in life does need to live their lives to the fullest and Mom has ran out of jobs but she's still in their lives... Are they willing to accept their mother's bad decisions and move on or will they be happy if they divorced and then what? Mama just gets depressed or what? I need to understand? As bad as the situation is what do they need mama to do... If she acknowledges and apologized will they accept that mama wants to be happy too at some point in her life? I just need understanding?
The problem is she is not apologizing instead is defensive and she is not accountable on her misdeeds
Mama needs to apologize for marrying a broke man who is now an extra financial burden on her children.
Yes, they need to hear her say that she is sorry for all the pain and suffering she has cause them and maybe explain why she didn't tell them of her marriages.
Let's not judge uzwai here,I understand where he's coming from,I sympathize with zwai,while I also sympathize with utat ujafta,but Mr jafta failed to answer zwai's questions,3months after ur wife is dead u marry ur late friend's wife,on top of that when u introduce urself to ur step children u never for once mention their father who was ur friend,u act as if he never existed,to me that's cold hearted from tat jafta, as I am trying to put myself in zwai's shoes,as I had a slightly similar upbringing,I would also not welcome him.
I will never welcome Tat'u Jafta
Never!!!!!
Guys nyhani akukho lula ukwamkela ipartner yomzali special umama, abe ebe irresponsible from nisakhula, nalepartner ifike ingenzi mohluko qha izokwandisa ingxaki...mna ndandingadlali kwindoda kamama...ndandithi ndingena abe ephuma ngoba ubaleka inyani....ndinje ngoZwayi nam....second born kodwa ndithwele isiblings zonke.
@@Madikslife true mntase,that Mr jafta has no honour and no dignity,if he did at least have one of the above,he would ensure that he builds his own house ,with his own money and call it his and mama kazwai' home,just to show that he values his honour and dignity, sadly mntase yimpilo yethu kwezifamily zethu
Pinky is the biggest problem within the family. Let's not shy away from that fact. She, followed by Zwai, just bcos he feels he is the first born son. Shem, he's a fumble. Yoooo!😮😮
Pinky wants to bully everyone, including umakakazi Jen. I mean, how do u ask a married woman if their husband is the most important person in 🎉🎉 the family??? 😂😂. Pinky needs to get married in order to understand. She clearly needsssss some play time😮😮. Pinky needs to get married first before asking big, married girls questions.. Pls...
No wonder they did not tell them about their marriage😂😂 how do you explain to a child that doesn't want to listen instead they want you to say things the way they want😮😮 I get that they're angry but the way Zwai raised this issue to the parents is not on cause it comes off disrespectful because of his tone🚶🚶can Zwai & Pinky focus on fixing their lives & allow other people to live theirs cause they'll never fix everyone else
you are forgetting that the parents here in this instance are being cared for by the same Zwai
Umsindo ka Mother Bala- Jafta and throwing tantrums zokuthi uyayiyeka lento uyakrokrisa. Yzakuyeka ngoba kutheni? Mother Bala-Jafta makadubule umbuzo ngempendulo ayeke ukubaleka..
She knows what they did with tata Jafta
Zwai guys let your mom be happy l have see lots of people getting married to their husbands friends its not a New thing
But he should not feed an old Tat'u Jafta who came with nothing
They do not take responsibility for their actions these parents and apologize. Why?????
Your mom feels she needs companion.just allow her to enjoy..she feel she is lonely.pls guys understand her situation and help her enjoy and be happy.
I Zuma if utata loomusha engenamali
Zwai need to calm down and all need to forgive their mother for not telling them about their marriage and move on
Forgive yooo akukholula u happy yena ngoku ,ozwaii no Pink basikole people Nooooo
But she does not even see a need to ask for forgiveness while imposing stranger into the lives of abantwana bakhe, I do not think this is about her happiness but it's about also sharing a space with this man & provide for him instead of him taking care of Lomama. U Zwai akafihli makhuba kulinywa I love that about him & most of the time such people are misunderstood.
Kodwa bangalondli ela xhego lidala
Mama ka Zwayi makabe straightforward asuse umbuzo kuye aphendule abantwana kakuhle, Mama ka Zwayi une defensive mechanism she needs to adress her kids, special the kids that ended up being deputy parents and it looks like Mama was busy searching for love while Pinky and Zwayi were parenting on her behalf now uthi u Zwayi inengxaki and of cause usenoba nayo ingxaki u Zwayi ngoba he has never enjoyed ubuntwana nobutsha bakhe ngoba he was busy taking care of a family and he became an adult ese immatured being a parent its not a child's play usemncinci special financial and otherwise..and also children they think deep , Jafta was a friend to tata ka Loyiso and Nozuko the late wife ka Jafta was a friend kumaka Zwayi and the period they got married its funny hence its suspicious that they had an affair while tata ka Zwayi was still alive hence they had no guts to come clean, where there is smoke there is fire and now qha umama ka Zwayi ubaleka ne Sali kunye ne bhere yakhe engu bra J ayithanda kakhulu, u Zwayi is wounded no Pinky and lo tata u Jafta uze kanye Nkosi akamisi nto and asiyazi u Nozuko Jafta the late wife wabulawa sisttoke ne stress xa kwakutheni ngoba in this story u Bawo u Jafta once said umfazi wakhe wabulawa si stress Kuba engaphangeli yena tata u Jafta, it doesn't make sense now that there ate lots of unanswered questions kule couple yaka Mrs Jafta as for Bawo u Jafta ngu dyakalashe onkone obaleka nesijungqe sentambo mntaka Bawo andifuni kungatsho . U Zwayi is on point with Pinky shame nangoku umama uyabaleka cause in reality ababantu bebezitshomi friends ke are like relative so iyamangaza xa umntu atshate nomyeni we tshomi it sound immoral and Mama ka Zwayi akafuni kungenwe kulo mba ngoba ayiqhelekanga ine element yokuba nemohlisela e gqwirhi. And ke u Zwayi said he spoke to the grave with his dad and promised to look after his assets
And she's so defensive instead of answering the question, your husband died and six month later you are already in another marriage? When did you start dating the new man it's obvious that they started dating long before their spouse died and worse to her husband's friend 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Andisamcapukeli nalo Tata jafta uzotya lifa letshomiyakhe
@@phumzagalada6263 Imagine 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣in his defense he said uzwai is still a child he is not matured yet, how do you develop feelings for your friend's wife🙄🙄🙄
@kellnessbanda2767 bagqwirhi and Zwayi is showing them that ubabhaqile hence betwela nje and denied the whole truth
@@phumzagalada6263 yhoo lonto unxibe imake up utata wakhona ubuso biyamenyezela ske wangathi yimpungutye...
Zwai has failed his own marriage and he is not healed. Arg shame
So kuba owakhe umtshato ungazange ulunge he can't have an opinion or express his feelings? Zwai was not even married when his mother etshata notata kaPhelo behind their backs, lomama ngumntu wemikhuba lonto ayifuni noba ubenomtshato perfect
Umbi kodwa utatu jaffa yuuuuh😢😢😢😂😂😂
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It's obvious. Umthande nini kanti
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂jongau Loyiso uyandiqgiba. Utya amazipho kuyo yonke lento😂.
Ngeba u Zwai ufuna uqonda uba u Tata u Jafta umbone nini umother ba angangumfazi wakhe? During the friendship okanye after? Qha abazali bethu ibangathi uyamthuka xa ubuza inyani kuye😂.
Ngithi uzokhuluma uLoyiso , chooo wazithulela umfana😂
Loyiso is a peaceful man 😂😂😂
@@_molebogeng6281 🤣🤣 His lukewarm with everything. Never take a stand for anything.
I honestly feel that zwai and sis pinky are just bitter because of their failed marriages and they just want to control those that are happily married such as Jen and loyiso, Tata jefta and mama. They should just focus on their own lives and not drag their own issues to other people's marriages.
Maybe their father died a broken man because of this affair!That's just another angle!Or worst more, maybe the deceased spouses were deleted by the duo!!! Remember they tied the knot in 6 months of the passing of the wife!
I would feel the same if my mother would marry and not even bother to tell me. Worse marrying one of my dad’s friends hahaha. Tatu Jafta nomama babaxolise and admit that they didn’t consider abantwana babo. Because both sides of the kids found this marriage weird. That was also very fast after the deaths of the spouse
Mama libele kudyola ininzi into
No you are wrong zwai and pinkie are not bitter and it's got nothing to do with their marriages, ba ryti balungise apho Ku rongp khona they are trying uba kubekho I unity I hope mna uba this family will come together Xa zizawlunga izinto kuqala kubenje
Nonsense, marriage is between families, hwo are the children going to do things the right way if the elders can't?. Mama and Tata should have informed the children before they got married. Mama has shown no leadership little wonder her children's marriages failed!
I think Zwai is very attractive 😍 he's my type of guy
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Mzwandile is fuming boiling wt anger ....
Her mom's marriage to Tatu Jafta has nothing to do with him. Her mother is happy with this man that is all that matters, he is in no position to choose a husband for her mom. It's time he starts minding his business uZwai😮
It's unfair to say that. The child is the father of the man. It sounds like Zwai's mother was kind of absent and Zwai had to fight his battles as well as look after his siblings. His mother enjoyed the benefits of his success but has never tended to his wounds, that is why they have anger issues as evidenced by the tics. In an interview, Zwai talked about how he was the 1st Black boy at the Drakensberg boys choir school and he was bullied so hard, parents pulled their children out of the school and at one point he told his dad (who was very sick and lying on his death) ukuthi he wanted to leave the school, but his father instructed him to stay on and be the key that would open the door for Loyiso and other Black boys to get into that school. That is A LOT for a child to deal with. Zwai is a REVOLUTIONARY, he was in the trenches fighting and it's clear he has PTSD. He's angry that his mother never saw his wounds, she enjoyed the benefits but failed to mother. And she's still making everything about her. Yes, she's entitled to be happy, but she must make sure her children are also happy.
Like the part that they are staying at her family house and still supporting their mother while she has a man? Like this mama is selfish and entitled.
Get Zwai help please I wonder after watching himself 😮what he thinks
What is Tata Jafta brinfing to the tabke...kids asked. He even moved to the mama Veronica's house and he doesn't see anything wrong here! Hayi man!
Ufanele ukutji itatau Jafta banegqdo emdaka it's because maybe bayenzile into emdaka bona bengabazali boo Loyiso yilento nomama wabo explaining utyiwa sisazele..the next mama Zwayi when
a question arised from Zwayi side uya jumper unomsindo qhanqalaza uthi u Zwayi enegxaki kodwa ngabo nalampungutye u Jafta ithi bathetha isintwana apha.mama ka Zwayi no tata Jafta soxe ibe kanti babengabani ngalendlela ba behavior ngayo if duck diving
Bayenzile nangoku badliwa zizinto zabo. Thus the reason benemisindo
Mpungutye 😂😂😂 phofu uJafta akazithethi kuZwai ebusweni ezizinto uba sisi moyoywana. Akanamqolo ngumsundululu nje wexhego eliyingenayo nemali yombane
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😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂 😃 😀 uthi akanayo nemali yombane
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Entetiled adults.This women deserve to be loved.Their father wahluleka 😢
No guys omama bethu bayasithanda isidyolo ,lo ufana no wam ,sanubagxeka oozwaii people ininzi into apha Lomama akananyan
@@nobantumarele9028that's true
Even so must it be the matter on the table everytime they meet, waxolisa mos. I think laba they just want her to divorce yiyo into ezobapholisa because akekho owasho ukuthi ufuna kwenzakalani now that they are married. It's not that they don't know what they want, it's because they know ukuthi le abayifunayo iwrong and yinkihlakalo.
We are not saying she was right kodwa uzophumula nini? One think they must know we are living on borrowed times kusasa uzohamba lomama and they will miss the time to move on and create beautiful memories with her and all their kids.
@@nobantumarele9028basithanda nyan bebadala yinton mbangela ade ayongena kwitshomi yomyeni wakhe ebecimba bazoyithathanjani abantwana bakhe worse lo tata uze sesiqu sakhe ne mpahla emzini we frnd yakhe uzotyi mali iphi eyakhi ndlu funukondliwa ngabantwana betshomi yakhe yuuuu yandicapkisa lotata atshongo nyinyitheka apha
@@khumalolungile973 Why must the children move on? Why can't Mama apologise for the way she did things? Marriage is supposed to be between families, parents tell their children that everyday. So what are the children supposed to do when parents deviate from the script and elope? The very least these parents are supposed to do is apologise, but instead of apologising they are getting defensive. Also, in an earlier episode, Pinky said, Bab Jafta brings nothing to do the table, meaning they still have to look after their mother financially, even after all these years. So what is the point of her getting a man, to keep her warm at night, meanwhile the children have to subsidise her and by extension him? Nonsense.
I hear mama Veronica, this lady loves herself and she put herself first. Her happiness matters. She doesn't want to grow alone. These are not kids anymore, zaai must stop thiking he is the father digure to every1 and sort his love life. His marraige failed, he is interfering on everybody's love life whereas his is not make sure. He must just stop.
In olden Days even from the Same Family ,if the Husband pass on they use to Allow the Brother to marry that Widow ...Father when He Pass on He was not Married to Mama they Seoarated long time ago and there was another Child Phelo..So now why must Zwayi fight for His Father who never took Good care of his Mom..?while he was still alive ?
OoMabuya kwendeni bayathanda ukuba nengxaki they not suppose to go back Home they Suppose to go out Bayozimela and not come and try to change things at Home ...Tatu Jafta s Children are Happy that their Father is happy bathi for 6x Months after rhe death of his Wife he was Drinking heavy and ebuya ebusuku ...meaning it affected him He was stressing until he moved on which is He has every right to move on..and The Mother deserves to be Happy .You must Respect your Mother and Father so you can leave long ...Why question start of relationship whats that to do with you ..its disrespectful Bhuti Zwayi needs to heal..He has issues If Tata Jafta had lot of Money they were not going to have problem ...Uyamrhuka ngoku uMama xa ubuza iqale niini?ingathi ebethandana esaphila iNkosikazi hayi I dont think so ....Why fight for the Father who was not there....when he was still alive Its obvios He was not there for your Mom now She find Love and happiness with Tata Jafta what does the Family want them to do now abantu abadala ..Haaibo
Zwai is very disrespectful towards his mother and he thinks the universe owes him something. His mother is married to Tata Jafta and he must make peace with that
Lol it's easy for you to say that because it's not your money that is funding this marriage 😂😂😂
This is tough
Andingevuyi if umama wam could find somebody after my dad's passing because now that I have my own situations I know how important to have someone. But our mothers are oppressed with that mentality that they have to protect the clan and surname of the dead guy. Let parents have companionship guys. Ku rough out there. She is happy with Tat u Jafta. Let her be. Problems are there but peace is good
Why was it hard for them to tell their adult children that they were in a relationship and we're intending to get married??
Probably because the marriage with bab Jafta was just 3 months after Jafta' wife passed. (Jafta' wife was Zwai 'mom' friend)
lo mama akabahloniphi abantwana bakhe kanti badala manje
Zwai needs to stop, listen and understand the statement that his mother made pertaining to the question “what did their father ever do for me in this life” that statement answers a whole fiasco
It doesn't take away their mothers failure to be a mother to them
uTata Japhta is still not doing anything for her.🤷🏿♀️
@@kellym4exactly 💯
@@hildajomane1897 🤣🤣🤣
@@whizzkidkis 😂😂I like his calm personality but the truth must be told, he is a burden to the kids shem.
More than anything else the problem is mama being married to a friend of their late father nabo bamoshile kodwa kanjalo abantu abadala they both need to apologies to these kids buqhubeke ubom.
Exactly 💯
Dad died in 1982, she married Tata Jafta in 2016. That's a looong time gap to cry about, especially since she married someone else in between that time.
Old people are drawn to what is familiar, maybe she fell for him BECAUSE he reminds her of their father 💔
Zwai aah aah leave mama alone 😢no Zwai 😢
I think parents will always be our parents..i feel vuyo..what ever the name..is very disrespectful..and he shouldnt take the his fathers position..he must grow up and take his position as a man and fix his racked life first..am not impressed with him..very disappointed ma yens..mxm.
How does one always question that one about that that one about that, hayiboo. It's time Zwai deals with his anger, no one is perfect.
You must be a kid!
Jennifer ebetshilo it seems like abantwana bakwa Bala don't even know what they want in regards to lomtshato
I can also be angry if I chomi yatata ishata no mama,ubufebe
Ubufebe 😂😂😂😂
And vele, ke bona straight 😂😂
❤❤❤Balas
Owuu ndava buhlungu xa mama feel that pain yhooo mzwandile yima athethe kodwa mama it's true why be soloko mtshato wabo kodwa nabo banezabo 👌
Lomama akayazi lento ayenzayo ebantwaneni ibuhlungu...abantwana bafuna imfudumalo kamama wabo but yena usemathandweni....yhooo uyacaphukisa...ndilixhoba nam lomama onje....and shame nalotata ngathi uzamela abantwana bakhe at the expense yoZwayi....BAYOPHA NGAPHAKATHI ABANTWANA BAKHO MAMA.....
Spot on
Hayi noko uBhuti Zwayi is taking too far, yhini khoyeke uMntu omdala abe'Happy.
Yhuuuu😮😮😮😮omg 😲😮😮tjoooo
Yhooo hayi nomamzo sana imitshato engaka
Ndicela Khe nifunele Lo Zwai intombi plzzzz uyandicaphukisa yhooooo ukrwada
Zwai and Pink are so rude that is why they relationships never work out.Go back to the drawing board yourselves and fix your own marriages. Leave u mama alone ,she too desires to be loved and be happy. You had a problem with u Loyiso no Phelo, do you not think the main problem is you and tjhis sister of your enifuna ukuphatha naye lomndeni?
What question is thus from uMama. Who marries their ex's friend.
i think u Mama no Tata u jafta should be apologizing to their childred and understand where they are coming from. i think eyonanto that hurts them more its lo tata wayengu frd ka tata wabo.
Bathong guys😂😂😂😂. Lo mama ongu Pinky nala tata ongu Mzwandile must just fix their lives and sort themselves out. Hheeyii! They want to live their failed lives through others . Jjjjeeeeerrrr!!! They now want to control everyone.
Hehehehee! " I've spoken to utata that I will stand for you". 😂😂😂
That time he failed to stand for himself as a man... 🫣🫣🫣
Zwayi yoh 😮
Ngeba ndiyamva Bhut'Zwai qha kengok imibuzo yakhe inendelelo phakathi ingathi ufuna uphatha yonke le mitshato ikule family inguye no Sis'Pink kodwa andithi makuthini uryt uLoyiso atye tyumm Mntakabawo otherwise zingamkhalela kwayena basop la two'sum😂😂
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Zwai mother didn't love his husband.. finish..this give reason why her children don't respect her
Hayini bethunana
Yoh Zwaai 🤐🤐🤐🤐