Battleship Texas, Firing The Guns Step-By-Step
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- This is the introductory video for a series that takes a detailed in depth look at the design and fabrication of the components that were part of the 14" guns used on Battleship Texas.
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It is interesting that these were designed with pencil, paper and a slide rule, no computers. Also no high tech computers to aim or fire the guns either. I am so amazed by the ingenious mechanical designs back then.
What fascinates me the most were systems found on later ships where the turrets were directly controlled by the fire control computers using servo systems. While sensors, like search and fire control radars, were electronic, the computers and servos were purely electro-mechanical. They largely eliminated human error and could aim and hold on target faster and better. It was unfortunate that it wasn't feasible to adapt Texas to utilize them, but I'm glad they didn't try. It would have required heavy modifications that would have eliminated these early systems and the history that we can still see.
@@stevesmith9151 Guns as a main ships weapon are obsolete. There is a reason why they don't build them like that anymore. large Anti-ship missiles would still sink a Des Moines. Traditional naval guns maxed out at ranges of 21 miles modern Cruise missiles have ranges of a 1,000 miles.
The primary role of Modern Warships is to defend Airspace and to hunt submarines. You cannot defend hundreds of miles of Airspace with Naval Artillery. With modern SM-6 missiles you can.
As for LCS they were a shit show caused by corrupt politicians and flawed "threat" perceptions. However the Modern Burk and Tico ships have been doing their job for nearly 40 years without complaint.
@@tomscotttheolderone364 I think it really made sense to not upgrade Texas since she was not intended for surface actions but was being used as a shore bombardment platform. Along with New York and Arkansas and Nevada they were the oldest Battleships in the fleet. Whats great was that Texas against the odds was saved and preserved so we get a great time capsule.
My personal dream would be when the Navy decommissions the USS San Jacinto (A Ticonderoga class Cruiser) it could be preserved in Texas along side USS Texas. It would be great since the two ships encompassed over 120 years of Naval History of the United States showing the evolution of Navy warships from 1912 to 2020.
Both ships have a lot in common- Both ships had long service lifes (31 years for Texas, 35+ years for San Jacinto) both fielded new advanced capabilities but were followed by improved follow on classes (14inch guns on Texas, followed by Standard type Battleships) (Ageis Defense system on the San J, which was later used on the Burk class DDGs) Both had major refits to keep them relevant in the changing combat envoirments (Tripod masts radar and anti-Aircraft guns for Texas, Improved Firecontrol Systems for San J.)
@@stevesmith9151 Do you know what they found out about the Bikini Bomb Tests? that Nukes don't do that much damage to ships unless they were relatively close. Only one ship that was 1,000 meters from ground zero actually sank and that was a dry dock. Many Ships survived the bomb test including ships that were not war ships that had little in the way of Armor Several Destroyers survived much closer to the blasts and they do NOT have high survivability. The bomb test revealed that while nukes were deadly to ships up close ships were not nearly as heavily damaged at greater distances. However all ships would have been killed by Radiation since all the ships involved had Lethel levels of radiation.
If you think a Hypersonic missile traveling at 5,000 Miles Per Hour is not going to dent Class B armor you are an idiot. just kinetic energy alone would be devastating to any ship.
There Are anti-ship missiles intended to sink 100,000 Ton Fleet Carriers.
Yamato and Musashi were sunk with concentrated air attack involving dumb bombs and unguided Torpedos.
What the hell are you talking about "modern Sabot ammo" Are you talking about Tank Rounds? or Hypersonic projectiles- Hypersonic projectiles have been cancelled and either way would have inferior performance to Missiles.
And no they were not even close to having "Sabot" rounds for the Iowas.
"nothing Left on Earth that could go Toe to Toe with an Iowa and survive."
Nonsense. Complete Utter Nonsense. It is in fact not that hard to sink a battleship if you have the right weapons avaible. IF you don't think that you can't build Missiles that can defeat Armor that was only rated against 2,000lb AP super heavy guns from specific angles (You probably don't even understand that Battleship Armor is built to take rounds at specific angles and distances.
You can litterally build a missile with More Mass than a YAMATO shell with many times the velocity and target the ship from angles it was never intended to survive.
That is the Reason why Armor is not a priority for the Navy anymore. You can always build your missile or Torpedo bigger and shoot from farther. No ship can be made invincible.
@@stevesmith9151 what for? To be sunk from over the horizon where guns cant reach? 😉
I remember back when stationed on a tender at the submarine base in San Diego, we were told the New Jersey was coming into port at North Island. We found the highest spot to watch it come in. It reminded me of the Star Wars battle cruisers because of the triangular shape as it started to appear in the distance. Then we were amazed at just how big that ship was. Huge is an understatement!! The Star Wars thing is what I will never forget!!
Were you watching from up on Point Loma somewhere?
My Pappy joined the Navy in 1937 and went through training on board the USS Texas. Always said it was his favorite ship. He got moved to the USS Lexington and his Navy career ended when he was badly wounded at the Battle of Coral Sea and the Lexington was sunk.
Sailed with an engineer Lester L Anderson on ocean tugs was @ coral sea on the Lex. Chief Bos’n Mate. So tough he ate hot sauce on his corn flakes. Not a sea story either
My thanks to your "Pappy" for his sacrifice and service.
I saw the USS Texas when I was about 7-8 yrs old in the late 50s. This was very interesting but back then would have been way over my head! Thanks for the video!
I didn’t realize how fast these rounds go. 2700 feet per second is the equivalent of about 1841 miles per hour- basically close to Mach III. That is incredible for basically an analogue system and 1940’s technology. I would not want to be in the receiving end of one of these rounds. That is an insane amount of power per 14” gun!! Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video. I’ve always wondered about how these guns work (and work so well at that!).
This video is fantastic!
I really loved the diagrams they made the whole process very easy to follow, keep up the great work.
Glad you liked it!
I remember a recent video from battleship New Jersey talking about how the gun barrels had the longest lead time in development. I now understand why it was so complicated! Thank you for sharing this video.
Very well done. Hope this gets mentioned on other sites so others can enjoy and be educated about the process. Thanks Tom.
I hope so too
i`ve never seen this explained so well .also, i`ve never seen how the compressed air trick worked. thank you for this
Glad you liked it!
I must of been both awesome and highly dangerous to be an integral part of a 16” gun crew.
Respect to the ones who were part of a well oiled machine.
Good balance of info, enough for us laymen to understand, not too much to bore us to death. Thank you!
Thank you for the kind compliment. That is precisely my goal, but one I rarely achieve!
BORE us to death??? (Get it?)
The USS Constitution and WWII Battleships were my first love as a young 10 year old boy starting to build models around 1970. Every year my family took a two week vacation to Georgia (my mother's family is there) from Louisiana where my dad is from. He was a WWII, Korea and Vietnam vet of 24 years in the Army Air Corp and then the new USAF. Thing is on this trip was the USS Alabama in Mobile, and I recall I had to behave on that miserably long trip or we would not get to stop at the Alabama. When we got near I used to hunger for a view of it in the distance towering over the shoreline structures. it's not the Texas, I've seen her from a distance passing through Houston (and I understand she is undergoing an extensive restoration right now), but to get to crawl all over a true battleship was this ten year old's yearly joy for a few years. All mine and my dad's too I guess because we dragged along my 3 siblings and my mom. I even visited it again on my own honeymoon with my new (very indulgent) very beautiful wife in 1979. Battleships have a mystique that Aircraft carriers just don't have. Carriers are like floating hornets nests, they get the job done being full of bugs with stingers, cool in their own way. But NOTHING beats the brute force, pure pounding and national pride a battleship can dish out. I'm 63 now but, God! I STILL love battleships! They are wicked and intimidating looking. T.R. Roosevelt knew what he was doing when he sent the White Fleet around the world. Anyway, we won't build anymore so we should SAVE ALL that remain!! Thank you for this wonderful video. I have always wondered just exactly how firing worked. I knew the basic mechanics but the point to point illustrations were very informative. Many, many thanks, and I'll shut up now.
go to battleship cove if you haven't yet.
My father was a brilliant tooling engineer who did everything on a good old fashioned drawing board. I started out on the drawing board and then taught myself CAD in the late 90's. He and I were the sole suppliers of a lockwire that held the tail cone assembly to the rocket body of the hydra 70 rockets for over 30 years. I often wonder about the brilliant engineers of those days. If they had CAD can you imagine?
That's cool! And the Hydra 70 rockets are still going strong, also being turned into guided munitions in the form of APKWS, amazing stuff. While I can work with CAD, I really prefer drawing with pencil and paper. It just makes it easier to visualize what I'm picturing clearly, after which it can be made in CAD of course.
if you have half a mind....why is CAD amazing...??
Great video, loved it. Explaining stuff like this in an understandable way is an art. 👍🏻
Took the full indepth tour of the USS Iowa now moored in San Pedro California. I was blown away by the technology, history and esprit de corps of the ships crew. I highly recommend a tour of this amazing piece of floating history.
Really enjoy your videos Tom. The time and research you put in to these are very much appreciated.
Thanks! I'm glad you like them!
Tom again an awsome video. always amazed by the knowledge you hold and the way you go into technical depth but also keeping it simple for everyone to understand. Thankyou captain T Scott for sharing you're knowledge with the world about battleship texas.👍
I appreciate that!
Thanks! I knew the basics but always wondered how they ignited the main charges.
I found it interesting that the max bore pressure when firing was 36,000 pounds per square inch. For comparison, a 30-06 cartridge has a bore pressure of about 46,000 PSI.
But of course, we're talking about a HELL of a lot more volume in that 14" rifle!
Excellent presentation. Very informative and clear. Thank you. These guns are badass!
So many small questions answered in one clip. Thank you!❤️
Outstanding video! Thank you! What caught my attention was the chamber pressure, 36k psi is incredible and while I understand the huge volume of the chamber takes a tremendous amount of gas to achieve those pressure ratings, I was comparing it to a 5.56mm rifle cartridge that produces around 58k psi chamber pressure, but in a really tiny chamber (in comparison). Thanks again!
Thank you for the clear and concise explanation! Your videos are awesome!
Glad you like them!
I watched a movie called battleship it was amazing how the actors got into line with the firing mechanics of the big guns. Thank you for your fine description of the firing of the guns on the battle ship TEXAS. Just amazing to watch Sir' Just Amazing.
Another superb video Tom, I really enjoy the concise and informative nature of your videos and your delivery style. Bring on the deep dives, the deeper the better! 😁
Many thanks!
Great video. A lot more going on than I could imagine. Thanks for sharing your video.
That was great ! Amazing the amount of 'science' that went into just making a big gun. Yes, they were really smart.
Excellent video! Thank you for the graphic. It goes along with your physical gun video a lot. Keep em coming and Come On Texas!
Thanks, I have plans for more.
@@tomscotttheolderone364 We can't wait!! I remember being 4 or 5 years old when Texas was last dry docked and wishing I could see her in person. In 2018 I was finally lucky enough to fulfill that dream. A lot of the ship was under construction at the time so a lot of the tour routes were off limits but I didn't care. I was having the time of my life. I've had many low back surgeries and several hip surgeries but even that couldn't keep me from the Texas! I was in bed for 2 days after crawling over every square inch that I legally could that day. My new dream is to come back to Texas after her upcoming dry doc and explore even more. These videos are a great window into my favorite ship ever made. Being from Texas she is near and dear to my heart so Thank You for all the great videos and the work y'all are doing to save this amazing piece of history.
Very interesting ratio, 1500lb shell to 420 lb propellant or 150/42. A typical 308 Winchester rifle cartridge might have a 150 grain projectile and around 42 grains of propellant giving a muzzle velocity around 2800 ft/s. Ballistics is absolutely fascinating.
I was thinking the same thing, except it was 30-06 that I was thinking of. The 308 and 30-06 are only about 200 fps difference, so it hardly matters I suppose. I'm just glad there are still people with a like mind...
As this video was playing that very thought was tracing thru my curiosity, I was heading to the calculator, other web sites…thanks for the quick reference! I do think case pressures are higher on smaller ballistics bores? I came back and the .308 has 62k lbs of case pressure there is a ratio in there….,
169,925,000 ft⋅lbf
75/21, reduce your damn fractions smdh
Thank you for another awesome video!
You bet!
I think this was number 1 on the list of things I didnt think I'd learn today.
Very interesting. A lot goes on in this precees that I never knew. My friend and neighbor used to fire the 11 inch guns on the old USS Arkansas.
Fascinating! So many pieces that have to work in concert!
Love it! Can't wait for the more in detail Videos ^^
My gosh, how many times did I spend a day as a kid, playing on the decks and running up and down the ladders of USS Texas! BB-35, right? Thanks so much for this informative video! I just read Hornfischer's "Neptune's Inferno", so your video makes clear the process that turret crews used in those awful engagements.
Wow that is incredible and explained very well thank you
What really amazes me is just how similar the chamber pressure and muzzle velocity are to rifle calibers. Difference being a huge difference in mass ejected and weight of propellent expended. Velocity might kill but apparently mass obliterates.
Both, which translate to kinetic energy. If you shoot a pea at 1% the speed of light, it will cause a lot more destruction than these shells.
@@ironcito1101 One of the ways that a hypothetical alien species might destroy the Earth would be to hit it with a 100 kg or so mass that they have accelerated to 99% the speed of light. This can be done without violating any laws of physics, and the kinetic energy would be like a rifle bullet going through an apple.
Kinetic energy goes up in a linear fashion with mass (2x the mass, 2x the energy.
It increases by the square of velocity (2x the velocity 4x the energy).
Wonderful description ,thanks !
excellent series! I saw her in her berth just before she went into drydock. That means another trip to TX to see her innards!
Great presentation!
super clear and step-by-step!
Thanks, this answered a lot of questions I didn't know I had.
Awesome. Thank you for posting
My pleasure!
VERY COOL. THanks for posting.
Great video Tom, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Very nice presentation. FYI, The photo of USS Missouri firing a full broadside was upon our arrival at Sydney, Australia in 1986 for the celebration of the RAN's 75th anniversary. I'm on the open bridge next to an Aussie journalist as an escort. The blast created quite an impression and could have been one of those brown out moments. R. Lindel PH1(SW) ret.
Thanks for the photo i.d.! That had to be an incredible sensory experience! Btw, did you know Bob Lian? I believe he was a turret commander on Missouri around that time.
Greetings from Brazil! Thank you very much for a so detailed video. Subbed! God bless, brother!
ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL INFORMATIVE VIDEO. GOD BLESS YOU SIR.
In 1999 I visited the battleship. Afterwards I was on the USS Lexington. Both really impressive ships.
Love it! keep em coming, great presentation.
Thank you! Will do!
Awesome video!!! Thank You!
Excellent explanation. Thanks.
Very informative, thank you.
Great video as always, Sir!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That was very interesting, as are many of your videos.
Wonderful explanation!!
Glad you liked it
Thank you. Fascinating!
Very concise and interesting. thank you
Absolutely gorgeous
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Very interesting. Thank You.
outstanding explanation
An exceptional video. One bit of trivia- the 36,000 psi in Texas' main guns is a little more than half of the roughly 60,000 psi in the 30-06 chambered Springfield rifle in service at the time when Texas entered service and that only fired a bullet weighing one third of an ounce at approximately the same muzzle velocity as Texas' 14 inch guns.
While I agree with your main illustration, your numbers are a bit off - the 30-06 cartridge as used in the M1 Garand operated at 50,000 psi - not 60,000. 60,000 psi would have very quickly broke the operating rod.
Fascinating, thanks!
80 year old technology still absolutely blows my mind.
Prepare to be really blown away. The majority of it is 110 year old technology!
Cool video. Thank you!
What a mean looking magnificent ship
This video is awesome! Did I need to know this information? Absolutely not. Did I enjoy every educational second of it? Absolutely.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent.
I had no idea that just firing one of these was so complicated!
Magnifique travail et partage. Merciiiiii❤
Great video ☺️
Thank you!! 😊
It's a top view! Yeah!
I'm a Brit ex navy veteran and really enjoyed the post well done yours aye!
Thank you, that means a lot to me! You may already be aware of this, but Battleship Texas has very strong ties to Great Britain. She was not only attached to the British Grand Fleet during the last year of World War I, she took part in neutrality patrols, was a convoy escort to Britain, and spent time in British Shipyards and preparing for D-Day there.
Great video
The technology is amazing.
Great Video, Thanks,
Also, the calculations and materials dealing with absorbing and controlling the massive recoil.
The test was the durability of the system after thousands of firings with no major failures or causalities.
great stuff
Although not what I was expecting, I was expecting to actually see the guns load and fire. 😁 However it was VERY interesting to understand the process. What amazes me is that the primer was so small for such a huge load. I realize that the electrical charge also helped ignite the powder, but still surprised by the size of the primer.
Excellent video and explanation of the Firing cycle of the guns. I wish that they had taken better care of the Texas. I saw all that rust, grrrr.
Xellent vid. I shall tell everyone at the pub. Cud watch this stuff allday
Thanks! While I described what goes into firing a shot on the 14" guns, I didn't talk about how the turrets and guns were crewed. Go to the following video to see that. th-cam.com/video/PC9g9WkDS-4/w-d-xo.html
One thing on this class of ships that wasn't repeated was that the projectiles were brought up and were even stored nose down during loading. I really like the old girl hopefully they get her where she's not in danger if sinking sometime soon. Thanks for the video I live this stuff even at 65 years old it makes me feel like I'm 15 years old again!
The ship is currently scheduled to be towed to dry dock for hull repairs in late June or early July. The ship has been well prepared, the tow carefully planned and run through simulations, and it will be less than 50 miles in protected water.
@@tomscotttheolderone364 Good Luck! hopefully everything works out.
@@tomscotttheolderone364 I thought they were bringing the drydock to her at least thats what was being said in March or April
@@georgedistel1203 Bringing the dry dock to where the ship is currently located was never considered for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is that tied to the state provided funding for repairs was that the ship could not stay in her present location. In any case, Galveston is a short and safe tow from where she is now, and it has all of the required logistical support and infrastructure already in place.
Terrific.
Phew I am glad I found this. I was really struggling to fire my main guns. I am off to harass shipping in the Atlantic.
I'm glad that I could help!
In these days of computer aided design which allows quick work of most any type of mechanical problems or components it's easy to forget that there were a lot of very smart people who knew how to get the job done with slide rules and good old fashioned know how.
Interesting video and well done. 1500 lb shell at rifle velocity!
I was curious about this function and was going to do a search when I saw this. Always wondered how those big bags of powder got ignited. Thanks
Bang bang 🤯 🤯
For reference, a 16 inch gun at 32,000 PSI produces a force on the shell of about 3,217 tons.
Welcome back
indeed naval guns were a marvel of technology even for a hundred years ago, pretty advanced for their time in history, the designers were definitely way too clever, i hope they benefited
unlike some i can think of, Mr Dunlop who after a lifetime of redesigning the formula for rubber, having invested so much time and other peoples money died penniless, and yet into the future, Dunlop becomes a big name
apparently, my grandfather left a design on the back of an office door for divers to be able escape a submersible and swim away, known today as the Davis and Tate escape capsule, pinched by Mr Davis and Mr Tate, thanks
(i have absolutely no idea if any of that is true, just one of those family myths that one tells)
This video explains the extra puff of white smoke from the guns after firing, as the remaining gases are ignited in the barrel. (BTW, the Iowa has a mechanical fire control computer that is so accurate, that it was not replaced with an electronics).
WOW.. .I was on the Iowa, but did not know this..
It's very helpful that the round constantly shrinks to fit whatever the narrator is telling us.
If that's a compliment, thanks. If not, the round never shrinks in relationship to the barrel. However, there are frequent changes to overall scale in order to zoom in for details or out for full size looks.
a good friend of mine was in the 2nd Ranger Bn and his landing craft was sunk going in on D-Day he was picked up and put aboard the battleship Texas, just one of the two that survived the sinking of their landing craft
As you said, these guys were really smart. They engineered all of this with slide rules, something that I’ll bet not 200 people world wide could do today. Most people couldn’t or wouldn’t leave their home without a computer screen @ the ready. Help me, what do I do! My phone wont work.
That is a great video. I needed some moments but I think that the spin arrow caused by the rifling is pointing in the wrong direction. But nothing which impacts the outstanding educational quality.
I might suggest the drawing is a "Top View".
Thanks, the drawing was intentionally misdrawn in order to more clearly show the action of the breech plug and rammer.
Thanks
Was always curious what the puff of smoke was after the gun was fired and the barrel was lowered. Now I know. Thanx.👍👍
It's a real shame that those guns are too loud to safely fire. It would be awesome to get a crew together every year or so and try firing a few blank rounds.
Fuck that I want to see em hit some target 🤣
The USS KIDD used to fire a noon charge from the 51 mount.
It was discontinued due to the expense of the 40 odd pounds of smokeless powder for each salute