The R32 will always be the greatest skyline imo. back in the day it was completely unbeatable. Won every single race it entered without competition. Fucking Legendary
The car that changed Australian motor racing, lets not forget it was still very much in development at the time and would of only got faster, a lot faster. I have always said that if it would of had a Holden or Ford badge on the front they wouldnt of changed the rules so quickly, They let the Ford Sierra beat everything for years, and that was a racing car that they made a road model so they could race it and had Ford badge on the front, when Nissan did the same they quickly changed the rules as nothing was going to beat it for many many years, it was 5 years ahead of anything else on the race track at least
Exactly the truth...Holden and there dinosaur v8s couldnt build a car to compete and had the GTR banned...Mike Raymond was at the forefront going to cams...what Ford and Holden did was basically "Cheating" to ensure it was one of their badges that won races
Great point Mike about the rule changes and how quickly they changed after 2 successive wins by Nissan! The second of which was with a weight and boost penalties Fred Gibson was happy with those penalties he said Beauty more grip due to weight and more reliability from the boost limit lol the Dinosaur V8's had no chance against a true sports car the GTR !
When did they change the rules? Group A fell over internationally. You're just another one of those people who keep on saying "they banned the Skyline because it was too fast". Plus if Nissan really wanted to continue during the V8 5.0 Formula they could of just put a V8 in a GT-T R34 lol
Even the Japanese were amazed by Gibson's Skyline and refused entry because Nismo would have been destroyed. Don't forget what a legend Gibson was for nissan.
I would agree 100%. Tricky dicky had the quickest sierras in the world, and Fred had the quickest GTRs in the world. Aus. Had the 2 best group A touring cars in the world
What Gibson motorsport did with these GTR's is nothing short of pure genius, they managed to produce, race and effectively tune brand new GTR's to perform at top tier levels when other Japanese tuners of the time were just breaking the surface, these GTR's are just amazing, even for today's standards, they're incredible
The Skyline showed the world that Japanese motoring was truly coming of age in technology and had caught up with traditional foes such as the American giants, Chev (Holden) and Ford. In an era where performance in Australia was really only thought of in 8 cylinders (Ford Sierra's weren't sold here) and a weird 4wd turbo coupe that nobody had heard of from a company making Datsun 180B's punished all of them. I love many different cars but I think everyone has to love the R32 GTR!!
It couldn't compete because it couldn't make anywhere near the same horsepower as the Nissan. A cast iron pushrod V8 engine can only take so much and Holden wasn't interested in the cost of developing an aluminium block engine that would save almost 100kg off the front of the Commodore. They did toy with the idea to convert the GTR to RWD only which would be fair as that way it wouldn't have the start/drive off corner that it demonstrated so well. The GTR is truly a legend in looks and performance. The Holden, under the Group A rules was never going to match it, though it did beat it in sound! Watch Brocky's qualifying run of the same year!
@@carlob517 not really relevant, they weren't even close to family cars by the time they were on the track, fully built v8's no interior, cage etc, same amount of work as this r32, this just show's that v8's can't always be the topdog, I mean this lap held the record from 1991 to 2018
@@jesse6779 firstly, the skylines they were racing weren’t exactly road legal either. Secondly nissans raced at Bathurst for over a decade and yet the skyline only ever won two races. Not the world crushing performance when you take a step back and get a proper perspective of Nissan’s efforts as a whole. Thirdly the fact that the skyline was AWD was a massive advantage in the corners, make them front or rear wheel drive only like everything else and watch them finish at the back of the field And finally, turbos were impossible ensure compliance. It was so easy to hide how teams were able to raise the psi of their turbos once they were past the scrutineers. It was hilarious at first to see the old bluebirds and R31s either plod along at half the pace or rip around the track faster than everything else for a few laps before they started spewing oil and smoke everywhere.
@@danieljones7843 Firstly...and lastly...THE GTR was designed from the ground up to go Racing and dominate...the Dinosaur Commodore was designed as a 4 door family car...that they tried to take Racing and failed against a pure bred...simple as that...The End.
@@jesse6779 the FACT is...the Commodores WERE designed to be a 4 door family Car from the ground up...THE GTR was designed from the ground up to go Racing and dominate...it Did
The Skyline was the crowning glory of the Australian Motorsport community's arrogance. Holden and Ford are now paying the ultimate price. They carried on with the "If you can't beat 'em, ban 'em" mentality that severely curtailed their push for new technology. If either the Commodore or Falcon had been properly developed into a Skyline beater, we wouldn't be seeing our factories close. The GT-R became god because it was unbeatable. The falcadore had it's chance to take it's place. Pity we failed
The ATCC and Supercars was always one of the best series to watch worldwide, it's biggest shortcoming was diversity in the end. So Aussie cars became inbred, they offered a limited line up of very similar cars with less compelling reasons to buy them over other brands each year. Racing development drives passenger car development to some degree for all brands, if you ban other brands from competing you're just stalling development. Kinda reminds me of how Ford slowed the 6s down towards the end of the Windsor days, people were getting upset that Xr6s were nearly as fast or in some cases faster than the XR8s even though they were cheaper. Probably could have had a factory turbo falcon or a DOHC model earlier if attitudes were different; although a Windsor full clap is a sound to behold and I would almost spend the extra money and bear the extra weight to choose one. Almost.
100% True and correct...even the RS500 Cosworth Sierra was specifically designed to go Racing...as obviously was THE GTR..The Commodore was just designed as a 4 door family Car that they tried to take Racing...Holden's idea of technology was...just put a bigger engine and some plastic aero on a family car instead of designing something specific to race...I remember when I owned MY Nissan EXA Turbo which was Fuel injected and Turbo...and looking at my Mum's new VK Commodore that had an old Red motor in it and thinking wow...that's as good as Holden could offer? When I saw Fury's qualifying lap in his Turbo Bluebird I just knew that is where everything is heading...I saw the writing on the wall especially for Holden decades ago that they would end up broke...No manufacturer...well...if you call making ONE CAR a manufacturer as all the other models were imported..you're bound to go broke...The Commodore was just decades behind on what the market dictated...know one wanted a big 4 door RWD family car anymore...and the stuff Holden were importing as everyone knows was just garbage...People got better educated from this pesky little thing called the Internet. People also realised that Holden was no longer really Australians car anymore. Holden from the very start, until the very end only really made one car...a large 4 door rear wheel drive only family car...the World had moved on...IMO...sadly if Holden had of stepped up and built/designed a car to compete than maybe they would be still around...instead of..."Can't beat em...Ban em" attitude
man that exhaust and engine note sound so damn good. “and this is where the GT-R...” BWAHHHHHHHH “...at about 158 kilometers...” BWAHHH BWAHHHHH beautiful commentary.
I agree wholeheartedly. That is why I own one. They just couldn't compete, and no Australian manufacturer was willing to bury the money into making a race car from the ground up and then transfer it to the general car market, as Nissan did with the R32 GTR. I love my car and I smile when I sit next to a clubsport or senator.
What did you just say... "The GTR was never a touring car"????!!! Despite winning the Australian TOURING Car Championship three years in a row? Despite winning 29 times out of 29 starts in the Japanese Group A TOURING cars? Despite the WHOLE concept being designed from the ground up to compete in touring car racing? From the engine, the drivetrain, to the chassis. (look it up) The GTR was the most dominant TOURING car of its time.
This was the fastest and most powerful group A Skyline from Australia at that time. Ausies built faster gtrs than the Japanese, not even Nismo Japans group A skylines with likes of the Calsonic and STP and HKS R32 Gtrs (not the drag car) were as powerful as this one, at that period in time. One thing Holden did not realize at the time was, that this car was tuned, built and tested by Australians with the nissan badge on it. Now the whole world builds faster GTRs than whats currently in Japan on the streets. I think the whole world needs some credit by the country of origin for the level at which high performance GTRs are being built by other countries ( brand community awareness).
Without Japan or Nissan GTR wouldn't exist, if aussies are really that great where the fck are your domestic market vehicle companies ... oh thats right, holden went belly up. Gtfoh with your ignorant comments.
@Australian Outlander yep they did. Dick Johnson participated at a guest entrant in the British touring car series in a few races in the, "old days", his cars had the fastest straight line speed. The Texaco sierras could not keep up.
godzilla was just a weapon...had the honor of being at bathurst in 1990 for it's mountain debut had it not been for a dodgy cv joint it would of won by 10+ laps .. a thrill to witness in person !!
Imagine if they were allowed to continue running the Nissan Bluebird in Bathurst.....? It only ceased competing due to the introduction of the Skyline and that only 1 type of vehicle could be entered from a manufacture that was outside of Ford and Holden. The Bluebird was seriously a giant killer for what it was running when competing, a 1.8L turbo. Had it been a go ahead and allowed to continue imagine come 1989 with the introduction of the Bluebird Attesa which runs the infamous SR20DET coupled with 4WD. It would have been a no doubt 1,2 finish for Nissan. Sure those will argue the Cosworth would more than likely beat the Bluebird, I will disagree due to the fact the Cozzy engine was too temperamental and struck too many mechanical issues due to it being far too highly tuned above its capabilities.
Great video. Awesome to see the skyline bouncing around and twitching out of corners. I miss the good old days when the cars actually looked like they were going fast around bathurst.
R32 Skyline Coupe - last of the good-looking Nissans; wish I'd never sold my GTST coupe, even if the turbo did make it a bit lethal on wet roundabouts; just as you were exiting, the turbo would spin up and woo-err, it was backwards through a hedge if you weren't quick with the opposite lock - i can see why they made the GTR 4wd! still a bloody nice drive.
+wiredsk8r thanks, we need more contributions from abusive little seven year old sk8erbois who have a vast knowledge of automobiles gained from Grand Theft Auto.
Comparing lap times across different years is quite meaningless. Holden and Ford had 10 whole years to improve technology. That is, better tyres, fuel, aerodynamics, chassis, more power and lighter weight. The truth remains that in 1990-1992, the GTR was the best touring car. Miles ahead of the aussie v8s...
Looking through some of the comments on here, they just seem petty. I'm a petrolhead. Being British, and having grown up with cars such as the Ford Cosworths, my preference would be to the smaller turbo'd engine and 4WD layout of the Skyline. but I would also quite happily have a Vauxhall VXR8 (re-badged Holden Monaro HS-V), and I'd take either to the local track and have the same amount of fun in them.
@caling53 typical bogan comment the ATESSA was the main thing that made them quick. They made them put ballsat in the car, lowered the boost and they still kicked arse. The only way they could beat them was to ban them.
Watching Bathurst today (2023) the top speed down Conrod was pretty much the same at Skaify way back in 1991. But pole was a 2.04 lap - so the current cars pick up 8 seconds across the mountain. That’s really interesting - brakes and tyres will be better as well of course. But if we’re honest, Bathurst was way better back when there were a wide variety of cars racing. Miss those days.
No, that would be George Fury's 1984 lap in the 1770cc Datsun Bluebird Turbo, the fastest tin top lap ever on the original layout of the Mount Panorama Circuit. His record will stand forever.
exactly, considering the difference in top speeds hasnt changed much, still high 290's. In motor racing terms 10-12years is forever. For its time it was just so far ahead of the competition it just wasnt fair!
Fastest ever Group A lap of Mt Panorama and the fastest 'Touring Car" lap ever at the track. Sorry, I don't really class V8 Supercars as touring cars any more. Gary Wilkinson mentions George Fury's Nissan Bluebird time of 1984 (2:13.85) but that track as shorter then (pre Caltex Chase) and typically lap times are roughly 4 seconds slower. So Fury's Bluebird would have struggled to do a 2 minute 18 lap on this version of the track.
I see many comments on other related v8 vids that mention it was a good thing that they made the Holden VS Ford concept, i disagree and think it actually deluded their audience and imo i am so happy they are doing away with that concept of just Ford and Holden manufactuer's. I am one that has not followed v8 supper cars but will be tuning now because i am a big Nissan fan.
600hp+ with a shit group A aero kit this car was fuck yeah! But without that hollinger box this car would not have had sucsess with the enduros. Thank fuck for Fred Gibson, Richards, and skaife!
Obviously putting a turbo on a v8 would beat a turbo 6 half the capacity. The Skyline is engineered better for racing in every way; using a chassis designed for track work, better weight distribution, modern technologies such as forced induction and all wheel drive to make an aggressive touring car. The v8 (and commodore/ falcon chassis) is a dinosaur. It's dying out. It's under-engineered, a simply "bigger is better" solution.
@KXRider212 well a dead stock ss running 10psi runs 10s in the quarter,quicker than a near stock gtir by some considerable margin.A gen3 v8 is cheaper to buy s/h than sr20,and makes 850 horsepower dead stock on 12psi.
Buddy you need to do some research on the physics of an OHC engine vs pushrod. There is a reason absolutely NO modern car engine is built with a pushrod design....so whoever said pushrod is obsolete is absolutely right. The only reason supercars have kept the pushrod design for so long is it is seen as a cheaper alternative that is a little more robust (same as nascar).
No, the R32 is Homologated as Group A so therefore its is a touring car. They were ruled out because they wern't a Holden or Ford V8, so they couldn't rsce in the V8 Supercar series.
Ford's raced seirra's in the 80's, they competed with xc coupe cobra's prior to that, holden also competed with torana's and monaros, all of these car's are examples of coupes with powerful motors in them, if your arguemnt against the gtr is that it's not 4 doors or rwd in comparison to today's cars, then perhaps you should re-think your comments. Rules were different back then, also a GTR is "NOT" a 4wd coupe, it only engages the 4wd based on torque, not all the time
Big block v8's aren't very tunable... it takes a lot of space and weight. Japan is all about how much power you can squeeze out from engines that are small and weigh less....
@Suprastar77 Thats cos they spent Quarter mil on the engine,compared to 80thou on a holden engine designed in 1967,which still blew away the gtr in the early days of tuning,b4 they spend 3/4 mil on the gtr so it could keep up.
Thats because of project blueprint which made the rules and regulations on whats allowed became very strict, the same will be the case in 2013 for Nissan.
The same way Nissan made a 4-door, rwd, naturally aspirated family car into a 2-door twin turbo, 4wd sports car? We could have had the new Monaro 10 years earlier! My favourite Commodore has to be the VN SS Group A yet to my knowledge its the only one that never won at Bathurst - imagine if they'd coupified it and stroked it out a little!
The R32 GTR was designed from the Ground Up to go Racing and dominate...NOT ADAPTED from anything else unlike the Commodore that was a 4 door family Car that they just threw a v8 in and some plastic aero on...and THAT was the reason it was no where close to being competitive.
This was fast,but 12 years on in 2003 Murphy did 2:06 which lasted til Lowndes beat it.In 12 years they took 6 seconds off the lap record,but in the next 10 years they've only knocked around a second off it.These new cars of the future will be interesting to see what sort of times they can produce,If they thrash the Aussie V8's,the rules will magically change,yet again,to ban everything but Aussie V8's.Its sad that the V8 supercar management dont like fast race cars and ban them from racing
What bar were they running there that bang out the first corner Unbelievable how good 😊 If only they let that car continue imagine what it be now holy shit
1.6 -1.8 bar...but in 92 it was hobbled with a pop off valve set to 1.3 and it lost about 100hp...then after tuning each cylinder individually they gained back about 80hp...from memory the Sierra's (Dick Johnson) was allowed 2.4 bar to qualify
I don’t know too much about the various models etc however after the race I was lucky to purchase one of these twin turbo beauties from a guy that was importing them direct from Japan for around 40k I still have this white Godzilla with only 28k on the clock I might see what it’s worth one day
I've also seen your channel and the million and one comments defending the v8's so i don't think you will ever understand the other perspective. They could have aspired to beat the gtr however they gave up, that's the disappointing part of it. Maybe all the young blokes would be getting around in turbo 2 door 4wd holden/fords rather than gtrs? or maybe they still couldn't beat the gtr ;) would have been INTERESTING to find out.
Wel if you want to compare the RB26 to a V8 its a little unfair considering the RB26 will more than likely tkae it, unless your talking about a big block in which case thats more like comparing a 426 hemi to 318. If center of gravity was an issue with the RB they obviously found a way to counter that becasue most vehicles with an RB handle just fine and dont have an issue. The OHC design is great and push rods are great as well. Why not just love all engines and cars?
the rb26 is only 16kg lighter than the old chev small blocks and holden stroker motors back then. remember the skyline weighed a good 140kg more than the vn group a before the skyline had ballast added. everyone and i mean everyone hated the skylines back then. Aussies inherrently go for the little guy. and back then the commodore was the aussie battler!!!
That is a gorgeous car. A truly gorgeous car.
R32 was a beast
N1K0 山本 How's it gay? dumbass
6RIE He just jealous haters will always hate because his trolls keyboard warriors.
The R32 will always be the greatest skyline imo. back in the day it was completely unbeatable. Won every single race it entered without competition. Fucking Legendary
Greatest car ever made
A gorgoues car in 1990
30 years later still gorgeous
One of those cars that will always look good
The car that changed Australian motor racing, lets not forget it was still very much in development at the time and would of only got faster, a lot faster.
I have always said that if it would of had a Holden or Ford badge on the front they wouldnt of changed the rules so quickly,
They let the Ford Sierra beat everything for years, and that was a racing car that they made a road model so they could race it and had Ford badge on the front, when Nissan did the same they quickly changed the rules as nothing was going to beat it for many many years, it was 5 years ahead of anything else on the race track at least
Mike OBrien
I think the Skyline had the lap record for 19 years...
Found the Ford fan...
Exactly the truth...Holden and there dinosaur v8s couldnt build a car to compete and had the GTR banned...Mike Raymond was at the forefront going to cams...what Ford and Holden did was basically "Cheating" to ensure it was one of their badges that won races
Great point Mike about the rule changes and how quickly they changed after 2 successive wins by Nissan! The second of which was with a weight and boost penalties Fred Gibson was happy with those penalties he said Beauty more grip due to weight and more reliability from the boost limit lol
the Dinosaur V8's had no chance against a true sports car the GTR !
When did they change the rules? Group A fell over internationally. You're just another one of those people who keep on saying "they banned the Skyline because it was too fast". Plus if Nissan really wanted to continue during the V8 5.0 Formula they could of just put a V8 in a GT-T R34 lol
Even the Japanese were amazed by Gibson's Skyline and refused entry because Nismo would have been destroyed. Don't forget what a legend Gibson was for nissan.
I would agree 100%. Tricky dicky had the quickest sierras in the world, and Fred had the quickest GTRs in the world. Aus. Had the 2 best group A touring cars in the world
What Gibson motorsport did with these GTR's is nothing short of pure genius, they managed to produce, race and effectively tune brand new GTR's to perform at top tier levels when other Japanese tuners of the time were just breaking the surface, these GTR's are just amazing, even for today's standards, they're incredible
The Skyline showed the world that Japanese motoring was truly coming of age in technology and had caught up with traditional foes such as the American giants, Chev (Holden) and Ford. In an era where performance in Australia was really only thought of in 8 cylinders (Ford Sierra's weren't sold here) and a weird 4wd turbo coupe that nobody had heard of from a company making Datsun 180B's punished all of them. I love many different cars but I think everyone has to love the R32 GTR!!
American giants ??? there were none or very few anyway
if holden competed with the gtr instead of assisting in banning it maybe the would still be relevant today
So true
Your correct they just jealous and can't handle losing.
@iJousKa63 incorrect, they changed Aussie Motorsport and it became a nascar style fanfare, and that partly killed sales
@iJousKa63 you could go to a Nissan dealer, buy that car, and do that to it and go beat absolutely everything
It couldn't compete because it couldn't make anywhere near the same horsepower as the Nissan. A cast iron pushrod V8 engine can only take so much and Holden wasn't interested in the cost of developing an aluminium block engine that would save almost 100kg off the front of the Commodore.
They did toy with the idea to convert the GTR to RWD only which would be fair as that way it wouldn't have the start/drive off corner that it demonstrated so well.
The GTR is truly a legend in looks and performance. The Holden, under the Group A rules was never going to match it, though it did beat it in sound! Watch Brocky's qualifying run of the same year!
5sec a lap faster than the v8's of the time....ouch. A masterpeice
The v8 family cars hahaha
@@carlob517 not really relevant, they weren't even close to family cars by the time they were on the track, fully built v8's no interior, cage etc, same amount of work as this r32, this just show's that v8's can't always be the topdog, I mean this lap held the record from 1991 to 2018
@@jesse6779 firstly, the skylines they were racing weren’t exactly road legal either.
Secondly nissans raced at Bathurst for over a decade and yet the skyline only ever won two races. Not the world crushing performance when you take a step back and get a proper perspective of Nissan’s efforts as a whole.
Thirdly the fact that the skyline was AWD was a massive advantage in the corners, make them front or rear wheel drive only like everything else and watch them finish at the back of the field
And finally, turbos were impossible ensure compliance. It was so easy to hide how teams were able to raise the psi of their turbos once they were past the scrutineers. It was hilarious at first to see the old bluebirds and R31s either plod along at half the pace or rip around the track faster than everything else for a few laps before they started spewing oil and smoke everywhere.
@@danieljones7843 Firstly...and lastly...THE GTR was designed from the ground up to go Racing and dominate...the Dinosaur Commodore was designed as a 4 door family car...that they tried to take Racing and failed against a pure bred...simple as that...The End.
@@jesse6779 the FACT is...the Commodores WERE designed to be a 4 door family Car from the ground up...THE GTR was designed from the ground up to go Racing and dominate...it Did
The Skyline was the crowning glory of the Australian Motorsport community's arrogance. Holden and Ford are now paying the ultimate price. They carried on with the "If you can't beat 'em, ban 'em" mentality that severely curtailed their push for new technology. If either the Commodore or Falcon had been properly developed into a Skyline beater, we wouldn't be seeing our factories close. The GT-R became god because it was unbeatable. The falcadore had it's chance to take it's place. Pity we failed
Well said DB
Yup, that is truly embarrassing 🤢
The ATCC and Supercars was always one of the best series to watch worldwide, it's biggest shortcoming was diversity in the end. So Aussie cars became inbred, they offered a limited line up of very similar cars with less compelling reasons to buy them over other brands each year.
Racing development drives passenger car development to some degree for all brands, if you ban other brands from competing you're just stalling development.
Kinda reminds me of how Ford slowed the 6s down towards the end of the Windsor days, people were getting upset that Xr6s were nearly as fast or in some cases faster than the XR8s even though they were cheaper. Probably could have had a factory turbo falcon or a DOHC model earlier if attitudes were different; although a Windsor full clap is a sound to behold and I would almost spend the extra money and bear the extra weight to choose one. Almost.
100% True and correct...even the RS500 Cosworth Sierra was specifically designed to go Racing...as obviously was THE GTR..The Commodore was just designed as a 4 door family Car that they tried to take Racing...Holden's idea of technology was...just put a bigger engine and some plastic aero on a family car instead of designing something specific to race...I remember when I owned MY Nissan EXA Turbo which was Fuel injected and Turbo...and looking at my Mum's new VK Commodore that had an old Red motor in it and thinking wow...that's as good as Holden could offer? When I saw Fury's qualifying lap in his Turbo Bluebird I just knew that is where everything is heading...I saw the writing on the wall especially for Holden decades ago that they would end up broke...No manufacturer...well...if you call making ONE CAR a manufacturer as all the other models were imported..you're bound to go broke...The Commodore was just decades behind on what the market dictated...know one wanted a big 4 door RWD family car anymore...and the stuff Holden were importing as everyone knows was just garbage...People got better educated from this pesky little thing called the Internet. People also realised that Holden was no longer really Australians car anymore.
Holden from the very start, until the very end only really made one car...a large 4 door rear wheel drive only family car...the World had moved on...IMO...sadly if Holden had of stepped up and built/designed a car to compete than maybe they would be still around...instead of..."Can't beat em...Ban em" attitude
this comment is very true, the decline of holden and ford, people don't want to accept the truth. It is what it is.
man that exhaust and engine note sound so damn good.
“and this is where the GT-R...”
BWAHHHHHHHH
“...at about 158 kilometers...”
BWAHHH BWAHHHHH
beautiful commentary.
I agree wholeheartedly. That is why I own one. They just couldn't compete, and no Australian manufacturer was willing to bury the money into making a race car from the ground up and then transfer it to the general car market, as Nissan did with the R32 GTR. I love my car and I smile when I sit next to a clubsport or senator.
Hands down the greatest GTR livery period. The calsonic doesn’t even come close.
2:16 why they call it godzilla
They called it Godzilla because it walk over the top of the mountain like Godzilla u fool
Look it up
*godzirra
@@AngryTurds *gojira if you want the japanese pronunciation
3:23 oh God that RB rumble!!! 😍😍
What did you just say... "The GTR was never a touring car"????!!!
Despite winning the Australian TOURING Car Championship three years in a row?
Despite winning 29 times out of 29 starts in the Japanese Group A TOURING cars?
Despite the WHOLE concept being designed from the ground up to compete in touring car racing? From the engine, the drivetrain, to the chassis. (look it up)
The GTR was the most dominant TOURING car of its time.
Fastest car on a circuit, it dominates on public roads too! And emblem GTR on trunk is an invincible legend!
This was the fastest and most powerful group A Skyline from Australia at that time. Ausies built faster gtrs than the Japanese, not even Nismo Japans group A skylines with likes of the Calsonic and STP and HKS R32 Gtrs (not the drag car) were as powerful as this one, at that period in time. One thing Holden did not realize at the time was, that this car was tuned, built and tested by Australians with the nissan badge on it. Now the whole world builds faster GTRs than whats currently in Japan on the streets. I think the whole world needs some credit by the country of origin for the level at which high performance GTRs are being built by other countries ( brand community awareness).
The Boss of Nissan didn't even want our GTR's raceing in Japan...as they were better
I dare in the Dick Johnson also had the fastest Sierras too!
Without Japan or Nissan GTR wouldn't exist, if aussies are really that great where the fck are your domestic market vehicle companies ... oh thats right, holden went belly up. Gtfoh with your ignorant comments.
@Australian Outlander yep they did. Dick Johnson participated at a guest entrant in the British touring car series in a few races in the, "old days", his cars had the fastest straight line speed. The Texaco sierras could not keep up.
Here was where the modern legend of the GODZILLA GTR was coined. The car has lived off of that ever since..
godzilla was just a weapon...had the honor of being at bathurst in 1990 for it's mountain debut had it not been for a dodgy cv joint it would of won by 10+ laps .. a thrill to witness in person !!
This should be one of the legendary livery like Taisan Yokohama, Calsonic, HKS, Nikko Kyoseki
That mighty RB roar!
Imagine if they were allowed to continue running the Nissan Bluebird in Bathurst.....? It only ceased competing due to the introduction of the Skyline and that only 1 type of vehicle could be entered from a manufacture that was outside of Ford and Holden. The Bluebird was seriously a giant killer for what it was running when competing, a 1.8L turbo. Had it been a go ahead and allowed to continue imagine come 1989 with the introduction of the Bluebird Attesa which runs the infamous SR20DET coupled with 4WD. It would have been a no doubt 1,2 finish for Nissan. Sure those will argue the Cosworth would more than likely beat the Bluebird, I will disagree due to the fact the Cozzy engine was too temperamental and struck too many mechanical issues due to it being far too highly tuned above its capabilities.
I'm in love.
This cant be a real girl...
Check Mate ikr .
Great video. Awesome to see the skyline bouncing around and twitching out of corners. I miss the good old days when the cars actually looked like they were going fast around bathurst.
Sounds lovely when he pulls upto to camera!
R32 Skyline Coupe - last of the good-looking Nissans; wish I'd never sold my GTST coupe, even if the turbo did make it a bit lethal on wet roundabouts; just as you were exiting, the turbo would spin up and woo-err, it was backwards through a hedge if you weren't quick with the opposite lock - i can see why they made the GTR 4wd! still a bloody nice drive.
+racketman2u youre a shit driver and many nissans look good after 32 if not all LOl moron
+wiredsk8r thanks, we need more contributions from abusive little seven year old sk8erbois who have a vast knowledge of automobiles gained from Grand Theft Auto.
racketman2u I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!
wiredsk8r I bet you've never even been in an R32 xD
I always thought R34s were stylistically nice too, but if I could have any GTR, it would definitely be a 32.
King of group A
2:22, look at that backfire from the side 😍
fantastic driving period, back when skylines were fast, man i miss the 90s
THE SOUND OF THE INLINE 6 IS BAD ASS
That idling "burble" at 3:23, while he tries talking over the beast!
This is where skaifey coined his classic phrase “that’s as good as we can do” which he said after every one of his 326 pole positions at the mountain
That’s amazing, Skaifey must have been doing laps of the mountain on a horse 300 years ago. The things you learn hey.
Comparing lap times across different years is quite meaningless. Holden and Ford had 10 whole years to improve technology. That is, better tyres, fuel, aerodynamics, chassis, more power and lighter weight.
The truth remains that in 1990-1992, the GTR was the best touring car. Miles ahead of the aussie v8s...
Gotta love the Aussie motto: If you can't beat 'em ... ban 'em 😂
Looking through some of the comments on here, they just seem petty.
I'm a petrolhead. Being British, and having grown up with cars such as the Ford Cosworths, my preference would be to the smaller turbo'd engine and 4WD layout of the Skyline. but I would also quite happily have a Vauxhall VXR8 (re-badged Holden Monaro HS-V), and I'd take either to the local track and have the same amount of fun in them.
1:45 Ooooooh Yeah!!! Turn it up....so good!
It's been faithfully recreated in Project Cars 2, along with Bathurst.
I know what I'm doing tonight!
matdan2
And a plug...
Look at the way it almost hops and skips through cambered corners and rough tarmac. It must've been setup to be rock-solid.
Amazing car thanks for posting
George Furys time still stands as the track was changed in 87
I love that’s video 👍👍
Nice! Never realised he drove a GTR :)
@caling53 typical bogan comment the ATESSA was the main thing that made them quick. They made them put ballsat in the car, lowered the boost and they still kicked arse. The only way they could beat them was to ban them.
Watching Bathurst today (2023) the top speed down Conrod was pretty much the same at Skaify way back in 1991. But pole was a 2.04 lap - so the current cars pick up 8 seconds across the mountain. That’s really interesting - brakes and tyres will be better as well of course.
But if we’re honest, Bathurst was way better back when there were a wide variety of cars racing. Miss those days.
The greatest qualifying lap ever at Mt Panorama
No, that would be George Fury's 1984 lap in the 1770cc Datsun Bluebird Turbo, the fastest tin top lap ever on the original layout of the Mount Panorama Circuit. His record will stand forever.
PXH Club
Lol ja
I can't even have a good line in games and this dude here going like maniac
exactly, considering the difference in top speeds hasnt changed much, still high 290's. In motor racing terms 10-12years is forever. For its time it was just so far ahead of the competition it just wasnt fair!
Top speed is limited with the current cars by diff gears and the huge rear wings they run.
Skaive is a god long live straight 6
Love the backfire @:43 sec.
The best cars that ever raced, followed by the Sierra before it became boring
just to think that i was laughed at in 1984 when i said V8s time was coming to an end and tech was just around the corner
Fastest ever Group A lap of Mt Panorama and the fastest 'Touring Car" lap ever at the track. Sorry, I don't really class V8 Supercars as touring cars any more.
Gary Wilkinson mentions George Fury's Nissan Bluebird time of 1984 (2:13.85) but that track as shorter then (pre Caltex Chase) and typically lap times are roughly 4 seconds slower. So Fury's Bluebird would have struggled to do a 2 minute 18 lap on this version of the track.
Fuck yes !
What an era!
0:42 check out that back fire baby!
Awesome car ahead of its time j
I see many comments on other related v8 vids that mention it was a good thing that they made the Holden VS Ford concept, i disagree and think it actually deluded their audience and imo i am so happy they are doing away with that concept of just Ford and Holden manufactuer's. I am one that has not followed v8 supper cars but will be tuning now because i am a big Nissan fan.
Such a beautiful machine.👌
600hp+ with a shit group A aero kit this car was fuck yeah! But without that hollinger box this car would not have had sucsess with the enduros. Thank fuck for Fred Gibson, Richards, and skaife!
MIKE LOWREY salty much?
Where did you get the impression he was salty? He complimented the car and mentioned a single downfall.
Alan Heaphy had a bit to do with it too
Obviously putting a turbo on a v8 would beat a turbo 6 half the capacity.
The Skyline is engineered better for racing in every way; using a chassis designed for track work, better weight distribution, modern technologies such as forced induction and all wheel drive to make an aggressive touring car. The v8 (and commodore/ falcon chassis) is a dinosaur. It's dying out. It's under-engineered, a simply "bigger is better" solution.
@KXRider212 well a dead stock ss running 10psi runs 10s in the quarter,quicker than a near stock gtir by some considerable margin.A gen3 v8 is cheaper to buy s/h than sr20,and makes 850 horsepower dead stock on 12psi.
@KXRider212 I dont drive a V8 anyway,im just saying having pushrods doesnt make an engine obsolete.The valves are only one aspect of an engine.
Buddy you need to do some research on the physics of an OHC engine vs pushrod. There is a reason absolutely NO modern car engine is built with a pushrod design....so whoever said pushrod is obsolete is absolutely right. The only reason supercars have kept the pushrod design for so long is it is seen as a cheaper alternative that is a little more robust (same as nascar).
Quoted as 460kw in qualifying trim. Looks it too.
Check the turn-in on this car at the end of conrod. Youd have a stiff neck after driving this thing all day at bathurst
Beautiful car
No, the R32 is Homologated as Group A so therefore its is a touring car. They were ruled out because they wern't a Holden or Ford V8, so they couldn't rsce in the V8 Supercar series.
Godzilla was a blowtorch to the belly of GMH and Ford.
I'm trying to come up with a Skaifey livery for one of my Gr3 cars on GranTurismo.
what a car!
Ford's raced seirra's in the 80's, they competed with xc coupe cobra's prior to that, holden also competed with torana's and monaros, all of these car's are examples of coupes with powerful motors in them, if your arguemnt against the gtr is that it's not 4 doors or rwd in comparison to today's cars, then perhaps you should re-think your comments. Rules were different back then, also a GTR is "NOT" a 4wd coupe, it only engages the 4wd based on torque, not all the time
forgot to mention an M10 is a 1.5l (destroked for the f1 car) 4 cylinder
Big block v8's aren't very tunable... it takes a lot of space and weight. Japan is all about how much power you can squeeze out from engines that are small and weigh less....
@Suprastar77 Thats cos they spent Quarter mil on the engine,compared to 80thou on a holden engine designed in 1967,which still blew away the gtr in the early days of tuning,b4 they spend 3/4 mil on the gtr so it could keep up.
fuckn mean this car gives me shivers up my spine,kicked the v8s all over the show.BRING BACK THE GTR...
the best Australia has beside me is a 1person that swims LOL
Love the howl of that 6 being spanked 😋.
This is true like Group B rally and F1 turbo
I.LOVE.THIS.CAR.
People tend to forget cams introduced Group 3A to slow the Sierras down - which were barely faster than they were 5 yrs earlier.
Thats because of project blueprint which made the rules and regulations on whats allowed became very strict, the same will be the case in 2013 for Nissan.
#rAii
To run a 2:12 thirty years ago.. 🙏🙌
@caling53 the v8s are nearly twice the engine size of the skyline 6 cylinder so why say that
The same way Nissan made a 4-door, rwd, naturally aspirated family car into a 2-door twin turbo, 4wd sports car? We could have had the new Monaro 10 years earlier! My favourite Commodore has to be the VN SS Group A yet to my knowledge its the only one that never won at Bathurst - imagine if they'd coupified it and stroked it out a little!
The R32 GTR was designed from the Ground Up to go Racing and dominate...NOT ADAPTED from anything else unlike the Commodore that was a 4 door family Car that they just threw a v8 in and some plastic aero on...and THAT was the reason it was no where close to being competitive.
This was fast,but 12 years on in 2003 Murphy did 2:06 which lasted til Lowndes beat it.In 12 years they took 6 seconds off the lap record,but in the next 10 years they've only knocked around a second off it.These new cars of the future will be interesting to see what sort of times they can produce,If they thrash the Aussie V8's,the rules will magically change,yet again,to ban everything but Aussie V8's.Its sad that the V8 supercar management dont like fast race cars and ban them from racing
SKAIFEY!!
This is the original Godzilla and got its name on this circuit
What bar were they running there that bang out the first corner Unbelievable how good 😊 If only they let that car continue imagine what it be now holy shit
1.6 -1.8 bar...but in 92 it was hobbled with a pop off valve set to 1.3 and it lost about 100hp...then after tuning each cylinder individually they gained back about 80hp...from memory the Sierra's (Dick Johnson) was allowed 2.4 bar to qualify
If only Holden had just installed VN bodies over R32 floorpans instead
I don’t know too much about the various models etc however after the race I was lucky to purchase one of these twin turbo beauties from a guy that was importing them direct from Japan for around 40k
I still have this white Godzilla with only 28k on the clock
I might see what it’s worth one day
I've also seen your channel and the million and one comments defending the v8's so i don't think you will ever understand the other perspective. They could have aspired to beat the gtr however they gave up, that's the disappointing part of it. Maybe all the young blokes would be getting around in turbo 2 door 4wd holden/fords rather than gtrs? or maybe they still couldn't beat the gtr ;) would have been INTERESTING to find out.
Wel if you want to compare the RB26 to a V8 its a little unfair considering the RB26 will more than likely tkae it, unless your talking about a big block in which case thats more like comparing a 426 hemi to 318. If center of gravity was an issue with the RB they obviously found a way to counter that becasue most vehicles with an RB handle just fine and dont have an issue. The OHC design is great and push rods are great as well. Why not just love all engines and cars?
too many fanboys
The original Godzilla
the rb26 is only 16kg lighter than the old chev small blocks and holden stroker motors back then. remember the skyline weighed a good 140kg more than the vn group a before the skyline had ballast added. everyone and i mean everyone hated the skylines back then. Aussies inherrently go for the little guy. and back then the commodore was the aussie battler!!!
GTR.
How fast do you want it ? Add another 7 k ‘s to even it to 300.
Well said, Jusoate has no idea.
Jeezus the volume is like x10
My cats shat themselves