Are they actually reselling anything copyrighted tho? Sure, ER itself is, but they can probably just add their own stuff and call on the in-game library for the base game assets they need, but I haven't analyzed their files, I can't say.
@@ZanderSabbag well you don't need to resell it. You simply can't paywall copyrighted assets anywhere. I remember read that Nintendo take down an emulator app because they paywalled a copyrighted assets (which is their code). Just because you add more stuff, GoE still fundamentally use copyright assets as the base unless GoE recreated every new asset from scratch, which is unlikely and can also become another legal problem. I never see or hear that GoE have any license from Fromsoft themself so yeah, if they come to GoE, he is cooked. This is why most mod like Convergence, they put it for free and all income are through donation. This is how they dodge all legal consequences and less likely to get shot by a lawsuit because the mods are technically unprofitable and free for public.
I don't understand how Garden of Eyes hasn't been squashed by Fromsoft/whoever else yet. You can't sell mods for a game you don't own. All mods are "if you want to support me you can donate, if you don't you can still use it". There's no way GoE has permission to do this and sell it. I guess they either don't know or don't care enough about it.
You know what's more crazy about this comment? Nobody asked, and plenty of other mods are behind a paywall. Cyberpunk 2077 VR mod has been a paywall for over 2 years. What about all the mods Bethesda used and never gave money to the creators of said mods? even though they charged $5+ for every single bs mod for console dorks like yourself.
@@PareSM Not when you're clearly doing illegal shit by using stolen assets from the devs, but also using stolen assets from an assortment of other modders.
@@PareSMregardless of how big of an overhaul it is, paywalling/selling mods will always be shady business. As the other guy said, if you open donations and give away the mod for free (like everyone else) and make kickass content like this people WILL give you money for it. But you dont paywall it, the assets you used to build this overhaul are still not yours otherwise you essentially grab someone else's game, change some code and sell it as your own. So plaigarism. Its shady.
@@brandonperez8133 Well, he for instance participated on a Cripto Scam, and GoE also has the "relevance" of stealing assets from another mods, such as the Seamless Coop
Well the difference is Skyrim can run on anything, and if jt can you can get the 32-bit legendary edition (the original one) Elden ring, while great, can't run on medium low to low end rigs, which is also very understandable and reasonable
@@ZanderSabbag It's stolen assets, they've been in trouble for doing the same shit before, which is why they're now called GoE, they changed their name multiple times
Editor pls pin 😮 A reminder that Garden of Eyes is a mod thief, and that paying to use mods is an immoral practice that abuses copyright. It is not GoE's intellectual property to monetize, and puts other mods in jeopardy of being taken down as a result of his greed. GoE has tried to hide this by changing their channel name, as they were formerly known first as Sanadsk, and even earlier as Omegafantasy, respectively. They have stolen content and bullied people off various platforms and underpaid people to make mods for him, and gaslit people when accused of wrongdoing. As cool as GoE's stuff looks, it is not worth supporting and therefore condoning bad their behaviour, especially when it's still very much easily discoverable. Edit: Just look up "Sanadsk Dark Souls", and you will see the guy's history unearthed.
Garden of Eyes is an incredibly unethical project that pays a team to steal content from other modders & FromSoft themselves and then redistributes / paywalls it on Patreon btw, wouldn't support the mod or the author in any capacity.
@@janogabor7697I was about to say. That sounds so dumb. There’s no way anyone but old people fall for that. Or is it people who play EA games that fall for it?
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 i think there was wrestler who paid a lot of money for it. Sadly with the sudden influx of intrest scammers also came in. It's easy to think nobody falls for these, but they do
makes me wonder if they got permission from FromSoftware. maybe they have to pay royalties or something. probably not though, it will likely be shutdown.
@@alessandromaccaroni8481 Meaning they're actively breaking copyright by monetizing a mod to FromSoft's game. I'm not sure about the legality on if they can separately set up donations instead to avoid this, but barring the mod itself behind a paywall can get them easily sued at any point.
I don't think Asmon knows or cares, but GoE is paywalled when it shouldn't be. The mod author went by another name, Sanadsk. He's had a controversial history for stealing and plagiarizing from other mod authors and scamming his fans. He even sponsored a rune selling site on one his videos recently, that alone should tell you a lot about this person. His Garden of Eyes overhaul mod paywalled through his patreon. Since he's using copyrighted assets (including from other FromSoftware games like Bloodborne, Sekiro, Dark Souls) which is considered illegal. To how he keeps getting away with this is beyond my comprehension, maybe Bamco or FromSoftware don't know or don't care. Point is, Asmon played Archthrone's demo and that mod was FREE and will remain that way once its finished. Convergence is FREE and still getting updated with awesome boss designs. Reforged is also FREE. Sanadsk will NEVER make Garden of Eyes free, no matter what he promises. Early access doesn't equal to having a paywall. He could easily suggest to donate like most mod authors would do and that would've been fine. Honestly, if he just took down the paywall and stop trying to scam his fans, Garden of Eyes would be a decent overhaul mod to play, since he ported over assets from other games, including bosses. I do like some of his weapon changes, but I heard there are balancing issues with his mods. I'll admit one thing is that at least he puts in effort to make something cool like what's showcased in this video. That is the only positive thing I can say about Garden of Eyes. TL;DR Convergence > Garden of Eyes
if that really bothers you, send them a link to this vid to fromsoft or whoever you want to, in twitter, etc etc you're in your right to do so (it's fine for me, don't feel bad) after that, if ppl want to pay them... well, it doesn't matter what you say, it's not your right to tell others what they can do
@@MrPsykopeta I'm not telling people what to do. People can do whatever they want. All I'm doing is help spread awareness, and I'm not the only one who's doing that.
Then why are you wrong lol? Do you genuinely think you just know about a open illegal operation that’s months long and widely published that FS and Patreon have done nothing about? Or do you think maybe you’re just wrong and it’s legal? Do you even know what you’re talking about or did you just repeat what you saw on a Reddit comment or something lol
@@tyco1649 That FS hasn´t done anything yet doesn´t make it magically legal. But that is illegal, *is illegal* , and can explain you why. A mod is a derivative work of an existent IP, and according to copyright, only the owner of said IP can distribute and gain money for derivative works. The only valid exception is that the mod is *completely* custom and doesn´t profit for an IP that isn´t their,for instance; making a complete custom horror game for a Doom mod is something that can be seen as overall, valid. Also could be case that the owner of the IP and the modder makes an agreeiment, and for instance, they sell the mod on steam where both can gain money,. So let me ask you: Do you think that the mod who has an update as Malenia as a main point, and steal Fromsoft assets, and cases of other mods as well just to sell it on Patreon for a 5 buck montly service, meet any of these requirements?
As someone who was browsing Nexus randomly and found a Skyrim mod that added a whole region of Tamriel that only had 100 endorsements at the time, I concur. Summerset Isle btw, if anyone's curious. Adds the homeland of high elves complete with dungeons, towns, voiced NPCs, treasures, & 180 quests. Easily as large as TES games usually are vanilla. It's got 1700 endorsements now, still tiny compared to the sheer scale of it. Not that I've played it yet.
This isnt a mod , this is the manifestation of gold diggers who dont want to create an alpha release like convergence :/ this fight is good but go check convergence , they take a little more time to create things but they work is MUCH better ! And to be honest this is one of the rare good work in they mod , they don't reuse other moveset of bosses ect ...well often .
Convergence is hardcore ass, slight recolors billed as new bosses and a hackers move set are apparently a good mod? Every single weapon or skill they added looks like a 13 year olds fanfic idea of what’s cool
@@johnway8819 yeah yeah nice argument ive seen every content in both dont need to be smart to see that even if convergence make less things ,they are way better , as for the animations , weapon or spells look but the bosses are just done better than them
So disappointed that Asmon would react to this Elden Ring mod of all things. The one with the most controversy, stolen assets from FS games and other ER modders, pay wall instead of being free and the mod owner just straight up being a dickhead. If you want to see and appreciate the hard work of actual good modders for Elden Ring check out: Elden Ring Convergence, Graceborne, Elden Ring Reforged. All amazing mods and FREE.
Who cares fromsoft is done with ER, this guy uses his spare time to create something new and unique and is clearly doing it better then fromsoft. (Eldenring dlc is zogzhiit).
From what you know? What do you know? He asked for context not hearsay, I keep saying people say this; what specific mods has he stolen from? Who has he bullied?
You guys are giving asmon too much credit. He would never do research like that. Shout out to the comments though for letting everyone know this is paywalled copyright theft
You shouldn’t be plugging this mod. The creator steals most of his work from other mods without crediting them and he puts his mods behind paywalls. No you DO NOT deserve payment for making a mod. If you want money for making something. Make your own game. Mod makers who charge money need to be put on blast.
This gets it taken down faster. There's concern trolling as much as Karen's existing on the Internet so expect an email being sent to the Fromsoft team
Garden of eye's mods should be taken down imo Before the dlc came out he modded in some weapons that were part of the dlc. And put it behind a paywall. He reuses assets and puts it behind a paywall. You dont see the people behind convergence or ERR charging people for mods do you? This dude is abusing how chill fromsoft it.
Didn't created any new game, it's just copy paste files from FromSoftware assets and classic finishing touch on this is that it is hidden behind a pay wall. Just a thief doing immoral practices. This thief didn't
He can't even put together the files correctly. At 9:55 he straight up ripped Ibis wing attack from AC6 but he failed to properly translate the projectiles from one game to the other so they just disappear.
I mean, stuff like this exists in various action games like Devil May Cry if this is the goal, where the player (especially the player) also moves like this , instead of hitting 1-2 times then rolling in the dirt... Doesn't souls-game potential lie elsewhere? (World design, more steady-paced-but-precised fights, tho' well, the DLC already pushes that , heh).
@@Alorand you can't torrent this stuff, he encodes the files and makes you install malware that checks if your subbed to his Patreon or the mods won't load and no I'm not exaggerating anything here
I mean it is only 5$ for a month that's really not bad even if they do steal assets I could care less personally I mean if you want high quality content it's usually paid for.
@@BLM.MASTER "even if they do bad things, i'm still willing to pay them because they put work into making high quality content" do you hear yourself? does fromsoft not make quality content? quality isn't equal to ethical or legal practices. so if someone took part of your hard work and then went and made money off of it ,you'd be fine? just cause it's "high quality"? strange mentality to have.
Am I the asshole for thinking this jsut looks ok? Some of the new effects and animation are great, but the fight doesn't seem particularly well designed
No, you dont. This have the 1:1 issues of Pre-nerf Radahn, the only good thing about this fight is the custcene and the music. Visual clutter , very easy to recognice Sekiro copypasted moveset, which results on an overtuned one which makes the posture break basically impossible, because surprise surprise, *despite what people says, Elden Ring bosses acts like Elden Ring bosses, not Sekiros*
Okay and wheres the lawsuit for luke ross and all of his PAID mods for games to be played in VR? It's been over 3 years.... Imagine using an emoji when you're over the age of 18
it does make a lot more sense. and it's cool how it's in reverse of the original malenia fight. she starts off as her "goddess of rot" form, but becomes her true self again once miquela "heals" her. another thing to note, in that second phase, notice how much agile she is than when we fight her in the vanilla base game. i imagine this is what she was probably like before the rot overtook her.
If Asmongold and his TH-cam team have any respect for the Elden Ring community, they will seriously consider taking this video down. They are unknowingly (hopefully at least) supporting a known mod scammer that is stealing and paywalling mods and bringing attention to it in ways that do NOT benefit gamers (either the scammer gets paid or bandai takes action against all mods for ER).
For a mod that has been under “development” since the launch of the game, you’d think they’d finish what they have in the base game first before starting anything in the dlc. Wait until people see that this mod will never finish just like their mod they took a huge part of in DS3, COTA.
9:08 and this cross slash is from god of war ragnarok, Alva the light elf boss from alfheim. This mod took so many attacks from so many different games and managed to combine it into one cool boss. Love it
Radahn is also Miquella's brother btw (both sons of Radagon). So does Mogh. (both sons of Marika). Also remember that Radagon is Marika. Looks like the whole Lands Between is somewhere in Alabama)
The modding scene in Elden Ring is one of the craziest I've had to witness. I've tried so many mods for this game and they're extremely impressive. Especially boss modifying mods or mods that add entirely new bosses to the game. It's insane how passionate these people are to making this game feel fresh again or just making goofy mods to have fun in the game like One Piece collection mods.
Ah yes, peak boss design. Weird jerky movement, unreactable attacks, visual clutter on screen so you can’t see anything. That’s how indie soulslike bosses look when devs don’t know wtf they’re doing.
A guy walks into a bar and asks for 1.4 root beers. The bartender says "I'll have to charge you extra, that's a root beer float". The guy says "In that case, better make it a double."
First phase does not give me Consort vibes at all, more like a demonic resurrection as Miquellas last resort to stop the Tarnished. So it makes 0 sense to me when phase transitions.
ruined the artistic aspect of both malenia and her signature fighting stile as flowing waters, radahn was always the strongest demi god so malenia as the promissed consort makes no sense, the move sets doesnt look like a god, looks like a weird monster which takes off the feeling that you are fighting against a legend, and the choice of radahn as the promissed consort had some weird feeling about it because it was gay and he was his brother, not talking about the contrast of miquelas age and radahn interests once radahn would never want a age of peace since he had passion for war, showing us his age was not all that good, if someone hired that dude for their company they would have major issues once he doesnt understand the directors vision not by a single bit.
Im honestly most impressed about the music. They managed to mix together all the memorable parts of Mohg's and Malenia's themes as well as the parts of PCR's theme that are clearly meant to represent Miquella and made it sound good despite the fundamentally different tones. It gets a little stale in the 2nd phase and while a nice touch, the intro during the cutscene doesnt fit a 100% to the cutscene and the continuation, but overall it gets very close to the level of the default PCR music.
Unpopular opinion, but man, do I hate these mods. Their just too gawdy, the over the top anime moves give me a headache and often times just don't work mechanically. I mean, it's fine, its a mod, no one is forcing me to play it, but the more popular these become, the more Fromsoft will start copying them. And in the ER dlc I definitely felt like Fromsoft was trying to replicate these types of mods. It wasn't bad, I can handle a few obnoxious anime weapons and one screen blinding boss, but I just fear that it's going to eventually become the norm.
Wait until you hear that the mod creator has rebranded himself 3 times due to stealing other modders' works, ripping assets from other games and then charging money for access.
same thought i had honestly the dlc's was pushing it and i think its a experimental move. but these mods are too spectacle extravaganza that you can't even enjoy the game. looks like a circus show or some sort
I don't mind these types of mods, at least just from viewing (not sure how truly balanced it actually is). As long as fromsoft doesn't take notes from these, luckily I think elden ring dlc is the most insane bosses will get. At least spectacle wise
Yeah, this Boss has Sekiro moveset that isn't the ideal on a Game about posture breaks. Maybe you want to try DS Archthrones, now thats is a *cool mod*
Mechanically it's an amazing mod. The cutscenes, new move animations and flow of battle are all awesome. It doesn't make any sense with the established lore though. Malenia is an Empyrean, which means she is just as eligible as her brother Miquella and half sister Ranni to become a God. She's not just a powerful Demigod to be picked as a Consort. She is already under the influence of the Outer God of Rot. On top of that, this mod's lore is pushing the incest over the Lannister cliff by having Malenia become her twin brother's Consort. Other than those issues and the fact that this mod is monetized I loved both phases of the fight and the art design for Malenia.
man.. so many sekiro's bosses moves in this.. its just a compilation of sekiro's boss move jumbled together and make this, using a reskin malenia to sell the mod on top of that
I know there was a lot of work put into this , but to me it kinda looks tasteless for a boss to be such an amalgamation of different weapons/attacks/move sets (most of which belong to other bosses from the game). Kinda lacks style . I'm curious if so many people would have liked it if it was made by a professional studio 🤔
The only thing bro did is make a custom theme (tbh this is the only good part), edited the model with fromesoft assets, added moves from other souls games and people really glaze him for this? Like isn't it the standard? Like even without the fact that its illegal to sell copyrighted assets (they get away becouse they say its "early acess" but their other mods are still paywalled) the boss looks kinda unfun.
*I wonder how much stolen content is in this mod?* You can get this mod at kemono, mods should NOT be charged for. Also this modder has a reputation for *stealing* content from other mod authors who do things for free, as it should be.
Garden of Eyes has been at it for a long time, dissecting and splicing assets in Fromsoft titles. They've so many hours you can burn in videos of them pitting bosses against one another in monster fight compilations. Like Malenia vs bosses, Isshin vs bosses, Orphan of Kos vs bosses, etc.
Imagine pay walling a friggin' mod. Call me whatever you like but I hope they see repercussions for doing that. We all deal with enough corporate greed in our daily lives as is, I ain't tryna get milked dry by the community either. Edit: It's an entirely different story if the mod were free but they had a link to a p*treon or whatever because then any love and support for the mod could optionally go towards financially supporting them but they'd rather get greedy with it.
@@IgnoreMeImWrong Which is why if you keep reading my comment you'd see that it would be totally cool if they pursued financial gain through an optional means instead. Modding is and has always been a community driven thing, for the love and passion of the game. Everyone's time is valuable and should be respected but taking someone else's work and trying to repackage it to sell it is just lame. That's exactly what that mod is, taking FS's assets and paywalling what they've recreated with them. I call that scum behavior. I'm all for supporting modders because they do it for free but I'm under the impression they do it for the passion and love of the game with making money being secondary, hence why it's way easier of a pill to swallow if it's not mandatory. It's a mod bro, not the original product.
@@IgnoreMeImWrong The paywall is illegal, the mod is ass, and the creator is a terrible person who has done countless fraudulent things. I ripped the files to play it.
Crazy thing is we may well get another DLC, and for most games the modding community doesn't even really get started until they know all the DLC is out.
It's impressive, but I wonder why people would spend so much effort and time working on copyrighted material. And trying to sell it. At this point the dude who made this is just hoping From never actually bothers to take it down.
That's shit was insaaaaaaaane, phase 1 was nice but that phase 2 was absolute cinema. She uses The eurporia spec, the martial arts, she blocks and parries you, the effects and the armor on her looks beautiful, maaaaaaaan, loved it.
Oh the mod thief is back. I wonder who posted that on Asmongold reddit.... free advertisement I guess. Hopefully the increased eyes (heh) on it means it's more likely they will finally be taken down.
Much better mod than the first Radahn one. That one you couldn't realistically beat him due to him blinking around faster than you can swing. This one looks actually playable.
Being able to run up to the gate before the battle starts makes it feel so much more epic. I hate how the fight starts immediately upon entering the fog wall. Honestly, fromsoft dropped the ball colossally with Shadow of the Erdtree. This is the first time someone has made a mod to replace the final boss, & it’s blown up because it’s so good it’s better than the actual one. If not in terms of story, definitely in terms of presentation
This is more than a mod. It's someone's application for their new job.
Hopefully they don’t have blue hair.
i don't know how to explain to people that don't play video games how impressive this is for a mod
And a nose ring with hipster glasses
It's not @@chains_xo
@@sirhc8927 or pronouns
The annoying part mod from GoE are all paywalled.
Which is crazy since as far as I am aware, you can't paywall any copyrighted assets.
Are they actually reselling anything copyrighted tho? Sure, ER itself is, but they can probably just add their own stuff and call on the in-game library for the base game assets they need, but I haven't analyzed their files, I can't say.
it is illegal yes, but he isnt big enough for bandai namco/fromsoft to look into
at this point I would call this fair use lmao this is just better than any fucking fight in the main game
@@ZanderSabbag well you don't need to resell it.
You simply can't paywall copyrighted assets anywhere.
I remember read that Nintendo take down an emulator app because they paywalled a copyrighted assets (which is their code).
Just because you add more stuff, GoE still fundamentally use copyright assets as the base unless GoE recreated every new asset from scratch, which is unlikely and can also become another legal problem.
I never see or hear that GoE have any license from Fromsoft themself so yeah, if they come to GoE, he is cooked.
This is why most mod like Convergence, they put it for free and all income are through donation.
This is how they dodge all legal consequences and less likely to get shot by a lawsuit because the mods are technically unprofitable and free for public.
Depends if bandai/from take action. I'm adament that's what was yuzus downfall. Was stupid to paywall the beta
I don't understand how Garden of Eyes hasn't been squashed by Fromsoft/whoever else yet. You can't sell mods for a game you don't own. All mods are "if you want to support me you can donate, if you don't you can still use it".
There's no way GoE has permission to do this and sell it. I guess they either don't know or don't care enough about it.
Yeah, I mean, this is one of those few times where the players would, majority anyway, would be on the company's side too.
You know what's more crazy about this comment? Nobody asked, and plenty of other mods are behind a paywall.
Cyberpunk 2077 VR mod has been a paywall for over 2 years.
What about all the mods Bethesda used and never gave money to the creators of said mods? even though they charged $5+ for every single bs mod for console dorks like yourself.
Or maybe it’s only reasonable to ask for people to pay for your complete overhaul mod
@@PareSM Not when you're clearly doing illegal shit by using stolen assets from the devs, but also using stolen assets from an assortment of other modders.
@@PareSMregardless of how big of an overhaul it is, paywalling/selling mods will always be shady business. As the other guy said, if you open donations and give away the mod for free (like everyone else) and make kickass content like this people WILL give you money for it. But you dont paywall it, the assets you used to build this overhaul are still not yours otherwise you essentially grab someone else's game, change some code and sell it as your own. So plaigarism. Its shady.
Asmongold is delivering Garden of eyes team to the court with this one
Honestly, with the history of Sanadsk, is about time. This is not more than the tip of a sh!tty iceberg.
@JoseViktor4099 what else did he do besides the pay walling? Thats the only thing that I know of him as of now.
@@brandonperez8133 Well, he for instance participated on a Cripto Scam, and GoE also has the "relevance" of stealing assets from another mods, such as the Seamless Coop
@@JoseViktor4099 Who's Sanadsk?
@@anonisnoone6125 The last nickname of Garden of Eyes creator. Wharever anything went wrong for him, he had a lot of nicknames and changed identities.
Only problem with this mod is it's behind a paywall and I'm pretty sure that can get you in trouble
What are you, the mod police?
Yeah charging for mods is a no no
Its illegal
Well the mod is not finished, its "early access" , full release will probably be free
@@dawe0039Doesn’t change a thing.
Bro imagine if Elden ring reached the same heights as skyrim did in terms of modding man that shit would be otherworldly.
Id pay for mods of this scale
that won't be possible if they kept using their trash engine
@@fuhkyu8146 go for it, since this is paywalled.
Well the difference is Skyrim can run on anything, and if jt can you can get the 32-bit legendary edition (the original one)
Elden ring, while great, can't run on medium low to low end rigs, which is also very understandable and reasonable
@@fuhkyu8146 the mod already costs money lol
Is GoE still breaking copyright law by charging for all the mods lol
How is that breaking copyright lol wtf
@@ZanderSabbag bc he doesn't have the rights to the assets he's selling. that's why pretty much every mod in existence is free
You can't be serious.
@@Aona_Music Is he actually selling FS assets tho? They are making stuff themselves here, and I didn't see proof they are packaging stuff from FS.
@@ZanderSabbag It's stolen assets, they've been in trouble for doing the same shit before, which is why they're now called GoE, they changed their name multiple times
Editor pls pin 😮
A reminder that Garden of Eyes is a mod thief, and that paying to use mods is an immoral practice that abuses copyright. It is not GoE's intellectual property to monetize, and puts other mods in jeopardy of being taken down as a result of his greed.
GoE has tried to hide this by changing their channel name, as they were formerly known first as Sanadsk, and even earlier as Omegafantasy, respectively. They have stolen content and bullied people off various platforms and underpaid people to make mods for him, and gaslit people when accused of wrongdoing.
As cool as GoE's stuff looks, it is not worth supporting and therefore condoning bad their behaviour, especially when it's still very much easily discoverable.
Edit: Just look up "Sanadsk Dark Souls", and you will see the guy's history unearthed.
@@aStrangerApproaches yuh but it looks fun so
@@shirouemiya737 well, you are part of the problem
Yo, that explains why Sanadsk is gone! I had no IDE!
@BIaireau sorry I just enjoy having fun, is what they are doing wrong sure I didn't deny that
IT looks fun on video's, the mod itself is meh with few incredible moments like this one, unlike Convergence mod which is awesome.
Still can’t convince me after their paywall
the mod is paywalled?
5 bucks bro
@@permad5189 which is illegal. It's against Fromsoft's TOS to resell their assets, and this mod uses Sekiro and Elden Ring assets
@@permad5189 that's 5 bucks too much
imagine paying for mods
@@permad5189 it's literally illegal though
Garden of Eyes is an incredibly unethical project that pays a team to steal content from other modders & FromSoft themselves and then redistributes / paywalls it on Patreon btw, wouldn't support the mod or the author in any capacity.
ethics are subjective
@@ryansreaction tell that to the people that the scam sites he promotes ripped off
As cool as it looks. If you got to pay for it. It is dumb, and gamers would be dumb to do so.
@@ryansreaction Everyone says that until a greedy Nintendo modders puts a dollar sign behind their program and the nintendo ninjas come knockin.
@@ryansreaction the art of missing the point of philosophy
Remember this dude is a mod thief, reuses fromsoft assets and puts a price tag on them as mods (this is illegal), and promotes rune selling.
You don’t think this mod has added more content worth paying for?
Rune selling is the saddest scam that happened to a souls game. Basically a trap for new players who don't get how these games work
@@packagecdo you know what mod thief is
@@janogabor7697I was about to say. That sounds so dumb. There’s no way anyone but old people fall for that. Or is it people who play EA games that fall for it?
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 i think there was wrestler who paid a lot of money for it. Sadly with the sudden influx of intrest scammers also came in. It's easy to think nobody falls for these, but they do
You know what's more crazy about this mod? It's paywalled.
makes me wonder if they got permission from FromSoftware. maybe they have to pay royalties or something. probably not though, it will likely be shutdown.
Meaning?
@@alessandromaccaroni8481 You have to pay money to play it
@@alessandromaccaroni8481 you have to pay for it.
@@alessandromaccaroni8481 Meaning they're actively breaking copyright by monetizing a mod to FromSoft's game. I'm not sure about the legality on if they can separately set up donations instead to avoid this, but barring the mod itself behind a paywall can get them easily sued at any point.
I don't think Asmon knows or cares, but GoE is paywalled when it shouldn't be. The mod author went by another name, Sanadsk. He's had a controversial history for stealing and plagiarizing from other mod authors and scamming his fans. He even sponsored a rune selling site on one his videos recently, that alone should tell you a lot about this person. His Garden of Eyes overhaul mod paywalled through his patreon. Since he's using copyrighted assets (including from other FromSoftware games like Bloodborne, Sekiro, Dark Souls) which is considered illegal. To how he keeps getting away with this is beyond my comprehension, maybe Bamco or FromSoftware don't know or don't care. Point is, Asmon played Archthrone's demo and that mod was FREE and will remain that way once its finished. Convergence is FREE and still getting updated with awesome boss designs. Reforged is also FREE. Sanadsk will NEVER make Garden of Eyes free, no matter what he promises. Early access doesn't equal to having a paywall. He could easily suggest to donate like most mod authors would do and that would've been fine. Honestly, if he just took down the paywall and stop trying to scam his fans, Garden of Eyes would be a decent overhaul mod to play, since he ported over assets from other games, including bosses. I do like some of his weapon changes, but I heard there are balancing issues with his mods. I'll admit one thing is that at least he puts in effort to make something cool like what's showcased in this video. That is the only positive thing I can say about Garden of Eyes.
TL;DR Convergence > Garden of Eyes
if that really bothers you, send them a link to this vid to fromsoft or whoever you want to, in twitter, etc etc you're in your right to do so (it's fine for me, don't feel bad)
after that, if ppl want to pay them... well, it doesn't matter what you say, it's not your right to tell others what they can do
@@MrPsykopeta I'm not telling people what to do. People can do whatever they want. All I'm doing is help spread awareness, and I'm not the only one who's doing that.
@@PsychoKupo I support you man, I really wish a Big youtuber talks about this garbage, instead of giving them advertisement
Then why are you wrong lol? Do you genuinely think you just know about a open illegal operation that’s months long and widely published that FS and Patreon have done nothing about?
Or do you think maybe you’re just wrong and it’s legal? Do you even know what you’re talking about or did you just repeat what you saw on a Reddit comment or something lol
@@tyco1649 That FS hasn´t done anything yet doesn´t make it magically legal.
But that is illegal, *is illegal* , and can explain you why. A mod is a derivative work of an existent IP, and according to copyright, only the owner of said IP can distribute and gain money for derivative works.
The only valid exception is that the mod is *completely* custom and doesn´t profit for an IP that isn´t their,for instance; making a complete custom horror game for a Doom mod is something that can be seen as overall, valid.
Also could be case that the owner of the IP and the modder makes an agreeiment, and for instance, they sell the mod on steam where both can gain money,.
So let me ask you:
Do you think that the mod who has an update as Malenia as a main point, and steal Fromsoft assets, and cases of other mods as well just to sell it on Patreon for a 5 buck montly service, meet any of these requirements?
Never underestimate modders, i learned this through the years and this mod once again proves it
modders are the developers who arent bound by their managers
I dunno. Looks very amateur in a lot of places and the fight itself looks like big bullshit beyond either Malenia or Radahn tiers.
I realised it when I knew that Modders are carrying Skyrim for years.
Lookup at anbennar mode for europa universalis 4. Its like its own stand alone game and setting
As someone who was browsing Nexus randomly and found a Skyrim mod that added a whole region of Tamriel that only had 100 endorsements at the time, I concur. Summerset Isle btw, if anyone's curious. Adds the homeland of high elves complete with dungeons, towns, voiced NPCs, treasures, & 180 quests. Easily as large as TES games usually are vanilla. It's got 1700 endorsements now, still tiny compared to the sheer scale of it. Not that I've played it yet.
This isnt a mod , this is the manifestation of gold diggers who dont want to create an alpha release like convergence :/ this fight is good but go check convergence , they take a little more time to create things but they work is MUCH better ! And to be honest this is one of the rare good work in they mod , they don't reuse other moveset of bosses ect ...well often .
Convergence is hardcore ass, slight recolors billed as new bosses and a hackers move set are apparently a good mod? Every single weapon or skill they added looks like a 13 year olds fanfic idea of what’s cool
Convergence is not better than this lmao comon...
@@johnway8819 yeah yeah nice argument ive seen every content in both dont need to be smart to see that even if convergence make less things ,they are way better , as for the animations , weapon or spells look but the bosses are just done better than them
So disappointed that Asmon would react to this Elden Ring mod of all things. The one with the most controversy, stolen assets from FS games and other ER modders, pay wall instead of being free and the mod owner just straight up being a dickhead.
If you want to see and appreciate the hard work of actual good modders for Elden Ring check out: Elden Ring Convergence, Graceborne, Elden Ring Reforged. All amazing mods and FREE.
Okay and wheres the lawsuit for luke ross and all of his PAID mods for games to be played in VR? It's been over 3 years....
Who cares fromsoft is done with ER, this guy uses his spare time to create something new and unique and is clearly doing it better then fromsoft. (Eldenring dlc is zogzhiit).
@Kos-mos-Cos-mos the mod looks dgsht bot
@@lowfade556 Little bro is a bit toxic, maybe see a therapist
@@Kos-mos-Cos-mos what did u just call elden ring DLC
🐵🐵🐵
After learning about the mod creator's background I'm disappointed.
@@shareen_ben convergence is free and better than this mod
how about giving some context hm
@@lowfade556From what I gathered, the creator is a known mod thief and bully who went through a few name changes.
From what you know? What do you know? He asked for context not hearsay, I keep saying people say this; what specific mods has he stolen from? Who has he bullied?
@@tyco1649the video blatantly shows fromsoft assets from elden ring and other games being used in a mod that the dev is charging money for.
You guys are giving asmon too much credit. He would never do research like that. Shout out to the comments though for letting everyone know this is paywalled copyright theft
The makers of this mod are scammers plain and simple. Most of the mod isn’t even their work. Don’t plug this garbage.
You shouldn’t be plugging this mod. The creator steals most of his work from other mods without crediting them and he puts his mods behind paywalls. No you DO NOT deserve payment for making a mod. If you want money for making something. Make your own game. Mod makers who charge money need to be put on blast.
This gets it taken down faster. There's concern trolling as much as Karen's existing on the Internet so expect an email being sent to the Fromsoft team
it’s 6 fuckin dollars man, ain’t that deep get a job
Day Z
@@Azztech865 got officially licensed.
@@Snxgurthat's his exact ducking point
Souls modders have so much fun I bet this even has voice acting this is kinda insane
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Garden of eye's mods should be taken down imo
Before the dlc came out he modded in some weapons that were part of the dlc. And put it behind a paywall. He reuses assets and puts it behind a paywall. You dont see the people behind convergence or ERR charging people for mods do you?
This dude is abusing how chill fromsoft it.
Didn't created any new game, it's just copy paste files from FromSoftware assets and classic finishing touch on this is that it is hidden behind a pay wall.
Just a thief doing immoral practices.
This thief didn't
He can't even put together the files correctly. At 9:55 he straight up ripped Ibis wing attack from AC6 but he failed to properly translate the projectiles from one game to the other so they just disappear.
This mod just shows how much more potential souls like games have.
I mean, stuff like this exists in various action games like Devil May Cry if this is the goal, where the player (especially the player) also moves like this , instead of hitting 1-2 times then rolling in the dirt...
Doesn't souls-game potential lie elsewhere? (World design, more steady-paced-but-precised fights, tho' well, the DLC already pushes that , heh).
Anyone got the torrent for this? I don’t plan to pay for a paywalled mod when financially supporting free mods is the right dynamic.
@@Alorand you can't torrent this stuff, he encodes the files and makes you install malware that checks if your subbed to his Patreon or the mods won't load and no I'm not exaggerating anything here
@@majora919 thats honestly believable from what ive been reading.
I mean it is only 5$ for a month that's really not bad even if they do steal assets I could care less personally I mean if you want high quality content it's usually paid for.
@@BLM.MASTER "even if they do bad things, i'm still willing to pay them because they put work into making high quality content" do you hear yourself? does fromsoft not make quality content? quality isn't equal to ethical or legal practices. so if someone took part of your hard work and then went and made money off of it ,you'd be fine? just cause it's "high quality"? strange mentality to have.
@@javi_fc I wouldn’t really care personally it’s cool to see people be inspired by things I make
Am I the asshole for thinking this jsut looks ok? Some of the new effects and animation are great, but the fight doesn't seem particularly well designed
No garden of eyes is a mod scammer. Support the convergence and Reforged modders
The mod maker is so bad they have to use god mode to showcase the fight.
No you’re not. It looks alright at best
nah you aint wrong thats just the mod. Comparing it to others, this is very overrated.
No, you dont. This have the 1:1 issues of Pre-nerf Radahn, the only good thing about this fight is the custcene and the music. Visual clutter , very easy to recognice Sekiro copypasted moveset, which results on an overtuned one which makes the posture break basically impossible, because surprise surprise, *despite what people says, Elden Ring bosses acts like Elden Ring bosses, not Sekiros*
When you throw money at a problem.
The problem: NEED MORE BOSS!
8:10 that’s literally an isshin phase 2 attack
No is the true monk from the same game
@@Sumi_S Yeah it's the corrupted monk, Isshin's attack is way quicker and he doesn't leap backwards.
arent there some big scandals around the garden of eyes mod?
Yes
very so. major controversies about the author throughout the years in the Souls game modding scene
That's cancel culture, don't let the libs win
the coffin of Miquella and Malenia
hol up-
MALENIA! LET ME BE THE ANDY OF YOUR LEYLEY AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
paying for mods is peak tardation , and from what I'm seeing in the comment section the modder has quite the shitty reputation lol
Looking her doing martial arts make me chuckle lil bit 😂
Isn't this mod paywalled
Also accused of stealing assets from several other modders without permissions from mods that are actually good?
Actual 🤡
Okay and wheres the lawsuit for luke ross and all of his PAID mods for games to be played in VR? It's been over 3 years....
Imagine using an emoji when you're over the age of 18
Hey it says you play any games youre asked, you should go play in traffic with a blindfold on
@@gomiggangbro is in his feelings
@@gomiggang emojis are a big no no but heart emoticons YAAAAS
make it make sense bruh
@@Mr.Cheesecube He's also copy pasting the same comment on other threads. Dudes running defense for scumbags.
Hand to hand combat looks goofy af and doesn't fit her at all imo
I like how you can beak her sword, and that's when she goes hand-to-hand. Cool idea.
Jetstream Sam from MGR Revengenace fights even harder if you take his sword away
I'm sure Blue Dancer had some moves back in the day, he was her Master after all.
Wait you can take his sword? How?@@SpecShadow
@909mcronald i haven't played it myself but im pretty sure it just happens normally
I paid for the DLC once, not paying again for asset flips
Exactly what i think after i see a new Elden Ring mod😂 11:29
I saw clips of the fight earlier but didnt realize they also added cinematics to it too!
it does make a lot more sense. and it's cool how it's in reverse of the original malenia fight. she starts off as her "goddess of rot" form, but becomes her true self again once miquela "heals" her.
another thing to note, in that second phase, notice how much agile she is than when we fight her in the vanilla base game. i imagine this is what she was probably like before the rot overtook her.
Everything down to the armor set is tacky af. Unalloyed malenia works bc its using minimal artistic input from the "modders"
@6:22 Super Saiyan Malenia looks pretty dope.
Garden Of Leechs
9:58 One of the subtlest touches to the mod is that Miquella appears at the gate and casts some of the spells that Melania uses for attacks.
If Asmongold and his TH-cam team have any respect for the Elden Ring community, they will seriously consider taking this video down. They are unknowingly (hopefully at least) supporting a known mod scammer that is stealing and paywalling mods and bringing attention to it in ways that do NOT benefit gamers (either the scammer gets paid or bandai takes action against all mods for ER).
For a mod that has been under “development” since the launch of the game, you’d think they’d finish what they have in the base game first before starting anything in the dlc. Wait until people see that this mod will never finish just like their mod they took a huge part of in DS3, COTA.
this is not a mod this is a scam. common Garden of scam L
9:08 and this cross slash is from god of war ragnarok, Alva the light elf boss from alfheim. This mod took so many attacks from so many different games and managed to combine it into one cool boss. Love it
Guys, what is the name of the music at 6:47?
Its its own custom mod music, just look up Malenia Consort of Miquella ost and youll find it.
2:04 nightjar ninja from sekiro right there
wait malenia...consort of miquella....SWEEET HOME ALABAMMMAAAAA
Radahn is also Miquella's brother btw (both sons of Radagon). So does Mogh. (both sons of Marika). Also remember that Radagon is Marika. Looks like the whole Lands Between is somewhere in Alabama)
@@ЮрийОлейник-ы6н The lands between..... north and south Alabama
The modding scene in Elden Ring is one of the craziest I've had to witness. I've tried so many mods for this game and they're extremely impressive. Especially boss modifying mods or mods that add entirely new bosses to the game. It's insane how passionate these people are to making this game feel fresh again or just making goofy mods to have fun in the game like One Piece collection mods.
Ah yes, peak boss design. Weird jerky movement, unreactable attacks, visual clutter on screen so you can’t see anything. That’s how indie soulslike bosses look when devs don’t know wtf they’re doing.
A guy walks into a bar and asks for 1.4 root beers.
The bartender says "I'll have to charge you extra, that's a root beer float".
The guy says "In that case, better make it a double."
Mommy Malenia
Rotussy
@@Slaveofallah1899 not anymore, now it holussy!!
@@escanor3787 must feel DIVINE
First phase does not give me Consort vibes at all, more like a demonic resurrection as Miquellas last resort to stop the Tarnished. So it makes 0 sense to me when phase transitions.
ruined the artistic aspect of both malenia and her signature fighting stile as flowing waters, radahn was always the strongest demi god so malenia as the promissed consort makes no sense, the move sets doesnt look like a god, looks like a weird monster which takes off the feeling that you are fighting against a legend, and the choice of radahn as the promissed consort had some weird feeling about it because it was gay and he was his brother, not talking about the contrast of miquelas age and radahn interests once radahn would never want a age of peace since he had passion for war, showing us his age was not all that good, if someone hired that dude for their company they would have major issues once he doesnt understand the directors vision not by a single bit.
3:54 Low HP in Gam >> drink booster in real life >> in game HP recovers
Don't get me wrong this is amazing and looks cool as fuck but it doesn't look as hard as either Melania or PC Radahn
There should be a huge holy-scarlet bloom at 20% of phase 2, just for show
Let me solo her: our battle will be legendary.
This boss has everything... Exept an interesting moveset... And original assets... And being free...
Yes please get some more eyes on this mod so it gets legally reprimanded for their rarted paywall
The blade of miquella should not be fighting without one.
What is she now? The fist of miquella?
Isn't she the blade not the sword itself?
Looks good. Too bad this is behind a paywall. This is why the Convergence team will forever be the best souls modders
Im honestly most impressed about the music. They managed to mix together all the memorable parts of Mohg's and Malenia's themes as well as the parts of PCR's theme that are clearly meant to represent Miquella and made it sound good despite the fundamentally different tones. It gets a little stale in the 2nd phase and while a nice touch, the intro during the cutscene doesnt fit a 100% to the cutscene and the continuation, but overall it gets very close to the level of the default PCR music.
Unpopular opinion, but man, do I hate these mods. Their just too gawdy, the over the top anime moves give me a headache and often times just don't work mechanically.
I mean, it's fine, its a mod, no one is forcing me to play it, but the more popular these become, the more Fromsoft will start copying them. And in the ER dlc I definitely felt like Fromsoft was trying to replicate these types of mods. It wasn't bad, I can handle a few obnoxious anime weapons and one screen blinding boss, but I just fear that it's going to eventually become the norm.
Wait until you hear that the mod creator has rebranded himself 3 times due to stealing other modders' works, ripping assets from other games and then charging money for access.
same thought i had honestly the dlc's was pushing it and i think its a experimental move.
but these mods are too spectacle extravaganza that you can't even enjoy the game. looks like a circus show or some sort
I don't mind these types of mods, at least just from viewing (not sure how truly balanced it actually is). As long as fromsoft doesn't take notes from these, luckily I think elden ring dlc is the most insane bosses will get. At least spectacle wise
Yeah, this Boss has Sekiro moveset that isn't the ideal on a Game about posture breaks.
Maybe you want to try DS Archthrones, now thats is a *cool mod*
Mechanically it's an amazing mod. The cutscenes, new move animations and flow of battle are all awesome. It doesn't make any sense with the established lore though.
Malenia is an Empyrean, which means she is just as eligible as her brother Miquella and half sister Ranni to become a God. She's not just a powerful Demigod to be picked as a Consort. She is already under the influence of the Outer God of Rot.
On top of that, this mod's lore is pushing the incest over the Lannister cliff by having Malenia become her twin brother's Consort.
Other than those issues and the fact that this mod is monetized I loved both phases of the fight and the art design for Malenia.
It's infact just a mod and a paid one at that so f**k em.
Let Me Solo Her: FINALLY OUR BATTLE SHALL BE LEGENDARY
a missed opportunity to make the boss godwyn
Yeah not even looking at morality of buying that mod and all that stuff, the mod simply doesn't match my taste, it's to extra for me.
man.. so many sekiro's bosses moves in this.. its just a compilation of sekiro's boss move jumbled together and make this, using a reskin malenia to sell the mod on top of that
I know there was a lot of work put into this , but to me it kinda looks tasteless for a boss to be such an amalgamation of different weapons/attacks/move sets (most of which belong to other bosses from the game). Kinda lacks style . I'm curious if so many people would have liked it if it was made by a professional studio 🤔
The only thing bro did is make a custom theme (tbh this is the only good part), edited the model with fromesoft assets, added moves from other souls games and people really glaze him for this? Like isn't it the standard? Like even without the fact that its illegal to sell copyrighted assets (they get away becouse they say its "early acess" but their other mods are still paywalled) the boss looks kinda unfun.
But Malenia being Miquella's twin and consort at the same time? Sweet home Alabama
Radan and Mogh are his brothers. So not much different really.
@@ghostoffantomyeah but they’re also twins
@@jaahman0098twincest vs gaycest. U decide the worst wincest. Lmao
@@psychopassisamasterpiece1997 I’m not going to decide but word on the playground is twincest is slightly worst
@@ghostoffantom I didn't know, I don't play Elden Ring and not much into lore either.
Phase 2 really had Malenia busting out Isshin's moveset, high monk, and Youmu's danmaku attacks from the fighting games.
*I wonder how much stolen content is in this mod?*
You can get this mod at kemono, mods should NOT be charged for. Also this modder has a reputation for *stealing* content from other mod authors who do things for free, as it should be.
Garden of Eyes has been at it for a long time, dissecting and splicing assets in Fromsoft titles. They've so many hours you can burn in videos of them pitting bosses against one another in monster fight compilations. Like Malenia vs bosses, Isshin vs bosses, Orphan of Kos vs bosses, etc.
Imagine pay walling a friggin' mod. Call me whatever you like but I hope they see repercussions for doing that. We all deal with enough corporate greed in our daily lives as is, I ain't tryna get milked dry by the community either.
Edit: It's an entirely different story if the mod were free but they had a link to a p*treon or whatever because then any love and support for the mod could optionally go towards financially supporting them but they'd rather get greedy with it.
Why should their efforts be free to you? Their time is as equally valuable as the creators of Elden Ring's time.
@@IgnoreMeImWrong Which is why if you keep reading my comment you'd see that it would be totally cool if they pursued financial gain through an optional means instead. Modding is and has always been a community driven thing, for the love and passion of the game. Everyone's time is valuable and should be respected but taking someone else's work and trying to repackage it to sell it is just lame. That's exactly what that mod is, taking FS's assets and paywalling what they've recreated with them. I call that scum behavior. I'm all for supporting modders because they do it for free but I'm under the impression they do it for the passion and love of the game with making money being secondary, hence why it's way easier of a pill to swallow if it's not mandatory. It's a mod bro, not the original product.
@@IgnoreMeImWrong The paywall is illegal, the mod is ass, and the creator is a terrible person who has done countless fraudulent things. I ripped the files to play it.
@@SuntanAlbino I read all of your comment but the main point you make is that it should be free, which is why I chose to address that point.
@@broccolin So, you stole content based on the paywalling being illegal?
those are the shinobi's enemy movesets from sekiro (edit after whtching more: that a whole sekiro boss mixed with shinobi movesets)
Unfortunate it's a mod you got to pay for. I'll admit it's a cool fight, but I'll stick to Convergence if I want to play with mods.
Crazy thing is we may well get another DLC, and for most games the modding community doesn't even really get started until they know all the DLC is out.
Saw this a few days ago, It's insane how much of a better boss this would have been
Na, this is way worse than radahn. Constant blood loss, and she heals on each hit.
Fr, way better
@@shirouemiya737 check your eyes
@@bonk9614 I mean lore wise. I hated the Radhan Consort thing. Doesn't make sense.
@@ProjectOrionGamingit kinda does seeing how much miqulela (whatever his name is) liked radahn and radahn was also the strongest demigod
It's impressive, but I wonder why people would spend so much effort and time working on copyrighted material. And trying to sell it. At this point the dude who made this is just hoping From never actually bothers to take it down.
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
A lot😂😂😂😂
This comment 😂😂😂
the fight is like so lore accurate too. shes using the martial arts because of her shaman lineage. insane
Keep in mind, as cool as this is, you have to pay to access the mod. So not worth it imo
That's shit was insaaaaaaaane, phase 1 was nice but that phase 2 was absolute cinema. She uses The eurporia spec, the martial arts, she blocks and parries you, the effects and the armor on her looks beautiful, maaaaaaaan, loved it.
Oh the mod thief is back. I wonder who posted that on Asmongold reddit.... free advertisement I guess. Hopefully the increased eyes (heh) on it means it's more likely they will finally be taken down.
“The holy Valkyrie” is so badass
oh it's a paywalled mod
Looks great, but no ...just no
Elden ring DLC came out in June, meaning this person(s) made this mod SOMEHOW in under 3 months, actually goated
This mod is more intense than the whole concord game. 😂
I want an Elden Ring mod that combines the base game's map and the DLC's map together to make one seamless giant land again.
Don't really see whats so special about this. Modders have been doing this for ages.
Asmong and the average twitch chatter / youtube commenter are sadly pretty impressionable folk
It's just that this mod has better marketing and the majority of people eat it up when there are better mods out there.
crazy what modders can do this mod is amazing
That rubicon red
Much better mod than the first Radahn one. That one you couldn't realistically beat him due to him blinking around faster than you can swing. This one looks actually playable.
Looks way better than the Radahn fight!
No
Idk about that one…
Being able to run up to the gate before the battle starts makes it feel so much more epic. I hate how the fight starts immediately upon entering the fog wall. Honestly, fromsoft dropped the ball colossally with Shadow of the Erdtree. This is the first time someone has made a mod to replace the final boss, & it’s blown up because it’s so good it’s better than the actual one. If not in terms of story, definitely in terms of presentation
The pc modding community is literally undefeted
How is that the edited version?
@@absoluteaficionado515 ??
Armored Cored 6 = Most anime fights in anything