Just to say, the editing in this isn't my finest work. I wanted to put in more emphasis on the content rather than the editing. Thank you for watching.
My word. THANK YOU for really giving context as to why certain portions of this is PERTINENT to this situation and others that are ab*sive. It’s unreal to me how so many still ask “why didn’t they just leave?!” In a way that is so incredibly offended AND offensive, even though it’s been over explained for years! I’m not sure if it’s because those people have never experienced it, or if they have and are just used to it, or if they really are that lacking empathy and cold. Either way, it’s definitely something that needs to be refrained from stating since it’s been shown to be really unacceptable.
Just btw she does say she slapped Alex. (b4 he hit her) she said that he was screaming ather, had her bkd into a corner, and slapped him. she did explain and showed msgd, detailing the slap. plus it showed the date to be before she said he hit her. not on his side. just letting u kno as you said you couldnt find it. its there.
There is ZERO possible context that would ever make imallexx’s behaviour toward Alice okay. To talk to another human being like that in general is abhorrent enough but to speak to your partner in that way, a person you are supposed to love is unbelievable
The only excuse would be if she was just as abusive back but that’s obviously not how the situation was or else Alex would’ve came out with a response already… Alex is scum I’m so glad his true colours have been brought to light he’s always been problematic aswell
@Whiteytherat13 if she was as abusive back? So it would be OK for him to treat her like that if she reacted so much to the abuse, she was just as bad?
Not only that but everyone who used to be associated with him (Memeulous, Willne etc) has gone public to say they want nothing to do with him and are not tied to him in any way. These people used to be his friends and they knew him in real life and some of them even lived with him previously. Anyone defending him is stupid to think they know better than all the people speaking out about him, considering "fans" don't even know him, just by what he uploads.
Alex showed his side, his true side, in every message and with every vile word he spoke to someone he was supposed to love and support. Why should we give him the chance to try to lie and minimize his very hurtful actions? There’s no good reason for it.
@@ayana_0150 I was watching another video on this topic by a male TH-camr who kept holding a candle of doubt for Alex. A constant reminder that "we need to hear all sides of the story". Needless to say, I was appalled.
Its coming from people who are so unwilling to hear it as the truth that they believe that he couldn’t have behaved this way “without provocation”. People act like they see a few videos of a person that they know their true nature, forgetting that countless celebs have been outed as horrendous human beings who were believed to be kind human beings.
the fact Alice literally has an EIGHTY TWO page document with evidence and explanations of her time with Alex and people STILL try and defend hmm and claim she's lying is honestly disgusting and no amount of explanations, apologies and crocodile tears from Alex will excuse his behaviour or make it better. i really hope Alice has a strong support system and can recover, she deserves nothing but the best.
I’m gonna be honest, I’ve literally not seen a single person defend Alex for what he has done. I do hope Alice recovers from this though & I’m glad that she is getting a massive amount of support.
While I haven’t seen anyone who is a content creator defend him, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of his fans are defending him. We can see how viciously stupid and blind people can be, willingly ignoring what’s right in front of them in black and white because the truth is more uncomfortable than acknowledging that someone they potentially looked up to is actually a horrible person.
After watching the screen recordings of HIM actively berating the shit out of her my entire image of him is absolutely destroyed. Of course before I even opened the doc I was in a bit of denial but after I recognised the verbal and physical abuse that my mother's ex put us through there was absolutely no going back. I'm actually horrified. my jaw is still open after scrolling past hundreds. and hundreds. and hundreds of examples of his abuse.
Fucking exactly man. I actually unsubbed to him because he was turning in to a SJW. Now all of that was just an act, so he cant even show anyone his real side. Cant even be real with himself, embarrassing
Actually gutted. Watched that man to get me through a period where I myself was getting out of an abusive relationship. Literally couldn't feel more sick reading that Google doc, my strength, love and kindness is being sent to Alice every day.
Its so strange that when elphabas mum maria told alex to do what robin williams did he made an entire video criticising her whilst he was telling his own gf to do the same thing
Hmm.. 🤔 I think they went to the same charm school 😒 actually when you think about it,the same narcissistic personalities glow the words..."I'm the only one who can behave this badly" that's why Alex abhorred these other vile humans ...IMO 🤨
No joke I think all those videos just came off as obsessive and just feeding into the attention elhpaba wanted which is probably due to her mental health. When it comes to ppl that do so much for attention and also speaking about the struggle she faces when it comes to certain things she needs a therapist, she needs help bc that is not what someone who is okay do
that is really strange... i mean why would that person's mom tell them to pursue standup comedy and appear in the board game film "jumanji"? just doesn't add up
Honestly when people say "why didn't you leave?" My mum knows me better than anyone but she had absolutely no idea what I was going through because I hid it so well. I don't even recognise the person I was back then 💔
Exactly. I had to be incredibly sneaky when I tried to leave because i was legit afraid for my life and my pet’s life. (we’re safe and doing good but god that is such a bleak memory)
Coming from you, Kati, an individual who’s endured an abusive partner in the past, I appreciate you taking the time to make a video on this. Your take on this video is very empathetic and considerate for Alice’s sake. Alex was a fairly big commentary TH-camr so it makes sense why she was scared to come forward about this. The evidence of Alex’s actions are not only screenshotted but also video recorded - Alice deserves nothing but support! I used to watch Alex a lot and fairly enjoyed his content so it infuriates me when I see people who also watched him and defend him despite not looking at any of the 82 page document simply because he’s their “comfort” content creator! Commentary TH-camrs like you, Jake Baz, George (Memeulous), Fraiser (iNabber) are honestly my favs because you guys do remind your viewers that at the end of the day we don’t know you guys personally - internet personas often are completely different whether it’s an enhanced version of themselves of a complete 180 or their character. You’re truly a gem Kati; nuanced, raw, and to the point without being afraid to voice your opinion. You’re unapologetically you ❤❤
I'm wondering how Fraser is going to respond to this. I hope he didn't know any of this previously and that it doesn't reflect negatively on him. This situation is absolutely disgusting and awful, I've been there and I didn't speak up. I feel so bad for Alice and any other fellow DA/SA victim.
This coming out and the impact on his career and community helped me realize i need to leave my abusive relationship my partner talks to me like this and treats me like this and i just kind of thought well that’s just who he is i know it’s not okay but its been 3.5 years and i have been desensitized until i saw this. Im happy for Alice to be rid of this boy and look forward to being free too
i hope you can find the courage to leave, it’s a really hard thing to go through but as cliche as it sounds you come out the other side so much better eventually 🖤
good for you, you deserve better, never accept that shit! why make do with a scumbag when you could have someone that will treat you right? it's gonna be okay
Sending you so much love and strength 🤍 you deserve the absolute best and I promise life will give you that when you put yourself first 🤍 be safe and take care! You deserve the world 🌎 🫶🏻
The creepiest part is that he continuously checks himself on the camera/playback screen like he can't stop looking at himself, even when he's spouting absolutely horrible vitriol. What a narcissist.
trauma bond is so hard to understand if you haven't experienced it. you feel your only value lies with your abuser and if you leave you are nothing. thanks for speaking on this and bringing awareness for other survivors.
Also they make you feel like you are the only person in the world that can make them be ok. You start to feel like you are lucky they love you so much they can’t live without you. You must help them. It’s the worst and I was older when it first happened to me and took me 16 yrs to get out of it. Now I’m alone for the last 4 years and couldn’t be happier.
this, i always thought id never put up with any disrespect/abuse from a partner, but when youre in that vulnerable position, the manipulation and insecurity make it impossible to think clearly. im still baffled at everything i excused away as being deserved or “not that bad”, truly terrifying position to be in
That is terrible what he said. As someone who struggles with panic attacks, generalized anxiety, extreme depression, bipolar, social anxiety, ptsd, and suicidal ideation, I could NEVER tell someone to kill themself. That’s just evil. I feel so bad for this girl.
Thank you young lady, for pointing out reactive abuse and how abusers will try to act like the bigger person by saying that they've moved on while you have not. That helped contextualize the abuse I experienced in the last year. Thank you for that.
I understand that making this was probably really difficult and possibly triggering for you but thank you for making it and helping Alice’s situation be heard, It’s a tough subject when you’ve had your own experience 🖤
@@eddlovesskiing ok well thanks I mean you’re correct I don’t know the situation, I’m only aware of what she’s said about it and I am just being empathetic as someone who has dealt with grooming and abuse. Sorry for trying to be a nice person? you know you can just ignore comments right? Christ get a grip.
(TW similar to the video) I was in an abusive relationship in high school and I literally dont know why I didn't dump him the first time he called me an ugly whore or hit me. It's not that simple. Yes, I swung back defending myself and left bite marks on his hands. It's not that simple. I was 17 years old and he was my first boyfriend. Of course I thought I was ugly and undesirable. Court or public opinion, is not that simple. Everyone called me a dumb crybaby liar, and court said "well, he's young and we don't want this on his record". It is literally so nice to see someone else saying that it's just not that simple.
this is probably one of the better videos ive seen covered on this topic, a lot of people don’t seem very sympathetic towards alice and just view it as new content to cover instead of something traumatic that has happened to someone so thank you for putting in the time into making this video ❤️❤️
Not to steer away from the topic but this has been the best video since the news was released. There is no better person to talk about the gravity of the situation! Kat, you've delved deep, brought up important points and with everything you've put across, I find myself agreeing to everything you had to say regarding this tragedy. I see you as a massive advocate for helping those who may be suffering and/or have suffered from dv, so in saying that; what you have done with this is mighty admirable. It goes to show the bravery you and Alice possesse when being able to speak out about such sensitive situations, both of you will have many people on your side, including me. Thank you for continuing to spread awareness, I pray many more people see this, knowing they are not alone. ❤
Yes, you are absolutely right. I am so glad that it was not showcased as some kind of internet drama and more as a serious topic, as it rightfully should be.
Im genuinely gutted, and horrified by Alex. As someone from the Uk, the first video i saw on this was by an American, and before he showed any evidence i was hoping that it was just British bants taken out of context, but holy moly. Very mistaken. I feel so bad for Alice, and as someone that has survived d0mestic @buse, i really hope she has a good support network and gets through this ending up as a victor and not a victim, She is so strong for coming out with this
Victim shaming is still a very prominent thing in today's society, and I would say very common all throughout history. Even by people who should be there to support and help us. It's something I think most of us have gone through at some point. Thank you for talking about this, and also being so accurate as to what you can and can not support with fact.
i could agree with that, but a blured line is there as people who are critical or skeptical are usually seen as victim blaming. because people are crazy.
@Choosetoone @Choosetoone It's totally understandable to be skeptical without evidence, that's why I said I appreciate the accuracy as to what you can and can't support with fact, because it's important to base things off fact. Although when there is clearly enough to support her side, like the way he is clearly treating her in live streams and texts, and everyone is still saying "oh what did she do?" I would call that victim blaming. There's not enough yet to support his side, as he wants to stay quiet and for her to stay quiet. It seems like he could clear things up pretty easily. What I said is a fact about victim shaming, regardless of whether there are certain situations where people have lied. That part shouldn't matter, if you are basing it off of evidence. Also everything should be thoroughly looked into based on a case to case circumstance. I would say it's pretty clear when someone is just making up claims, and usually they have something to gain in those situations.
@@LoveIsVitalEverlasting sure, I agree. Just putting what I said out there. Nothing he brings forward will show him to be innocent I don't believe. It would just make her on his level possibly. So it's either he is bad or he and her are bad. I mean from what I know about her. I already don't like or trust her based on the slazo thing.
Also generalizing people as crazy may be part of the problem. I would rather take it seriously, giving them the benefit of the doubt rather than be skeptical first and foremost. If it is true, wouldn't you rather believe them until it's proven otherwise? Unless it seems like they're clearly blowing smoke up your ass, I think it's better to take them seriously in case there is abuse. Especially since if the person being accused can easily disprove it.
@Choosetoone I understand that. I am not aware of her content, only his honestly. In that way, I am not fully aware of the other side of the situation.
You've just earned yourself a new subscriber. This is genuinely the best commentary video I've ever seen. You addressed something so vile in a professional and objective manner, and were so clear when you were talking about the facts, your opinions, and your own experiences. Very very good video, the best video I've seen discussing this incident. Hats off to you, especially because you mention you've been through similar experiences. That in itself is immensely brave, and you should be very proud. :)
from what i remember, the context of alice hitting alex was because he threatened to cause harm to her cat. can't remember where i saw this though - i think it was in rachel oates' video on the situation
Apparently she didn't hit him then but pushed him off her when he "joked" about breaking her cat's neck. She also admitted to slapping him once, due to him being in her face and being abusive. She's been very open about that and explained that it was reactive abuse. There's only so much someone can take before they snap back. I really feel for her.
Thank you for talking about this, you are the only logical person i am able to sit watch and agree with every single word you have said, others dont make any sort of comment or make comments i dont agree with at all that make me mad. Thank you again for speaking up on this topic, your my favourite commitary youtuber.
I am black and disappointed by Alice's language but remember that there's no perfect victim and two things can be recognized at once for those trying to discredit her.
@@killing.killian soea not matter, you need both sides. at this point we know he is bad but is she also? won't help him but will take her with him assuming she is the same. you never know.
I've learned in these situations not to immediately side with someone but if a video comes up of someone swinging a knife and saying unlawful things and threatening someone you wouldn't stay fully unbiased and ask for context. Your mind would most likely think that they're a psycho. However, also something I've noticed is that people are dogshitting on Alex (not my issue) but not for the right reason. I've seen multiple people just go "Oh I've never liked him for no reason and now I have a reason to" or they talk about the "Slazo incident" (never knew abt the Slazo incident until recently but I've seen some people give more of a fuck abt Slazo than Alice) and everyone is quick to just throw down with the abuser but not console the victim. Right now the main concern should be just supporting Alice at this time, as well as ridiculing Alex but mainly supporting Alice. Now don't think this is defending Alex, I fucking hate him for what he did, but I feel like some people are just anti Alex for not the wrong reasons but more personal ones.
I do mention the Slazo situation. Not because I care more about him than Alice, but as someone who was around when that situation happened in 2019, it was super infuriating how Alex continued to have a platform after ruining another man’s life. It gave him the ability to ruin more lives after that (and even prior with KingAni.) the bottom line is that I’m finally glad Alex is getting what’s coming to him after being undeservedly forgiven from Slazo’s situation, but I’m also incredibly furious for Alice. My two cents are essentially that Alex is a fucking jackass and should have been deplatformed since day one.
Wow I'm aghast that some people are reading through those earlier texts and think they're irrelevant when he's literally telling her he hates her, calling her obscenities, even using slurs. It's wild those are only the 'tamer' parts of the document
To touch on "why wouldn't someone just leave a relationship like that" I have another example of being trapped. I was in an abusive relationship and he manipulated me so hard he genuienly made me believe that no one else could love me and the sad truth for me was that I'd rather be in emotional agony 24/7 than be alone for the rest of my life. I didn't share it to take away from Alice's horrible situation or to get pity as I've healed from that trauma at this point, but to give another view to people who might not understand that severity that you can't just leave at all times
Thank you for speaking out on this. I've seen a lot of people who have said things like "well what did she do?" I've been with my husband for a very long time. Even in anger we have never said similar things to each other like Alex said in those videos. Nothing justifies those things.
@@kinghanaa1157 no because that’s so real if it’s true and im like 99% sure it is I don’t think I’ll watch him ever and I’ve been a fan since 2016 just hope Alice is okay
@@nicoleclarkxx ive been watching him since not too long after you, this proof is just absolutely crazy i hope alice is doing better, and didnt he have another girlfriend?? i hope shes okay too
Best video on TH-cam addressing the situation. Very educational and informative as well as addressing Alice’s experiences alongside the subject of domestic violence itself. Thank you so much. ❤
Will definitely donate on payday, cause this is vile no man or woman should go through this. I’ve personally gone through it and it can break a person and hope she’s gonna be okay
I really appreciate you speaking out and highlighting this. I think a lot of people forget about that "trauma bond" situation as well, so I really appreciate you touching on it. I had it in a relationship before where despite the insults hurled at me, I thought "oh they're having a bad day. I'm just not helping that. it's okay." in my head because I genuinely cared about that person. You don't realise it until you're far away from it all.
my heart goes to alice. and kati, you have experienced abusive relationships so i think you giving your insight on it is only helpful for other girls. please be a girls girl and make a video guide to realize you are getting involved w an abuser, how to cope and how to escape. bc as a woman im also exposed to that probability. and im sure so many otther girls would need to hear that. much lov, hope justice is served and stay strong alice
As someone who survived an abusive relationship with someone that had an “innocent” outward appearance I’m glad she got out. Mine turned from verbal to physical to r**e and in the end attempted murder
I understand making this was probably extremely difficult for you and i’m super proud you were able to do it. Thank you for educating and being a good person and we love you ❤️
Honestly, this is the best, most concise, honest and, IMO fair video I've seen on this situation. Really appreciate you doing such an amazing job, putting the work & heart into it, thank you.
I’m so proud of Alice to not be scared anymore and be brave and talk about Alex. Alex has always been sketchy from Slazo situation. He’s absolutely vile. Alice is such an amazing woman, not to mention but all the other women who came out too.❤️ Thanks for making a video on this Kati, you’re such a good person and empathic.✨ I can relate to many others with reactive abuse, with a family member that I’ve experienced reactive abuse with, and honestly it makes the victim just feel horrible and it’s a vile thing. To everyone who’s experienced it, I hope you all are doing well and okay.
thank you truly for covering this i try to understand the fear and the absolute pain that revolves in an abusive relationship the physical, emotional and mental abuse, just wanting a sigh of relief to make it stop and just go away from it it's a heavy and sensitive subject
Thank you for explaining how my abuse was. I have never had someone properly explain this. Its been 8 years and I still questioned why I stayed. Now I dont. Thank you for such concise coverage on this topic.
I followed Alex around the sametime as you so Alex's previous stuff wasn't known to me, having said that, reading those texts and seeing the video call made me feel disgusted.. if it can make an onlooker feel that way, it must feel 100x worse for Alice. glad she got away and hope she stays away. I did notice a pattern of Alex always calling her dumb and losing the plot whenever Alice didn't understand something. my dad used to treat me that way [sometimes my mum too] so reading that almost brought me back to those moments. it is a soul crushing feeling knowing the people you love consider you to be dumb as heck. not to mention the language he called you know wh*re etc no excuse for it. none at all. you can hear Alice in the background when Alex is losing it, she's crushed by his words. To be honest having less 500k doesn't make you an internet celebrity lol delusion of grandeur much. I usually like to hear both sides but in this case Alice has provided enough evidence that there is no doubt that he has done and said those things. as i said no excuse for any of it. if you have been abused and you snap and shout back then in my mind its justified. in my mind its a form of self defence but that's just an opinion of a randomer on the internet. thanks for the video. hope Alice is ok.
the way he talks to her is so chilling it’s like he’s a completely different person than what he shows on his channel… i always kinda felt something off but this is another level. my heart goes out to alice and anyone else struggling with an abusive man, you’re not alone ❤
Girl i was waiting for you to do this. I remember commenting on a vid of yours not long ago sticking up for alex with elphaba. Im so glad you posted your opinion
I loved Alex so much, truly thought he was a good creator. I'm devastated that a channel i relied on turned out to be part of the problem. Thank you for covering this
yeahh same i used to watch his videos every now and then a while ago, all that matters now is that the truth has come out and the bastard got what was coming to him
Yess I’m so glad you are speaking out about this and boosting the support for Alice not enough people are unsubscribing from him fast enough he is one nasty human being I am disgusted I ever supported him and i am embarrassed for the people who are still subbed this situation needs to be heard by everyone and no one should be supporting someone who does not under any circumstances deserve a platform x
Thankyou kati for sharing your thoughts.. "reactive abuse" is something that I,as yourself, can relate to.its not a widely used term and only in the aftermath this was discussed. NOBODY should live like that and especially when it's,as you say,another who preaches about how damaging both mental and physical abuse is.but that's what I call the" I'm quite a nice person" syndrome. I've been forced to be strong mentally due to life experience in many areas,but it breaks my heart to see such vulnerable people being treated in such a manner. However,im also wanting to give recognition that Alice has been so brave to come forward.people may say that it may not the way to do this ,BUT what some people don't realise is ..ITS PROBABLY THE SAFEST WAY for a vulnerable young human like Alice to come forward and make others aware of something so awful has happened to her,{this just wasn't an option in my day} .. there are many who just can't see the way forward so let's hope that Alice' brave actions has given at least one more person the courage to come forward and save themselves...thanks again kati,and I'm so sorry that Alex elmslie has turned out to be a jekyll and Hyde..💜🖤💜
I love that you, as a woman and also a U.K TH-camr have spoken up about this. I loved Alex, I loved his content but hearing the audios and hearing Alice constantly say "go away. Go away" and him not listening. Him threatening to bash her head in with a brick it is deeply unsettling. But you have made it very clear and confirmed what I'm sure a lot of women are thinking/have experienced. Thank you♡
I always hate it when a victim speaks out about abuse and instead of being supportive and sympathetic, the internet tries to play detective and figure out who the abuser is. Like let the victim name them in their own time. It's the whole shelby situation, the baby reindeer situation and this one too. It's just unhelpful and shifts the attention away from the people who were actually harmed.
@@Honesttoyouif the person doesn’t name the abuser then there’s no harm for the latter, so whether it’s a lie or not it doesn’t matter, there’s no consequences for either sides. the person is just telling about the experience without any slight details so there’s no need for internet to try find out who it’s about.
Alice was super brave for speaking out. I was in an abusive relationship earlier this year- it wasn’t until i went on a vacation and had time away that i realized he was so emotionally abusive. I couldn’t even watch something i wanted on TH-cam with him so when i was able to choose what food i wanted to eat, videos to watch, etc (basically being able to choose things for myself to watch) i realized how wonderful it was to be with myself. I wasn’t constantly having to tip toe around emotions like it was broken glass. My opinions made me happy and i was safe to share them with my sister, which was never okay with him. I always had to predict how he felt about a topic, adapt to the circumstance and change how i felt about whatever i was talking about to make him feel better. Hearing about all this has no doubt brought up a bunch of feelings but im so incredibly proud of Alice for speaking up. She came through with receipts and i hope she stays safe
I always thought "why don't you just leave" until I was in an abusive relationship myself. I will never judge anyone for staying in an abusive relationship ever again.
I had to pause and take a break after 16:20. My heart was racing seeing his aggression and the violence in those gestures and words. I cannot imagine being the subject of that, let alone it coming from a loved one. This is heartbreaking, my heart goes out to Alice. :(
My mum just got out of an emotionally abusive relationship. She's completely traumatised but is luckily being supported by a women's charity. Alex reminds me of her partner. I assume Alex is in his 20s, it's weird that someone of his age uses the same tactics that my mum's 60 year old partner did. My mum made some bad decisions as a result of the mental abuse and did some questionable things...so I don't think anything Alex can come out with against Alice will "justify" his behaviour. Mental abuse strips you of any security and I imagine I'd do some odd things in that state too.
This video has definitely been the best one to come out in regard to HIM and his abusive behavior, all the others have just been waiting for a reason to shit on him, you’ve actually covered what really matters here
19:00 Alice explained somewhere that he had cornered her, screaming in her face calling her all the same stuff he does, she started crying and he laughed at her for crying, and she slapped it round the face grabbed her stuff and left his flat
Coming from a survivor this is such an important thing to talk about and bring awareness to, especially the reactive abuse. I hope that she is able to heal from this as finds some peace and that she gets some justice for what she went through. Thank you for talking about such a sensitive topic in a way that helps others understand and explains the situation clearly
i am so so so glad i got reccomended your video! i knew of the situation before but you covered it in such a fair and good way, well done and thank you for considering how abusive relationships actually work throughout the video and THANK YOU FOR DOING RESEARCH AND SHOWING EVIDENCE (the amnt of commentary yts who just say things and dont show any evidence and people just believe the wrong thing disguts me) im glad to have found your channel!
My jaw is actually on the floor. Seeing and hearing the way he talks when he thinks it’s in private vs how he acts in his videos is insane. Like I’ve watched his videos for a long time and I always thought the “internet sensation” shit was poking fun at influencers who act like they’re better than others. This is crazy.
Thank you. From someone who was in a situation similar, thank you. Thank you for talking about trauma bonds, for talking about reactive trauma and behaviours. ❤ thank you for all of this
you explained this whole situation really really well. regardless of ‘context’, the things Alex said will never be okay. I think you handled this with such grace and intelligence, I hope Alice can heal from all of this and Alex doesn’t try to manipulate the situation to attack her. well done for speaking up on this in the best way💛
He better respond wisely and not make excuses. I have BPD, I was physically and emotionally abused by my ex wife, cheated on, and gaslighted…and I NEVER responded with anything even remotely close to his behavior. It doesn’t matter what she did in the relationship, it’s never ok to treat someone the way he was treating her. If a dynamic becomes so toxic that you feel the need to act this way, you need to just leave. I don’t need to hear his side, and I don’t care what she did because it doesn’t change how he chose to behave. He’s wrong, and he needs to get help.
I was so devo when this came to light, i enjoyed his content and collaborations, all the power to Al8ce,we are eomen,'HEAR US ROAR!" Good job with this vid Kat
as someone who's been in a relationship like that before, I was about to post a comment thanking you for actually explaining the realities of being in an abusive relationship like that and why its so hard to leave, but i got suddenly so irrationally scared of the thought that my ex might come across the comment randomly that i deleted it and almost moved on, but i realise how that in itself is a commentary about how these relationships fuck with people for years after. its over-said, but its because its important to acknowledge how incredibly brave alice is for exposing him like this. fuck alex im ashamed i ever held myself as a fan of his.
Katie i found you through alex and im unsure if you had dealings with him , im so glad you've kept it factual and not warped anything love ya babes x My heart goes out to alice she should never have had to endure this no one should. Its abhorrent behaviour. X
Glad to see you are covering it. Your experience obviously puts a better view across than other YT's Alex can't respond he is finished. Can't believe I actually liked his Content he was a Peice of Work
i don't think some people TRULYYY understand how difficult leaving abusive relationships can be, my sister is currently in one where i notice its entirely just manipulation, emotional abuse, and psychological abuse, and it is extremely hard to get her to leave the man she's with because he in fact does all the toxic abusive traits such as, love bombing, uses her codependency against her constantly despite her attempts to be independent, and any sort of validation from him. It's a fucking horrible situation to be. Thank you for making this video! i hope everyone sees how shit alex truly is. side note; you are SUPER pretty!
you speak with so much grace and understanding. i really appreciated the section about reactive abuse and will definitely be subscribing after watching this video from you.thank you❤
This whole Imalex situation is disgusting, I was a huge fan of his channel in the past. Until all this stuff came out about him. I don't usually like the word cancel but he really needs to be canceled.
I plan on making a video about this (words of encouragement for survivors) and I will definitely be linking your video in the description. Thank you so much for this video. 💞
Alice mentioned in her document that she did slap him once after being berated like she had been. She admitted to reactive abuse and said she felt ashamed. I have been in that position as well, so i understand. There is another story she points out that he might try to use against her where he was holding and making threats towards her cat and she took it from him and shoved him off of her. I was heathily skeptical going through the document until i watched the videos. The one where he was berating her and she was grey rocking got me. I had headphones in, so i could hear his voice fade a little bit and then get louder as she moved away from him and he followed her just to spew hatred. It was harrowing and triggered emotions within me from my own experience with this type of behavior. These people will goad you into participating in their behavior. They will isolate you and break you down and in the moment all you can think to do is shout back at them, try to show them how theyre treating you. Its awful because it doesnt make them stop, and now youve degraded yourself to their level and it serves to make you feel even more trapped and tied up in the relationship. It was really telling to me when she would message him saying "calls me a bitch, a useless whore" and stuff. Like she was trying to repeat his words back to him so he might realize how he was treating her. I tried that exact thing in my worst relationship, praying he would hear what he was saying and realize i didnt deserve that. They prey on your low self esteem. You dont believe you deserve to be treated better so you beg them to show you that you do deserve that by stopping. You know this shouldnt be happening to you but it is, and that causes a sense of dissociation/derealization like, what is it about me that created this situation. From the outside you can say, obviously this is a him problem, but when its happening to you and he used to be nice to you and you already have a troubled sense of self worth, its not that simple. Also, with her having Alex's name in her phone as the n-word, its both a separate issue and not. It doesnt devalue anything she said. Neither of them should have used that word at all, but i think that what happened was Alex is clearly someone who defaults to verbal abuse and will use the most horrendous language he can muster to demean and devalue the other person. There is no more dehumanizing word in our current language than the n-word so of course thats what he'll say. I think he said it so often that she became desensitized to it, and also that words history is most deeply rooted in American culture so i could imagine people in the UK and such wouldnt have as firm of a grasp on just how unacceptable that word is. To them its just a naughty racist word theyre not supposed to say, they dont have a personal relationship to how that word was truly used to strip the humanity from others. Alex saw it as a tool and i think Alice probably changed his name in her phone to that to create distance. I remember changing my abusers name in my phone to something impersonal like "ole dude" and "that" and "no". Of course shes wrong for ever using the word in the first place but i really believe she already knows that. Its pretty irrelevant to the point of exposing Alex as a total menace
I read that some people who are abusive use it to degrade their partners, regardless of race. She may be doing it to get back at him, but I still don't condone them using it.
I’m so glad that we have people like you out there in this shitty world that other people can rely on to stand up for them, this has definitely been one of the biggest shocks I’ve ever had in my life. We love you!
Very well put together video! I'm a 34 year old man (35 next week, go me!) but with a lot of life experience and lots of experience seeing how these mid 2010s youtubers have all turned out to be absolute psychos and degenerates, it's honestly shocking to see this.... He needs to simply be arrested, and laws need to be rewritten about domestic abuse
@direkeshinro sorry buddy in Cyprus and only just seen! Was a lovely birthday! But aye buddy, so many youtubers have fell off, I just upload my twitch streams to the tube so can hardly call myself a "TH-camr", but it's like a sess pit of bad people
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Just to say, the editing in this isn't my finest work. I wanted to put in more emphasis on the content rather than the editing. Thank you for watching.
dw about that, fancy editing would be OD here anyway, just the necessities, we get it
My word. THANK YOU for really giving context as to why certain portions of this is PERTINENT to this situation and others that are ab*sive. It’s unreal to me how so many still ask “why didn’t they just leave?!” In a way that is so incredibly offended AND offensive, even though it’s been over explained for years! I’m not sure if it’s because those people have never experienced it, or if they have and are just used to it, or if they really are that lacking empathy and cold. Either way, it’s definitely something that needs to be refrained from stating since it’s been shown to be really unacceptable.
The first clip was on point.
Aka gotta get this out while it's still relevant.
Just btw she does say she slapped Alex. (b4 he hit her) she said that he was screaming ather, had her bkd into a corner, and slapped him. she did explain and showed msgd, detailing the slap. plus it showed the date to be before she said he hit her. not on his side. just letting u kno as you said you couldnt find it. its there.
There is ZERO possible context that would ever make imallexx’s behaviour toward Alice okay. To talk to another human being like that in general is abhorrent enough but to speak to your partner in that way, a person you are supposed to love is unbelievable
@2727.L ate
My ex said that brick thing to me verbatim
The only excuse would be if she was just as abusive back but that’s obviously not how the situation was or else Alex would’ve came out with a response already… Alex is scum I’m so glad his true colours have been brought to light he’s always been problematic aswell
@Whiteytherat13 if she was as abusive back? So it would be OK for him to treat her like that if she reacted so much to the abuse, she was just as bad?
@@laurynbrewitt9668I think they mean if she was this abusive to him first/instigated with her own abuse.
People saying 'We need to hear Alex's side!!" when there's nothing in the world that could justify this derogatory behavior.
Not only that but everyone who used to be associated with him (Memeulous, Willne etc) has gone public to say they want nothing to do with him and are not tied to him in any way. These people used to be his friends and they knew him in real life and some of them even lived with him previously. Anyone defending him is stupid to think they know better than all the people speaking out about him, considering "fans" don't even know him, just by what he uploads.
Really. Like nothing. I know neither of the content creators, but it's so obvious that he is abusive.
Alex showed his side, his true side, in every message and with every vile word he spoke to someone he was supposed to love and support. Why should we give him the chance to try to lie and minimize his very hurtful actions? There’s no good reason for it.
@@ayana_0150 I was watching another video on this topic by a male TH-camr who kept holding a candle of doubt for Alex. A constant reminder that "we need to hear all sides of the story". Needless to say, I was appalled.
Its coming from people who are so unwilling to hear it as the truth that they believe that he couldn’t have behaved this way “without provocation”. People act like they see a few videos of a person that they know their true nature, forgetting that countless celebs have been outed as horrendous human beings who were believed to be kind human beings.
the fact Alice literally has an EIGHTY TWO page document with evidence and explanations of her time with Alex and people STILL try and defend hmm and claim she's lying is honestly disgusting
and no amount of explanations, apologies and crocodile tears from Alex will excuse his behaviour or make it better. i really hope Alice has a strong support system and can recover, she deserves nothing but the best.
I’m gonna be honest, I’ve literally not seen a single person defend Alex for what he has done. I do hope Alice recovers from this though & I’m glad that she is getting a massive amount of support.
name a single person defending this goblin
@@greg_one_izmsome of his goblin minions are defending him on TikTok
While I haven’t seen anyone who is a content creator defend him, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of his fans are defending him. We can see how viciously stupid and blind people can be, willingly ignoring what’s right in front of them in black and white because the truth is more uncomfortable than acknowledging that someone they potentially looked up to is actually a horrible person.
After watching the screen recordings of HIM actively berating the shit out of her my entire image of him is absolutely destroyed. Of course before I even opened the doc I was in a bit of denial but after I recognised the verbal and physical abuse that my mother's ex put us through there was absolutely no going back. I'm actually horrified. my jaw is still open after scrolling past hundreds. and hundreds. and hundreds of examples of his abuse.
Ohhh dude I fucking love the irony of Alex dropping the n to his gf at the time in DMs while always having a holier than thou attitude in his videos
Also it is uncensored in the video at 11:32 I am not sure but YT may have a problem with that
wtf!! all of this is unacceptable of course but using a racist slur? fucking come on
Fucking exactly man. I actually unsubbed to him because he was turning in to a SJW. Now all of that was just an act, so he cant even show anyone his real side. Cant even be real with himself, embarrassing
The fact it came out so casually too :0 *the 14 going on 44 looking gremlin*
Who gives a crap it's just a word
Actually gutted. Watched that man to get me through a period where I myself was getting out of an abusive relationship. Literally couldn't feel more sick reading that Google doc, my strength, love and kindness is being sent to Alice every day.
i hope you’re doing okay now, or atleast in a healthier place.
im so sorry hun, hope you’re healing and doing better xx
his behaviour to her was absolutely vile, i really hope alice is okay. can't believe i ever supported him
Its so strange that when elphabas mum maria told alex to do what robin williams did he made an entire video criticising her whilst he was telling his own gf to do the same thing
Hmm.. 🤔 I think they went to the same charm school 😒 actually when you think about it,the same narcissistic personalities glow the words..."I'm the only one who can behave this badly" that's why Alex abhorred these other vile humans ...IMO 🤨
Damn.
No joke I think all those videos just came off as obsessive and just feeding into the attention elhpaba wanted which is probably due to her mental health. When it comes to ppl that do so much for attention and also speaking about the struggle she faces when it comes to certain things she needs a therapist, she needs help bc that is not what someone who is okay do
@@Turtlegreens123 He's male SSSniperwolf.
that is really strange... i mean why would that person's mom tell them to pursue standup comedy and appear in the board game film "jumanji"? just doesn't add up
Glad you made a video on this Katie! The worst of the worst kind of thing to cover, you've done a great job.
is this you Jake? stay safe
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца yes it is me. I will.
Jake will you do a video on it? Or do you feel you're too close? I get that you made a statement etc
I wouldn't say it's the worst of the worst thing to cover....I mean at the end of the day commentary TH-camrs profit off of this stuff.
@@JGburneraccount the video has no ads.
Honestly when people say "why didn't you leave?" My mum knows me better than anyone but she had absolutely no idea what I was going through because I hid it so well. I don't even recognise the person I was back then 💔
Exactly. I had to be incredibly sneaky when I tried to leave because i was legit afraid for my life and my pet’s life.
(we’re safe and doing good but god that is such a bleak memory)
i'm so sorry my love, i hope your life is now peaceful like you deserve
@@amelia-hx8xn Ty ❤️ I'm in a much better place now thankfully but it took a long time to recover x
@@meatofmink I'm glad you're safe now, I took my cat and ran and I'm so glad I did ❤️ sending you all the respect and good vibes x
@@KerryLeanne89 i’m very glad ♥️ you deserve nothing but the best 💕
Coming from you, Kati, an individual who’s endured an abusive partner in the past, I appreciate you taking the time to make a video on this. Your take on this video is very empathetic and considerate for Alice’s sake. Alex was a fairly big commentary TH-camr so it makes sense why she was scared to come forward about this. The evidence of Alex’s actions are not only screenshotted but also video recorded - Alice deserves nothing but support! I used to watch Alex a lot and fairly enjoyed his content so it infuriates me when I see people who also watched him and defend him despite not looking at any of the 82 page document simply because he’s their “comfort” content creator! Commentary TH-camrs like you, Jake Baz, George (Memeulous), Fraiser (iNabber) are honestly my favs because you guys do remind your viewers that at the end of the day we don’t know you guys personally - internet personas often are completely different whether it’s an enhanced version of themselves of a complete 180 or their character. You’re truly a gem Kati; nuanced, raw, and to the point without being afraid to voice your opinion. You’re unapologetically you ❤❤
I'm wondering how Fraser is going to respond to this. I hope he didn't know any of this previously and that it doesn't reflect negatively on him. This situation is absolutely disgusting and awful, I've been there and I didn't speak up. I feel so bad for Alice and any other fellow DA/SA victim.
Edit! I hadn't gotten to the part where Kat showed Fraser's statement!
@@graciesugarbeeAnd now people are saying Inabber is just as bad so hmmm
@lorddarlo6194 good I don't like him or his sheep fanbase
@@michiko9075inabber came out with a statement, plus kirst didnt really give any evidence, just baseless accusations
This coming out and the impact on his career and community helped me realize i need to leave my abusive relationship my partner talks to me like this and treats me like this and i just kind of thought well that’s just who he is i know it’s not okay but its been 3.5 years and i have been desensitized until i saw this. Im happy for Alice to be rid of this boy and look forward to being free too
i hope you can find the courage to leave, it’s a really hard thing to go through but as cliche as it sounds you come out the other side so much better eventually 🖤
good for you, you deserve better, never accept that shit! why make do with a scumbag when you could have someone that will treat you right? it's gonna be okay
Sending you so much love and strength 🤍 you deserve the absolute best and I promise life will give you that when you put yourself first 🤍 be safe and take care! You deserve the world 🌎 🫶🏻
Stay strong!
I believe in you my love, please stay kind to yourself in the process, gaining clarity is difficult but worth it 100% you have support!! xx
I used to think his blurred background was just a neat style choice. Turns out, he’s probably hiding a wrecked office.
The creepiest part is that he continuously checks himself on the camera/playback screen like he can't stop looking at himself, even when he's spouting absolutely horrible vitriol. What a narcissist.
trauma bond is so hard to understand if you haven't experienced it. you feel your only value lies with your abuser and if you leave you are nothing. thanks for speaking on this and bringing awareness for other survivors.
Also they make you feel like you are the only person in the world that can make them be ok. You start to feel like you are lucky they love you so much they can’t live without you. You must help them. It’s the worst and I was older when it first happened to me and took me 16 yrs to get out of it. Now I’m alone for the last 4 years and couldn’t be happier.
this, i always thought id never put up with any disrespect/abuse from a partner, but when youre in that vulnerable position, the manipulation and insecurity make it impossible to think clearly. im still baffled at everything i excused away as being deserved or “not that bad”, truly terrifying position to be in
Been waiting for this video. So many people/youtubers/ex-girlfriends are coming after him it's insane
That is terrible what he said. As someone who struggles with panic attacks, generalized anxiety, extreme depression, bipolar, social anxiety, ptsd, and suicidal ideation, I could NEVER tell someone to kill themself. That’s just evil. I feel so bad for this girl.
For reals man i extremely agree with that !🖤
Poor Alice. I think even without further context, Alice has survived an incredibly disturbing pattern of abuse and I really hope she's okay
Thank you young lady, for pointing out reactive abuse and how abusers will try to act like the bigger person by saying that they've moved on while you have not.
That helped contextualize the abuse I experienced in the last year. Thank you for that.
Exactly what I thought, I hope one day us and other people who have been through this type of abuse receive the closure that they deserve
I understand that making this was probably really difficult and possibly triggering for you but thank you for making it and helping Alice’s situation be heard, It’s a tough subject when you’ve had your own experience 🖤
@@eddlovesskiing ok well thanks I mean you’re correct I don’t know the situation, I’m only aware of what she’s said about it and I am just being empathetic as someone who has dealt with grooming and abuse. Sorry for trying to be a nice person? you know you can just ignore comments right? Christ get a grip.
(TW similar to the video)
I was in an abusive relationship in high school and I literally dont know why I didn't dump him the first time he called me an ugly whore or hit me. It's not that simple. Yes, I swung back defending myself and left bite marks on his hands. It's not that simple.
I was 17 years old and he was my first boyfriend. Of course I thought I was ugly and undesirable.
Court or public opinion, is not that simple. Everyone called me a dumb crybaby liar, and court said "well, he's young and we don't want this on his record".
It is literally so nice to see someone else saying that it's just not that simple.
ur so strong ml xx proud of u
Damn what the court said was fucking slimy. Hope god sorts that bastard out
So you gave him the Tina Turner treatment?
this is probably one of the better videos ive seen covered on this topic, a lot of people don’t seem very sympathetic towards alice and just view it as new content to cover instead of something traumatic that has happened to someone so thank you for putting in the time into making this video ❤️❤️
my heart aches for Alice, I hope she is able to heal. I hope he loses his platforms forever and goes to jail.
Not to steer away from the topic but this has been the best video since the news was released. There is no better person to talk about the gravity of the situation!
Kat, you've delved deep, brought up important points and with everything you've put across, I find myself agreeing to everything you had to say regarding this tragedy. I see you as a massive advocate for helping those who may be suffering and/or have suffered from dv, so in saying that; what you have done with this is mighty admirable.
It goes to show the bravery you and Alice possesse when being able to speak out about such sensitive situations, both of you will have many people on your side, including me. Thank you for continuing to spread awareness, I pray many more people see this, knowing they are not alone. ❤
Spot on!!
Yes, you are absolutely right. I am so glad that it was not showcased as some kind of internet drama and more as a serious topic, as it rightfully should be.
i feel bad for Alice
Im genuinely gutted, and horrified by Alex. As someone from the Uk, the first video i saw on this was by an American, and before he showed any evidence i was hoping that it was just British bants taken out of context, but holy moly. Very mistaken. I feel so bad for Alice, and as someone that has survived d0mestic @buse, i really hope she has a good support network and gets through this ending up as a victor and not a victim, She is so strong for coming out with this
Victim shaming is still a very prominent thing in today's society, and I would say very common all throughout history. Even by people who should be there to support and help us. It's something I think most of us have gone through at some point. Thank you for talking about this, and also being so accurate as to what you can and can not support with fact.
i could agree with that, but a blured line is there as people who are critical or skeptical are usually seen as victim blaming. because people are crazy.
@Choosetoone @Choosetoone It's totally understandable to be skeptical without evidence, that's why I said I appreciate the accuracy as to what you can and can't support with fact, because it's important to base things off fact. Although when there is clearly enough to support her side, like the way he is clearly treating her in live streams and texts, and everyone is still saying "oh what did she do?" I would call that victim blaming. There's not enough yet to support his side, as he wants to stay quiet and for her to stay quiet. It seems like he could clear things up pretty easily. What I said is a fact about victim shaming, regardless of whether there are certain situations where people have lied. That part shouldn't matter, if you are basing it off of evidence. Also everything should be thoroughly looked into based on a case to case circumstance. I would say it's pretty clear when someone is just making up claims, and usually they have something to gain in those situations.
@@LoveIsVitalEverlasting sure, I agree. Just putting what I said out there. Nothing he brings forward will show him to be innocent I don't believe. It would just make her on his level possibly. So it's either he is bad or he and her are bad. I mean from what I know about her. I already don't like or trust her based on the slazo thing.
Also generalizing people as crazy may be part of the problem. I would rather take it seriously, giving them the benefit of the doubt rather than be skeptical first and foremost. If it is true, wouldn't you rather believe them until it's proven otherwise? Unless it seems like they're clearly blowing smoke up your ass, I think it's better to take them seriously in case there is abuse. Especially since if the person being accused can easily disprove it.
@Choosetoone I understand that. I am not aware of her content, only his honestly. In that way, I am not fully aware of the other side of the situation.
Thank you Kat, appreciate your take on this 🙏🙌hope you are all ok
You've just earned yourself a new subscriber. This is genuinely the best commentary video I've ever seen. You addressed something so vile in a professional and objective manner, and were so clear when you were talking about the facts, your opinions, and your own experiences. Very very good video, the best video I've seen discussing this incident. Hats off to you, especially because you mention you've been through similar experiences. That in itself is immensely brave, and you should be very proud. :)
this means a lot, thank you.
@@katiclyzm You're very welcome - you'll go far, and I'm looking forward to seeing that :)
from what i remember, the context of alice hitting alex was because he threatened to cause harm to her cat. can't remember where i saw this though - i think it was in rachel oates' video on the situation
i do think now you mention this i saw that part actually, thank you for reminding me
That’s ironic as now on his videos he has two kittens 😳
Apparently she didn't hit him then but pushed him off her when he "joked" about breaking her cat's neck. She also admitted to slapping him once, due to him being in her face and being abusive. She's been very open about that and explained that it was reactive abuse. There's only so much someone can take before they snap back. I really feel for her.
@@Saraphina6 you don't touch your partner like that.
@@Choosetoonewdym?
Thank you for talking about this, you are the only logical person i am able to sit watch and agree with every single word you have said, others dont make any sort of comment or make comments i dont agree with at all that make me mad.
Thank you again for speaking up on this topic, your my favourite commitary youtuber.
I am black and disappointed by Alice's language but remember that there's no perfect victim and two things can be recognized at once for those trying to discredit her.
And that’s what makes her evidence so much more important. She isn’t covering up things she did to make herself look perfect.
@@12bree4 yet, we still need the otherside.
@@Choosetoone I’d love to hear what you think can Alex can say to excuse his behavior.
@@killing.killian soea not matter, you need both sides. at this point we know he is bad but is she also? won't help him but will take her with him assuming she is the same. you never know.
@@Choosetooneno, we don’t.
The best, most balanced and nuanced video I have seen on this subject thus far. Thank You
Agreed
I've learned in these situations not to immediately side with someone but if a video comes up of someone swinging a knife and saying unlawful things and threatening someone you wouldn't stay fully unbiased and ask for context. Your mind would most likely think that they're a psycho. However, also something I've noticed is that people are dogshitting on Alex (not my issue) but not for the right reason. I've seen multiple people just go "Oh I've never liked him for no reason and now I have a reason to" or they talk about the "Slazo incident" (never knew abt the Slazo incident until recently but I've seen some people give more of a fuck abt Slazo than Alice) and everyone is quick to just throw down with the abuser but not console the victim. Right now the main concern should be just supporting Alice at this time, as well as ridiculing Alex but mainly supporting Alice. Now don't think this is defending Alex, I fucking hate him for what he did, but I feel like some people are just anti Alex for not the wrong reasons but more personal ones.
I do mention the Slazo situation. Not because I care more about him than Alice, but as someone who was around when that situation happened in 2019, it was super infuriating how Alex continued to have a platform after ruining another man’s life. It gave him the ability to ruin more lives after that (and even prior with KingAni.) the bottom line is that I’m finally glad Alex is getting what’s coming to him after being undeservedly forgiven from Slazo’s situation, but I’m also incredibly furious for Alice.
My two cents are essentially that Alex is a fucking jackass and should have been deplatformed since day one.
Wow I'm aghast that some people are reading through those earlier texts and think they're irrelevant when he's literally telling her he hates her, calling her obscenities, even using slurs. It's wild those are only the 'tamer' parts of the document
To touch on "why wouldn't someone just leave a relationship like that" I have another example of being trapped.
I was in an abusive relationship and he manipulated me so hard he genuienly made me believe that no one else could love me and the sad truth for me was that I'd rather be in emotional agony 24/7 than be alone for the rest of my life.
I didn't share it to take away from Alice's horrible situation or to get pity as I've healed from that trauma at this point, but to give another view to people who might not understand that severity that you can't just leave at all times
Thank you for speaking out on this. I've seen a lot of people who have said things like "well what did she do?" I've been with my husband for a very long time. Even in anger we have never said similar things to each other like Alex said in those videos. Nothing justifies those things.
Used to love Alex with my whole heart I would religiously watch him but what he’s been alleged to do is sick
same, but this is sick af and i def cant support him anymore (idk about the slazo situation either)
@@kinghanaa1157 no because that’s so real if it’s true and im like 99% sure it is I don’t think I’ll watch him ever and I’ve been a fan since 2016 just hope Alice is okay
@@nicoleclarkxx ive been watching him since not too long after you, this proof is just absolutely crazy
i hope alice is doing better, and didnt he have another girlfriend?? i hope shes okay too
same, i have his merch and idk what to do with it now:(
@@kinghanaa1157 yeah real hope they are all okay it’s unbelievable
I’ve been dying for you to cover this. Thank you for speaking out.
your way of explaining the situation is honestly the best I’ve seen, I really hope Alice is doing better now
Best video on TH-cam addressing the situation. Very educational and informative as well as addressing Alice’s experiences alongside the subject of domestic violence itself. Thank you so much. ❤
Will definitely donate on payday, cause this is vile no man or woman should go through this.
I’ve personally gone through it and it can break a person and hope she’s gonna be okay
I really appreciate you speaking out and highlighting this. I think a lot of people forget about that "trauma bond" situation as well, so I really appreciate you touching on it. I had it in a relationship before where despite the insults hurled at me, I thought "oh they're having a bad day. I'm just not helping that. it's okay." in my head because I genuinely cared about that person. You don't realise it until you're far away from it all.
my heart goes to alice. and kati, you have experienced abusive relationships so i think you giving your insight on it is only helpful for other girls. please be a girls girl and make a video guide to realize you are getting involved w an abuser, how to cope and how to escape. bc as a woman im also exposed to that probability. and im sure so many otther girls would need to hear that. much lov, hope justice is served and stay strong alice
As someone who survived an abusive relationship with someone that had an “innocent” outward appearance I’m glad she got out. Mine turned from verbal to physical to r**e and in the end attempted murder
I understand making this was probably extremely difficult for you and i’m super proud you were able to do it. Thank you for educating and being a good person and we love you ❤️
Honestly, this is the best, most concise, honest and, IMO fair video I've seen on this situation. Really appreciate you doing such an amazing job, putting the work & heart into it, thank you.
I’m so proud of Alice to not be scared anymore and be brave and talk about Alex. Alex has always been sketchy from Slazo situation. He’s absolutely vile. Alice is such an amazing woman, not to mention but all the other women who came out too.❤️ Thanks for making a video on this Kati, you’re such a good person and empathic.✨
I can relate to many others with reactive abuse, with a family member that I’ve experienced reactive abuse with, and honestly it makes the victim just feel horrible and it’s a vile thing. To everyone who’s experienced it, I hope you all are doing well and okay.
Been waiting for this video for a whole 3 days, was excited to see what you had to say abt this
thank you truly for covering this
i try to understand the fear and the absolute pain that revolves in an abusive relationship
the physical, emotional and mental abuse, just wanting a sigh of relief to make it stop and just go away from it
it's a heavy and sensitive subject
Thank you for explaining how my abuse was. I have never had someone properly explain this. Its been 8 years and I still questioned why I stayed. Now I dont. Thank you for such concise coverage on this topic.
I followed Alex around the sametime as you so Alex's previous stuff wasn't known to me, having said that, reading those texts and seeing the video call made me feel disgusted.. if it can make an onlooker feel that way, it must feel 100x worse for Alice. glad she got away and hope she stays away.
I did notice a pattern of Alex always calling her dumb and losing the plot whenever Alice didn't understand something. my dad used to treat me that way [sometimes my mum too] so reading that almost brought me back to those moments. it is a soul crushing feeling knowing the people you love consider you to be dumb as heck. not to mention the language he called you know wh*re etc no excuse for it. none at all. you can hear Alice in the background when Alex is losing it, she's crushed by his words.
To be honest having less 500k doesn't make you an internet celebrity lol delusion of grandeur much.
I usually like to hear both sides but in this case Alice has provided enough evidence that there is no doubt that he has done and said those things. as i said no excuse for any of it. if you have been abused and you snap and shout back then in my mind its justified. in my mind its a form of self defence but that's just an opinion of a randomer on the internet.
thanks for the video. hope Alice is ok.
Thank you for using your platform to raise awareness for victims, I hope Alice heals from this situation
the way he talks to her is so chilling it’s like he’s a completely different person than what he shows on his channel… i always kinda felt something off but this is another level. my heart goes out to alice and anyone else struggling with an abusive man, you’re not alone ❤
Girl i was waiting for you to do this. I remember commenting on a vid of yours not long ago sticking up for alex with elphaba. Im so glad you posted your opinion
All put really well, I hope Alice is okay and I'm glad you've spoken to her
I loved Alex so much, truly thought he was a good creator. I'm devastated that a channel i relied on turned out to be part of the problem. Thank you for covering this
even after the slazo thing you still loved him?
@@Choosetoone I only watched his videos, I wasn't aware of any of that. I only watch a couple of commentary TH-camrs so
yeahh same i used to watch his videos every now and then a while ago, all that matters now is that the truth has come out and the bastard got what was coming to him
@@tealing_ same I use to like him
Yess I’m so glad you are speaking out about this and boosting the support for Alice not enough people are unsubscribing from him fast enough he is one nasty human being I am disgusted I ever supported him and i am embarrassed for the people who are still subbed this situation needs to be heard by everyone and no one should be supporting someone who does not under any circumstances deserve a platform x
Thankyou kati for sharing your thoughts.. "reactive abuse" is something that I,as yourself, can relate to.its not a widely used term and only in the aftermath this was discussed. NOBODY should live like that and especially when it's,as you say,another who preaches about how damaging both mental and physical abuse is.but that's what I call the" I'm quite a nice person" syndrome. I've been forced to be strong mentally due to life experience in many areas,but it breaks my heart to see such vulnerable people being treated in such a manner. However,im also wanting to give recognition that Alice has been so brave to come forward.people may say that it may not the way to do this ,BUT what some people don't realise is ..ITS PROBABLY THE SAFEST WAY for a vulnerable young human like Alice to come forward and make others aware of something so awful has happened to her,{this just wasn't an option in my day} .. there are many who just can't see the way forward so let's hope that Alice' brave actions has given at least one more person the courage to come forward and save themselves...thanks again kati,and I'm so sorry that Alex elmslie has turned out to be a jekyll and Hyde..💜🖤💜
I love that you, as a woman and also a U.K TH-camr have spoken up about this. I loved Alex, I loved his content but hearing the audios and hearing Alice constantly say "go away. Go away" and him not listening. Him threatening to bash her head in with a brick it is deeply unsettling. But you have made it very clear and confirmed what I'm sure a lot of women are thinking/have experienced. Thank you♡
I always hate it when a victim speaks out about abuse and instead of being supportive and sympathetic, the internet tries to play detective and figure out who the abuser is. Like let the victim name them in their own time. It's the whole shelby situation, the baby reindeer situation and this one too. It's just unhelpful and shifts the attention away from the people who were actually harmed.
Some people could be lying which is why some people investigate are u slow or something
@@Honesttoyouif the person doesn’t name the abuser then there’s no harm for the latter, so whether it’s a lie or not it doesn’t matter, there’s no consequences for either sides. the person is just telling about the experience without any slight details so there’s no need for internet to try find out who it’s about.
thanks for doing this Katie .. it can't have been easy
So glad your covering this Katie 👏 you know your stuff girl so glad to hear your input in the situation 👏👏💕
Thank you for covering this
Alice was super brave for speaking out. I was in an abusive relationship earlier this year- it wasn’t until i went on a vacation and had time away that i realized he was so emotionally abusive. I couldn’t even watch something i wanted on TH-cam with him so when i was able to choose what food i wanted to eat, videos to watch, etc (basically being able to choose things for myself to watch) i realized how wonderful it was to be with myself. I wasn’t constantly having to tip toe around emotions like it was broken glass. My opinions made me happy and i was safe to share them with my sister, which was never okay with him. I always had to predict how he felt about a topic, adapt to the circumstance and change how i felt about whatever i was talking about to make him feel better. Hearing about all this has no doubt brought up a bunch of feelings but im so incredibly proud of Alice for speaking up. She came through with receipts and i hope she stays safe
0:32 I’m really happy that you put a warning about this situation cause none of the videos I’ve seen have.
I always thought "why don't you just leave" until I was in an abusive relationship myself. I will never judge anyone for staying in an abusive relationship ever again.
I’m really glad someone made a video about this & actually added a fundraiser, Thankyou Katie, great video-
I had to pause and take a break after 16:20. My heart was racing seeing his aggression and the violence in those gestures and words. I cannot imagine being the subject of that, let alone it coming from a loved one. This is heartbreaking, my heart goes out to Alice. :(
My mum just got out of an emotionally abusive relationship. She's completely traumatised but is luckily being supported by a women's charity. Alex reminds me of her partner. I assume Alex is in his 20s, it's weird that someone of his age uses the same tactics that my mum's 60 year old partner did. My mum made some bad decisions as a result of the mental abuse and did some questionable things...so I don't think anything Alex can come out with against Alice will "justify" his behaviour. Mental abuse strips you of any security and I imagine I'd do some odd things in that state too.
This video has definitely been the best one to come out in regard to HIM and his abusive behavior, all the others have just been waiting for a reason to shit on him, you’ve actually covered what really matters here
19:00 Alice explained somewhere that he had cornered her, screaming in her face calling her all the same stuff he does, she started crying and he laughed at her for crying, and she slapped it round the face grabbed her stuff and left his flat
Coming from a survivor this is such an important thing to talk about and bring awareness to, especially the reactive abuse. I hope that she is able to heal from this as finds some peace and that she gets some justice for what she went through. Thank you for talking about such a sensitive topic in a way that helps others understand and explains the situation clearly
you did a great job of presenting the evidence and analyzing. makes it very digestible despite the horrible circumstances
You missed how manipulative it is that he said he’d spoken with his Mom about the weight of his words… Mommy ain’t gonna save you now boy
i am so so so glad i got reccomended your video! i knew of the situation before but you covered it in such a fair and good way, well done and thank you for considering how abusive relationships actually work throughout the video and THANK YOU FOR DOING RESEARCH AND SHOWING EVIDENCE (the amnt of commentary yts who just say things and dont show any evidence and people just believe the wrong thing disguts me)
im glad to have found your channel!
My jaw is actually on the floor. Seeing and hearing the way he talks when he thinks it’s in private vs how he acts in his videos is insane. Like I’ve watched his videos for a long time and I always thought the “internet sensation” shit was poking fun at influencers who act like they’re better than others. This is crazy.
Thank you. From someone who was in a situation similar, thank you. Thank you for talking about trauma bonds, for talking about reactive trauma and behaviours. ❤ thank you for all of this
was waiting for you to talk about this! thank you for spreading awareness to it on your channel and speaking about it respectfully. this means a lot ❤
kati huge fan here and you have covered an handled this better than any other creator ive watched, thank you so much this is great
you explained this whole situation really really well. regardless of ‘context’, the things Alex said will never be okay. I think you handled this with such grace and intelligence, I hope Alice can heal from all of this and Alex doesn’t try to manipulate the situation to attack her. well done for speaking up on this in the best way💛
He better respond wisely and not make excuses. I have BPD, I was physically and emotionally abused by my ex wife, cheated on, and gaslighted…and I NEVER responded with anything even remotely close to his behavior. It doesn’t matter what she did in the relationship, it’s never ok to treat someone the way he was treating her. If a dynamic becomes so toxic that you feel the need to act this way, you need to just leave. I don’t need to hear his side, and I don’t care what she did because it doesn’t change how he chose to behave. He’s wrong, and he needs to get help.
I was so devo when this came to light, i enjoyed his content and collaborations, all the power to Al8ce,we are eomen,'HEAR US ROAR!" Good job with this vid Kat
as someone who's been in a relationship like that before, I was about to post a comment thanking you for actually explaining the realities of being in an abusive relationship like that and why its so hard to leave, but i got suddenly so irrationally scared of the thought that my ex might come across the comment randomly that i deleted it and almost moved on, but i realise how that in itself is a commentary about how these relationships fuck with people for years after. its over-said, but its because its important to acknowledge how incredibly brave alice is for exposing him like this. fuck alex im ashamed i ever held myself as a fan of his.
Katie i found you through alex and im unsure if you had dealings with him , im so glad you've kept it factual and not warped anything love ya babes x
My heart goes out to alice she should never have had to endure this no one should.
Its abhorrent behaviour. X
Thank you for covering this. Our love goes out to Alice.
do you think this story is gonna end up with two scum bags?
Glad to see you are covering it. Your experience obviously puts a better view across than other YT's Alex can't respond he is finished. Can't believe I actually liked his Content he was a Peice of Work
Genuinely thank you for covering this superbly well, there was even things in this I wouldn't have thought of at ALL.. so I appreciate this take
i don't think some people TRULYYY understand how difficult leaving abusive relationships can be, my sister is currently in one where i notice its entirely just manipulation, emotional abuse, and psychological abuse, and it is extremely hard to get her to leave the man she's with because he in fact does all the toxic abusive traits such as, love bombing, uses her codependency against her constantly despite her attempts to be independent, and any sort of validation from him. It's a fucking horrible situation to be. Thank you for making this video! i hope everyone sees how shit alex truly is. side note; you are SUPER pretty!
you speak with so much grace and understanding. i really appreciated the section about reactive abuse and will definitely be subscribing after watching this video from you.thank you❤
I usually tend to wait for both sides but (especially the video clips) there is NO defending this. I hope Alice is doing ok.
great video about the situation. it's so relieving to see someone talk about these kinds of stuff in a none biased way or tone.
Greatly made video and you spoke so clearly Thankyou for bringing light to this and hopefully this helps others :)
This whole Imalex situation is disgusting, I was a huge fan of his channel in the past. Until all this stuff came out about him. I don't usually like the word cancel but he really needs to be canceled.
My biggest shock from this is that Alex isn't gay
he's bi, he's been pretty open about that over the course of his career
@@kristophhunter fairs, didn't know that
thanks Katie for doing this hope you're doing okay must have been rough as a lady to see all that and not go berserk
I plan on making a video about this (words of encouragement for survivors) and I will definitely be linking your video in the description. Thank you so much for this video. 💞
Alice mentioned in her document that she did slap him once after being berated like she had been. She admitted to reactive abuse and said she felt ashamed. I have been in that position as well, so i understand. There is another story she points out that he might try to use against her where he was holding and making threats towards her cat and she took it from him and shoved him off of her.
I was heathily skeptical going through the document until i watched the videos. The one where he was berating her and she was grey rocking got me. I had headphones in, so i could hear his voice fade a little bit and then get louder as she moved away from him and he followed her just to spew hatred. It was harrowing and triggered emotions within me from my own experience with this type of behavior. These people will goad you into participating in their behavior. They will isolate you and break you down and in the moment all you can think to do is shout back at them, try to show them how theyre treating you. Its awful because it doesnt make them stop, and now youve degraded yourself to their level and it serves to make you feel even more trapped and tied up in the relationship. It was really telling to me when she would message him saying "calls me a bitch, a useless whore" and stuff. Like she was trying to repeat his words back to him so he might realize how he was treating her. I tried that exact thing in my worst relationship, praying he would hear what he was saying and realize i didnt deserve that. They prey on your low self esteem. You dont believe you deserve to be treated better so you beg them to show you that you do deserve that by stopping. You know this shouldnt be happening to you but it is, and that causes a sense of dissociation/derealization like, what is it about me that created this situation. From the outside you can say, obviously this is a him problem, but when its happening to you and he used to be nice to you and you already have a troubled sense of self worth, its not that simple.
Also, with her having Alex's name in her phone as the n-word, its both a separate issue and not. It doesnt devalue anything she said. Neither of them should have used that word at all, but i think that what happened was Alex is clearly someone who defaults to verbal abuse and will use the most horrendous language he can muster to demean and devalue the other person. There is no more dehumanizing word in our current language than the n-word so of course thats what he'll say. I think he said it so often that she became desensitized to it, and also that words history is most deeply rooted in American culture so i could imagine people in the UK and such wouldnt have as firm of a grasp on just how unacceptable that word is. To them its just a naughty racist word theyre not supposed to say, they dont have a personal relationship to how that word was truly used to strip the humanity from others. Alex saw it as a tool and i think Alice probably changed his name in her phone to that to create distance. I remember changing my abusers name in my phone to something impersonal like "ole dude" and "that" and "no". Of course shes wrong for ever using the word in the first place but i really believe she already knows that. Its pretty irrelevant to the point of exposing Alex as a total menace
I read that some people who are abusive use it to degrade their partners, regardless of race. She may be doing it to get back at him, but I still don't condone them using it.
I’m so glad that we have people like you out there in this shitty world that other people can rely on to stand up for them, this has definitely been one of the biggest shocks I’ve ever had in my life. We love you!
Very well put together video!
I'm a 34 year old man (35 next week, go me!) but with a lot of life experience and lots of experience seeing how these mid 2010s youtubers have all turned out to be absolute psychos and degenerates, it's honestly shocking to see this.... He needs to simply be arrested, and laws need to be rewritten about domestic abuse
Happy birthday(I hope it’s happened now) and I also agree
@direkeshinro sorry buddy in Cyprus and only just seen! Was a lovely birthday! But aye buddy, so many youtubers have fell off, I just upload my twitch streams to the tube so can hardly call myself a "TH-camr", but it's like a sess pit of bad people
@@PoSiTiVeLyGlAd happy to hear you had an amazing birthday also agreed