Great Players of the Past: Efim Bogoljubov
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Games Discussed:
Efim Bogoljubov vs. Jacques Mieses
Baden-Baden Baden-Baden (1925)
Timman, Jan H vs. Salov, Valery
Candidates m4 Saint John (1988)
Efim Bogoljubov vs. Hans Mueller
Triberg (1934)
Efim Bogoljubov vs. Akiba Rubinstein
Stockholm (1920)
Finegold, Benjamin vs. De Firmian, Nick E
Chicago Int (1994)
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GM Finegold:
"When yesterday's brand new lecture on Alekhine chess does well it is because it is a brand new lecture.
When this reupload does well it is because it is because I am GM Finegold"
I remember reading that book "500 Master Games of Chess" when I was 13 and Bogoljubov's name was the craziest name I had ever seen in my life.
His name is hard to say, that's how you know he's a strong player
It's a great name to present in the USA: "My name is 'f-ing' Bogoljubov, beach!"
hard? Bogo-liu-bov.
Hard to say? Why?
It's easy to pronounce.
Omfg...
Then they "Now it's World War I!
So he said "What's World War I?"
And they said "When we have World War II you'll find out."
I'm dying. I literally just blew root beer out of my nose and onto my phone. 😂
7:00 You were correct first time. The photo is at the World Championship match, the start of which was played in Weisbaden. The caption "Weisbaden, 1929" is just the place and date, not a tournament.
7:24 "And this looks suspiciously like [...] Emmanuel Lasker."
Lasker was the arbiter for the Berlin leg of the 1929 match.
You are an amazing, and very amusing, storyteller Sir GM :) thanks for the lecture!
Mr Grandmaster Ben Finegold sir
He also had a defense in the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit named after him: 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 g6 6.Bc4 Bg7.
my opening database has 16 opening variations named after him:
1.c4 c6 2.Nf3 d5 3.b3
1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 a6 5.e4
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.g3 Nf6 7.Bg2 Be7 8.0-0 0-0 9.Bg5 Be6 10.Rc1 c4
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Nbd7 5.e3 c6 6.Nf3 Qa5 7.Nd2 Bb4 8.Qc2
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 Be7
1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 g6
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.Bd3 c5 5.b3 Nc6 6.0-0 Bd6 7.Bb2 0-0
1.d4 Nc6
1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 0-0 8.c3 d6 9.d4 Bg4
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Na5 6.Bb5 c6 7.dxc6 bxc6 8.Qf3
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bb5 Nd4 5.Nxe5 Qe7 6.f4
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Bg5 Nc6
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.Bd2
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Bb4 5.exd5 Qxd5 6.Bxf6 gxf6 7.Qd2 Qa5
1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3
Bens Obsession with Nein is amazing
When Bogoljubov ready, Bogoljubov come back.
"What's your clearance, Clarence?"
"What's your vector, Victor?"
"Roger, Roger."
He got first place ahead of Lasker and Capablanca because "they were pretty old by then"? Bogo was only 5 months younger than Capa!
17:40 maybe he accidentally touched his king and had to move him?
Chessmetrics says, he was #1 in January und February 1927. That means he was clearly in the Top 5 for a while. Indeed from 1920 till 1936 most time he was in the Top 5 of the world.
Yes of course we could argue, that chess metrics isn't the only measurement. But I think if we analyze the centipawns, I think, he would also be a good player.
It is well known that his achievements have always been somewhat downplayed for collaborating with the Germans. And before the engines the acknowledged strength of the players was somewhat subjective.
Now I look the rest of the video 🙂
@@1234444rbi Where is the problem, when Capablanca won Nottingham 1936, Botvinnik didn't scored enough and Capablanca didn't play until next year, where he lost a lot of points. It seems always calculate from the past, not from the future. This is just like normal rating calculation works. E.g. if Kasparov would play again, he would be immedietly Top 3 in the world. And that's not even the reason, why Capablanca is ranked #1 in 1937. Please note, Capablanca won in 1936 at the age of 47 a world class tournament - for instance with Botvinnik.
Same to Lasker. It's all calculated - if you like it or not.
And in the beginning of 1927 Bogoljubov had the #1 in that calculation.
He won
Breslau, 1925 with Rubinstein, Nimzowitsch, Reti, Grünfeld, Tarrasch
(2nd) URS-ch04 Leningrad, 1925
Moscow, 1925 with Capablanca, Lasker, Tartakower, Marshall, Reti, Grünfeld, Rubinstein and some more famous
Berlin, 1926 with Rubinstein, Grünfeld, Spielmann
This means to that time he won against the strongest players of the world and his rating was calculated to #1 at the beginning of 1927.
Edit:
This is becoming more and more interesting. Bogoljubov seems to be an Ukrainian. Yukhym Dmytrovych Boholiubov is his Ukrainian name.
@@1234444rbi Hi. You delete your old post and then you look for the "fly in the ointment"?
Yes, you are correct. Botvinnik had the same points as Capablanca in Nottingham 1936. It seems I only looked at chessmetrics, where their performance is shown. And because of Botvinnik was higher rated in August 1936, Capa had the better performance. My fault.
But that doesn't change, that Capa outperformed all other players, if you sum it up. In May 1937 he was again the #1 ranked player because of his performance in the past. And Botvinnik didn't score enough in that period to be ranked #1 from May 1937 until July 1937.
Playing at Baden-Baden Baden-Baden was very lucrative for Bogoljubov 😀
9:23 Always repeat!
I LOVE THIS KEEP DOING IT
On ND5 the pretty variation is NxN (Hitting the white queen so there’s no time for C3) PxN RxP (no more fork) QA7! threatening QA8ch mating or winning the rook on H8 KD8 forced QB8ch BC8 NxCp ch winning the Queen
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Not too bad a defense he created, the Real One, not Bogus Indian Defense.
Can't be that great of a player if hers only and FM
Nimzo Indian played a lot of chess
Bogo didn't get the GM title until 1951. The Soviets blocked it on the pretense that he supported Hitler, when in fact he was cleared of this right after the war, and actually opposed Hitler as strongly as he safely could have. Denying the GM title to someone who played two world championship matches makes no sense. You might as well come out and say those matches were a joke, which is true, but you shouldn't say it.
Bogo was #4 in January 1929, after Capablanca, Alekhine and Nimzo. Giving him that first title shot wouldn't have been unreasonable if Alekhine hadn't been ducking Capablanca. The second match was played just for the money.
Ben, Bogo top 20??))) According to chessmetrics he was ranked as high as #1 in the world for a moment in 1927. That's suspicious, how he could be ahead of Alekhine and Capa, but not complitely weird, as he had a lot of very good tournament results. And he was clearly top 5-10 for most of his career.
Chessmetrics ratings are after the fact. Bogo was never #1 during his lifetime. Top 10, sure.
"when I win with White, it is because I have White... when I win with black, it is because I am Efin' Bogoljubov and I tell anyone who disagrees, to go Efim self!" 🤣
Would we go as far as to say Bogoljubov a great player? I think he’d have struggled against strong club players today. Also another re-upload, I saw this at least 5 years ago.
"...struggled against strong club players today"??
Blunder?? -27.56 centipawns
Now you're pushing it pal 🙄
Great players of the past, past included
Club players aren't beating Akiba Rubinstein. Ever.
@@12jswilson No one mentioned Rubi I was stating Bogo would struggle in 2023 at a weekend tourney. Personally I wish I was born with todays knowledge in Morphy’s time I’d sit in the cafe de la Regance all day and put the beat down on Kieseritzky 😁
Yawn, re-upload.
This guy's name looks made up
Nah, Ben finegold's a well known real person.
Truth hurts 😂
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