Savage Worlds Thundercats - Funko 2018 Michael's Modern Musings
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Michael gets a surprise package from TH-camr LioConvoy and finds Savage World Thundercats inside! Time for a review...
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I just watched a video the other day from a guy who purchases Amazon return items by the pallet. One of the items he showed from a box of returned toys was a Savage World Panthro, still on its card, with a leg resting on the bottom of the bubble. I'm happy to hear that the word is getting out about the quality control issues. I hope Funko fixes them because, like you said, they are one of the few companies that really understand nostalgia and what people want.
I've also seen a FEW of those horror themed ones with their legs popped off in Target. Drives me nuts. These Thundercats ones LOOK so freaking good.
"Modern musings" excellent concept, awesome to hear where you stand on modern stuff!👍🏽👍🏽
Reminds me of Centurions back when.
Everyone was missing a limb after a week.
Still better than Funko Pops.
Everything is better than funkopops
I hate how Funko can make things that actually look halfway decent (as well as legitimately good poseable figures like the Mega Man line)... but...
_they keep making POP FIGURES._
They sell. Sad reality
Re-watching some of your older videos now that the world is temporarily closed for business. I was definitely a kid who couldn't mix scales. Just couldn't do it.
I passed on these at Chicago's ToyCon back in November.Passed on Lion-o and Mumra.
Would love to see you cover the new Mego figures on a modern musings vid. I haven’t picked up any myself but if they redo superheroes or planet of the apes I’d be there all the way!
First time I saw these, Liono in the package, had his leg broken off. I was all Ohhhhh, Mum-Ra got to him early.
I parted out a Panthro from this line for a MOTU custom I made, can confirm...leg joints are brittle & broke very easily. -Dustin
I know you're doing the Inhumanoids soon, but please consider doing the Manglor toy line, those oozy slime castle figures!
I appreciate your Honesty, that's why I enjoy this channel so much!
I really dig these.
Thanks for the look into these! I have to admit, the sculpts look pretty good, but seeing that issue with the ball joint just disappoints. It reminds me of the Spawn figures from the mid and late 90's. Ithe concepts and designs felt so right for the source material, but the execution just fails when you get toys that break in the package, or fall apart as soon as you try to set it up or stage it for display.
A curse on Funko Pops.
I like that T-shirt. Where did you get it?
Just like the Batman hush line Harley Quinn. It's too bad they do look good
What do you think of the Masters of the universe classics line of newer figures?
That's such a shame that Funko can't put in the effort to make a solid product :-(
I can't wait for y'all to rip the Thundercats a new one again.
Which classic toylines was Chuck Norris: Karate Kommandos compatible with?
Arguably Karate Kid.
Rubbermaid trash cans.
I definitely agree with you about the Funko Pops, don't understand their POPularity. I certainly have seen some great things come from Funko though. Hopefully they get to a point to give Hasbro some competition, they're is just phoning it in.
When I got my Panthro his leg was off in the package. I figured I could simply warm the leg in boiling water and pop it back on. Nope. The ball broke right off the plastic is so soft. If I break another one I am going to try to convert it to reproduction Masters of the Universe bands.
I know Conan is 90s and the toys were mostly garbage, but I’d love to hear your take on the cartoons. It had a complete story arc. I know it couldn’t do the savagery of the original stories, but I think they were true to the vision. Just my opinion, since I bought it on Blu-ray lol.
I remember there were two Conan cartoons airing around the same time back then. There was Conan: The Adventurer and then there was another one where Conan was hanging out with a group of kids for some reason.
Your correct! I was talking about the original sans kids lol!
Well, considering how the Batman 66 line went, an extra hope should be that Funko even RELEASES wave 2.
Also, for anybody who doesn't somehow know, a hairdryer might help with the balljoint problem.
Can we get a Thundercats reboot on Netflix?
I was noticing quality issues on Amazon reviews and it made me hesitant because I love this idea but I’m not spending $15 for a toy that might break the moment I try to do anything with it
I bought a Lion-o one day after this video was releases
I’m depressed now.
I have the same problems with the Savage World Horror figures( Jason, Michael Myers, Pinhead) but strangely not with the Mortal Kombat figures. Something must have happened at the Factory. ??
From what I understand, there was a type of plastic that they used for the hip joints and it is a bit more unstable. They have noticed the issue, changed the plastic and are making new figures that should not have the same breakage issues.
So the legs " Funko" pop right off
Do a bio of Sunman toyline.
Michael, have you come across any of Zoloworld's Realm of the Underworld figures? Those will give you some high-quality, awesome, He-Man-style goodness. Pure hand candy.
I definitely don't plan on buying toys from Funko. Especially its known track record of poor quality in their toys. Thanks for pointing out those flaws in the Thundercats toys used for this video.
I originally wanted these and the MOTU vintage-looking figures as well so bad. Hearing this, as well as the QC issues people have had, especially with She-Ra, really disappointed me.
I had actually preordered these 4 figures because they looked awesome. And they were only £10.99 each. But then I read the reviews on Amazon and the quality issue, so I ended up cancelling my order and spending my money elsewhere.
By the way, what is your opinion on the rerelease of the Original He-Man figures or even Boss Flight Studios Bucky O’Hare line?
I am with you 100% on those POPs. They are stupid. They'll occasionally release some with dioramas like the Bespin Duel or Cantina and it pisses me off that it's not usable for a vintage figure display. Funko Pops are a plague. They are like Tribbles. And people buy that crap!!! It's like when a few years ago those atrocious "Date Movie" "Disaster Movie" kept churning out. And idiots kept watching them until I guess enough people wised up and realized they were stupid. Maybe that will happen soon with Pops. Then 30 years later there'll be a documentary about a landfill stuffed with nothing but Funko Pops.
OMG you're so right. Funko pops do suck.
As a thunder cats fan it’s a shame that the savage world figures were so brittle
Would the Funko Pops be more durable for playing with?
I can't think of anybody who would cry if the kids smashed them... :'D
I think I might dislike that liono. His feet? There's something off.
Was big fan of Centurions and Thunder Cats cartoon. I can't stand STATUES referred to as toys.
I'm such an old man, I watched the whole video, took it in, but my lasting take is Funko Pops suck. Which they do...so much.
Worse quality control than NECA and DC collectibles?? Lol
Xddddddd
Just thinking...what MODERN kid would buy these to play with anyway? Guys like US are buying them and putting them on a shelf. So who cares if they have issues when you try to play with them?
So you're content for companies to make crap so long as only adults buy them? You've missed the point entirely.
Joel McLaughlin they’re still toys, you should be able to do whatever you want with them, whether it’s play, posing or display.
pretty much anything Funko or Super 7 makes are cheap junk
Funko Pop sucks!
I'm a diehard Mr. Freeze fan so I got the figure they made of him for the DC Savage line. I INTENDED on keeping it carded, but the packaging was so destroyed I had to open it. I knew about the leg problem, so I just used a hair dryer to roll the ball joint so he'll at LEAST stand up. I agree 100% with you man... Funko could be doing some great stuff if they just focused more on the function alongside the form.
Those stumpy legs bug me, I think the line should be called "Thundercats with Rickets"
Yes. That's what's bugging me. I kept thinking it was the foot-calf.
yessss!!!!!!!stop with the pops I agree
Nice to know that I'm not alone with my opinion, Funko Pops suck! 5:32
My golden rule as a kid was never mix the toys of diffrent scales ..it wasnt rigth! LoL
So almost 40 years later, we discover that old toy companies could build better toys, even with advances in technology and manufacturing.
Yeah the reasons given nowadays are not consistent.
Thanks for the heads up on the quality control on these, I've almost pulled the trigger on them in my Amazon cart 59 times and am now glad I didn't. Speaking of scale issues between old toy lines, can anyone point me towards accessories that are compatible with the old Pirates of Dark Water figure line (weapons, etc)?
Watching this just reminds me how much I miss good toy lines like the MOTU. Looking back. That was a really good toy line. Going one step further. GIJoe was just plain awesome. In the 80s anyway. Before the Joes lost their way in the 90s they were a plastic legend among boys toys. Today. Walking through the toy aisle at Target and Walmart. Many modern toys just don’t have that little extra something, the spark, the tangible thing, that toy lines had in the 80s. Two exceptions to that today would be Lego and Hot Wheels. IMO those two still got it. I look at those two today and I think “yup that’s what I remember”. Those two brands still give me the feels. The rest... just seen like cheap... overpriced... poorly painted... plastic. IDK. I’d like to be proven wrong. OK. For example. I know Star Wars: The Black Series isn’t all bad. But the price is too much and the overall product selection is really ...meh. And believe me. I’m a total sucker for 80s toy nostalgia ...yet ...SW:TBS is just become ...so ...boring. So emotionally empty. SW:TBS. Black, like it’s soul.
I'm with you, I do not understand how or why people collect the useless abominations of Funko Pop's.
Meh. I don't hate anything that keeps branding alive. I do have great puzzlement over their collectible value.
Because they make the most delightful crunching sounds when you back over them with a car. :3
I have a few and it’s mainly just ‘cause they’re cute. But what I don’t understand is the prices some are willing to pay for them
I work for a job where I check community resources for people & bring people & resources. One such place I visited takes kids toys & hands them out at various events. In the overstock back room was several large tubs (cases) of Funko Pops (mostly Star Wars)- well over 200 of them. This was after a public event where they were given away to countless kids. To say nothing of the other toy, comic & collectible stores that will sell the new 1s for $1. So yeah, I'd say Funko goes a little overboard (even making them for cereal mascots?). Who is demanding the endless variety?
Id go with lack of imagination. But i did buy the tmnt classic ones. So im guilty.
they dont totally break. they pop off. yes funko needs to work on this.
He sent you a box of stuff from a property you HATE? What a douchebag!
All jokes aside, I'm glad you gave your thoughts! I may have to challenge you though on the LJN's line when it comes to figure-to-figure scaling though (we'll save that for another time).
Some other things to note from me of this line that a lot of people miss that I take issue with:
1. The character art for both Mumm-Ra and Slithe is from the 2011 cartoon. Likely taken off of Google images.
2. The logo on the belt isn't actually the proper ThunderCats symbol, but is instead an incorrect fan-vector found on Google images that got slapped on.
I agree with most of what you said here, but I like some of the Funko Pops. Keyword being some.
The thing is I like the concept of having the figures look like the original Masters of the Universe figures, I also like how they did the Masters of the universe characters in the three and three-quarter inch like the old Star Wars figures, and I can't tell you how grateful I am of the amount of money you saved me because of your reviews of these toys.
I mean I'm kicking myself because all of the toys I had as a kid or either lost or broken, so I don't want to get something brand-new that reminds me of those toys that's going to break as soon as I move its legs.
Haha....I loathe those Funko pops as well. That's good stuff.
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I have some friends who are major 80s fans and they collect Funko Pops in the horror genre and its a major head scratcher to me as what the thrill to collect them are. Just reminds me of junk. Just wondering out of curiousity is the Planet of the Apes TV series too early to make a review of?? It was put out via 1976 if I'm remembering correctly though I watched them on Sci-fi Channel in my teens and 20s.
It's a shame about the quality control, I really dug the idea. It's especially sad when you consider that He-Man toys were super tough when they originally came out. When I was a kid, you could beat the hell out of MotU figures and they'd take it. They were built to be played with. That's an edict sadly missing from too many modern toy lines, they're all so fragile they can hardly be played with.
I think many "toys" are no longer meant to be played with by kids, they're made to be bought and kept misb or mosc in some collector's cabinet or be displayed in a cabinet.
Hey, at least the QC issues of this line go well with Super7's MOTU vintage line!
Here kid, enjoyma toy from 30 years ago that still functions. Or this modern one that is broken in the package. Enjoy?
Great video, I've been hearing about these "Savage World" figures. I've heard of their "DC Heroes" and "Slasher Villain" lines, now this is kinda the first time I've heard of their "Thundercats" line. And I still have yet to check out the old cartoon or its 2011 revival, hell I know I'll be avoiding the upcoming "Thundercats Roar" series like the plague. But from what you said, it seems "Funko" is going a little too authentic with this line, what with the brittleness of these figures. I hope "Funko" does get the message in this video, and gets to work on improving the quality control, so these "He-Man-esque" figures will have a better lease on life.
I really like Savage Worlds. They're really cool. But Yes, they are brittle and QC is awful
Me too. But I seen a liono with a leg off in the pack recently.
I have a full set of Savage World Horror figs to go with my MotU Fright Zone which thus far I've left them on card. I had no idea about any QC issues with the legs.
Thanks for the leg up. ;)
Neca has the same problems. Their figures are highly detailed and look great in the package. But take them out and they fall apart easy. Not good for $30 figures.
It isn't just the breakages that are an issue with these. I've seen some sloppy paint applications on them as well. I bought only Lion-O, and I don't mess with his legs at all either. The legs on my copy do move, but I'm not taking any chances. I've decided to stick with Super 7's "Vintage" MOTU line of the same style "old school" 1980's 5.5 inch build but with the Filmation style. The 2-packs have QC issues. The 1st wave of single carded figures do as well, but not as bad. Just pop the leg back on or re-stap the chest harness. As for Thundercats, I'd rather see Mattel continue with the Classics line. Otherwise, I'm tasing on these Funko releases.
everything in this video is spot on.. funko is on the right track to giving us what we want ... and yes please stop with the sucky pops and dorbs
I beg of you retroblasting do a marvel show especially Spider-Man please the other 80’s Spidey cartoon please
Thundercats Redux? Where can I find out more about this?
Most interesting.
As Learherneck once noted in G. I. Joe Special Missions #4: "Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!"
At best, these Thundercats can be displayed.
I have the first wave and only pulled the trigger because the second wave was in the pipeline. Ordered mine from Big Bad Toy Store and spent the extra couple bucks to get the collector (white glove) packaging. I noticed once they arrived that two of the four figures had one of their legs popped off. Ugh! This poses a problem for MOC collectors. Anyways, the legs did pop right back on and I haven't had an issue but I also haven't played with them. Much like most collectors, they sit motionless on my shelf. Also, I too agree with you on the Funko Pops. I really see them as the Beanie Babies of this generation. Unfortunately, Funko makes a boat-load of cash on them and they'll only stop making those when the oil runs out. On a side note, LJN's Thundercats line paired great with Galoob's A-Team line.
In other words they're built for show but not to go
Michael, I agree with what you say.
That's not a production fault, it's Battle-Damage Joker! Although I'm not sure why Kenner isn't suing for the patent/TM infringement... Oh, wait - Kenner doesn't exist anymore.
Also funko dc prima l age / Savage wolrd hortor Icons 5.5 have his issue also weapon break easy...
My mumm-ra send to me had a popoff left arms... But i collect moc.. So i return it......,, can you not return brocken figures like this in the us?
I'd bet @toypolloi can fix it! 😁
Amen sir!
Granted qc is an issue, it seems like this should be an easy home repair now that they are in your possession. Can you pop off the legs after a nice soak in boiling water? If so, either sand a little off the peg or sand the leg hole. But again, if Funko had a modicum of qc, this wouldn't be an issue.
I picked up Lion-o and Panthro, and both of my figures are fine. but I saw a Lion-o missing his leg at a game stop last week. I've read somewhere that they addressed the problem on the DC figures but apparently not enough
Best line in the video is the last.
Now I see why some of these figures went on clearance.
Michael ! 05:32! I was minding my own business, eating a Girl Scout Cookie, which then almost came out of my nose... Don't DO that !!! : )
(...Well, DO that, but not while I'm eating cookies. Brilliant little edit). ; )
Your final words had me rolling, and I couldn't agree more.
I appreciate that you hate those stupid Funko POPS as much as me, worst thing to happening to "collecting" maybe ever! Your points are all well asserted here Michael - I agree with it. You're also correct that their ideas and are incredible good. The Primal Age figures and Batcave with the rideable Wolf accessory figure is really amazing. They even used translucent plastics and rubbers that remind me of the 90s - I think like you said they are close. Unfortunately, at Target those figures are like $11 for legs that pop off. Not worth it. Hopefully your message gets delivered to them. I'm still really tempted to collect the Primal Age line - it's so 80s/90s.
It's worse than you think. I tried to repair a Pathor today. I ended up breaking more plastic. The pelvis plastics are terrible. I had to used super glue to put the legs back together and now I can't move them...
Thank the maker! There's something GOOD on.
I think the "SIGH" is my favorite part. So much is being said there. So honest.
Buying these was my worst mistake, I am not even opening the rest and sadly I can't sell these at cost. Funko really screwed up
Is it true that Funko lost the rights to Masters of the Universe because of the Savage World lines?
No
So the Target Primal Age figures (and Primal Age wave 2 and Street Fighter) have legs can pop off in some cases but they DID go back and make the leg connectors out of a more durable plastic that avoids actual breakage.
So what did I do? I dissected Panthro and Mumm-Ra and swapped the leg connectors out with the new ones now that these figures are all sub $10.
I’m on the fence whether Slithe and Lion-O need it.
I DO think they made huge QC strides this year and wave 2 is worth a look. I’ve been told by a Funko employee that they took a beating on QC for 2018 figures. The leg connector was always supposed to be more durable and the factory for late 2018 figures went off specs.
He’d like to see wave 1 reissued with fixes but wave 2 sales will need to justify it with his bosses.
Did you guys switch cameras? Video quality looks extra crisp and HDish.....well done.
Thanks to this video, when i finally found some of these at gamestop a while back, i put them in hot water to prevent the legs snapping. Saved me from breaking the figure and gave me some cool figures to have on display.
I'm a new subscriber, so don't know the story, so i was wondering why you don't like Thundercats.
Man... you must have gotten a bad batch... i have both waves... opened up, tossed, played with, twisting and bending....not one thing broke....
thanks for letting me know about these issues Michael
The only 80s figures I can think of that could remotely be compatible with the original LJN ThunderCats line are Cops N' Crooks, The Centurions, Bravestar, and Remco's Rambo. It really was a mistake on LJN's part by not having them in the 5 and a half inch He-Man style articulation and scale.
I've managed to pick up the Savage World Jason Voorhees from their horror wave and Kitana from the Mortal Kombat wave. Both of which held up okay and I didn't seem to be having any trouble getting them to stand. Maybe, it was either by pure luck or I was being very careful with them. They are pretty sweet and I think I may pick up a few more in the future.
I got my nephew a Batman Batcave for his birthday that came with a sort’ve 3 and 3/4 inch scale Batman. I was hoping to get him a Joker, Penguin, or even just a random thug to play with. Found the Batman toys in the same scale as the one that it came with… but they were all variants of Batman!!! Why?! Give us some damn villains, Jesus!!!
When it came to Funko Pop figures, I went for the ones I truly wanted. I only own Pops of TMNT, Batman, Kenny Omega from NJPW and a few from Dragon Ball Z. Otherwise I stopped collecting those. Not a fan anymore. These Savage World Thundercats look like cool display pieces, despite the quality control issues you mentioned. I might get me a set, but not anytime soon. Thanks for sharing this.
Great review and excellent points, but I think we all know why Funko won't ever stop making the stupid Pops and why these figures are the way they are: money.
For whatever reason, people are buying the Pops and sales are what matter. It's not "Funko, stop making Pops" it's "People, stop buying Pops!" If people didnt buy them, Funko wouldn't keep making them.
And as far as these figures go, it's about making them as cheap as possible. "Who cares if they break? They bought them, the money changed hands so we're good. If they break, go buy another!" is the edict. Funko's argument will be that the price would double or triple if they produced quality which puts it out of the price range of kids. Even though most kids will have no idea about these characters, they're still the demographic for them. And let's face it, most adults aren't going to play with them the way kids do. As someone else pointed out, adults are just going to put them on a shelf, if they even open the packaging at all.