For the naysayers.. fanfiction is as a result of being inspired by someone's art. It doesn't replace or disrespect the original. Like or disrespect like 'sup to you.
I can't stop listening to this 😍 it's on my TH-cam playlist I've also shared it on my Facebook page as I love it that much and I also suggested my friends listen to the original 3 tales first coz the twist but you can easily just listen to this as a different story it's so beautiful and you never know it could help a James out there to change their mind before they go out and act on doing something stupid...I found it hard hitting to my heart I felt the choice being made! Well done again I don't mind at all how the song was made its clever and it makes me feel emotions... I am proud to be a Renegade I will always praise others on their Art and creativity i appreciate you thanks again for sharing this I am sending support, kindness, love and many blessings to you dear sweet friend xx I found you on Ren's rabbit hole fb page
awesome, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts! Yeah, it did take several hours of effort to make this (some of my other replies explain the process in more detail), so it wasn't just a "click" and "poof, song!" like some people might think, heheh. Ren is definitely inspiring and I love putting time and effort into creating something that can move other people, regardless of the tools used. That's so cool that someone linked this on the rabbit hole FB page
Love your alternate Universe. ❤ I believe every situation has multiple storylines to go on. Reality can be shocking bad, there is hope in your verses. Thanks for bringing this up.
Definitely. Glad you enjoyed it! Ren weaves such masterful stories with his music, it just lends itself to imagination and "what-if" scenarios. :) Thanks!
Wow that is a beautiful story it's very touching I love the chorus and the melody is stunning this hit me in the feels, I adore, respect and appreciate the person who made this ❤️ and the same goes for others who like to flip it and have fun, that's what Ren encourages us to do
love your alternate look at a life story , we all know one simple move to the left or right of our travels can take us down a new road . Life is swift , and painful and beautiful , we just need to live it . Just another renegade in life.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it, and yes he definitely is very inspirational. I hope he recovers quickly from his health issues just recently, we all need more Ren music. :)
This was absolutely beautiful! You should be very proud! I hope Ren sees this one day. This brought me to tears, having seen the tales so many times I couldn’t count and every time a little piece of me wishes it could end differently this time… thank you it is a beautiful tribute and an outstanding job! ❤
@@Renegade-x7x we can’t shy away from the darkness in the world or there will be no chance to fix it. For this reason I feel the story had to be that way. However, it is a beautiful thing to peer into a world that could be if we all came together instead of take from one another. Id like to think that a world like that could be possible. I think most of us would.
This is beautiful! I wish more of life were like this instead of our current reality! Thank you for sharing a glimmer of hope in a sometimes dark world!
sweet, thanks for the sub! Appreciate all the comments on here. Sending good thoughts to Ren to make a speedy recovery from his recent health maladies.
I love this alternative ending. It doesn’t take away from the original version but adds hope that can be different even when things seem destined for one path but a free right words can and do change reality. Beautiful
Thank you this is beautifully inspired… I think the light and darkness are so important to Ren and he would be glad to think possible Jenny and James were living in an alternative Universe far away from the pain.. please don’t listen to the negativity it’s typical of those particular participants… Really beautiful and lovely… thank you…🫶🏻
I wish you could do this for Violet, too. But the whole point of her story existing is to talk about a topic that needs to be discussed (and to explore how it contributed to generational trauma), so it almost feels like prettying-up her story would cheapen it, even if I desperately want her to have a better conclusion.
Absolutely STUNNING & so very beautiful! Thank you for creating such a sweet & happier retake. ❤️ It’s definitely going into my Ren Playlist! Much love from Worcester, MA USA 🫶🏻
A bit too generic, naive, twee and sickly seet for my tastes but... they're just my tastes. I'm sure most Renegades will love it! :) Unfortunately, I think if Ren had written a song like this, no one would be talking about it, never mind writing songs in response. Mind you, the charts are full of such fare, if that's your thing. It's just not mine and I prefer to be honest. As with anything, you can't please everybody but I'm sure this will please many and I commend you for making it! :)
Thanks, yeah I totally understand where you're coming from. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts! :) Yeah, Ren's music is definitely unique which is why it stands out so much from the standard mainstream stuff. Thanks!
i didn’t expect much when i hit play, too much bad fan art out there, but this is gorgeous. i love everything about it, and it made me cry happy tears for jenny and james ♥️
I’d like to see this saying more of it’s AI upfront so it doesn’t look like you’re trying to steal anything or let things out of the bag before they’re out
Thanks, I appreciate the comments. On all 4 videos I made I put that it was AI in the description and made sure it appeared above the "More" link to show more so it was obvious and people didn't have to expand the description to see that. Although I've only viewed the video on my PC, maybe it looks different and not as apparent when viewed on a phone? I just now moved the AI part into the first line of the description, thanks for the advice!
Its such a breather, so peaceful comforting, almost the opposite of the original, Ren makes it Chaotic violent, hopeless... and i really liked that but i like this version a bit more though... thank you Renegade.
I got so touched by this because ot was like myself in the past how often I met strangers in the night just beautiful , if Ren himself hears this knowing his humble heart I think hed reach out 2 u with a big smile ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ I saved this and shared it on it diservs its place next to them just for the fun
Thanks! I did play around with another story where they meet at a Ren concert, lol, and locked eyes and felt a connection and see themselves in each others' faces. Richard was also there, helping to reunite them. And "Fate" played a hand as well, nudging them all together. They both had pictures of their mother from their childhood, the same picture, and they brought out the photo when they met at Ren's concert and realized their connection. BUT, yeah, the story kinda fell apart in some places and I couldn't get all the details in under 4-minutes with limited verses and chorus, etc... but maybe I'll pursue that idea again sometime :). Anyhow, thanks! :)
This is so beautiful and creative ❤ As an alternate ending, such a cool and interesting parallel. Some forget that there is hope out there and this shines a light on those private moments between 2 ppl lost. It resonates w me bc ive experienced something like it. It by no means subtracts anything from the original tales and doesnt come off as a push to change it. A what if, is something we all think about. This was well thought out and beautfully executed. Bravo! 👏🌷💞
Was wondering where that one was gonna go for a minute! It thought they might be falling in love and have a whole new problem! LOL! Your voice is beautiful and whimsical.😊 That was the tale POV in a perfect world. 💔❤️🩹❤️
OMG!! I've been telling about anyone who will listen that I have found the modern day Bob Dylan in Ren.. an artist who can't be pigeonholed into a genre.. an artist who makes you think and stimulates necessary conversations.. I now think I've found the new Joan Baez!!! This was beautiful and brilliantly performed.. had a bit of a Eminem lose yourself in the moment flow.. but a wonderful kind and thoughtful vibe to it.. a beautiful alternative to this song.. it is a interesting way to look at it, perhaps had Jenny been a person who had got past that trauma, perhaps this would have been her response in that moment.. perhaps she'd have found that courage to speak to this boy she relates to far beyond their knowing at the time.. she breaks her silence like her mom did to save her and her brothers lives that night.. in breaking her silence she would also break the cycle and in doing so reaches James on a personal level.. I love this.. now by breaking that cycle she connects with him.. they have a conversation that gives them both a new start instead of having that moment end their story.. it instead gives them a new beginning.. breaking the cycle brought on by their parents.. wow.. just wow.. I am impressed I felt it compliments the original piece while still being its own amazing piece of art. Is this your song? I'm assuming it is.. whoever it is.. BROVO!!
LOL... feel a little foolish.. shows my old age that I didn't catch that it was AI.. but I still love the lyrics and I'm sure that you put in a lot of work and made most of these lyrics.. really like this.. Not quite sure how to take my reaction to the vocals... I mean.. should I be impressed that AI can sound so nice.. or be afraid that AI could fool me.. LOL.. EITHER WAY STILL REALLY ENJOYED THIS AND LOVE THE ART YOU CREATED HERE.. Great job.
Thank you for your comments, and for leaving your original comment as well :). No need to feel foolish at all! Your first response is genuine, regardless of how it was created, and yes I did put about 6 hours into this, going back and forth with multiple AI tools to create this, so it does have influence from me, it's not just clicking an AI button and posting the results without vetting what it generated :). Honestly, I'd say it's probably 75% AI, 25% my direction and input and influence. Anyhow, thanks again for your thoughts :). I'm 49 and trying to keep up with all the advances in tech and enjoying every minute of it, sounds like you're ready for that as well.
Thanks, just to be clear the voice is AI as the video description says but I did put a lot of effort into finding the right mood and feel for the song that matched the tone I wanted the song to have. I went thru about a dozen variations of the song and voice until this one turned out to be just what I was looking for. Glad you enjoyed the music, thanks for commenting! :)
Now THIS being covered by Ren and Chinchilla ... Such a beautiful counterpoint. If there was ever a live action drama of Jenny and Screech ... having this as an alternative ending... Same actors ... same set ... a "What if" an "Wouldn't it be nice if" ... something to say that whilst what is, it doesn't mean we have to have it like that, have to keep it like that. Beautiful work.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Yeah it would be super cool if it was a duet with Ren and Chinchilla, I love when they sing together!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!! :)
yep yep, it is indeed, though a human (me) spent about 4-5 hours working with the AI to fine-tune and tweak the generation to fit the outcome I wanted. :) Thanks for your comment!
Hi, I'm glad you liked it! It was cooperative effort with AI. The process went like this: I tell AI the premise for the story I want to tell, and it generates some lyrics. I go back and forth with it for about an hour, correcting it's inaccuracies and giving it more background story until it makes something that fits the narrative I want to convey. Then for the music, I prompt Suno for the mood and feel I want in the song. I went thru about a dozen different song generations, fine tuning my prompt until something fit the sound and vocals (AI, not me) that I wanted. There were some problems near the end of the song, so I had to regenerate the ending like 5 times, then splice together a few parts in an audio editor. The plop the video on top of it and make sure everything fades out properly at the end. Thanks for asking, I made sure that "AI Created" was in the description without needing to click the 'more' link as it's not my intention to fool anyone, but this did take some effort to make more than just letting AI do everything generically :).
Hi, glad you enjoyed the music! :) It was a revisionist process for the lyrics. GPT generated a BUNCH of lyrics and it often got the story WAY wrong, like thinking Violet was jenny's sister and stuff. I basically had to educate the AI on the backstory several times and tell it what was wrong factually with the lyrics a few times. Also, the AI kept wanting to make Jenny and Screech fall in love like Han Solo and Princess Leia, and that wasn't what I wanted so I had to ask it to regenerate a few verses to be more appropriate for the situation at hand. So that was basically the process for the lyrics. For the music I generated about 12 different songs and picked one that fit the mood I was after. The ending was glitched at first and I had to regenerate the ending about 5 times and then splice it together in an audio editor, then overlay the video so it aligned up and faded out at the same time. It was a bit of a process, lol, not just a click of a button and then done :). Thanks for commenting!!
@@Renegade-x7x Thank you and thank you for putting in the time to make it just as it should be. I'm a musician and I don't like AI music but this was good and now knowing that you had real influence on the final product makes it even better. I have a Ren tribute song also that I worked on with a fellow Renegade called "The Ren Effect" check it out if you get a chance. I like what you made. Keep it up! th-cam.com/video/MKHCFKPgsvE/w-d-xo.html
It's very beautiful and it's very good, but it's like trying to duplicate a Picasso Ren worked very hard on what he does and you kind of stole from him in a way. If you think about it, I mean, you are very good and you should be your own music and don't piggyback other people. I love to hear something original from you.
Thanks a lot, glad you liked it! I never thought to put it anywhere besides TH-cam, lol. However, I just tried to upload it to Spotify but it seems they don't allow individual users to upload, you have to get a Music Distributor to do it on your behalf, and that sounds kinda complicated so, sorry, no Spotify for now, but I really appreciate you asking and viewing, thanks :)
The point is to explore other possibilities with the story. AI provides ideas, various lyrics, I give it feedback and background information, it generates ideas based on the plot I want it to tell. Then I find the right mood of melody and genre to fit the lyrics properly with the rhythm and sound I want. I toss it all into a waveform editor and spliced together 3 different sections from multiple generations of a song. I toss out some parts that were generated, then add fade-out effects. Then generate multiple thumbnails, directing the AI to try different angles until I get one I feel is appropriate. Toss that into photoshop and add the title and some text effects. Then export the Video from SUNO and put it into a video editor and mute the original audio so I can overlap the spliced together track I put together earlier. Then add fade-out effects to the video to coincide with the audio track. So, it's not "just" AI :). Thanks for comment though, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts!
Yep, just like the description says! :) It still took some effort though, here, I'll copy and paste my explanation from another comment so you can see the process: "It was a revisionist process for the lyrics. GPT generated a BUNCH of lyrics and it often got the story WAY wrong, like thinking Violet was jenny's sister and stuff. I basically had to educate the AI on the backstory several times and tell it what was wrong factually with the lyrics a few times. Also, the AI kept wanting to make Jenny and Screech fall in love like Han Solo and Princess Leia, and that wasn't what I wanted so I had to ask it to regenerate a few verses to be more appropriate for the situation at hand. So that was basically the process for the lyrics. For the music I generated about 12 different songs and picked one that fit the mood I was after. The ending was glitched at first and I had to regenerate the ending about 5 times and then splice it together in an audio editor, then overlay the video so it aligned up and faded out at the same time. It was a bit of a process, lol, not just a click of a button and then done :)." Thanks for your comment, I hope you enjoyed the song at least :).
Your second sentence is completely true, the original is perfect on it's own. Variations of a story can co-exist in the same universe on their own with no effect on each other. Mine's just an inspired derivative, thanks to Ren's inspirational music/art catalogue. It's just artistic exploration and imagination, that's all. I appreciate your comment, thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
@@Renegade-x7xi agree. In the same way that fan fiction does not detract from the original cannon it is derived from... this is just meant to provide an alternate universe option that is in some ways still tragic...While yes, Jenny may be slightly more assertive in this version... it is still sad that James admits he "used to have dreams" but he doesnt vow to leave his life on the streets, he doesn't find out Jenny is his sister and they life happily ever after. He gets one mild form of redemption and that spared his life and keeps Richard from having to take the life of a young boy that night.
Thanks for your comment, I would love to hear your thoughts on what parts you didn't like and why it was bad and how I can improve things next time! I put about 6 hours into this and am always looking for ways to improve, so any feedback would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks!
@@Renegade-x7x It sounds like a generic Suno song. The melody sounds uninspired and the lyrics remind me of a country pop song written by children. I'm not fond of fan fiction to start with honestly, especially when it's sort of rewriting such a masterpiece. It's the total opposite of everything the original is. The original is extremely well written and performed, while this is not, and not even performed, just generated. I have been playing around with both Suno and Udio and I have a hard time understanding how this could have taken 6 hours. If you had written this, both the lyrics and composed the melody and chord progression yourself, I wouldn't have said anything, but I know what goes into making these AI songs as well as how it is to write, record and produce music from nothing. Using Suno and ChatGPT isn't making music and most musicians does not appreciate AI made music. I always feel bad when criticizing other peoples work, but when I know it's made by AI, I don't mind. Remember, this isn't your song, only your prompts. Prompts based on other peoples work even. I hope that helped!
Fair enough, I appreciate your detailed review. The reason it took hours is because of the revising of the lyrics that GPT kept getting wrong, and regeneration of music and editing. GPT seems to have 'some' awareness of the song and it's story, but it made a lot of factual mistakes on the characters and their relationships and kept trying to throw Violet into the mix, so I had to give it the backstory of the tale and more details until it properly "understood" the original tale and the dynamics of the relationships. Suno is pretty fun to play around with, but yeah I did have to generate about 12 different songs until one "felt" appropriate for the story, and even then it exceeded the 4-minute limit so the ending was cut-off which was a real bummer, so I had to regenerate the last 20 seconds about 5 times until one matched closely, then go into Audacity and try to line up the track properly and overlay the last little bit, then slow-down-and-extend the last bit so it had time to fade out properly and not just cut off sharply. And the video was only 4 minutes, so a tiny bit of editing on the end to get the audio and video to fade out together properly. The thumbnail is AI of course, with the text being done in Paint.net (get program for simple tasks). So that was the process and why it took a few hours over the course of 2 nights to put it all together. I made sure to put that it was AI created in the description (on all 4 songs), above the fold (and moved to the first line last week) so it was clear right off the bat, though I didn't realize until just a few nights ago that mobile users don't see the description at all, so I moved 'AI' into the title a few days ago. Anyhow, thanks again for your more detailed feedback, I appreciate it. have a groovy day!
This was absolutely beautiful!
Like Ren said, "It's funny how small altercations can define who we are"
He said altercations but you altered it 😉
@@sammyd8860 I think autocorrect might have helped with that 😀 Thanks for catching it!
For the naysayers.. fanfiction is as a result of being inspired by someone's art. It doesn't replace or disrespect the original. Like or disrespect like 'sup to you.
This is beautiful, thankyou for sharing
Beautifully done!! Wow I hope Ren sees this amazing take. 🙏❤️
I can't stop listening to this 😍 it's on my TH-cam playlist I've also shared it on my Facebook page as I love it that much and I also suggested my friends listen to the original 3 tales first coz the twist but you can easily just listen to this as a different story it's so beautiful and you never know it could help a James out there to change their mind before they go out and act on doing something stupid...I found it hard hitting to my heart I felt the choice being made!
Well done again I don't mind at all how the song was made its clever and it makes me feel emotions...
I am proud to be a Renegade I will always praise others on their Art and creativity i appreciate you thanks again for sharing this I am sending support, kindness, love and many blessings to you dear sweet friend xx
I found you on Ren's rabbit hole fb page
awesome, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts! Yeah, it did take several hours of effort to make this (some of my other replies explain the process in more detail), so it wasn't just a "click" and "poof, song!" like some people might think, heheh. Ren is definitely inspiring and I love putting time and effort into creating something that can move other people, regardless of the tools used. That's so cool that someone linked this on the rabbit hole FB page
“REN do you”
Love your alternate Universe. ❤ I believe every situation has multiple storylines to go on. Reality can be shocking bad, there is hope in your verses. Thanks for bringing this up.
Definitely. Glad you enjoyed it! Ren weaves such masterful stories with his music, it just lends itself to imagination and "what-if" scenarios. :) Thanks!
Very emotional. Cleverly and lovingly written. Thank you for this.
❤
I absolutely don’t loose you! Me ❤
Wow that is a beautiful story it's very touching I love the chorus and the melody is stunning this hit me in the feels,
I adore, respect and appreciate the person who made this ❤️ and the same goes for others who like to flip it and have fun, that's what Ren encourages us to do
it's ai
@@NightcoreAkumaand?
I really enjoyed that, nice job indeed :)
love your alternate look at a life story , we all know one simple move to the left or right of our travels can take us down a new road . Life is swift , and painful and beautiful , we just need to live it . Just another renegade in life.
Thank you for all your hard work putting this piece together. It was a beautiful alternate path you chose for them. 💖
Beautiful retake!❤❤
That was beautiful ❤️
This is amazing, thank you.
Ren is so inspirational! Not sure why but really gives me Hamilton vibes.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it, and yes he definitely is very inspirational. I hope he recovers quickly from his health issues just recently, we all need more Ren music. :)
This was absolutely beautiful! You should be very proud! I hope Ren sees this one day. This brought me to tears, having seen the tales so many times I couldn’t count and every time a little piece of me wishes it could end differently this time… thank you it is a beautiful tribute and an outstanding job! ❤
thanks
@@Renegade-x7x we can’t shy away from the darkness in the world or there will be no chance to fix it. For this reason I feel the story had to be that way. However, it is a beautiful thing to peer into a world that could be if we all came together instead of take from one another. Id like to think that a world like that could be possible. I think most of us would.
Do you mean Hamilton Ontario? If so I totally agree!
Wowwwwww thank you, beautiful 🥰
On repeat, thank you it is really beautiful
halo KinCreator - This is beautiful a tribute and homage , much Care - Gratitude🎵💜
Thank you 🎵 I appreciate your comment and I'm glad you enjoyed it :) 💜
God this made me so emotional I nearly cried ❤
This is absolutely beautiful ❤🥺
😢I was impressed. Thank you. I can't express this feeling well in English. Your kindness came through❤
Love seeing Ren's music give inspiration to more awesome music ❤
Holy crap this is absolutely beautiful I hope Ren sees this one day 🤍
You must be proud of this. A very creative piece. I think Ren would appreciate it. Good job.👍
This is beautiful! I wish more of life were like this instead of our current reality! Thank you for sharing a glimmer of hope in a sometimes dark world!
Real nice! thanks for sharing and a new sub
sweet, thanks for the sub! Appreciate all the comments on here. Sending good thoughts to Ren to make a speedy recovery from his recent health maladies.
This was excellent and goes along with the Ren’s song beautifully 👍
Amazing retake. So good.
Wow, i love this…. Hope REN sees and comments!
Wow!!! Very beautiful!!! Thanks
I love this alternative ending. It doesn’t take away from the original version but adds hope that can be different even when things seem destined for one path but a free right words can and do change reality. Beautiful
Love, love, love this
🔥🔥🔥
Thank you this is beautifully inspired… I think the light and darkness are so important to Ren and he would be glad to think possible Jenny and James were living in an alternative Universe far away from the pain.. please don’t listen to the negativity it’s typical of those particular participants… Really beautiful and lovely… thank you…🫶🏻
❤❤❤❤❤
Absolutely Magical thank you xx
Love this ❤
Sitting here in tears. Such a beautiful alternate universe. Thank you!
I appreciate your words very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it,
Amazing! You killed that!
I wonder if he's seen this.
I wish you could do this for Violet, too. But the whole point of her story existing is to talk about a topic that needs to be discussed (and to explore how it contributed to generational trauma), so it almost feels like prettying-up her story would cheapen it, even if I desperately want her to have a better conclusion.
Yessss
Absolutely STUNNING & so very beautiful! Thank you for creating such a sweet & happier retake. ❤️ It’s definitely going into my Ren Playlist! Much love from Worcester, MA USA 🫶🏻
❤ Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it so much!! Much love returned to you in Worcester, from here in Medford, Oregon! :)
That was so effin beautiful! ❤
This is really good. I kept telling myself to click on the next ren react and i couldnt. It held me. And made me cry. Stunning. ❤❤❤
A bit too generic, naive, twee and sickly seet for my tastes but... they're just my tastes. I'm sure most Renegades will love it! :)
Unfortunately, I think if Ren had written a song like this, no one would be talking about it, never mind writing songs in response. Mind you, the charts are full of such fare, if that's your thing. It's just not mine and I prefer to be honest. As with anything, you can't please everybody but I'm sure this will please many and I commend you for making it! :)
Thanks, yeah I totally understand where you're coming from. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts! :) Yeah, Ren's music is definitely unique which is why it stands out so much from the standard mainstream stuff. Thanks!
it made by ai
@@NightcoreAkuma It says that right in the description of the video.
i didn’t expect much when i hit play, too much bad fan art out there, but this is gorgeous. i love everything about it, and it made me cry happy tears for jenny and james ♥️
this was really good thanks
Woow Dit is echt prachtig zowel de tekst alsook je stem. Hoop veel meer van je te horen. Blijf er al even in herhaling naar luisteren.
I’d like to see this saying more of it’s AI upfront so it doesn’t look like you’re trying to steal anything or let things out of the bag before they’re out
Thanks, I appreciate the comments. On all 4 videos I made I put that it was AI in the description and made sure it appeared above the "More" link to show more so it was obvious and people didn't have to expand the description to see that. Although I've only viewed the video on my PC, maybe it looks different and not as apparent when viewed on a phone? I just now moved the AI part into the first line of the description, thanks for the advice!
Woah ❤ ❤❤
Its such a breather, so peaceful comforting, almost the opposite of the original, Ren makes it Chaotic violent, hopeless... and i really liked that but i like this version a bit more though... thank you Renegade.
Thanks so much,
Omg - what a beautiful turnaround - so talented❤️✨
It's AI generated.
Absolutely beautiful ❤
Did you make me cry?!? You made me cry!! 😭 OMG, this is so wonderful. ❤
Awesome! Loved it.
This is beautiful 🫶
This is beautiful got me in tears,love it ❤❤❤
Beautiful ✨✨
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Absolutely beautiful ❤️
What a great idea....yin and yang 🔥
this is beautiful
I got so touched by this because ot was like myself in the past how often I met strangers in the night just beautiful , if Ren himself hears this knowing his humble heart I think hed reach out 2 u with a big smile ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I saved this and shared it on it diservs its place next to them just for the fun
That..... was really good...
Was kinda hoping they'd find out they were related, but very nice work
Thanks! I did play around with another story where they meet at a Ren concert, lol, and locked eyes and felt a connection and see themselves in each others' faces. Richard was also there, helping to reunite them. And "Fate" played a hand as well, nudging them all together. They both had pictures of their mother from their childhood, the same picture, and they brought out the photo when they met at Ren's concert and realized their connection. BUT, yeah, the story kinda fell apart in some places and I couldn't get all the details in under 4-minutes with limited verses and chorus, etc... but maybe I'll pursue that idea again sometime :). Anyhow, thanks! :)
@Renegade-x7x sooo . . . Alternative universe. . . 3 parts
Lovely ❤
🔥💪
This is so beautiful and creative ❤
As an alternate ending, such a cool and interesting parallel.
Some forget that there is hope out there and this shines a light on those private moments between 2 ppl lost. It resonates w me bc ive experienced something like it.
It by no means subtracts anything from the original tales and doesnt come off as a push to change it. A what if, is something we all think about.
This was well thought out and beautfully executed. Bravo! 👏🌷💞
My god this is fucking beautiful. Chopping onions. 🐷🦍⚘️🙏✨️🔥🎸
this. is tooooooo good
Beautiful ❤❤
Nice version! ❤
I love it! ✨🥰✨
I think I like these stories better
Was wondering where that one was gonna go for a minute! It thought they might be falling in love and have a whole new problem! LOL!
Your voice is beautiful and whimsical.😊 That was the tale POV in a perfect world. 💔❤️🩹❤️
It is not their voice, it is generated by an ai website called "suno"
@@NightcoreAkumait was stated in the title...
Nice
This was beautiful 💕🥹
OMG!! I've been telling about anyone who will listen that I have found the modern day Bob Dylan in Ren.. an artist who can't be pigeonholed into a genre.. an artist who makes you think and stimulates necessary conversations.. I now think I've found the new Joan Baez!!! This was beautiful and brilliantly performed.. had a bit of a Eminem lose yourself in the moment flow.. but a wonderful kind and thoughtful vibe to it.. a beautiful alternative to this song.. it is a interesting way to look at it, perhaps had Jenny been a person who had got past that trauma, perhaps this would have been her response in that moment.. perhaps she'd have found that courage to speak to this boy she relates to far beyond their knowing at the time.. she breaks her silence like her mom did to save her and her brothers lives that night.. in breaking her silence she would also break the cycle and in doing so reaches James on a personal level.. I love this.. now by breaking that cycle she connects with him.. they have a conversation that gives them both a new start instead of having that moment end their story.. it instead gives them a new beginning.. breaking the cycle brought on by their parents.. wow.. just wow.. I am impressed I felt it compliments the original piece while still being its own amazing piece of art. Is this your song? I'm assuming it is.. whoever it is.. BROVO!!
LOL... feel a little foolish.. shows my old age that I didn't catch that it was AI.. but I still love the lyrics and I'm sure that you put in a lot of work and made most of these lyrics.. really like this.. Not quite sure how to take my reaction to the vocals... I mean.. should I be impressed that AI can sound so nice.. or be afraid that AI could fool me.. LOL.. EITHER WAY STILL REALLY ENJOYED THIS AND LOVE THE ART YOU CREATED HERE.. Great job.
Thank you for your comments, and for leaving your original comment as well :). No need to feel foolish at all! Your first response is genuine, regardless of how it was created, and yes I did put about 6 hours into this, going back and forth with multiple AI tools to create this, so it does have influence from me, it's not just clicking an AI button and posting the results without vetting what it generated :). Honestly, I'd say it's probably 75% AI, 25% my direction and input and influence. Anyhow, thanks again for your thoughts :). I'm 49 and trying to keep up with all the advances in tech and enjoying every minute of it, sounds like you're ready for that as well.
RABID WHIRLED PEA CEEEEEE WHIRLED IN NO PEACE SUKS[N THIS KNIGHED ERIS PLACE DEAR WORLD HEAR ME I AM SO SO SO SAD
Lovely voice ❤️
Thanks, just to be clear the voice is AI as the video description says but I did put a lot of effort into finding the right mood and feel for the song that matched the tone I wanted the song to have. I went thru about a dozen variations of the song and voice until this one turned out to be just what I was looking for. Glad you enjoyed the music, thanks for commenting! :)
Now THIS being covered by Ren and Chinchilla ... Such a beautiful counterpoint. If there was ever a live action drama of Jenny and Screech ... having this as an alternative ending... Same actors ... same set ... a "What if" an "Wouldn't it be nice if" ... something to say that whilst what is, it doesn't mean we have to have it like that, have to keep it like that.
Beautiful work.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Yeah it would be super cool if it was a duet with Ren and Chinchilla, I love when they sing together!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!! :)
Beautiful poignant ,
This is A.I. huh😂😭😭😭
yep yep, it is indeed, though a human (me) spent about 4-5 hours working with the AI to fine-tune and tweak the generation to fit the outcome I wanted. :) Thanks for your comment!
This is beautiful, did you write this? Is it you singing?
Hi, I'm glad you liked it! It was cooperative effort with AI. The process went like this: I tell AI the premise for the story I want to tell, and it generates some lyrics. I go back and forth with it for about an hour, correcting it's inaccuracies and giving it more background story until it makes something that fits the narrative I want to convey. Then for the music, I prompt Suno for the mood and feel I want in the song. I went thru about a dozen different song generations, fine tuning my prompt until something fit the sound and vocals (AI, not me) that I wanted. There were some problems near the end of the song, so I had to regenerate the ending like 5 times, then splice together a few parts in an audio editor. The plop the video on top of it and make sure everything fades out properly at the end. Thanks for asking, I made sure that "AI Created" was in the description without needing to click the 'more' link as it's not my intention to fool anyone, but this did take some effort to make more than just letting AI do everything generically :).
I know the music and singing is AI but did you write the lyrics? If so well done.
Hi, glad you enjoyed the music! :) It was a revisionist process for the lyrics. GPT generated a BUNCH of lyrics and it often got the story WAY wrong, like thinking Violet was jenny's sister and stuff. I basically had to educate the AI on the backstory several times and tell it what was wrong factually with the lyrics a few times. Also, the AI kept wanting to make Jenny and Screech fall in love like Han Solo and Princess Leia, and that wasn't what I wanted so I had to ask it to regenerate a few verses to be more appropriate for the situation at hand. So that was basically the process for the lyrics. For the music I generated about 12 different songs and picked one that fit the mood I was after. The ending was glitched at first and I had to regenerate the ending about 5 times and then splice it together in an audio editor, then overlay the video so it aligned up and faded out at the same time. It was a bit of a process, lol, not just a click of a button and then done :). Thanks for commenting!!
@@Renegade-x7x Thank you and thank you for putting in the time to make it just as it should be. I'm a musician and I don't like AI music but this was good and now knowing that you had real influence on the final product makes it even better. I have a Ren tribute song also that I worked on with a fellow Renegade called "The Ren Effect" check it out if you get a chance. I like what you made. Keep it up! th-cam.com/video/MKHCFKPgsvE/w-d-xo.html
It's very beautiful and it's very good, but it's like trying to duplicate a Picasso Ren worked very hard on what he does and you kind of stole from him in a way. If you think about it, I mean, you are very good and you should be your own music and don't piggyback other people. I love to hear something original from you.
I appreciate that feedback, thank you. I do have originals, I will try to post them sometime :).
Wow!! This was shared in the Rabbit Hole! Now I'm crying! Is there any chance that this is available on Spotify?
Thanks a lot, glad you liked it! I never thought to put it anywhere besides TH-cam, lol. However, I just tried to upload it to Spotify but it seems they don't allow individual users to upload, you have to get a Music Distributor to do it on your behalf, and that sounds kinda complicated so, sorry, no Spotify for now, but I really appreciate you asking and viewing, thanks :)
its just AI, whats the point
The point is to explore other possibilities with the story. AI provides ideas, various lyrics, I give it feedback and background information, it generates ideas based on the plot I want it to tell. Then I find the right mood of melody and genre to fit the lyrics properly with the rhythm and sound I want. I toss it all into a waveform editor and spliced together 3 different sections from multiple generations of a song. I toss out some parts that were generated, then add fade-out effects. Then generate multiple thumbnails, directing the AI to try different angles until I get one I feel is appropriate. Toss that into photoshop and add the title and some text effects. Then export the Video from SUNO and put it into a video editor and mute the original audio so I can overlap the spliced together track I put together earlier. Then add fade-out effects to the video to coincide with the audio track.
So, it's not "just" AI :). Thanks for comment though, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts!
Would ren approve this ai shit?
I hope some day to find out the answer to that when he heals up :). thanks for sharing your opinion, I appreciate seeing all perspectives.
Thats so ai 😂😂
Yep, just like the description says! :) It still took some effort though, here, I'll copy and paste my explanation from another comment so you can see the process: "It was a revisionist process for the lyrics. GPT generated a BUNCH of lyrics and it often got the story WAY wrong, like thinking Violet was jenny's sister and stuff. I basically had to educate the AI on the backstory several times and tell it what was wrong factually with the lyrics a few times. Also, the AI kept wanting to make Jenny and Screech fall in love like Han Solo and Princess Leia, and that wasn't what I wanted so I had to ask it to regenerate a few verses to be more appropriate for the situation at hand. So that was basically the process for the lyrics. For the music I generated about 12 different songs and picked one that fit the mood I was after. The ending was glitched at first and I had to regenerate the ending about 5 times and then splice it together in an audio editor, then overlay the video so it aligned up and faded out at the same time. It was a bit of a process, lol, not just a click of a button and then done :)." Thanks for your comment, I hope you enjoyed the song at least :).
i do not understand why you would want to change The Tale of Jenny and Screech .
As a peace of art its perfect in its original form
Your second sentence is completely true, the original is perfect on it's own. Variations of a story can co-exist in the same universe on their own with no effect on each other. Mine's just an inspired derivative, thanks to Ren's inspirational music/art catalogue. It's just artistic exploration and imagination, that's all. I appreciate your comment, thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
@@Renegade-x7xi agree. In the same way that fan fiction does not detract from the original cannon it is derived from... this is just meant to provide an alternate universe option that is in some ways still tragic...While yes, Jenny may be slightly more assertive in this version... it is still sad that James admits he "used to have dreams" but he doesnt vow to leave his life on the streets, he doesn't find out Jenny is his sister and they life happily ever after. He gets one mild form of redemption and that spared his life and keeps Richard from having to take the life of a young boy that night.
This is really bad.
Thanks for your comment, I would love to hear your thoughts on what parts you didn't like and why it was bad and how I can improve things next time! I put about 6 hours into this and am always looking for ways to improve, so any feedback would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks!
@@Renegade-x7x It sounds like a generic Suno song. The melody sounds uninspired and the lyrics remind me of a country pop song written by children.
I'm not fond of fan fiction to start with honestly, especially when it's sort of rewriting such a masterpiece. It's the total opposite of everything the original is. The original is extremely well written and performed, while this is not, and not even performed, just generated.
I have been playing around with both Suno and Udio and I have a hard time understanding how this could have taken 6 hours.
If you had written this, both the lyrics and composed the melody and chord progression yourself, I wouldn't have said anything, but I know what goes into making these AI songs as well as how it is to write, record and produce music from nothing. Using Suno and ChatGPT isn't making music and most musicians does not appreciate AI made music.
I always feel bad when criticizing other peoples work, but when I know it's made by AI, I don't mind. Remember, this isn't your song, only your prompts. Prompts based on other peoples work even.
I hope that helped!
Fair enough, I appreciate your detailed review. The reason it took hours is because of the revising of the lyrics that GPT kept getting wrong, and regeneration of music and editing. GPT seems to have 'some' awareness of the song and it's story, but it made a lot of factual mistakes on the characters and their relationships and kept trying to throw Violet into the mix, so I had to give it the backstory of the tale and more details until it properly "understood" the original tale and the dynamics of the relationships. Suno is pretty fun to play around with, but yeah I did have to generate about 12 different songs until one "felt" appropriate for the story, and even then it exceeded the 4-minute limit so the ending was cut-off which was a real bummer, so I had to regenerate the last 20 seconds about 5 times until one matched closely, then go into Audacity and try to line up the track properly and overlay the last little bit, then slow-down-and-extend the last bit so it had time to fade out properly and not just cut off sharply. And the video was only 4 minutes, so a tiny bit of editing on the end to get the audio and video to fade out together properly. The thumbnail is AI of course, with the text being done in Paint.net (get program for simple tasks). So that was the process and why it took a few hours over the course of 2 nights to put it all together. I made sure to put that it was AI created in the description (on all 4 songs), above the fold (and moved to the first line last week) so it was clear right off the bat, though I didn't realize until just a few nights ago that mobile users don't see the description at all, so I moved 'AI' into the title a few days ago.
Anyhow, thanks again for your more detailed feedback, I appreciate it. have a groovy day!
screech already had a gf tho this dont feel right but nice ai remake
Screech’s girlfriend was with Patrick that night, but they where too scared of Screech to tell him.
@@7blokethat is what I always thought too
This is absolutely beautiful ❤🥺