Dud Or Stud? Does The New 2021 Dodge Durango Tow N Go Ace The World's Toughest Towing Test?
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Awesome content guys. Best on TH-cam.
Did that exhaust sound amazing at the start or just me? Damn...
Tow n go comes with a crazy sick exhaust system , they sound better than stock SRT durangos
I think the Durango still looks great, even though this platform and basic design is like 10 years old now.
Still using Mercedes platform.
I would prefer for it to have more tire and maybe set just a slight bit higher. But still I think it done pretty good overall.Especially for a unibody crossover. To me for a unibody crossover to compete with BOF SUV in the towing dept is pretty impressive.
And still lookin fine 👌
Test the Hellcat version too 🙏🏻
Oh my gosh, I thought this was the hell at one! I'm so disappointed now. Hell cat everything
Most people don't care about brake taps and never attempt to maintain 60 mph when climbing mountains. Personally, I hit the gas before I hit the grade and get as much speed up as possible before I hit the steepest grade, pretty simple. Keep the engine and trans cool and you are as good as gold.
You need to get the Hellcat Durango towing on the Ike
I don’t get the dodge reliability jokes, I’ve had my 16 ram hemi for 4.5 years and it’s towed from Vegas to Dallas, Dallas to n. Carolina and back, Dallas to Little Rock and then OKC and back...and the only thing it’s been to dealership for was the exhaust manifold bolts and 2 recalls that were covered. 🤷🏽♂️
Welcome to the internet where theres many immature "adults" that are still living in the '80s and '90s even though its 2020. Needless to say, all brands across the board are having reliability issues in this day and age.
I've been driving chryslers since '08 and they've been good, fun vehicles. The only negative things I can say about these vehicles is that they're thirsty vehicles, my wifes and my '04 durango (5.7l v8 @ 162k miles) and '05 sebring (2.4l i4 @ 148k miles) does burn some oil, and my '10 dakota (3.7l v6 @ 66k miles) has minor electrical issues (factory remote start, tpms). That said, everything else on these rigs are solid. :)
my 13 ram 1500 hemi I've done I-80west doner pass,I-15 from san berandio on the way to Vegas .I8 west imperial co to san Diego co at least 3 crossings of I10 ,I40 new Mexico. in summer and my oil temp never got over 244-245
dodge has always used engines that were pretty reliable, and modern cars are all pretty good. if someone takes care of their vehicle regardless of make or model it should last a reasonable amount of time and miles.
@@Kingswood7189 I agree, I have a 2004 Durango and It has 30k miles and I towed for most of it, in my opinion it's been quite reliable as it only needed 3 engine swaps, that's why I only buy dodge cars.
@@HJ-cm5er 3 engine swaps? All my vehicles have the original powertrains in them.
Gotta love a Hemi! Thanks as always Andre, another thorough and entertaining review.
For towing I understand the comparison to the Tahoe but in reality the Durango is more slotted to complete with the telluride and palisade. It is a 3 row midsize suv and not a full size suv.
It is full size suv it has more towing capacity than Tahoe or Suburban. Might not be body on frame but it has more capacity. Those midsize suv are more comparable to minivans.
It‘s smaller next to a Tahoe or Expedition. A Ford Explorer has about the same size. I like the Durango a lot. Personally I am a V8 guy but I think they would get more sales if they offer the EcoDiesel in it too. Thought those all kill/poison themselves with the Emissions Stuff (mainly Exhaust Gas Return EGR) but met surprisingly many happy EcoDiesel Ram owners.
You wanna compare a Durango that tow 8700lbs to a palissade/telluride that tow 5000…. Why ?
@@akunamatata4266 That‘s why I like the Durango more then similar sized competitors except the maybe the german SUVs (Dodge still uses the older ML Platform if I’m not mistaken). Size wise, yes, i would compare the Durango not to a Tahoe or Ford Expedtition but more to the Explorer, Palisade and Telluride.
@@akunamatata4266 guess you are to ignorant to comprehend please move on to cartoons.
@7:57 that exhaust sounds soooooo good
I would love to see a comparison between this 5.7 hemi, the 6.4 and the hellcat! Anyway, love the videos!
Hell cats are 6.2s
@@square348apple3 try reading it again but slowly
Nearly 300 degrees for the oil temp? Wow that seems insane, I remember towing 8500lbs with my old Ram 5.7l and watching the oil hit over 250 but 293 degrees is crazy.
That's cause the new oil is thinner than water
A quality *conventional motor oil will tolerate oil sump temperatures of up to 250 degrees, but starts breaking down over 275 degrees. 293 degrees, if accurate, is concerning.
@@glenparks5175 true but more than anything it seems like it is lacking an effective oil cooler especially with the coolant only being 230
Yea sounds like they didnt do there homework little bit bigger oil cooler would have helped, I know my 06 ram Cummins has got coolers out the but, and I rarely ever seen anything overheating towing from coast to coast
@@gardenparty3288 fully synthetic oils will handle that
The Durango has an optional oil cooler you can get from Mopar
A WHOLE lot cooler than a Suburban!
Brake controller is not all that hidden; an aftermarket unit would be mounted lower
Biggest difference is the final drive ratio of the 5.7L being a weak 3.09:1
Versus
3.6L V6 (3.45:1 final drive) which would have been a perfect all rounder.
6.4L/6.2L SRT (3.70:1 final drive)
@@TnTTyler nope
@TnTTyler show me, I know for a fact you see wrong, otherwise I would own one, biggest disappointment with tow and go
@@TnTTyler "Though the 3.09 gearing is somewhat mild, the Tow ‘n Go is a potent hauler."
Can you tell me why they “de-tune” the 5.7 from the 395/410 in the 1500 ram to 360/390 in the durango? And then offer the 6.2 and the 6.4 with way more power? Why not just leave the 5.7 at 395/410? If the durango can handle the hellcat......
Always wonder that too
Well because the Durango is a mid size SUV that doesn't have the strudy components like in the RAM nor the 3.92:1 Axle ratio plus the output is overkill for the unibody chassis, (a true body on frame Durango would make more sense)
Why don't you have cruise control set on the down hill? It would down shift automatically and you'd have zero brake applications. 🤔
I know you have you rules you follow but if you can try setting the cruise at 55 on the way down the hill and you will have no brake applications you need to do. I would expect the dodge to be like my Jeep and it holds back to the cruise speed very well.
my 2014 ram does the same thing when towing my boat. Set the cruise and it will down shift to control overspeed.
What am I doing up at 4:40 am on a Saturday watching car reviews?
watching car reviews
ram /Durango the best gauge setup, view all temperatures at once@9:56 ,tow with a 2013 ram1500, love the set up all gauges at the same time and big number to see what gear I'm in.lot of new 10speeds the numbers are so small can hardly see it what gear one is in. I've done the Donner pass on I-80 , across I-10 /I -40 new Mexico I-15 from san Bernadino on the way to Vegas is a good climb so is I 8 from from imperial co to san Diego co your videos are one my fav to watch on towing I tell every one who wants to buy a trailer watch these
The oil being high temperatuer can't be good for the engine.
Yeah. 300F on the engine oil is highly questionable but I"m not surprised. FCA cooling is often a huge downfall.
@@phprofYT Conventional oil starts to break down above 250*F-275*F. But modern synthetic oils easily take 300*F and above. As full synthetic 5w-20 oil is readily available for under $3/qt., running synthetic oil when hea y towing in the mountains is a no-brainer.
@@phprofYT the hemi likes to be hot. It was designed that way. For being around in a way and it's only major issues being the MDS system making it eat a cam in 1 out of a 100000 motors and exhaust manifolds they did pretty good with it
Lifetime powertrain warranty says it’s fine.
@@proffittsdroneservice1537 lifetime powertrain warranty?
I remember my Ram 1500 Hemi, that exhaust drone got old on long towing trips. That’s not an issue with my Cummins 2500
My sentiments exactly. I sounds beautiful on short jaunts, but if you're doing a cross-country in the saddle all day, it will quickly become tiresome.
Sweet sounding tow rig!! 4.7 too!!
Been looking for next tow for a smallish TT and drooling over TowNGo as possible solution in Durango. Smooth ride but able to pull.
Shame Dodge can’t find oil cooling to be important. It’s just the lifeblood of that sweet sounding mill. Cross country means Rockies, Sierra’s, Cascades and poor oil cooling is unfortunate. Let Dodge know, OK? Thanks for the great look at R/T TowNGo!
Its a 5.7L if you're referring to the engine displacement. 4.7 is 9 years retired
233⁰ coolant temp was hot. I remove the 208⁰ thermostat in every HEMI I own and recommend it on every customer I work for to drop down to at least a 190⁰. I don't like em that hot. Federal emissions standards are passed easier with the hotter temps but still. My 2500 Ram 6.4 would hit 220⁰ regular cruising no loads. Nope.. to hot. Runs 170⁰ now and that keeps everything else cooler too. Trans temps can be corrected too with tstat eliminating block, but they want it warm quicker so you don't have premature wear and tear with that "lifetime" fluid.... but not everyone works on their own stuff these days either. Just my .02 as person who builds HEMI engines in the aftermarket these days.
Hemi for the win. I go down with 12000 pounds and manually downshift. No braking required
Oil temp is high bc the Ram trucks with tow package come with an extra oil cooler, why does this not? When it is equipped with "tow" package
Nice work. Thank you
For some reason I thought Ike was a 11% grade. When I hit a hill with my zr2 that was 11%, I was like Jesus the Ike is crazy 😂😂
I believe Interstate highways are 7% max.
@@kevinvoyer5053 yeah I was off road when I hit the 11%, be scared on an interstate going up a 11% lol
We have a 2014 Dodge Durango. Unless they have made major changes, the two haul mode isn't that great.
The changes are great enough there's no comparing the two.
Lol 7 yrs difference. Think about how much technology has progressed in those 7 yrs.
Umm you took a point off for not having a tow checklist. Wtf
It was a combined 1 point deduction for limited tow technology (360 camera, checklist, trailer light check, etc).
@@stephenj4937 oh that makes some more sense
I wish you would instead pull a 7000 pound travel trailer.
with 4 people and 2 large dogs
That mopar conventional oil in the factory fill would be some burnt at 293.
GCVWR- GVWR=Tow Rating, Hitch Receiver Rating - Hitch Weight = max Tongue Weight. So what are the real #'s
Not to be critical but, who with any towing/trucking experience goes off a steep grade in their tallest gear? Respectfully. Not me, ever. 60 years experience.
Love my tow n go 👌
Me too!
I'd like to see the MPG segment given less priority, maybe 10 points. Put more points into the uphill/downhill portion. Towing max weight up the Ike is going to result in terrible MPG regardless of vehicle or engine.
True but don't they consider 5 mpg perfect?
@@Dennis-sq2nm They do. But, does it really matter if you get 5 MPG or 2.5 MPG over an 8 mile stretch? That's only like $3 difference. And when have we ever seen any 2 vehicles in the same segment get wildly different results? Their longer MPG loop videos they do tell us a lot more about fuel efficiency IMO.
Love yeah work Andre... nice vehicle FCA... now get rid of those awful white running lights...
Do they make Durangos with the 6.4 available? I wish they would make the Ram 1500 with the 6.4 Hemi available as an option like Chevy does with the 6.2L Vortec
Please explain why payload is 1,200lb, but GVWR (7,100lb) - Curb Weight (5,313lb) = 1,787lb??
Because the curb weight isn't 5313. It's 7100-1200.
@@johntlarkin
I just checked Dodge’s website.
R/T AWD (without Tow n Go)
Curb weight: 5,313
GVWR: 7,100
Payload: 1,300
Same issue here.
@@Spikejou payload is 1590lbs on the tow n go.
In reality its much more than 1200 lb. I did weights with my travel trailer and different vehicle. The sticker states 1200 lb but in reality it was approximately GWVR6173 - UVW 4600= 1573 lb
With 3 occupants and TT I still had a few hundreds pounds of spare capacity.
This 1200 lb is standard recommendation for the worst case scenario. Manufacturers would not bother to provide exact number for each vehicle build.
Should have tested the 6.4 liter V-8 engine.
Why don’t you lend them yours?
@@mikek5298, not stupid enough, like you, to own a DODGE Dead On Delivery Guaranteed Emergency
The tire and vehicle manufacturers are S T R E A T C H I N G the definition of "all terrain" tires. There is NO way those tires would do the job off roading.
how do you think it would pull a 30ft/7000lb camper?
I wouldnt recommend it. You will go over the payload really quickly...
I have 27 feet around 6000 lbs +
Doing great with 21 RT TNG
Payload is at least 1600 lb (7100- 5400), door sticker is misleading
Weight distribution is essential.
Hi guys ,,, I have a 27 foot long boat ,, and I am thinking of buying a Durango ,, I would prefer a truck but my wife is pregnant and I prefer a more family car like the Durango ,, You think it can tow well my boatwith this car
Why am I up so early for the Ike👍
I own a citadel 5.7 a 2012 but still the same body I'm just curious my durango has a tow haul button does the 2021 have a tow haul mode and if so did you activate it I ask because if I press it only when it's hilly condition the truck actually uses engine brake to slow me down
Maybe try watching the video?
295 degree oil temps (or even over 250) is completely unacceptable for a vehicle advertised as tow and go. Whether this thing is being used as a tow vehicle or a track vehicle, it is going to nuke the oil. Synthetic oil handles this better than dinosaur squeezings, but if the overall oil temp is near 300, that means isolated areas (like the backside of the pistons) are seeing well over 300 degrees, meaning that oil is burning inside the engine. I assume it has no oil cooler, which is a very basic and downright careless omission by FCA. Even my ancient Suburban with less power and a lower tow rating has an oil cooler.
What is unacceptable is your ignorance. Conventional oil starts to break down above 250*F-275*F. But modern synthetic oils easily take 350*F and above. As full synthetic 5w-20 oil is readily available for under $3/qt., running synthetic oil when heavy towing in the mountains is a no-brainer. Also the hemi's likes to be hot. It was designed that way
Anyone else bothered by the missing eyelash on the green headlight indicator at 11:08?
Andre missed the sound/noise check 😆😆😆😆
Love the test, however your downhill test is not realistic. No one would drive downhill without manually downshifting to avoid using the brakes.
I am pretty sure this Durango has some form of air shocks in the rear. If so, it would allow you to level it. Ya missed the boat on that one...
Not sure I believe the 4.7 mpg on the trip meter. It stayed at 4.7 for the entire run except for the first few seconds after it was reset. Seems like it can't (or won't ) calculate any lower...
How about doing some I gauntlet testing with real camp trailers like a 30 ft to 34 foot long 7500 lbs get some real world numbers with the bigger body and wind results.
Dose anyone think the Durango should go back to their gen 1 or gen 2 frame. When is was base off of truck frame.
7th? LoL
The Durango as with its Jeep counter part are novelties . Haven driven both I can honestly say they are fun to drive but from a practical standpoint they are waste. You can carry passengers or cargo but not both. I’d be looking for a muffler shop after an hour of driving this thing.
Go look up the small overlap crash test. This unit is right up there with a lot of really bad actors. Just buy a F-150 for way less money, stay safe out there.
*Laughs in Toyota reliability*
The second Gen sequoia launched in 2007, and literally hasn't changed. There's a point of don't fix it if it isn't broken, but it needed to of been updated 6 years ago
The Durango is Dodge's most reliable vehicle. Actually, the entire Dodge lineup has been reliable as of late.
**looks at the Camry not being recommended by their safe place, Consumer Reports**
@@mpsangha Dodge(not Jeep or RAM) was the Only american Manufacturer to make Consumer reports top #10 for 2019+2020.
Buddy had two of them kept having problems got rid of it bought his wife a mustang.
Went from a big 3 row suv to a small coupe? Wut lol
@@macbookpro57 just her for fun. He had a dodge truck soon sold went to GMC. I'll stay with my Fords 18 years and going.
@Cheezus Crust Oh no surprise here to see the troll again. Is this all you do? Already you have made 4 independant replies bashing the brand and adding nothing to the conversation. In fact you even resorted to lying about being a mechanic when another person was asking for advice. You are truly utterly pathetic.
Really the Durango is in its own class. Just like the Wrangler. Say why you want about FCA, but they’ve nailed product positioning.
Best comment here. It us indeed in a class all its own. Everyone else abandoned the V8 in midsize, plus the Durango still has real room, borderline full-size SUV. Sure, it isn't as modern, but for a lot of people, the class-exclusives it does offer are more desirable.
Durango is fullsize...
@Speed Gate A previous admin (won't name names) handed Chrysler over to Fiat thinking we'd get a bunch of little 4 cylinder runabouts..
We got, MORE V8'S!
Since Chrysler/Dodge/Ram is now the financial arm of the company..
Ike Gauntlet runs are my favorite TFL videos. Keep up the great work!
I wonder how your Excursion would do.
@@10speedr I’ve been wanting to try it!
Only reason why I watch TFL.
You shall make a feature with them with the 7.3 excursion
Man that thing sounds good.
For a midsized crossover it handled 700 lb tongue weight very well. With an oil cooler and clip on tow mirrors you'd have an impressive package for a midsized vehicle.
But payload is ridiculous 1200lb, wife and tree kids can't tow more than 4500lb-5000lb
@@zelenizub2036 1200 beats most high trimmed trucks
A durango is NOT a midsize
@Speed Gate Nope, it isnt. Durango is 7,100 GVWR, over 200 inches long, 76 inches wide, and has a 120 inch wheelbase. Tahoe is 7,400 GVWR and 210 inches long, 81 inches wide, 120 inch wheelbase. Both have third row seating. They have the smae tow capacity within 100-200 pounds. Have you seen a Durango in person? They are huge. Have you driven one? They are huge. A Durango is NOT a "midsize" anything. It is full size. Doesn't matter that the frame is different, its a "full size" vehicle.
How you gonna sell me a $5,000 "tow package" and I still need clip-on mirrors?
Great video as always, love these. However, something I would have liked to see is for you to touch on the brakes/rotors that come with the upgrade. You compared it to the suburban a few times and how you braked less downhill in the Chevy, but isn't the point of the 4 piston Brembo's in the Dodge, that it can take all of that additional heat and weight while braking? The Suburban comes with small rotors and what looks to be 2 piston standard calipers, not even close to the setup on the Dodge. Just an observation.
It's more of an engine/trans/turning test than a braking test. Although if there's a reasonable way to do it, it could be interesting to add before/after brake temps as part of the reporting. But yeah, better brakes could make up for (or might even be necessary because of) less capable engine braking. It also kind of begs the question of what could happen if higher gears are manually selected, but then if it's meant to test the vehicle instead of the driver, that could potentially introduce a substantial noise factor.
Who else thought it was the new Durango Hellcat 😂😂😂
Love the Durango
Morning TFL. Morning everyone. Merry Christmas!
Have a 2020 Durango SRT with the tow package. It is an awesome machine... so much so, I want a second one with the third row, as ours has the “light weight” package which deletes the third row. Was thinking g of getting the tow and go.
233F coolant and almost 300F oil temp. That's nuts. That's damned hot.
Agreed, those temps are mental. I understand that this is an extreme test, but when you see temps that high, you have a lot more trailer than tow vehicle.
Still did it with no issues, it’s nice to know it can actually do this
You need to set the cruise control to 50 MPH, that way the tow/haul setting will hold the speed and downshift the transmission as needed without braking.
Bought a fully loaded Durango RT in April for under $50k. It's been great and the HEMI sounds amazing!
50k sounds a lot better than 66k. How were you able to get one for so much less? Big discounts or less options?
@@joetz1 dealer discounts, less options.... It's not that hard. Hell, if you all you get is the tow and go package you'll be at 50k msrp. The RT already has many of the premium features standard so that's all I would get.
@@joetz1 I have the same model outside of the DVD players. Fully loaded RT. I was able to get a good deal because the dealership was only open to essential workers and needed to sell some cars so there was a really good markdown.
Still have it?
@@mcosta1819 traded it in a few months ago for a diesel Tahoe. We had zero issues in 77k miles. Not even a check engine light.The fuel mileage is much better on the Tahoe, but I personally miss the Durango and the HEMI
I had a 2002 durango sxt with the 4.7. It was one of the best vehicles I’ve ever owned!! (Did not have the third row, which was fine because I never had that many people wanting a ride!!) loved it!! Love this durango too!!
66k... I refuse to play along with crazy prices...
Often times there's some aggressive incentives with Durango's. But the 66 grand Is getting up there. But every manufacturer is hiking prices too
$2000.00 of that is for the Rear DVD intertainment system. Another $1000.00 is a couple pieces of carbon fiber interior trim. If not needed. The price to value starts making more sense. His test vehicle was optioned out.
You have to start with an awd RT which is $45.7k on build n price. If all you do is add the $5k tow n go you’re at $50k.
Massive depreciation, Durango's are nutso priced. Go buy a 2007 for 1200$, I bet tows almost the same.
@Akira S I guess some people just refuse to live in today’s market. It’s not that I don’t agree with you, I about passed out when buying my 2021 F350 a few weeks ago. However, I remember when a gallon of gas was $1.00 as well. Nothing we can do about it except complain I guess which is most people’s go to reaction today. We sure get a lot of nice features though too. My new favorite is being able to see what my load inside the trailer looks like right on the dash. The 10 speed transmission, 1050 lbft and heated and cooled seats aren’t too bad either.
That Durango R/T TnG is sweet. Large mid-size with nearly full-size capabilities. Not many crossovers can compete with that.
Correction. No other crossover can compete.
A durango is huge it is not a crossover its the same size as a tahoe
@Speed Gate I have indeed and I have driven both. Plus I just replied with the specs to your other comment. Pretty much same size. Have you seen a Durango in person? Its UUGGEE
@@rb3tactical145 the Durango is not huge.
It would be great if you could run a second loop using manual shift mode for both up and down hill. Not sure why the Hemi won't downshift more on the downhill.
...yeah, looked like it could have grabbed another gear up hill as well, 4500 rpm was up there. I've driven that same pass numerous times, you do get an effect with elevation but that rpm still seemed excessive for the whole climb.
Nice job Andre. Not your fault but it sucks with no Mr. Truck. Nice job on your own explaining the durango. Stay safe.
Set the cruise on the downhill test next year please. Transmissions don't know what speed you want them to control the load if you don't tell them
I can't speak for other makes, but the Chrysler cruise controls automatically work the brakes for you in these situations.
This video should be required viewing for those who say you can't tow with a unibody vehicle and need a body on frame. This is sufficient capacity for almost anyone not doing commercial work or pulling a 5th wheel. Obviously some need more, but this is equivalent to 1/2 tons in the 90s.
Did you use the gear hold feature?
Please change the squat to an objective score. It is measured, not your opinion. It is not subjective.
You'd think for all that Tow&go money they'd give you upgraded mirrors.
Not only for the Durango, but pretty much any vehicle. Just slap it in manual, shift down and you will be able to go down with 0 brake applications. Save those brakes. lol
Downshifting helps you slow down not $100k hellcat.
A hellcat will have much stronger engine braking.with the increase in pressure as he said in the video...
In the fall of 2017, I ordered a new 2018 DD RT in red just like this one as my wife’s daily driver. I wanted the 18 because of the new hood and shifter handle (was the knob before). Just turned 40k on it today while doing the usual kid hauling duties. It has been a great suv so far. I’ve done some mods like air intake, Corsa exhaust etc so it sounds good too. I have trucks I use for towing but for daily running it’s been great.
Given the huge expansion in travel trailers, I’d love to see these tests towing a 7k camper. Longer, more frontal area than a horse trailer and more applicable to what people are likely to be towing now-adays. Welcome others thoughts.
Gravity only cares about weight and using a standardized trailer that allows adjustment in weight easily gives an overall fair showing. IMO
@@larrybe2900 A TT is a giant wall being pulled through the air. A 7k pound enclosed utility trailer is drastically different than a 7k pound TT.
how wide is your travel trailer? how long? hitch wt,? how many people, in the Durango ? dogs?water tank full ?, and towing is not a race I alway's say take 10-15% off what the tow guides show get it going need to stop it tacoma show 6500 good Luck with that its more of a 5000 lb same with the ranger gladiator if the trailer is 7000 lb on the scale go with a heavy 5500-6600 truck
@@Network-Mike
I agree.
For testing, a utility trailer is a better choice to effectively vary weight demands. Wind won't get you a ticket either.
@@Network-Mike right? Best I can tell, Durango frontal area limit is 40sq feet. So that would rule out most any camper.
I don't Trust Chrysler or GM vehicles high costs of these new Vehicles i only Buy from Ford.
I rather this than anything from gm or Ford
Now it's unibody. It used to be body on frame.
For the 3rd generation they put it on the same platform as the grand Cherokee. Arguably it's a better platform the Gen 2 was hot garbage. The Gen 1 shared a Dakota platform and was typical 90s Chrysler.
The OG Durango, especially the models packing the 360(5.9L V8), were great for what they were. In a sense, those models are the spiritual predecessors to the 6.4. I agree, the 2nd-gen, which was developed under Daimler ownership and subsequent Cerebrum control, was not the best. But co-developing the 3rd platform with MB really saved Durango/JGC.
At least they didnt pull a chevy and make it a 4 cylinder crossover like the blazer.
Dodge did us good by shoving a hellcat motor in it
I don't think that hot oil is a real problem. Full synthetic oil can withstand much higher temperatures than 300F.
I have my 21 Durango with TNG on order to continue pulling my 6500 lb travel trailer, , so this was a very nice video to watch.
We have a full synthetic mobile one oil witch is good for it like if we are in the hot weather or like towing it can take extreme heat
Conventional oil starts to break down above 250*F-275*F. But modern synthetic oils easily take 350*F and above. As full synthetic 5w-20 oil is readily available for under $3/qt., running synthetic oil when heavy towing in the mountains is a no-brainer. Also the hemi's likes to be hot. It was designed that way
@@paulj9821 back in 2005 it was the most advanced v8 back then and it still is the best v8 to tow
I'm glad to see this comment. I just got a '22 TnG to yank m,y 5400lb (dry) Mini Lite around, and everyone everywhere is acting like I'm death waiting to happen to the entire population. Would be happy to hear any pointers if you have them to share.
Andre's smile count for the Ike uphill test, no less than 12. lol Which means, the Durango wins his approval test.(going up hill)
amazing, i am loving my 2018 dodge durango r/t !
Having the oil temperature at almost 300 degrees is not good, does this thing have an oil cooler for the tow package? Although it would be interesting to see the temperature on flatter terrain with the same load.
Agree, seems like both 345 hemi and 392 hemi runs hot especially during Ike. I have 2018 rt and I never let my oil temp go beyond 250. I love mopar but FCA should address the oil temp issue. 300f is just not acceptable at all.
The factory filled Pennzoil ultra platinum full synthetic provides plenty of protection at extreme temperatures. This is about the most extreme towing situation you could be in with that vehicle, in ordinary circumstances I see no issues
Conventional oil starts to break down above 250*F-275*F. But modern synthetic oils easily take 300*F and above. As full synthetic 5w-20 oil is readily available for under $3/qt., running synthetic oil when heavy towing in the mountains is a no-brainer. Also the hemi's likes to be hot. It was designed that way
From my point of view I am not worrying about the oil is breaking down, I am more worried about the engine wear when my oil temp is 300f. You guys mentioned hemi runs hot, but it shouldn't run hotter than x5 twin turbo v8 which the oil temp never exceed 240. To me runs hot means 250-260 but not 300. When operating temp is too high the bearing wears way faster.
@@yuzeyang8847 tow 7000lbs with that up the mountain and tell me what your oil temp is... My hemi Durango oil temp never exceeds 210 under normal driving conditions
Great solo video Andre. That performance exhaust sounded great!
I wish in your towing test you would show towing an actual travel trailer or fifth wheel trailer in a pick up instead of a horse trailer.
It's hard to adjust the weight of a travel trailer.
@@AkioWasRight Just load one as you normally would with your cargo and whatever else you put in there as if you were going camping what’s so hard about that. It’s a more realistic example of towing capabilities in real world.
@@wildhog3217 Because different trucks tow different weights, and they tow with dozens of different trucks every year, all with different tow ratings. If X travel trailer weighs 10,000lbs, but Y truck only tows 8,700lbs, how do you adjust that down? You can't. That's why they use cargo trailers, horse trailers, utility trailers, or anything where you can add or remove weight.
@@AkioWasRight Just want to see trucks rated for towing 7000 pounds actually pulling a travel trailer instead of a horse trailer because a travel trailer will have more wind drag on it which will affect the towing capabilities of certain trucks with the range towing for example a half ton truck pulling 7000 pound travel trailer.
Synthetic oil will easily handle that heat. Dead dinosaur will take it for limited periods of time. I have no concerns with the Temps for short periods of time. Also let's be honest how often do we tow 7k up a hill at full throttle?
towing is not a race 292 is way to hot id slow down or pull off for cool down mine runs at 212-222 high as 248 I don't over work my engine on long hauls or in the middle of July aug my co pilot she writes down the numbers for me I monitor trans, oil, coolant temps
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 Conventional oil starts to break down above 250*F-275*F. But modern synthetic oils easily take 350*F and above. As full synthetic 5w-20 oil is readily available for under $3/qt., running synthetic oil when heavy towing in the mountains is a no-brainer. Also the hemi's likes to be hot. It was designed that way
@@paulj9821 thanks for the info I do run. full synthetic do oil change before every long trip and as soon as I get home 3000-4500 trips I pass on this info to other hemi owners I know
We need a Land Rover disco ike gauntlet. Instead of how many break applications, just monitor how many breakdowns it had in the entire run.
Sorry, had to do it
would be interested to see the trans temp during the test.
13.40 min mark. trans temp 203
They showed it
Is it just me, or does anyone else see Ram 1500 Classic buyers who don't particularly tow much, cross shopping between this and the All New Ram 1500 once the Ram 1500 Classic dies in 2022? The Durango resembles the Ram 1500 Classic Express a lot.
Just watched the entire video, awesome job as always!
Trying to convince the lady this is prettier than a G wagon
Anything is prettier than that overpriced overhyped German pos
Nothing is prettier then G Wagon. Its grossly overpriced but....