Mirrorless Camera in Dental Photography | Sony | ULTIMATE GUIDE 2021 | Part 4
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- UPDATE: I NOW RECOMMEND THE GODOX MF-12 FLASH FOR THE ADVANCED SETUP. SEE MY LATEST VIDEO: • The NEW Best Dental Ph...
We've had a lot of requests recently for a video guiding people when it comes to buying and using a mirrorless camera in dentistry. In this video, we cover the 2 most popular mirrorless camera choices by sony and discuss which is the better option by comparing all the differences.
Hope you find it useful!
3-part photography series
📸 Equipment ✔ : • Dental Photography Equ...
⚙ Settings ✔ : • Dental Photography Set...
🦷 Technique ✔ : • Dental Photography Tec...
📰 Blog post with all the links to the equipment: www.twodentists.com/dental-ph...
📚 Check out our online shop for some free Cheat sheets and downloadable content:
shop.twodentists.com/
🛍 Our gear list: kit.co/twodentists/two-dentis...
📸 Budget Setup:
Sony A6000 UK - amzn.to/3n1vOov
Sony A6000 US - amzn.to/3sGIKRA
Samyang 100mm lens UK - amzn.to/2VUsnqe
Samyamn 100mm lens US - amzn.to/3g0Q5rI
Nissin MF18 Ring Flash UK- amzn.to/3aorb2z
Nissin MF18 Ring Flash US - amzn.to/3Axy1gK
📸 Advanced setup:
Sony A6400 UK - amzn.to/3sg8KET
Sony A6400 US - amzn.to/3iGqiHh
Sony 90mm macro lens UK - amzn.to/32tF9M8
Sony 90mm macro lens US - amzn.to/3vawQkC
Godox MF12 twin flash for Sony: geni.us/Godox-MF12
Godox X2T-S flash trigger: geni.us/Godox-X2T-S
Owlbrackt ballhead - owlbracket.com/
🛍 Our gear list: kit.co/twodentists/two-dentis...
📱 Follow us on Instagram: two.dentists
⏲ Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:42 Cheaper mirrorless set-up
01:25 More advanced set-up
1:50 Differences between them
04:44 Settings for a mirrorless camera
09:09 Outro
📰 Blog post for this video: www.twodentists.com/mirrorles...
🔎 If you prefer to read, you can visit our website for our blog posts, with transcripts of our videos, cheat sheets and other documents to help you.
🌐 Website: www.twodentists.com
📧 If you want to contact us for any help or have any questions, we’ll be engaging with the comments sections and if you’d prefer to ask in private, feel free to DM us! - บันเทิง
**UPDATE**: I NOW RECOMMEND THE GODOX MF-12 FLASH FOR THE ADVANCED SETUP. SEE MY LATEST VIDEO: th-cam.com/video/329RMDt9zHk/w-d-xo.html
hi, I purchased the mieke light and returned it to buy the godox, I trust you but I would like to know what the difference is and why you recommend the godox now? also, are there any alternatives to the owl bracket?
@@alarcon9793 The godox mf12 is a newer and stronger flash. The modelling light is also much stronger which helps with focus peaking and manual focusing. I've heard good things about the PhotoMed R2 Dual Point Flash Bracket.
@@TwoDentists I just bought the Godox MF12, are you using it 1/4 or 1/2?
@@ThePaocast I mainly use it on 1/4 without any diffusers and 1/4 with diffusers
This is absolutely one of the best videos for dental photography. Thank you Dr.
Thank you for watching Sif!
Great video as always bro! This channel is Filled to the brim with knowledge 👏
Thank you bro, we’ve learnt a lot from you x
@@TwoDentists we learn from eachother 🙏🏼❤
I just bought the premium sony set up, your explanation is really helpfull. Thanks alot💪🏼😊
Thank you for trusting us and watching!
This video saved my life !!!
Ur Amazing Doc.. Thank you so much for sharing very important information.. it cleared my all doubts..
Thank you again
Thank you for watching!
Well done for such a clear explanation 👏👏💯
Thank you! 🙌🏽
Great video, thank you!
Thanks for a very good video and clear instructions
You’re welcome!
Hi Doc.
Nice video.
I recently got a nikon z 50 with their new nikkor z mount 105mm f2.8 macrolens. I got the meike twin flash.
What settings you recommend and what batteries do you use for the flashes?
Hey amit, hope you’re well, sorry for the late response, we must have missed your comment. Check out our part 2 of the photography series for the settings we like to use and part one and the blog for part 1 for the batteries we recommend. Hope that helps!
Thank you so so much for this photography series and all the effort you have put in to make this video. Really appreciate all the hard work and the pure knowledge you have provided in this series. I have bought an A6400 as you recommended with a 90mm sony lens but can not find the Owl bracket anywhere.Do you recommend any other bracket which will be compatible with twin flash or any other twin flash in which I won't require the use the bracket.Thanks in advance
Hi Shilpi! The owlbracket ballhead is instock at the moment. You can always email them to ask when they will have stock. An alternative bracket is the "PhotoMed R2 Dual Point Flash Bracket" which is from US.
@@TwoDentists Thank you so much for the reply
Thanks for the great video! I already have an a6400 for photography and I'm going to try convert it into a dental photography setup!
That would be your best option! Check out our first vid in the series for the equipment list
@@TwoDentists Dr Vic did a photography guide for Kaizen where he said for crop sensor he recommends 60mm because you can get the flash much closer to the patient, so get brighter posterior shots.
A shame there's no sony macro 60mm!
Hello Doc, do you recommend the Sony SEL30M35 lens for the ring flash setup? I am currently trying to piece together my a6000 for dental photography but not sure what to buy. THANK YOU for this great video.
Hello! Please check out our video for dental photogrpahy equipment for my recommendations. th-cam.com/video/-YG_xCA7Fww/w-d-xo.html
35mm lens is not recommended. I would recommend the Sony SEL90M28G
Thanks for the great info!
I have the sony a7iii and looking forward to buy a macro lens for dental photography, would you go with the sony 90mm or sigma 105?
Thanks in advance
Thank you for watching!
Definitely the Sony because the sigma lens does not show the magnification ratio on the focus ring
Hi, doctor! Thank you for your informative videos. I have some questions about magnification ratio. As your recommendation to use 1:3 for occlusal view, does this change the magnification ratio in Sony full frame camera? Or is it the same as the crop sensor camera?
Another question is what would you recommend to set the focus switch on Sony 90mm lens barrel? Should we set on Full, 0.5m to infinity, or 0.28-0.5 meters in order to get a faster focus?
Thank you in advance. I love all your dental photography series!
Hi Amorn! For full frame cameras the mag ratio will be different. You will need to experiment and see what looks good for your set up. When you know what looks good then you need to stay consistent with it so your shots are comparable.
For the second question, these numbers are only relevant for AF. They tell the camera how far the lens is from the subject to improve the focusing. So when you take portrait shots, you should set it to Full or 0.5m-infinity because you’ll likely be about 1.5m away from the patient when taking the shot. Whereas when you’re taking intra-oral photos, you’ll be 0.28-0.5m away from the patient. When you’re using MF, these settings don’t change anything.
Hope that helps 👍🏼
@@TwoDentists Thank you so much. That’s really helpful. I’m so glad I found your videos! ☺️
Thank you for the video👏🏻 I was struggling with mirrorless set, now it’s working 👍🏻
Great to hear!!
Great video, any chance for Nikon mirrorless? Or are the settings mostly the same? Thanks
Hi Andrej, sorry I haven't used any Nikon mirrorless cameras so I don't know specifically but most the settings should be the same.
Thank you for the great video. I have the sony alpha 7C as body and the sony lens FE2.8/90 macro as suggested. What do you think if I use Metz 15MS-1 as the flash? Thank you.
I would recommend the new godox mf-r76s+
It's a new ring flash by godox SPECIFICALLY made for dental photography! I'll be making a new video on it soon 🙌🏼
Hello. Hope you’re doing well. I’m thinking of investing in my first camera for dental photography. And in your previous video you mentioned about mirrorless being the future for dental photography. That being said, I’m considering between Sony A6000 and Fujifilm XT200. What do you think about them since both have similar specs
Hello, the reason I have chosen the A6000 is because I can find a good macro lens and a compatible flash. I did not look into Fujifilm because I could not find a reliable lens and flash combination. If you have found anything let me know!
I have a Sony a6600 and the Yongnuo YN14EX ring light (for Canon) is able to work with it in manual mode only if you buy a hot shoe adapter (ex. Vello)
Hi Sean! I haven't tried that yet so I'm not sure. If you have everything just get the adpayer from Amazon and give it a try. If it doesn't work you can return the adapter 👌🏽
Hi there! Thank you so much for the interesting video's you made! I've bought a Sony A7 Mark III body and a Sigma 105mm macro lens, I use them with a Nissing ring flash. Nevertheless, my colors are not realistic: they appear rather purple or to brown/yellowish instead of pink. Do you have any tips and tricks how to set a good white balance?
Hi Florence! Your white balance should be about 5500k or on flash
hi - thank u so much for this great video - i bought the sony alpha 6400 with the macro lens and a godox ring flash mf r76S+ Do u have any recommendation to get fewer reflection when doing a frontal pic of the teeth with a ring flash?
Hello! You can try using a diffuser such as the FlashKap or the popeshield 👌🏼 it will help but ring flash will always have quite a bit of reflections in the middle of the teeth
Great video !!!
Thank you so much
Hello,
I have a Sony A7III that I want to use for dental photography. I am in oral and maxillofacial surgery and want to take photos of third molar surgeries, implants, orthognathics (facial profile shots). Do you think that the 90mm macro is okay for me to buy or is the focal length too long? I was also thinking about the Tamron 28-75 for the versatility of intraoral and extraoral shots. I appreciate your time to advise on this! I’ve been struggling to find answers for so long
Hello Marcus, The sony 90mm macro lens would be perfect for your setup. As you have a full-frame A7III you will be able to get a wider shot compared to the A6400 crop sensore which helps you for your extra-oral shots. You may need a little bit of space for your extra-oral shots but usually there is enough space in a room. You wouldn't be able to use the Tamron 28-75 for your intra-oral shots as it's not a macro lens. If you are worried about how far away you have to be with extra-oral shots, download this app where you can tell it your camera and choose 90mm focal length and on the screen it will show you what you would see. Try it out on your clinic and see if you have enough space for the shots you want to get. Hope that helps
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.kadru.sonyviewfinderfree&hl=en_GB&gl=US
@@TwoDentists Thank you so much. Don't you feel like that the 90mm will be too close for extra-oral shots, especially when shooting on the operating room table? For example, I will need to take photos with the patient on the operating room table and me shooting from directly above most of the time
Hey guys great video, I'm currently deciding between the meike twin you recommend and the godox twin mf12 with the x2t. Any thoughts? :)
Hi Yousaf, I would definitely now recommend the godox twin mf12 with the x2t. It's the flash I use now!
@@TwoDentists Thank you! does this still connect to the owl bracket ballhead BH-N?
yes it does.
Hello, I am about to buy this lens! Have you found the autofocus an issue with the 90mm since it is so dark in the mouth?
The autofocus is much better when you have a good flash with a good modelling light. With my new flash (links below) I found autofocus to be quite reliable.
amzn.to/3Mg7ry5
amzn.to/3GUrEbC
Dear Two Dentists !
The focal length of the 90mm lens is not too long on a crop sensor machine? Is it possible to take a complete occlusal image with it (without your assistant)? Or how far away can a photo be taken compared to a 100mm lens + FF sensor? This Sony setup looks great, but I'm a little afraid the "crop factor" is too big.
Thanks !
The 90mm lens on a crop sensor is still great for taking full occlusal shots. I've not had any problems with it at all! You don't need to be too far from the patient, I usually have the patient completely flat and low to the ground and it's ok, I've never needed to tiptoe or anything. I can only see it being a problem if you're VERY short!
Que macro lente comprar? Tengo una Sony alfa 6400, me recomendaron una Sigma 105 mm F2.8 DG DN Macro Art, estará bien?
La lente sigma no cabe en la sony a6400. Consulte nuestra publicación de blog para conocer la configuración recomendada.
www.twodentists.com/dental-photography-equipment-ultimate-guide-2021/
Hi,can I use Sony Objectif Macro SEL-30M35 Monture E APS-C 30 mm F3.5 with my Sony Alpha A6000 for orthodontic photography, what do you think? Thank you!
I still think you’ll need a larger focal length lens to be honest if you want to capture intra-oral photos, how’s it been going so far with your current set up? Are you using a flash with this set up?
Thank for such an excellent video for dental photography with mirrorless camera. I am going to get A6400 - meike twin wireless macro flash kit for Nikon is the one to get for A6400 ? Plus do I really need to get bracket for the pictures , as I want to confirm the stability of the flash with brackets ?
Thank you
Hey! We have a blog post on our website explaining the exact set you want. This is the link: www.twodentists.com/dental-photography-equipment-ultimate-guide-2021/
Scroll down to the premium sony twin flash set up and where it says get the sony a6000, get the a6400 body. The bracket is pretty essential because without it you will struggle to get enough light exposing the posterior teeth for posterior shots with a twin flash. It would give you much better results.
Hope this helps
@@TwoDentists Thanks dear - I have the setup A6400 - now one of my meike twin flash is draining battery even after a single patient use - where as the other batteries are still good after usage. Any kind suggestion?
Great video 👏👏👏
Thank you 🙏🏼
I have gotten the advanced setup that you suggested. I have some interference between the bracket and my lens. What did you use to lower the bracket?
I use an arca swiss plate which I tighten really well to the camera and then this adapter that goes on the owl bracket:
Arca swiss plate: geni.us/arcaswissplate
Adapter: geni.us/screwadapter
dear Dr. I would like to ask about the modeling light , is it a feature in the trigger or in the flash ؟؟
Hello, it's a feature found on the unit that sits on top of the camera which is usually the trigger which connects to the two twin flashes. But some flashes have a modelling light on the twin flashes which you turn on via the trigger. So it can be both.
Hi Doctor! I have a problem with the compatibility of the nissin lamp with the a6400 body. After connecting the lamp, the following message appears "this accessory is not supported by the device and cannot be used. Please verify the compatybility with the device". It looks as if the camera did not receive information from the lamp, that it is connected, but on manual settings, the flash makes a flash and the photos look OK. Does the situation look the same on your kit? Do you think this has any effect on the performance of the kit?
Hello, sorry we have not heard of this problem before. It may be a faulty flash unit and nissin may need to replace it for you. As long as you are comfortable taking photos on manual mode it will not hinder your performance.
Do you use a picture profile setting ??? I been having issues with Sony’s colors, they look to pale, gingiva looks super light.
I don't use any picture profiles. The colours are dependant on your lens, your flash temperature and your white balance. If gingiva looks pale and super light, try lowering your white balance below 5600K. Let me know if that helps 👌🏽
Looking to buy a mirrorless twin flash set-up. Currently using Canon DSLR with 100mm macro lens and ring flash. Would you recommend buying a new canon mirrorless body so I can use the lens or do you still prefer the Sony mirrorless setup that you have used here? Thanks! 😊
It would be better for you to buy a canon mirrorless camera such as the canon R10 which is a great camera!
Hello Dr! I followed all your settings on my Sony a6400 but I find that my anterior smile photos still give off more of an orange tinge/warmth to it - any ideas how I can get rid? Also, on the memory page where I want to save, how do I change from "AF-A" to "MF", and "25p" to "24p"?
You need to adjust the white balance to get rid of the orange/warmth. To change from from 25p to 24p you need to change from NTSC to PAL format in the settings.
Is there any other twin flash you would recommend other than the meike that would be compatible with the sony mirrorless?
This godox flash and trigger is my new flash for my twin flash setup! Check it out:
amzn.to/3Mg7ry5
amzn.to/3GUrEbC
I would like also to ask about godax mf12 is it strong enough and has modeling light ?? as I will use it with owlbracket
Hi Mohamed, yes I have the godox mf12 flash now and it's a fantastic flash. It is stronger than the meike twin flash. It has a great modelling light.
Hi i have a sony a7c body , Please recommend a lens. I am considering sony 90mm macro lens, do you recommend samyang 100mm lens as shown in the video?
Hello! I recommend the Sony 90mm macro lens. It is better than the samyang in my opinion and has autofocus capabilities
hello, thank you so much for all the videos they really helped me understand what i really need, i googled a little bit and found a canon mirrorless camera EOS M50ii, can you tell me your openion please? it has ( as i understood) all the features in canon 77d plus it’s mirrorless, what do you think and thank again
Hello, I haven't personally used any canon mirrorless cameras for dental photography but I don't see any reason as to why it wouldn't work. However, you will need a lens adapter to fit the canon 100mm macro lens. You will need a Canon EF-EOS M Mount Adapter.
@@TwoDentists hi if we use the canon 100mm macro lens on the m50 mark ii does that mean the effective focal length will be 160mm? Will that be too far away from the patient?
Hi Dr, the Sony 90mm Marco lens’s lowest aperture can’t go lower than f22, is that enough for dental photography?
Yes it's more than enough!
Hi. Do you have a recommendation for a mirrorless body with price performance and focusing capability?
We both use the Sony A6400 and we love it!
Hey! Thank you so much for this video series.
I went with the less expensive setup and I am having trouble setting up my aperture. The "F" icon on the screen only shows a double dash and does not change when rotating the aperture dial. Is this normal?
Hi Yoni, yes that is completely normal. The aperture is manually changed on the lens and you won't see the number change on the camera because it is not digitally connected.
@@TwoDentists that's what I assumed. Thank you for confirming.
Great video! I'm quite inexperienced and leaned towards mirrorless because there was some hype about it being the norm moving forward. I have the 90mm Sony Macro lens and a Macro Ring light. I tried f22, with your recommended ISO &1/160, and Looking through my lens, it's completely dark on screen and in the viewer. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Hi Jeff, what flash do you have connected? Sometimes when the flash is not connected properly or the flash is not recognised by the camera, you will see a black screen at f22. Make sure the flash is compatible with your camera and is connected properly. If the flash is working fine but the screen looks black, try turning off "live view display".
@@TwoDentists thanks! Yes, I had my EFV settings off, I changed it to live view display, been getting some great pictures thanks to your videos!
That's awesome!
Was looking at the Sony ZV-E10 as another mirrorless option, its essentially the same as the A6400 but without a viewfinder, would you say viewfinders are needed? or does it not matter so much in mirrorless dental photography?
Even though I don't use the viewfinder often when using my A6400 I still think it's a good option to have in certain situations. I also use my A6400 outside of dentistry for general photography and I use the viewfinder then.
@@TwoDentists thanks for the reply! what kind of situations do you use it in dental photog?
I want to buy camera , but not sure which better for orthodont, canon 850d or 250d or nikon 5600, which one do you recommend ?lens as you explained sir have to buy without auto focus like 100mm 2.8 canon usm ? (Is usm) not better for dental photos? And flash godox mf12 , thank you .
Hello! Have a look at our vlog post for our recommendations. The mf12 flash is great!
www.twodentists.com/dental-photography-equipment-ultimate-guide-2021/
Hello is the Godox MF-R76S ring flash compatible with the samyang lens?
Yes, but as the prices for the Sony 90mm lens have come down I would recommend it more than the samyang lens
Hi ! What do you think about this one Sony FE 100mm f/2.8 STF GM OSS ?
Hello! I think the Sony FE 100mm GM lens is a bit over the top for dental photography. You also can't see the magnification ratio on the ring like with the 90mm lens. I still prefer the Sony FE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OSS
Hello, I am considering a A6500. Do you think it will perform like the 6400?
Hi Mattias, yes it will perform exactly the same 👌🏽
Hello! I already have a Sony Alpha A500 body do you think it can work for dental photography?
Unfortunately not as it does not have a hot shoe mount for the flash
I have the sony a6400+ sony 90mm lens
I have the issue of unsharpness in manual focus with cavity preparations posteriorly although enabling the focus peaking settings...any help?
Sometimes this can happen. You need to get used to using manual focus. It may be that you need to get a tiny bit closer or further away so the camera focus on the cavity preparation rather than the gums or the tip of the tooth. Also make sure that you're shooting at F22. Sometimes it's also helpful to take the photo at a bit closer to 1:3 magnification ratio as you will be further out and have a bigger depth of focus 👌🏼
What do you recommend for canon mirrorless camera like canon rp?!
Hello, I haven't personally used any canon mirrorless cameras for dental photography but I don't see any reason as to why it wouldn't work. However, you will need a lens adapter to fit the canon 100mm macro lens. You will need a Canon EF-EOS M Mount Adapter.
I have bought the flash and camera seeing this video.I have saved the settings in MR mode of Sony A6400.Whenever I try to take photo with the 1st setting you mentioned with Mieke flash they come up dark. I replicated exact setting as you have mentioned and still no luck.Do I need to take photos in MR mode,M or A mode ??Please help
Hi Shilpi! Congratulations on your big purchase 🥳🥳 I have replied to your message on Instagram, hopefully can solve your problem 🙌🏽
Hello. Doctor do you ever try Sony a7iii/Iv?
Hello Hendy, yes I have tried both cameras and they are amazing! They would be great for an advanced dental photography user
@Two Dentist Thanks for great videos! Need an advice. I'm going to buy Sony A6000 + Samyang 100mm lens + Meike MK-MT24S. I found 2 comments on amazon stating that Meike MK-MT24S does NOT work fine with lenses that are only manual focus, which is samyang.. Those comments were from guys with newer Sony A7RIII. Will my setup work?.. In the video you are woring with 2 setups that are 1) 'Samyang 100mm' + 'Nissin MF18 Ring Flash' and 2) 'Sony 90mm macro lens' + 'Meike MK-MT24S twin flash'. Can you please check 'Samyang 100mm' + 'Meike MK-MT24S twin flash'..
The comments and issue explanation I was talking about are from those amazon link in the description
Hi Mikhail, the saymayng 100mm lens will work fine with the twin flash as I have used it before. Check out 3:50 in this video where I show you the photo I took with the A6400, meike twin flash and the samyang 100mm lens.
@@TwoDentists Thanks!
What do you think of canon m50 for dental photography?
Hello, I haven't personally used any canon mirrorless cameras for dental photography but I don't see any reason as to why it wouldn't work. However, you will need a lens adapter to fit the canon 100mm macro lens. You will need a Canon EF-EOS M Mount Adapter.
Please help i need to record live surgery, with high resolution intraoral procedure video...i have sony Alpha camera... looking for lens which can capture good quality videos for a certain distance in working setup
Check out this Sony lens: amzn.to/3QMPygb
You would need to set it up above the patients head
Dear Dr, Sony 90mm lowest aperture can’t go lower than F22, is that enough dental photograph?.
Yes it's more than enough!
What do u think of nikon z fc and nikkor 50m macro lens together ?
I think it would be better to get a lens with a focal length closer to 100mm. Even 60mm is better, you may struggle with 50mmn
You can consider the Nikkor Z MC 105mm f/2.8 VR S macro lens but it looks like it doesn't show you the magnification ratio on the ring. So harder to get consistent 1:3 ratio photos in Manual focus mode for example
Please we need a specific video about meke twin flash settings and how to link it together
Hi Omar, I have explained this for the Meike flash in this video, was there anything specific you struggled with?
@@TwoDentists thanks buddy everything is great now thanks 🙏
Hi. For sony a6400, other than 90mm macro lens, what other lens that can you recommend?
Im short btw ☺️
Unfortunately there are not any other lenses other than the sony 90mm macro lens that I can recommend. The choice is very limited at the moment for sony mirrorless cameras.
@@TwoDentists how about 50mm f2.8 sony lens?
The focal length of 50mm is not good for dental photography.
Please do Fuji guide
Hey, unfortunately we haven't had the chance to test any Fuji set ups. Maybe one day!
Hello doctor, thank you for this amazing video, but I’m facing a problem! The issue is that the screen is too dark to see the patient’s teeth or anything! Is that normal? I take the shot blindly
What camera and flash are you using?
@@TwoDentists sony a7iii and Sony macro lens and i do use twin and ring flash , the same brands you mentioned before i guess
Are the flashes firing properly?
Sometimes when the trigger on top of the camera is not put in properly the camera doesn't recognise that you have a flash attached.
Alternatively you can try turning off live view display in the settings
how do you feel about the good mf12
I think you mean the Godox mf12? I think it's fantastic! It's the flash I now use with this trigger: geni.us/Godox-X2T-S
why use sony while most dental photography guru are in nikon or canon?
Because of focus peaking in Mirrorless cameras! Have a look at our photography equipment video where I explain it more:
th-cam.com/video/-YG_xCA7Fww/w-d-xo.html
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