@@cygnustsp The funny thing to me is the "better " james got a signing, the more generic he became. I just can't stand when people blurt out "Yeah!" alll the time in their vocals.
100% true. After playing Metallica for months, Rust In Peace in general was hard, but ok to learn. But, when we talk about Dave heroin days, I just can't learn a LOT of Killing/Peace Sells/SFSGSW riffs. Always there're a "easy" song in the album like, Mechanix, Peace Sells, In My Darkest Hour, but Dave almost lead in rhythms, it's crazy. Black Friday and Wake Up Dead after the spider chord is just impossible for me. I still struggle in some Justice riffs, but if I put the time that I'd needed to learn Holy Wars, for sure I would have already got the entire Justice mastered. And I still can't do 100% Rust In Peace. That's my experience playing these wonderful bands.
My first songs I learned was Metallica. I learned three of them before I could play one 1/4 of one song from Megadeth. Megadeth songs are just too hard to learn.
@@1otherside to play mechanix at the same tempo, as clear and do it the entire song through, requires serious rhythm and endurance skills. It’s insanely fast, yes far simpler than a lot of the other songs I agree. But still incredibly difficult to match the record, however like you say, the other songs from that first lineup period and sfsgsw are just mind blowing when breaking them down to try and learn. Dave really is the thrash metal riff god.
Muscle memory. Same with yngwie, bc a guy that old normally shouldn't be able to shred like that😅 And of course technical efficiency plays a huge role. Kiko is the perfect example, he puts as little strain as possible on himself, hence why he doesn't regress technically. Of course he will naturally get slower, he won't be able to shred like 20 when he's 80, but he sure as will be the best 80 year old in the world😂
@Menyukai_wanita_tak_berhijab Sure technically but listening to that souless wank fest that is Dream Theater makes me die inside so there's that. Never in musical history has so much talent been wasted on the compositional equivalents of a barium enema.
Chris Poland was perfect for Megadeths early thrash days in the 80's, but Marty basically gave them their most iconic sounds like Rust in Peace and Countdown, Kiko is very good with coming up with solos and replicating Marty's/Chris's play style. So in a way they are amazing in their own ways.
Favorite Megadeth lead player is Marty. I dig his writing and sound the most. Chris Broderick’s technique and mastery is insane though, and Chris Poland’s style was pretty sweet too.
Chris poland laid down some of the hardest solos to play, everyone after him struggled with his solos except jeff young who imo is a underrated melodic shredder
I like Chris Poland on The System has failed. Chris Broderick endgame and Marty on Rust in Peace we all know who was the best. But I prefer Chris Poland maybe because he was an original member.
Megadeth is the band that first intrigued me to the point where they were the only band I listened to for months on end in high school. Regardless if it was their early thrash years ('85-'90) or their more commercial period in the 90s, I love all of their albums and songs! Even albums like Thirteen are highly underrated with the amount of gems they consist of (Fast Lane and Never Dead to name a few)
Personally, I like better Metallica. Don't get me wrong, I like 'em both. It's just that I discovered Metallica first and there is some personal attachment. Regarding Dave's vocals, on studio it's not that bad, but when it comes to live performances I can't stand it (it's so eerie that it's painful).
More complex is not necessarily better, but when you listen to enough music, simple and predictable patterns start to bore you and you'll seek more complex songwriting
Not necessarily. For me, I ventured far into heavier music in my late teens to mid 20s and now Im tired of complexity and a lot of it just for complexity’s sake. I find now that a hardhitting and well written song is just better. Its harder still, to do both complex and well written at the same time. Both metallica and megadeth have accomplished this.
@@Squall6575 It's not just about complexity. I like a lot of simple music. There is also simple but creative, and simple and uninspiring. Metallica basically has been uninspiring forever. I cannot name one significant drummer in metal who is worse than Lars. They literally wrote the worst album ever. I can go on. Nothing against Metallica. They have a lot of good stuff, James is a great song writer. Even load, reload etc have good moments. It's the uninspiring part why people call them too simpler or boring. And a lot of this is due to Lars.
This is how I feel about it as well, we grow accustomed and search for something more interesting, that's why I personally enjoy more technical stuff more than I did before because it's less predictable, or sometimes even completely original. I think that's also why people like Anthony fantano rate such strange albums so highly
Exactly, I started out with simple stuff like Metallica and nu metal, am currently in progressive and death metal, it just got.... old. Unlike Megadeth, I'll always come back.
It depends on which albums you compare, really. Master of Puppets is actually really complex, ...and Justice for All has very hard songs. And comparing anything with Rust In Peace is just unfair, you just can't beat it
Rust In Peace and Master of Puppets are unstoppable. You can't compare anything to both of them. My personal favorite album from Metallica is Death Magnetic and my favorite from Megadeth is Rust in Peace.
I love both bands. The difference I find is: Megadeth have unique and technically amazing songs, and Metallica have epic albums as a whole. Both have a place on my turntable as both serve the same purpose to my soul.
For me, Rust in Peace is the best metal album ever. The riffs, the vocals, the lyrics... it's literally non stop perfection start to finish. When I listen to RIP I never find myself waiting for the good part or the exciting part... it's all the good part. Dave Mustaine is also just fucking awesome and I love the dude. I love Metallica too but it just doesn't hit the spot the way that Megadeth does.
Yes. Also therr are three masterpieces there: "Tornado of souls", "Holy wars... The punishment due", and "Hangar 18". Even one of that songs would have made Megadeth big. That is without taking in consideration songs like "Lucretia" with an unbelievable solo or "Five magics", another gem too.
I feel the exact same, but for me, although I love Megadeth, it never hits the same way metallica does. I think Metallica is a much more cohesive and dynamic band, being able to span different genres and write stronger songs, but Megadeth is right up there. I consider Rust in Peace, Master Of Puppets and Ride the Lightning a joint 3 way tie for greatest metal albums of all time
When I got into thrash I thought Metallica was the best then I heard the riffs on the song killing is my business and knew right there megadeth was in a different ballpark of skill. The early stuff is so raw and technical I now use some of those early riffs as a warm up now
Kirk is a good guitarist and good writer of riffs, I admire him a bit; however, Marty Friedman, Chris Poland and Dave Mustaine himself are another level.
@@josephwalker7432 Not the lead guitarist? Holy Wars final solo, Mechanix' solo. Megadeth's guitarists are BOTH leads. As it happens with many other bands. Slayer, Deicide, Testament, Flotsam and Jetsam, etc.
Agreed. Love 'em all! Definitely more complexity in Megadeth's music, but MetallicA is iconic and brilliant just the same as Megadeth in my opinion. I totally agree the rift between them created the best situation for metal music scene and us fans.
I wouldn't say that the most complex is the best. Though you are forgetting about Cliff Burton's era. I personally would consider the magnum opus of that era would either be Orion or The Call of Ktulu when it comes to their musical ability.
@@curtwehrmeyer124 how? Because they use the same chords for a piece of their music? It's like saying that Tornado of Souls opening guitar part ripped off of the transition into Tony Iommi's guitar solo in Iron Man. Using the same chords is not writing a song/insteumental. Was it the same way Dave did? Were they arpeggios or chords? The same rhythm, or was it just the use of the same notes but played in a different way? If that's the case, then the person who discovered the musical scaled would be the ones who wrote all the music in the world.
I love both bands but megadeth is the reason I picked up a guitar Mustaine is such an inspiration and to make it in metal after being kicked out of the biggest band ever is no easy feat!
Metallica have the same guys since Dave other than on bass of which they have only had 2 bassists leave the band since Dave left and one of them unfortunately passed away at a young age meanwhile Dave has been through 22 members in a shorter time frame. Tell me who is hard to get along with and who isn't lol.
Listening the best guitarists in Megadeth is so hard because they all gave something different but I'll try!!! 1.) Marty Freidman - Nothing needs to be said about his greatness 2.) Chris Broderick - He can play anything note for note and his classical chops are insane! 3.) Chris Polland - Interesting Jazz Fusion inspired solo and his phrasing (chefs kiss!) 4.) Kiko - Kiko is amazing maybe the best technically with Broderick and Jeff Young. 5.) Al Pitrelli - He is so underrated and never got a chance with Megadeth 6.) Jeff Young - Another virtuoso that never got a chance to show his chops. 7.) Glen Drover - Glen was a right guy at the right time guy and put out some great stuff with Mega-Dave.
Megadeth is great, what Metallica seem to have more than just about any other metal bad is an anthem like quality that just gets everybody going, even those not really into metal. Megadeth really rewards repeated listens though, and that's one thing I search for in music.
@@ConspiracyRangr there’s a Japanese 12 year old somewhere that plays guitar better than everyone from Metallica and megadeath combined. Again, you are conflating difficulty/complexity with artistic merit. Bob Dylan has strummed three chord songs that are better than any megadeath song.
The war between the two fandoms will probably never stop, yet for me a thing is certain. Both bands are absolutely amazing, it just comes down to one's preference, no need to hate on one band or the other simply because it doesn't appeal to you as much. I thoroughly enjoy both Megadeth and Metallica, but when it comes to personal preference, for me it would be 57% Megadeth, 43% Metallica. Yup, still think both bands are legendary🤘🏻
I feel exactly like you except I prefer metallica by that same margin lol. I don't understand why people pick sides and only wanna like one or the other and diss on the other. I feel this happens more coming from megadeth fanboys based on what I've seen but I've seen it coming from both sides which is ridiculous.
I appreciate both. Particularly pre-Black album Metallica. Dave wanted Megadeth to be Bigger, Louder, and Faster. And 2 out of 3 Ain't bad. My biggest problem with Metallica is, and always will be Bro-Dude James stage presence, and Lars. Nothing specific about Lars, just Lars. He bugs the everloving crap out of me. And just before somebody jumps in and decides that I'm just picking on Lars, Dave is no angel. Far from it. Some of the stuff he's said in interviews and whatnot over the years, I flat out can't defend. But I can separate Dave the guy, from Dave the Songwriter/Singer/Guitarist. Megadeth has had some fantastic lead guitar players, and I constantly see this debate about "Who's the best guitarist Megadeth has had" and it's a silly question. Dave is the best guitarist Megadeth has had. A) He was the Lead in Metallica, prior to the split, B) Watch the interviews, not just with Dave, but with Kiki, Marty, Chris (Poland/Broderick) does anybody here really think that he had no input into the lead parts, and/or can't play them himself? And yes, I will gladly take the Man behind the kit banging on the skins in Megadeth over Lars. I don't care which one, they've all been better. I don't hate Metallica, I don't think Dave is some kind of god, or that there was ever really a fight. Whatever it is that makes music appeal to one person, and not to another, Megadeth does a better job of making me *feel* something, overall. So they get the nod.
I love both, but Metallica has this raw, almost punk edge that has made them age a little better for me…first five albums at least….Though I think Megadeths later work has probably been stronger than Metallica’s later at work.
@@Brenzoink I agree with you on that , Metallica went from " keep up with us if you are Metal" all the way to " Hey drunk slob in the corner we wrote this for you to enjoy "
@@aimtenshi I bet they both would have eventually quit. Cliff wouldn't fit in with all that comercial shit. Just look at him. Him, and Dave was the balls.
So therefore he should only be mentioned to say that. Yeah he's considered a professional guitar player but unfortunately so are people like Jack white and MGK and they are absolutely garbage players in comparison. Definitely not how you play its who you know.
Recorded Megadeth are probably better, they certainly create more complex music and have had more talented musicians in the band. Live there's no competition; Metallica destroy Megadeth. I find Megadeth a little boring to watch live and Dave's voice doesn't hold up well (seen both bands live many times over the last 30+ years). All that being said I still think MoP is the most important metal album ever and Metallica probably hold more places in my top 20 songs than Megadeth do. Marty is probably the most important guitarist Megadeth ever had and, honestly, if you look at his body of work he's done far more than any other guitarist Megadeth ever has, even teaching the legendary Jason Becker as a teenager. I believe Dave has said in interviews that Marty's playing encouraged him to become better, more exploratory and cleaner as a lead guitarist which I think shows over albums after RIP.
I agree. Megadeth made more albums while Metallica went on 3 year long world tours. Megadeth is cool to see live as its insane to see them flex those solos, but once you've seen them, you've seen them. Metallica is a monster live and sell out everywhere they go. Ive seen megadeth play 4k seat concert hall before, and play for half filled amphitheaters. But I loved megadeth putting out albums virtually every two years, seemed every time you turned around they were dropping something new. Mad respect to metallica, its great they sold out all those shows, but I prefer megadeth's vast library.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. No doubt Megadeth have always had the superior musicians when it comes to skills and mastery. Metallica have always emphasised more melody and emotion with their song writing, and live, yup, as a live unit they've always been superior at that. James has a superior voice too. With all that said however they are brother bands; one brother is the ginger, more complex one, the other the more commercially accessible, melodic brother.
It's rather unfair to compare Megadeth in terms of live performances since their lineup has changed countless times and Metallica's has remained the same for so long. And Megadeth was certainly no slouch back in their heyday
I used to feel that way as well now it just depends on the mood. Sometimes I really prefer Megadeth over Metallica. I think Metallica had better full albums for sure with their first 5 albums but after that they haven't since. Megadeth has had more killer singles in my opinion. Both are great bands can't go wrong with either.
@@unrepentantoffender188 okey i really dont care about english grammers, but i did get the messages throught, that i prefair Metallica little more then Megadeth? Right? I am not even american or english, English is not my main language at all.
The way he sings and plays Tornado of Souls is insanity, and I hate to say it but most of Metallica their old hits Dave had a hand in, people seem to forget that
In my opinion, more complex =/= better I prefer metallica, but i do love some megadeth songs Somedays im in the mood for more complex stuff, sometimes i just wanna listen to like, Enter sandman or something Depends on the day
The conflict between these two bands will never end for sure. everyone has different tastes. I'm someone who usually finds the musical part more important in metal music, so Megadeth is better for me. but for someone else, the vocal part may be more important, or they may like Metallica-style riffs more.
Vocals aren’t music? Lmfao. Also, there’s no comparison between megadeath and Metallica. If Dave wasn’t in Metallica no one would think to compare the two bands. Metallica sold like hundred million albums and sell out sport stadiums, megadeath doesn’t even sell out small theaters sometimes and they haven’t even cracked ten million albums sold.
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 🤣 kid. It's not about who sold most albums it's about the "style" And music. And the fuck you are talking about theatre's and stuff 😂
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 they've sold almost 40 million and they're clearly not as relatable as Metallica. Comparing album sales doesn't tell the whole tale although I agree that I like Metallica more I just think comparing records sold isn't a good measurement of what is better. By the same token neither is saying the one that is more technical is automatically "better" neither of these things are true. I do like Metallica more overall I just prefer their style I love the way James plays and sings and I love Kirk's melodic solos over just fast shredding which megadeth seem to do more. Both are great but megadeth have sold nearly 40 mil tho
@@HeathenDance I don't watch music as competition anymore, but seeing comments like "they don't hold candle to Metallica" need to be put in their place
@@amirphoenix2327 That sounds more like an issue of not understanding the subjectivity of art. If someone likes any artist more than the other it's pointless to try to "put them in their place" since when you state your opinion you can't be wrong.
@@Evil_Peter ok, but in which department they can't hold candle to them, drums, guitar, lyrics... I understand if you like something more or less but that comment was referring to Metallica as "superior" band
I think the Hetfield vocals are simply more "palatable" to the masses, so that gives Metallica the slight edge in that regard. Though I fully agree with Megadeth superfans assertions. I love both of them. I think late in their careers Megadeth is well ahead of Metallica in the "songwriting" department. Metallica's feel lazy & uninspired. IMO
I find megadeth’s later stuff to sound like no name thrash. Same with Metallica, but at least the riffs have some personality to them. My apocalypse, that was just your life, Broken beaten and scarred. All killer riffs. I can’t think of one riff that blew my socks off in a later album at all.😊
Metallica can write some complex songs like the one's in MOP and Justice, and some simpler one's like the Black Album and make them sound badass. Meanwhile, Megadeth is really hit or miss with their simpler songs (which are pretty forgettable for the most part). IMO versatility is superior to complexity, so Metallica takes it all the way.
I m a huge megadeth fan, but you got a point with your argument. I also think that melodies and slow parts are better done by Metallica. I think it s a matter of taste overall, Megadeth are probably heavier
@@Brettwbeyer14 not on the level of Metallica. They set the standard early in their career. They've written some of the most ferocious thrash songs, possibly the greatest instrumentals and power ballads of all time, innovated lead bass parts, and then the stuff they released in the late 90s, which started to grow in people in the past few years. They check off pretty much every box.
Imagine Metallica with Dave instead of Kirk, Cliff still alive and on bass, James on vocals and rhythm guitar as usual, and Dave fucking Lombardo on drums. Dave Mustaine and James Hetfield being the chief writers in the band with Cliff and Lombardo having a hand in the writing on a few songs here and there.
Agreed. Justice is their hardest and darkest album. Jame's lyrics are VERY powerful and still hold up and are very valid today. Like the song And Justice For All... Such a deep and true song 🤘🤘🤘🤘
@Knavery Even with bass boosted fan edits of Justice songs, musically speaking I thought the bass didn't add much to the songs most of the time. Jason almost always doubled the root notes of whatever James was playing and rarely ever deviated from that.
I would say the opposite is true. Anyone who understands music can hear how indulgent and pompous justice is, not to mention terrible production and no bass. A non-musician has more of a capacity to enjoy it lacking taste.
Just curious to those who think Rust in Peace is the holy grail....was that your first Megadeth album? My first was Peace Sells and I think that destroys RiP.
my first introduction to megadeth was actually their first album. i heard that piano start to play and thought i was being punked. then the real music started. kimb is still and will forever be my favorite megadeth album because it is pure thrash, and mechanix blows the four horsemen out of the water
For me I prefer Metallica during the 80s, and Megadeth was better during the 90s (mostly). Since the year 2000 I've only liked one album from each. Death Magnetic and Endgame respectively. As far as complexity. Normally I wouldn't say complexity automatically makes music better in most situations. Except in Thrash Metal, where I'm pretty sure that's kind of the point to be extremely complex. So at least in this genre it definitely makes the music better. As far a Kirk Hammet. His solos all kind of sound the same to me. He seems like he's gotten lazy in his composition over the years. In response to album sales, it just goes to show how the vast majority of consumers of music are a bunch of empty skulled mouth breathers who shy away from deeper music
I agree that Kirk Hammett became really lazy over the years, but in the 80s he was a beast. Now he repeat too much the same things and abuse of his wah pedal
Sorry, but if you're looking for intricacy then the ...Justice crushes anything that Mustaine and his band of revolving door shred ringers can cobble together. Dyers Eve - nuff said. Go home. And Marty was megadeth's best guitarist.
Kiko, on the paper is the best guitarist, as he is currently, hands down, one of the top 20 guitarists in the world for technique, taste and musical knowledge
Technically they are. However, Dave’s vocals take them down a few notches so it kinda levels out in the end. James edges out Dave. Megadeth was actually my gateway to Metallica and just preferred Metallica song structure and vocals more. I also prefer Kirk’s early melodic soloing IE Master of Puppets. MoP beats out anything from Megadeth overall.
Daves vocals are so much better than Janes's, although, Janes's vocals were better than they are now, before he got sober, they were never better than Dave's...
This feud has been going on since as long as I have heard of either back in the 80s. My opinion hasn't changed. Megadeth is better. Edit oh and Marty. I love Polands solo work which is better than his Megadeth work but overall Marty takes it.
Been with Megadeth since they started, yeah Im that old 56. I like Metallica and no doubt they are good. It seems like Kirk has gotten lazy, I cant remember when he played a solo thats memorable at all and as a guitar player its a let down to see a once world class player result to Pentatonics and a Wah pedal. On the other hand I believe Megadeth is unrivaled. The more complex songs are what we the fans want and expect from Dave and he delivers in a big way. I wont touch who is the better guitar player for Megadeth, Ill leave it as the big three ( They are all above Hammet and I do hate to say that ) I will say Metallicas best sound in my opinion was the Garage Days album, that was bad ass and I was thinking why did you change that. Over all Megadeth is the better band in my opinion. I shared Daves anger back in the day and that attracted me, the guitar was blazing unlike anything I ever heard and Daves voice is one of a kind along with the wicked lyrics. Megadeth is unrivaled !! By the way Kiko had Marty contribute on a solo album, its called Open Source and the song is Imminent Threat. Enjoy you can hear some of Daves riffing and chugs in there as its in their souls now.
the voice in this live performance is edited doesn't it? Currently Dave's voice is more deep and rough. And well for me Kiko is the most talented guitarrist Megadave ever had, but Marty's legacy with the band is second to none
I think is only in the video or maybe in this one to avoid copyright. At that year, Megadeth was already playing their songs in D tuning, here it sounds in E and yes, the audio quality and high pitch make it obvious that the video is edited.
@@KimoFest If i'm not wrong the live performances are not copyrighted, but I understand your point hahaha. But I'd have preferred the live from resurrection fest in 2018, it has a great quality sound
Metallica really may be "better" overall, but the cold hard fact that Megadeth is the unthinkable, direct answer, to what happened to Dave WITH Metallica. Paints the coolest hero/villain story. Just unreal
Megadeth ftw! I was listening to both Megadeth and Metallica in my teens and it’s Megadeth Dave and Marty who inspired me to pick up the guitar. Until now, it’s Megadeth for me. Learning their riffs and solos are much more fulfilling as they are harder and more complex.
I love them both but since load Metallica lost their edge in just my opinion and my music taste changed as I explored more bands. The key to Metallica's success is they evolved their sound to be more accessible and it paid off. Dave tried accessible with some degrees of success. Risk and super collider were failures to capture a different audience but they evolved the band's sound in my opinion. It's all good music to different ears and metal would be a different place without them both 🤘
Best Megadeth guitarist: I really like Kiko and I love following his behind the scenes videos. He really knows how to connect with the audience. I love his work on the Dystopia album and the constant soloing; that gets my heart pumping. However, there is a grittiness and command over the music that Marty has. I love the sounds/effects that Marty provides. The music sounds like it was born with him (of course he did write many of the solos).
I have learned lots more solos from Marty friedman. Then Chris Poland. Poland s stuff is very weird. Kiko plays in drop tuning. So, it never caught my eye 👁. Marty friedman can construct a perfect solo.
i also like Dave vocals they are always perfect match for the Song in his band black friday is gnarly one of my favorite songs by Megadeth Conjuring 502 Hook in mouth Holy Wars is really top notch
I've always been more into Metallica. James has a more powerful stage presence, better voice, and his lyrics are more relatable to me. The other thing I like about Metallica are the more groovy riffs. That being said, I don't think it necessarily makes them a better band overall.
Dave has a much better voice. It's not monotone and actually has some range and definitely is much more unique. Jason Newstead does better on vocals then James when they would let him do it.
@Michael Hassler James has shown his range throughout ballads and different ablums throughout the decades. James is far from monotone. To me, it sounds like Dave is trying to hard to sound like something he's not.
@@michaelhassler7446 I don’t think I’ve heard anyone sound like James Hetfield either…. On Each album his voice sounds almost completely different after RTL
I was a Teenager in the early 90s when I first started getting into Thrash and all the older metal heads at the time always said either you are a Metallica fan or a Megadeth fan, you can’t be both. Since I 1st head Metallica first I chose to be a Metallica fan and it wasn’t until many many many years later i actually sat and listened to Megadeth and boy was I missing out on some great music! I’m 44 years old and I STILL blast Thrash all day long everywhere I go. I guess I’m just a sucker for old school thrash metal! \m/
Damn this song still gives me goosebumps even after all these years. Fucking amazing song. So many amazing parts, so well written, and so seemless... this is a timeless perfect song. 👍🤘
Ive always had more of a connection to Metallica's music. It just makes me feel more, gets me going more. But from a guitar-players point of view it is more rewarding getting a Megadeth riff or solo dead on. Dave's solo have very little story to tell or feeling while Kirk's solo's you can sing along to and really fit the song. Marty on the other hand has the best style of soloing in my ears to this day. Other then that James just has the best metal voice and lyrics ever. Dave's voice takes some getting used to and wont click with you after one listen. I mean just look at the sales and you know who is the better band, their music is just reaching out and grabbing new fans every day while with Megadeth it takes a while. But i would say every fan that loves Metallica will almost certainly also love Megadeth. ( just wont buy the albums hehe).
More sales doesn't qualify as the better band, what criteria are you measuring "better" here? The Beatles have sold more than Metallica, but I wouldn't say it's due to the Beatles being a better band. Metallica sold more than Megadeth because they were more melodic, catchier, anthemic and accessible. They also developed a large following in the underground before breaking into the mainstream years earlier than Megadeth did. James' better vocals played a huge part in that as well. Megadeth have *some* melodic songs however overall they're more technical and aggressive, and Dave's vocals are snottier and thus not as accessible. In fact they're polarising. 😂 They're distinctive and suit Megadeth but they're simply not as strong as James'.
Kirk have like 5 good solos in the most important Metallica's albums, literally the most of it sounds the same, I mean it's the same with Mustaine but c'mon, Kirk doesn't do solos that goes with the songs he just solos what he want and sometimes he casually fit with the song, like ride the lightning or the shortest straw, but not usually
As long as the actual music is full of talent, passion, and innovation; there is no better band. It’s just preference at that point. A favorite band is kind of like picking a partner in life: there may be more attractive, intelligent, talented, or whatever other traditionally desirable adjective fish in the sea, but only that one person can hit that perfect spot for you.
All of this is based on opinion, not fact. It's very, very subjective. Thanks for sharing your opinion! Here's my opinion: Metallica>Megadeth and it's not even close.
Ha i was wondering how people are not vringing this up. Megadeath havig complicated melodies is great and all but it doesnt help me to like it when theres some drunk man screeching and squeaking over it all. Take the mic from Dave and i would probably love it.
I can play and sing Holy Wars in its totality- rhythm only, never bothered to nail down the solos note for note- and yes I can assure you, it is really tricky to sync the vocals and play the riffs, takes a good bit of practice. What I did was play it over and over, to the album version without singing a word, so I could play the riffs in my sleep ya know? Only then, when the vocals AND riffs were seared in my head, from listening and playing it over and over did I try singing over the top. 🤘
In my opinion, Metallica's style is more appealing to average human beings earing departments...Megadeth are more for those who are more in the music business in general, for musicans who really are studying music. A musician would get bored with Metallica, especially with their very poor live performances...poor from a pure technical point of view...Metallica (especially Lars Urlich) are too sloppy (not the bass though)
Not true at all. I’ve heard many musicians claim how much they respect Metallica’s music even if they aren’t fans of metal. I’ve yet to meet a musician that respects megadeath. I’m sure they are out there but I haven’t met one. Compared to Metallica megadeath is obscure. And it’s my understanding Metallica’s live shows were tight and powerful musically early on.
I’ve not heard anyone describe as having poor technique once in my life. And as someone who is interested in being a musician, I have been bored with a Megadeath song much more often than I’ve been bored with a Metallica song. I love them entirely equally.
OH MY GOD MAN !!!! How do i find the girl @ 7:40 ?????? She is my SOULMATE !!!! The fact that she is THAT INTO that chorus-bridge, and KNOWS THE ACTUAL LYRICS, dude that tells me everything i need to know !!!!!
To be frank, Dave has more overall technical talent. Just a statement of fact. But Metallica has better music. Period. Megadeth has nothing in their catalog that makes me headbang like Battery or Harvester of Sorrow. No metal group has more relatable and more sing along songs than Metallica. I’ve never minded or cared that Dave was the technically better one. He got back on track and got his own band, and that’s great. Edit: and while Dave dwarfs James’ guitar skills, James dwarfs Dave in vocal skills.
I think James is a better guitarist honestly, he completely wipes the floor with Dave on rhythm and his solos are a lot more memorable and soulful. Dave's solos sound the same for the most part. They're shreddy obviously, but there's really nothing else to them.
Megadeth has more than 10 albums and so more than 1000 songs, you should listen to "Countdown tl extinction", "Youthanasia" and "Risk". Metallica has only 5 albums while Megadeth more than 10.
Metallica is the main driving force of metal which likes to make things sound the best they can and they did it well and Megadeth likes to play more complicated stuff and make it sound good but they have one thing in common they are a part of peak metal things they have in common :iconic sound :iconic vocals :iconic history :relevance to each other
Correction: Megadeth has sold 50M+ records worldwide compared to Metallica's 125M. Still a huge difference, but you have to keep in mind that in the 90s, the same people who were listening to Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys were also jumping on the Metallica bandwagon. That never happened with Megadeth. Their fans remained Rock and Metal purists.
That was one of reason Dave got kicked out of Metallica. Metallica wanted to be more Rhythm based, and Dave want to be more lead based. Megadeth is more complex music, just look at the sheet music. In the end a good song is a good song no mater how many notes. 2 different types of metal.
Holy Wars is hard because of the two guitarists playing complimentary chords. While Mustaine is playing a major 3rds Friedman is playing Perfect fifths simultaneously.. makes it sound really thick..
Agreed. It’s a personal decision. I get why Metallica is more popular, but I like Megadeth more. Always liked both too, never got why some chuds make it an either or thing. Most people I know who like one also like the other. But Metallica is so accessible and mainstream, there’s tons of people who don’t like metal but love Metallica somehow. I’m also a guitar player, and playing along with songs from both Megadeth and Metallica helped me level up. Definitely have to be at another level to pull off Megadeth songs. More shred knowledge being dropped.
One can easily say that Metallica is a better band overall. The synthesis of the songs, the sound and if u may, the image, seem more efficient than that of Megadeth. Undoubtedly, Megadeth have many epic songs, and Marty is a diamond, although their songs don't communicate as well as Metallica's to the listeners.
It is, how you ever tried to sing a megadeth while playing it on guitar? Metallica is heavy metal for dancing, megadeth is heavy metal for smashing the planet into a grain of sand
Metallica used to be my favourite as a kid but I gave Megadeth chance and now it’s my all time favourite band
Yup, Metallica is awesome, but Megadeth seems to never get old played out or tired. It actually seems to get better the more you listen.
I started listening to Metallica when i was 33 y old (MOP and AJFA albums), too many years later discovered Rust in Peace. Megadeth is way better.
Watch them both live and Megadeth is fucking boring
One day you may realize that Slayer is better than either of them.
Love both, but Metallica has a way more interesting and diverse discography.
I don't get the hate that Dave usually gets for his vocals. I love his style. Like you said, it's iconic. Nobody will ever sound like Dave.
Same here. Absolutely love his snarl. James's singing is boring to me. But I've always liked odd singers, like Billy Corgan and Ian Anderson.
@@cygnustsp The funny thing to me is the "better " james got a signing, the more generic he became. I just can't stand when people blurt out "Yeah!" alll the time in their vocals.
Layne Staley singing exactly like Dave, disproving your theory: th-cam.com/video/n3o8Rj2TTig/w-d-xo.html
James' vocals are some of the best in metal history. Dave's are awful.
‘Nobody will ever sound like Dave’
I don’t think anybody wants to lmao his voice is putrid.
I’ve been trying to learn some megadeth recently and I’ve realized how much harder it is compared to learning metallica in my early stages of playing
Yea timing kicks you in the ass. But man its fun
Tornado Of Souls kicked my ass.
100% true.
After playing Metallica for months, Rust In Peace in general was hard, but ok to learn. But, when we talk about Dave heroin days, I just can't learn a LOT of Killing/Peace Sells/SFSGSW riffs. Always there're a "easy" song in the album like, Mechanix, Peace Sells, In My Darkest Hour, but Dave almost lead in rhythms, it's crazy. Black Friday and Wake Up Dead after the spider chord is just impossible for me.
I still struggle in some Justice riffs, but if I put the time that I'd needed to learn Holy Wars, for sure I would have already got the entire Justice mastered. And I still can't do 100% Rust In Peace. That's my experience playing these wonderful bands.
My first songs I learned was Metallica. I learned three of them before I could play one 1/4 of one song from Megadeth. Megadeth songs are just too hard to learn.
@@1otherside to play mechanix at the same tempo, as clear and do it the entire song through, requires serious rhythm and endurance skills. It’s insanely fast, yes far simpler than a lot of the other songs I agree. But still incredibly difficult to match the record, however like you say, the other songs from that first lineup period and sfsgsw are just mind blowing when breaking them down to try and learn. Dave really is the thrash metal riff god.
The fact they can still play this classic with the same speed and ferocity as when first recorded is amazing.
Muscle memory. Same with yngwie, bc a guy that old normally shouldn't be able to shred like that😅
And of course technical efficiency plays a huge role. Kiko is the perfect example, he puts as little strain as possible on himself, hence why he doesn't regress technically. Of course he will naturally get slower, he won't be able to shred like 20 when he's 80, but he sure as will be the best 80 year old in the world😂
Rust in Peace ... ALL songs in that album have insanely intricate riffs. And Dave plays them all while singing. Crazy!
More than intricate riff are Dream Theater band 😂
@Menyukai_wanita_tak_berhijab Sure technically but listening to that souless wank fest that is Dream Theater makes me die inside so there's that. Never in musical history has so much talent been wasted on the compositional equivalents of a barium enema.
Chris Poland was perfect for Megadeths early thrash days in the 80's, but Marty basically gave them their most iconic sounds like Rust in Peace and Countdown, Kiko is very good with coming up with solos and replicating Marty's/Chris's play style. So in a way they are amazing in their own ways.
When is the new album
@@BOBANDVEG when is the losing of virginity for yourself?
@@Brenzoink leave it out Pal
@@BOBANDVEG coming in July, is the latest word, Dave said, in a recent interview...cant wait for it...
Bah Dave wrote everything anyway.
Favorite Megadeth lead player is Marty. I dig his writing and sound the most. Chris Broderick’s technique and mastery is insane though, and Chris Poland’s style was pretty sweet too.
Love Broderick. ENDGAME rules.
Poland wrote most of the groundwork for RIPs solos. Chris is just as technical as Marty.
Chris poland laid down some of the hardest solos to play, everyone after him struggled with his solos except jeff young who imo is a underrated melodic shredder
When is new album?
I like Chris Poland on The System has failed. Chris Broderick endgame and Marty on Rust in Peace we all know who was the best. But I prefer Chris Poland maybe because he was an original member.
Megadeth is the band that first intrigued me to the point where they were the only band I listened to for months on end in high school. Regardless if it was their early thrash years ('85-'90) or their more commercial period in the 90s, I love all of their albums and songs!
Even albums like Thirteen are highly underrated with the amount of gems they consist of (Fast Lane and Never Dead to name a few)
Personally, I like better Metallica. Don't get me wrong, I like 'em both. It's just that I discovered Metallica first and there is some personal attachment. Regarding Dave's vocals, on studio it's not that bad, but when it comes to live performances I can't stand it (it's so eerie that it's painful).
@@alexcostea1455 he used to sound pretty awesome live in the early to mid 90s check out some of those gigs. 92 and 94 era.
More complex is not necessarily better, but when you listen to enough music, simple and predictable patterns start to bore you and you'll seek more complex songwriting
Not necessarily. For me, I ventured far into heavier music in my late teens to mid 20s and now Im tired of complexity and a lot of it just for complexity’s sake. I find now that a hardhitting and well written song is just better. Its harder still, to do both complex and well written at the same time. Both metallica and megadeth have accomplished this.
@@Squall6575 It's not just about complexity. I like a lot of simple music. There is also simple but creative, and simple and uninspiring. Metallica basically has been uninspiring forever. I cannot name one significant drummer in metal who is worse than Lars. They literally wrote the worst album ever. I can go on.
Nothing against Metallica. They have a lot of good stuff, James is a great song writer. Even load, reload etc have good moments. It's the uninspiring part why people call them too simpler or boring. And a lot of this is due to Lars.
This is how I feel about it as well, we grow accustomed and search for something more interesting, that's why I personally enjoy more technical stuff more than I did before because it's less predictable, or sometimes even completely original. I think that's also why people like Anthony fantano rate such strange albums so highly
@Stew Daly St Anger is a strong contender for the snare alone.
Exactly, I started out with simple stuff like Metallica and nu metal, am currently in progressive and death metal, it just got.... old. Unlike Megadeth, I'll always come back.
Rust in Peace is simply unbeatable.... What a metal masterpiece..... I'm always in awe when I hear it. 😩😳👌
It depends on which albums you compare, really. Master of Puppets is actually really complex, ...and Justice for All has very hard songs. And comparing anything with Rust In Peace is just unfair, you just can't beat it
I'm not a big megadeth guy...Rust in Peace is amazing!!!!!
Megadeth has more albums and even Risk is so good in my opinion.
Peace Sells album is insane though.
lool I bet a thousand bucks you never touched a guitar nor a drum set
Rust In Peace and Master of Puppets are unstoppable. You can't compare anything to both of them. My personal favorite album from Metallica is Death Magnetic and my favorite from Megadeth is Rust in Peace.
I love both bands. The difference I find is: Megadeth have unique and technically amazing songs, and Metallica have epic albums as a whole. Both have a place on my turntable as both serve the same purpose to my soul.
For me, Rust in Peace is the best metal album ever. The riffs, the vocals, the lyrics... it's literally non stop perfection start to finish. When I listen to RIP I never find myself waiting for the good part or the exciting part... it's all the good part. Dave Mustaine is also just fucking awesome and I love the dude. I love Metallica too but it just doesn't hit the spot the way that Megadeth does.
Yes. Also therr are three masterpieces there: "Tornado of souls", "Holy wars... The punishment due", and "Hangar 18". Even one of that songs would have made Megadeth big. That is without taking in consideration songs like "Lucretia" with an unbelievable solo or "Five magics", another gem too.
I feel the exact same, but for me, although I love Megadeth, it never hits the same way metallica does. I think Metallica is a much more cohesive and dynamic band, being able to span different genres and write stronger songs, but Megadeth is right up there. I consider Rust in Peace, Master
Of Puppets and Ride the Lightning a joint 3 way tie for greatest metal albums of all time
rust in peace is just perfect
@@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano Your forgot the title track. Rust in peace polaris.
I’m seeing megadeath at download this year 🤘🏽🤘🏽
When I got into thrash I thought Metallica was the best then I heard the riffs on the song killing is my business and knew right there megadeth was in a different ballpark of skill. The early stuff is so raw and technical I now use some of those early riffs as a warm up now
Kirk is a good guitarist and good writer of riffs, I admire him a bit; however, Marty Friedman, Chris Poland and Dave Mustaine himself are another level.
Mustaine’s solos arent that good lol. He shredsbut thats it. He’s better with rhythmic. Kirk has everything. He shreds but also has a lot of feel
@@jclapointe899 dave is not the lead guitarist. you are not adding anything to this conversation, now go listen to some megadeth.
@@jclapointe899 Indeed. Plus, Kirk is able to compose and play longer solos, with different layers and sections.
@@josephwalker7432 Not the lead guitarist? Holy Wars final solo, Mechanix' solo. Megadeth's guitarists are BOTH leads. As it happens with many other bands. Slayer, Deicide, Testament, Flotsam and Jetsam, etc.
@@HeathenDance i wish the algorithm wouldnt delete my comments for calling you the names you deserve to be called for saying something that ridiculous
Dave mustaines rhythm work is unmatched.
Dimebag Darrell...
There’s plenty of better Rhythm guitarists then overrated Dave.
@@jasonclark9963 there may be, but dave and hetfield are the ones who inspired me to pick up a guitar, so they are good to me
@@jasonclark9963I can’t think of one
Marty is honestly my favorite lead guitarist for Megadeth. His style fit the best with Dave in my opinion
I love both bands equally for very different reasons.
Dave Mustaine getting fired is the best thing that has ever happened to metal!
Agreed. Love 'em all! Definitely more complexity in Megadeth's music, but MetallicA is iconic and brilliant just the same as Megadeth in my opinion. I totally agree the rift between them created the best situation for metal music scene and us fans.
I wouldn't say that the most complex is the best. Though you are forgetting about Cliff Burton's era. I personally would consider the magnum opus of that era would either be Orion or The Call of Ktulu when it comes to their musical ability.
Mustaine wrote most of Call to Ktulu if not all of it.
@@curtwehrmeyer124 how? Because they use the same chords for a piece of their music? It's like saying that Tornado of Souls opening guitar part ripped off of the transition into Tony Iommi's guitar solo in Iron Man.
Using the same chords is not writing a song/insteumental. Was it the same way Dave did? Were they arpeggios or chords? The same rhythm, or was it just the use of the same notes but played in a different way?
If that's the case, then the person who discovered the musical scaled would be the ones who wrote all the music in the world.
@@nerogematria6392 He literally did write it dude
@@cdsmetalhead99 mustaine wrote the intro, but the rest of the guys wrote the remaining parts
Mustaine wrote so so much of the Burton era 'tallica...
I love both bands but megadeth is the reason I picked up a guitar Mustaine is such an inspiration and to make it in metal after being kicked out of the biggest band ever is no easy feat!
Metallica fans get a new bassists....... THIS METALLCIA IS NOT MY METALLICA!!!!!! Megadeth fans get a new guitarist.... Yes.
New guitarists and drummers!!!
Metallica fans get new drummer....FINALLY XD
@@amirphoenix2327 we wish lol
Metallica have the same guys since Dave other than on bass of which they have only had 2 bassists leave the band since Dave left and one of them unfortunately passed away at a young age meanwhile Dave has been through 22 members in a shorter time frame. Tell me who is hard to get along with and who isn't lol.
they’re used to it. everyone hates dave and leaves the band
Listening the best guitarists in Megadeth is so hard because they all gave something different but I'll try!!!
1.) Marty Freidman - Nothing needs to be said about his greatness
2.) Chris Broderick - He can play anything note for note and his classical chops are insane!
3.) Chris Polland - Interesting Jazz Fusion inspired solo and his phrasing (chefs kiss!)
4.) Kiko - Kiko is amazing maybe the best technically with Broderick and Jeff Young.
5.) Al Pitrelli - He is so underrated and never got a chance with Megadeth
6.) Jeff Young - Another virtuoso that never got a chance to show his chops.
7.) Glen Drover - Glen was a right guy at the right time guy and put out some great stuff with Mega-Dave.
What about the guy from Jag Panzer who was in Megadeth?
@@timothyjohnson5304 Chris Broderick is #2.
Megadeth is great, what Metallica seem to have more than just about any other metal bad is an anthem like quality that just gets everybody going, even those not really into metal. Megadeth really rewards repeated listens though, and that's one thing I search for in music.
Good analogy
Totally agree here.
That’s a very inarticulate and naive way to say, Metallica are better melody writers and have a lot more memorable hooks.
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 and are inferior to Mustaine and Co. on their instruments 🤣
@@ConspiracyRangr there’s a Japanese 12 year old somewhere that plays guitar better than everyone from Metallica and megadeath combined. Again, you are conflating difficulty/complexity with artistic merit. Bob Dylan has strummed three chord songs that are better than any megadeath song.
The war between the two fandoms will probably never stop, yet for me a thing is certain. Both bands are absolutely amazing, it just comes down to one's preference, no need to hate on one band or the other simply because it doesn't appeal to you as much. I thoroughly enjoy both Megadeth and Metallica, but when it comes to personal preference, for me it would be 57% Megadeth, 43% Metallica. Yup, still think both bands are legendary🤘🏻
I feel exactly like you except I prefer metallica by that same margin lol. I don't understand why people pick sides and only wanna like one or the other and diss on the other. I feel this happens more coming from megadeth fanboys based on what I've seen but I've seen it coming from both sides which is ridiculous.
I can get on board with these percentages. Well-done! Although both are metal Gods, when I want to get stupid, I throw on Megadeth.
i love seeing people argue here tho its kind of funny
Right away I'll say Megadeths drummers open up the possibilities by a wide margin, raising the level of the overall songs 👌🏼 that's just a start
Here we go another one of these technicality nerds that think more technical = better smh
I appreciate both. Particularly pre-Black album Metallica. Dave wanted Megadeth to be Bigger, Louder, and Faster. And 2 out of 3 Ain't bad.
My biggest problem with Metallica is, and always will be Bro-Dude James stage presence, and Lars. Nothing specific about Lars, just Lars. He bugs the everloving crap out of me.
And just before somebody jumps in and decides that I'm just picking on Lars, Dave is no angel. Far from it. Some of the stuff he's said in interviews and whatnot over the years, I flat out can't defend. But I can separate Dave the guy, from Dave the Songwriter/Singer/Guitarist.
Megadeth has had some fantastic lead guitar players, and I constantly see this debate about "Who's the best guitarist Megadeth has had" and it's a silly question. Dave is the best guitarist Megadeth has had. A) He was the Lead in Metallica, prior to the split, B) Watch the interviews, not just with Dave, but with Kiki, Marty, Chris (Poland/Broderick) does anybody here really think that he had no input into the lead parts, and/or can't play them himself?
And yes, I will gladly take the Man behind the kit banging on the skins in Megadeth over Lars. I don't care which one, they've all been better.
I don't hate Metallica, I don't think Dave is some kind of god, or that there was ever really a fight. Whatever it is that makes music appeal to one person, and not to another, Megadeth does a better job of making me *feel* something, overall. So they get the nod.
I love both, but Metallica has this raw, almost punk edge that has made them age a little better for me…first five albums at least….Though I think Megadeths later work has probably been stronger than Metallica’s later at work.
“Probably”
@@Brenzoink I agree with you on that , Metallica went from " keep up with us if you are Metal" all the way to " Hey drunk slob in the corner we wrote this for you to enjoy "
I still wonder what metallicas music would have sounded like had Dave remained in the band.
@@nocturnalninjas2036 or if cliff....
@@aimtenshi I bet they both would have eventually quit. Cliff wouldn't fit in with all that comercial shit. Just look at him. Him, and Dave was the balls.
Hard to pick a "best" guitarist. Chris, Marty, and Kiko are absolute monsters. I also think Chris Broderick doesn't get mentioned enough.
Cause he's a robotic player that simply regurgitates notes, not feeling.
So therefore he should only be mentioned to say that. Yeah he's considered a professional guitar player but unfortunately so are people like Jack white and MGK and they are absolutely garbage players in comparison. Definitely not how you play its who you know.
MEGADETH all the way for sure!🔥
Salutes from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Aguante, Megadeth!🤘
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Recorded Megadeth are probably better, they certainly create more complex music and have had more talented musicians in the band. Live there's no competition; Metallica destroy Megadeth. I find Megadeth a little boring to watch live and Dave's voice doesn't hold up well (seen both bands live many times over the last 30+ years). All that being said I still think MoP is the most important metal album ever and Metallica probably hold more places in my top 20 songs than Megadeth do. Marty is probably the most important guitarist Megadeth ever had and, honestly, if you look at his body of work he's done far more than any other guitarist Megadeth ever has, even teaching the legendary Jason Becker as a teenager. I believe Dave has said in interviews that Marty's playing encouraged him to become better, more exploratory and cleaner as a lead guitarist which I think shows over albums after RIP.
I agree. Megadeth made more albums while Metallica went on 3 year long world tours. Megadeth is cool to see live as its insane to see them flex those solos, but once you've seen them, you've seen them. Metallica is a monster live and sell out everywhere they go. Ive seen megadeth play 4k seat concert hall before, and play for half filled amphitheaters. But I loved megadeth putting out albums virtually every two years, seemed every time you turned around they were dropping something new. Mad respect to metallica, its great they sold out all those shows, but I prefer megadeth's vast library.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. No doubt Megadeth have always had the superior musicians when it comes to skills and mastery. Metallica have always emphasised more melody and emotion with their song writing, and live, yup, as a live unit they've always been superior at that. James has a superior voice too. With all that said however they are brother bands; one brother is the ginger, more complex one, the other the more commercially accessible, melodic brother.
Megadeth made their songs too hard to play live
It's rather unfair to compare Megadeth in terms of live performances since their lineup has changed countless times and Metallica's has remained the same for so long. And Megadeth was certainly no slouch back in their heyday
Dave's voice got alot better after the cancer treatment.
I saw them live in August and they were great.
I prefer Metallica too Megadeth. The first 4-5 albums are just solid, but Rust In Peace from Megadeth is fantastic i must say.
"to", not "too"
I used to feel that way as well now it just depends on the mood. Sometimes I really prefer Megadeth over Metallica. I think Metallica had better full albums for sure with their first 5 albums but after that they haven't since. Megadeth has had more killer singles in my opinion. Both are great bands can't go wrong with either.
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@@unrepentantoffender188 okey i really dont care about english grammers, but i did get the messages throught, that i prefair Metallica little more then Megadeth? Right? I am not even american or english, English is not my main language at all.
@@bartsullivan4866 both bands surley have ups and downs.
The way he sings and plays Tornado of Souls is insanity, and I hate to say it but most of Metallica their old hits Dave had a hand in, people seem to forget that
No he didnt 😂
Yes, he did
@@mustaine136 Dave had a hand in 6 songs out of the first two albums. Not exactly "most of their old hits"
In my opinion, more complex =/= better
I prefer metallica, but i do love some megadeth songs
Somedays im in the mood for more complex stuff, sometimes i just wanna listen to like, Enter sandman or something
Depends on the day
Same
The conflict between these two bands will never end for sure. everyone has different tastes. I'm someone who usually finds the musical part more important in metal music, so Megadeth is better for me. but for someone else, the vocal part may be more important, or they may like Metallica-style riffs more.
Vocals aren’t music? Lmfao. Also, there’s no comparison between megadeath and Metallica. If Dave wasn’t in Metallica no one would think to compare the two bands. Metallica sold like hundred million albums and sell out sport stadiums, megadeath doesn’t even sell out small theaters sometimes and they haven’t even cracked ten million albums sold.
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 fanboy.
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 🤣 kid. It's not about who sold most albums it's about the "style" And music. And the fuck you are talking about theatre's and stuff 😂
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 they've sold almost 40 million and they're clearly not as relatable as Metallica. Comparing album sales doesn't tell the whole tale although I agree that I like Metallica more I just think comparing records sold isn't a good measurement of what is better. By the same token neither is saying the one that is more technical is automatically "better" neither of these things are true. I do like Metallica more overall I just prefer their style I love the way James plays and sings and I love Kirk's melodic solos over just fast shredding which megadeth seem to do more. Both are great but megadeth have sold nearly 40 mil tho
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369By your logic justin beiber is better than metallica
More complex and intricate doesnt equal better. I think Mustaine is a beast but they dont hold a candle to Metallica.
Endgame as of recent albums wipes the floor with all Metallica albums, not to mention RIP
@@amirphoenix2327 21st century Megadeth is WAY better than 21st century Metallica. And I was quite the Metallica fanboy in the 90's.
@@HeathenDance I don't watch music as competition anymore, but seeing comments like "they don't hold candle to Metallica" need to be put in their place
@@amirphoenix2327 That sounds more like an issue of not understanding the subjectivity of art. If someone likes any artist more than the other it's pointless to try to "put them in their place" since when you state your opinion you can't be wrong.
@@Evil_Peter ok, but in which department they can't hold candle to them, drums, guitar, lyrics...
I understand if you like something more or less but that comment was referring to Metallica as "superior" band
I think the Hetfield vocals are simply more "palatable" to the masses, so that gives Metallica the slight edge in that regard. Though I fully agree with Megadeth superfans assertions. I love both of them. I think late in their careers Megadeth is well ahead of Metallica in the "songwriting" department. Metallica's feel lazy & uninspired. IMO
Their later stuff was ok for me... And then we got the songs from Sick Dying and the dead. That stuff is Peace Sells quality
I find megadeth’s later stuff to sound like no name thrash. Same with Metallica, but at least the riffs have some personality to them. My apocalypse, that was just your life, Broken beaten and scarred. All killer riffs. I can’t think of one riff that blew my socks off in a later album at all.😊
Metallica can write some complex songs like the one's in MOP and Justice, and some simpler one's like the Black Album and make them sound badass. Meanwhile, Megadeth is really hit or miss with their simpler songs (which are pretty forgettable for the most part). IMO versatility is superior to complexity, so Metallica takes it all the way.
I m a huge megadeth fan, but you got a point with your argument. I also think that melodies and slow parts are better done by Metallica. I think it s a matter of taste overall, Megadeth are probably heavier
You' don't have any idea hahahaha...
Megadeth is corny. Metallica just writes way better shit
I disagree with Metallica being more versatile. You look at the albums rust in peace to count down to critical writings, there's tons of versatility.
@@Brettwbeyer14 not on the level of Metallica. They set the standard early in their career. They've written some of the most ferocious thrash songs, possibly the greatest instrumentals and power ballads of all time, innovated lead bass parts, and then the stuff they released in the late 90s, which started to grow in people in the past few years. They check off pretty much every box.
I love Marty's guitar playing. It's very complex yet very melodic.
For me Marty Friedman as well as Dimebag Darell of Pantera are the best.
Dave wrote more complex guitar riffs than Kirk and James combined.
Doesn’t mean they necessarily sound better :)
i would like to see a comparison between Dave's best riffs and Cliff's best riffs.
@@ethanpederson yes it does
@@Oli_The_HouseCat Metallicas riffs and solos are 10x more iconic, complexity has nothing to do with the appeal to the ear
@@Totentanz2440 I think Iconic plays a role in what band is better if complexity does
Imagine Metallica with Dave instead of Kirk, Cliff still alive and on bass, James on vocals and rhythm guitar as usual, and Dave fucking Lombardo on drums. Dave Mustaine and James Hetfield being the chief writers in the band with Cliff and Lombardo having a hand in the writing on a few songs here and there.
As long as both bands are having fun
As guitarist I would choose Marty and kiko as the best Megadeth's guitarists!
Always thought Broderick was their most precise guitarist, even though he seems robotic. Could never stand Marty's arthritic looking pick hand style.
Holy Wars is one of the best metal songs ever written in my opinion. It sounds as good today as it did 30 years ago.
It sounds better and those lyrics 🫡
For anyone who actually understands music, this video is (further) proof that ...And Justice For All is Metallica's greatest album.
Agreed. Justice is their hardest and darkest album. Jame's lyrics are VERY powerful and still hold up and are very valid today. Like the song And Justice For All... Such a deep and true song 🤘🤘🤘🤘
No bass man, bass is very important in a song for me, I like ajfa, but I gotta go with kill em all
@@RealHuman-69 My 2nd choice. 🤘
@Knavery Even with bass boosted fan edits of Justice songs, musically speaking I thought the bass didn't add much to the songs most of the time. Jason almost always doubled the root notes of whatever James was playing and rarely ever deviated from that.
I would say the opposite is true. Anyone who understands music can hear how indulgent and pompous justice is, not to mention terrible production and no bass. A non-musician has more of a capacity to enjoy it lacking taste.
Yeah I’ve never been a mosh pit guy either. I would rather stand in awe and watch these masters work.
Just curious to those who think Rust in Peace is the holy grail....was that your first Megadeth album? My first was Peace Sells and I think that destroys RiP.
My introduction to Megadeth was Peace Sells but RIP is just untouchable to me. I absolutely love every second of it.
my first introduction to megadeth was actually their first album. i heard that piano start to play and thought i was being punked. then the real music started.
kimb is still and will forever be my favorite megadeth album because it is pure thrash, and mechanix blows the four horsemen out of the water
Peace Sells is good but Rust In Peace is a masterpiece from beginning to end.
Peace Sells is my favorite megadeth album
Peace Sells....all the way.
For me I prefer Metallica during the 80s, and Megadeth was better during the 90s (mostly). Since the year 2000 I've only liked one album from each. Death Magnetic and Endgame respectively.
As far as complexity. Normally I wouldn't say complexity automatically makes music better in most situations. Except in Thrash Metal, where I'm pretty sure that's kind of the point to be extremely complex. So at least in this genre it definitely makes the music better.
As far a Kirk Hammet. His solos all kind of sound the same to me. He seems like he's gotten lazy in his composition over the years.
In response to album sales, it just goes to show how the vast majority of consumers of music are a bunch of empty skulled mouth breathers who shy away from deeper music
I agree that Kirk Hammett became really lazy over the years, but in the 80s he was a beast. Now he repeat too much the same things and abuse of his wah pedal
@@lucasquessy23 Kirk Hammet just plays like a vastly inferior Joe Satriani... go figure, right?
Neither Metallica nor megadeath are intelligent bands. Megadeath is just pompous.
Sorry, but if you're looking for intricacy then the ...Justice crushes anything that Mustaine and his band of revolving door shred ringers can cobble together. Dyers Eve - nuff said. Go home.
And Marty was megadeth's best guitarist.
Don't lie.
Kiko, on the paper is the best guitarist, as he is currently, hands down, one of the top 20 guitarists in the world for technique, taste and musical knowledge
Technically they are. However, Dave’s vocals take them down a few notches so it kinda levels out in the end. James edges out Dave. Megadeth was actually my gateway to Metallica and just preferred Metallica song structure and vocals more. I also prefer Kirk’s early melodic soloing IE Master of Puppets. MoP beats out anything from Megadeth overall.
The only track on master of puppets that it's good that will be onion the rest is garbage
@@peterkarrys8607 Orion and title-track, the rest is just a snoozefest.
@@peterkarrys8607 your opinion is garbage
@@guitaristssuck8979 your whole life is snoozefest
Daves vocals are so much better than Janes's, although, Janes's vocals were better than they are now, before he got sober, they were never better than Dave's...
This feud has been going on since as long as I have heard of either back in the 80s. My opinion hasn't changed. Megadeth is better.
Edit oh and Marty. I love Polands solo work which is better than his Megadeth work but overall Marty takes it.
Been with Megadeth since they started, yeah Im that old 56. I like Metallica and no doubt they are good. It seems like Kirk has gotten lazy, I cant remember when he played a solo thats memorable at all and as a guitar player its a let down to see a once world class player result to Pentatonics and a Wah pedal. On the other hand I believe Megadeth is unrivaled. The more complex songs are what we the fans want and expect from Dave and he delivers in a big way. I wont touch who is the better guitar player for Megadeth, Ill leave it as the big three ( They are all above Hammet and I do hate to say that ) I will say Metallicas best sound in my opinion was the Garage Days album, that was bad ass and I was thinking why did you change that. Over all Megadeth is the better band in my opinion. I shared Daves anger back in the day and that attracted me, the guitar was blazing unlike anything I ever heard and Daves voice is one of a kind along with the wicked lyrics. Megadeth is unrivaled !! By the way Kiko had Marty contribute on a solo album, its called Open Source and the song is Imminent Threat. Enjoy you can hear some of Daves riffing and chugs in there as its in their souls now.
If the world could only have one metal song, it should be Holy Wars
the voice in this live performance is edited doesn't it? Currently Dave's voice is more deep and rough.
And well for me Kiko is the most talented guitarrist Megadave ever had, but Marty's legacy with the band is second to none
I think is only in the video or maybe in this one to avoid copyright. At that year, Megadeth was already playing their songs in D tuning, here it sounds in E and yes, the audio quality and high pitch make it obvious that the video is edited.
Chris Poland tho
@@KimoFest If i'm not wrong the live performances are not copyrighted, but I understand your point hahaha. But I'd have preferred the live from resurrection fest in 2018, it has a great quality sound
Yeah this is originally D Standard lol
Hey man, good content, im having issues in grabbing the course, it says the product is not currently for sale
Metallica really may be "better" overall, but the cold hard fact that Megadeth is the unthinkable, direct answer, to what happened to Dave WITH Metallica. Paints the coolest hero/villain story. Just unreal
This is usually the closing song… crazy difficult high energy to play after over an hour of playing high speed thrash!
Dave still has it! Solo is still legendary.
Megadeth ftw! I was listening to both Megadeth and Metallica in my teens and it’s Megadeth Dave and Marty who inspired me to pick up the guitar. Until now, it’s Megadeth for me. Learning their riffs and solos are much more fulfilling as they are harder and more complex.
I love them both but since load Metallica lost their edge in just my opinion and my music taste changed as I explored more bands. The key to Metallica's success is they evolved their sound to be more accessible and it paid off. Dave tried accessible with some degrees of success. Risk and super collider were failures to capture a different audience but they evolved the band's sound in my opinion. It's all good music to different ears and metal would be a different place without them both 🤘
Best Megadeth guitarist: I really like Kiko and I love following his behind the scenes videos. He really knows how to connect with the audience. I love his work on the Dystopia album and the constant soloing; that gets my heart pumping. However, there is a grittiness and command over the music that Marty has. I love the sounds/effects that Marty provides. The music sounds like it was born with him (of course he did write many of the solos).
I think Marty Friedman is probably the best guitarist in Megadeth history, because he can literally play just about anything.
MEGADETH never sued their fans for downloading their music,,so there's that.
I have learned lots more solos from Marty friedman. Then Chris Poland. Poland s stuff is very weird. Kiko plays in drop tuning. So, it never caught my eye 👁. Marty friedman can construct a perfect solo.
I'll say this, Dave's voice after getting over the cancer was far better when I saw him in 2021 than it is in the video
He sounds really good on the recent singles: We’ll Be Back & Nightstalkers.
Megadeth is like a well crafted wine. Metallica is like a wine made with vinegar and some unripe grapes.
i also like
Dave
vocals they are always
perfect match for the Song in his band
black friday is gnarly
one of my favorite songs by Megadeth
Conjuring
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Hook in mouth
Holy Wars is really
top notch
I've always been more into Metallica. James has a more powerful stage presence, better voice, and his lyrics are more relatable to me. The other thing I like about Metallica are the more groovy riffs. That being said, I don't think it necessarily makes them a better band overall.
Dave has a much better voice. It's not monotone and actually has some range and definitely is much more unique. Jason Newstead does better on vocals then James when they would let him do it.
@Michael Hassler James has shown his range throughout ballads and different ablums throughout the decades. James is far from monotone. To me, it sounds like Dave is trying to hard to sound like something he's not.
@@Leon1982db I haven't heard any kind of range, it pretty much stays the same tempo front to back on the songs.
@@michaelhassler7446 I don’t think I’ve heard anyone sound like James Hetfield either…. On Each album his voice sounds almost completely different after RTL
I was a Teenager in the early 90s when I first started getting into Thrash and all the older metal heads at the time always said either you are a Metallica fan or a Megadeth fan, you can’t be both. Since I 1st head Metallica first I chose to be a Metallica fan and it wasn’t until many many many years later i actually sat and listened to Megadeth and boy was I missing out on some great music! I’m 44 years old and I STILL blast Thrash all day long everywhere I go. I guess I’m just a sucker for old school thrash metal! \m/
Oh no doubt that Megadeths riffs and solos are more complex and harder to nail down - but I also don't care.
Metallica > Megadeth.
It is not about how complex the song is, it is all about being tasty and catchy.
Damn this song still gives me goosebumps even after all these years. Fucking amazing song. So many amazing parts, so well written, and so seemless... this is a timeless perfect song. 👍🤘
Marty, lifelong fan, but kiko is a beautiful anomaly that blows me away each time i hear him. Love it Shred!
Ive always had more of a connection to Metallica's music. It just makes me feel more, gets me going more. But from a guitar-players point of view it is more rewarding getting a Megadeth riff or solo dead on. Dave's solo have very little story to tell or feeling while Kirk's solo's you can sing along to and really fit the song. Marty on the other hand has the best style of soloing in my ears to this day. Other then that James just has the best metal voice and lyrics ever. Dave's voice takes some getting used to and wont click with you after one listen. I mean just look at the sales and you know who is the better band, their music is just reaching out and grabbing new fans every day while with Megadeth it takes a while. But i would say every fan that loves Metallica will almost certainly also love Megadeth. ( just wont buy the albums hehe).
More sales doesn't qualify as the better band, what criteria are you measuring "better" here? The Beatles have sold more than Metallica, but I wouldn't say it's due to the Beatles being a better band. Metallica sold more than Megadeth because they were more melodic, catchier, anthemic and accessible. They also developed a large following in the underground before breaking into the mainstream years earlier than Megadeth did. James' better vocals played a huge part in that as well. Megadeth have *some* melodic songs however overall they're more technical and aggressive, and Dave's vocals are snottier and thus not as accessible. In fact they're polarising. 😂 They're distinctive and suit Megadeth but they're simply not as strong as James'.
Kirk have like 5 good solos in the most important Metallica's albums, literally the most of it sounds the same, I mean it's the same with Mustaine but c'mon, Kirk doesn't do solos that goes with the songs he just solos what he want and sometimes he casually fit with the song, like ride the lightning or the shortest straw, but not usually
As long as the actual music is full of talent, passion, and innovation; there is no better band. It’s just preference at that point. A favorite band is kind of like picking a partner in life: there may be more attractive, intelligent, talented, or whatever other traditionally desirable adjective fish in the sea, but only that one person can hit that perfect spot for you.
Marty Friedman is definitely the best guitarist Megadeth ever had as far as ability and songwriting. Rust In Peace alone secures the deal.
All of this is based on opinion, not fact. It's very, very subjective. Thanks for sharing your opinion! Here's my opinion: Metallica>Megadeth and it's not even close.
You can either accept or reject Mustaine's voice...and the whole band and everything with it.
Ha i was wondering how people are not vringing this up. Megadeath havig complicated melodies is great and all but it doesnt help me to like it when theres some drunk man screeching and squeaking over it all. Take the mic from Dave and i would probably love it.
Yup same goes for kite rally everything on earth bud
I can play and sing Holy Wars in its totality- rhythm only, never bothered to nail down the solos note for note- and yes I can assure you, it is really tricky to sync the vocals and play the riffs, takes a good bit of practice.
What I did was play it over and over, to the album version without singing a word, so I could play the riffs in my sleep ya know? Only then, when the vocals AND riffs were seared in my head, from listening and playing it over and over did I try singing over the top. 🤘
In my opinion, Metallica's style is more appealing to average human beings earing departments...Megadeth are more for those who are more in the music business in general, for musicans who really are studying music. A musician would get bored with Metallica, especially with their very poor live performances...poor from a pure technical point of view...Metallica (especially Lars Urlich) are too sloppy (not the bass though)
Elitist much?
Not true at all. I’ve heard many musicians claim how much they respect Metallica’s music even if they aren’t fans of metal. I’ve yet to meet a musician that respects megadeath. I’m sure they are out there but I haven’t met one. Compared to Metallica megadeath is obscure.
And it’s my understanding Metallica’s live shows were tight and powerful musically early on.
I’ve not heard anyone describe as having poor technique once in my life. And as someone who is interested in being a musician, I have been bored with a Megadeath song much more often than I’ve been bored with a Metallica song. I love them entirely equally.
OH MY GOD MAN !!!! How do i find the girl @ 7:40 ?????? She is my SOULMATE !!!! The fact that she is THAT INTO that chorus-bridge, and KNOWS THE ACTUAL LYRICS, dude that tells me everything i need to know !!!!!
To be frank, Dave has more overall technical talent. Just a statement of fact. But Metallica has better music. Period. Megadeth has nothing in their catalog that makes me headbang like Battery or Harvester of Sorrow. No metal group has more relatable and more sing along songs than Metallica. I’ve never minded or cared that Dave was the technically better one. He got back on track and got his own band, and that’s great.
Edit: and while Dave dwarfs James’ guitar skills, James dwarfs Dave in vocal skills.
I think James is a better guitarist honestly, he completely wipes the floor with Dave on rhythm and his solos are a lot more memorable and soulful. Dave's solos sound the same for the most part. They're shreddy obviously, but there's really nothing else to them.
@@RizzlerTwo Now that I think about it, I don’t think anyone will ever match James’ stamina on guitar
And Kirk kinda does use more pentatonic scales than Dave
Megadeth has more than 10 albums and so more than 1000 songs, you should listen to "Countdown tl extinction", "Youthanasia" and "Risk". Metallica has only 5 albums while Megadeth more than 10.
@@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano Metallica has 10 albums
Metallica is the main driving force of metal which likes to make things sound the best they can and they did it well and Megadeth likes to play more complicated stuff and make it sound good but they have one thing in common they are a part of peak metal
things they have in common
:iconic sound
:iconic vocals
:iconic history
:relevance to each other
Mustaine Wrote 'Em All ... 😸😸😸
Correction: Megadeth has sold 50M+ records worldwide compared to Metallica's 125M.
Still a huge difference, but you have to keep in mind that in the 90s, the same people who were listening to Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys were also jumping on the Metallica bandwagon. That never happened with Megadeth. Their fans remained Rock and Metal purists.
That was one of reason Dave got kicked out of Metallica. Metallica wanted to be more Rhythm based, and Dave want to be more lead based.
Megadeth is more complex music, just look at the sheet music. In the end a good song is a good song no mater how many notes.
2 different types of metal.
I like both. It’s people like you that keep the rivalry going after the beef between the people who are ACTUALLY IN THOSE BANDS is long over.
Dave is a legend of metal
Holy Wars is hard because of the two guitarists playing complimentary chords. While Mustaine is playing a major 3rds Friedman is playing Perfect fifths simultaneously.. makes it sound really thick..
Metallica sells more because it's more easier to play whereas megadeth they kicked our ass . It's fucking hard to play
My favorite are Marty Friedman and Kiko Loureiro. Been a fan of Kiko since he was in Angra.
Metallica is like a bike with training wheels. But then we grow up and find Megadeth which is like a bad ass BMX.
Like that analogy. After listening to Megadeth, even the good Metallica albums sound slower and less interesting.
Ummm...no
Agreed. It’s a personal decision. I get why Metallica is more popular, but I like Megadeth more. Always liked both too, never got why some chuds make it an either or thing. Most people I know who like one also like the other. But Metallica is so accessible and mainstream, there’s tons of people who don’t like metal but love Metallica somehow.
I’m also a guitar player, and playing along with songs from both Megadeth and Metallica helped me level up. Definitely have to be at another level to pull off Megadeth songs.
More shred knowledge being dropped.
One can easily say that Metallica is a better band overall. The synthesis of the songs, the sound and if u may, the image, seem more efficient than that of Megadeth. Undoubtedly, Megadeth have many epic songs, and Marty is a diamond, although their songs don't communicate as well as Metallica's to the listeners.
Marty is hands down the best they ever had in Megadeth. Broderick was a close second. He doesn’t get the recognition that he deserves.
Broderick was and is the man. Was so surprised to hear he plays live for in flames also. 🤘
megadeth could have made metallica's songs, but metallica couldnt make megadeth's songs
You mention Kiko, Marty and Chris Poland… what do you think of Chris Broderick?
You can find bands playing more complex than Megadeth, are those bands better??? Megadeth is great band but there is one big difference : Hetfield 😎
Praise Papa Het!
Haha end of discussion!
It is, how you ever tried to sing a megadeth while playing it on guitar? Metallica is heavy metal for dancing, megadeth is heavy metal for smashing the planet into a grain of sand