Explains a lot about the direction their relationship took. Can I Live was my favorite track although it quietly was slept on but imagine if Nas was on that shit spitting that "Eye For An Eye" flow, it might've taken Reasonable Doubt to platinum status back then. Looking back in hindsight Nas dropped the ball by not showing up even though every producer on Illmatic said he was always late or too high to do his verses, but had he shown up that would've built the bridge & we would've definitely gotten that Commission album with Big, Jay & Nas...
True indeed. Nas was suppose to do a record with Biggie which I believe it was suppose to be"Gimme The Loot" but they both were too high in the studio and didn't get the chance to record. That means Nas could've been on Ready To Die album if things worked out differently.
@@24keys93 They both were high but Nas was too high. Obviously the record was done because it's Biggie song and he made sure to make it happen even if it meant not having Nas on it.
Jay-Z was supposed to be on Nas Life Is Good album as said in a 2012 interview with Vibe Vibe: "There are some very savvy features on this album such as Rick Ross, Anthony Hamilton, and the late Amy Winehouse. Were there any other artists that you wanted to collaborate with that didn’t make it on the album" Nas: "One of the only other rappers I thought about was AZ. And I wanted Eminem for a remix for “Daughters,” but he had already expressed that he’s spoken so much about his daughter throughout his career that he had done that subject too much. And me and Jay-Z talked about doing some things, but our schedules were so crazy." Vibe: "That would have been worthy of pushing back the album, huh?" Nas: [Laughs] "Well, I know we both are probably going to be upset that he didn’t make it onto the album because I really look forward to working with Jay."
@@Iknowyoumadnow Why disrespect another black man like that? Besides, don’t confuse confidence with arrogance. Nothing wrong with believing in yourself.
Bring It On makes much more sense for Nas to be on. Can I Live is perfect as it is and a different tempo. But Jaz and Sauce did their THING. THP. I wonder what it was, because AZ was in the Dead Presidents video at the end. So obviously they were cool enough
Jay-Z also wanted Nas to re-do the hook on Dead Presidents but Nas declined to redo the hook and appear in the music video. So Jay-Z sampled Nas line "I'm out for presidents to represent me, I'm out for dead fuckin' presidents to represent me" from Nas song The World is Yours (Tip Mix)
Seems like DX news just gives second hand information from Drink Champs and other sources all the time they are never exclusive with it ,,,i might have to unsubscribe ,,
Irv Gotti already said this back in 2007, this is nothing new. Irv Gotti said that the song was supposed to be a collaboration between Jay-Z, a member of the rap group Original Flavor & Nas. But after the Original Flavor member passed on the feature, Jay-Z finished the song. In 2007 Jay-Z said "What happened was, I was doing that song with someone else, and they heard the first verse and they was like, 'Man, you take that song. Finish it, 'cause it sounds like you got a lot more to say,'" Ja Rule also said he was supposed to feature on Can I Live but he got to the studio late and when he started writing his lyrics, Jay-Z told him it was fine because he already finished the song
@@megamafiarecords I think Nas would've fit perfectly on Reasonsble Doubt especially during that time when Nas was a hot commodity and everybody and their mama wanted a feature from him in the 90s. Bring it on would have been perfect for him and AZ on the track.
I heard this many times and it's a shame because Nas would of been fire on Reasonable Doubt. Can I Live is my favorite Jay-Z song but Nas does have a history of failing to appear on other artists' studio sessions. But it's a still great story to see. But Can I Live, Dead Presidents and Bring It On are still good without him. Personally I'm not in this Jay-Z vs Nas debacle because I'm sick of these Nas and Jay-Z fans slandering both rappers. I don't care about this "Takeover is trash, "Ether is Gay" "Gay-Z jealous of Nas" "Nas fell off" bs. They want to claim that everything negative they say about these 2 is what we need to believe instead of respecting other people's opinions. I respect both of these rappers and both are legends. The things I can agree on is that they gave us one of the greatest rivalries in hip-hop and released 2 classic diss tracks. Personally I still think Ether is still better and Nas is still the most superior artist. But I'm not going to go after Jay-Z like these haters keep doing. I don't really like him because he is somewhat overrated but I'm not going to discredit him or Nas' influence on rap. Takeover is just as good despite it mostly being a Mobb Deep diss. Not everything has to be negative. And that's the problem with this new generation they're always negative about old school rappers. Both did cross the line with their disses especially Jay-Z but they only did for the King Of New York title. Both are phenomenal MC's. And I still listen to both Ether and Takeover still to this day. I'm glad they squashed their beef.
@@romarisrogers8005 Jay wasn't rapping like Reasonable Doubt when Illmatic dropped. He was rapping like Jaz-O, Twista & Das EFX so it would never have worked...
Not gonna lie this itself shows the beef was Nas fault, cuz why even promise a artist to show up and disrespecting them constantly by doing it multiple times ur playing with peoples times and messing their schedules
Nas is THE best to ever do it untouchable. Definetly feel him for not feeling Jayz since he Always wanted to be nas and biting Nas and others style. Jay is not a real dude hes a 🐍 and Jay z never signed Nas stop with the bullshit Jay Said it himself they worked together. 🤦
I always heard it was "bring it on". He didn't show up, then he started dissing when Jay-Z's name started ringing. He had done the same with Big, he was supposed to be on "gimme the loot", never returned to the studio, then threw subs. His so called fans will tell you they dissed him first, cause they not really his fans, they don't know his music, they just haters of Jay-Z. Real fans of his music are fans of Jay-Z, cause both artists get their flows from the same Rakim, Kane and G-rap. Only difference is Jay added his own elements and improved it. Again, Nas so-called fans will tell you, Jay-Z took Nas flow. That's cause Nas said "Jay started to flow like us". He's tricky with that statement, cause by "us" he really meant New York - Jay started to flow like he was from New York. Imagine, but he knew how how the claim would be misinterpreted. To this day so-called Nas fans claim Jay-Z took Nas flow. That's why I realized Jay-Z was the king, Nas was clearly scavenging off his success, like trying to devide NY and break a slice for himself, he said "Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons", then later, "Jay tried to sneak attack, assassinate my character, degrade my hood".
You obviously hate Nas but Jay never rapped like he did on Reasonable Doubt before he heard Nas. Go listen to - The Originators, go listen to - Can I Get Open, go listen to - Show & Prove. Jay was Not rapping no street shit until he heard Illmatic & that's a Fact. I'm not saying Nas is a street dude by any means because to me Nas never talked about what he did he rapped about what he saw telling other dudes story but the average fan can't decipher fact from fiction but any way you slice it claiming Jay wasn't influenced by Nas is like saying they both weren't the offspring of G Rap & Rakim...
Nas wouldn't sound right on "Can I Live" anyway. Irv Gotti made the beat very slow from the Isaac Hayes sample. Irv a sucka, for trying to get Jay-Z & Nas on a song knowing their beef.
Nas was scared. Let’s keep it a buck, if Jay outrapped him on that joint, it would’ve been damage to Nas’ reputation at that time. It would be the equivalent to Kendrick today hopping on an ill semi notable artists debut album and getting demolished.
Errr what? Nas was already rapping with Wu Tang and Mobb Deep at the time, even dropping his best verses (Verbal Intercourse being the main one). Nas weren't no slouch with the features at the time.
@@rasulsamad5860 that's what I'm saying. His Eye for an Eye verse was nuts. We're supposed to believe that he couldn't rap with Jay at the time? 🤦🏾♂️ Nas just didn't want to, it's that simple.
2 GOATS 🐐
Bring it on is one of the best songs on reasonable doubt. That beat & mafioso style would've fitted nas & AZ along with jay-z perfectly.
I'm saying
That would've been a crazy dope track if Nas and AZ were to get on it. Mind you the track was already dope as it was.
My fav Hov song💯
Explains a lot about the direction their relationship took. Can I Live was my favorite track although it quietly was slept on but imagine if Nas was on that shit spitting that "Eye For An Eye" flow, it might've taken Reasonable Doubt to platinum status back then. Looking back in hindsight Nas dropped the ball by not showing up even though every producer on Illmatic said he was always late or too high to do his verses, but had he shown up that would've built the bridge & we would've definitely gotten that Commission album with Big, Jay & Nas...
True indeed. Nas was suppose to do a record with Biggie which I believe it was suppose to be"Gimme The Loot" but they both were too high in the studio and didn't get the chance to record. That means Nas could've been on Ready To Die album if things worked out differently.
@@24keys93 They both were high but Nas was too high. Obviously the record was done because it's Biggie song and he made sure to make it happen even if it meant not having Nas on it.
@@AmariMarvelous ok
Jay-Z was supposed to be on Nas Life Is Good album as said in a 2012 interview with Vibe
Vibe: "There are some very savvy features on this album such as Rick Ross, Anthony Hamilton, and the late Amy Winehouse. Were there any other artists that you wanted to collaborate with that didn’t make it on the album"
Nas: "One of the only other rappers I thought about was AZ. And I wanted Eminem for a remix for “Daughters,” but he had already expressed that he’s spoken so much about his daughter throughout his career that he had done that subject too much. And me and Jay-Z talked about doing some things, but our schedules were so crazy."
Vibe: "That would have been worthy of pushing back the album, huh?"
Nas: [Laughs] "Well, I know we both are probably going to be upset that he didn’t make it onto the album because I really look forward to working with Jay."
Ether is the greatest Diss song of all time
How much more iconic would this album have been if Nas came through?
Eh, honestly wouldn't have changed much...and if the beef still happens I could see nas using it against hov lol
@@thecunninlynguist Nas did use it against Jay-Z
Nas - Stillmatic Freestyle (H To The Omo) "You show off, I count dough off when you sample my voice"
Hov should released back Reasonable Doubt and bring Nas and AZ on remix
These guys are the best man
Would've been crazy to hear Nas on that joint, but it ended up being a dope classic anyways. I remember hearing Can I Live on a DJ Clue tape 1st.
FACTS! DJ CLUE CAN I LIVE
Getting information from another website or a interview is not news
damn bruh, and Bring It On and Can I Live are like my favorite songs in that album
Did we not already know this? Pretty sure this was one of the earliest motives for Jay Z to diss him
And that nigga deserved it!
Nas dissed Jay-Z first.
@@andilegxelesha-maqashu7348 YEAH , CAUSE THAT FOO THOUGHT HE WAS THE NEW BIGGIE AFTER HE DIED! Gayz was arrogant
@@Iknowyoumadnow
Why disrespect another black man like that?
Besides, don’t confuse confidence with arrogance. Nothing wrong with believing in yourself.
Bring It On makes much more sense for Nas to be on. Can I Live is perfect as it is and a different tempo. But Jaz and Sauce did their THING. THP. I wonder what it was, because AZ was in the Dead Presidents video at the end. So obviously they were cool enough
“Can I Live” My all time favourite song by Jay Z, would have been crazy if Nas was part of it🥲
That woulda changed the course of history
Jay-Z also wanted Nas to re-do the hook on Dead Presidents but Nas declined to redo the hook and appear in the music video. So Jay-Z sampled Nas line "I'm out for presidents to represent me, I'm out for dead fuckin' presidents to represent me" from Nas song The World is Yours (Tip Mix)
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
@@thecunninlynguist it was hotter than gay z song bozo
@@joshdaboss2365 lmao hostile much? I'm a bigger nas fan
Nas was notorious for not showing up for other rapper’s studio sessions, he did it to Big, O.C. and a few other dudes
Seems like DX news just gives second hand information from Drink Champs and other sources all the time they are never exclusive with it ,,,i might have to unsubscribe ,,
That’s when Jayz felt comfortable to attack Nas thought he was finished, bad move, but good for hip hop
But Nas is on Reasonable Doubt. Jay knows who he paid, dogg. 😂
Damn, talkin bout beatin a dead horse....
It's like turning water to wine, what came of him passing on the reasonable doubt record.
Irv Gotti already said this back in 2007, this is nothing new. Irv Gotti said that the song was supposed to be a collaboration between Jay-Z, a member of the rap group Original Flavor & Nas. But after the Original Flavor member passed on the feature, Jay-Z finished the song. In 2007 Jay-Z said "What happened was, I was doing that song with someone else, and they heard the first verse and they was like, 'Man, you take that song. Finish it, 'cause it sounds like you got a lot more to say,'" Ja Rule also said he was supposed to feature on Can I Live but he got to the studio late and when he started writing his lyrics, Jay-Z told him it was fine because he already finished the song
“WHO’s THE BEST MC? BIGGIE, JAY Z OR NAS..”
“With Hawaiian Sophie fame, kept my name in his music”
@@pradabears LMAO.
Wayne
“PAC, Nas and Big, ain’t no best”
Biggie and Jay. 1a and 1b. 🐐🐐
Extremely intelligent people/ geniuses are always late...
*NaS = G.O.A.T !!!*
It's a shame, he also failed to show for the new Pusha album which I think he'd be great on
Nas never rapped about having fake kilos and being a fake drug lord he wudnt fit on a pusha t album just like he wudnt fit on reasonable doubt
@@megamafiarecords huh? I love Nas but he had the Nas Esco persona on 'It Was Written', his most celebrated album outside of Illmatic.
@@megamafiarecords whatever floats your boat mate
Nas has always been like that. Every producer on Illmatic said Nas was either late or too high to do his verses...
@@megamafiarecords I think Nas would've fit perfectly on Reasonsble Doubt especially during that time when Nas was a hot commodity and everybody and their mama wanted a feature from him in the 90s. Bring it on would have been perfect for him and AZ on the track.
Jay-z revealed this years ago
i hope it's bring it on
awl
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!!!!!
I heard this many times and it's a shame because Nas would of been fire on Reasonable Doubt. Can I Live is my favorite Jay-Z song but Nas does have a history of failing to appear on other artists' studio sessions. But it's a still great story to see. But Can I Live, Dead Presidents and Bring It On are still good without him. Personally I'm not in this Jay-Z vs Nas debacle because I'm sick of these Nas and Jay-Z fans slandering both rappers. I don't care about this "Takeover is trash, "Ether is Gay" "Gay-Z jealous of Nas" "Nas fell off" bs. They want to claim that everything negative they say about these 2 is what we need to believe instead of respecting other people's opinions. I respect both of these rappers and both are legends. The things I can agree on is that they gave us one of the greatest rivalries in hip-hop and released 2 classic diss tracks. Personally I still think Ether is still better and Nas is still the most superior artist. But I'm not going to go after Jay-Z like these haters keep doing. I don't really like him because he is somewhat overrated but I'm not going to discredit him or Nas' influence on rap. Takeover is just as good despite it mostly being a Mobb Deep diss. Not everything has to be negative. And that's the problem with this new generation they're always negative about old school rappers. Both did cross the line with their disses especially Jay-Z but they only did for the King Of New York title. Both are phenomenal MC's. And I still listen to both Ether and Takeover still to this day. I'm glad they squashed their beef.
So this where the beef started lol
Haha naah
@@thecunninlynguist don't be a stan & admit it
That woulda been outrageous
It was Bring It On. Irv doesn't know anything lol
It was his baby mama they wasn’t together at the time Allen Iverson hit it to
Respect to Nas, but it’s never good to flake on anyone without saying anything. No wonder there was tension.
Glad they buried it.
Happy they didn’t show up.
Danm!
Jay Z a bigger name but Nas is better and more respected overall. A a collab wit the 2 always welcomed.
So would it been any different had jayz been featured on nas illmatic album first?
@@romarisrogers8005
It would made it trash
Nas not better than Hov I'm sorry. took me years to realize
@@j2323j facts, Sosa was the only collabo needed on "Illmatic ".
@@romarisrogers8005 Jay wasn't rapping like Reasonable Doubt when Illmatic dropped. He was rapping like Jaz-O, Twista & Das EFX so it would never have worked...
Not gonna lie this itself shows the beef was Nas fault, cuz why even promise a artist to show up and disrespecting them constantly by doing it multiple times ur playing with peoples times and messing their schedules
Super ugly didn't hit...that's why he had to apologize 😂😂😂 jay beeeen media trained
🐐 🐐
NaS turn down Jay-Z & Biggie
Thank God
Nas is THE best to ever do it untouchable. Definetly feel him for not feeling Jayz since he Always wanted to be nas and biting Nas and others style. Jay is not a real dude hes a 🐍 and Jay z never signed Nas stop with the bullshit Jay Said it himself they worked together. 🤦
Autism messed with your mind
Jay would've bodied that dude easy!!!!
Jay harder anyways that song is perfect without.
So glad it didn’t happen
I always heard it was "bring it on". He didn't show up, then he started dissing when Jay-Z's name started ringing. He had done the same with Big, he was supposed to be on "gimme the loot", never returned to the studio, then threw subs. His so called fans will tell you they dissed him first, cause they not really his fans, they don't know his music, they just haters of Jay-Z. Real fans of his music are fans of Jay-Z, cause both artists get their flows from the same Rakim, Kane and G-rap. Only difference is Jay added his own elements and improved it. Again, Nas so-called fans will tell you, Jay-Z took Nas flow. That's cause Nas said "Jay started to flow like us". He's tricky with that statement, cause by "us" he really meant New York - Jay started to flow like he was from New York. Imagine, but he knew how how the claim would be misinterpreted. To this day so-called Nas fans claim Jay-Z took Nas flow. That's why I realized Jay-Z was the king, Nas was clearly scavenging off his success, like trying to devide NY and break a slice for himself, he said "Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons", then later, "Jay tried to sneak attack, assassinate my character, degrade my hood".
You obviously hate Nas but Jay never rapped like he did on Reasonable Doubt before he heard Nas. Go listen to - The Originators, go listen to - Can I Get Open, go listen to - Show & Prove. Jay was Not rapping no street shit until he heard Illmatic & that's a Fact. I'm not saying Nas is a street dude by any means because to me Nas never talked about what he did he rapped about what he saw telling other dudes story but the average fan can't decipher fact from fiction but any way you slice it claiming Jay wasn't influenced by Nas is like saying they both weren't the offspring of G Rap & Rakim...
Nas wouldn't sound right on "Can I Live" anyway. Irv Gotti made the beat very slow from the Isaac Hayes sample. Irv a sucka, for trying to get Jay-Z & Nas on a song knowing their beef.
learn history
...wut? lol. your time line is screwed
@@thecunninlynguist these ppl leave comments trying to act like they was alive at this time.
That joint with Nas n Jay with Khaled should've never happened. I think they're better separate. That song imo sucked.
You gotta be crazy the instrumentals are feugo alone 🔥
Facts
I mean they were really good together on Black Republican
I ain’t never herd 1 song off reasonably doubt
Does not matter
Nas was scared. Let’s keep it a buck, if Jay outrapped him on that joint, it would’ve been damage to Nas’ reputation at that time. It would be the equivalent to Kendrick today hopping on an ill semi notable artists debut album and getting demolished.
Doubtful. Nas Ethered Jay with ease a decade latter.
Nas was scared to rhyme when he already had rhymed with AZ: a superior rhymer than Jay.
Errr what? Nas was already rapping with Wu Tang and Mobb Deep at the time, even dropping his best verses (Verbal Intercourse being the main one). Nas weren't no slouch with the features at the time.
@@dre8463 he killed that mobb Depp shit
@@rasulsamad5860 that's what I'm saying. His Eye for an Eye verse was nuts. We're supposed to believe that he couldn't rap with Jay at the time? 🤦🏾♂️ Nas just didn't want to, it's that simple.
Thank god he wasn’t on that song. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ I like Nas but naaaaaaa.