Meet London's Female Queens
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2024
- Drag has been a gay man's art for decades, but women can be queens, too. While women have always existed in the drag scene as the subject of imitation, in London, female-identified performers are taking center stage and performing in exaggerated tropes of femininity to upend conventional notions of gender.
Lady queens, however, are not yet fully accepted in the drag community; some gay men in the scene question whether those who are female-identified have the right to compete and perform next to their male counterparts. In "London’s Female Drag Queens" Broadly explores a day in the life of three women who are reclaiming drag for themselves, redefining its heritage, and proving that drag is a genderless art form.
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Even though I am a guy, I’d rather dress as a drag King, because I believe even though I am gay I should not be stereotyped as flamboyant. Being gay doesn’t mean you have to be overly feminine if you are a gay man or overly masculine if you are a gay woman.
I don’t see any issues of women being drag queens and men being drag kings.
Indeed . . . And i'd add that most labels and fashions IN EVERY SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT AND TO ANY KIND OF PERSONS imply a risk, which they EVER implied, even before the "modern" era: that in the end of the day, a person will become a X CHARACTER instead than expressing hers / his TRUE PERSONALITY. Be them drag queens/kings of any given gender/ orientation, be them trappers, punks, clubbers, metalheads, whatever. As long as the way you dress and look is a result of one's true personality that's ok, but if the personality becomes a result of the dresses and objects one chooses in order to look "cool", then it won't be a real personality but a mere role interpretation. And that contributes to create fake people and puppets.
@@assurdo8888 yesyesyes!!
@@Litterallyladybird Forgive my ignorance: what does it mean "bio queen"? Note that i'm from a non-English speaking country, and so I don't know many slang/confidential/ internet terms. Bio queen seems to me something like a biological woman who is a "queen". DON'T TAKE ME WRONG, THERE IS NOTHING OFFENSIVE IN WHAT I SAY, i just ever known that queen means prostitute from an old Iron Maidens song called Wrathchild. I'M JUST TRYNA UNDERSTAND. I link you the song, to avoid ambiguities. th-cam.com/video/xb6KqxHApn8/w-d-xo.html
Pardon me if i've involountarilly been somehow "offensive".
@@assurdo8888 its not offensive or ignoant at all!! Its a great question actually!! Bio queen is a term that people use for a drag queen that is a woman!! (im a demigirl (my gender identity) but i still use the term because it makes me happy!) Woman drag queens dont need to say that there bio queens but some people like the term for theirself!! ( and btw it doesnt have anything to do with what your talking about!!)
Yesss exactly 🎉
If queens and camp were already an exaggeration of femininity, why is it weird that women would want to participate in it? Seems kinda like the logical step.
In my mind, anybody can do drag. Cisgender women, cisgender men, transgender women, transgender men, ANYBODY CAN DO IT.
If only Rupaul and the DragRace fandom can understand that
Legendary | NitroRetribution Wait I thought bio queens appeared at drag con tho
SnickersDudeREE
Yeah but that’s the ironic part all drag is inclusive during dragcon cause thats where people spend money
sadly they aren’t represented on the show
It's art. Art knows no gender.
Transgender men can do it?do you really mean that?will I really be able to do drag?I like acting,cosplaying a woman,I like playing the character of a woman but not being one,Will I really be able to do it?
As a straight female i really wanna try drag, because to me it feels like the epitome of being a “female”. When i was younger i had rejected my femininity due to internalized misogyny, and i feel like drag could pull that back out of me??
Dressing up with this much make up is not feminity. It is a parody of womanhood. If you were born female you are feminine. Anything else is satire.
Go for it! Drag is a vast and amazing art form. Im only 15 but i feel the same way, through i dont want to to dress up as a drag queen, drawing drag queens really makes me feel more feminine! 💜
I'm a trans teen girl and what I like to do is change up my style very often. I guess you could call it drag, although I don't layer a pound of glue on my face lol. The way I do drag makeup is very different from the most well known style we're familiar with today. I usually do less heavy makeup and I also use old fashioned methods if I wanna look like I time travelled from the past. Although I do put a lot of bright colours and glue on little decorations sometimes. I've also been experimenting with different makeup items. Recently I just coated lashes in glitter and pearls. I'm also experimenting with outfits too! I used to just combine already made pieces but I've been trying to make my own. I'm making an alien-core inspired look soon. I'm gonna have a crop top which looks like giant pair of hands. So far it's going well, it just looks like plain hands. But I wanna add rhinestones, lace and fake nails to the giant hands crop top covered in a bunch of pretty things!
I think this is a very logical thing for women to do. For me, personally, I never felt I fit into the female stereotype, This objective feminity is something that anyone should be able to explore, freely. I get that in drag, especially in the older times, there was this award for being able to 'pass' as a woman. In other words, if a man could look like a woman. However, I find it even more intriguing for a woman to be able to 'pass', which is to look like the stereotypical woman or even exaggerate it (I find it hard myself, even though I am born a woman). For some women, it is easy to embody that stereotype, and they do so naturally, but for women like me, it is very difficult to do. In other words, gender stereotypes and expectations are ridiculous, and anyone should be able to perform and exaggerate whatever gender they chose to do. It shouldn't belong to anyone.
I think it’s interesting that they dare deny a woman and say that isn’t their space but expect us to accept them when they decide they are woman. You can’t be close minded and expect everyone else to be open minded.
I completely agree with you that the person who said that is incredibly close minded and gatekeeping for no reason. It always baffles me how some people in a minority (ie drag queens) will discriminate against even smaller parts of that minority.
However, I want to point out that it seemed from what she said, that a gay man said this to her. Not a trans woman. At least I think it wouldn't make sense for a woman to say "I hate you because you're a woman" to someone else. But who knows, there are certainly bigoted trans people out there. In any case, whether the person was trans or not, I don't see how this should affect you respecting trans people in general? Like the overwhelming majority of them will not care about a drag queens gender and be supportive.
On a side note, most people don't "decide" they are man/woman/enby. Like being gay or straight, you can only find out.
I think the issue is that some people feel like they are born women and they have an entire WORLD to explore that in. Why are they coming into a tiny space that people who weren't born women but identify as female have created for themselves.
Valid enough point.
But at the end of the day I think there is enough room and love for us all 🌈❤
I going become a female drag queen
yesss sis !!
yaasss
go for it baby
i hope you get succesful
yesss queen post it when you do!
Me too!!!
same
As an afab queen myself i feel insulted by some of the comments here that are so fucking ignorant, some of yall need to understand that drag is ART, u can even escape from the gender play and search new ways of expression. You have club kids, drag monsters, damn! u can even become a fucking lettuce if u wish.
@@Green-rp6br Afab is assigned female at birth, that's what i am, idk wtf you're talking about.
Hmmm " art"
@@sarcodonblue2876 What else would it be if it involves theatre, performance, painting, music, etc... DUH
@@sofka1365 Duh art is subjective Duh!!
@@sarcodonblue2876 It is and it goes hand to hand with what i said. Art can involve anything, politics, science, etc... and it has to be expressed somehow. (All the stuff i mentioned before are ways to express art). Idk what's your point Mr. Bigbrain.
“everybody performs their gender; especially in terms of being a woman. you perform every day as a woman”. thirty seconds in. whew.
friendly reminder that by saying trans women can do it and cis women cant you’re insinuating that trans women arent real women
Nope, I think the reason some ppl are more accepting of trans women being drag queens than cis women (specifically straight cis women) is because we’ve had many trans women as drag queens in the past and still do unlike str8 cis women who may not understand what drag is
@@scarletadams4158 if trans women know what drag is, what stops cis women from understanding what drag is?
It's not transphobia, it's gatekeeping done by the very community
@@pedroxyo it's actually both gatekeeping and transphobic...
That’s a reach if I’ve ever seen one. Where the hell did you get that from? 😂
59 dislikes from RuPaul's burner account...
When the channel is called vice Asia.. And yet this video isn't in Asia.
asian people sometimes live outside of asia
@@cookedfruit ya don't saaayyyy 🤔.
Lol, true
I'm pretty sure it's a reupload from a different Vice channel, I seen this video years ago but it says here its only a year old.
Bruh these people in the comments are toxiccc, just don’t watch it if you think it’s gross or bad? Personally I love drag no matter who does it because it’s a art form and art doesn’t needed to labeled as one thing
Hurd1199 Gold nice, a 6 year old
A lot of them are just triggered social justice warriors that find drag and transgenderism sExIst and DeHuMAnIzIng, but that’s fucking horseshit, there is nothing wrong or sexist about dressing like the opposite gender, and drag queen is not the same as blackface shows no matter what libtards say
People can criticize. Don't be such a baby .( No offense to babies)
Kind of crazy how women have always been part of drag but rupaul has redefined drag to be something it’s not to the point where such a toxic community has been created that passionately hate women doing drag for no apparent reason. Not even going to go into the fact that trans women pretty much created drag. Anyways
Don't believe everything you hear. I have never met a single person that thinks women can't do drag and I seriously doubt people even care. It's quite common for feminists to accuse gay men of misogyny simply because gay men date men.
@@BonequequeGonzalez A lot of cis gay men literally are misogynists though, and the idea that it's only crazed feminists saying that sounds like misogyny it itself but anyway.. One problem is that drag often takes place in 'queer' spaces which are really just designed for gay men, and which readily exclude women while assuming they're cis and straight.
@@AbiSaysThings exactly
Please read my comment! How dare you blame rupaul because many drag queens wish that women crashed their party instead of asking to be invited!! It is an extremely personal world ,,,besides Rupaul couldn’t possibly cause hatred and WOULD NOT , study the man’s life and stop being an idiotic judge of a man who literally preaches love and has been doing that since before he ever donned a woman’s outfit
Trans women did not invent drag,,,,,,,,study the art of theater - William Shakespeare and then think around and outside the box ,,,,,,,,Rupaul embraces everyone and especially all the genders not identifying as straight, Rupaul has been preaching love since before he put on a dress ,,,,he sang in a band as a straight boy and preached love PLEASE stop introducing hatred . Mabey women have an important role in the drag world but the way people like you are behaving it makes women look like hate mongers in a party that they were not invited to and mabey should have asked to be invited,,,,,like Rupaul says ,,,,,,it’s fun to play with ALL the colours in the box,,,,,,,women ,just be ladies when rubbing elbows with men in drag!!!!!!!! LADIES!
Honestly I love these women. LIKE SIS GO OFFFF🔥😭 EMPOWER YOURSELVES YAS
Honestly 😤👌🏾
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw joe
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw JoE MuMmA
@@tupoupulu6538 no, Joe Biden
Drag wouldn’t exist without women! Women are the pioneers of makeup, fashion and accessories! Women invented drag! They have every right to do it
You are 100% wrong you might wanna go look at majority of the designers owners of makeup brands they aren’t women pls be quiet
Clearly you are a misogynistic prick. Get of out the comments and get out of our space. We have every right to this and we own it
@@Lilavoss-td4wj.....
It is not cultural appropriation , it’s as though you said doing hockey is appropriating Canadian culture and it’s wrong .. ridiculous .. it’s a hobby people
My dream is to do drag but honestly I do feel bad for the fact that I’m a straight women and not LGBT....
girlStyle
U totally should!! It is an art form so don’t even worry about it 😄
It doesn’t matter ur gender or orientation if u want to express urself than u totally should! 💖💖
And don’t ever feel like ur stealing anything from anybody for expressing urself. ⭐️🌟
T1M t1M 2004 omg I love you.
girlStyle Aw🥺 U too queen!! 💖💖
It really doesnt matter what gender you identify as or whatever your sexuality is! As long as it makes you happy and your living your truth then go for it!! You should have no shame in what you do with your life 💛
Missing-D&P-Hours ❤️❤️❤️
Drag is an art expression, it shows up the extreme and put on the concepts on HYPER, be in feminine, masculine, androgynous, maybe a clown, maybe a fucking shoe
Is about LIGHT, COLOR, SHOW, MAGIC, EXTREME
I'm a nonbinary afab, i may present feminine all the time, but drag isnt a gender identity: it's an art identity, it's a perfomance and a show, i'm an artist
You girls look like you feel strong, BREATHTAKING
Imagine being a straight guy and feeling conflicted that you are attracted to a drag queen and not knowing what to do and then it turns out he's actually a girl pretending to be a guy pretending to be a girl
no its just a girl being a drag queen. lol
Just a girl performing hyperfeminity actually, not "a girl pretending to be a guy pretending to be a girl."
If anything, it's a woman pretending to be a caricature of a woman. And why tf shouldn't we?
I use to know one drag queen that was a man ,. And use to go work at straight club. And many people thought it was really a woman.
Thank you for the video. You are so inspiring! I’m also a Chinese and I really love the drag art. I would like to be a faux queen too.
as a cis woman, i have always wanted to be part of this diverse and artistic community, but never wanted to impose. it feels good to know that this is accepted 🥺
Happy InterNational Women's Day! ♀️
Where can we find them i wanted to do a photo project on them
they look like characters from jojo
Ohh my gawd!
Yup😂😂😂
We stan bio queens in this Haus..
I'm going to be the first female drag queen that will win Rupauls Drag Race! Clock this tea ❤
I'm counting on ya!
Gay guy here and want to be a drag king
Go for it king 👑
This is interesting.
Female drag queens 🥰🥰
Now I want to do drag
This girl really said she is HYPER AWARE. lmfao. wow.
choking
The irony of gay spaces making them feel like they don’t belong. The irony!!
Anybody somebody in NYC BE MY DRAG MOM.❤
Wait, aren't queens female?
Lolow Brow seems like a hoot!
Would like to be friends w her :))
I'm so into this, I'm going to start wearing gray when I go out ❤️
London is in Asia?
I genuinely thought drag queens were only for men and drag kings were for men
lol, when men are demanding to become women, drag queens are for every one,.
Honestly I would never actively gatekeep anyone from doing drag, I feel like if you're a woman doing drag you should be LGBTQ but that's just my opinion. Drag has always been for the LGBTQ community. I do think that ANYONE within that community should be able to do drag, tho.
Yeah, most people don't. I have a feeling she met a single person who didn't like it and now suddenly it's all gay people. Feminists typically hate gay men because they don't date women.
@@BonequequeGonzalez Damn I was right you ARE a misogynist! Congrats!
I dont agree drag is a art form anyone can do it
@@BonequequeGonzalez feminists dont care about gay men at all
there’s straight men that do drag though. straight women can do it too. while drag is deeply rooted in the lgbt community, that doesnt mean you should gatekeep. if a straight man can do it, a straight woman can too. its perfectly possible for allies to do drag. besides, the drag community without the pressure that rupaul puts on it is a place of love and acceptance of all kinds.
Being gay lgbt but male body
Got ❤ for my Queens !❤TX BASSDYKE
I love this!
I have a story.
Yes All the Queens and the Kings and the Clowns
Goth
Gotta love ya some goth babes 👽👌🏾
Oh Dear Another Division Within The Human Race
Mabey many drag queens are not comfortable because so , so many generations were persecuted,,,this art is kind of a quirky,funny ‘spit in your eye’ humour in a safe place where togetherness was and is a place where many people could pick their family and be helped by elders to learn to navigate ANS SURVIVE in society . I really think that it must take guts to this day (or night):) for a male drag queen to go out anywhere . I mean they have there own society where they make the rules and females entering just must make some drag queens uncomfortable,,,,,since Shakespeare’s day in Europe and before men played ALL the roles some dressed as a girl,,,,,a comfortable society inside a society,,,,,,mabey women should not crash the party but ask to be invited,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just sayin,,from an old drag hag
Women weren't asked if we were okay with men dressing up as stereotypical versions of us.
Yes at the expense of women!
Queens are females anyway tho not men
Women dressing up as women....ok
Not really. Drag queens are mostly exaggerating feminine qualities. No women you'll meet would dress or act as a drag queen.
Shut the hell up
Women are not defined by dresses and makeup. Cis women in drag are just females doing an exaggerated performance of femininity. They are fab at it
@@paulhackett796 what does cis stand for? Computer Information Systems?
@@sawilliams The prefix cis- is not an acronym or abbreviation of another word; it is derived from Latin meaning on this side of.
wow beautifull 😘
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Wth
What a fucking insult to women everywhere.
WTF!!!
Being a woman or feminine is not something women "preform".
I get what you mean like its natural in women, however I feel like there is a spectrum of percentages pertaining to amounts of masculinity and femininity within one person regardless of their sex. Like how people have different amounts of testosterone and estrogen, and also the naturally intersex people (born with both parts) what can they identify as?, their usually surgically not given the choice at birth to be natural. Its also common in multiple ancient cultures to recognize more than two genders, with their own nuanced descriptions. There are some people who can have their sex identified easily, but also NATURALLY sexually ambiguous people that you have no idea what they are, or you may read them wrong etc.... In a society where we have a strict rough standard for what a women and man looks like or act like , many of those who don't fit that standard have a hard time with their identity, and the list can go on when it comes to that topic. All this to say, doing "woman-like or feminine" things may not come naturally to some women, therefore it is performed, (their acting out of character). I think the popular things that women decorate their body with today (clothes style, etc.) is a result of marketing. There was a time where high heels were invented for men only, also a era where women mostly wore topless dresses. Hopefully you get what I mean.
To me it doesn't make sense your a female how can you be a drag queen maybe a drag king
you're ignorant
Hmmm I have mixed feelings, i personally believe if you’re a cis woman who’s part of the community u should be able to participate as u understand what drag is unlike if a str8 cis woman was to do it it would just be a joke to her, that’s my belief
K but how dyou know a straight woman would treat it as a joke? I’m sure there’s some who might see it that way but that’s a massive generalisation
It's a joke for many men who dress in drag. Drag itself is rooted in comedy. Why is a woman not allowed to dress up as a stereotypical version of herself? Fuck, women aren't allowed to do fucking anything are they?
@@jazzfox5330 Exactly. A lot of assumptions are being made about bio women -- and most of it is giving misogyny. Like we can't think for ourselves or are completely ignorant about anything outside of what people (typically misogynists) expect us to understand.
"(. . .)and (. . .) commanding people to look at me" . . . What if I don't wanna be FORCED to look at ANYBODY?
That's because homosexuality is illegal, has been condemned and we have had so few spaces to actually exist hon. Also, you're just putting chemicals on your face and wearing plastic wigs. This is not gender empowerment. It's shopping.
okay gatekeeper
There absolutely nothing wrong about cis people wanting to embrace queer culture. It's a good thing that we have come so far as to be mainstream. That cis people want to emulate us shows how far we've come. It's regressive to want to segment ourselves into separate communities. We always wanted acceptance, so why can't you be accepting?
it is gender empowerment when people like you exist in the world to tell women that only men are allowed to perform being a loud, proud, confident in your face women. gender is a construct, woman is a category from which certain characteristics are expected, and drag is an art that subverts that. men in drag are subverting ideas about masculinity but ALSO femininity. to be a woman in many cultures in the west means an expectation to be quiet and submissive and docile. to be a man in drag is to subvert the idea of what a man is, but it is also to subvert that conception of womanhood by going on stage while being loud, proud, and confident. a woman in drag is subverting that exact gendered ideal. and as long as men continue to tell women where they do and don't belong, women in drag will continue to be subversive and empowering.
Your the chemical
Most women doing drag are gay. Idk why every-time this is brought up it’s like no gay women exist. Not to mention women have always been and still are marginalized. Women are still abused, hated, killed for being women etc. The whole point of drag is to break away from that so why gatekeep and bring that same gross misogyny into a space that was created to break away from.
Now turn and face the wall
Nick Camp lol!!
Shut up old man