Euclidean sequencer for max for live
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ธ.ค. 2019
- Euclidean sequencers divide a number of beat subdivisions over a time interval and place MIDI notes as evenly as possible into that sequence. This is a 4 voice euclidean sequencer for ableton and max for live. Creates complex polymeters and melodic arpeggios. Amongst other things it allows to have a fixed note per voice or create your own melodic sequence for each one.
Download link :
gumroad.com/l/euclideanSequencer
More info on euclidean sequencers :
cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~godfried/pub...
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I've been using Eiclidean in Eurorack for a couple of years. It is one of the most inspirational sequencer types out there. You influence your sequences rather than hard program them. This is the best soft version I've ever seen.
By far the best sequencer I've ever used. I am having so much fun with it and the interface is top notch. Reaaally well done!!!
Maaann. This is what I was looking for ages. I was always interested such rhytmic variations. I was always planing to get into a digging what makes a special some rhythms and yes I was thinking there is something about African jams. As a little bit trained musician , I never seen those concepts about divisions and variations from any instructor.Thank you to make it real and give us as a tool.Thank you sharing knowledge and reminding historical concepts. We re in an age where most developers just pumping non-context generators/randomisers. Most of them just space junk. This thing is real. Thank you for your effort
This sequencer has quickly become my favorite and plan on using it everywhere. It's a great price as well.
just grabbed this, been looking for something this simple but comprehensive for a while. Thank you!
Just bought this sequencer, already can tell it's going to be a game changer...especially once I actually figure out the best way to make it work :):):) For now, it's just plain Bad Axe! Thanks a bunch, really appreciate you putting the effort into creating this beautiful tool!
Professionally thought out and executed !
What a beauty! Sequencing for the left brainers.
dude your GUI is top notch!
Thanks a lot! I am really glad you like the device !
where can i buy it
Just bought it and it's incredible. You can automate the parameters to add a while new layer of diversity. It's super good for making natural, complex and original drum loops with a drum rack. I do have some feedback though. You're massively undercharging so I hope it doesn't sound too picky. A triplet toggle for each voice would be great and a an option for the random direction option to occur with every note rather than every cycle.
Amazing job man.
This looks fantastic. Thanks for sharing and I can't wait to try it!
Thanks !
Love your sequencer!
This looks amazing, definitely buying!
This is so wholesome, amazing work dude
best plugin i have ever bought and i have a ton!!! fukin love this!
Holy crap, the beat from 5:30 onwards is insane! I always dreamt about making this kind of "broken-machinery" type of music ... need to get this sequencer asap
this made me finally try this ableton thing, gona take a while to learn lol.
Dove balls deep into able live 10 suit last year this time =D
I got myself a Ableton Push 2 and just started watching 1 hour of stuff a day on youtube and learning .... fuuuun times man. Get to it!
Get yourself a Push 2 (not a sponsor). Live and Push 2 will reward you handsomely for your learning efforts.
Best experience ever...
this is amazing. makes me want to go & build one myself :-) thank you for your service
I love it! Super inspiring!
It looks so cool !
finally a Xronomorph inside ableton!!! love it!!!
Great plugin, simple and easy to use at a bargain price!
instant buy! great! thank you
Damn this looks almost perfect
@root yeah, it could need a SWING setting - or did i overlooked something?
Just purchased and can't wait to mess with this!
Inspirational. Buying NOW :)
cant wait to play with this
Great device!! Thank you! instant buy ;)
Beautifull, looking forward seing how it's utilised accross MIDI :)
I like very much the Euclidean sequencer concept and I 've been looking for such a plug in. I have to say that this one exceeds by far my expectations. It only took five minutes to totally get the wonderfully complexed structure. Many congrats for the implementation and the excellent design. This is a very powerful creative tool. (Παιζει να είσαι έλληνας?)
Σε ευχαριστώ! Χαίρομαι πολύ που σου είναι χρήσιμος ο sequencer. Ελπίζω να κάνεις και ενδιαφέρον μουσικές.
@@alkman5157 Αυτό κάνω από το πρωί. Στέλνω external midi out στο Prophet Rev2 και όπως καταλαβαίνεις πάει το Σαββατοκύριακο και μάλλον πολλά επόμενα :-))) Πάντως -αν μου επιτρέπεις μια πρώτη παρατήρηση -, θα έβρισκα πολύ χρήσιμο να μπορείς να βλέπεις πάντα και τα τέσσερα grids με grayed out αυτά που είναι off (dark grey για τα steps lightgrey για τα events). Καλό ΣΚ!
@@designhappens8444 Ευχαριστώ για το feedback. το είχα προσπαθήσει αυτό που λες αλλά είναι προβληματικό το πως κάνουν overlap οι νότες. Επείδη τα sequences δεν έχουν τα ίδια steps και τα ίδια events καταλήγει να είναι πολύ μπέρδεμα οπτικά.
@@alkman5157 wtf is this language
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this is great !!!
amazing thank you!
Thanks a lot!
Damn this is impressive.
Great device! Can't wait to play with this today. Does it have a scale fold function?
Very cool instrument :)
this is dope!
This thing is amazing. tons of fun
Thank you!
I'm sad that this takes the knowledge out of making melodies but I really do love that this exists.
What utter rot. That's not its purpose at all.
lmao
wicked stuff!
Ok, so... I just saw this and two weeks ago I was thinking on how much work it must be to program this. So... I just bought it.
Thanks!
As a modular synth user this speaks to me on many levels 🤓
I am really glad!
Excellent plugin! Is it possible to change the pitch of the notes with midi input? If so the sequence could be played with a keyboard for live variation!
This looks super interesting! I might considering trying it
I tried the device for a couple of hours and it is really one of the best M4L euclidian sequencer I've played with so far 👍 Graphics are really dope.
Would it just be possible for you to add preset's midi mapping?
Thanks a lot! I'll have to look into midi mappings. Good idea though
Congratulations! This is great.
Let me ask you.
Can it be mod-ed in a way that it can receive input from midi keyboard so the notes change by midi chord input in real time? That is what I'm looking for. Thanks for this
Hi, Does this also have rhythmic algorithms like Grids..?
I'm using the sequencer on two different tracks. But when I apply automation on the re-sync option in one track, it affects the other one.
Not only that if I remove the automation re-sync stays on and ends up crashing AL.
If I have automation in more than one place and I press play, once the first automation gets active, this triggers the " enable-automation " of Ableton. Therefore the rest of my automation goes to gray and becomes inactive.
BTW > I just tried with one track only and the same issue.
Just bought it! Very very fun. I wanted to modify the patch so I could play the 4 notes from a MIDI controller rather than having to click notes but after unfreezing all of the max objects are all on top one another. Any way to fix this? Maybe opening it in an older version of Max?
Cool 😎
this looks amazing. but how do you define the voice of each sequence?
To the guy who made this: 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
It’s me. Thank you
How about MIDI transposition of the Sequencer?
Any more videos using this beast, please?
Crazy!
This is so cool
Thanks!
@@alkman5157 I'm bummed it doesn't work for 10.0.3 because I don't have latest version of Ableton which puts my max4live at a more recent version, 8.0.1. otherwise I'd get it
@@AnguzBeef Maybe it's time for an update! :) Not necessarily to use this sequencer but you are gonna have a much more stable experience with many m4l devices since the newer version has many bug fixes
@@alkman5157 ahh thats interesting
Awesome device! Just missing randomization of velocity and note length in the sequencer. Swing would be a nice addition as well!
Nvm, found random for velocity. Would be nice to adjust the note length in terms of percentage in the sequencer. Like the note length device in ableton!
I guess everyone in here is Tool's fan? :P great device!
I guess you’re saying this cause the polyrthms
Hi Alkman, I've been enjoying this for a few weeks now, but I'm suddenly having issues. It appears to be running fine, but isn't outputting any kind of signal to the instrument. It's like it's been muted. Any advice? I'm on 10.1.5 on Mac. Thanks for any help.
disable midi mode :) in midi mode it only plays the sequence while it has a note as input
this device is awesome. is it possible to do swing/ voice? it would be awesome
What’s about push integration. Can I use this with the Ableton push? This is an absolute must have for me at least
Hi, is that possible to play note from a midi clip (not into the sequencer)
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Did you code this your self? Its Awesome
Yeap it's home-brewed. Thanks a lot
Hey Alkman, really nice Device. But one question: What are the Operator presets you use in this demo? They sound nice as well...
Thanks Thom! These are custom home brew presets. The first one is just a basic fm synth and the second one is a fairly complicated fm synth which feeds two wavefolders.
Hi, man! Amazing device! I'd like to make some interactive visuals for my device. Could you please give me some direction, about the tools you've used? Thanks!
00:48 Dale a tu cuerpo alegría Macarena
Is possible to send midi channel data out per voice? Would be excellent to send each voices to different inputs!!!
I would love to implement this feature but unfortunately, Ableton does not support internally separate midi channels. This is more of a design flaw. You can read more about it here cycling74.com/forums/midi-channels-in-m4l
@@alkman5157 Thanks for the insight! Hopefully this is on their roadmap :)
Alkman Sorry if this is a repeat of the question - but is it possible to send each voice to a separate MIDI instrument track in Ableton? So, not outputting on different MIDI channels, but with an instrument on a different track choosing a specific voice from the sequencer as the MIDI input? Thanks!
Instead of using the device's sequencer, is it possible to generate the polyrhythms based on a midi clip instead? Thanks!
Yeah, u can create midi files in different tempos or with unequal numbers of bars and record their sequence in a new midi file. This way you can do as many layers to your sequencing as possible
really great plugin! would love to map some of the knobs to my Push device, but the sequencer doesnt seem to emit midi from an instrument rack and there is no configure button on the vst. Im new to M4L. Am I missing something here?
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Hello, is it possible to output each voice to a different MIDI channel? Because instead operator, I would like to use four different external synths.
just copy the device to more tracks keeping the same set of parameters???
awesome ! but ... no swing amount parameter ??
Hey man. This thing is amazing. For real. I am able to get notes coming out of the plugin in 'sequencer' mode, but in MIDI mode, no notes are coming out. If I could see some documentation, I could probably figure out what I am doing wrong, but I don't know where to find it. Any ideas?
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@@christianwiseman7224 Hi Cristian! If “midi” button is enabled the device will output notes only when it receives a note from a midi clip or an armed track. If it is disabled the device will output when ableton's play button is pressed. This feature is there in order to allow you to control the device with midi clips.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Great device but how can I play this across my keyboard?
Hi, please could you help me ? I bought this plug via the apple store with my i phone, and then I tried to download it with my new macbook air M1. But I don't know at all how to integrate the app with ableton (11). How to do ? do you have to go through max for live? I don't know the process. thanking you
Great plugin! Any chance of making it truly polyrhythmic?
yeah, this isn't polyrhythm. More like polymeter.
Similar to roli studio player arpeggiator?
can i map the key to select the midi note to a knob? i just want to use 16 cells on an ableton drum rack, could i define the min and max key select?
Can I buy Euclidean sequencer separately ? I have Ableton 10. Or do I need the whole Max For Live installed first?
I do some Max patching myself and how is this even possible????
Check out Tom Hall's video "Tom Hall MaxMSP Show & Tell - Further_In 05.22.2019". In it he explains a Euclidean sequencer that he built in max, it's very helpful for building your own! Regardless, the one in this video is obviously very impressive, but you could probably build upon his one and make it nearly as good.
Hi! I just bought this and am starting to have some fun with it, thank you for creating it! Quick question if I may - so far I'm noticing the "clockhand", if you will, doesn't rotate all the way around. Is there something I need to do to troubleshoot that so that it rotates all the way around? THanks! :-D
Please check the rotation selector right of the rotating sequencers. There are 4 options there clockwise, anti-clockwise, bounce, and random.
@@alkman5157 Got it, thank you! Much appreciated.
Anybody tried with external synth via midi?
can i use this with omnispehre presets?
I bought it. Nice! Wonder if it would work with a Minkowski function.
Martin Bielke I have never heard of Minkowski functions. With a google search I saw that they are used in computer vision but I don’t see how they can be used in a sequencer. Any ideas?
@@alkman5157 Hi. Maybe with the events happening on hyperbolas?
y sqr - x sqr = 1 ; y sqr - x sqr = -1 ; y sqr - x sqr = 0.
Then you could add 4 up, down and on the sides using the general formula: y sqr - x sqr > < or = 0.
I don't know. Just an Idea. Also matrix rotation might be interesting. Hier in page 112 a graphic: file:///Users/martinbielke/Downloads/255-Texto%20del%20art%C3%ADculo-1815-1-10-20180502.pdf
Does this works with push?
Can this be used in conjunction with cv tools and external eurorack?
I've never used cv tools but I cannot see why it wouldn't work. Euclidean sequencer outputs normal midi notes.
@alkman I am sorry I can see in 1:52 there is the sequencer and it looks like it is polyphonic, with more than one note per step, is it possible to use it like that or what am I seeing?
@ ulises All the sequences are monophonic but you can have multiple instances of the device with different notes on each one and synchronise them all with the "re-sync" button thus create polyphonic sequences. This is essentially what I am doing there. Hope that helps
What's the difference between the regular and the pro device?
Can you do a tutorial on how to build this in Max?
Hi I have Ableton 10 and legally bought a plugin, downloaded it, but it doesn`t trigger the notes. Parts are triggered (colorful) number of steps vary, it rotates, but it doesnt do anything. btw pitch field (the letter of a note) of part one is grey, others are black if turned on which is wierd aswell... If I put other max plugin sequencer (MDD snake) it works. Any idea? I NEED THIS BEAUTY TO WORK, you know?.)
Hi there! I am sorry to hear that. Which exact ableton version are you using?
HELP NEEDED! Does anyone know if it is possible to link each individual voice in Euclidean (red, green, blue, yellow) to a separate output/audio track in Ableton? I'm thinking it should be possible using a Drum Rack to assign each voice to be triggered by a separate note? Any help infinitely appreciated!
Unfortunately this is not possible with first version. The pro version comes bundled with a device that routes each individual voice to any midi track inside live.
Is it possible for me to use it to sequence external Gear? So one voice for my minilogue XD and lets say three voices for my Elektron Machinedrum (Kick, snare, Hihat)?
Yes it is definitely possible. The device outputs normal midi notes which you can route any way you want.
4:55 all that noise is coming from just one Operator?
yes one operator that feeds a couple of wave folders
@@alkman5157 Hi, if you have the time it'd be fantastic if you could go in to detail about what this really means. I'm extremely curious to know. I just bought this plug-in and I think if you can show off its abilities a lot of us would be really happy!
@@sonnizen1426 Hi there.! It is nothing really fancy. I just route the output of the operator to 2 instances of the built-in saturator(waveshaper mode) and tweaked a bit the settings.
@@alkman5157 So simple, yet powerful. Thanks a lot!
I was wondering if this can be used as a device in a drum rack.
Sure! it can be used in front of any midi instrument including midi drums racks.
Hi can I output the midi from this and record it in Ableton? Is there a manual? Thx
you can simply route the midi output of the device to a new track and record it in a midi clip
How to make the operator sound?
Hey Alkman!!..lo acabo de comprar y estoy deseando llegar a casa para probarlo,,visualmente me parece muy atractivo y lo que he oído por tu video encaja perfecto con mi forma de componer, random!!..muchas gracias,cuando lo pruebe te doy mi sincera opinion
I don't understand what the rotation knob is doing. It doesn't do anything for me.
Also, it doesn't work as in the video : at 00:38, I have the exact same parameters and the notes triggers always on the same time, there is no polyrythm.
Am I doing somethinhg wrong ?
Another example : I have 3 steps on the first (blue), and 4 steps on the second (green). It's supposed to be polyrythm but the notes always trigger on the same time.
EDIT : one thing that could be nice is to be able to play chords in sequencer ; )
You can imagine rotation as shifting all the events or triggers at one position to the right to a normal step sequencer. If you turn the pot you will see all the events(coloured dots) shifting positions clockwise. I don't fully understand what is the problem in the second case. Is it that the resync doesn't work for you? Which ableton version are you using?
@@alkman5157 OK so for some obscure reason it was just not working on the first launch...
I restarted Ableton and now everything is ok !
Thanks for the prompt reply
When I add a drum rack and stop a clip the device keeps sending midi signal, is there something I'm doing wrong?
If you want to control the device with midi notes you have to enable the "MIDI' button. If it is enabled the device will output notes only when you it receives a note from a midi clip or an armed track
@@alkman5157 Got it thanks!
really a shame that the number of notes in the sequencer loop is necessarily the same as the number of notes in the pattern. It would create some really interesting shifts. when is an update?
This device is not syncing properly with Ableton Live for me - after a couple of loops it is slightly off the beat (and not in a poly rhythmic way :). Am I doing something wrong?
Hi Marc. Which exact version of ableton are you using? Also does this get fixed when you press the resync button?
I can't get any sound from this device. Any ideas?
Make sure you deactivate the "MIDI" button. If enabled the device will output notes only when it receives a midi note from a clip or an armed track