I didn't recognize the brand of the breaker box and breakers unless it's a GE Home Line; it didn't say Fisher Price did it? You need to call a Georgia electrician, and if my memory serves me correctly, the CH breakers are compatible. Some electricians won't even work on those boxes. Nice weather again. 😎
15:06 - That's a clean 4th-Generation Camry! Unfortunately it appears the driver rear exterior door handle is broken, which is a common problem since the handles are plastic. That circuit breaker panel looks uncomfortably vintage. I think you made the right call: either the breaker itself is past its lifespan, or the panel itself is tired. Like Kenny Rogers said, you gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, and know when to run. You never count your money while you're sitting at the table, there'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done. Sorry, got a bit out of control there. LOL
That panel needs replaced, not suppose to run a three phase panel off a single phase service, it's not recommended, not quoting code, because someone will dispute it, but you took your own advise, better to stay in your lane than be liable for someone else mistake, good call.
Looks to me who ever put that new main panel in and the sub panel in didn't know what they were doing. I noticed the brker not being correct for that panel and the sub panel not being wired correctly either. Maybe someone was cutting corners on the breakers. With those wires getting that hot luckily that panel didn't blow up. I would stand to the side next time, IMO. Unit looks farely new. I've wired from panel to unit (s) before with brkr but when a sub panel comes into play and wires htg up good call to have a Sparky do the work. Good call Curtis.
Great Job!👍I never liked anything to do with 3 phase or anything converted from. When I worked mostly in electronics I always called in the maintenance guys. Great Video!
When you first went to the panel and pointed out the breaker in question, I originally thought it was a single pole and I was thinking you were going to find something goofy like 2 separate single poles feeding it, or one leg double tapped off a separate breaker, then when you pulled the cover I knew it was a 3-phase breaker before you said it. Those will work if the panel is wired for single phase so long as the breaker has an internal common trip. I just can't think of any reason to use that type of breaker in this instance except for maybe it was all the original installer had on hand at the time. I'm kind of wondering considering the age of that panel and the breaker if there are aluminum contacts and other components inside the breaker that are corroded and basically turning it into a giant resistor. BTW, those cobwebs add a nice touch to that panel lol.
Put a couple turbo capacitors on your van. Great in a pinch. Cost a little more and you have to learn how to jump them (not hard). Pretty much you can make any capacitor you want out of it and it has a 5 year parts and labor warranty through manufacturer.
good call, they clearly need a panel/service upgrade, that old thing is beyond it's useable service life and is just waiting to fail the first time it's touched.
Good call on getting an electrician in. When I started in this industry back in the 70’s we were also allowed to run electrical from the box. Now ESA only allows you to run from the disconnect. It appears that we are so going to need permits for A/C replacements soon according to a source. Damned government officials have their hands on everything, we are so over regulated in this industry I’m glad I’m close to the end of my career instead of just starting out.👍🇨🇦
So this manufactor put an obvious consumable part like a capacitor in the most inaccessible spot that they could find? You have to wonder sometimes what people were smoking when they came up with that idea.
I'm guessing that was an old "propane" supply line, in a likely electric only area. further suggested to be correct guessing, since it appears to have the remnants of an ancient 3 phase 4 wire "delta" (high leg) breaker panel board setup. likely long decommissioned to standard 3 wire single phase supply. back then that panel was a "flexible" setup and it would have the high leg fed via jumper wires feeding off an isolated lug bar to any 3 phase breakers with a tap off the side for the "high leg" to feed into. that was so it could use standard single or two pole breakers and always work out to standard 120/240 volts and not end up with 208V to neutral from the high leg and burning everything up when miss-wired. not all panels were like that and many accidents occurred back then gee why's the bulbs so bright/blowing out and motors/appliances running too fast then emitting smoke. 🤪
looks like the remnants of an old 3 phase 4 wire "delta" setup. pretty much obsolete by all utility suppliers and they've been forcing replacement with 3 phase 4 wire "wye" setups for ages or going to single phase in residential only areas. I don't believe any suppliers in the whole USA will install or repair old delta setups anymore(Canada too as far as I know)
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almost seems like it's not up to code. soon as you saw that heat I said to myself I turn around and tell him you better get an electrician in here and I'll come back when it's all up the par.
Oh, why in the world they put those capacitors back there where they did you about have to pull the blower to do anything to the capacitor. When I do one of those I don’t put that capacitor back there in that same hole they did always find another place to mount itto make it a little easier on the next guy that comes in behind me. Dumbest things I’ve ever seen.
Good call on referring that to an electrician
Smart move getting an electrician to deal with that panel. When you’re not sure, that’s not the time to start guessing.
He is an electrician lol
@@steveg8337 No he’s not.
@@brianwaldo2642 on paper
99.9% of hvac guys are well capable of doing electrical work. We deal with it day in and day out. Esp if your an installer.
Thanks. As you got into that service panel I was thinking "run away".
Purely for liability reasons, let a licensed electrician deal with it.
Great choice giving that to an electrician. I also think that was a great move.Nice job tracking the problem down. Be safe. Have a happy Thanksgiving.
I didn't recognize the brand of the breaker box and breakers unless it's a GE Home Line; it didn't say Fisher Price did it? You need to call a Georgia electrician, and if my memory serves me correctly, the CH breakers are compatible. Some electricians won't even work on those boxes. Nice weather again. 😎
It was an old GE. Homeline is Square D, and CH another altogether. I have yet to hear of an electrician who won't work on any of the 3 lol
Hopefully the electrician persuades the owner to replace the distribution box.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family and Riley ❤
It looked the disco was 3 phase with the middle fuse removed.
15:06 - That's a clean 4th-Generation Camry! Unfortunately it appears the driver rear exterior door handle is broken, which is a common problem since the handles are plastic.
That circuit breaker panel looks uncomfortably vintage. I think you made the right call: either the breaker itself is past its lifespan, or the panel itself is tired. Like Kenny Rogers said, you gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, and know when to run. You never count your money while you're sitting at the table, there'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done. Sorry, got a bit out of control there. LOL
Nice work Curtis. That old panel was a nightmare.
That panel is a dinosaur, and a 3 phase panel with 240 single.. that's messed up.. good call handing it over to the sparkys
That panel needs replaced, not suppose to run a three phase panel off a single phase service, it's not recommended, not quoting code, because someone will dispute it, but you took your own advise, better to stay in your lane than be liable for someone else mistake, good call.
Looks to me who ever put that new main panel in and the sub panel in didn't know what they were doing. I noticed the brker not being correct for that panel and the sub panel not being wired correctly either. Maybe someone was cutting corners on the breakers. With those wires getting that hot luckily that panel didn't blow up. I would stand to the side next time, IMO. Unit looks farely new. I've wired from panel to unit (s) before with brkr but when a sub panel comes into play and wires htg up good call to have a Sparky do the work. Good call Curtis.
Great Job!👍I never liked anything to do with 3 phase or anything converted from. When I worked mostly in electronics I always called in the maintenance guys. Great Video!
That's a wise move Curtis, protect yourself from any Liability, when your not sure 👍 Au
Looks like an Old 3 Phase Grounded B Service
Great decision to refer!
When you first went to the panel and pointed out the breaker in question, I originally thought it was a single pole and I was thinking you were going to find something goofy like 2 separate single poles feeding it, or one leg double tapped off a separate breaker, then when you pulled the cover I knew it was a 3-phase breaker before you said it. Those will work if the panel is wired for single phase so long as the breaker has an internal common trip. I just can't think of any reason to use that type of breaker in this instance except for maybe it was all the original installer had on hand at the time. I'm kind of wondering considering the age of that panel and the breaker if there are aluminum contacts and other components inside the breaker that are corroded and basically turning it into a giant resistor. BTW, those cobwebs add a nice touch to that panel lol.
64 degrees is COLD Indoors. 🤔
You are never supposed to mix brands in a panel. Even though they might fit. I’m also licensed in Georgia.
Code in alot of places/states.
Put a couple turbo capacitors on your van. Great in a pinch. Cost a little more and you have to learn how to jump them (not hard). Pretty much you can make any capacitor you want out of it and it has a 5 year parts and labor warranty through manufacturer.
Smart move let electrican fix it.
They even have a built-in turbo boost option which is pretty cool if you get the better one. Made in the USA!
good call, they clearly need a panel/service upgrade, that old thing is beyond it's useable service life and is just waiting to fail the first time it's touched.
Good call on getting an electrician in. When I started in this industry back in the 70’s we were also allowed to run electrical from the box. Now ESA only allows you to run from the disconnect. It appears that we are so going to need permits for A/C replacements soon according to a source. Damned government officials have their hands on everything, we are so over regulated in this industry I’m glad I’m close to the end of my career instead of just starting out.👍🇨🇦
There's also word that they want us hvac guys to have to get re licensed every year like plumbers. Changes are a coming boys..thank the liberals 😂
Nyc permits are required just about for everything
Good plan. If you aren’t sure defer to someone who is able to deal with the situation.
So this manufactor put an obvious consumable part like a capacitor in the most inaccessible spot that they could find? You have to wonder sometimes what people were smoking when they came up with that idea.
They're thinking "What's the absolute cheapest way to assemble this? Repairing it is someone else's problem."
Great decision
Interesting that customer has a heat pump package unit! I would for sure want a gas unit if i had a gas service like these people do.
I'm guessing that was an old "propane" supply line, in a likely electric only area.
further suggested to be correct guessing, since it appears to have the remnants of an ancient 3 phase 4 wire "delta" (high leg) breaker panel board setup. likely long decommissioned to standard 3 wire single phase supply. back then that panel was a "flexible" setup and it would have the high leg fed via jumper wires feeding off an isolated lug bar to any 3 phase breakers with a tap off the side for the "high leg" to feed into. that was so it could use standard single or two pole breakers and always work out to standard 120/240 volts and not end up with 208V to neutral from the high leg and burning everything up when miss-wired. not all panels were like that and many accidents occurred back then
gee why's the bulbs so bright/blowing out and motors/appliances running too fast then emitting smoke. 🤪
looks like the remnants of an old 3 phase 4 wire "delta" setup. pretty much obsolete by all utility suppliers and they've been forcing replacement with 3 phase 4 wire "wye" setups for ages or going to single phase in residential only areas. I don't believe any suppliers in the whole USA will install or repair old delta setups anymore(Canada too as far as I know)
Curtis that's not a three-phase breaker it's a garage heater😂
Hey Chris I’m getting sick too you should get an infirray p2 thermal camera infinitely better then that Klein around $300 doesn’t kill the battery on my phone, better procure quality and refresh rate and tons of settings to customize including recording ez pz
Well I'm surprised you don't carry a 70/5 that's actually kind of common one
almost seems like it's not up to code. soon as you saw that heat I said to myself I turn around and tell him you better get an electrician in here and I'll come back when it's all up the par.
I thought anytime you check ohms for anything you have to remove the wires from the load to get a accurate reading?
Was that a 20 amp breaker feeding that unit esp with heat strips i thought 50 amp was required
......would be interested in what electrician said.....my vote....panel needs to be replaced.
I'd like to know what their insurance company would say about it!!!
yeah, that would be an instant panel/service entrance replacement.
Why would anyone put yhe capisitor so far out of reach???
I know, that’s insane .
Surprise them with what😮
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I would have just put another gas unit there then switching things to electric heat. But that just me being a keep it simple type of person.
Who's the brainchild that sold them an electric package unit when they had natural gas there
😂😂😂
Not to mention the cheap guy that put a three-phase breaker in a two-phase panel
Oh, why in the world they put those capacitors back there where they did you about have to pull the blower to do anything to the capacitor. When I do one of those I don’t put that capacitor back there in that same hole they did always find another place to mount itto make it a little easier on the next guy that comes in behind me. Dumbest things I’ve ever seen.
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