I have one ready for tomorrow. Its a little bit of a different idea though but it will have tips for Red and Barrett. I don't really have anything for Cait cause i don't really enjoy playing him and haven't figured out the best thing for him yet.
Im in hard mode but With plasma discharge being mostly effective in overworld encounters with an abundance of enemies I have found myself preferring to use yuffie once available. She has theee weapons that all work well depending what you prefer- crits, atb gain or lightning dmg with some weapons providing bravery on a successful steal. Combined with the faith on stealing the damage scales really well in most areas. You can use hp absorb with mug and shes also a good candidate for atb assist and that materia that provides a synergy bar when allies activate a synergy ability seeing as she wont generate synergy with mug. The crystal cross can even buff wind damage if you want to utilise sonic boom more effectively whilst at lower levels. I keep magnify on cloud and interchange it with euther healing or attack magic depending on the area. A magnified fira with mp absorb wrecks shinra troops faster than plasma will and elemental triple slash is strong enough for most encounters without wasting an atb on a discharge. First strike i prefer on aerith and cait as they are too vulnerable at the beginning of battle. Tifa has other skills taking priority and cait can utilise it okay but he comes so late in the game i would rather use him as an extra support to complement the team rather than the main damage dealer
So on hard mode I think its different as I am starting to thing plasma discharge isn't that good. I agree with a lot of what you are say. I find my self using Barret and Yuffie a lot more. I don't know if all of these build work really well in hard mode. Kinda have to asses every situation and build accordingly.
@@ZeeTM Barret was an all star in my hard mode run. I found that the trade off weapon ability on the barrage blaster (high weapon level) mitigated mp costs well with how big the hits you take are. Damage output is pretty mediocre but it's enough for his final boss fight to ensure you're not just relying on yuffie for the elements. Prior to that fight though I don't think I removed battle cry the entire game (mostly because I didn't get trade off until late in my run) Agree plasma discharge wasn't as effective in hard mode but I didn't really find an alternative build for yuffie that I wanted to play and it still provides okay aoe damage for trash mobs. The crystal cross seemed to work best for me with the good attack boosts and the bravery proc on stealing. With the double HP absorb on mug and enemy skill she kept pretty healthy but this is a lot of materia slots used just for overworld encounters with stealable items. Against bosses she was mostly an atb farm slamming double art of wars to fill ally gauges with ATB assist.
That's basically what I did too! Just on the support build for Cloud. It really works on anyone that is Melee so I'm sure you can do it on Tifa, Red, and Cait!
Do you think a magic nuke Yuffie could be potent or nah? Trying to get used to not having aerith with rebirth hardmode cause of part 3 coming up and I need to find an alternative mage outside of cloud even potentially as well and i hear her clones spam spells with her too. Most of the rebirth crew is physical damage dealers with cloud and aerith reaching the highest magic stats of the party however yuffie has the clone mechanic and generates ATB like a monster so i wonder if she could nuke as good as cloud on runeblade or close to as good since red lost his mage utility in the remake series which made fighting the mythril golem suck since it resists physical damage and yuffie probably has the third highest magic stat of the crew. Best physicals are cait sith and Tifa with cloud third best also Yuffie kinda has a lot of magic damage based abilities as well and can do well with her mixed attack stats thanks to her clones and her and barret stagger enemies the fastest in the game outside of vengeance mode red.
So I am having trouble with finding a magic user and Yuffie and Barret have been the best so far. I think Yuffie works and I have had some success with it. There is also a materia that helps even out magic attack with Physical Attack and that helps me sometimes.
Thanks for the advice and also i think i am missing that materia which evens out magic and attack so i might need to replay some chapters again before contninuing my hardmode journey. Knowing there was a materia that helped with that would have made the mythril golem fight on hardmode so much easier as well. @@ZeeTM
For the Plasma Discharge + HP Absorb strat, I feel like the Darkside Materia could be a worthy inclusion to mess around with. It drains 5% of your max health in exchange for powering up skills, but then whatever you lose could just be healed. Either by Plasma Discharge or a basic Cure or Regen cast. I don't think Darkside applies to Plasma Discharge tho (and frankly Darkside boosting every Enemy Skill would be kinda busted)
I really like the second build with cloud support but would it work the same way if I swapped all of that over to tifa and cloud vice versa? I’m more of a cloud enjoyer with tifa in the mix I just haven’t decided who I enjoy for the third yet.
My god if they throw in Cid and Vincent in Part 3, I won't remember shit, there's already too many to deal with right now.
I dont think it will be to bad tbh
They will
Not if but *when
What do you mean if? They can't not have the remaining characters just not join the party.
Will you be doing a video for Cait, Barrett and Red as well?
I have one ready for tomorrow. Its a little bit of a different idea though but it will have tips for Red and Barrett. I don't really have anything for Cait cause i don't really enjoy playing him and haven't figured out the best thing for him yet.
What are the equipment u use? Like weapons, Neckless and belt?
Im in hard mode but With plasma discharge being mostly effective in overworld encounters with an abundance of enemies I have found myself preferring to use yuffie once available. She has theee weapons that all work well depending what you prefer- crits, atb gain or lightning dmg with some weapons providing bravery on a successful steal. Combined with the faith on stealing the damage scales really well in most areas. You can use hp absorb with mug and shes also a good candidate for atb assist and that materia that provides a synergy bar when allies activate a synergy ability seeing as she wont generate synergy with mug. The crystal cross can even buff wind damage if you want to utilise sonic boom more effectively whilst at lower levels.
I keep magnify on cloud and interchange it with euther healing or attack magic depending on the area. A magnified fira with mp absorb wrecks shinra troops faster than plasma will and elemental triple slash is strong enough for most encounters without wasting an atb on a discharge. First strike i prefer on aerith and cait as they are too vulnerable at the beginning of battle.
Tifa has other skills taking priority and cait can utilise it okay but he comes so late in the game i would rather use him as an extra support to complement the team rather than the main damage dealer
So on hard mode I think its different as I am starting to thing plasma discharge isn't that good. I agree with a lot of what you are say. I find my self using Barret and Yuffie a lot more. I don't know if all of these build work really well in hard mode. Kinda have to asses every situation and build accordingly.
@@ZeeTM Barret was an all star in my hard mode run. I found that the trade off weapon ability on the barrage blaster (high weapon level) mitigated mp costs well with how big the hits you take are. Damage output is pretty mediocre but it's enough for his final boss fight to ensure you're not just relying on yuffie for the elements. Prior to that fight though I don't think I removed battle cry the entire game (mostly because I didn't get trade off until late in my run)
Agree plasma discharge wasn't as effective in hard mode but I didn't really find an alternative build for yuffie that I wanted to play and it still provides okay aoe damage for trash mobs. The crystal cross seemed to work best for me with the good attack boosts and the bravery proc on stealing. With the double HP absorb on mug and enemy skill she kept pretty healthy but this is a lot of materia slots used just for overworld encounters with stealable items. Against bosses she was mostly an atb farm slamming double art of wars to fill ally gauges with ATB assist.
Didn’t you have a Yuffie build video as well? I was trying to look for it and can’t find it anymore
This is the only other video that I have. th-cam.com/video/ObonL4uHeiA/w-d-xo.html
I want a build with insane damage and two healers lol. An attack build. I just did 44k with infinity end
Very nice!
I use yuffies build but for cloud with enemy materia plasma discharge
That's basically what I did too! Just on the support build for Cloud. It really works on anyone that is Melee so I'm sure you can do it on Tifa, Red, and Cait!
And here i was thinking maxing out Aerith ATB with HP to MP swap with Lifesaver Barrett was the way to cause a constant Meteor Shower on the field
glad I could help then
Wait so in Hard Mode you don't have to have Cloud in your main party?? sickkk
synergy + comet is so OP lol
It depends on the sections you are in but yeah you dont have to use Cloud all the time
Sick ^_^ @@ZeeTM
Do you think a magic nuke Yuffie could be potent or nah? Trying to get used to not having aerith with rebirth hardmode cause of part 3 coming up and I need to find an alternative mage outside of cloud even potentially as well and i hear her clones spam spells with her too. Most of the rebirth crew is physical damage dealers with cloud and aerith reaching the highest magic stats of the party however yuffie has the clone mechanic and generates ATB like a monster so i wonder if she could nuke as good as cloud on runeblade or close to as good since red lost his mage utility in the remake series which made fighting the mythril golem suck since it resists physical damage and yuffie probably has the third highest magic stat of the crew. Best physicals are cait sith and Tifa with cloud third best also Yuffie kinda has a lot of magic damage based abilities as well and can do well with her mixed attack stats thanks to her clones and her and barret stagger enemies the fastest in the game outside of vengeance mode red.
So I am having trouble with finding a magic user and Yuffie and Barret have been the best so far. I think Yuffie works and I have had some success with it. There is also a materia that helps even out magic attack with Physical Attack and that helps me sometimes.
Thanks for the advice and also i think i am missing that materia which evens out magic and attack so i might need to replay some chapters again before contninuing my hardmode journey. Knowing there was a materia that helped with that would have made the mythril golem fight on hardmode so much easier as well. @@ZeeTM
For the Plasma Discharge + HP Absorb strat, I feel like the Darkside Materia could be a worthy inclusion to mess around with. It drains 5% of your max health in exchange for powering up skills, but then whatever you lose could just be healed. Either by Plasma Discharge or a basic Cure or Regen cast. I don't think Darkside applies to Plasma Discharge tho (and frankly Darkside boosting every Enemy Skill would be kinda busted)
It would certainly be fun thats for sure lol
I didn't know we could have more than one of each auto unique/weapon ability materia. How do we get more?
I think you can buy them from Cadley.
Nice one, ty
how did you get two synergy materia?
I think there is just 1. If I said there was 2 I apologize.
Will the yuffie build work with cloud?
Yes it should!
@@ZeeTM 😮💨😮💨
It's less busted but more fun with cloud imo. Instead of Mug you'll mostly be relying on Disorder tho
Awesome I have subscribed to your channel for my next video
Awesome thank you!
What skill can cloud use to proc the synergy materia comet on aerith?
Any weapon ATB ability. I just triple slash and focuses thrust a lot.
Great builds!
Thank you!
You can also combine cometeor with synergy with everyone and deal major damage:)))
Yes! I like doing that as well!
I really like the second build with cloud support but would it work the same way if I swapped all of that over to tifa and cloud vice versa? I’m more of a cloud enjoyer with tifa in the mix I just haven’t decided who I enjoy for the third yet.
It really should work on anyone yea! It actually works on anyone but better on characters that you know will be in melee range
@@ZeeTMthank you, need more in depth build vids like this, are you going to make more build vids for rebirth?
what does speed up materia do? Speed up attack animation?
ATB Charge Rate.
@@ZeeTM but it says it increases users speed
Haste makes atb fill up faster speed is for movement speed.
@@LongHoang88884 so i assume you can have faster attack animation when fully upgraded, is there more than one tho?
Boosts the user’s Speed stat, resulting in a faster passive charge of their ATB Gauge.
Is this good for hard mode?
It works okay on non boss but for Bosses its not that great tbh