Had it not been for this platform, I honestly would have never known this brilliant mind that is Mandisa. I appreciate the content you keep giving us Sbu and all the powerful guests you keep introducing to us. Siyabonga Sbuda ✊🏽
I know. I am actually getting more and more dissapointed by Mandisa. If you listen to her carefully, foregoing her passion, you would realize there are so many flaws in her assertions.
@@siyandachoncoI’m so glad others see this. I think a lot of what she says is hogwash and she speaks with so much authority you’d think it’s all factual. I wonder what Sbu truly thinks of her views. I’d like her to go to a podcast where she’ll be challenged (by an intelligent woman) and not given a chance to cry “womanist, misogyny, sexism” whenever someone doesn’t accept or agrees with her. I know Penuel has tried but she got emotional, called him a misogynist without challenging his arguments. I like how she says when a case has been taken to a court, the parties involved should “shut up” yet she’s been mouthing off about her case against Unisa on podcasts. 🙄😤
@@snayezulu7251 100%. She is intelligent, but she is also bitter and arrogant. There's something about her demeanor that shouts 'I'm here to tell you because you all know nothing'. With people like that, you can easily get bullied into their gullibility if you are not an objective listener. I suspect Sbu may have noticed some of this. Penuel seemed more like a conceding groupie on the UNISA issue.
I like the way Brother DJ looks up the official definitions of the areas you'll discuss. This is very educational and informative. I love the mind of this woman. I am an African American coming to live in South Africa.
I would urge you to independently verify all the information she shared or anyone for that matter lest you be hoodwinked by a pretty face and fancy English accent. I care not for her opinion but do not distort facts to suit your narrative.
Definitely not a fan of Mandisa, but what attracts me to her views is how she is able to express herself in a exquisite way that makes what she says potent, I'm definitely a fan. Give us more of this lady.
Thanks Sabelo. The context of Malema's claim is very important. What he meant was the events on that day were organic and not the brainchild of the ANC and the ANC then cornered the narrative to say it was 100% of their own
I think Mondisa missed something with the dollar issue. You can not use foreign currency in a different country to trade when there's a counties currency. When you arrive in a country, you declare the cash, and they convert it to the countries currency so you can use it. I think it's wrong to say that in that space, you can use foreign currency. That's why you have this exchange currency thingy majiki
I think she missed more. She is hard on Zuma with same alleged evidence and very gentle on Ramaphosa. I mean kidnap of Namibians and brought into this country is a claim that we cannot just dismiss, especially with the way we are told “extradition” was made. That is not denied. I am not pro-Zuma, nor a voter of the ANC kodwa she seem to be more lenient on Rama.
Thank you Sbuda my brother for providing this platform to our brothers and sisters. I would like to point out that I agree with most things presented by our sister with the exception of translating the circumstances of those who are poor. Most poor people isn't their fault they in that state but the system and therefore unfair from a person speaking from a position of wellness or achievement to then demonize the anger and frustration of those less fortunate or poor.
Actually, the law on recording has been amended, it's been a while now. 'As long as one party is aware of the recording, it's permissible. People have been stuck on all parties need to be prevy, but it's not the case anymore. Hope this helps
Zim and SA also own 80-85% of world's chrome reserves..Same with gold like Mandisa said if just as sadc we closed to outsiders the gold market would feel the heat. Diamonds same thing.. Coal,and many other resources
Mandisa is the former Chairperson of the EFF Gauteng. Good mind, I felt the EFF lost in letting her go. Yes, they probably have other strong, clear female politicians but she has a good mind and is politically conscious.
Mandisa Mashego by being a generalist misses a lot of simple points, the PP never had intention to use that in court hence playing to the media gallery. Unless Mandisa doesn't believe Dali Mpofu is a good lawyer either this is simple what the PP wants to achieve.
Big up to the great show, Bra Sbu. You will never understand why Adv Busisiwe did what she did until you are in her situation back against the wall. Imagine reporting corruption to people doing corruption and you are subjected to "a process" when you report corruption and guess what the same ppl doing corruption are facilitating the same process you are subjected to. People are going through the most and expected to "comfort" to "a process" driven by corrupt managers. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying what Adv Busisiwe did is right but... WHAT IF SHE HAD NO CHOICE?
I felt Mandisa was biassed towards PP and Ace in this interview, and it startled me that she admits she's not well knowledgeable on PhalaPhala, an entire Mandisa Mashego?? She supports CR.
I lost respect on Mandisa because when they ask her about Phala Phala she doesn't know anything she didn't follow the story to the core,but when is Ace,Eff and the former PP she knows everything by details,which clearly shows us that according to her she doesn't see anything wrong about the current president🤞
I agree with Mandisa 100% when she says politics should be banished from Gvnment, also about the '' hang pal '' i think African Leadership knew in advance that would they allow it most of them would be dead by now since heinous and atrocious crimes are committed by them in the country.
I understand the point of public representatives being charged after stealing within the coffers of the state , there should be a law that communicates to this .
Well the thing is clear! Those who start June 16 uprising did so on the mentality of ANC, look they followed that and atested to it by skiping the country and hoping to go and join their leaders abroad which in reality was ANC strategy, infact Tsietsi Mashinini said it loud and clear jn Botswana enrout to Tanzania/ Zambia where ANC was based in Lusaka mainly so ANC was involved all the way! And President Nandela was always briefed on all matters pertaining to Black struggle!
Ok, here it is, I agree that most people who were apolitical did not know the difference between the PAC, ANC and BCM/AZAPO, however, the riots the bus boycotts and the student uprising did not come out of the blue. Tsietsi Mashinini and others were students of BC and also PAC, they were taught by two giants who influenced their political thinking, ie Onkgopotse Abram Tiro, who left the country, and was assassinated in 1974(parcel bomb); and Ntate Zephania Mothopeng of the PAC, who was arrested and sentenced for his role in the June 16 1976 riots. Tiro was already a proponent of BC by the time he was a teacher in Morris Isaacson and was a former leader of a militant black student moveement known as SASO. Though he never taught Tsietsi, Tiro was known to be vocal against Bantu Education and Tsietsi used to visit the BC intellectual firebrand. Tiro took Tsietsi under his wing and mentored him, sharing political literature that helped to develop Mashinini’s political consciousness. That is why it was easy for Tsietsi when he went into exile could discourage students from joining both the ANC and the PAC, though the main reasons were that he was not satisfied with their low level of visibility in the country whilst they had guerrilla armies abroad. Another hero that was involved in the June 1976 was Zephania Mothopeng and other underground leaders of the PAC, actually the connection between the BC young leaders like Gaybon Mabasa, and the PAC was very strong then. Even when Sobukwe passed away, these young BC leaders worked with Mama Sobukwe in arranging the hero’s funeral, ofcourse the underground PAC was involved too: “ You Mothopeng, acted to sow seeds of anarchy and revolution. The riots you engineered and predicted eventually took place in Soweto on June 16 and at Kagiso the next day.” These are the words of Judge Curlewis in the Supreme Court of South Africa in a secret court hearing on 1 July 1979. He was sentencing to imprisonment for the Soweto Uprising(June 16) the following accused Pan Africanist Congress (PAC) leaders and members: Zephania Mothopeng 30 years, Moffat Zungu 7 years, Michael Matsobane 15 years, Daniel Matsobane 12 years, Marks Shinners 12 years, John Ganya 11 years, Benny Ntoele 10 years, Johnson Nyathi 10 years, Themba Hlatswayo 8 years, Goodwill Thlale 8 years, Julius Landingwe 8 years, Sithembele Khala 7 years, Goodwill Moni 7 years, Zolile Ndindwa 7 years, Jerome Kodisang 5 years and Hamilton Keke 5 years.”- Mayihlome News courts transcripts included in the publication), SASO was formed in July 1968 as a BC student movement , exclusively black. The BPC was launched in July 1972 in Pietermaritzburg. AZAPO as the offshoot of the BCP was formed on the 28 April 1978, in Roodepoort. Therefore, as much as I love the brains of Mandisa, we cannot just ignore the history and claim that without any political organisation June 16 just sprouted out of thin air. The bannings of both the PAC and the ANC and years later of SASO and that of BCP, did not leave our people with a vacuum of leadership. Those who belonged to those organisations recentlessly worked to re-establish their work. Yes some in the SRC like the Student leader after Trofomo Somo, if I am not mistaken, Dan Motshitshi Sechaba admitted that by the time he was an active leader of the SRC, he was not aware of the PAC and the ANC, however, those who organisesd had direct connection to the BC and the PAC. I joined AZAPO in 1980 and at that time I was not only aware of the PAC and the ANC, but also their political line of thoughts, and how they differ in their approach of the struggle. I had many debates with those who were in the ANC’s school of thought, we labelled them Charterists and they in turn labelled us amaZim Zim, because our our claim that SA was Azania. I mean, when one in the leadership of SASCO, AZASCO, AZANYU, AZASM and COSAS just an active member, one was aware of the three main political schools of thought. Even the unions were divided amongst thise political schools of thoughts eg NACTU and COSATU. Yes today June 16, March 21 are our heritage, we all own them, but to deny how they originated and who led them will be similar to denying the AMCU led the Marikana workers during that fateful day workers were assassinated by their own government 10 August 2012.
Ramaphosa is the worst president we ever had. Even worse tha PW Botha. He should really just step down. Even Paul Mashatile is not the one.. South africa is in trouble. Even our people, the ordinary people have failed themselves
Having said all that about the cold war Rwanda is being built now because it is the First African vountry to reject France and switch sides to the Anglos. Why is south Africa not repaying the imf or world bank loans?
ay u sis mandisa angalishisa izwe ngendlela athembisa ngayo uma ekhuluma, once a person wants to portray themselves as generalist and start saying a lot of things with no proof, i sense a lot of bias from here, she is compromised
Why did the anglo saxon not build one African economy during the Cold War? In fact the University of London used to destro African students who studied political science or Finance by giving the bad marks. The university of London in its charter says they want to train civil servants , to control African economies. The current governor of the South African central bank was trained at the school of Oriental and African studies. EVen ghe British know who runs that cookie.
The very same Mandisa who made an allegation against Lebogang Maile about Alexander house project corruption without evidence, but now she's busy questioning Adv. Mkhwebane's case, which I suppose it has overwhelming evidence.
Good evening grootman DJ Sbu... I'm Wanda Hischild from Mpumalanga in Kwaggafontein, a place where Adv. Busisiwe Mkhwebane grew up and actually matriculated at the same school i matriculated at as well...I had so much respect for Miss Mandisa Mashego I actually held her in high regard but after her utterances about Mam Mkhwebane, and her(Miss Mashego) being a woman too, i couldn't listen to anything she had to say or continue with this episode anymore... please refer her to the opinion piece on IOL by Mam Lindiwe Sisulu on the persecution faced by Adv Mkhwebane and why both the judiciary and the executive(ANC) are so desperate to render her incompetent and dismissed...shame on Mandisa Mashego she's lost all respect from me. I'm currently doing community radio and hope to get into the podcasting space soon. Thanks Legend ❤
Didnt Aggrizi recorded people like Gavin Watson whom he was doing dodgy deals with without their knowledge and that was acceptable in the Zondo commission?
Mandisa speaks "as a matter of fact"/ authoratively, but when you look beyond that and analyze what she says there are discrepancies in what she says. From the "looting" being organised (ngihlala KwaZulu, bavele bazitapela abantu) maybe on the N3 it was "possibly" organised (burning of trucks) wazi vezi kwi issue ya Ramaphosa. Is not make sure anymore
About recordings, Mandisa is very wrong. You can't go back to a criminal and ask him to publicize a recording. Very one-sided opinions about public protector. It is clear she needs a job from ANC
We've no Authority, we've no say as the citizens, i think that we've been betrayed, bcs when they were campaigning they said and even written on their placards that THE PEOPLE SHALL GOVERN, as a result the ruling party owes the people of SAFRICA an explanation to say what did they mean when they said the people shall Govern.
Mandisa is right in a lot of ways , but where south africa fits in the cold war, was the anglo saxons hired economists from the universirty of chicago to fight the communists push into south east asia and chile. Now when the Asians saw the growth in Singapore , they also followed suit. Now South Africa was supposed to fall next, but De clerk was chosen to end the Cold War, but Russia was economically on its kneees given the assault by Reagan and Thatcjer to reinvigorate the Anglo saxon economis by desocialising them and the arms race. China is run by the Huns but the Black chinese are excluded and discriminated against and China is asking African countries to give them mines if they default from bank loans. Now you lnow Africa dies not understand banking?
The economiic sclerosis South Africa is suffering from is caused by leakages from the government sector and a lack of reforms. China has been practosing national socialism from 1979, whether they will go back to marxism is yet to be seen. National socialism is a merger between big business and government like in fascism in germany or south america. Apartheid was a national socialism idea.thay is whybthe rupert family had to be created to match the British houses.
Hay am not make sure nw abt sis Mandisa...she is not sure if Adv Mkhwebane is legally trained but she is so sure that Ramaphosa is legally trained...hay sisi ur analysis nw is not make sure
Google it is very clear, in fact ANC would have guts to come out and have a word as a party bcs it was banned from being active, that's why even when Mashinini skipped the country he was not welcomed, in fact there was rumor that they killed him.
@@nathanielkgobe427 yes they went underground but MK was responsible for the training and helping individuals skipping the country. As to what happened in exile it's another topic a history both MK and ANC are not proud of
How painful to hear that voice note... And then we have a government of Izimpimpi who are paid to sell our minerals and we are left to starve **THIS GOV**
Mandisa Phala Phala is more obvious, we might not be able to prove because the president is protected, same as the emails. You are comparing oranges to apples.
The anc is internationalist, so they have their friends to please. The truth is the British gave us this party as a hegelian dialectic, to regain vcontrol from the Boers. Wr were played, now i am the most hated person in Britain , South Africa and Nigeria. Because i know how this game is played. What are the preparations post 2024, we do not need the Da in government, they are secterian more than the ANc . The Anc never studied political science
I find Mandisa to be well spoken and coherent unlike Thuli Madonsela and Makhosi Khoza who forces an accent. But that all, not intelligent or intellectual.
My question to Mandisa about Mkweba issue what proof can she provide for this claims if she did not have evidence of the recording and I do not think anyone whose asking for a bribe will agree to be recorded ? Wow and her comment on phala phala makes me question . Whose the buyer of animals did that person declare ? The Or thambo does not have the record of this dollars . 🤔🤔Why also sound like that when you talking about Mkweba's qualification . Do not respect her because of Zuma . And you can respect Ramaposa base on his education wow Sis Mandisa
@@lendlmaluleke2667 if she is was not taking sides she should blame both ANC presidents , present and past. What proof does she have about President Zuma, If she does have it give it to courts. Evidence about ramaposa was given to police station by Arthur but there investigation. Real I am not taking sides but this time Sisi MandisaI just saw different side of her she was buyers.
I love this lady but I feel on this interview she is becoming like any other politician. Something is cooking I'm telling you. She will lose all the respect we have for her.
Had it not been for this platform, I honestly would have never known this brilliant mind that is Mandisa. I appreciate the content you keep giving us Sbu and all the powerful guests you keep introducing to us. Siyabonga Sbuda ✊🏽
She will say anything to try and discredit the EFF, unfortunately she always misses the point.
Lol it's funny to see Mandisa trying by all means to protect CR😂😂😂😂
Now we know her !
Exactly
I know. I am actually getting more and more dissapointed by Mandisa. If you listen to her carefully, foregoing her passion, you would realize there are so many flaws in her assertions.
@@siyandachonco they normally say time reveals everything. The more one speak, the louder their intentions are.
@@siyandachoncoI’m so glad others see this. I think a lot of what she says is hogwash and she speaks with so much authority you’d think it’s all factual. I wonder what Sbu truly thinks of her views.
I’d like her to go to a podcast where she’ll be challenged (by an intelligent woman) and not given a chance to cry “womanist, misogyny, sexism” whenever someone doesn’t accept or agrees with her. I know Penuel has tried but she got emotional, called him a misogynist without challenging his arguments.
I like how she says when a case has been taken to a court, the parties involved should “shut up” yet she’s been mouthing off about her case against Unisa on podcasts. 🙄😤
@@snayezulu7251 100%. She is intelligent, but she is also bitter and arrogant. There's something about her demeanor that shouts 'I'm here to tell you because you all know nothing'. With people like that, you can easily get bullied into their gullibility if you are not an objective listener. I suspect Sbu may have noticed some of this. Penuel seemed more like a conceding groupie on the UNISA issue.
I like the way Brother DJ looks up the official definitions of the areas you'll discuss. This is very educational and informative. I love the mind of this woman. I am an African American coming to live in South Africa.
Welcome back home🌱💚💚💚
Fire fire fire.. she was on fire today. Sometimes it's hard for us man to listen but today she is on fire. Educational. Informative
I would urge you to independently verify all the information she shared or anyone for that matter lest you be hoodwinked by a pretty face and fancy English accent. I care not for her opinion but do not distort facts to suit your narrative.
Always an insightful conversation. I love umam' Mandisa
DJ Sbu is probably disappointed that the Mandisa Mashego that he knew is not the same anymore. On the previous episodes she was not a CR apologist
I noticed that too, you cannot defend the Phala Phala Saga for no reason.
@ntk1177 I guess she's hungry and she wants some soup
@@paul7505😅
❤❤Please keep educating us Sis Mandisa and Our Number1 KnoxMan ❤
Using Eff as a bait, as always 😅
I wish I could meet Mandisa...so much gems. Danko sbuda
Why does she conclude that Ace is corrupt without him being found guilty by a court of law, but she absolutes CR?
Mandisa did well by leaving EFF, she must nowjoin Cyril's faction openly
mandisa u look so young
it shows even when u become granny years later .... u will still be lookn so beautiful
I like sis Mandisa whenever i see a podcast with her i watch and like brilliant sister there Dj SBU keep up the good work brother 😎🤗✊✊✊
i wish majority of women were like her
Ramaphosa mouth piece 😢😂
I enjoyed this episode there was no interuptions Dj Sbu he listens to his guest
Wow, when she talks about Phalaphala she's not sure. But she's sure that Ace, JZ and Mkhwebana are corrupt.
I picked that one too. 🤔
I was surprised that she red the story abt Mkhwebane and it's a resent story but the old story or Phalaphala she jst saw the headlines.😮😮amazing,
She is now on payroll
South Africa needs to honor bro Steve Bantu Biko.... The guy is political prophet and architect he shaped our brothers&sisters
Definitely not a fan of Mandisa, but what attracts me to her views is how she is able to express herself in a exquisite way that makes what she says potent, I'm definitely a fan. Give us more of this lady.
She is prone to exaggeration though and bearing grudges especially the way she dismisses anything EFF or Malema
Love her or hate her... she is well informed... very topical issues i didn't know about. Thanks Sbu.
Malema said the ANC issued a statement condemning the pupils on 16 June 1976. DJ Sbu's question is nonconceptualized, hence the response is misguided.
Very much misguided and narrowly constructed.
They are trying very hard to discredit Malema
Noticed that too.
@@khanyamazkhali6949 in every topic which touches EFF policy,she tries so hard to deviate from it and i know why
Thanks Sabelo. The context of Malema's claim is very important. What he meant was the events on that day were organic and not the brainchild of the ANC and the ANC then cornered the narrative to say it was 100% of their own
I think Mondisa missed something with the dollar issue. You can not use foreign currency in a different country to trade when there's a counties currency.
When you arrive in a country, you declare the cash, and they convert it to the countries currency so you can use it.
I think it's wrong to say that in that space, you can use foreign currency. That's why you have this exchange currency thingy majiki
I think she missed more. She is hard on Zuma with same alleged evidence and very gentle on Ramaphosa. I mean kidnap of Namibians and brought into this country is a claim that we cannot just dismiss, especially with the way we are told “extradition” was made. That is not denied.
I am not pro-Zuma, nor a voter of the ANC kodwa she seem to be more lenient on Rama.
She sound like she is on CR side this time, maybe she is on payroll
Thank you Sbuda my brother for providing this platform to our brothers and sisters. I would like to point out that I agree with most things presented by our sister with the exception of translating the circumstances of those who are poor. Most poor people isn't their fault they in that state but the system and therefore unfair from a person speaking from a position of wellness or achievement to then demonize the anger and frustration of those less fortunate or poor.
Enjoyed the conversation very informative
Actually, the law on recording has been amended, it's been a while now. 'As long as one party is aware of the recording, it's permissible. People have been stuck on all parties need to be prevy, but it's not the case anymore. Hope this helps
Recording what
It's unfortunate that we can't trust Main stream media. This platform is the best thing that has ever happened
Thank you Elder Sbuda we would like to know what does June 16 mean to some Afrikaners in SA pls In future bring them on the platform
Enjoying these deep dives into history and have a more modernized view with some constructive perspective.
The bee is there for the MoFaya. Lol😂 they just love energy drinks.
Zim and SA also own 80-85% of world's chrome reserves..Same with gold like Mandisa said if just as sadc we closed to outsiders the gold market would feel the heat. Diamonds same thing.. Coal,and many other resources
Mandisa is the former Chairperson of the EFF Gauteng. Good mind, I felt the EFF lost in letting her go. Yes, they probably have other strong, clear female politicians but she has a good mind and is politically conscious.
The EFF is part of the new world that's being established. That's what Mandisa is against hence she left the EFF
No its good she left
@@leshopegerald Why?
nope
@@lendlmaluleke2667she has no original ideas and is just a critic. Her arguments and debates are built on deflection and dodging and not convincing
They were not just learners, but also activist. Who got inspired and taught by comrades from certain political and ideological formations.
Mandisa Mashego by being a generalist misses a lot of simple points, the PP never had intention to use that in court hence playing to the media gallery. Unless Mandisa doesn't believe Dali Mpofu is a good lawyer either this is simple what the PP wants to achieve.
She still hurt that she is not an EFF member,that is why she is always on the opposite side to what the EFF believes in😢you will heal one baby girl.
Big up guys❤
Big up to the great show, Bra Sbu. You will never understand why Adv Busisiwe did what she did until you are in her situation back against the wall. Imagine reporting corruption to people doing corruption and you are subjected to "a process" when you report corruption and guess what the same ppl doing corruption are facilitating the same process you are subjected to. People are going through the most and expected to "comfort" to "a process" driven by corrupt managers. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying what Adv Busisiwe did is right but... WHAT IF SHE HAD NO CHOICE?
I felt Mandisa was biassed towards PP and Ace in this interview, and it startled me that she admits she's not well knowledgeable on PhalaPhala, an entire Mandisa Mashego?? She supports CR.
SHE IS PARTISAN AND SHE SOUNDS BITTER WHEN MAKING SOME POINTS
I lost respect on Mandisa because when they ask her about Phala Phala she doesn't know anything she didn't follow the story to the core,but when is Ace,Eff and the former PP she knows everything by details,which clearly shows us that according to her she doesn't see anything wrong about the current president🤞
U cant make ur conversation beside putting eff or Julius malema
I agree with Mandisa 100% when she says politics should be banished from Gvnment, also about the '' hang pal '' i think African Leadership knew in advance that would they allow it most of them would be dead by now since heinous and atrocious crimes are committed by them in the country.
I understand the point of public representatives being charged after stealing within the coffers of the state , there should be a law that communicates to this .
Sis Mandisa for President....... Viva the smartest and most realest Oulady...... #UNCLE_MELLOW
Never!
Well the thing is clear! Those who start June 16 uprising did so on the mentality of ANC, look they followed that and atested to it by skiping the country and hoping to go and join their leaders abroad which in reality was ANC strategy, infact Tsietsi Mashinini said it loud and clear jn Botswana enrout to Tanzania/ Zambia where ANC was based in Lusaka mainly so ANC was involved all the way! And President Nandela was always briefed on all matters pertaining to Black struggle!
Powerful conversations.
Ok, here it is, I agree that most people who were apolitical did not know the difference between the PAC, ANC and BCM/AZAPO, however, the riots the bus boycotts and the student uprising did not come out of the blue.
Tsietsi Mashinini and others were students of BC and also PAC, they were taught by two giants who influenced their political thinking, ie Onkgopotse Abram Tiro, who left the country, and was assassinated in 1974(parcel bomb); and Ntate Zephania Mothopeng of the PAC, who was arrested and sentenced for his role in the June 16 1976 riots.
Tiro was already a proponent of BC by the time he was a teacher in Morris Isaacson and was a former leader of a militant black student moveement known as SASO. Though he never taught Tsietsi, Tiro was known to be vocal against Bantu Education and Tsietsi used to visit the BC intellectual firebrand.
Tiro took Tsietsi under his wing and mentored him, sharing political literature that helped to develop Mashinini’s political consciousness.
That is why it was easy for Tsietsi when he went into exile could discourage students from joining both the ANC and the PAC, though the main reasons were that he was not satisfied with their low level of visibility in the country whilst they had guerrilla armies abroad.
Another hero that was involved in the June 1976 was Zephania Mothopeng and other underground leaders of the PAC, actually the connection between the BC young leaders like Gaybon Mabasa, and the PAC was very strong then.
Even when Sobukwe passed away, these young BC leaders worked with Mama Sobukwe in arranging the hero’s funeral, ofcourse the underground PAC was involved too:
“ You Mothopeng, acted to sow seeds of anarchy and revolution. The riots you engineered and predicted eventually took place in Soweto on June 16 and at Kagiso the next day.”
These are the words of Judge Curlewis in the Supreme Court of South Africa in a secret court hearing on 1 July 1979. He was sentencing to imprisonment for the Soweto Uprising(June 16) the following accused Pan Africanist Congress (PAC) leaders and members: Zephania Mothopeng 30 years, Moffat Zungu 7 years, Michael Matsobane 15 years, Daniel Matsobane 12 years, Marks Shinners 12 years, John Ganya 11 years, Benny Ntoele 10 years, Johnson Nyathi 10 years, Themba Hlatswayo 8 years, Goodwill Thlale 8 years, Julius Landingwe 8 years, Sithembele Khala 7 years, Goodwill Moni 7 years, Zolile Ndindwa 7 years, Jerome Kodisang 5 years and Hamilton Keke 5 years.”- Mayihlome News courts transcripts included in the publication),
SASO was formed in July 1968 as a BC student movement , exclusively black. The BPC was launched in July 1972 in Pietermaritzburg. AZAPO as the offshoot of the BCP was formed on the 28 April 1978, in Roodepoort.
Therefore, as much as I love the brains of Mandisa, we cannot just ignore the history and claim that without any political organisation June 16 just sprouted out of thin air.
The bannings of both the PAC and the ANC and years later of SASO and that of BCP, did not leave our people with a vacuum of leadership. Those who belonged to those organisations recentlessly worked to re-establish their work.
Yes some in the SRC like the Student leader after Trofomo Somo, if I am not mistaken, Dan Motshitshi Sechaba admitted that by the time he was an active leader of the SRC, he was not aware of the PAC and the ANC, however, those who organisesd had direct connection to the BC and the PAC.
I joined AZAPO in 1980 and at that time I was not only aware of the PAC and the ANC, but also their political line of thoughts, and how they differ in their approach of the struggle.
I had many debates with those who were in the ANC’s school of thought, we labelled them Charterists and they in turn labelled us amaZim Zim, because our our claim that SA was Azania.
I mean, when one in the leadership of SASCO, AZASCO, AZANYU, AZASM and COSAS just an active member, one was aware of the three main political schools of thought.
Even the unions were divided amongst thise political schools of thoughts eg NACTU and COSATU.
Yes today June 16, March 21 are our heritage, we all own them, but to deny how they originated and who led them will be similar to denying the AMCU led the Marikana workers during that fateful day workers were assassinated by their own government 10 August 2012.
thanks for the details
dope interview rather conversation.
No kaloku sisi the issue is where the money got into the country without being declared
Ramaphosa is the worst president we ever had. Even worse tha PW Botha. He should really just step down. Even Paul Mashatile is not the one.. South africa is in trouble. Even our people, the ordinary people have failed themselves
Having said all that about the cold war Rwanda is being built now because it is the First African vountry to reject France and switch sides to the Anglos.
Why is south Africa not repaying the imf or world bank loans?
She's commenting on things she's clearly saying she's not been following...she started following the PP only last week after the press briefing.
She is a disgrace. I'm no EFF minion but this lady is publicly sending her CV to the current ANC faction
ay u sis mandisa angalishisa izwe ngendlela athembisa ngayo uma ekhuluma, once a person wants to portray themselves as generalist and start saying a lot of things with no proof, i sense a lot of bias from here, she is compromised
Uyaziveza. Especially ekugcineni
inkinga washawa inkomfa
So informative
She's so beautiful and so brilliant
Why did the anglo saxon not build one African economy during the Cold War?
In fact the University of London used to destro African students who studied political science or Finance by giving the bad marks.
The university of London in its charter says they want to train civil servants , to control African economies.
The current governor of the South African central bank was trained at the school of Oriental and African studies.
EVen ghe British know who runs that cookie.
intense a lively discussion
Mandisa ❤
So Mandisa is now a Podcast content creator, yoh
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The iconic glasses are back
I wish people can listen to the interview from Politricking by Tshidi and weigh the insight by the interviewer there.
The very same Mandisa who made an allegation against Lebogang Maile about Alexander house project corruption without evidence, but now she's busy questioning Adv. Mkhwebane's case, which I suppose it has overwhelming evidence.
She is an Agent Operative.
Sbuda is very strong
Good evening grootman DJ Sbu... I'm Wanda Hischild from Mpumalanga in Kwaggafontein, a place where Adv. Busisiwe Mkhwebane grew up and actually matriculated at the same school i matriculated at as well...I had so much respect for Miss Mandisa Mashego I actually held her in high regard but after her utterances about Mam Mkhwebane, and her(Miss Mashego) being a woman too, i couldn't listen to anything she had to say or continue with this episode anymore... please refer her to the opinion piece on IOL by Mam Lindiwe Sisulu on the persecution faced by Adv Mkhwebane and why both the judiciary and the executive(ANC) are so desperate to render her incompetent and dismissed...shame on Mandisa Mashego she's lost all respect from me. I'm currently doing community radio and hope to get into the podcasting space soon. Thanks Legend ❤
I love her... impactful
She's beautiful yooo
Didnt Aggrizi recorded people like Gavin Watson whom he was doing dodgy deals with without their knowledge and that was acceptable in the Zondo commission?
New guest Bro...
Mandisa speaks "as a matter of fact"/ authoratively, but when you look beyond that and analyze what she says there are discrepancies in what she says. From the "looting" being organised (ngihlala KwaZulu, bavele bazitapela abantu) maybe on the N3 it was "possibly" organised (burning of trucks) wazi vezi kwi issue ya Ramaphosa. Is not make sure anymore
So you saying it wasn't organised then. So it was spontaneous
Ramaposas agent 😂😂I’m disappointed
About recordings, Mandisa is very wrong. You can't go back to a criminal and ask him to publicize a recording. Very one-sided opinions about public protector. It is clear she needs a job from ANC
Clearly😅😅
Kanti where’s Penuel?
On that Adv Mkhwebane you missed ntombi, ugejile. Clearly you don't know how to apply POPIA
I think Mandisa I've a serious problem with eff or malima bcz Julius said ANC issue a statement condemning the youth on June 16 .
still bitter from being fired
@@victornkuna497 .u are right
i don't think there is peace at home.
We've no Authority, we've no say as the citizens, i think that we've been betrayed, bcs when they were campaigning they said and even written on their placards that THE PEOPLE SHALL GOVERN, as a result the ruling party owes the people of SAFRICA an explanation to say what did they mean when they said the people shall Govern.
@DjSbu please dont bring this President Ramaphosa Apologist. She has all answers with regards to Mkhwenani but with PhalaPhala is I'm not sure
🤣🤣🤣She's demonstrating her true colors. Who knows, maybe she also received an ewallet.
we miss you in the eff
No, we don't.
Mandisa is right in a lot of ways , but where south africa fits in the cold war, was the anglo saxons hired economists from the universirty of chicago to fight the communists push into south east asia and chile.
Now when the Asians saw the growth in Singapore , they also followed suit.
Now South Africa was supposed to fall next, but De clerk was chosen to end the Cold War, but Russia was economically on its kneees given the assault by Reagan and Thatcjer to reinvigorate the Anglo saxon economis by desocialising them and the arms race.
China is run by the Huns but the Black chinese are excluded and discriminated against and China is asking African countries to give them mines if they default from bank loans.
Now you lnow Africa dies not understand banking?
Link below for Apartheid Guns and Money about arms sold to South Africa.
The economiic sclerosis South Africa is suffering from is caused by leakages from the government sector and a lack of reforms.
China has been practosing national socialism from 1979, whether they will go back to marxism is yet to be seen.
National socialism is a merger between big business and government like in fascism in germany or south america.
Apartheid was a national socialism idea.thay is whybthe rupert family had to be created to match the British houses.
Mandisa missed the point. ANC first statement condemned the 1976 students uprising, she should comment on that
A wealth of knowleadge
Mandisa has changed 😂what happened..I lost the respect
She is on CR side now, she doesn't even making sense anymore
@@barbaramotsepe45 I noticed that when Sbu asked her about Phalaphala
cc dont be late in a meeting period dont even try to explain be a proffesional or not doesnt matter dont be late in a meeting
Hay am not make sure nw abt sis Mandisa...she is not sure if Adv Mkhwebane is legally trained but she is so sure that Ramaphosa is legally trained...hay sisi ur analysis nw is not make sure
How did ANC condemn the youth of 1976?
MK
Google it is very clear, in fact ANC would have guts to come out and have a word as a party bcs it was banned from being active, that's why even when Mashinini skipped the country he was not welcomed, in fact there was rumor that they killed him.
Wouldn't
It means Mandisa is blowing hot air.
@@nathanielkgobe427 yes they went underground but MK was responsible for the training and helping individuals skipping the country. As to what happened in exile it's another topic a history both MK and ANC are not proud of
Shutout to Dj sbudalo n all them followers one love guys
How painful to hear that voice note... And then we have a government of Izimpimpi who are paid to sell our minerals and we are left to starve **THIS GOV**
But the war in Europe is affecting us Mandisa, with prices of bread and everything…
Mandisa Phala Phala is more obvious, we might not be able to prove because the president is protected, same as the emails. You are comparing oranges to apples.
WOW
The anc is internationalist, so they have their friends to please.
The truth is the British gave us this party as a hegelian dialectic, to regain vcontrol from the Boers.
Wr were played, now i am the most hated person in Britain , South Africa and Nigeria. Because i know how this game is played.
What are the preparations post 2024, we do not need the Da in government, they are secterian more than the ANc .
The Anc never studied political science
I find Mandisa to be well spoken and coherent unlike Thuli Madonsela and Makhosi Khoza who forces an accent. But that all, not intelligent or intellectual.
So this bill wants to introduce alternative lifestyles to kids
Sbu looks very unkempt. What happened to him?
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Mandisa did not mince her words when it came to Ace Magashule with regards the evidence of his wrongdoings in the Free State.
My question to Mandisa about Mkweba issue what proof can she provide for this claims if she did not have evidence of the recording and I do not think anyone whose asking for a bribe will agree to be recorded ? Wow and her comment on phala phala makes me question . Whose the buyer of animals did that person declare ? The Or thambo does not have the record of this dollars . 🤔🤔Why also sound like that when you talking about Mkweba's qualification . Do not respect her because of Zuma . And you can respect Ramaposa base on his education wow Sis Mandisa
Indeed, I also felt that she was a bit misaligned on that issue.
@@lendlmaluleke2667 if she is was not taking sides she should blame both ANC presidents , present and past. What proof does she have about President Zuma, If she does have it give it to courts. Evidence about ramaposa was given to police station by Arthur but there investigation. Real I am not taking sides but this time Sisi MandisaI just saw different side of her she was buyers.
Shes not make sure.🤔🙄
Mandisa Mashego s inaccuracies are worrying.
She missed everything and dates about the history.
I love this lady but I feel on this interview she is becoming like any other politician. Something is cooking I'm telling you. She will lose all the respect we have for her.
Mandisa now u ve exposed urself tht u r Ramaphosa s puppet bcz immediately if someone buys with currency it has to be taken to SARS for tax!!