You get what you pay for. Fancy humiliating features? Grabbing things like in real life is such fun because we feel now much more inside of a virtual world or using a Aim controller to feel the next gen of FPS, try with a good HMD, games, not crap please. Try Dirt Rally on PSVR, despite the low resolution it’s a fantastic VR experience but not for the fainted, caution! Good resolution on paper? It’s last gen like PSVR, we have NOW 1600x1440 (Standard today) per eye with Quest or Reverb with 2160x2160 and even more with Pimax (which I don’t recommend btw). But again you can have a fantastic experience even with lower resolution. I guess the cheap crap HMD don’t even does proper 3DOF and go for 6DOF, real VR! 8-Bit? That’s totally exaggerated, you mean like 256x240 pixels.. come on it looks so much better! Too expensive? 399$ for great standalone VR with Quest which could be transformed into full PCVR HMD for about 25$? PSVR for about 500$ with Megapack and PS4 Pro, like Doom VFR, Wipeout, .. or dive in Farpoint, Stormland on PC. I know you will be enthused once you tried a real VR HMD with a good game with the right VR setup (watch especially proper tracking, frame rates and sweet spot/sharpness before you encounter VR!)
You are not so good to show us what is a bad product or best product. You follow the brand and how much money spend for stuff like this. As a matter of fact, you want to push people spend a lot of money for American brand scratch. You are an amator and nothing else! I' ll report you!
This headset is literally worst then the first ever oculus jesus christ, and btw don't get the go it's "not real vr" (you will be disappointed again if you do get it) Dawid get the quest or rift s
Yes, the Quest is probably the best bang for your buck. It's standalone and if you end up liking it it can also double as a PCVR headset. There are also some Windows Mixed Reality headsets that offer a great PCVR experience and cost less than the Quest.
that steam statistic is wrong, I own VR, but whenever i do the Hardware survey the VR system is left unplugged, and if it's unplugged the results it uploads says I don't have VR. Also these cheapo VR systems ruin the market, they are truly terrible and turn people off to what Good VR is
@@kagenlim5271 I really hope that's a joke... Most peripherals cost more than that. I have a 1080p monitor that cost me 160. The market for quest 2 is booming even after the facebook boycotts.
The problem with these lower end headsets is that it turns you off of VR and you may not want to experience what the higher end headsets have to offer.
Malcom McLeod totally agree if you put on such HMD to a new user it may turn out that he/she will never return and misses one of the biggest leap forward in home entertainment! People with VR legs are some kind of responsible to show what VR really is.. the biggest fun in video games since decades. Even with lower budget it’s already possible to have the fun of your life, like Oculus Quest, PSVR.
Samsung odyssey is probably the best absolute budget VR system, should be able to get one under $300. Agree with those recommending a quest, if you can find one
I highly recommend grabbing a second hand Windows mixed Reality headset. you can often find them for like, 150$ with the motion controllers, and man, while it's not as good as a high end Vive or something, it is WELL worth the price. the headtracking is top shelf, the controller tracking is ALMOST excellent, and for the price, it is an amazing intro to VR. :D
@@RandAlThot I use a quest 2 with glasses just fine! Though you should check if your ipd is right for the headset. (you can easily measure it with a mirror). My ipd is actually quite a bit higher than the max setting, making everything very blurry.
@Shunazo And this is exactly why Facebook is getting away with so much bullshit. People like you not giving two shits what they do with your private data. You should be concerned. Facebook putting ads in the headset. Listening in through the mic so they can find out more of your personal life...sell that info to third parties and toss even more ads at you. It uses the camera to identify items in It's viewing area to get even more targeted ads at you. You have to be logged into Facebook to even use it now. And now if your account gets banned, you won't be able to play. All it takes is for some asshurt idiot to report you for something stupid and BOOM...account banned. Their system is highly flawed and there is NO human even monitoring it. So if you try to fight it... good luck trying to get it reversed. It's all ran by dumb bots. The fact you don't give a crap says it all. I've had it with FB. Been on that site since 2010 and it's been nothing but straight DOWNHILL every year. At least I'm not ignorant of the garbage they're pulling. I stopped going on there a month ago and haven't regretted it one bit. FB has it's grubby hands on too much already. Don't need to give them another way to stick their nose into my life. If I were VR gaming on the PC, I'd stick with HTC Vive. I'm no fan of Steam at all... but I'd rather use Steam VR than slap Facebook on my head. Thing I don't like about Steam is, all it takes is not being able go get into your account (getting a ban or getting locked out for some stupid reason) and BOOM...can't play your games...or BOOOOOM...all the games you bought on Steam are now GONE. This same crap can happen on Facebook controlled VR. So...better hope you don't ever get a ban. And don't think it won't ever happen to you either.........
@Shunazo I don't get it either really, I bought my daughters each a Rift-S, and they have never used facebook except for login on VR, and they don't yell out info so what's the deal.
I'm glad you uploaded your experience. It will sway people away from bad VR headsets. I own the HTC Vive and have over all had good experiences. What people need to understand about VR is that unlike a monitor sitting on your desk which allows your brain to think "hey thats over there, its not part of me", a VR experience is actually trying to fool your senses into tricking your brain that you are actually there. With either a bad headset or a under powered computer you end up in a sort of "VR uncanny valley" where your senses are trying to report that your there but there is something wrong. This makes you ill, and RUINS the experience. A good VR setup can still have problems for some people but most people are fine. I only have 1 friend that has problems, and I've introduces around 20 people to VR. That friend gets sick playing something like World of Warcraft or ANY game with 3D movement. Even he was fine in Google Earth VR and really enjoyed it, until he started trying to "move one way" while "looking another" repeatedly. That did him in. I tried to warn him (knowing he was prone to getting sick) but he was having a good time and didn't listen Hopefully you give it another shot with a better headset and a PC that can push a CONSISTANT 90 fps. Good tracking and High FPS is extra important for VR sensitive people.
Vir3o Odyssey +, Lenovo Explorer for example if you are serious about VR there is entry level hardware which works a lot better than the 3DOF thing, agreed.
Yeah I was pretty strong in vr from the start until I tried "riding in a vehicle", I'm better about it now at least, but If I don't have too I won't lol.
haha 😁 seems so, hopefully nobody is turning into a Ant after wearing it. Do you heard of a russian farmer who build a HMD for his cows to show them always green meadows?
I've been using the HTC Vive for the PC since 2018 and been impressed with how much VR has improved in recent years. It has a good selection of apps and games, with new ones being released on a fairly regular basis. You hear of some feeling sick, or having headaches when trying VR, but if someone is able to have a good experience using VR, it's difficult to go back to a time without it. You can run some things in VR on basic setting using a GTX 1050, but a GTX 970 is recommended as entry level. Google Earth, Beat Saber, Pavlov, Zomday, Arizona Sunshine, Dead Effect 2, Serious Sam, Payday 2, The Talos Principle, are a handful of many popular VR experiences. Movies are now beginning to be released for people to watch through the VR headset.
yes, it's not just about games, Google Earth VR should be standard in any school class now, such a fantastic app to get a feeling how our earth is shaped, flying like Iron Man through your town, climb the highest buildings, look at the mountains and maybe plan your next real life tour! Such HMDs like in the video should get a big warning sign on the box, "Don't try VR with me! You'll will regret it!" and maybe advertisment for todays cheapest and good standard HMD's like Quest, Rift S, Odysee + (inside-out tracking) If i look at games, there are already such impressive experiences like Boneworks (you need a powerful PC for that), Stormland, Minecraft VR, Lone Echo. For Quest Vader Immortal, Racket NX, Racket Fury, Superhot VR, Thrill of the Fight, Space Pirate Trainer,.. for PSVR Farpoint (wow!), Dirt Rally VR, Shooty Fruity, Blaster of the Universe, Doom VFR, Skyrim VR, The Persistence, Astrobots, Firewall Zero Hour, No Mans Sky, Wipeout Omega Collection, Arizona Sunshine, Beat Saber, Box VR, .. you can do daily exercises with VR, educate yourself and have fun with online-co-op. But first choose a right setup (console, standalone and/or PC) but i emphasize on that, if you wanna experience real VR go for a full 6DOF HMD, NOT 3DOF! It's not the same, a Go is not a Quest, ANTVR is much worse than a Go and just 3DOF too, which is no real VR!
@@tinovfr Yes, It's true what you say about how versatile VR can be. Google Earth is a fantastic experience and would be great in schools. I know some who use Beat Saber as an exercise program. Even games like Pavlov, Doom VFR, Dead Space, Zomday etc could be useful for those interested in say, the military. The Talos Principle VR offers puzzle solving challenges. Experiencing Minecraft in VR was interesting as well. I've tried Dirt Rally VR with a seat, wheel and pedals etc, which again is a really fun experience. My relative purchased the tracking pads as well that he uses in apps like VR chat which is very popular. But it's true what you say about don't buy 'low end VR' it can ruin the experience for someone and put them off VR altogether. Especially if they experience headaches and sickness, that a better setup would probably reduce significantly or even eliminate. My advice is for someone to patiently save up and look to buy decent setup, pre-owned if necessary. First a PC capable of running VR, then save up and get a decent VR system to run on it. It should give the person (along with family/friends) some great experiences for a while. This saves them buying a cheap setup, having problems and quickly regretting wasting the money they had.
I had such high hopes for this. But in the end the lame graphics and nausea inducing motion was just too hard to get over! Beautiful video as always though ☺️
Dear Oculus, you gave the Quest, an amazing VR headset away like apples to the most under-rated/over-rated TH-camrs ever. Please give my mans a Quest. Hope this stupid first experience doesn’t put you off VR honestly grab a Quest for a good cordless or even corded first experience (Trust me, I’m prone to motion sickness but I love the quest and beat saber) or an Index for an amazing but expensive and crazy experience. Awesome video by the way though 😊
Seriously, Oculus needs to carpet bomb youtubers with gifted Quests to set the public straight on what actual VR is about. And Valve should also be precision sniping selected gaming and tech channels with free Indexes, to get some coverage for their end too. I half have the mind to go buy a Quest, and just spend my time in the city letting passers by try it out.
UnknownSquid you have no clue how many people I show at family events, social gatherings/parties and random people at school and university who see it and immediately go out and buy one the next day. My personal biggest enjoyment in life is others excitement and amazement to virtual reality. Totally agree with Valve not being on the ball.
First experience with VR, should never happen with a cheap ass china headset, also no roller coaster , racing games or fast paced games in general. I got motion sick easily in the beginning and now I can do 6 hours in one take without any problems at all as the human brain/ body adapts to it. its simply " getting used to it" ever since then I do VR on a daily basis and I totally love it. I own the Vive, the Index, and the Oculus Quest. For starters I would totally recommend the Quest, as it is a mobile stand alone solution but also features the possibility to connect it to your gaming PC for full pleged high quality VR Games from Steam or Oculus. The Oculus Go is nice and cheap, but it is missing the 6 directions of freedom and 2 proper controller which means you cannot move around but more likely just look around from one position which takes most of the fun out of VR. Also there is only one controller that comes with the GO which also isnt tracked in 3D. So again, the best option in my opinion is the Oculus Quest.
For the first month of vr I just played games where I didn't need to more around like beatsaber, superhot vr and using teleportation in vrchat, and getting a lil bit adapted step by step in Pavlov and vrchat, and it worked. Now I can jump off building and the such without feeling an inch of nausea
I really like the Quest Demos like Bogo, First Contact, First Steps. If i have people new to VR i starting from there.. but sometimes they just want the Rollercoaster 😆 first. The Quest was just a nobrainer for me, superb tracking, complete mobile 6DOF, great fun games, PC option with cheap cable, great dev support (like hand tracking), OLED 1440x1600. So if you wanna take a step further into PCVR you can just do it with the mobile Quest too to try Boneworks and other great stuff. If i look to value per dollar this is a clear winner over any cheap eastern stuff like this, because the Oculus Quest really creates a great VR experience which this ANTVR just ruins for yourself and others, would'nt even pay 1$ for it.
The reason that the resolution seems so poor despite the large number of pixels is that VR headsets distribute those pixels over a large viewing angle and then divide it between 2 images, one for each eye. Anything you're viewing at any given moment is zoomed in to a tiny portion of the display screen.
Exactly this resolution is first gen consumer HMDs and it's very low compared to the 1440x1600 of a Quest or a 2160x2160 of a Reverb. The shown HMD with 110° FOV (i guess diagonal) already needs far more pixels than a ordinary flat screen in front of you (17" or 21" for example) to get the same ppi (it's just like small window into the virtual world). But it also depends on the used panels like the PSVR demonstrated very well, despite the lower resolution 960x1080 per eye the colors are vivid, brightness is very good and the OLED RBG panel with 3 subpixels per pixel reduce the screendoor effect massively and you get very good immersion. I guess these panels did not a very good job if he compares it to 8-Bit 🙂.
I invested in the (pre-cosmos) gen HTC Vive and I could not be more happy with it! There is a reason vr is expensive and if you are looking to get into this kind of gaming it is definitely not a place you want to cut-corners on spending. Worth every penny
Those are fresnel lenses. The Oculus Quest uses them, and while there is some light aberration, for the most part it's really good. So the problem isn't the fresnel lenses on your AntVR headset, it's likely that the manufacturers simply lied about the resolution of the dual LED screens.
Awesome video! Quick correction: the AntVR marketing is bullshit, it's not "9-axis" tracking, it's "3-axis" tracking (also known as 3DOF tracking, x,y,z rotational only) "Real VR" headsets like the vive or quest have 6DOF tracking (x,y,z rotational and x,y,z positional) I have the oculus quest and it is the best thing to ever happen to PC gaming since... forever. Seriously, I highly recommend that you pick up a Rift S or Quest right now. edit: also the oculus go is more of a movie watching machine, it only has 3DOF tracking which is why it's so cheap - don't get it
I would suggest a WMR headset for a reasonable budget VR experience. I have one and aside from controller tracking being irritating, it is actually a fair experience. However the Oculus Quest is probably the best idea for a budget headset. The Quest not only can be used as a standalone, but can also connect to a PC for gaming. Either would be worth a look for budget VR.
Angry Genie yes you can even fold up the display like on the (bad) Cosmos nice for glasses, which is an issue with the Cosmos btw because distance to the lenses seems to small
Angry Genie but if I look for most value for price and modern tech I woul go for the Quest today, it’s not an Index fidelity but far far superior to this crappy HMD presented here
I was lucky and got to play around with VR back around 94 or so in like middle school. I mean the world was all cubes and the frame rate was likely under 20, but it was running on a 80486 class server array. Funny part was when "jumping" from the roof, the presenter offered to help get you down from the ledge safely if you wanted. I still to this day don't get that. I'd LOVE to have a headset myself, but space is my problem.
I was under the impression that the Oculus Quest was really well priced and really worth it. Does everyone just want to skip to Black Mirror or something?
Phone VR is still only 3DoF and not really actual VR in my opinion. It's just a 3D viewer. More like looking through a periscope into a virtual world, rather than actually feeling like you're IN that world and exist as part of it. Very very different thing, that the VR industry has utterly failed to market correctly, and done a lot of harm to itself over.
Dawid, just as a heads up, high motion games will make new VR users extremely prone to motion sickness so try something where your character is at a standstill first and try adjusting more and more to more motion intensive games
I bought an Oculus Rift a couple of years ago. I was nervous about the nausea, since even some 2D footage of choppy games makes me feel queasy. But VR doesn't have that effect on me.
That's because it's proper VR, not just an awkward 3D viewer. Half the claims about motion sickness come from people messing around with that atrocious phone based VR, and getting put on the stupid roller coaster app by their friends.
With regards to the feeling sick etc, In my experience you can somewhat train yourself to become more tolerant to it in VR. When I first got my headset and played DCS, man I did one barrel roll and that was that, 5 mins of play time and I was ruined for the day. Nowadays I can spend literally hours on end in it with no adverse side affects. That said, I haven't had much luck with first-person, non teleporting games. They make me a bit nauseated still, but I don't spend enough time in them to build up any immunity. Dirt Rally and KartKraft are the only racing games I've experienced any discomfort in. Both could be settings related, but again, I haven't spent enough time in them. Project Cars 2 though, simply unreal. I strongly recommend you try that driving game in VR. I haven't yet experienced any of the ill feelings from Dirt Rally in Project Cars2. I'd be keen to know your experience.
At this point it's a bad idea to get a new VR headset. You can go to the 2nd hand market where the prices are more reasonable, tho a little bit pricier than the option that you showed us in this video, but surely a way better experience. I've got a Samsung VR (that one which you can put the phone on the headset) and compared to a normal VR headset for phones is a good option. Sure you will notice the pixels even if it's on 2K resolution, but the tracking it's very good, if you are a normal person you can last about 30 min to an hour without getting dizzy.
I'm not sold on VR gaming yet. It works really well for a minute or two but then it is like my other senses catch up and I get pulled out of the game, I end up finding the games less immersive than just playing on a monitor. What I am completely sold on is VR for media consumption. Sitting down and watching a movie in the SKYBOX VR movie theatre is a great experience on my Gear VR. There are times that I've forgotten where I am and stand to go to the toilet only to walk straight into my desk. I can wear my glasses with it but they end up slipping down my nose, so I leave them off and adjust the focus on the headset. VR could be the future of gaming but we're not there yet.
The first "VR" set I ever tried was the VictorMaxx Virtual Reality Stuntmaster Headset from the early 90's. If you really want to see the worst ever, compare to that.
The oculus go is primarily for content consumption, it does not have many games. If I'm not mistaken oculus is abandoning the go soon and marking the quest as its replacement.
I have the Oculus Rift S, which is supposed to be one of the better VR headsets; however, it leaves a few things to be desired. 1. field of view could be larger, as it's like playing with goggles on, like night vision goggles without night vision and less comfortable than night vision goggles. 2. graphics quality is advertised as 1440p, but isn't as good as 1080p flat screen. 3. frame rate is half of whatever you're getting on a 1080p flat screen. 4. Why S? 5. it's made by Facebook, I guess the S stands for Social. 6. I can't think of anything else right now, but I'm confident I'll recall something soon as I use it again. 7. O.K. I used it again.... IPD adjustment is nonexistent, it has software IPD adjustment; however, it does absolutely nothing when you adjust it. Would it have killed Facebook to put a manual IPD adjustment on the Rift S? Did Facebook think users wouldn't notice the software IPD adjustment does nothing??? Maybe the S stands for Secret IPD adjustment method. 8. Facebook owes all Rift S buyers a free manual IPD adjustment upgrade. For $400 they should have included a voucher for an optometrist visit to get your IPD measured and a custom Rift S build to match your IPD. 9. You can see the concentric circles cut out in the Rift S also. What is that chart about???
@@birdsplaybs1234 I've adjusted every thing that can be adjust in all possible combinations and the resolution is not better than my 1080p flat screen, it would be a huge improvement if it were. The IPD database is a flimsy excuse for a solution, it's like saying "We're not going to fix the issue so go suck it". They should have put an adjustable IPD on the thing. No amount of litterateur is going to make the lack of one acceptable. If you don't demand better I guarantee you won't get it. So as long as there are people like Thomas defending bad design don't expect a better product.
@@birdsplaybs1234 No you don't get what you pay for. You pay too much and wish there was a better value available, but there isn't. The $4000 headset is better than the $400 headset but it's not a value. If people would demand better and send the just o.k. stuff back they would begin to see better products in the market at better prices.
I agree for a first experience but that’s as far as I’d say. I could not stomach Boneworks or even beat saber’s terrible tracking on a high end WMR Lenovo headset. The Quest however is more expensive well and truly but infinitely more better then Mixed Reality even with Oculus Link.
The fact you can experience VR for under $1,000 is pretty awesome, the prices are going to just keep going down. I would probably never buy a $100 one but should be able to get a decent quality experience for a couple hundred dollars. I've seen a few websites explaining how to use your phone and that smartphone holder that you got with a PC to get a VR experience on the cheap, you should try it out. I can't reach my headset in the closet, it's too far away so I haven't been able to try it out.
Gotta have a good pc, lots of room to set it up and as you mentioned the physical issues that accompany it. I guess they have the new stand alone thing that doesn't require a pc now, so it's improving.
Get a Samsung Odyssey+, they go on sale for $230 very often and they have OLED screens, higher than vive resolution, and works great. I have one and with a extra comfort strap for like $20 it’s perfect.
I have an Oculus DK2... the resolution is way lower than your AntVR thing... However the head tracking on the Oculus DK2 is spot on, which makes it half decent. I had some fun with it on Project Cars2 and Elite Dangerous... which is amazing with a good VR. But the resolution is a killer, the gian pixels ruin the experience. But Bad Tracking, that's got to be so much worse. Bad tracking will make you sick.
diy solution : to increase the head tracking which that favors immersion (most important i think with the windows effect) is make your own head tracker with custom pseye ir , 3d printed delan clip ir and software solution like facetrack noir or opentrack.works on steam then it work perfectly with all vr set, it need some setting to reduce the latency to avoid sickness effect . more with 2 pseyes + psmove service you can have little room scale
By that point, price and money I’d rather of spent another $40 and got a brand new Mixed Reality headset to be honest or just saved another $100 and bit the bullet on a Rift S or Quest.
The budget option is going on ebay and selecting one of the windows mixed reality VR sets, Like the Lenovo explorer. found 2X them for ~$100-120 for the complete set and work pretty good, amazing for the price.
I like watching flat screen gamers spend $1000+ on a curved ultra wide that gets like 75hz but pass up a $400 360 degrees infinite monitor generator that goes at 120hz and can also play the newest half life game, just the current generation of those people who got mad that graphics cards were becoming needed
Hey! Those circles on the lens are not caused by the machining process, it's just a Fresnel lens - please look for it on the internet, as YT doesn't allow links.
If you want to play VR on a budget, buy an Oculus Quest. No expensive PC needed (however, you can connect to a PC if you want) and you do have 6 DOF VR. It’s absolutely and without any doubt the best value for money in the whole VR scene. And the picture quality is better than a HTC Vive. Tracking works flawlessly and allthough it runs on a slightly older mobile chipset, the graphics are more than decent. The Oculus Go is (about to be) discontinued, so the 3DOF days are finally over.
I think the Oculus Go hooked to a PC is going to give you a way better experience. After all, just because that $122 headset says it runs at a specific resolution, doesn't mean it does. False specs on AliExpress listings are pretty common.
This video is so uncomfortable to watch. Every 15 seconds I'm just shaking my head and mouse around say "No no no". At least you've successfully warned people away from this cheap crap, but this is such a horrible misrepresentation of what real VR is. It's like saying, "I heard about this gaming stuff and got pretty excited, but PCs are expensive so I bought a tamogochi." It's genuinely that bad. Ok, first up! 6DoF (Six degrees of freedom) is a VITAL feature for any gaming in VR. Do not even consider 3DoF headsets such as this, phone based VR, or the Oculus Go for gaming. They should be reserved solely for 360 degree/stereo video viewing and honestly aren't good for much else. They've harmed the image of VR more than anything else ever could. Even products from respectable brands like the Oculus Go, are NOT the same thing as a Rift or Vive and should not be confused for the such. They serve entirely different use cases. Secondly, roomscale and motion controls are NOT gimmicks, they are where VR really shines and becomes something transformative. Seated "cockpit" experiences like driving or flying are also ideally suited for VR, so if that's someone's thing all the power to them, but anyone that only ever sits and holds an xbox controller whilst in VR is sorely missing out. Thirdly, the majority of motion sickness comes from poor tracking, lack of 6DoF, lack of IPD adjustment, and sub-par displays. Opting for a budget fake VR set like this was the worst possible thing you could do. Many people who previously reported motion sickness on earlier headsets such as the Rift dev kits or messing with "phone VR", no longer suffer it on newer ones. Fourth, you need your glasses inside VR to see correctly. The nature of the lenses simulates depth, and you will not be able to see clearly unless you do. Regardless of the screen technically being two inches away, that's not how your eyes see it. Fortunately most of the main brands of headset do offer enough space inside for glasses (My Vive and Index are plenty spacious and adjustable for zero glasses issues), though you may need to consider a slightly more compact pair without the flared horns on the frame. On general budget headset selection, the cheapest viable option for true 6DoF VR on PC is the WMR (Windows Mixed Reality) headsets. They're not all perfect, but all are serviceable. The Lenovo Explorer is well rated and one of the cheapest if you can find it in stock anywhere, or alternatively the Samsung Odyssey+ offers premium quality from a trusted brand, for only a little more at $300, and is easily recommendable if on a budget. The main drawback of the WMR brand is they only have two cameras, so have a slightly limited frontal tracking range. Do not get anything cheaper than a WMR unless you know exactly what it is and understand the differences. For more specifically gaming oriented headsets, you then have the Rift-S at $400, which sports three additional cameras for much wider tracking coverage, slightly more ideal for games with a greater range of movement. If you can snag a refurbished Vive for the same price, you can get Lighthouse based tracking for total 360 tracking without any blind spots, and near flawless tracking (a favourite trick of mine is throwing the controller to guests that are wearing the headset. They see it practically 1-to-1 as it is in reality, and nearly always catch it, much to their surprise). And then you have the Quest, also at $400 but with a $500 option. The Quest is a fully standalone portable headset that doesn't require a PC, and unlike phone VR, is still the real deal. 6DoF, beyond roomscale, high resolution, great tracking, IPD adjustable, designed around proper motion controls. It trades graphical fidelity for allowing you to shed the tether. Alternatively you can still link it to a PC using certain USB cables, and thus play any PC-VR game, but at a very slightly impaired quality/latency compared to a dedicated PC-VR set. Moving out of budget/midrange. Don't get the Vive Cosmos. Simply put it's a badly flawed headset and not worth it's cost. I'd hate to see you unwittingly move from this shameful abomination to that tragic mistake, by accident. ^ ^; Vive-Pro is gradually getting cheaper and is an overall great headset, but is still rather over priced. Get only on a great deal or if you are looking to get into VR dancing and value the wireless. Index is pricy and there's a Tesla style waiting list to enter if you want to own one, but is the all round best consumer viable headset on offer right now.
It's not the screen's distance from the eye, but the fact the game doesn't account for eye movement to change the image accordingly. it's something you can account for, but requires eye tracking and that's not common yet. Human eyes actually cross to meet at the object the brain wants to focus on, but no current game knows where each eye is looking, so it can't account for it. According to the freind who's DK2 I got to use, this takes a few days to get used to (I'm blind in an eye so I couldn't tell, lol) Quite frankly... Just buy a headset used. CV1s are okay and they sell for Go prices. Also, The roomscale stuff does require a pretty large room. And you do have to be into immersion as a gamer to enjoy VR, and explicitly to enjoy Roomscale. I'm playing two different games right now, while commenting on TH-cam... Considering that I can buy certain types of 'dead' CV1s I might do so, and they'll even come with those controllers, I doubt I'll ever use them.
@@DFX2KX Hmm? Were you replying to the part where I was talking about still needing glasses? That aspect is nothing to do with accounting for eye movement or stereo focal depth. It's entirely the lens design and how it simulates roughly 2m of distance. If I remove my glasses and get close to my PCs monitor, it becomes clear again. If I hold up a VR lens (removed from a previous headset) to my monitor, it appears blurry unless I view it from up close with my glasses on again. It's simply how the lenses work. Also I wouldn't say you _need_ a massive space to play room scale games necessarily. A friend of mine plays games like Blade&Sorcery, Gorn, Sairento, etc, in a floor space that is barely two foot wide, simply by leaning his knees against his bed and facing that way. He can safely flail his arms all around that bed, lean side to side, stand or crouch etc, without any issues. Obviously games like those are at their best if you're able to step, duck and dive all over the place, and really go ham, but it's entirely possible to still enjoy them just fine with more limited space. In either case, you can easily see that David's room is waaaay more than big enough for Roomscale VR. Most VR owners would be utterly thrilled to get a space like that. I spend my weekends doing full body dancing in VR, with only a quarter of the space. David has no issues there whatsoever.
At my university, they let you rent out vr headsets. They have the quest and the go. I have used both. Honestly, I liked it for a bit but then I got bored fairly quickly. I just don't think the technology is ready yet. It needs to become cheaper and more accessible. It is a great thing to try but not to use everyday. It is kinda like roller coaster. Once and while it is great but I just couldn't see my self using it even once a week. Hopefully it matures in the future.
I really wish they had like the VR go but where you could hook it up to a computer. Like the specialized controllers are cool but very inconvenient. I think if they where to sell an option where it is just the headset and you can use your computer to run the VR and then you could use a standard gaming controller. VR would be more popular and just a better expereince.
You should skip the Go and aim for a Quest instead. The Go is like.. Basically phone VR. The quest is a standalone real VR headset, and if you have a nice USB-C cable you can plug it into your PC and play games off of it as well.
VR and budget don’t really match, for pc games I’d basically have to say ONLY get valve index if you value the resolution. Because it already a high resolution but gives u the option to super sample the per eye resolution to 4k making the gaming experience A LOT better (provides you have the hardware to back up) if you want to use ur headset for videos or outside of ur pc the the oculus models are a good alternative
If you get sick from vr' you probably play less than 120fps. Stutters get me sick too' and I have no issues with vr on my valve index' and I play daily.
I too enjoy dirt rally, bought the lenovo VR mixed reality and tried to pipe it into the headseat via steam -- I made one lame effort and gave up b/c too busy. Please tell me what is the no brainer, no effort VR w/ dirt rally set up.
PCVR still has it's pitfalls but once you know a litte bit about it's no issue anymore. If you want super-easy real VR there is just the Oculus Quest, it has the easiest setup i'd ever seen, but no Dirt Rally because of the Snapdragon 835 it would be no fun for a simulation enthusiast who expects high fidelity graphics. But maybe a PSVR with PS4 Pro could do the job for you. Once you have done the setup of the camera on your TV or where you put it on (front tracking) , the system works like a work horse without Steam and other stuff, just turn on and start Dirt Rally but one caveat is also the lower resolution and maybe power, even then PS4 Pro has much more power than a Quest it has no chance against a RTX2080 PC for example. I had great fun with Dirt Rally on PSVR, but i'm not a simulation enthusiast, but the immersion was just wow! After that flat games, especially driving are simply boring 🙂. It's like you feeling every turn, bump and slope and you can simply drive better in VR.
Dawid: VR is too expensive, it's time to find cheaper options.
Also Dawid: buying 5700 XT Waifu edition for $700
Bohdan Lvov he dresses like waifu to relax
Waifu can never be too expensive. 😂
@@Machistmo Hahaha!!
@lowang fu kyu Haha!! I would actually really like one. 😅
You get what you pay for.
Fancy humiliating features? Grabbing things like in real life is such fun because we feel now much more inside of a virtual world or using a Aim controller to feel the next gen of FPS, try with a good HMD, games, not crap please. Try Dirt Rally on PSVR, despite the low resolution it’s a fantastic VR experience but not for the fainted, caution!
Good resolution on paper? It’s last gen like PSVR, we have NOW 1600x1440 (Standard today) per eye with Quest or Reverb with 2160x2160 and even more with Pimax (which I don’t recommend btw). But again you can have a fantastic experience even with lower resolution. I guess the cheap crap HMD don’t even does proper 3DOF and go for 6DOF, real VR!
8-Bit? That’s totally exaggerated, you mean like 256x240 pixels.. come on it looks so much better!
Too expensive? 399$ for great standalone VR with Quest which could be transformed into full PCVR HMD for about 25$? PSVR for about 500$ with Megapack and PS4 Pro, like Doom VFR, Wipeout, .. or dive in Farpoint, Stormland on PC. I know you will be enthused once you tried a real VR HMD with a good game with the right VR setup (watch especially proper tracking, frame rates and sweet spot/sharpness before you encounter VR!)
"I watched some VR content on it" - Dawid.
Ok, I get what you're trying to say, say no more.
Ai meu Deus Zé-
This wouldn't even be good enough for WSS.
Ha! porn!
terrible experience on VR content = i can't see if someone is coming in my room
Lucky you it doesn't have any speaker
get a real vr headset pleas, this headset destroys the image of what actual roomscale vr is
Dacian Kolkhuis Tanke ^^ agreed, this shines a negative light on Vr, this is not Vr whatsoever
If your eyes hurt immediately when viewing the headset's image, something is seriously wrong.
Is?
You are not so good to show us what is a bad product or best product. You follow the brand and how much money spend for stuff like this. As a matter of fact, you want to push people spend a lot of money for American brand scratch. You are an amator and nothing else! I' ll report you!
no shit sherlock
This headset is literally worst then the first ever oculus jesus christ, and btw don't get the go it's "not real vr" (you will be disappointed again if you do get it) Dawid get the quest or rift s
It really is terrible. I refuse to ever use that headset again. 😅 I will try out something better at some point.
I can vouch for the quest. It's a very good experience.
Got a quest recently. Utterly impressed by it. And it's still getting better with software updates.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Make a teardown video!
Yes, the Quest is probably the best bang for your buck. It's standalone and if you end up liking it it can also double as a PCVR headset. There are also some Windows Mixed Reality headsets that offer a great PCVR experience and cost less than the Quest.
that steam statistic is wrong, I own VR, but whenever i do the Hardware survey the VR system is left unplugged, and if it's unplugged the results it uploads says I don't have VR. Also these cheapo VR systems ruin the market, they are truly terrible and turn people off to what Good VR is
Expensive vr also turns me off, because it's too expensive and I don't have studio apartment which a lot of space.
@@IR4TE exactly. Vr has tp be sub 100, otherwise itll die
@@kagenlim5271 I really hope that's a joke... Most peripherals cost more than that. I have a 1080p monitor that cost me 160. The market for quest 2 is booming even after the facebook boycotts.
@@WhereThatWallAt you can get 2nd hand monitors for cheap or even free
@@kagenlim5271 not good ones
"Never actually experienced VR before."
Yeah, OK, let's get this guy to review the cheapest VR headset our channel can afford.
We're gonna ruin VR for this guy.
@@CaveyMoth
yep.
"You cannot accommodate my girth." - Dawid, Jan. 25, 2020.
By other VR content he means Phub
Hahaha!! How did you know? 😂
Dawid Does Tech Stuff just a wild guess
That will save VR.
They have a VR version? Now that's dedication.
@@Schattennebel
Was it... dead?
The problem with these lower end headsets is that it turns you off of VR and you may not want to experience what the higher end headsets have to offer.
Malcom McLeod totally agree if you put on such HMD to a new user it may turn out that he/she will never return and misses one of the biggest leap forward in home entertainment! People with VR legs are some kind of responsible to show what VR really is.. the biggest fun in video games since decades. Even with lower budget it’s already possible to have the fun of your life, like Oculus Quest, PSVR.
Samsung odyssey is probably the best absolute budget VR system, should be able to get one under $300. Agree with those recommending a quest, if you can find one
@@AKCobra1120 I found a quest 2 for $200, but I only have $100
You can buy a Windows MR headset with full room tracking for $150!!! They're worth the price, as they're actually pretty good!
This. Infinitely better choice for budget VR that's actually worthy of being called VR.
@@jackthatkid9058 I'd love to see some paid ads for WMR. REPRESENT!
You can usually find WMR headsets for cheap. Like I've seen used ones for $100 xD. WMR would have been an infinitely better option.
Cole Slav oh yes even the Lenovo Explorer with 1440x1440 and 6DOF is a far better option than this crap!
100% I have a samsung odyssey. Once you get the lighting figured out, it's almost a flawless experience.
Tino Riedel I got the Lenovo and it looked like scuba goggles, and it had a weird rainbow outline
I love my WMR headsets, and I feel no urge to upgrade from them.
a hundred bucks?
I highly recommend grabbing a second hand Windows mixed Reality headset. you can often find them for like, 150$ with the motion controllers, and man, while it's not as good as a high end Vive or something, it is WELL worth the price. the headtracking is top shelf, the controller tracking is ALMOST excellent, and for the price, it is an amazing intro to VR. :D
Rift S user and glasses wearer (and i'm talking coke bottle thicc) go for that one, it's super comfy with glasses and runs perfect :D
But the rift s is very expensive especially in my country.
@@RandAlThot I use a quest 2 with glasses just fine!
Though you should check if your ipd is right for the headset. (you can easily measure it with a mirror). My ipd is actually quite a bit higher than the max setting, making everything very blurry.
And has Facebook hands all over it too. Hard pass.
@Shunazo And this is exactly why Facebook is getting away with so much bullshit. People like you not giving two shits what they do with your private data. You should be concerned.
Facebook putting ads in the headset. Listening in through the mic so they can find out more of your personal life...sell that info to third parties and toss even more ads at you. It uses the camera to identify items in It's viewing area to get even more targeted ads at you. You have to be logged into Facebook to even use it now. And now if your account gets banned, you won't be able to play. All it takes is for some asshurt idiot to report you for something stupid and BOOM...account banned. Their system is highly flawed and there is NO human even monitoring it. So if you try to fight it... good luck trying to get it reversed. It's all ran by dumb bots.
The fact you don't give a crap says it all. I've had it with FB. Been on that site since 2010 and it's been nothing but straight DOWNHILL every year. At least I'm not ignorant of the garbage they're pulling. I stopped going on there a month ago and haven't regretted it one bit. FB has it's grubby hands on too much already. Don't need to give them another way to stick their nose into my life.
If I were VR gaming on the PC, I'd stick with HTC Vive. I'm no fan of Steam at all... but I'd rather use Steam VR than slap Facebook on my head. Thing I don't like about Steam is, all it takes is not being able go get into your account (getting a ban or getting locked out for some stupid reason) and BOOM...can't play your games...or BOOOOOM...all the games you bought on Steam are now GONE. This same crap can happen on Facebook controlled VR. So...better hope you don't ever get a ban. And don't think it won't ever happen to you either.........
@Shunazo I don't get it either really, I bought my daughters each a Rift-S, and they have never used facebook except for login on VR, and they don't yell out info so what's the deal.
I'm glad you uploaded your experience. It will sway people away from bad VR headsets. I own the HTC Vive and have over all had good experiences. What people need to understand about VR is that unlike a monitor sitting on your desk which allows your brain to think "hey thats over there, its not part of me", a VR experience is actually trying to fool your senses into tricking your brain that you are actually there. With either a bad headset or a under powered computer you end up in a sort of "VR uncanny valley" where your senses are trying to report that your there but there is something wrong. This makes you ill, and RUINS the experience. A good VR setup can still have problems for some people but most people are fine. I only have 1 friend that has problems, and I've introduces around 20 people to VR. That friend gets sick playing something like World of Warcraft or ANY game with 3D movement. Even he was fine in Google Earth VR and really enjoyed it, until he started trying to "move one way" while "looking another" repeatedly. That did him in. I tried to warn him (knowing he was prone to getting sick) but he was having a good time and didn't listen Hopefully you give it another shot with a better headset and a PC that can push a CONSISTANT 90 fps. Good tracking and High FPS is extra important for VR sensitive people.
He said 'accommodate my girth' 5:54 - oh it will - it will
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You can get a wmr headset with 6dof for very cheap nowadays
Second this. I've had an HP WMR set for almost two years and love it. $150 refurbished.
Vir3o Odyssey +, Lenovo Explorer for example if you are serious about VR there is entry level hardware which works a lot better than the 3DOF thing, agreed.
Offer still stands, I think you'll be thoroughly impressed by the Index!
9:40 - KITTY!
Yeah! 😅
Racing games are a bad first choice if trying to avoid motion sickness, build up to fast moving VR games in general
Yeah I was pretty strong in vr from the start until I tried "riding in a vehicle", I'm better about it now at least, but If I don't have too I won't lol.
The fact the Oculus Quest 2 exists now basically makes this entire thing redundant because that's GOOD VR for cheap
The lens cutout looks like a fresnel lens, used in a lighthouse to concentrate all the light in a single direction
dude i havent enjoyed youtube content like this for awhile
i love it thank you!
What is this... VR for ANTS?!
haha 😁 seems so, hopefully nobody is turning into a Ant after wearing it. Do you heard of a russian farmer who build a HMD for his cows to show them always green meadows?
I've been using the HTC Vive for the PC since 2018 and been impressed with how much VR has improved in recent years. It has a good selection of apps and games, with new ones being released on a fairly regular basis. You hear of some feeling sick, or having headaches when trying VR, but if someone is able to have a good experience using VR, it's difficult to go back to a time without it. You can run some things in VR on basic setting using a GTX 1050, but a GTX 970 is recommended as entry level. Google Earth, Beat Saber, Pavlov, Zomday, Arizona Sunshine, Dead Effect 2, Serious Sam, Payday 2, The Talos Principle, are a handful of many popular VR experiences. Movies are now beginning to be released for people to watch through the VR headset.
yes, it's not just about games, Google Earth VR should be standard in any school class now, such a fantastic app to get a feeling how our earth is shaped, flying like Iron Man through your town, climb the highest buildings, look at the mountains and maybe plan your next real life tour! Such HMDs like in the video should get a big warning sign on the box, "Don't try VR with me! You'll will regret it!" and maybe advertisment for todays cheapest and good standard HMD's like Quest, Rift S, Odysee + (inside-out tracking)
If i look at games, there are already such impressive experiences like Boneworks (you need a powerful PC for that), Stormland, Minecraft VR, Lone Echo. For Quest Vader Immortal, Racket NX, Racket Fury, Superhot VR, Thrill of the Fight, Space Pirate Trainer,.. for PSVR Farpoint (wow!), Dirt Rally VR, Shooty Fruity, Blaster of the Universe, Doom VFR, Skyrim VR, The Persistence, Astrobots, Firewall Zero Hour, No Mans Sky, Wipeout Omega Collection, Arizona Sunshine, Beat Saber, Box VR, .. you can do daily exercises with VR, educate yourself and have fun with online-co-op.
But first choose a right setup (console, standalone and/or PC) but i emphasize on that, if you wanna experience real VR go for a full 6DOF HMD, NOT 3DOF! It's not the same, a Go is not a Quest, ANTVR is much worse than a Go and just 3DOF too, which is no real VR!
@@tinovfr Yes, It's true what you say about how versatile VR can be. Google Earth is a fantastic experience and would be great in schools. I know some who use Beat Saber as an exercise program. Even games like Pavlov, Doom VFR, Dead Space, Zomday etc could be useful for those interested in say, the military. The Talos Principle VR offers puzzle solving challenges. Experiencing Minecraft in VR was interesting as well. I've tried Dirt Rally VR with a seat, wheel and pedals etc, which again is a really fun experience. My relative purchased the tracking pads as well that he uses in apps like VR chat which is very popular.
But it's true what you say about don't buy 'low end VR' it can ruin the experience for someone and put them off VR altogether. Especially if they experience headaches and sickness, that a better setup would probably reduce significantly or even eliminate. My advice is for someone to patiently save up and look to buy decent setup, pre-owned if necessary. First a PC capable of running VR, then save up and get a decent VR system to run on it. It should give the person (along with family/friends) some great experiences for a while. This saves them buying a cheap setup, having problems and quickly regretting wasting the money they had.
6:23 there was a support extra piece for the glasses in the box
I had such high hopes for this. But in the end the lame graphics and nausea inducing motion was just too hard to get over! Beautiful video as always though ☺️
For the vr headset?
Ur english??
Dear Oculus, you gave the Quest, an amazing VR headset away like apples to the most under-rated/over-rated TH-camrs ever. Please give my mans a Quest. Hope this stupid first experience doesn’t put you off VR honestly grab a Quest for a good cordless or even corded first experience (Trust me, I’m prone to motion sickness but I love the quest and beat saber) or an Index for an amazing but expensive and crazy experience. Awesome video by the way though 😊
Seriously, Oculus needs to carpet bomb youtubers with gifted Quests to set the public straight on what actual VR is about. And Valve should also be precision sniping selected gaming and tech channels with free Indexes, to get some coverage for their end too. I half have the mind to go buy a Quest, and just spend my time in the city letting passers by try it out.
UnknownSquid you have no clue how many people I show at family events, social gatherings/parties and random people at school and university who see it and immediately go out and buy one the next day. My personal biggest enjoyment in life is others excitement and amazement to virtual reality. Totally agree with Valve not being on the ball.
First experience with VR, should never happen with a cheap ass china headset, also no roller coaster , racing games or fast paced games in general. I got motion sick easily in the beginning and now I can do 6 hours in one take without any problems at all as the human brain/ body adapts to it. its simply " getting used to it" ever since then I do VR on a daily basis and I totally love it. I own the Vive, the Index, and the Oculus Quest. For starters I would totally recommend the Quest, as it is a mobile stand alone solution but also features the possibility to connect it to your gaming PC for full pleged high quality VR Games from Steam or Oculus. The Oculus Go is nice and cheap, but it is missing the 6 directions of freedom and 2 proper controller which means you cannot move around but more likely just look around from one position which takes most of the fun out of VR. Also there is only one controller that comes with the GO which also isnt tracked in 3D. So again, the best option in my opinion is the Oculus Quest.
For the first month of vr I just played games where I didn't need to more around like beatsaber, superhot vr and using teleportation in vrchat, and getting a lil bit adapted step by step in Pavlov and vrchat, and it worked. Now I can jump off building and the such without feeling an inch of nausea
I really like the Quest Demos like Bogo, First Contact, First Steps. If i have people new to VR i starting from there.. but sometimes they just want the Rollercoaster 😆 first. The Quest was just a nobrainer for me, superb tracking, complete mobile 6DOF, great fun games, PC option with cheap cable, great dev support (like hand tracking), OLED 1440x1600. So if you wanna take a step further into PCVR you can just do it with the mobile Quest too to try Boneworks and other great stuff. If i look to value per dollar this is a clear winner over any cheap eastern stuff like this, because the Oculus Quest really creates a great VR experience which this ANTVR just ruins for yourself and others, would'nt even pay 1$ for it.
The reason that the resolution seems so poor despite the large number of pixels is that VR headsets distribute those pixels over a large viewing angle and then divide it between 2 images, one for each eye. Anything you're viewing at any given moment is zoomed in to a tiny portion of the display screen.
Exactly this resolution is first gen consumer HMDs and it's very low compared to the 1440x1600 of a Quest or a 2160x2160 of a Reverb. The shown HMD with 110° FOV (i guess diagonal) already needs far more pixels than a ordinary flat screen in front of you (17" or 21" for example) to get the same ppi (it's just like small window into the virtual world). But it also depends on the used panels like the PSVR demonstrated very well, despite the lower resolution 960x1080 per eye the colors are vivid, brightness is very good and the OLED RBG panel with 3 subpixels per pixel reduce the screendoor effect massively and you get very good immersion. I guess these panels did not a very good job if he compares it to 8-Bit 🙂.
Have you tried using a VirtualBoy emulator on this thing? Sounds like match made in hell to me!
I can't imagine how terrible that would be. 😥
some people just want to watch the world burn............
I own the Lenovo Explorer WMR headset and its way better than what I expected to be. Add on bought it used for 150 so am happy.
I invested in the (pre-cosmos) gen HTC Vive and I could not be more happy with it! There is a reason vr is expensive and if you are looking to get into this kind of gaming it is definitely not a place you want to cut-corners on spending. Worth every penny
Those are fresnel lenses. The Oculus Quest uses them, and while there is some light aberration, for the most part it's really good. So the problem isn't the fresnel lenses on your AntVR headset, it's likely that the manufacturers simply lied about the resolution of the dual LED screens.
Awesome video! Quick correction: the AntVR marketing is bullshit, it's not "9-axis" tracking, it's "3-axis" tracking (also known as 3DOF tracking, x,y,z rotational only)
"Real VR" headsets like the vive or quest have 6DOF tracking (x,y,z rotational and x,y,z positional)
I have the oculus quest and it is the best thing to ever happen to PC gaming since... forever. Seriously, I highly recommend that you pick up a Rift S or Quest right now.
edit: also the oculus go is more of a movie watching machine, it only has 3DOF tracking which is why it's so cheap - don't get it
I don’t get sea sick and I play VR for up to 6 houres at a time but listening to him play makes me actually feel sick
Still better than my vive focus
I would suggest a WMR headset for a reasonable budget VR experience. I have one and aside from controller tracking being irritating, it is actually a fair experience. However the Oculus Quest is probably the best idea for a budget headset. The Quest not only can be used as a standalone, but can also connect to a PC for gaming. Either would be worth a look for budget VR.
If your looking for a cheap headset with proper tracking get the Lenovo wmr headset
You can get a used oculus for like 200$
Angry Genie yes you can even fold up the display like on the (bad) Cosmos nice for glasses, which is an issue with the Cosmos btw because distance to the lenses seems to small
Angry Genie but if I look for most value for price and modern tech I woul go for the Quest today, it’s not an Index fidelity but far far superior to this crappy HMD presented here
Hah, the font on the front reminds me of the Atari Jaguar.
It really does. 😂
I was lucky and got to play around with VR back around 94 or so in like middle school. I mean the world was all cubes and the frame rate was likely under 20, but it was running on a 80486 class server array. Funny part was when "jumping" from the roof, the presenter offered to help get you down from the ledge safely if you wanted. I still to this day don't get that.
I'd LOVE to have a headset myself, but space is my problem.
I was under the impression that the Oculus Quest was really well priced and really worth it. Does everyone just want to skip to Black Mirror or something?
It is really well priced and totally worth it!
Here it isnt worth it. I aint giving 600$ for anything that will last probably 1 year
im sure my phone from 2013 with a gyro sensor is smoother in vr, but the screen is only 720p and vr headsets for phones arent the best
Yeah it may not be the best, but I'm sure it's better than this. 😅
Phone VR is still only 3DoF and not really actual VR in my opinion. It's just a 3D viewer. More like looking through a periscope into a virtual world, rather than actually feeling like you're IN that world and exist as part of it. Very very different thing, that the VR industry has utterly failed to market correctly, and done a lot of harm to itself over.
Dawid, just as a heads up, high motion games will make new VR users extremely prone to motion sickness so try something where your character is at a standstill first and try adjusting more and more to more motion intensive games
you have to try the rift s it will blow your mind!
how about compared it to official budget vr headset?
I bought an Oculus Rift a couple of years ago. I was nervous about the nausea, since even some 2D footage of choppy games makes me feel queasy. But VR doesn't have that effect on me.
That's because it's proper VR, not just an awkward 3D viewer. Half the claims about motion sickness come from people messing around with that atrocious phone based VR, and getting put on the stupid roller coaster app by their friends.
*Obviously it's blurry for both of you... you both took of your dang glasses*
With regards to the feeling sick etc, In my experience you can somewhat train yourself to become more tolerant to it in VR. When I first got my headset and played DCS, man I did one barrel roll and that was that, 5 mins of play time and I was ruined for the day. Nowadays I can spend literally hours on end in it with no adverse side affects. That said, I haven't had much luck with first-person, non teleporting games. They make me a bit nauseated still, but I don't spend enough time in them to build up any immunity. Dirt Rally and KartKraft are the only racing games I've experienced any discomfort in. Both could be settings related, but again, I haven't spent enough time in them. Project Cars 2 though, simply unreal. I strongly recommend you try that driving game in VR. I haven't yet experienced any of the ill feelings from Dirt Rally in Project Cars2. I'd be keen to know your experience.
love the videos keep up the great work
I honestly really want to see the oculus go vs this hedset
Like I’m really entertained
At this point it's a bad idea to get a new VR headset. You can go to the 2nd hand market where the prices are more reasonable, tho a little bit pricier than the option that you showed us in this video, but surely a way better experience.
I've got a Samsung VR (that one which you can put the phone on the headset) and compared to a normal VR headset for phones is a good option. Sure you will notice the pixels even if it's on 2K resolution, but the tracking it's very good, if you are a normal person you can last about 30 min to an hour without getting dizzy.
I'm not sold on VR gaming yet. It works really well for a minute or two but then it is like my other senses catch up and I get pulled out of the game, I end up finding the games less immersive than just playing on a monitor. What I am completely sold on is VR for media consumption.
Sitting down and watching a movie in the SKYBOX VR movie theatre is a great experience on my Gear VR. There are times that I've forgotten where I am and stand to go to the toilet only to walk straight into my desk. I can wear my glasses with it but they end up slipping down my nose, so I leave them off and adjust the focus on the headset.
VR could be the future of gaming but we're not there yet.
Just new to your channel. Love it. Different, interesting and funny. BIG thumbs up.
You should try a VR headset with full tracking.
The first "VR" set I ever tried was the VictorMaxx Virtual Reality Stuntmaster Headset from the early 90's. If you really want to see the worst ever, compare to that.
The oculus go is primarily for content consumption, it does not have many games. If I'm not mistaken oculus is abandoning the go soon and marking the quest as its replacement.
i started a couple of years back in vr with the samsung vr to use my samsung s6 edge and 2 years ago i bought the oculus rift and i love it
Congrats on 100k man, I remember when you had like 4K and that wasn’t long ago!
We need the higher end VR headset video! Honestly the quest 2 should be the candidate!
I have the Oculus Rift S, which is supposed to be one of the better VR headsets; however, it leaves a few things to be desired.
1. field of view could be larger, as it's like playing with goggles on, like night vision goggles without night vision and less comfortable than night vision goggles.
2. graphics quality is advertised as 1440p, but isn't as good as 1080p flat screen.
3. frame rate is half of whatever you're getting on a 1080p flat screen.
4. Why S?
5. it's made by Facebook, I guess the S stands for Social.
6. I can't think of anything else right now, but I'm confident I'll recall something soon as I use it again.
7. O.K. I used it again.... IPD adjustment is nonexistent, it has software IPD adjustment; however, it does absolutely nothing when you adjust it. Would it have killed Facebook to put a manual IPD adjustment on the Rift S? Did Facebook think users wouldn't notice the software IPD adjustment does nothing??? Maybe the S stands for Secret IPD adjustment method.
8. Facebook owes all Rift S buyers a free manual IPD adjustment upgrade. For $400 they should have included a voucher for an optometrist visit to get your IPD measured and a custom Rift S build to match your IPD.
9. You can see the concentric circles cut out in the Rift S also.
What is that chart about???
@@birdsplaybs1234 I've adjusted every thing that can be adjust in all possible combinations and the resolution is not better than my 1080p flat screen, it would be a huge improvement if it were. The IPD database is a flimsy excuse for a solution, it's like saying "We're not going to fix the issue so go suck it".
They should have put an adjustable IPD on the thing. No amount of litterateur is going to make the lack of one acceptable. If you don't demand better I guarantee you won't get it. So as long as there are people like Thomas defending bad design don't expect a better product.
@@birdsplaybs1234 No you don't get what you pay for. You pay too much and wish there was a better value available, but there isn't. The $4000 headset is better than the $400 headset but it's not a value. If people would demand better and send the just o.k. stuff back they would begin to see better products in the market at better prices.
Dawid: Vr is to expensive… shows oculus quest 1 for $400
Me: Bruh you spend like double that each video
When Dawid goes through the video: :)
When Dawid says bye bye: :|
WMR headsets are great for the cash... Mine was 180 and I'm still loving it
Works well enough that some of my friends bought them too after trying mine
I agree for a first experience but that’s as far as I’d say. I could not stomach Boneworks or even beat saber’s terrible tracking on a high end WMR Lenovo headset. The Quest however is more expensive well and truly but infinitely more better then Mixed Reality even with Oculus Link.
Bro...your going to have to change the channel name to Dawid does Dodgy🤣🤣
Hahaha!! That sounds pretty accurate. 😂
The fact you can experience VR for under $1,000 is pretty awesome, the prices are going to just keep going down. I would probably never buy a $100 one but should be able to get a decent quality experience for a couple hundred dollars. I've seen a few websites explaining how to use your phone and that smartphone holder that you got with a PC to get a VR experience on the cheap, you should try it out. I can't reach my headset in the closet, it's too far away so I haven't been able to try it out.
the way you talk about that head set make my phone seem like a better option back before i got an oculus lol
Finally haha ive been looking for this vr review but cant find any. Thanks
A got a like brand-new dell visor with all the packaging from CEX for £140 and a 2 year warranty pretty good deal
Gotta have a good pc, lots of room to set it up and as you mentioned the physical issues that accompany it. I guess they have the new stand alone thing that doesn't require a pc now, so it's improving.
Get a Samsung Odyssey+, they go on sale for $230 very often and they have OLED screens, higher than vive resolution, and works great. I have one and with a extra comfort strap for like $20 it’s perfect.
You should try the oculus rift s
I have an Oculus DK2... the resolution is way lower than your AntVR thing... However the head tracking on the Oculus DK2 is spot on, which makes it half decent.
I had some fun with it on Project Cars2 and Elite Dangerous... which is amazing with a good VR.
But the resolution is a killer, the gian pixels ruin the experience. But Bad Tracking, that's got to be so much worse. Bad tracking will make you sick.
diy solution : to increase the head tracking which that favors immersion (most important i think with the windows effect) is make your own head tracker with custom pseye ir , 3d printed delan clip ir and software solution like facetrack noir or opentrack.works on steam then it work perfectly with all vr set, it need some setting to reduce the latency to avoid sickness effect . more with 2 pseyes + psmove service you can have little room scale
By that point, price and money I’d rather of spent another $40 and got a brand new Mixed Reality headset to be honest or just saved another $100 and bit the bullet on a Rift S or Quest.
Me: clicks video
TH-cam: here take an oculus quest 2 ad
Me: youtube why u do this
The budget option is going on ebay and selecting one of the windows mixed reality VR sets, Like the Lenovo explorer. found 2X them for ~$100-120 for the complete set and work pretty good, amazing for the price.
I like watching flat screen gamers spend $1000+ on a curved ultra wide that gets like 75hz but pass up a $400 360 degrees infinite monitor generator that goes at 120hz and can also play the newest half life game, just the current generation of those people who got mad that graphics cards were becoming needed
Did you notice that they have a new model available? The "Transformer" which has actually camera tracking inside! ^^
9:41 the cat goes meow
Hey! Those circles on the lens are not caused by the machining process, it's just a Fresnel lens - please look for it on the internet, as YT doesn't allow links.
If you want to play VR on a budget, buy an Oculus Quest. No expensive PC needed (however, you can connect to a PC if you want) and you do have 6 DOF VR. It’s absolutely and without any doubt the best value for money in the whole VR scene. And the picture quality is better than a HTC Vive. Tracking works flawlessly and allthough it runs on a slightly older mobile chipset, the graphics are more than decent. The Oculus Go is (about to be) discontinued, so the 3DOF days are finally over.
Still twice the cost of this POS.
JG Ballard not if you include the cost of a VR Ready PC.
Dawid.....Buy a damn box cutter already! Ceramic knives don't appear to work well.
Haha!! The funny thing is I have a box cutter. 😅 I will use it next time.
I think the Oculus Go hooked to a PC is going to give you a way better experience. After all, just because that $122 headset says it runs at a specific resolution, doesn't mean it does. False specs on AliExpress listings are pretty common.
Yeah i would like to try VR, maybe a Rift S, the Index is too expensive.
Rift S is a fantastic headset. Index is meant for inthusiests so it is very expensive.
This video is so uncomfortable to watch. Every 15 seconds I'm just shaking my head and mouse around say "No no no". At least you've successfully warned people away from this cheap crap, but this is such a horrible misrepresentation of what real VR is. It's like saying, "I heard about this gaming stuff and got pretty excited, but PCs are expensive so I bought a tamogochi." It's genuinely that bad.
Ok, first up! 6DoF (Six degrees of freedom) is a VITAL feature for any gaming in VR. Do not even consider 3DoF headsets such as this, phone based VR, or the Oculus Go for gaming. They should be reserved solely for 360 degree/stereo video viewing and honestly aren't good for much else. They've harmed the image of VR more than anything else ever could. Even products from respectable brands like the Oculus Go, are NOT the same thing as a Rift or Vive and should not be confused for the such. They serve entirely different use cases.
Secondly, roomscale and motion controls are NOT gimmicks, they are where VR really shines and becomes something transformative. Seated "cockpit" experiences like driving or flying are also ideally suited for VR, so if that's someone's thing all the power to them, but anyone that only ever sits and holds an xbox controller whilst in VR is sorely missing out.
Thirdly, the majority of motion sickness comes from poor tracking, lack of 6DoF, lack of IPD adjustment, and sub-par displays. Opting for a budget fake VR set like this was the worst possible thing you could do. Many people who previously reported motion sickness on earlier headsets such as the Rift dev kits or messing with "phone VR", no longer suffer it on newer ones.
Fourth, you need your glasses inside VR to see correctly. The nature of the lenses simulates depth, and you will not be able to see clearly unless you do. Regardless of the screen technically being two inches away, that's not how your eyes see it. Fortunately most of the main brands of headset do offer enough space inside for glasses (My Vive and Index are plenty spacious and adjustable for zero glasses issues), though you may need to consider a slightly more compact pair without the flared horns on the frame.
On general budget headset selection, the cheapest viable option for true 6DoF VR on PC is the WMR (Windows Mixed Reality) headsets. They're not all perfect, but all are serviceable. The Lenovo Explorer is well rated and one of the cheapest if you can find it in stock anywhere, or alternatively the Samsung Odyssey+ offers premium quality from a trusted brand, for only a little more at $300, and is easily recommendable if on a budget. The main drawback of the WMR brand is they only have two cameras, so have a slightly limited frontal tracking range. Do not get anything cheaper than a WMR unless you know exactly what it is and understand the differences.
For more specifically gaming oriented headsets, you then have the Rift-S at $400, which sports three additional cameras for much wider tracking coverage, slightly more ideal for games with a greater range of movement. If you can snag a refurbished Vive for the same price, you can get Lighthouse based tracking for total 360 tracking without any blind spots, and near flawless tracking (a favourite trick of mine is throwing the controller to guests that are wearing the headset. They see it practically 1-to-1 as it is in reality, and nearly always catch it, much to their surprise).
And then you have the Quest, also at $400 but with a $500 option. The Quest is a fully standalone portable headset that doesn't require a PC, and unlike phone VR, is still the real deal. 6DoF, beyond roomscale, high resolution, great tracking, IPD adjustable, designed around proper motion controls. It trades graphical fidelity for allowing you to shed the tether. Alternatively you can still link it to a PC using certain USB cables, and thus play any PC-VR game, but at a very slightly impaired quality/latency compared to a dedicated PC-VR set.
Moving out of budget/midrange. Don't get the Vive Cosmos. Simply put it's a badly flawed headset and not worth it's cost. I'd hate to see you unwittingly move from this shameful abomination to that tragic mistake, by accident. ^ ^;
Vive-Pro is gradually getting cheaper and is an overall great headset, but is still rather over priced. Get only on a great deal or if you are looking to get into VR dancing and value the wireless.
Index is pricy and there's a Tesla style waiting list to enter if you want to own one, but is the all round best consumer viable headset on offer right now.
It's not the screen's distance from the eye, but the fact the game doesn't account for eye movement to change the image accordingly. it's something you can account for, but requires eye tracking and that's not common yet. Human eyes actually cross to meet at the object the brain wants to focus on, but no current game knows where each eye is looking, so it can't account for it. According to the freind who's DK2 I got to use, this takes a few days to get used to (I'm blind in an eye so I couldn't tell, lol)
Quite frankly... Just buy a headset used. CV1s are okay and they sell for Go prices. Also, The roomscale stuff does require a pretty large room. And you do have to be into immersion as a gamer to enjoy VR, and explicitly to enjoy Roomscale. I'm playing two different games right now, while commenting on TH-cam... Considering that I can buy certain types of 'dead' CV1s I might do so, and they'll even come with those controllers, I doubt I'll ever use them.
@@DFX2KX Hmm? Were you replying to the part where I was talking about still needing glasses? That aspect is nothing to do with accounting for eye movement or stereo focal depth. It's entirely the lens design and how it simulates roughly 2m of distance. If I remove my glasses and get close to my PCs monitor, it becomes clear again. If I hold up a VR lens (removed from a previous headset) to my monitor, it appears blurry unless I view it from up close with my glasses on again. It's simply how the lenses work.
Also I wouldn't say you _need_ a massive space to play room scale games necessarily. A friend of mine plays games like Blade&Sorcery, Gorn, Sairento, etc, in a floor space that is barely two foot wide, simply by leaning his knees against his bed and facing that way. He can safely flail his arms all around that bed, lean side to side, stand or crouch etc, without any issues. Obviously games like those are at their best if you're able to step, duck and dive all over the place, and really go ham, but it's entirely possible to still enjoy them just fine with more limited space.
In either case, you can easily see that David's room is waaaay more than big enough for Roomscale VR. Most VR owners would be utterly thrilled to get a space like that. I spend my weekends doing full body dancing in VR, with only a quarter of the space. David has no issues there whatsoever.
A Samsung Odyssey is probably the best entry-level headset when it is on sale for around 250
i got me a DELL Visor Mixed Reality Headset off ebay for £139 and i love it. way better than rift and apparently vive . best buy ever.
At my university, they let you rent out vr headsets. They have the quest and the go. I have used both. Honestly, I liked it for a bit but then I got bored fairly quickly. I just don't think the technology is ready yet. It needs to become cheaper and more accessible. It is a great thing to try but not to use everyday. It is kinda like roller coaster. Once and while it is great but I just couldn't see my self using it even once a week. Hopefully it matures in the future.
I really wish they had like the VR go but where you could hook it up to a computer. Like the specialized controllers are cool but very inconvenient. I think if they where to sell an option where it is just the headset and you can use your computer to run the VR and then you could use a standard gaming controller. VR would be more popular and just a better expereince.
You have to try the quest 2 sir, or a rift s since it's pc powered. I'm also a glasses wearer and that headset (rift s) isn't uncomfortable for me.
If you get sick, get a quest or rift s and play games without movement first like beat saber or superhot
i use the valve index it is amazing you should try it
i got my windows mixed reality headset for $120 about a year ago and its amazing it has room scale and very accurate headtracking
I think with 120hz displays becoming the norm on phones there is some scope for something like a gearvr with pc conictivaty. Ps love your top
i remember using the Google Cardboard, for 20 bucks was amazing! for the graphic part at least, i didn't had any way to control it
If anyone who has an Oculus Go headset, use ALVR app so that you can stream your computer to your headset.
Actually the Lenovo Explorer or the PSVR Headset are also good on PC
You should skip the Go and aim for a Quest instead. The Go is like.. Basically phone VR. The quest is a standalone real VR headset, and if you have a nice USB-C cable you can plug it into your PC and play games off of it as well.
VR and budget don’t really match, for pc games I’d basically have to say ONLY get valve index if you value the resolution. Because it already a high resolution but gives u the option to super sample the per eye resolution to 4k making the gaming experience A LOT better (provides you have the hardware to back up) if you want to use ur headset for videos or outside of ur pc the the oculus models are a good alternative
If you get sick from vr' you probably play less than 120fps. Stutters get me sick too' and I have no issues with vr on my valve index' and I play daily.
I too enjoy dirt rally, bought the lenovo VR mixed reality and tried to pipe it into the headseat via steam -- I made one lame effort and gave up b/c too busy. Please tell me what is the no brainer, no effort VR w/ dirt rally set up.
PCVR still has it's pitfalls but once you know a litte bit about it's no issue anymore. If you want super-easy real VR there is just the Oculus Quest, it has the easiest setup i'd ever seen, but no Dirt Rally because of the Snapdragon 835 it would be no fun for a simulation enthusiast who expects high fidelity graphics.
But maybe a PSVR with PS4 Pro could do the job for you. Once you have done the setup of the camera on your TV or where you put it on (front tracking) , the system works like a work horse without Steam and other stuff, just turn on and start Dirt Rally but one caveat is also the lower resolution and maybe power, even then PS4 Pro has much more power than a Quest it has no chance against a RTX2080 PC for example.
I had great fun with Dirt Rally on PSVR, but i'm not a simulation enthusiast, but the immersion was just wow! After that flat games, especially driving are simply boring 🙂. It's like you feeling every turn, bump and slope and you can simply drive better in VR.
Why did they put a long cable on it if you can't walk around in it? It's like they didn't plan anything.