Daley is a cool ass dude. Him cracking that smile when he knows what he's about to say is about to piss someone off is hilarious 😅 from what daley has done with Kenny and deji he's gotta be one of the best coaches out of any of the influencers
Daley and Leon talk with experience about boxing. If they both trained JJ, I think JJ might have a chance against Jake. Not saying JJ’s current team are bad, but when I see them teach JJ I kinda see the team turning him into a athletic.
jj's current team is more inclined towards mma type stuff and not purely boxing . jj needs a good boxing coach , maybe get with daley and do one camp with daley
@@Hashirx11nah man it’s too late Imo it seems shootfighters lean into JJs crazy ass non fundamental style which I feel is the polar opposite of what Daley teaches. It’s too late to change Ksi in one camp.
@@Octaphea not for tommy , but he can do it before jake. He can embrace is wild style but he needs to tighten up on his boxing fundamentals as well . I do feel worried for jj because he does get hit back a lot even in front of novices like temper and other opponents he faced
@@Hashirx11 nah bro that’s the thing it took a while for deji and Daley to work. You don’t just randomly walk in like that. It also took 2 years with for kenny to look how he did against nunes. Again JJ does not have good fundamentals. Look at even gib who’s been training 5+ years consistently, he doesn’t have as good fundamentals as even Jarvis or Kenny, (ofc he’s still got other great attributes and shot selection, power, cardio etc) but if Gib came to daley, you just won’t automatically see a slick fundamentally sound gib, cos they aren’t naturally athletic, it’ll take them much longer. Shootfighters are confirming to JJs weird as style. I think it could be much better but that’s what he’s comfortable in. Daley imo would completely change him and you can’t do that going into his biggest fight ever. Hence Jake changing coaches and going for an easier opponent instead of Ksi or Tommy rematch
@@WinterMan. he’s a bum and no one likes him or his dead event, he’ll never be on dazn, his last event was meant to be for charity but not a single penny was donated coz they made a loss
Ksi's awakward style may be difficult for jake to navigate but jake has fought awkward fighters before such as Gib, so it could end up similarly to ksi
Tbh I think Ksi wins only because JJ style is so awkward so you can’t train and prepare for it, also jake hasn’t been tested apart from Tommy fury and he lost nearly every round
The know that in a fight its about styles and they never seen Jake deal with someone on the front foot the whole fight that is near his level, gib (at that point) and Nate Robinson don’t count brother. I think it’s logical to think it’s close I don’t think they were scared. Especially Leon that mf says anything even to his own fighter.
Jake has superior understanding of the sweet science, but JJ has purposely made his style awkward so he can’t be replicated in sparring in the hopes that his opponents literally can’t prepare for him. I think JJ causes Jake a lot of problems, but we’ve also seen that JJ can go down when hit in the right spot, we haven’t seen that with Jake yet and he’s fought some high level guys
The only time KSI went down is when Logan hit him in the back of the head. Bro, you know KSI has this new awkward style. And it makes his defense much weaker because of his hand positioning and constant movement. But we see him balancing that out by improving his speed and durability. His main approach is to walk into range and knock out the other person and he can eat major shots to do so.
I don’t really like how they just assume KSI has more dawg in him than Jake. We’ve seen Jake go into late rounds and hold his own against real legit fighters. We’ve seen how Jake responds in those moments. KSI has fought a bunch of trashcans so far and hasn’t had to dig deep in a fight yet. You could argue the Logan fight, but those were only 5 rounds. Until proven otherwise you have to give the advantage in that area to Jake.
No, it's not a close fight at all. Jake has a better resume, better fundamentals, better technique, and lands more cleanly. Only things I'd say KSI may have over him are cardio, reflexes, and maybe footwork. The best chance KSI had was back when Jake beat Gib.
Daley is right and I said this for a long time if you were to combine Deji and KSI into one person, like Dragonball Z since JJ loves those references, they would be the perfect influencer boxer.
Facts, deji is really atarting to fine tune his boxing fundamentals and starting to look like a clean boxer and not just a fighter. I honestly think if it wasn’t the stigma of his brother, and they weren’t related. Deji beats ksi.
@@Purplehogg I don't know about that. Deji is obviously better technically, that's clear, but like Leon said no one in this space has more fight than JJ. And though Deji has improved a lot he has yet to have to deal with anyone's pressure or power really. Both of which are KSI's strongest attributes other than his cardio but that's what makes his pressure and power so hard to deal with because he carries both into every single round.
Feel like a topic is missing in a match between ksi and Jake, and that’s how well Jake is at counter punching when someone is trying to close the distance. Main argument I saw here is pretty much that if ksi gets inside and makes it a fight with his awkward style, it’s over. And I agree. But I think it would be over for ksi. Jake is great and throwing counter combos when being rushed by a blitz. We saw it with Nate Robinson everytime he tried blitzing to get close. Doesn’t matter he couldn’t really box it’s the practice of what Jake has to do when someone is rushing inside. Even the knockdown against tommy was when tommy was trying a punch to get closer inside and Jake timed the counter jab perfectly. We’ve seen ksi hurt. We’ve never seen Jake hurt and his level of opposition has been far greater than ksi. Woodley alone wrecks everyone ksi has fought to date except maybe Logan. Let alone Anderson Silva. Daley mentions that you give ksi dejis skill and he’s a problem, I think you give Jake gibs body shot and inside fighting and he would destroy ksi by the third round. Just my analysis. Jake can scrap too. Not just ksi. Ksi is the type to say he’s prepared to die in the ring in the extent of him refusing to lose but jake seems more prepared to kill in that ring. Ksi lack of technique is his downfall
Well the thing you gotta point about Jake's counters is that he telegraphs it. You can tell when he's about to throw that overhand, looking down at the ground too.
@@xcrete4647 KSI has quite visibly identified Jake's signature punch since the Ben Askren fight, and he's very active with his footwork on the outside, and his head movement on the distance being closed, so he'd be able to dance circles around if Jake's flat-footed and not even looking at the shots he's throwing
What Nate did was not "blitzing" - he was running into Jake's punches with arm punches and no guard, making the force at which Jake threw and the speed at which Nate came rushing in, an impact that much worse. Mind you, Jake at this point wasn't landing flush when he was being pushed on the backfoot and swinging with his head down, only getting caught up in clinches and getting a few KDs over a debut Nate Robinson who never sparred in camp, Jake landed the KO when he actually cut the ring off against Nate in offense, (beginners typically experience fight or flight in this circumstance), making Nate want to clinch, all Jake had to do was make Nate reach for it instead of allowing it, and time the overhand right against some sloppy movement. That last part follows KSI's exact mindset, except dying is no option to accept first and therefore its kill or be killed. He understands the stakes and carries the promise/importance of his legacy on his shoulders THROUGHOUT, not doing it for "prize money" like Jake does.
@darreal2197 why I gonna watch a even who went bank rupt he doing good on these small events he not ready for misfits🤣🤣🤣🤣 he doesn't even punch stop talk clown
@darreal2197 it depends if kenny beats gib. If he can beat someone way more experienced then yes train with Daley but if he loses then he doesn't need daley
Actually love this vid Dejis trainer and wade You guys should Collab n do a real talk on influencers boxing match with Vidal too The only three guys I've heard tell the truth so far 😂
I see tommy fury having a better chance ko ksi and not the other way around. ksi does so many other activites, he has an mma coach, imo he needs also a boxing coach to learn the fundamentals, cuz his defense is lacking so much. Ksi only chance is to hurt tommy bad, but we have never seen him get hurt even in jake fight. I hate to say it, but he is setting himself for failure.
I'd have to go Jake tbh. Jake even tho poor, has much better boxing fundamentals and knowledge then KSI. Jake has shown the one thing he can do is counter when put under pressure. He did it with Gibs constant pressure, Nate Robinson sprinting at him, Tyron Woodley after Woodley rocked him (remember after it he cracked him W a right as soon as Tyron started closing distance) and he did it many times against Anderson when Anderson started closing distance. The one thing Jake's good at is creating space to counter and countering with power. Honestly I could see Jake maybe jabbing him for a while, throwing some combos whilst KSI has a guard up. I could see KSI after that blitzing Jake and maybe catching Jake off guard a couple times. But as soon as Jake reads KSIs feints and movements (bc tbh they not hard to read) I think by that point it's done. KSI would need to get it done within 2 rounds to have any shot at all tbh because I just see Jake reading him and timing him easily
We have seen Jake gone 8 3 minute rounds, KSI hasn’t come close to that because of the level of competition he has faced. How can you make a comparison without knowing? 😂
@@twistyfishythat was years ago, his new style literally requires him to bounce on his feet for entire round ofc he has better cardio, we haven’t seen anything impressive since bc none of his fights have gone to the final bell.
What cardio? Just cause he has fought literally nobody that can fight back and lasted 2 rounds because opponents are to easy doesn't mean he has good cardio.
We know Jake has a chin so ksi would have to work hardddd for a knockout and ksi has a decent chin has been tested much but he’s been hurt befire so then you go to who’s a better boxer and it’s Jake by far offensively and defensively so that’s why I say Jake
Tldr, Jakes a better boxer, fought better guys, has more experience and will probably win but jj has heart and enough power to where he has a chance if he can survive long enough to land a big shot.
@@therealhb1763 agreed but just to help JJ set up his shots to use his power I can’t see his current trainers doing it enough as they are kick-boxing coaches so the use of punches are so different to normal boxing
Anyone else get annoyed when wade talks over people. For a while in this he wasn't letting anyone finish a statement. No cap. No hate either. Something he should work on
It would funny asf if Jake and Nate did a swimming race to Alcatraz for a press conference/open workout as a side bet. I only say this because of the swimming open workout Jake did vs Woodley.
To me I got Jake and ksi jaw hasn’t been tested but he did get hurt from Logan’s upp it but it was a perfect uppercut but also sparring partner came out and said ksi power is a little more then jakes but that Jake can take a punch at full power and eat it and that he hits ksi with some shots that Jake would eat
@@grevengriff8609 nah he just doesn’t do anything which is stupid imo he simply doesn’t care if he gets hit he just cares about landing his shots. This is why ksi might lose but jakes power was exposed when tommy kept eating his shots like it was nothing. I think jake v ksi is a true 50/50 and the guy who wants it more the night of the fight will win
Im calling it, Nate will quit half way through. If i was Tommy i'd be so fucking happy that these influencers are wanting to fight literally free money if he takes it seriously. I agree with Leon with KSI having heart like no other compared to the influencers + Tommy.
Nate will probably quit. In his recent UFC fights at some point he looks like he doesn’t wanna be there anymore. Starts walking away from his opponent. That’s in a sport he’s very comfortable in, he won’t have any answers to Jake and if he thinks he’s losing will probably shoot for a take down or leave the ring.
@@UsykWillBeatFuryViaEzDecision Bro did you watch the Ferguson fight? He got hit and then walked away shaking his head. No fighter just up and walks away to “draw them out”. That’s not what that looks like. Maybe I’m giving Nate too much credit though, I could be wrong and he might be genuinely THAT stupid.
Without watching this I will put my opinion on the KSIvTommy fight, Ksi is so weird when he fights and that is why he will be a tougher opponent for Tommy, Jake is the better boxer but Tommy has fought better than him and that’s why Jake is easier, Ksi is something different, unpredictable and weird
Daily doesn't rate KSI because he just doesn't see him as a boxer or how a boxer is supposed to be...but I think that is the exact reason why ksi will win againt both
I see what ur saying but u have only saw jjs style against ppl who r shit or scared of him no one who will counter or put it on him. We don’t even know what ksi is like fighting off the Backfoot
It's true he hasn't been challenged yet but his power plays a big factor for that ppl are scared bcoz they don't wanna engage once they get hit...but regardless KSI is a smart man he never half-asses anything he understands what he needs to do to best Tommy or Jake and he knows it's not gonna be easy...so I just have faith in him that's all
Wade I get it’s annoying that Tommy is being thrust into this scene, but I think it was disrespectful of you to make fun of the way he celebrated the Jake win. He was alone fighting for his own credibility in front of the whole world, the relief he felt afterwards is only natural
If a pro boxer is “relieved” to win a fight against Jake Paul, the TH-camr turned boxer, AFTER claiming that he wants to fight for the world championship, he doesn’t paint a very good image as a “professional championship level” boxer now, does he?
@@deec.9575the world champ thing is bs, tommy just says that for his image, being born as a fury he’s had to do that his whole life. That’s why I sympathize with him for the Jake win cause he was essentially fighting for his own identity.
Untill ksi shows improvement technically or any defence at all then i still think jake beats ksi fairly easy. Against gib jake showed what he does to someone coming forward too much with bad technique, he will counter punch and time it
@@ocbmega1011the fact that JJ is so telegraphed when it comes to setting up punches. Think about it in Nate Robinson terms. All you need is someone to time you coming in, in which KSI has been caught numerous times with. If Temper and Swarmz who are complete tomato cans were able to counter KSI, this is bread and butter for Jake or anyone with a boxing IQ. KSI isn’t dangerous, he just hasn’t fought anyone worthy of an opponent to expose those flaws. Daley said it best, that technique is only going to get you so far, or with people who don’t know what they are doing in the ring.
KSI and Mams are gonna freak out and start firing people that don't work for them, after watching/hearing about this... LMAO they all were a just real enough in this video
We still have not seen JJ have a solid boxing match with a good match up, until that happens its all just speculation with some if, buts and maybes thrown in.
In my opinion ksi or jake nvr beats tommy fury but jake vs ksi will be decided within 2 rounds and it's if ksi can set the pace but have better defense to not just let himself run onto a shot it's ksi fights but if jake can get ksi to run into a shot then not get into a dog fight not tryna hunt for a 50/50 exchange the same it's Jake's fight
What is that Kingpyn host talking about? Jake fought Woodley and Askren who were wrestlers. Of course their striking wasn't going to translate. The one striker that Jake fought in Anderson Silva, showed that he was the more technical boxer but lost due to losing some athleticism at his age (also potentially due to lack of hunger, underestimating Jake, etc).
What I like about Leon, Daley and Wade is that they keep it real and back up their opinion with no emotions just facts but at the same time keeping it interesting.
@Fquh Jake stopped being entertaining for me after he terrorized his neighbors after that he just seemed like a piece of shit oh wait no it was when he tried to frame Faze Banks for women abuse no no or was it the scams...lying about being bullied when he was the bully...the rioting...the Joe Weller thing you know I can't really remember when he stopped being entertaining for me
@@TheHardcoreCasualist but it’s okay for KSI to make sexual jokes to girls to make them feel uncomfortable for entertainment or try to destroy a Wades career based on fake allegations. Double standards don’t apply to you, don’t they?
@@PMraz So.... jokes from so many years ago when you could say pretty much anything makes a whole guy now? And even though he was quick to clear everything up with Wade when he realized he messed up? Im confused what point your trying to make here where as Jake has proved time and time again recently and if we want to go your way, many years back that he is an asshole
funny how jake is favor and will try to come 10lbs above JJ fight night, thats simply cheating but its the industry standard no wonder boxing as been falling off for years
wade cuts people off way too much 💀 he needs to seriously work on that. he has great takes but he cant let someone else speak for more than a minute without input/interjecting
love the chemistry here. its a perfect balance of personalities between the four chaps
Perfect balance of riding jake??????????
@@_viresh_they're offering their opinions as coaches and commentators, grow up
@@benmathew8741Imagine trying to have a logical conversation with a KSI stan.
@@_viresh_ LSI fan boy
@@_viresh_grown ass beta you
"You tell JJ he need's a holiday he turned it into a song" Hahaha jokes on the fly.
I love how Leon is very supportive of JJ and openly expresses how his friendship keeps his loyalty with him
Exactly I'm glad he didn't switch up when training Gib, him and JJ were family during the Logan camp
Yh. Shame that JJ didn’t stay true like Leon
@@KailiLive what is this supposed to mean?
@leytonwalker1190 oh, I know nothing about that. Even if he is, isn't it just the competitive spirit?
@@hitagisenjougahara4677salty ksi fanboy reported my comment. Go sing holiday u fanboy 😂😂
Daley is a cool ass dude. Him cracking that smile when he knows what he's about to say is about to piss someone off is hilarious 😅 from what daley has done with Kenny and deji he's gotta be one of the best coaches out of any of the influencers
Pretty sure he cracked a smile cause he said "put bits of deji in him" lol
Daley and Leon talk with experience about boxing. If they both trained JJ, I think JJ might have a chance against Jake. Not saying JJ’s current team are bad, but when I see them teach JJ I kinda see the team turning him into a athletic.
jj's current team is more inclined towards mma type stuff and not purely boxing . jj needs a good boxing coach , maybe get with daley and do one camp with daley
@@Hashirx11nah man it’s too late Imo it seems shootfighters lean into JJs crazy ass non fundamental style which I feel is the polar opposite of what Daley teaches. It’s too late to change Ksi in one camp.
@@Octaphea not for tommy , but he can do it before jake. He can embrace is wild style but he needs to tighten up on his boxing fundamentals as well . I do feel worried for jj because he does get hit back a lot even in front of novices like temper and other opponents he faced
@@Hashirx11 nah bro that’s the thing it took a while for deji and Daley to work. You don’t just randomly walk in like that. It also took 2 years with for kenny to look how he did against nunes. Again JJ does not have good fundamentals. Look at even gib who’s been training 5+ years consistently, he doesn’t have as good fundamentals as even Jarvis or Kenny, (ofc he’s still got other great attributes and shot selection, power, cardio etc) but if Gib came to daley, you just won’t automatically see a slick fundamentally sound gib, cos they aren’t naturally athletic, it’ll take them much longer. Shootfighters are confirming to JJs weird as style. I think it could be much better but that’s what he’s comfortable in. Daley imo would completely change him and you can’t do that going into his biggest fight ever. Hence Jake changing coaches and going for an easier opponent instead of Ksi or Tommy rematch
You can polish a Turd for hours, but it's still a Turd.
These are the videos I love from Wade wades making big moves out here
@YuldsAltmy guy. You’re getting banned. Enough with the spam. You can’t do that here.
damn nice, didnt expect them to talk about other fights
It’s cause they’re under DAZN now, basically all influencers fight under DAZN now, Jake Paul, Misfits and Kingpyn
@@Razorjaw86 idubzz on the phone to dazn rn lol
@@WinterMan. he’s a bum and no one likes him or his dead event, he’ll never be on dazn, his last event was meant to be for charity but not a single penny was donated coz they made a loss
These are awesome man they always get the best people to sit down. Need more of these
Ksi's awakward style may be difficult for jake to navigate but jake has fought awkward fighters before such as Gib, so it could end up similarly to ksi
don't use gib as an example 😂 that fight isn't proper to be used as a reference
Stupid comparison
@@dinanga_revert I mean ksi's hype now is similar to gibs hype before he fought Jake, so u never know how things could turn up
@@dinanga_revert so what? Ksi has any fight to use as reference? What has he done?
KSI's style is confusing, Gib's style used to be bad and easy to knockdown.
Crazy how they were all scared to (aside from Wade) say Jake wins that fight😂
Tbh I think Ksi wins only because JJ style is so awkward so you can’t train and prepare for it, also jake hasn’t been tested apart from Tommy fury and he lost nearly every round
The know that in a fight its about styles and they never seen Jake deal with someone on the front foot the whole fight that is near his level, gib (at that point) and Nate Robinson don’t count brother. I think it’s logical to think it’s close I don’t think they were scared. Especially Leon that mf says anything even to his own fighter.
@@julianjay9640 Anderson Silva, and Woodley 1&2 were pretty good tests. Unlike Founier, Temper, Swarms, Pineda, etc.
@@lolcow6668don't say that they don't like the truth. Ksi has beat 2 pro fighter in their eyes
I highly doubt they were scared to say who would win, especially Leon and Daley (idk the other guy)
Jake has superior understanding of the sweet science, but JJ has purposely made his style awkward so he can’t be replicated in sparring in the hopes that his opponents literally can’t prepare for him. I think JJ causes Jake a lot of problems, but we’ve also seen that JJ can go down when hit in the right spot, we haven’t seen that with Jake yet and he’s fought some high level guys
The only time KSI went down is when Logan hit him in the back of the head. Bro, you know KSI has this new awkward style. And it makes his defense much weaker because of his hand positioning and constant movement. But we see him balancing that out by improving his speed and durability. His main approach is to walk into range and knock out the other person and he can eat major shots to do so.
@YuldsAltomg noooo not again i clicked on one of these last week and nothing happened 😱😱😱😱😱
“purposely” HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
JJ got dropped by Logan who is 6'3 and over 200 pound heavyweight! Most guys that Jake fought were older smaller guys
May also add when jj fought Logan he had a ruptured Eardrum just to add some perspective
I don’t really like how they just assume KSI has more dawg in him than Jake. We’ve seen Jake go into late rounds and hold his own against real legit fighters. We’ve seen how Jake responds in those moments. KSI has fought a bunch of trashcans so far and hasn’t had to dig deep in a fight yet. You could argue the Logan fight, but those were only 5 rounds. Until proven otherwise you have to give the advantage in that area to Jake.
Ksi deff has that dawg in him
@@EA-hz9mgpause????
No, it's not a close fight at all. Jake has a better resume, better fundamentals, better technique, and lands more cleanly. Only things I'd say KSI may have over him are cardio, reflexes, and maybe footwork. The best chance KSI had was back when Jake beat Gib.
How could jake beat a black man it doesn't make sense racist 🤣🤣🤣 white ppl will fall to thr ground after 1 punch look at what swarms did
yet jake is the one ducking lol
@@mrb1051facts
Jj has power over jake
@@mrb1051 yet jake been chasing the ksi fight for years.
That kingpin presenter is actually really good
Daley is right and I said this for a long time if you were to combine Deji and KSI into one person, like Dragonball Z since JJ loves those references, they would be the perfect influencer boxer.
Facts, deji is really atarting to fine tune his boxing fundamentals and starting to look like a clean boxer and not just a fighter. I honestly think if it wasn’t the stigma of his brother, and they weren’t related. Deji beats ksi.
@@Purplehogg I don't know about that. Deji is obviously better technically, that's clear, but like Leon said no one in this space has more fight than JJ. And though Deji has improved a lot he has yet to have to deal with anyone's pressure or power really. Both of which are KSI's strongest attributes other than his cardio but that's what makes his pressure and power so hard to deal with because he carries both into every single round.
@@Purplehogg woah you think deji's chin will take his brothers right hand?
@@winstonsanderz3136 KSI himself has said before if Deji worked hard he could beat him
@@zebkai2890 doesn't mean anything when Deji says JJ hit him in sparring barely trying and he saw a white light.
Great debate wade. Can't wait to see you in action again. You smashed it this weekend.
U love how wade rides jake 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@_viresh_ayooo what
@@_viresh_called being unbiased goofy
@_viresh_ one ugly dude 🤣
Again, JJ is an underdog, good. Will be even better scenario when he wins.
Feel like a topic is missing in a match between ksi and Jake, and that’s how well Jake is at counter punching when someone is trying to close the distance. Main argument I saw here is pretty much that if ksi gets inside and makes it a fight with his awkward style, it’s over. And I agree. But I think it would be over for ksi. Jake is great and throwing counter combos when being rushed by a blitz. We saw it with Nate Robinson everytime he tried blitzing to get close. Doesn’t matter he couldn’t really box it’s the practice of what Jake has to do when someone is rushing inside. Even the knockdown against tommy was when tommy was trying a punch to get closer inside and Jake timed the counter jab perfectly. We’ve seen ksi hurt. We’ve never seen Jake hurt and his level of opposition has been far greater than ksi. Woodley alone wrecks everyone ksi has fought to date except maybe Logan. Let alone Anderson Silva. Daley mentions that you give ksi dejis skill and he’s a problem, I think you give Jake gibs body shot and inside fighting and he would destroy ksi by the third round. Just my analysis. Jake can scrap too. Not just ksi. Ksi is the type to say he’s prepared to die in the ring in the extent of him refusing to lose but jake seems more prepared to kill in that ring. Ksi lack of technique is his downfall
Facts💯 Ksi fan boys are going to be hurt by this one
Well the thing you gotta point about Jake's counters is that he telegraphs it. You can tell when he's about to throw that overhand, looking down at the ground too.
@@Austin123.ksi isn’t skilled enough to see that, he’s gonna throw haymakers and wake up on the canvas 😂
@@xcrete4647 KSI has quite visibly identified Jake's signature punch since the Ben Askren fight, and he's very active with his footwork on the outside, and his head movement on the distance being closed, so he'd be able to dance circles around if Jake's flat-footed and not even looking at the shots he's throwing
What Nate did was not "blitzing" - he was running into Jake's punches with arm punches and no guard, making the force at which Jake threw and the speed at which Nate came rushing in, an impact that much worse. Mind you, Jake at this point wasn't landing flush when he was being pushed on the backfoot and swinging with his head down, only getting caught up in clinches and getting a few KDs over a debut Nate Robinson who never sparred in camp, Jake landed the KO when he actually cut the ring off against Nate in offense, (beginners typically experience fight or flight in this circumstance), making Nate want to clinch, all Jake had to do was make Nate reach for it instead of allowing it, and time the overhand right against some sloppy movement. That last part follows KSI's exact mindset, except dying is no option to accept first and therefore its kill or be killed. He understands the stakes and carries the promise/importance of his legacy on his shoulders THROUGHOUT, not doing it for "prize money" like Jake does.
The only way ksi beats jake Paul is by swinging non stop and hoping, if he tries to outbox him ksi will get knocked out like tyron woodley
KSI gonna be looking for those Elbows.
😂😂😂😂 you don't know anything about boxing 🤦🏾♂️
@@iloveeatingpoo7694how? KSI‘s best chance is via KO, outboxing Jake aint something KSI will do.
I ain't taking my time on this
@@iloveeatingpoo7694ksi isn't a good boxer lul
this has to be a new series please
Yoo Daley needs to show up more shit he says is on point he don’t give a fuck who is up in that room he’s gon lay the facts out and that be that
8:50 - 9:35
This part made me love Daley more. Complete facts
Yo Wade was taking shots at Tommy this whole vid 😂😂😂
The hate runs deep. He can’t stand it that Tommy is baking these “influencers” that keep calling him out. 🤡
Its really a 50/50 fight theres no clear answer, but jjs heart is something special
I love these Kingpin debates
Wade going savage mode on tommy im crying 10:30 holds it up more then he's baby is wild af lolllll
"Guy held it up more than he holds his baby" LMAO
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If JJ loses to Tommy I’d like to see Daley train him for the jake fight, he could learn loads
Delay,???? Didn't be train that guy from beta who does even punch 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@_viresh_did u not see Kenny’s recent fight???
@darreal2197 why I gonna watch a even who went bank rupt he doing good on these small events he not ready for misfits🤣🤣🤣🤣 he doesn't even punch stop talk clown
@@_viresh_😂😂
@darreal2197 it depends if kenny beats gib. If he can beat someone way more experienced then yes train with Daley but if he loses then he doesn't need daley
Bring me back when JJ wins !!
Ksi wakes up in the hospital: what happened ?
@@grevengriff8609let’s come back to this when ksi wins
I don’t even like jake but as of now, i just can’t see ksi standing a chance
the skill gap is not wide enough for there to be no chance
Honestly I don't see it having a gap anymore
"u told him he needs a holiday and he made a song" lmao made me cackle
Wade's jabs at Tommy 😂😂😂😂
Man these debate shows are so good. You are the life and soul of this scene Wade, even if you are an outsider ;)
Keep doing more debate Wade
He debated that riding jake is his lifeline🤣🤣🤣🤣
"guy holds it up more than his baby" 😂 i love wade bro
Yeah Tommy's ending KSI.
I love these debate videos man. 🥊💪
Did they debate how wade rides jake???
"Have fun in MVP
Wade
Leon
Dailey"
andy wiggling his toes around under the table don't think we didn't see that
Disappointed in announcement. I thought it was going to be REBOUND SEX 2
wade is such an unlikable person lol
Jj should change gym join deji with daly and Leon think it would unlock a different fighter
Actually love this vid
Dejis trainer and wade
You guys should Collab n do a real talk on influencers boxing match with Vidal too
The only three guys I've heard tell the truth so far 😂
why are they laughing at Tommy, he would box the head off Nate, JJ and Jake again, just truth
I definitely think ksi's style causes jake problems
no Jake sleeps him before KSI can even land a hit.
@@STORMBLAZE34 brushing you're teeth with it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@iloveeatingpoo7694 real funny
@@iloveeatingpoo7694I know the truth hurts lil buddy
I love the vibe of this man
I see tommy fury having a better chance ko ksi and not the other way around. ksi does so many other activites, he has an mma coach, imo he needs also a boxing coach to learn the fundamentals, cuz his defense is lacking so much. Ksi only chance is to hurt tommy bad, but we have never seen him get hurt even in jake fight. I hate to say it, but he is setting himself for failure.
I'd have to go Jake tbh. Jake even tho poor, has much better boxing fundamentals and knowledge then KSI. Jake has shown the one thing he can do is counter when put under pressure. He did it with Gibs constant pressure, Nate Robinson sprinting at him, Tyron Woodley after Woodley rocked him (remember after it he cracked him W a right as soon as Tyron started closing distance) and he did it many times against Anderson when Anderson started closing distance. The one thing Jake's good at is creating space to counter and countering with power. Honestly I could see Jake maybe jabbing him for a while, throwing some combos whilst KSI has a guard up. I could see KSI after that blitzing Jake and maybe catching Jake off guard a couple times. But as soon as Jake reads KSIs feints and movements (bc tbh they not hard to read) I think by that point it's done. KSI would need to get it done within 2 rounds to have any shot at all tbh because I just see Jake reading him and timing him easily
KSI's cardio is his weapon in that fight if Jake gets tired later on its KSI's fight to win in my opinion.
How does ksi have better cardio? He was gassed in 6 rounds against Logan and haven’t seen anything since
We have seen Jake gone 8 3 minute rounds, KSI hasn’t come close to that because of the level of competition he has faced. How can you make a comparison without knowing? 😂
@@twistyfishythat was years ago, his new style literally requires him to bounce on his feet for entire round ofc he has better cardio, we haven’t seen anything impressive since bc none of his fights have gone to the final bell.
What cardio? Just cause he has fought literally nobody that can fight back and lasted 2 rounds because opponents are to easy doesn't mean he has good cardio.
We’ve seen jake go 8 rounds, not ksi, cardio is definitely not a issue
We know Jake has a chin so ksi would have to work hardddd for a knockout and ksi has a decent chin has been tested much but he’s been hurt befire so then you go to who’s a better boxer and it’s Jake by far offensively and defensively so that’s why I say Jake
I can agree that if KSI doesnt have enough power to hurt and damage Tommy or Jake it would barely be a 50/50 fight
Tldr, Jakes a better boxer, fought better guys, has more experience and will probably win but jj has heart and enough power to where he has a chance if he can survive long enough to land a big shot.
I agree with this did think jake was disappointing against Tommy that being said
The REAL small council
Is it just me that wants JJ to train with Daley after the Tommy fight ready for the jake fight
Bro anny good trainer doesn't mean it clicks
@@therealhb1763 agreed but just to help JJ set up his shots to use his power I can’t see his current trainers doing it enough as they are kick-boxing coaches so the use of punches are so different to normal boxing
Love how they called out the fans for being sensitive nobodys
Anyone else get annoyed when wade talks over people. For a while in this he wasn't letting anyone finish a statement. No cap. No hate either. Something he should work on
10:30 Wade…Jake cried right after boxing Ben, in the ring. 🤡
😂😂😂😂 true
He cried cuz one of the guys in his camp died and he dedicated it to him you bozo
He doesn’t want to talk about that though 😅🤡
@@calebtennison9353because of the death of his bodyguard ya delusional digbat
you're so delusional
It would funny asf if Jake and Nate did a swimming race to Alcatraz for a press conference/open workout as a side bet. I only say this because of the swimming open workout Jake did vs Woodley.
If this happens, I want commission lol.
To me I got Jake and ksi jaw hasn’t been tested but he did get hurt from Logan’s upp it but it was a perfect uppercut but also sparring partner came out and said ksi power is a little more then jakes but that Jake can take a punch at full power and eat it and that he hits ksi with some shots that Jake would eat
Jake when he gets hit he just moves straight back which will give ksi a huge advantage
@@inspiregaiaand when ksi gets hit probably he gets wobbly
@@grevengriff8609 nah he just doesn’t do anything which is stupid imo he simply doesn’t care if he gets hit he just cares about landing his shots. This is why ksi might lose but jakes power was exposed when tommy kept eating his shots like it was nothing. I think jake v ksi is a true 50/50 and the guy who wants it more the night of the fight will win
Im calling it, Nate will quit half way through. If i was Tommy i'd be so fucking happy that these influencers are wanting to fight literally free money if he takes it seriously. I agree with Leon with KSI having heart like no other compared to the influencers + Tommy.
🤣 I’m seeing the same
You clearly don’t know who nate diaz is if you just said he would quit😂😂😂😂he’s the last person to quit mate
Nate never quits bro. If you saw his ufc fights this guy fights till the last breath
Nate will probably quit. In his recent UFC fights at some point he looks like he doesn’t wanna be there anymore. Starts walking away from his opponent. That’s in a sport he’s very comfortable in, he won’t have any answers to Jake and if he thinks he’s losing will probably shoot for a take down or leave the ring.
@@UsykWillBeatFuryViaEzDecision Bro did you watch the Ferguson fight? He got hit and then walked away shaking his head. No fighter just up and walks away to “draw them out”. That’s not what that looks like.
Maybe I’m giving Nate too much credit though, I could be wrong and he might be genuinely THAT stupid.
Bro we need more daley on the debate
with how easily jake bleeds, i feel like if jj is able to cut jake or smth then he'll defo go for broke
😂😂😂
Wtf
Most logical KSI fan argument
Jake only bled before surgery and after that was an elbow to the forehead by Woodley
@@grevengriff8609 deji?
Hahahaha guy holds it up more than he holds his baby 😂😂😂😂
Wade straight savage bro love it xxx
Without watching this I will put my opinion on the KSIvTommy fight, Ksi is so weird when he fights and that is why he will be a tougher opponent for Tommy, Jake is the better boxer but Tommy has fought better than him and that’s why Jake is easier, Ksi is something different, unpredictable and weird
Daily doesn't rate KSI because he just doesn't see him as a boxer or how a boxer is supposed to be...but I think that is the exact reason why ksi will win againt both
You are a fool. Daley is simply being honest, JJ is a bad boxer.
I see what ur saying but u have only saw jjs style against ppl who r shit or scared of him no one who will counter or put it on him. We don’t even know what ksi is like fighting off the Backfoot
It's true he hasn't been challenged yet but his power plays a big factor for that ppl are scared bcoz they don't wanna engage once they get hit...but regardless KSI is a smart man he never half-asses anything he understands what he needs to do to best Tommy or Jake and he knows it's not gonna be easy...so I just have faith in him that's all
My exact prediction is Jake knocking out ksi in the 3rd
Wade I get it’s annoying that Tommy is being thrust into this scene, but I think it was disrespectful of you to make fun of the way he celebrated the Jake win.
He was alone fighting for his own credibility in front of the whole world, the relief he felt afterwards is only natural
If a pro boxer is “relieved” to win a fight against Jake Paul, the TH-camr turned boxer, AFTER claiming that he wants to fight for the world championship, he doesn’t paint a very good image as a “professional championship level” boxer now, does he?
@@deec.9575the world champ thing is bs, tommy just says that for his image, being born as a fury he’s had to do that his whole life.
That’s why I sympathize with him for the Jake win cause he was essentially fighting for his own identity.
@@deec.9575i would be relieved too if the entire world was clowning him for 2 straight years and saying shit like he would lose to Jake Paul
@@Shadoken_I still wouldn’t care. The hell would I care if the world said an 8 year old would beat me, me beating that child nothing.
@@deec.9575well jake wanted to fight for the championship too and he got clapped saying he wants to fight mcgregor etc
Untill ksi shows improvement technically or any defence at all then i still think jake beats ksi fairly easy. Against gib jake showed what he does to someone coming forward too much with bad technique, he will counter punch and time it
Fairly easy is just wrong jake may beat ksi but it will not be easy
Where is the easy coming from?
@@ocbmega1011the fact that JJ is so telegraphed when it comes to setting up punches. Think about it in Nate Robinson terms. All you need is someone to time you coming in, in which KSI has been caught numerous times with. If Temper and Swarmz who are complete tomato cans were able to counter KSI, this is bread and butter for Jake or anyone with a boxing IQ. KSI isn’t dangerous, he just hasn’t fought anyone worthy of an opponent to expose those flaws. Daley said it best, that technique is only going to get you so far, or with people who don’t know what they are doing in the ring.
@@raph.j.r6788ksi has shown no defence or technique. If that keeps up it will be fairly easy maybe after an initial flurry from ksi
KSI and Jake are basically the same size and also KSI has decent experience with an awkward style, Jake will struggle to figure him out
Dejis coach seems to be the only one being honest
KSI and Mams are gonna freak out and start firing people that don't work for them, after watching/hearing about this... LMAO they all were a just real enough in this video
I understand the pick but you have got to think about JJ hitting Jake. What does Jake do?
nothing hes been hit before
he's been hit ksi hasn't
We still have not seen JJ have a solid boxing match with a good match up, until that happens its all just speculation with some if, buts and maybes thrown in.
i think yes
Listen until they both sign the contract I don't even care anymore about that fight
Love you Wade, but Paulie is from Bensonhurst in Brooklyn, not Queens.
Ksi just would get dropped period no argue like bro Jake can take punches and JJ gets hit alot
Money on jj for both these fights
Wade loves the sound of his own voice constantly interrupting it gets annoying 🫠😳👎
How Joe gonna say ksi didn’t have much power.. my guy he had you stumbling the whole fight
Would have loved to hear more from Daley less interrupting from Wade
Dailey should train ksi bro made deji an iq boxer
In my opinion ksi or jake nvr beats tommy fury but jake vs ksi will be decided within 2 rounds and it's if ksi can set the pace but have better defense to not just let himself run onto a shot it's ksi fights but if jake can get ksi to run into a shot then not get into a dog fight not tryna hunt for a 50/50 exchange the same it's Jake's fight
Jake can’t beat Tommy. He got steamrolled by his jab the entire night and every time he got hit by it, it would reset everything he did.
All the TH-camrs at about the same level
Should do a reaction to pro boxing
Wade vs. Tommy?
Dead joke
lmaooo tommy fury is m bison 😂
So if jj loses to tommy then he should get a confidence fight like jake did with nate
It makes sense
Lol
KSI will be an old man before he agrees to fight Jake, he knows Jake is too good.
Jake is the one ducking mate 😂
@@shivamsunny3024jake is ducking now but for 2 years ksi did
Wade by TKO
What is that Kingpyn host talking about?
Jake fought Woodley and Askren who were wrestlers. Of course their striking wasn't going to translate.
The one striker that Jake fought in Anderson Silva, showed that he was the more technical boxer but lost due to losing some athleticism at his age (also potentially due to lack of hunger, underestimating Jake, etc).
Then there’s Nate Diaz waterboy that is slapping up the top influencer boxers XD
viddal vs tommy, jake vs ksi then winners and losers face eachother
What I like about Leon, Daley and Wade is that they keep it real and back up their opinion with no emotions just facts but at the same time keeping it interesting.
Amazing video ❤
Jj may need different coaches
The fact that Jake can call Tommy son and somehow convince people he's humbled from that fight is astounding
Its entertainment you taking it too seriously
@Fquh Jake stopped being entertaining for me after he terrorized his neighbors after that he just seemed like a piece of shit oh wait no it was when he tried to frame Faze Banks for women abuse no no or was it the scams...lying about being bullied when he was the bully...the rioting...the Joe Weller thing you know I can't really remember when he stopped being entertaining for me
@@TheHardcoreCasualist but it’s okay for KSI to make sexual jokes to girls to make them feel uncomfortable for entertainment or try to destroy a Wades career based on fake allegations. Double standards don’t apply to you, don’t they?
@@PMraz So.... jokes from so many years ago when you could say pretty much anything makes a whole guy now? And even though he was quick to clear everything up with Wade when he realized he messed up? Im confused what point your trying to make here where as Jake has proved time and time again recently and if we want to go your way, many years back that he is an asshole
@@BlissifiedHH Jake did the same years ago, I swear logic is something hard for KSI fans
common JJ prove them wrong
I think JJ vs Jake is actually a close fight. Idk who wins tbh, and i just want to see the fight and get it over with
Agreed
funny how jake is favor and will try to come 10lbs above JJ fight night, thats simply cheating but its the industry standard no wonder boxing as been falling off for years
wade cuts people off way too much 💀
he needs to seriously work on that. he has great takes but he cant let someone else speak for more than a minute without input/interjecting
10:39 Lmao daley