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3:57 "being healthy is the most beautiful thing" well said! 💯
That video of Wendy always breaks my heart. Winee telling it like it is 😤 a violation of human rights!
the idol union idea at the end is a good one. Basic human rights need to be protected!
It’s really good that they did a video like this. Hopefully things can start to change at some point. It starts with awareness
Domt buy the music or follow any of the groups. However... people dont care and look anyway.
@@gladlawson61 just separating ourselves from kpop doesn’t do enough. exposure to other cultures and fans from other countries actually helps neutralize some of their extreme views.
nah its been 2 decades of this, don't hold your breath cause your wallets are doing all the talking
@@RecoveringChristian lol you have no idea what I spend my money on. but regardless, your logic doesn’t actually hold up. all cha he starts with awareness. you can’t act like you’re for change but just want to sit, do nothing, and leave them to continue this cycle. I’d rather bring attention to these issues, hold companies accountable, and express that this isn’t normal within the brainwashed culture
@@GutsyKags We've been hearing "it all starts with awarness" for years and years and years. It doesn't make sense for their business model and corporate interests. Their braziness as recounted by these "products" is evidence. The money/time/energy to scout, invest, and develop these draconian pop acts is rewarded by the current system and their targeted markets. The clicks, engagement, and content consumed and products sold only cements their bottom line. It's alot of performative outrage that quickly gets swept under the rug with the next big shiney sparkly distraction. "Hopefully things can *start* to change at *some* point." Pretty much says it all. Rinse and repeat.
Omg she’s so right. The idol industry definitely needs a Union
In my preteen years I got really into K-pop and they would often talk about losing weight so I would look up what they ate and it was essentially nothing, so I took that and put that in my daily life. All through out middle school and high school I didn’t eat breakfast or lunch. Even tho I wasn’t that into K-pop anymore I always remember their diet plan and kept that in my mind. Even now I unintentionally starve myself when I think I’m too big, my stomach is still messed up and I often have stomach pains. It’s just really sad these girls are still being treated so poorly because it messes with your health in the long run. There really needs to be a union or law stating they can’t force them to starve
I’m happy this was addressed, but the girls didn’t mention WHY these things even happen. If the general korean public stopped supporting companies who do this to idols then there wouldn’t be a market for anorexic idols. This also brings up the conversation around underage idols debuting who are still growing and forcing them to diet will have so many ramifications on their development. It’s gonna take people in numbers to make a real change!
It more like the companies starve them to satisfy the general Korean public. The overall beauty image has to be changed first I think.
I'll continue to support my favorite groups
@@reggielacey2235 I think groups that are already in existence have 7+ year contracts so supporting them would help them get out of debt with their companies. I think the easiest way to boycott anorexic idols would be to boycott new groups debuting especially if they’re children!
Disagree slightly, as I dont think this can be solved from the consumer side through boycotting. Really there should be some sort of regulatory body or union preventing companies from treating their workers this way and legal mechanisms to punish these companies and the executives if they break these rules.
And above that there should be a broader and more open discussion in Korean media about beauty standards and expectations placed on young girls and women.
@@Taylor-gq4yc then you would also be directly hurting the idols themselves as well, while i don't know how or where they get their talents from, I'm sure many of the kids who end up becoming a idol will have said that their dreams was to be one in the first place, what needs to happen is that a new idol company must be made AND do it humanely (like getting a licensed dietitian to help the idols get a good and healthy diet), that would hopefully drag in a lot of new talents and when the talents themselves start praising the company's healthy standards ONLY THEN the other companies will follow suit, the problem with this is that a new company needs to be made while also not conforming to Koreas standard which is near impossible only because if it was this easy to solve then it would've happen already (i myself dont know why this havent happened already, i'll assume its due to how Koreas traditions are/is but idrk since that is based on gut feelings.).
(i honestly wish i was rich enough to do it myself since i find ventures like these interesting however im a poor mf so i cant.... sadge.)
(edit; or also getting an idol union/workers union is a really good idea)
If the people don't stand up and demand humane treatment for these girls they will continue to be mistreated. A problem is if these girls gain even the slightest weight the fans say they have gotten fat. The managers and agents will continue to act on the fans stupid remarks.
its the same in the west except if a fat person decides to lose weight theyll get attacked by their fans for being fatphobic. Adele, Rebel wilson, and Lizzo have all gotten hate when they started exercising
@@Pyramanager exactly
@@Pyramanager Yeah but those 3 are legit obese and it's not something that should be promoted. Incredibly unhealthy.
You can't compare it to Korean idols who are forced to stay at 50kg. It's like one extreme VS another.
But nothing tastes as good as feeling thin ~ E. Honda.
@@RecoveringChristian that's a lie
I live in the US and I wasn’t surprised or shocked at all by any of the stories probably because I’ve done things similar at some point in my life. Their aversions made me realize how bad it actually is. I’ve had anorexia and a binge eating disorder. I honestly can’t imagine life without worrying about food. Society has really messed us up. I can’t imagine my mental state if I was in a company that fed into all of this. I don’t think I would be alive.
ive had the same disorders as you, and i found the body neutrality movement really healing for me - focusing not on what my body looks like but what it allows me to experience. my arms may not be as small as [insert person here], but they allow me to hug my loved ones and cuddle my cat, and that's so much more important than the way they look. it takes concerted effort to change your mindset, but it's so worth it - i started with just reminding myself of what my body does for me when i found myself thinking negatively about it, and it eventually becomes subconscious affirmation. you've got so much to offer to the world, don't let the nasty little gremlin that is an eating disorder stop u from enjoying life
Chacha Calling for an Idol Union is the best thing I have seen or heard all month
Thanks Ladies for the video :)
I'm new to the channel, so I don't know anyones name yet (I'm sorry), but the girl with the hat is 100% spot on: it isn't about weight at a certain point with idols. it's about control, and willingness to be controlled, even if it means self abuse. the company only wants to debut those they can control, so they force unachievable standards on these kids to see who will go the furthest to try to attain them, even though it's impossible.
they only debut those that are willing to sacrifice their lives for fame - these girls are killing themselves, but that's what the company wants. only those that are willing to die when told to do so by the company are considered viable product. those that debut as idols generally are not the most talented, or the prettiest, or the most interesting - those that debut are the most desperate, the most sad, who will do whatever they're told to do no matter how absurd, will endure any type of abuse quietly and are the most submissive. those people are the best products.
imagine being told to drive yourself to the brink of death by a stranger, and then *actually doing it* - even if it means crying every night, fainting, donating blood to lose weight... most people would never be so desperate/easy to control. most people would just choose a healthy career and live a happy life. you have to be especially vunerable and have little self worth to be so willing to abuse yourself to the brink of death just because a company said so, especially considering the fact that the "reward" (debut) the company offers for this blind submission is also pretty awful. actually being an idol is not very nice after debut much of the time - it's physically and emotionally exhausting, with 24/7 work that you cannot refuse (literally 4 hours sleep for months on end), no social life so you never make friends or have fun, dating is disallowed so you spend your youth forever alone, you're being paid almost nothing in some cases (or at least a tiny amount compared to American stars) and you're constantly being abused by both managers and obsessed strangers on the internet. these kids are willing to abuse themselves, and be used and abused by others, at the command of a company who intends to miserably use up their young lives to make money, until the contract expires. anyone who would wish for that kind of life is very misguided and vunerable. it's incredibly sad.
this is very well said!!
"you have to be especially vunerable and have little self worth to be so willing to abuse yourself to the brink of death just because a company said so" -- the way i see it, a big part of the equation is how the companies pick young kids and groom them into becoming these vulnerable people. over time they make them rely on managers who control their lives and they think they can't live without them (which is why picking a poor trainee is perfect to control since they're desperate for money) its literally textbook abuse
"those that debut are the most desperate, the most sad, who will do whatever they're told to do" - wow i never thought of it like that, that's so true. So rarely is there an idol who speaks against the societal norms, especially at a young age, they might be more likely to do so after many years following debut or after they're famous like Taeyeon in the video
It absolutely makes me angry how "fans" would criticize an idol once they gain weight calling them "overweight" or "fat" when they don't even look close to it. When I gained weight due to my medication change (big side effects was that you could easily gain weight even if your diet didn't change), my family kept calling me "fat" and making fun of me. I was absolutely depressed and now Imagine hundreds or even thousands of people saying that, since you're in the public eye all the time. Idk if it's just "asian" culture in general where being thin is the ultimate goal, but society in general really needs to stop it. Especially since these weight gains aren't even unhealthy in the first place!
and it's not just the agency's alone; fans play a huge part in this. the reason these agency's are looking out for their idols weight is because they want to give the fans what they want, which is for all idols to be slim and pretty. honestly, these shitty standards people have is disgusting.
Red velet is known to have a manager to who hovers over them about their weight. Their is a video compilation of them always looking at their manager for approval to eat. Wendy does it the most. He would always stop her from eating. It got so bad during a show he told her it was ok to eat. Idk if that person is still their manager or not. I've seen so many vids of idols passing out. The scariest one i saw was a male idol coughing/throwing up a ton of blood during rehersals for a concert they took him off stage cleaned him up and make him go back out. I'm like that's not normal he has to see a doctor the amount of blood that came out of his mouth. It was like a bucketful that came out of him. These extreme diets aren't diets these are eating disorders and mental disorders that lead to them having these diets. They should get proper help about diets and health etc.
"Being healthy is the most beautiful thing" ❤️ and being 50kg is 110 lbs, I was that small in middle school!
I've heard of the 50kg ideal before and a woman shouldn't be forced to be the size of a minor.
110 is dreadfully underweight and if they're going for figure, it's much better for them eat normally and then do low impact or toning exercises
@@FlyingWalrus 110 is not underweight unless youre like over 5'7" feet tall. 110 is already past average weight for most asians as they are short. All the girls in my family are around 100 and they are not sticks, they got a little belly. Just because western ideas think fat is beautiful doesnt mean fat is "average or healthy.
@@Pyramanager Underweight/overweight in this context refers to a healthy weight relative to your age, height and gender, not being visually heavy or skinny though. I mean, I'm asian, under 5'7", weigh over 110 and am not overweight, but you're correct that height is a very important factor.
@@Pyramanager exactly. I’m 5’1 and that is around average weight for people with my height
@@FlyingWalrus I think for western body types 110 would definitely be underweight. I am 5'8 and have always been tall so 110 looks almost morbidly skinny on my body type.
I go to the gym so I do agree that exercise will give most idols the figures they want without starvation. You really can build your glutes and grow your hip abductors/aductors if you're looking for more curves!
i actually preferred wendy when she was a little thicker. i actually prefer most idols when they’re not super skinny, though. that being said, if they’re happy with how they look then that’s all that matters. the pain and suffering they go through is tough since everyone’s got an opinion, so i hope at the very least that they’re happy with how they look at the end of the day.
An idol union is actually a great idea. Maybe like a dedicated organization with a set of lawyers that the idols can anonymously report their situations to & get help from.
I know we're laughing because of how crazy it is but this is really unhealthy and these people can develop severe heart problems and many other health issues.. not to mention the mental problems all the stress can cause smh what happened to everything moderation
I didn’t laugh once.
It’s just so disgusting how girl idols are treated.
On the plus side , when JYP found out about Momo’s situation he fired all staff and trainers who made her do that.
@@powbobs i'm sooo glad he did, where did you hear about that tho?
@@Ki-lv8iy yeah I wanna know too, that's such a well known story and I've never heard any action by JYP wow
@@powbobs do you have a source for that? because, as much as i would love to believe that's true, even years after that incident, JYP was on public tv recommending underage trainees to go on one-meal-a-day diets to lose weight quickly
@@armyonce6962
I don’t remember where I read it.
While one meal a day isn’t healthy it’s far from what the trainers made Momo do.
i honestly love the idea of an idol union
My sister developed an eating disorder when we were in high school because she was being bullied and called fat. Even when she was losing weight people kept joking that she was fat. She eventually became healthier after university but decades later she has a permanent bald spot, chronic gastric ulcers, trouble getting pregnant. Having disordered eating even when you are young will still affect you many years later.
Wendy is one of the idols whose weight drastically fluctuates. Its really noticeable when shes on diet.
Theyre so well spoken. love them sm
In my household we live in we never really had a schedule to eat, we always just have cookies or cereal for breakfast and don’t have lunch and sometimes we have dinner on the rare occasion, and we eat snacks in between all that, whenever I saw movies I thought it was weird how they always had three main meals, and they all sat in a table as a family, due to that I am a very malnourished an anemic 14 year old girl I am skinnier than most people my age and height. I wish I could have better eating habits but idk how too, i’ve never experienced that, I want to live a long life.
please try and eat! it will be difficult living in a family that doesn't have meals together, but you can start watching cooking TH-cam videos and experimenting with new recipes. Learn how to cook nutritious meals for yourself! You're super young so just try your best, see whatever is in your fridge and cupboards and try and make healthy meals for yourself. Also try and have set mealtimes, and maybe encourage your family to join you in eating at the specific times.
Good luck girl, just know you don't have to follow your familys eating habits exactly, do whatevers healthy for u xxx
try to get ready made meals and learn to cook with stuff in your house, start with basics like sandwiches and pasta, or eggs
They made it seem like it is just a girl group issue when even male idols are expected to follow these extreme diets. This is a K-pop and society issue. If the expectations wasn’t there the companies would not be pushing this.
I agree it’s an issue for both, but male groups are allowed to gain muscle. For ggs, they try to break down their muscle otherwise they’re criticized for being big. It’s more severe for ggs, especially considering that women are supposed to have more fatty tissue than men.
50 kg is insane to think about because i remember when i first got into kpop the standard was beign 47kg which is around 100 lbs and some idols like Ailee and some actresses even who weight over that were considered overweight. which like 52 kg is like 116lbs which is healthy for some heights but other heights should weigh more than that if you're taller than like 5'2, 5'3 you should weigh more than 120 definitely i don't know the exact healthy weights for every height only my own. However even within those healthy weights it should fluctuate because not everyone's body takes in nutrients the same way. I have struggle with my weight however I have never done extreme dieting i might go on a small diet or exercise more but i never try to limit the amount of food I eat. Normally the less food you eat the harder it becomes to maintain weight unless you're eating no food because your body starts taking in a lot more due to how stressed it is from not having the proper amount of nutrients so you tend to gain more weight when you eat so little then eat something big. they should really have a healthy balance and have time for exercise.
I love you ladies, eat, be healthy, enjoy life, be happy. you are beautiful and kind people.
Love the videos....Keep up the good work.....❤ from the UK 💯
Winee!!! She is so on point this video!
I would like them to react to the majority of K-netz who criticize idols who are "thin", getting "fat" or just generally finding anything on Idols and hate them for it
What would a full korean's take on this matter that sometimes it leads to the idol/actress/actor committing suicide
I cry when I see this😭
...Honestly, the idol union thing seems like an interesting idea. They're so right though that these trainees are being manipulated and used by their companies.
Awareness on this matter is great. However, as much as blaming the company, let us also look at the other side of the industry which are the consumers. This has become such a norm that a slight weight gain would not only put the idols on bad position in the company but also be unjustifiably put on fire by the public. The public is just as much guilty of putting pressure on weight problems for idols.
Not just Wendy, but Joy went through a rough time too. Not only with the company but with Netizens. The Netizens are the worst.
And Yeri
You ppl in the comments need to STOP taking off accountability from these companies. Yes, public and weird fan demands exist. But, at the end of the day, it's the company themselves that enforce these rules DIRECTLY upon the idols.
They're the ones who enforce the idols to do unhealthy diet. They're the ones who enforce managers to fixate and nitpick on the idols eating habits. They're the ones that have the legal power to enforce these rules towards the idols and even threaten the idols to either not debut, be on hiatus, and/or fired if they couldn't meet their harsh criteria.
While it's true that the public perception affects the case as well, but it's definitely not as direct as these companies' rules and actions. It's too hard to control the nasty public opinion, bc weirdos will always exist, especially behind anonymity. In contrast, the push should be towards the government to limit what these agencies could do towards their idols, in regards to their personal diet plan and also other stuff, and towards the formation of the idol union (like what Chacha said) to help them battle these power-tripping agencies. That would be the concrete move to do.
Unless government interferes with regulations for female idol dietary management or civil organizations raise their voice for violating basic human rights , there is nothing to change in K pop industry. The reason is there is no legal regulation about how dietary lifestyle has to be managed according to the science and basic human rights...
It isn't the companies, they only do what the public wants and pays to watch.
It is you, the public and fans who demand these idols look a certain way, that is who is to blame.
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The companies play a huge role in it though. In the Wendy clip, the managers are micromanaging them to make sure they look a certain way. They could easily say no and try to create a different idea of beauty but they voluntarily feed into it instead.
Momo being afraid she'll never wake up tomorrow because she's been starving for days is truly shocking.
a very important conversation
where i'm from, the way people lose weight is by exercising
i'm also in a country where appearance is quite important, but people here just go to the gym
it seems that korea has a fairly spread habit of not eating in order to lose weight, when, in reality, if you wanna lose weight, you need to exercise a lot, and for that you need to eat well
this is a problem pretty much everywhere extreme diets are all the rage in the west unfortunately. hollywood has some of the craziest out there.
While the management are at fault more fault lies with the fans that harass the idols if they don't fit their personal ideal .
The fact that over 50kg is considered overweight is so alarming. I’m South Asian, so fairly short even though I’m living in the West. I’ve always had a fast metabolism and some health conditions that make retaining weight hard, and exercising for me too, which usually helps drive up my appetite and build muscle. I recently dropped to about 45kg and the response from my doctors was “You need to gain weight.” Albeit, when the nurse asked if I’d changed my habits I said no, and explained why I couldn’t keep weight on and she still said “you’re lucky,” even though she had been talking about the health risks a moment before. But still, the attitude was so different: I had friends asking if I was okay because I didn’t look well. My Dad has a similar issue and was recommending me the high-calorie snacks he likes and what helps him remember to eat. Obviously eating disorders and the romanticisation of underweight bodies exists worldwide but it feels like things might be getting a tiny bit better where I live- seeing this extreme is just so scary. I really didn’t feel well at that weight- I was weak, I looked in the mirror and saw someone who wasn’t well. I hope it doesn’t come off as mean, but I wonder if some celebrities would look that way too without a whole team of stylists to disguise thinner hair or sunken cheeks or dull eyes.
Just watching that made me hungry.
That’s why when people say how amazing Jimin looked in the BST MV I wanna cringe cause he literally almost passed out on the set cause he hadn’t been eating properly. Even now, he says he’s “comfortable” at 50kg (which is insanely small for a guy of his height), but at least he looks and seems healthy/happy with it. 🥺
I wish they’d all gain muscle 😢
7:38 "idol union" 😂
Idol Union yessssss
i hope things in the sk music industry change, their idols get treated so badly, specially women when it comes to their weight. its abuse and inhumane. it’s disgusting that health seems to be such a concern yet the idols are forced to starve which creates health issues in the future. it makes no sense.
Wonyoung is a perfect example im sad no one mentioned her because she’s beautiful but scarily thin she shouldn’t be an idol she needs help
She even talked about wanting children in the future but it seems her frame and BMI are to low so she can’t even be able to
At this point she must have lost her period
dang this is unbelivable!!!!
Rationalisation of diet and lifestyle is urgently needed. I dont think age is a problem as long as they are able to do other activities study,outdoor etc to find more interests, adults should not underestimate kids abilities.
Focus on building muscles and strong bones, lungs heart and brain.
My sister literally almost get in critical condition due to this extreme diet. She don't eat regularly and have a pills she takes. Till some time we noticed that she's getting too thin and becoming more pale. My parents really get mad at her cause she is really not fat, she got normal body that don't need any diet. They told her to throw away those pills and bring back her eating habits. Good thing she's ok now.
This is what the world has come to. Young girls who adore their idols wanna look just like them so they partake in dangerous eating habits too to look as thin as them.
food is my hapiness. cant imagine gone through those shitthy process
These poor women keep their bodies in a state of starvation perpetually, that when they do eat they retain everything cause their body needs the calories. Best to just be consistent, moderate, and healthy.
많은 kpop 아이돌들이 너무 많은 체중 감량을 겪어야 하기 때문에 이것은 매우 슬픈 일입니다 😭 (그들이 이미 너무 말랐음에도 불구하고)
I've never understood why idols don't just burn the calories they eat by running or something instead of starving themselves. That's what i do. Maybe theyre scared they'll put on muscle or something.
Yes that’s it basically, muscle isn’t what they want a lot of the time, they want a “””feminine””” body which in beauty standards is low low fat but also not much muscle.
They run and burn calories by exercising but also eat less and to maintain muscle you need a proper food routine.
That and maybe extremely short unhealthy timeframes
Meanwhile Hwasa eating her way to happiness.
The world has created such unattainable expectations of beauty. And for a society like Korea that has elevated looks above all else, the extent to which people will go to look "beautiful" is shocking! Sadly it's viewed as normal.
I have always been against most diets. Just eat balanced meals at reasonable portions. Don't eat until you feel stuffed, stop when you feel comfortable. Increase your activity levels and then your body will naturally become its ideal size unless you have a medical condition making it extra difficult. If you have that, don't stress, talk to your doctor and ask them to help you do it safely. Happy and healthy is the most important thing and more beautiful than starving
The company is harsh and strict but ironically when idols gain weight, it's the fans that are quick to comment and hate when they gain. Companies try to avoid this by ensuring the girls have a certain weight. If the fans didn't complain it wouldn't be so serious
0:43 coudnt agree more lmao
@5:30 no because it really is a violation of human rights, the korean government needs to regulate the idol industry WAAY more
Idk how k pop idols have so much strength and dance even on these diets, meanwhile my fatass faints and feels letargic if i dont eat for half a day 💀
Sandara Park (2NE1) said at YG she would use a YG car service to get around town and do lunch. One time when she at lunch she got text reporting on who she talked to and what she ate for lunch. The YG manager screwed up by copying her on his report to YG. She stopped using the YG car service!! Also she looks the same today as she did in 2012!!! She is a very tiny lady and beautiful.
Omw I had no idea it was that extreme. I’m praying things have changed because yeah that’s violating human rights
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These companies need to realize that if they want skinny idols or hour glass idols they need to loose weigh/keep them from eating just exercise parts of the body .
Like I my dad is constantly telling me this and although I am still not listening because I fast until 2pm every day and exercise and I am constantly stressing over my weight when I really just care about the shape of my body. Every time I look in the mirror and I think "god i really need to lose weight.... looks like I'm fasting longer than 2pm" and sometimes I'll go all day w/o eating if my mom doesn't cook dinner. she tries to get me to eat at least an orange but when she says she isn't cooking my mind automatically says "no thanks, I'd rather not." because i am so scared of being a binge eater again.
I know its not healthy but I can't help it. and I was close to loosing weight and getting to my goal but my friend came over and she is constantly hungry, and constantly asking me if I am, when are we going to eat etc and im to ashamed to tell her that I don't want to, that over the weekend I managed to gain about 7lbs and its making me feel like I look fatter... idk if its body dysmorphia or what but I hate my chest because I am a d cup (forcing myself into a c) i hate my thighs because they're thick and I hate my arms and stomach the most. my mother tries to say "oh i wish i had your body" because i'm curvier than her but I wish I had hers (shes really skinny)
And that's how you create disordered eating and eating disorders.... I feel so bad... I mean when I was young I wanted to lose weight and be skinny too, but now that I started to work on my body image and working out seriously, I understand how much eating is important... you have to eat everyday, each meal, snacks etc.. you need energy so live, that's how the body works.. stop giving you body the fuel its needs, it will stop working... and the woman( or people who menstruate) body is so fluctuating because of hormones... you can take few kimos in just a day because of that. And for most of women (people who menstruate) being under a certain percentage of body fat is really unhealthy and can cause problems with periods, like that said in the video... I mean idol are like athletes in a way, do you see athletes eating only an ice cube in a week ?? I love kpop but I'm do pissed at how it is behind the scenes, it such a toxic environment for the people in it and a bad exemple for the people watching ... I feel so pissed and so bad
Lol yes they definitely need an idol union
The worst part is that they gear these girls looks to older men not the teenagers they are. They want them looking younger then they really are, won’t let them develop like they should naturally or even emotionally. It happens here in America also a certain Company famous for their Mouse has destroyed more kids than any one really knows and after they’re to old to draw in a certain crowd they get tossed aside and most end up on drugs and or dead trying to hide from the pain. Even our Olympic Gymnasts Women’s Team has girls that have suffered injuries, abuse and other serious mental health issues cause of the body issues put on them
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I wouldnt be surprised if the majority of Idols have an eating disorder...
I don't understand how these idol factories are even legal....
The one who are always concern to idols are always a non fans. I have Korean fans who is not into KPOP. She once said to me why idols always looks soo thin. And I said to her that those are Korean standard. And she replied with. Which part? Yes Korean standard is looks thin. But healthy. My friend also do diet. But she also eat like me. Any food and go to gym. So actually they got the thin gene I think. Her body just can't getting fat. When I told her about idol diet. She replied with... Their company is crazy... Girl with more than 170 cm not supposed to get
Why are those companies allowed to exist with such rampant abuses? It's insane to me. 😭
bp jisoo also force to diet she mention it on her vlog. .😕
The best thing to do if you want to be skinny and eat like a normal person is ironically to build muscle. Muscle is more compact than fat and burns calories passively and 50kg muscular looks skinnier than 40kg fat
They worry too much about weight
@@icingcake it’s sad because with muscle, you can look skinny, while being heavy
@@EganCraft 💯 agree
Как же у меня горит. Компании настолько бесчеловечные, что у меня нет цензурных слов, чтобы описать всё моё негодование! Когда это мракобесие уже отменят, все эти безумные контракты и фэтшейминг со всех сторон?
Before watching this video I though all the Korean people support these diets, but I was wrong. At least they don't agree with the idea of making extreme diets for weigh under 50kg
I thought that koreans knew about all these things 😮
I feel so bad for these idol girls because there damned if you do and damned if you don’t because you hear of these extreme diets but there also so many bullying fat shaming comments for these girls as well.
50kg thats insane most people naturally weigh more than that.
Asia is SO behind on matters of health for women. I had a dr once tell me I'm obese and should be at a weight WAY below my healthy BMI. Luckily I learnt about bmi and eating disorders in school before, so I knew I was within my bmi range and just ignored her (yes! It was a female dr!!). But imagine other young girls, who didn't learn this in school! They will grow up thinking they are over-weight, despite already being in a healthy weight!
the person who said that a Woman shouldn't be more than 50kg surely is a guy who has never Hugged or even been with a Woman before!
Obviously being Fat is Bad for an Idol for Health and Performance concern!
but an Idol who looks like they're just Skin and Bones is worse!
I was thinking, how could their parents let their children be abused like that? Do they think their children are only as money makers? They dont care about their children's wellness as long as they produced money for them? What type of parents are they?
I think it’s because the parents want their children to be able to follow their dream. They probably begged and begged their parents to allow them to become idols and showed their parents how important it is to them. The parents want their children to be happy. They’re trying to do what’s best for their child by allowing them to follow their dreams but they don’t realise by doing this they are sacrificing their child’s health. They are trying to do what’s right but they are misguided.
Here in the U.S. the media shows overweight people in commercials and ads to make it seem main stream. Although diet has a lot of the blame Genetics do also. I am the oldest of five siblings, the three oldest of us had a different father then the last two. My father and mother are small and I am the biggest at 5'8" and 153 pounds. My half brother and sister having a different father who was over 6'4" and well over 200 pounds are both over weight, my half brother is 6'3" and 275 pounds. We ate at the same table, the same food for years and we had the same mother cooking it, go figure. So, you are who you are, the main thing is be healthy and make the best of it. I wish nothing but the best for the ladies featured in this video.
Instead of how they look, how about focusing on the creative side? If you aren't into Kpop as deep as some of us are you can't tell who is who anymore without help...
It's all because of the country crazy beauty standard isn't?
I’ll say it again : people need to stop caring about how skinny someone is and want them to be healthy so they can perform for a long time.
Eating disorders are far more prevalent in Kpop but very few actually admit it
dear Winnie, your face is beautiful. The camera is not always accurate. I bet you look even more thin in person. I hope you eat healthy and don't pay attention to video, media and model expectations. you are a lovely pretty young lady, if anything you can be a little more healthy if you gain a little weight. Italian-american moms will tell you to eat more. I bet your mother says the same. too skinny is no good and no fun! :P
I'm not even an idol but sometimes I go without eating for 2 or 3 days.. when I eat sometimes I do throw up afterward.. I do the not eating thing probably every 2 weeks.. I used to weigh 230 or 240 and now I'm somewhere under 190... Also I go without sleep for 2 or 3 days as well.. Im not even doing this on purpose or anything . I just don't eat sometimes or want to sleep
You should try to remember to eat. It’s bad for your body if you go without eating for so long regularly. Set reminds on your phone or something so you can be reminded when you forget. You don’t want to become ill because you kept forgetting to eat.
This is a way to tell the K-pop company’s all of them K-pop idols are not dolls from the toy shop they are real people in their on way this is just so real if you think this is true me to guys the is like we are dolls that they make pretty in their on way this is just bad for three K-pop idols I’m literally for real this people recording is so true
its really sad that idols talk about their bad eating habits as if its normal, while smiling
I was expecting wonyoung
the reason why k-pop is so successful is that, these people are hand picked, and groomed from early age, often with pretty unfair and brutal "slave" like contracts. Thats the dark side of hugely successful.. k-pop.
Where is Minji?
어린 아이들이 활동한다는 것만 제외하면 모델 생태계랑 비슷하고 더 가혹하고 치열하고 엄격하다
한국 아이돌 지망생은 2018년도 기준으로 1백만명이며 (지금은 더 늘었을 듯)
그 중에 아이돌로 데뷔하는 인원은 300명이다.
거기서 꾸준하게 인기를 얻고 성공하는 인원은 1년에 2~3팀 정도로 본다면 그들의 경쟁이 얼마나 치열한지 알 수 있다.
그 상황에서 수억 수십억을 투자한 회사 운영자들에게는 아이들의 체중이 중요할까 성공이 중요할까.
7년 연습생을 거쳐서 50KG의 성공한 아이돌,
7년 연습을 하고 65KG 실패한 아이돌,
세상의 인식은 50KG의 아이돌을 더 선호하고 성공할 확률이 높은데 어찌해야 할까
아이들의 건강을 생각해서 65KG을 유지해야 할까?
그렇게 해서 회사가 실패를 선물하면 7년 연습한 65KG 아이돌은 만족할까.
우리가 바꿔야하는 건 아이돌 65KG 괜찮아 이런 게 아니라.
아이돌이 다이어트를 간편하고 쉽게 할 수 있는 방법을 찾아야 하는 거 아닐까
what makes me so mad is that only female idols have to do that
Even BTS starved themselves
@@icingcake that's was their choice but female get forced
This is why I don't support kpop anymore. Supporting just proves to the company that what they're doing is working!
Why can't any female actress do the kissing scene in korean dramas? Korean actresses should take kissing lessons before acting in dramas 😎😎
those diets are insane, how is it normalized? how is it ok? HORRIBLE
instead of pressuring the girls to starve why not hire a nutrional expert, and trainer?