I think back when Honey was singing she didn't have anyone playing the piano and singing along. It was just in her head. That's why everyone was staring like that.
It's really interesting to realize that Honey Sugarman and the fly guy are singing a duet alone. We hear it as a completed song but the audience in the show for the perspective timelines are only hearing half. They did an amazing job mixing these 2 time lines!
I think Honey Sugarman was imagining Crackerjack singing and playing the piano with her, because the piano is a memory she shares with Crackerjack, and she went there as soon as she saw it. The fly guy could be imagining his wife singing with him as well
This scene always makes me cry, she’s morning for her son and just like the saying goes: “When a parent dies, the child feels their own mortality. But when a child dies, a parent feels immorality” as in the mother will feel that pain of losing her son forever.
honestly thats what hits me so hard. it would be so easy to write this as another sappy romance or lost dreams or what have you. but that was her SON, her child. that's a pain that's unfathomable and she was punished for hurting. ....this show
A child who lose their parents is called and orphan, but a parent who loses their child has no name.. because no one word can describe how painful it is
it reminded me of beatrice's performance with crackerjack in the view from halfway down by how she jumped and it looked like she was flying. i feel like its also talking about the bug guy refusing to fly after his wifes death.
I think it's that but I think it's also about moving on from their past and loved ones, but because of their memories of them they can't forget. They'll "take flight" and leave them behind, they SHOULD do that, but "maybe tomorrow, not tonight" because they're just so hung up on the past
Well, I'd also add that Eddie refuses to fly as a vow he did for his dead wife, which certainly is a further allegoric layer for the song. "I don't fly!"
I feel like it’s a subjective interpretation I see it as recover she take flight maybe tomorrow not tonight she’s praying she’ll recover tomorrow despite knowing how unlikely it is tonight will be hard hopefully tomorrow will better such a shame things unfortunately don’t always get better
Might be stupid,but re-watching this scene I realized both of them,when grieving their loved one decided not to sing their respective part of the duet as it's something forever incompleted in both Honey and Eddie's mind,portrayed by the show through the song.They feel like they are no one without the person they loved. So when singing,the reason why people look at them weirdy,is that they're just singing half the song
The thing is, with Eddie's piano playing, his singing would sound much more sane and reasonable than Honey's. People would just think he forgot the words. Honey's is the one which sounds actually sort of nuts.
Another cool thing is that when only Honey is singing, Eddie plays her part on the piano, which makes complete sense since it provides a replacement for the female counterpart not being there in his time!
The line, 'But memories, they last' isn't true for Honey or Beatrice. Honey's lobotomy messed up her mind and most likely memories, and Beatrice got dementia when she was older. It's really sad thinking about it.
Anyone else haunted when Eddie sings his chorus? "No I don't wanna be alone now, Just biding my time, I need somebody dearly, And darling, you'd be sublime." That first line...
I think that is that the saddest moments. Because it a mother that just lost her son from the war and a husband that lost his wife a long time ago and still missing her.
I’ve never thought this until now, but what if the reason Beatrice never gets ice cream after this scene is because she associates ice cream with this memory, which she looks back at as a painful memory, because it is the beginning of her mother’s mental descent which eventually leads to her being lobotomized, and basically being dead. This show is so real man, and that’s why I’ll champion it above similar shows like rick and Morty, futurama, early Simpson, because while those shows occasionally got a emotional response from me, Bojack gets a emotional response from me about every 3 episodes or so. If you’re looking for a equally depressing, dark, yet still funny show, i recommend Morel Orel. It’s not as good as Bojack, but it’s damn good.
Not even ice cream, a popsicle. Reinforces her expression of resignation when Bojack asks her if she can taste the vanilla ice cream in their last scene together, bc her mom never let her have it.
My favorite arc of the show by far. The way they melded the two stories that were only connected by one sole character who wasn't even in most scenes (Beatrice) while it being coherent, the way they touched on topics rarely discussed or deeply explored, and the way they could show those two practically unrelated story plots simultaneously was absolutely boggling to watch.
Love the way this show treats the audience. Other series would feel the need to hammer the point about it being a split duet across time home with unnecessary visual cues but Bojack keeps it simple and beatiful
Yeah I’ve never seen BoJack horseman so I didn’t have any context for who these people are but it wasn’t hammered in so I could figure it out myself. It was nice
@@hierrikmedan6934 can't recommend it enough. season one can be a bit hard to get through but it's an incredible show. watching this scene, this episode in context is a masterpiece
They have several visual cues in the reactions of everyone in Honey's timeline but they are subtly done (Beatrice's are especially poignant). It's interesting that BoJack is the only one is his timeline to notice something unusual, even though Eddie sounds much less incomplete with the piano accompaniment (and the time BoJack reacts, he's sung the melody excepting for the last line, in which he harmonizes). Honey looks much more bizarre in her time line than Eddie in his and BoJack's, of course, since she starts in near the end of the first A section, wordlessly vocalizes during the B section (giving us all goosebumps), and of course is without piano.
I also noticed that whenever someone from 1945 passed by people in the present year, the people they passed by turned slightly transparent. That's a nice touch.
Every one talks about how sad it is for Honey and Beatrice but what about Eddie. He watched his wife fucking minced by a plane, that is hella disturbing.
Bojack Horseman is a super realistic and damn heart breaking show that crushes you into pieces, then lifts you up only to crush you again.. and you still want it more... This episode was intensely heartbreaking...
@@dizno3555 i have no idea why i know that. But i know they cant barf. there are like two videos on the internet of it happening. its super rare becaus normaly they just cant
I'm not sure. It may be, sure, but I think she may have been thinking how she related to her mother's pain, but was unable to help her. Like in Beatrice's funeral, when Bojack said they were all drowing together, but didn't know how to save each other. Beatrice was grieving too and she was unable to save herself or her mother, and that's just too sad.
@@stephaniemasson1224Sure, Crackerjack is her loss too, but the series never touched on how it made her feel. Only the affects it had on her mother, and in turn, her parent’s marriage. What we can see though, is that once Crackerjack died, according to Beatrice’s father, she stopped being a mother.
I don't think so. It looked like Beatrice and Honey did have a good relationship, but Honey lost her own son, so of course that's gonna take control of her life. I think that Beatrice's face is a mix of sadness and confusion, since in her timeline Honey is singing alone, without a partner.
@@289rory I don't think it's that "she always loved Crackerjack more than me," but I definitely see an element in Beatrice's reaction of knowing that there is no coming back from this loss, and that there is no way that her relationship with her mother ever can be the same again.
@@alfredmonnery5541 No, it got a good ending last year. The creators are doing Tuca and Bertie now though, which has a lot more of the comedy but still excellently done characters.
*Can we talk about how in harmony they are in? Even if they can't see or hear eachother from being years apart, they both lost someone, and they both want to move on and to finish coping, but just can't. The show is nice, but what it also is is real. It tells you that you're not alone in what's going on, but that doesn't mean it's not happening, and it won't be fixed in 20 minutes, or 20 days.*
@@Goalieguy-rq9cu It wouldn't have been handwritten, nor have come from Hollyhock, were it a restraining order, but I'm sure that it more or less had the same effect.
Watching Honey Sugarman decend into madness after she lost her son was really heart breaking, and the final scene where the fly starts crying about not wanting to live bought me into tears , no animated show has ever bought this much depth of emotions and executed it so well.
I will always think of you I see your face when each day's through And days go past Oh, so fast But memories, they last Summer, winter, year by year (Year by year) I'll hear the song inside my ear Trying to restart That'd be smart But thoughts of you haunt my heart No, I don't want to be alone now Just biding my time I need somebody dearly And darling, you'd be sublime Spring and Autumn Up and down (Up and down) I keep trying to escape this town And I just might I'll take flight Maybe tomorrow, not tonight
It's one of those songs, if applied to the right kind of content, it'll be difficult to forget the feeling stimulated by the song whenever you hear it, there's another song that makes me feel a similar way to when I hear this song, it's called Claire de Lune, the way that it was used put me in a saddened state each time I heard it used outside of where I first heard it used
I listen to this song to sleep. r/2meirl4meirl lol my life is hopeless. There is no space in the US for Chinese LGBT people considering long term immigration
my favourite part is they are both singing a duet alone connecting their stories and they both were missing their other half to the song for honey it was crackerjack and eddie is missing his wife. them both experiencing significant loss is what ties their characters together and they are representing each others loss
This song always brings me to almost tears. My heart never ached this hard for two fictional characters before. They both deserved so much better than what they got. This show really pulls at the heartstrings at times. When I saw the scene where Honey finally breaks down in front of her husband, begging him to "Fix" her.. wow. And the fact that Beatrice had to watch all of that? Spending her days eagerly waiting to see her mother again, only to be mortified when she finally sees her, a shell off her past self. And then being told "Love does things to a person. Terrible things. Beatrice, promise me you will never love anyone as much as I loved Crackerjack." And then Eddie, having to watch his own wife being killed by a plane? Poor guy. It's no wonder why he vowed to never fly again, how traumatizing that would be. And then Bojack came.. and messed it all up for him. Ruining the work he did on the lakehouse for Bojack by destroying it, forcing Eddie to fly when he told Bojack MULTIPLE times throughout the episode that he "doesn't fly," reopening his old wounds. Damn.
@Lunar To be fair, Bojack had good intentions when he forced Eddie to fly. He knew he was hurting, but he didn’t know *how much* he was hurting. In a way, Bojack might have actually helped him, even if it meant opening old wounds, as it forced Eddie to confront the reason why he no longer flew. The morning after he flew for the first time in years, he seemed to have began the first stages of acceptance, or at least moved on from the anger stage in grief. While what Bojack did on paper was shallow, in his head, it likely sounded much less damaging. Seeing Eddie break down in front of the lake, though, that snapped him out of his own stage of grief, and allowed him to message Diane for the first time in months.
I just realized the actual reason they’re each singing a one sided duet is because Eddie would sing with his wife, and Hiney would sing with crackerjack
I just realised that they may look like they're singing together, but they are singing by themself. I can't believe Honey could remember the entire song perfectly without someone playing the piano.
this is one of the maybe the only scene I remember from the first time watching the show this had to be something special that it stuck with me that long
I will always think of you. I see your face when each day’s through and days go past oh so fast but memories, they last. Summer Winter Year by Year. I’ll hear the song Inside my ear. Trying to restart. That’d be smart. The thoughts of you haunt my heart. No I don’t want to be alone now. Just bidding my time. I need somebody dearly. And darling you’d be sublime. Spring and Autumn Up and down. I keep trying to escape this town. And I just might I’ll take flight. Maybe tomorrow, not tonight.
it was so interesting to see the difference in melody from this version of the song and the version earlier in the episode, where honey sings with crackerjack. it's so upbeat and cheerful, bursting with energy when even crackerjack makes a little joke while singing. it's haunting how easy it is to flip the whole mood of the song.
Everyone's saying that Honey and Eddie are singing their own parts, but it feels like it's the opposite, cuz when Honey and Crackerjack sing together she starts the song. Maybe they're singing the missing person's part because if they sing their original part, the silence will pain them even more? 🤷🏽♀️
I find it cool that in the beginning there’s a black faded outline behind Beatrice and Honey but when Honey appears by the piano the outline disappears
Lyrics: I will always think of you I see your face when each day's through And days go past (oh so fast) But memories, they last Summer, winter, year by year (year by year) I'll hear the song inside my ears Trying to restart (that'd be smart) But thoughts of you haunt my heart No I don't wanna be alone now Just biding my time I need somebody dearly And darling, you'd be sublime Spring and autumn, up and down (up and down) I keep trying to escape this town And I just might (I'll take flight) Maybe tomorrow, not tonight
Honey seems to hear Eddie playing across the years, perhaps the only suggestion of the supernatural in BoJack Horseman (outside hallucinations, etc.). Reminds me of Sondheim: "Sweeney heard music that nobody hears."
The fact that this is a duet across time is so cool. They’re really singing alone which is why everyone is staring at Honey like that, but her and Eddie are able to express their grief with the same song 70 years apart
I always loved this scene for that reason. Another way I like to look at it is, no matter what emotion you're feeling at this moment, there is someone who has felt the exact same as you. There were people a thousand years ago who felt as you do, and there will continue to be people feeling these same things for as long as humans exist.
This song gives me 50s vibes, though I think it's the 40s when it's set. Love the show, love this episode, love this song. Really hits you where it hurts.
This song didn’t hit me until the second time I viewed this episode but boy when it hit it hit me hard. I can’t believe it’s about to be 2 years already.
Literalmente nenhum brasileiro em um vídeo de tradução pra PT-BR. É bizarro como poucas pessoas conhecem essa obra no Brasil, essa série é provavelmente a melhor animação que eu vi na vida.
I associate this song with a very beloved dog I lost. The kind of love that you get to have with a furry companion once in a lifetime if you’re lucky. I miss her dearly, and I hope she’s all right.
After the intense season that was season three, this episode was like a calming breath of fresh air. It was a chance to step back and just breathe for a moment.
bojack reminded me of myself in so many ways bc of my constant alcoholism abd i can actually say this show helped me realise what i am is wrong. living in heartbreak isnt okay
When I hear this song I think of two different types of person singing it together: the first is a person who moved away from their best friend since childhood and is missing them, singing about how they can't stop thinking about the great times they had together. The other is a person is someone who was abused in some way (whether from a parent or a significant other is unclear) and the things they said to them stuck like fly paper made of super glue and maple syrup, singing about how their having trouble getting over them or believe what they said as true. Their singing the same song and relate to it but for completely different reasons and having no clue about it.
I would’ve never guessed this song was just over a minute long. It was so deeply impactful in the show it felt like 5 minutes in the best way. So unbelievably underrated.
I really miss the dude who showed me this show I honestly hope he’s doing well last time I talked to him his friend died and he wasn’t the best I tried to help him but idk anymore kinda lost contact with him hope I see him again or soon
Something that always destroys my soul is how greatly they portrayed how songs change meaning. When we first hear this song, honey is happily playing with her son, then after he passes this song changes tone and completely haunts her. There are certain songs I can’t listen to without thinking of my father who has passed and I think this parallel is so beautiful. songs that once happily reminded me of him now destroy me. I love this show ❤❤❤
This was my most listened to song on my Spotify wrapped this year! I love it so much. Spring and autumn, up and down, I keep trying to escape this town and I just might
everybody talks about how this is clearly Honey singing alongside nothing, as nobody was actually playing the piano, but she clearly HEARS the piano before seeing it, as obvious in the first couple seconds either it's just a missed "plot hole" or whatever by the animators, or she genuinely thought she heard the piano playing, or maybe even thought she saw crackerjack where the Fly was sitting
At first, the piano only caught her eye because she saw it out of the corner of her eye, but she was only interested in the piano because it reminded her of Crackerjack. Her singing means that she genuinely thought she heard the piano AFTER she sees it, which is exactly why everyone was looking at her like she was crazy. She and Crackerjack had different parts of the song, so she only sings the parts that were her's while she doesn't say anything for crackerjack's part of the song because it's a duet. She sang without the piano in real life and only sang bits of the song, which is why everyone thought she was crazy.
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What a depressing, soul-crushing, incredible show.
Yeah, I've had to go back and watch a couple scenes because they were quite powerful and impactful
my name is chef I didn't know how much
seriously! watching this show for the first time was an incredible experience
Totes magoats
The details are so thoughtful
I think back when Honey was singing she didn't have anyone playing the piano and singing along. It was just in her head. That's why everyone was staring like that.
Lol. I didn't even realize she's only singing one half of the song. Kinda cool.
Makes it even more sad. Such a wonderful song.
Thats not Beatrice it's her mother
Dashing Steel That’s Honey, not Beatrice.
Fixed, thanks
It's really interesting to realize that Honey Sugarman and the fly guy are singing a duet alone. We hear it as a completed song but the audience in the show for the perspective timelines are only hearing half. They did an amazing job mixing these 2 time lines!
@Untitled Title Crackerjack didn't die to be called *_Clapperjack_*
I think Honey Sugarman was imagining Crackerjack singing and playing the piano with her, because the piano is a memory she shares with Crackerjack, and she went there as soon as she saw it. The fly guy could be imagining his wife singing with him as well
And that's one of the reasons people thought she needed to control herself more, as well as her kissing Sally.
they're both singing half of a duet because the person they loved most left. half of them has left.
Is that why Beatrice looks confused when she harmonizes alone?
This scene always makes me cry, she’s morning for her son and just like the saying goes: “When a parent dies, the child feels their own mortality. But when a child dies, a parent feels immorality” as in the mother will feel that pain of losing her son forever.
Crackerjack was her brother, not son, sorry to disappoint you
@@HiioNcArBoN I’m talking about Mrs. Sugarman, not Beatrice 🤦🏾♀️
honestly thats what hits me so hard. it would be so easy to write this as another sappy romance or lost dreams or what have you. but that was her SON, her child. that's a pain that's unfathomable and she was punished for hurting.
....this show
A child who lose their parents is called and orphan, but a parent who loses their child has no name.. because no one word can describe how painful it is
@@TheNocturnalOracle very well said dude..
Anyone else feel like the lyric "I'll take flight" is an allegory to suicide possibly by jumping off of something high
it reminded me of beatrice's performance with crackerjack in the view from halfway down by how she jumped and it looked like she was flying. i feel like its also talking about the bug guy refusing to fly after his wifes death.
I think it's that but I think it's also about moving on from their past and loved ones, but because of their memories of them they can't forget. They'll "take flight" and leave them behind, they SHOULD do that, but "maybe tomorrow, not tonight" because they're just so hung up on the past
Later on in the episode eddie literally takes flight in order to kill himself (and Bojack by extension)
Well, I'd also add that Eddie refuses to fly as a vow he did for his dead wife, which certainly is a further allegoric layer for the song.
"I don't fly!"
I feel like it’s a subjective interpretation I see it as recover she take flight maybe tomorrow not tonight she’s praying she’ll recover tomorrow despite knowing how unlikely it is tonight will be hard hopefully tomorrow will better such a shame things unfortunately don’t always get better
Might be stupid,but re-watching this scene I realized both of them,when grieving their loved one decided not to sing their respective part of the duet as it's something forever incompleted in both Honey and Eddie's mind,portrayed by the show through the song.They feel like they are no one without the person they loved. So when singing,the reason why people look at them weirdy,is that they're just singing half the song
Damn...
That’s a really good way of looking at it
Goddammit I hadn’t peeled that scab back yet, now I’m crying.
The thing is, with Eddie's piano playing, his singing would sound much more sane and reasonable than Honey's. People would just think he forgot the words. Honey's is the one which sounds actually sort of nuts.
Another cool thing is that when only Honey is singing, Eddie plays her part on the piano, which makes complete sense since it provides a replacement for the female counterpart not being there in his time!
The line, 'But memories, they last' isn't true for Honey or Beatrice. Honey's lobotomy messed up her mind and most likely memories, and Beatrice got dementia when she was older. It's really sad thinking about it.
Nah I feel like she was trapped inside her head with the thoughts of her dead son with no way to express herself
Matches your profile pic, lmao
Bruh your pfp-
I mean, it is true before Honey gets her lobotomy
God that’s heartbreaking
Anyone else haunted when Eddie sings his chorus?
"No I don't wanna be alone now,
Just biding my time,
I need somebody dearly,
And darling, you'd be sublime."
That first line...
Honey's vocalise above it, as she sings the outline of the melody but is unable even to find the words, really does give me chills.
@Andrew Kohler I never even noticed that holy shit. Its like she can't say those words I love that
Please explain I’m trying so hard but can’t crack the code 😢
@@nxomiiigeddie doesn’t want to be without his wife
I think that is that the saddest moments. Because it a mother that just lost her son from the war and a husband that lost his wife a long time ago and still missing her.
She lost his brother idiot smh his son is on the roof
@@barsaa._. they’re talking about Honey, but yeah. Beatrice lost her big bro
@@catherinecao4810 wrutlkngbout
@@barsaa._. the mother they’re talking about is Honey, not Beatrice
@@barsaa._. bruh that's Honey singing use ur eyes
Beatrice finally got her ice cream
WHY AM I CRYING NOW
I’ve never thought this until now, but what if the reason Beatrice never gets ice cream after this scene is because she associates ice cream with this memory, which she looks back at as a painful memory, because it is the beginning of her mother’s mental descent which eventually leads to her being lobotomized, and basically being dead.
This show is so real man, and that’s why I’ll champion it above similar shows like rick and Morty, futurama, early Simpson, because while those shows occasionally got a emotional response from me, Bojack gets a emotional response from me about every 3 episodes or so.
If you’re looking for a equally depressing, dark, yet still funny show, i recommend Morel Orel. It’s not as good as Bojack, but it’s damn good.
Why they didn't allow her to have ice cream? They said ice cream is not for girls, meanwhile her brother could have.
@@rosarose7025 because it makes "girls fat" which back then was not considered attractive
Ice cream isn't for girls, lemon with a little sugar above it is a girls food.
The one time Bea gets ice cream instead of a lemon with sugar her mom gets in an accident and loses half her mind.
Not even ice cream, a popsicle. Reinforces her expression of resignation when Bojack asks her if she can taste the vanilla ice cream in their last scene together, bc her mom never let her have it.
My favorite arc of the show by far. The way they melded the two stories that were only connected by one sole character who wasn't even in most scenes (Beatrice) while it being coherent, the way they touched on topics rarely discussed or deeply explored, and the way they could show those two practically unrelated story plots simultaneously was absolutely boggling to watch.
Thank you
Yes this show really is incredible ❤️
Love the way this show treats the audience. Other series would feel the need to hammer the point about it being a split duet across time home with unnecessary visual cues but Bojack keeps it simple and beatiful
Yeah I’ve never seen BoJack horseman so I didn’t have any context for who these people are but it wasn’t hammered in so I could figure it out myself. It was nice
@@hierrikmedan6934 can't recommend it enough. season one can be a bit hard to get through but it's an incredible show. watching this scene, this episode in context is a masterpiece
They have several visual cues in the reactions of everyone in Honey's timeline but they are subtly done (Beatrice's are especially poignant). It's interesting that BoJack is the only one is his timeline to notice something unusual, even though Eddie sounds much less incomplete with the piano accompaniment (and the time BoJack reacts, he's sung the melody excepting for the last line, in which he harmonizes). Honey looks much more bizarre in her time line than Eddie in his and BoJack's, of course, since she starts in near the end of the first A section, wordlessly vocalizes during the B section (giving us all goosebumps), and of course is without piano.
I also noticed that whenever someone from 1945 passed by people in the present year, the people they passed by turned slightly transparent. That's a nice touch.
Every one talks about how sad it is for Honey and Beatrice but what about Eddie. He watched his wife fucking minced by a plane, that is hella disturbing.
i wonder if he collected her bits that were left
@@lwiksnnam3017 .....Dude. Just, no, c'mon man.
@@WobblesandBean but how would they haves buried her then?
@@lwiksnnam3017 Bruh tf
@@lwiksnnam3017 Probably, if he could find any.
Jane Krakowski has an absolutely beautiful voice. We’re all lucky that every role she lands, they manage to find a way to have her sing through
She landed the role BECAUSE she can sing.
I didn’t realize this was her!!
Bojack Horseman is a super realistic and damn heart breaking show that crushes you into pieces, then lifts you up only to crush you again.. and you still want it more...
This episode was intensely heartbreaking...
realistic. if we forget bojack (a HORSE) barfing.... horses cant do that
@@eliasschroder9967 how would anyone thats not a hillbilly know that
@@dizno3555 i have no idea why i know that. But i know they cant barf. there are like two videos on the internet of it happening. its super rare becaus normaly they just cant
@@eliasschroder9967 Also, it's _crazy_ hard to get a horse drunk.
Not just because of body mass, either. They just metabolize ethanol way too fast.
@@thespecialneedsgroup the more you know thx
1:00 really pinpoints the moment Beatrice realizes she doesn’t mean half as much to her mother as Crackerjack did.
I'm not sure. It may be, sure, but I think she may have been thinking how she related to her mother's pain, but was unable to help her. Like in Beatrice's funeral, when Bojack said they were all drowing together, but didn't know how to save each other. Beatrice was grieving too and she was unable to save herself or her mother, and that's just too sad.
Didn't think about it that way...That definitely messed Beatrice up too.
@@stephaniemasson1224Sure, Crackerjack is her loss too, but the series never touched on how it made her feel. Only the affects it had on her mother, and in turn, her parent’s marriage. What we can see though, is that once Crackerjack died, according to Beatrice’s father, she stopped being a mother.
I don't think so. It looked like Beatrice and Honey did have a good relationship, but Honey lost her own son, so of course that's gonna take control of her life. I think that Beatrice's face is a mix of sadness and confusion, since in her timeline Honey is singing alone, without a partner.
@@289rory I don't think it's that "she always loved Crackerjack more than me," but I definitely see an element in Beatrice's reaction of knowing that there is no coming back from this loss, and that there is no way that her relationship with her mother ever can be the same again.
Although this show needs your full attention to really feel moments like this. It's one of the best shows ever made and I'm really sad to see it end
Are they ever going to do another season ?
@@alfredmonnery5541 No, it got a good ending last year. The creators are doing Tuca and Bertie now though, which has a lot more of the comedy but still excellently done characters.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 didnt that already get canceled😭
@@rue6266 Adult Swim picked it up for a second season, there's a trailer or two out
*Can we talk about how in harmony they are in? Even if they can't see or hear eachother from being years apart, they both lost someone, and they both want to move on and to finish coping, but just can't. The show is nice, but what it also is is real. It tells you that you're not alone in what's going on, but that doesn't mean it's not happening, and it won't be fixed in 20 minutes, or 20 days.*
Or 20 years
3 generations of severely damaged goods
At least it ended with Bojack. Thank god Hollyhock got away
@@Abraham-gf1oi I’m still very curious as to what she said in the letter. I wish he read it out loud
@@Abraham-gf1oi Sadly it didn't end with Bojack, considering his actions got Sarah-Lynn killed. As you said, thank God Hollyhock cut ties with him.
@@damnib4722 It was most likely a restraining order.
@@Goalieguy-rq9cu It wouldn't have been handwritten, nor have come from Hollyhock, were it a restraining order, but I'm sure that it more or less had the same effect.
Watching Honey Sugarman decend into madness after she lost her son was really heart breaking, and the final scene where the fly starts crying about not wanting to live bought me into tears , no animated show has ever bought this much depth of emotions and executed it so well.
I will always think of you
I see your face when each day's through
And days go past
Oh, so fast
But memories, they last
Summer, winter, year by year (Year by year)
I'll hear the song inside my ear
Trying to restart
That'd be smart
But thoughts of you haunt my heart
No, I don't want to be alone now
Just biding my time
I need somebody dearly
And darling, you'd be sublime
Spring and Autumn
Up and down (Up and down)
I keep trying to escape this town
And I just might
I'll take flight
Maybe tomorrow, not tonight
Thank you!
DRINK A BREW
now i can sing this when i’m bawling my eyes out thank you
I've just noticed that the fly guy didn't sing the part of "I'll take fly". Pretty accurate
To be fair, it was not his part on the duet
This song will never not break my heart.
This song still haunts me for some reason
"The thought of you haunts my heart"?
It's one of those songs, if applied to the right kind of content, it'll be difficult to forget the feeling stimulated by the song whenever you hear it, there's another song that makes me feel a similar way to when I hear this song, it's called Claire de Lune, the way that it was used put me in a saddened state each time I heard it used outside of where I first heard it used
I listen to this song to sleep.
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lol my life is hopeless. There is no space in the US for Chinese LGBT people considering long term immigration
@@m12735 hell yes
@@m12735
Then make it yourself
my favourite part is they are both singing a duet alone connecting their stories and they both were missing their other half to the song for honey it was crackerjack and eddie is missing his wife. them both experiencing significant loss is what ties their characters together and they are representing each others loss
“Why did you save me? I don’t want to live. I don’t wanna live!”
This song always brings me to almost tears. My heart never ached this hard for two fictional characters before. They both deserved so much better than what they got. This show really pulls at the heartstrings at times. When I saw the scene where Honey finally breaks down in front of her husband, begging him to "Fix" her.. wow. And the fact that Beatrice had to watch all of that? Spending her days eagerly waiting to see her mother again, only to be mortified when she finally sees her, a shell off her past self. And then being told "Love does things to a person. Terrible things. Beatrice, promise me you will never love anyone as much as I loved Crackerjack."
And then Eddie, having to watch his own wife being killed by a plane? Poor guy. It's no wonder why he vowed to never fly again, how traumatizing that would be. And then Bojack came.. and messed it all up for him. Ruining the work he did on the lakehouse for Bojack by destroying it, forcing Eddie to fly when he told Bojack MULTIPLE times throughout the episode that he "doesn't fly," reopening his old wounds. Damn.
@Lunar
To be fair, Bojack had good intentions when he forced Eddie to fly. He knew he was hurting, but he didn’t know *how much* he was hurting. In a way, Bojack might have actually helped him, even if it meant opening old wounds, as it forced Eddie to confront the reason why he no longer flew. The morning after he flew for the first time in years, he seemed to have began the first stages of acceptance, or at least moved on from the anger stage in grief.
While what Bojack did on paper was shallow, in his head, it likely sounded much less damaging. Seeing Eddie break down in front of the lake, though, that snapped him out of his own stage of grief, and allowed him to message Diane for the first time in months.
I watched this episode over and over it’s my favorite
Both Both I love how both storylines cross like this
i absolutely loved it too
I really love this episode but I don't think I will be able to rewatch it before 10 or so years
@Both Both Same. This show is truly amazing!
I just realized the actual reason they’re each singing a one sided duet is because Eddie would sing with his wife, and Hiney would sing with crackerjack
Bojack Horseman was a fantastic show up to this point. This scene made it legendary.
Up to this point?
@@doomoday1 you can’t read or?
0:55 - The more I watch this, the more heartbreaking I find the look on Honey's face, thinking of Crackerjack singing "And darling, you'd be sublime."
I was amazed that this song was written for the show
i thought it was an actuall song from the 40's
I just realised that they may look like they're singing together, but they are singing by themself. I can't believe Honey could remember the entire song perfectly without someone playing the piano.
You'd be surprised by moments of clarity. They come when you least expect it.
If you know a song by heart you don't need the music to get the time perfectly
Based on the way she perked up I think someone was playing it on the piano
@@klein2042 maybe it was just the sight of the piano?
this is one of the maybe the only scene I remember from the first time watching the show this had to be something special that it stuck with me that long
I will always think of you.
I see your face when each day’s through
and days go past oh so fast but memories, they last.
Summer Winter Year by Year.
I’ll hear the song Inside my ear.
Trying to restart.
That’d be smart.
The thoughts of you haunt my heart.
No I don’t want to be alone now.
Just bidding my time.
I need somebody dearly.
And darling you’d be sublime.
Spring and Autumn Up and down.
I keep trying to escape this town.
And I just might I’ll take flight.
Maybe tomorrow, not tonight.
Thank you!
Two characters we just met in this episode but care about immensely
This song never fails to make me tear up. This show had so many beautifully handled tragic stories
"maybe tomorrow not tonight" gets you in the feels
I think it's a consensus that Bojack Horseman is the best show ever made. but never, never anyone's favorite.
true
its my favorite but i think its the third best show ever made lol, just behind breaking bad and better call saul
It's a fantastic show that needs to exist, but it's not a show you watch over and over again because you enjoy it. That's Avatar.
the fact they're singing in their own time periods is SO heartbreaking and that they're grieving
it was so interesting to see the difference in melody from this version of the song and the version earlier in the episode, where honey sings with crackerjack. it's so upbeat and cheerful, bursting with energy when even crackerjack makes a little joke while singing. it's haunting how easy it is to flip the whole mood of the song.
maybe tomorrow, not tonight....
Everyone's saying that Honey and Eddie are singing their own parts, but it feels like it's the opposite, cuz when Honey and Crackerjack sing together she starts the song. Maybe they're singing the missing person's part because if they sing their original part, the silence will pain them even more? 🤷🏽♀️
This is very accurate. She starts the songs singing.
Came here to say this
Makes it even worse when you consider Honey sings the "I'll take flight" line. Eddie used to sing that line, before he lost his wife
Promise me you'll never love anyone as much as I loved crackerjack
I promise
Why I have half a mind
Tfw your connection to show about anthropomorphic cartoon animals makes you feel more than any other adult programming ever has.
I loved Bojack Horseman so much and yet when I happen to watch some scenes like this one on yt I realise I still underestimated it.
Jane krakowski understood the assignment
i had NO IDEA that jane krakowski voiced honey sugarman and that she actually sang. her voice is so beautiful.
Originally I heard the lyric “but memories they last” as “but memories fade last” and putting it together with the show and episode just hurts
I find it cool that in the beginning there’s a black faded outline behind Beatrice and Honey but when Honey appears by the piano the outline disappears
It happens whenever a character from the past passes by one from the future
Lyrics:
I will always think of you
I see your face when each day's through
And days go past (oh so fast)
But memories, they last
Summer, winter, year by year (year by year)
I'll hear the song inside my ears
Trying to restart (that'd be smart)
But thoughts of you haunt my heart
No I don't wanna be alone now
Just biding my time
I need somebody dearly
And darling, you'd be sublime
Spring and autumn, up and down (up and down)
I keep trying to escape this town
And I just might (I'll take flight)
Maybe tomorrow, not tonight
It’s amazing how this show started as horse family guy and ended up as one of if not the best animated series ever created
A wonderful Scene in a golden TV Series
I like to think that when they’re singing, they see each other.
Honey seems to hear Eddie playing across the years, perhaps the only suggestion of the supernatural in BoJack Horseman (outside hallucinations, etc.). Reminds me of Sondheim: "Sweeney heard music that nobody hears."
Honey looked crazy in the time that it happened.
This scene is a masterpiece
The fact that this is a duet across time is so cool. They’re really singing alone which is why everyone is staring at Honey like that, but her and Eddie are able to express their grief with the same song 70 years apart
I always loved this scene for that reason. Another way I like to look at it is, no matter what emotion you're feeling at this moment, there is someone who has felt the exact same as you. There were people a thousand years ago who felt as you do, and there will continue to be people feeling these same things for as long as humans exist.
Favorite part of the whole season, possibly followed by Bea recognizing BoJack
This song gives me 50s vibes, though I think it's the 40s when it's set. Love the show, love this episode, love this song. Really hits you where it hurts.
It’s definitely 40s. 50s is more rock n roll, and doo wop when it comes to ballads.
This song didn’t hit me until the second time I viewed this episode but boy when it hit it hit me hard. I can’t believe it’s about to be 2 years already.
it's interesting at honey's verse eddie plays the medoly on the piano too cause at his timeline no one's singing during that
something that I don’t think anyone mentioned yet-honey is singing crackerjacks part in the song from earlier
The Loss of a Friend
The Loss of a Partner
The Loss of a Child
Eddie sings and when he is not, he plays the piano, but Honey is seen as a weirdo who just started signing out of nowhere:(
I get this song stuck in my head whenever my best friend doesn’t reply to me for a concerning amount of time
update: she is now my girlfriend YIPEEEEEEEEEEE
@@slipupyt that’s good to hear
LETS GOOO
@@slipupyt common jankers w
this type of music hurts my heart. honey's voice is so perfect
bojack horseman sometimes is too relatable 😪. not this particular episode but sometimes the way bojack acts i can see myself
Tragic meaning and backstory aside, the song is so good.
*I'll take flight*
Maybe tomorrow not tonight....
Literalmente nenhum brasileiro em um vídeo de tradução pra PT-BR. É bizarro como poucas pessoas conhecem essa obra no Brasil, essa série é provavelmente a melhor animação que eu vi na vida.
simmm!!
I associate this song with a very beloved dog I lost. The kind of love that you get to have with a furry companion once in a lifetime if you’re lucky. I miss her dearly, and I hope she’s all right.
Bojack horseman has to be the most saddest story I have ever seen
After the intense season that was season three, this episode was like a calming breath of fresh air. It was a chance to step back and just breathe for a moment.
Bro did we even watch the same show
Except for the lobotomy
@Dylan Herrera Gaming I think they are talking about the duet not the stuff after
Maybe tomorrow, not tonight.
Hits close to home.
He loses to his wife and she loses to her son...
And Bojack everything .
This song has been in my head for the past couple of weeks, and I’m here again to get it more stuck
OK but the song slaps
The fly and Honey's voice are D I V I N E
bojack reminded me of myself in so many ways bc of my constant alcoholism abd i can actually say this show helped me realise what i am is wrong. living in heartbreak isnt okay
When I hear this song I think of two different types of person singing it together: the first is a person who moved away from their best friend since childhood and is missing them, singing about how they can't stop thinking about the great times they had together. The other is a person is someone who was abused in some way (whether from a parent or a significant other is unclear) and the things they said to them stuck like fly paper made of super glue and maple syrup, singing about how their having trouble getting over them or believe what they said as true.
Their singing the same song and relate to it but for completely different reasons and having no clue about it.
The subtle outlining on the characters when they walk in front of characters from the past or present is brilliant
I don't know why this song has stuck with me since I first heard it.
I sing it to myself everyday
Samee
I would’ve never guessed this song was just over a minute long. It was so deeply impactful in the show it felt like 5 minutes in the best way.
So unbelievably underrated.
jesus christ this episode broke me
"I keep trying to escape this town" might be my favorite quote from bojack
One of the best scenes in Bojack horseman
On January 16 2006, I lost the only woman I ever loved and have never stopped mourning her
I really miss the dude who showed me this show I honestly hope he’s doing well last time I talked to him his friend died and he wasn’t the best I tried to help him but idk anymore kinda lost contact with him hope I see him again or soon
Sadest episode in the show... and the end is incredibly disturbing
God it hurts to realize they are singing their only their part of the duet because they're used to having someone to sing it with.
Why, I have half a mind...
the amount of relatability i feel with this song is shocking. nobody deserves to live a life in such sadness, yet life is crude.
the melancholy aches so beautifully. genius.
I love this song, I'm addicted
the best episode ever!
i keep coming back to this video i loved it sm
yep!
Something that always destroys my soul is how greatly they portrayed how songs change meaning. When we first hear this song, honey is happily playing with her son, then after he passes this song changes tone and completely haunts her.
There are certain songs I can’t listen to without thinking of my father who has passed and I think this parallel is so beautiful. songs that once happily reminded me of him now destroy me.
I love this show ❤❤❤
This was my most listened to song on my Spotify wrapped this year! I love it so much. Spring and autumn, up and down, I keep trying to escape this town and I just might
Welp. Time to go rewatch Bojack
everybody talks about how this is clearly Honey singing alongside nothing, as nobody was actually playing the piano, but she clearly HEARS the piano before seeing it, as obvious in the first couple seconds
either it's just a missed "plot hole" or whatever by the animators, or she genuinely thought she heard the piano playing, or maybe even thought she saw crackerjack where the Fly was sitting
At first, the piano only caught her eye because she saw it out of the corner of her eye, but she was only interested in the piano because it reminded her of Crackerjack. Her singing means that she genuinely thought she heard the piano AFTER she sees it, which is exactly why everyone was looking at her like she was crazy. She and Crackerjack had different parts of the song, so she only sings the parts that were her's while she doesn't say anything for crackerjack's part of the song because it's a duet. She sang without the piano in real life and only sang bits of the song, which is why everyone thought she was crazy.
You know what is the saddest part? Memories didn't last...