As much as i like this tent it seems a bit pricey for what it is. 10 years ago i bought my miltec recon for £65 and its still going strong, i replaced the pegs and poles for lightweight aluminium versions so all in all the tent cost about £100, I'm surprised more people don't opt for that tent. Good informative vid. 👏👏👍❤️🇬🇧
Love the review, Andy. Thank you. I had it’s predecessor which wasn’t long enough for my lanky frame (I’m 6’6”) I’m keeping my eyes open for a lighter weight alternative to my Crux Assault which is a nuke shelter and just big enough for me and the hound whilst weighing 2kg plus pegs. I need to have a physical look at this. I prefer side entry tents but would love a door each side to allow for ventilation options and for change of wind direction.
@@markatchison9974 thanks, Mark. I have owned one of those and loved it - until it got flattened in high wind and bent a pole. The trouble is, you lose faith when that happens. I had my Crux out over Christmas hols & New Year and recorded gusts up to 71mph and she took it like a trooper. It’s not brilliant when it’s below 0°C though as the single skin ices over and then it’s not so nice. I been through so many tents ……. Weight, for me, is critical as I love mountaineering and long distance hiking.
Yes good well organised review with experienced comments. I would have thought that being a literal 4 season adaptable as opposed to winter focussed tent is not that relevant as typically mid to high end buyers own a a series of tents and bivvie bags to chose from for the season, altitude, and weather anticipated? You emphasised its attractive floor space for dressing etc to which one could add IMHO that extra height at the end stakes over the akto, and aided further by that trianglular fly shape, is so important for keeping the inner off your face and feet. Thx for posting. JMO
Hi Andy, great review. I pre-ordered mine and got it in mid-April. It is taller that the previous AS1 and AS2 tents which is better for sitting up in. I had a very wild and windy first night on Little Whernside which was challenging, but it held up well. I can manage with the entrance porch but it would be better if it was about 5cm wider. You can double pole it if you buy a second main pole. The pegs are very good, unusual in my experience. My previous Laser Large 1 tent came with flimsy carbon pegs which cracked. I got some titanium pegs which were light but couldn’t be used for the key anchor points. I’ll avoid exposed pitches on fell tops but I’ll be using it all seasons with the footprint.
Just bought this tent. Agree with your review totally. The thing I am most concerned about is how saggy the inner tent is. Tried for an hour to sort it and it is still really not great. Going to try again and peg out the inner tent separately to the outer to see if that helps. I don't think the elastic peg points help. Might look to replace them with a paracord tie out to see if that helps. Disappointed I will have to take additional pegs with me for this tent. Have you managed to find a way to deal with the inner sagging?
Looks very nice i used to have a similar design wild country zephros but it drove me mad it was so saggy but those extra 2 guy lines on the ends look much better and i agree terra novas inners are shocking so loose and billowing
Also in IMHO that triangular as opposed to rectangular vertical shape should make it relatively wind stable for its weight. When 30mph plus winds hit the side of a tent with a vertical wall a tent takes a shock that distortes the poles than an angled gently ascending wall as in this new lazer AS - due to its generous floor area for weight and triangular fly shape - does not. This is part of why I do not trust the TN Voyager 2 tent at 2kg (and so many other similiar tents.) When you stop and stare at the voyager you see near vertical side walls with a single side guyline and zero guylines at the tail and no direct in front guyline to support that front cross pole. Just MHO. Thx for posting.
Thanks for a a great video. Can you do a video on a 2 person back packing tent that uses trekking poles please? Not too expensive please. We are just started researching into back packing so we are complete novices. Really want to try wild camping. We are really enjoying day packing at the moment. Many thanks. Judy
Looks great but I never seem to camp where all stakes go into the ground without a major fight. Pitching on grass is a dream set up rarely repeated in the wild.
Before watching reviews i always check the price first. Thus at the price of nearly £700 for this teny, i wont watch the video. however love many of your other tent videos..Keep up the great work mate..
Great looking compact tent, as the name suggests. Agree with other about the price though. When you can get the absolute palace of the southern cross 2 cheaper. I know there’s a weight and pack size difference and obviously the pitch size. Difficult to decide as my budget will only stretch to one. The wild country options honestly look very poor in comparison. I guess it’s what I want it for, luxury space in the southern cross 2 or small & lightweight for multi-day hikes? Help !!! 😂😂
Great and informative video as always Andy. I have the Wild Country Zephyros 2 which is very similar looking, however the terra nova has better guy outs
Another great video, I personally didn’t find the vestibules that small. I liked that I could tuck items at either end which helped with space. However I must admit one of the reasons I preferred the telemark 2.2 Lw was because I have move space inside the tent for bag etc, rather than in the vestibule.
The top-end gear is, no doubt about that. However, there's still lots of great budget gear out there. I also buy a lot of nearly-new gear off eBay too!
Great review as ever, thanks for posting and I echo your thoughts in that the all season spec of this tent is just what I'm looking for - there just aren't that many tents that tick so many boxes. Any thoughts on how rain/moisture channels away around the door, this has been an issue on some other TN designs with the lack of rain gutters?
Wish TN had decent pitching instructions/videos showing all the little things besides just "peg everything" which is basically all they give you on their website.
Great video as always… just a request, could you clarify when you give measurements if it’s the external or internal? You were in the tent when mentioning it’s 220cm long which suggested that’s the length inside, but according to the specs that’s the outer length. Us 6ft plus people need to know from reviews if our heads and toes will touch the ends. Cheers 👍👌
Great review, and might be just what I need. Really like the extra size the new model has, a touch over 6ft this looks like it would be more comfortable than the standard 1p or 2p version. Whats the thoughts on the groundsheet? Of on to do the coast to coast in September so looking for something a bit lighter than my old vango!
Is there any way of permanently attaching the ground sheet if you added toggles or something? I like the look of the tent but the separate ground sheet is a deal breaker for me. Love the channel!
Great video. I've been looking forward to a better look at this one. I'm torn between this and the SC2. I know it's heavier but I think the extra space and similar venting makes it an option. Also when doing maintenance or cleaning I would be setting up the tent indoors so a freestanding tent makes that easier. But I like the AS so I am torn! The winner for me might just be which is safer. Which would survive worse conditions? I only camp on Scottish hills and mountains so it's important.
The inner sagging has put me off straight away. Especially for the cost of the tent. I already own the Voyager two, but I am looking for a tent for Bike packing . I will probably skip this one.
Hi great review as always. Is the sleeve where the poles go the same for the terra nova laser compact 1. Are they permanently attached or have to be done when pitch for the first time?
@@BackpackingUK thank you. Are the 2023 models for the laser compact 1 and 2 now all permanently attached or they continue to have that removable sleeve with added seamed seals?
There are lighter tents out there, many from the USA or China, but they won’t stand up to British weather. I have this tent- had no problems with condensation, find the weight easily manageable and the internal space for one is great.
You've got to be really careful cooking inside the vestibule in 1 person 4 season tents, there isn't really enough airflow. It can be done BUT as a absolute minimum all the vents should be open.
@@BackpackingUK Thanks Andy for the reply, wellll noted. Would you say that out of ALL the tents you have tested, this is the best all-rounder? I live in Finland, so it is not exactly hot here..
@@BackpackingUK Thanks for the input, I’ve been fighting for months with ehat tent I would start my outdoors stuff with, but there is just too many good options! I have watched every single one of yours and Messner’s videos trying to come to a conclusion. But this Lazer AS has been on my mind for long, as it has enough headroom and good ventilation. Keep up the good work with top videos Andy!
Not a patch on the Terra Nova Quasar. Though it is half the weight. Weight is always the ultimate trade off imo. Lightweight tents aren't strong. Strong tents are heavy.
Good tent, I agree but it’s the old weight issue trade off. There are a few lighter weight tents that are super tough but it’s the old triangle: weight, cost, functionality. There are tents like some Hillebergs, Fjallraven, Crux etc etc but as the weight goes down and functionally you keep the criteria, the £ goes shooting up. It’s why I keep watching these video’s for that breakthrough. 🤞
@@chrishamilton2527 Right now I'm trying to decide between this AS and the Southern Cross 2. About 800 grams more for bigger tent, two doors, similar ventilation, extra pole for support (I camp in Scottish Highlands), bigger vestibule (two of them), and being freestanding means I can easily do maintenance indoors at home (I have no garden). Reading all that it sounds like a no brainer I should get the SC2 but it's more expensive and nearly a kilo heavier so it does balance them out for me. Problem is they're balanced too much, I can't decide haha
@@geneticjen9312 for me, the weight is absolutely critical - it really factors between a mission and enjoyment. Yes, two doors and vestibules are fantastic but for me it’s focussed on the weight and 800gms is also the weight of bigger bottle of Smart water. The lighter weight wins this for me. I used to hike with 18-21kg with all the luxuries but it becomes too much when water and food were added. I’m now closer to 10kg including water and food and suddenly it’s very enjoyable again. This goes up to 12 kg for winter with extra food and clothing but slightly less water (heavier sleep mat, extra thermals; change to warmer quilt). I still have a chair as well. Big change to get lighter was my cook set.
@@chrishamilton2527 I don't think there will ever be a "breakthrough". No ideal will be found between heavy & light. I choose heavy, because it's reliable & shorten my walks to camp.
Now I have my durstan mid 2 full inner so much roomier and cheaper! Lots more room and soo much lighter at 1100 grams. I agree maybe not for a wild winter but good enough for the weather and hikes I do. No poles to worry about just walking poles. You can get one from Canada £400 all in so I’m now biased towards this tent 😊
I really like my X-Mid 1P Solid. It's definitely less weather proof than this but much lighter. Trouble is, for people who don't use trekking poles you need to add that weight on.
I just had a chat about this tent with two separate people within one day when discussing tents. It's really tempting but the price tag is very steep...
600 quid and they're using bungee cord to attach the corners of the inner to the outer? WTF! Even my 60 quid OEX Phoxx 2 uses a better system than that, and it only weighs 400gms more! I personally think TN are taking the piss! 🤦🏻♂️
Great tent mate I love my terra nova. I have the lazer all season compact 2 that is the 2022 model and stopped it and I think the as is a replacement. Thing is mine has 2 doors and dac poles so I think they went ott on it and changed it for some reason. Anyway still both cracking tents.
The Laser Compact All Seasons 2 was never a 2 person tent! I don't know why they even tried to pass it off as a 2P. It was still a great 1P tent though, this is the new version and they've kept similar dimensions, just dropped the 2P.
@Backpacking UK yeah defo not a 2 person I brought it as a 1p but better that it has 2 doors as wherever the wind is you have the ability to open another door. Also it's the quasar materials, so it's bit stronger.
I prefer my current three season compact 2. You can always make a colder tent warmer but not so much make a hot tent cooler. Give me double doors and extra ventilation any day.
But you must remember it’s ONLY £550 with the 20% Discount 🤣🤣🤣 As you say, way to pricey when the average Joe & families are struggling to make ends meet with the current cost of living crisis and the exorbitant Gas & Electricity prices. There are more important things to deal with right now, never mind £690 for a Tent.
@@andypitt6250 absolutely pal. Be better off looking at Budget Equipment for viewers than showing off these expensive Tents etc in my opinion. It’s up to the individual if they want to pay extortionate prices, but it does feel like one is getting their nose rubbed in it by showing what they can afford when the truth is most folk haven’t got a pot to piss in right now….. Take Care buddy.
@@chrishamilton2527 I am using tents mostly in Alps, where wind resistant tent is essential. As the example... Robens uses airflow tests for their tents, like forever. At the momemt I am using Chaser 2, which is claimed with up to 200 km/h wind resistance... sure material, not bad pitching. So far I tested it with 70 km/h which is quite a blow.
@@mojaslovenija9903 that brilliant, I didn’t know anyone did that - or if they did is it from all angles. Thanks for the advice - I really appreciate it. My Crux has faced severe winds and stood up to them without much fuss - I’ve really got confidence in it. By contrast my Z-Packs literally came apart at the mesh in a summer storm with 25 mph wind. Not very impressive. My Terra Nova is a great tent but I’m just physically too long for it. I’ll have a peek at Robens. Thanks for the update. Thanks go to Andy for providing this medium for us to chat.
Black tent is not for me. Why make it black, Also Terr Nova using cheap alloy poles and not leading poles from Easton or DAC, that tent s expensive for what it is in my opinion there is a lot better options for aa light weight back packing tent at less money. Small and heavy for its useable size.
So its just a coincidence that Abbie Barnes, Paul Messner and yourself all affiliated with Terra Nova have reviewed this same tent? I like seeing the gear reviews no matter what but I think people should be straight about this aspect. @@BackpackingUK
@@etztz123 It’s not coincidence, I purchased this the day it was released so my review was way before theirs. Check the dates for yourself! You can see me testing it in the Brecons way back before summer. Rubbish comments like this annoy me because I’m spending my own money. If you bothered to watch the channel properly you’d see me talking about reinvesting all my money back into it. Others just bank it all, then ask for Patreon, Memberships, Subscriptions, etc. They’re the ones laughing at you, not me.
@@BackpackingUK I dont really see why my comment is rubbish. Too many youtubers out there now all being furnished with free equipment in return for cheap advertising. The fact they obtain the equipment isnt my issue - I think they deserve it tbh. However, its the reviewing without stating whether they paid for it out of there own money or not which bothers me and for obvious reasons. (Bias reviews) I know you stated you used your own money but it just seemed coincidental, abbie barnes and others who are all affiliated with terra nova have reviewed this same product. I asked abbie the same question but she never responsed. Only Paul Messner on a recent vlog said he aproached Terra nova and asked if he could review this particular tent, so big respect to him for being honest. Perhaps others should follow with this transparency so viewers know wether reviews are genuine and unbiased.
Be careful with affiliations. I'm affiliated with Terra Nova so I can get 20% off for all my viewers. However, this doesn't mean I get a free TN tent turn up at my door every week!
Unless I'm not viewing correctly, how can a 4 season tent not have an outer that reaches the ground all around? There isnt even a snow skirt? Try that scenario out in a Cairngorm winter storm and you'll very soon realise its shortcomings. The outer weatherproofs the inner, its not rocket science.... Great tent but true 4 season? I think not, 4 season in 'soft' weather only.
@@alanhanley2981 Writing from my experience (200 days working field days as geographer), not the brand claims: four season tent can be used in any season: hot summer or cold winter, usually it is modular, great example are new Robens Chaser Series (offically claimed as three season tents but are actually four season - that's why I always trust european brands). Winter tent is meant only for a winter, handling the snow weight, having insulation or proper mesh: as the example Ferino Solo tent and Helliberg BL series or tents brandes as "expedition" tents. Using winter tent in other seasons would be problematic, mostly due the condensation. But take that as my two Slovene-Euro cents... I use tents mostly in Alps.
helsport ringstind superlight 2 ; a much better tent imo, same same but 145 kilos. Helsport had this design for 20 years they know what they doing!! NORWEGIAN AS ME CANT BE WRONG
I see they sell it as a 3 season tent. Looks a great tent for better weather, this is more suited to adverse weather conditions hence the additional weight.
Visit www.terra-nova.co.uk/aff/backpackinguk and use the code BACKPACKINGUK to get 20% off RRP.
Thanks Richard, can I still use the code today to get 20% off?
Sorry, I meant Andy i don't know where i got the Richard from 🥴
Amazing, just chanced upon your channel to check out this tent, used the link and saved loads! I’m so grateful- Thank you.
Rich
I really like the look of this tent , nice colour and features , really good review , all the best 👍
It's genuinely really good, I highly rate it!
@@BackpackingUK cheers mate , it's now on my wishlist 👍😁 🏕
As much as i like this tent it seems a bit pricey for what it is. 10 years ago i bought my miltec recon for £65 and its still going strong, i replaced the pegs and poles for lightweight aluminium versions so all in all the tent cost about £100, I'm surprised more people don't opt for that tent.
Good informative vid. 👏👏👍❤️🇬🇧
Love the review, Andy. Thank you. I had it’s predecessor which wasn’t long enough for my lanky frame (I’m 6’6”) I’m keeping my eyes open for a lighter weight alternative to my Crux Assault which is a nuke shelter and just big enough for me and the hound whilst weighing 2kg plus pegs. I need to have a physical look at this. I prefer side entry tents but would love a door each side to allow for ventilation options and for change of wind direction.
You could do worse than check out the MSR Elixir 2 & forget the weight issue?
@@markatchison9974 thanks, Mark. I have owned one of those and loved it - until it got flattened in high wind and bent a pole. The trouble is, you lose faith when that happens. I had my Crux out over Christmas hols & New Year and recorded gusts up to 71mph and she took it like a trooper. It’s not brilliant when it’s below 0°C though as the single skin ices over and then it’s not so nice. I been through so many tents …….
Weight, for me, is critical as I love mountaineering and long distance hiking.
@@chrishamilton2527 If you want a strong tent, you have to go heavy. Geodesic Terra Nova Quasar. No lightweight tent is good in wind.
Brilliant review 👏 👍
Cheers 👍
This is just the review that I was looking for. One question, is 98cm the highest point of the inner or is it the highest point of the outer flysheet?
Yes good well organised review with experienced comments. I would have thought that being a literal 4 season adaptable as opposed to winter focussed tent is not that relevant as typically mid to high end buyers own a a series of tents and bivvie bags to chose from for the season, altitude, and weather anticipated? You emphasised its attractive floor space for dressing etc to which one could add IMHO that extra height at the end stakes over the akto, and aided further by that trianglular fly shape, is so important for keeping the inner off your face and feet. Thx for posting. JMO
Hi Andy, great review. I pre-ordered mine and got it in mid-April. It is taller that the previous AS1 and AS2 tents which is better for sitting up in. I had a very wild and windy first night on Little Whernside which was challenging, but it held up well. I can manage with the entrance porch but it would be better if it was about 5cm wider. You can double pole it if you buy a second main pole. The pegs are very good, unusual in my experience. My previous Laser Large 1 tent came with flimsy carbon pegs which cracked. I got some titanium pegs which were light but couldn’t be used for the key anchor points. I’ll avoid exposed pitches on fell tops but I’ll be using it all seasons with the footprint.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Hi Andy, another great review. What do you think beats it as a one person, all season? 🧐
Scarp 1 is a real contender! There’s only a few tents out there that are genuine all season backpacking tents.
Just bought this tent. Agree with your review totally. The thing I am most concerned about is how saggy the inner tent is. Tried for an hour to sort it and it is still really not great. Going to try again and peg out the inner tent separately to the outer to see if that helps. I don't think the elastic peg points help. Might look to replace them with a paracord tie out to see if that helps. Disappointed I will have to take additional pegs with me for this tent. Have you managed to find a way to deal with the inner sagging?
From my experience it’s a Terra Nova thing, the Southern Cross and Pioneer are the same. It can be fixed through some mods but it’s a pain!
Very cool. Nice to see different designs than the typical tents seen here in the US.
Sometimes I think the US is too caught up on weight and then scrimp on the specification.
Looks very nice i used to have a similar design wild country zephros but it drove me mad it was so saggy but those extra 2 guy lines on the ends look much better and i agree terra novas inners are shocking so loose and billowing
That's my issue with some single pole tents, they're simply not taut enough. This is great though!
Also in IMHO that triangular as opposed to rectangular vertical shape should make it relatively wind stable for its weight. When 30mph plus winds hit the side of a tent with a vertical wall a tent takes a shock that distortes the poles than an angled gently ascending wall as in this new lazer AS - due to its generous floor area for weight and triangular fly shape - does not. This is part of why I do not trust the TN Voyager 2 tent at 2kg (and so many other similiar tents.) When you stop and stare at the voyager you see near vertical side walls with a single side guyline and zero guylines at the tail and no direct in front guyline to support that front cross pole. Just MHO. Thx for posting.
Thanks for a a great video. Can you do a video on a 2 person back packing tent that uses trekking poles please? Not too expensive please. We are just started researching into back packing so we are complete novices. Really want to try wild camping. We are really enjoying day packing at the moment. Many thanks. Judy
Take a look at my 3F UL Gear Lanshan 2 Pro tent review. I’ve got a couple more trekking pole tent reviews coming out soon too!
Looks great but I never seem to camp where all stakes go into the ground without a major fight.
Pitching on grass is a dream set up rarely repeated in the wild.
I always make sure I find a pitch were the stakes go in, especially when not using a free-standing tent.
@@BackpackingUK Great idea but come to rocky Nevada you ll be wandering for days looking for suitable ground lol.
we Enjoy your program over here mate
Regarding the cost it’s around the same as several nights bed and breakfast tho not as comfortable it should last for quite a few years with care.
It's really well made so I see no reason why it shouldn't last for years. I have a 20 year old Lazer Lite!
@@BackpackingUK my 2002 Lazer is still doing good service as a winter tent back in Australia with a friend
Before watching reviews i always check the price first. Thus at the price of nearly £700 for this teny, i wont watch the video. however love many of your other tent videos..Keep up the great work mate..
Great looking compact tent, as the name suggests. Agree with other about the price though. When you can get the absolute palace of the southern cross 2 cheaper. I know there’s a weight and pack size difference and obviously the pitch size. Difficult to decide as my budget will only stretch to one. The wild country options honestly look very poor in comparison. I guess it’s what I want it for, luxury space in the southern cross 2 or small & lightweight for multi-day hikes? Help !!! 😂😂
Great and informative video as always Andy. I have the Wild Country Zephyros 2 which is very similar looking, however the terra nova has better guy outs
Another great video, I personally didn’t find the vestibules that small. I liked that I could tuck items at either end which helped with space. However I must admit one of the reasons I preferred the telemark 2.2 Lw was because I have move space inside the tent for bag etc, rather than in the vestibule.
Mark from BPUK is the same, he prefers tents that he can store his gear in. I'm 50:50. Some gear inside but my backpack is always in the vestibule.
With the way the price of gear is starting to soar, I'm worried if my lad and I will ever get set up.
The top-end gear is, no doubt about that. However, there's still lots of great budget gear out there. I also buy a lot of nearly-new gear off eBay too!
Could be the perfect tent! Did look at this the other day. Large 1 man tent, abit larger the helm 1 which I have.
Would you say this is larger on inside than the helm 1? Really considering this one.
Great review as ever, thanks for posting and I echo your thoughts in that the all season spec of this tent is just what I'm looking for - there just aren't that many tents that tick so many boxes. Any thoughts on how rain/moisture channels away around the door, this has been an issue on some other TN designs with the lack of rain gutters?
Wish TN had decent pitching instructions/videos showing all the little things besides just "peg everything" which is basically all they give you on their website.
Hi Andy,this tent or the southern cross 1 that’s the question mate.love your reviews keep up the good work
I just find the height in the SC1 a bit too low. Otherwise it’s a great tent.
Great video as always… just a request, could you clarify when you give measurements if it’s the external or internal? You were in the tent when mentioning it’s 220cm long which suggested that’s the length inside, but according to the specs that’s the outer length. Us 6ft plus people need to know from reviews if our heads and toes will touch the ends. Cheers 👍👌
You sure about that?!?
The internal length is 217cm 👍
Great review, and might be just what I need. Really like the extra size the new model has, a touch over 6ft this looks like it would be more comfortable than the standard 1p or 2p version. Whats the thoughts on the groundsheet? Of on to do the coast to coast in September so looking for something a bit lighter than my old vango!
Doesnt seem worth it 1750g when the Southern Cross is fully freestanding and weighs 1690g
Is there any way of permanently attaching the ground sheet if you added toggles or something? I like the look of the tent but the separate ground sheet is a deal breaker for me. Love the channel!
You can’t definitely do it yourself, it’s not difficult. It’s just frustrating they don’t make it easy!
Great video. I've been looking forward to a better look at this one. I'm torn between this and the SC2. I know it's heavier but I think the extra space and similar venting makes it an option. Also when doing maintenance or cleaning I would be setting up the tent indoors so a freestanding tent makes that easier. But I like the AS so I am torn! The winner for me might just be which is safer. Which would survive worse conditions? I only camp on Scottish hills and mountains so it's important.
Only you can really decide. They're both great tents. It's the old space vs weight decision!
The inner sagging has put me off straight away. Especially for the cost of the tent. I already own the Voyager two, but I am looking for a tent for Bike packing . I will probably skip this one.
You can probably pull the the floor back to cook.
Great video! Is the code only for this tent or can u use it on any tent on the website?
All Terra Nova and Wild Country gear!
Hi great review as always.
Is the sleeve where the poles go the same for the terra nova laser compact 1.
Are they permanently attached or have to be done when pitch for the first time?
Permanently attached, not the silly cover!
@@BackpackingUK thank you.
Are the 2023 models for the laser compact 1 and 2 now all permanently attached or they continue to have that removable sleeve with added seamed seals?
Is there any benefit over the hilleberg Akto? They're the same weight aren't they?
Yes, definitely! I’ll be reviewing them back to back shortly.
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Andy, is the footprint for this handed ? I've pitched in the dark and rain for the first time, and I think the footprint is wrong 🤣🤣🤣 cheers
Sorry, I didn’t purchase the footprint. I’d guess if it’s shaped the flat edge would go alongside the vestibule.
Great review always. Looks a cracking tent
It genuinely is. It's also nice to see tents being modernised!
There are lighter tents out there, many from the USA or China, but they won’t stand up to British weather. I have this tent- had no problems with condensation, find the weight easily manageable and the internal space for one is great.
Hi Andy, nice video! Do you think that cooking with outer door closed is an option?
You've got to be really careful cooking inside the vestibule in 1 person 4 season tents, there isn't really enough airflow. It can be done BUT as a absolute minimum all the vents should be open.
@@BackpackingUK Thanks Andy for the reply, wellll noted. Would you say that out of ALL the tents you have tested, this is the best all-rounder? I live in Finland, so it is not exactly hot here..
Personally, I would say it probably would be the best single-pole tent suitable for Finland's climate.
@@BackpackingUK Thanks for the input, I’ve been fighting for months with ehat tent I would start my outdoors stuff with, but there is just too many good options! I have watched every single one of yours and Messner’s videos trying to come to a conclusion. But this Lazer AS has been on my mind for long, as it has enough headroom and good ventilation.
Keep up the good work with top videos Andy!
Not a patch on the Terra Nova Quasar. Though it is half the weight.
Weight is always the ultimate trade off imo. Lightweight tents aren't strong. Strong tents are heavy.
100% agree!
Good tent, I agree but it’s the old weight issue trade off. There are a few lighter weight tents that are super tough but it’s the old triangle: weight, cost, functionality. There are tents like some Hillebergs, Fjallraven, Crux etc etc but as the weight goes down and functionally you keep the criteria, the £ goes shooting up. It’s why I keep watching these video’s for that breakthrough. 🤞
@@chrishamilton2527 Right now I'm trying to decide between this AS and the Southern Cross 2. About 800 grams more for bigger tent, two doors, similar ventilation, extra pole for support (I camp in Scottish Highlands), bigger vestibule (two of them), and being freestanding means I can easily do maintenance indoors at home (I have no garden). Reading all that it sounds like a no brainer I should get the SC2 but it's more expensive and nearly a kilo heavier so it does balance them out for me. Problem is they're balanced too much, I can't decide haha
@@geneticjen9312 for me, the weight is absolutely critical - it really factors between a mission and enjoyment. Yes, two doors and vestibules are fantastic but for me it’s focussed on the weight and 800gms is also the weight of bigger bottle of Smart water. The lighter weight wins this for me.
I used to hike with 18-21kg with all the luxuries but it becomes too much when water and food were added.
I’m now closer to 10kg including water and food and suddenly it’s very enjoyable again. This goes up to 12 kg for winter with extra food and clothing but slightly less water (heavier sleep mat, extra thermals; change to warmer quilt). I still have a chair as well. Big change to get lighter was my cook set.
@@chrishamilton2527 I don't think there will ever be a "breakthrough". No ideal will be found between heavy & light.
I choose heavy, because it's reliable & shorten my walks to camp.
I think I have found my perfect tent . Thanks for the review .
If you do buy it, I don't think you'll regret it!
Lovely looking tent , and available at some amazing prices. A true 4 session tent, ventilation options look unreal,
You can genuinely use this tent all year round. I love all the guy points too!
Now I have my durstan mid 2 full inner so much roomier and cheaper! Lots more room and soo much lighter at 1100 grams. I agree maybe not for a wild winter but good enough for the weather and hikes I do. No poles to worry about just walking poles. You can get one from Canada £400 all in so I’m now biased towards this tent 😊
I really like my X-Mid 1P Solid. It's definitely less weather proof than this but much lighter. Trouble is, for people who don't use trekking poles you need to add that weight on.
I just had a chat about this tent with two separate people within one day when discussing tents. It's really tempting but the price tag is very steep...
You can ignore the £690 RRP. Use the link and code in the description to get 20% off (approx £550).
Ah £550 makes it so cheap especially when people have little money as it is these days and struggle with the cost of living…….
Thanks for the video. Lots of detail. Cheers 👍
I think it looks a bit challenging to cook inside it, with the door closed.
That's my main drawback. I always cook in my tent if it's windy and rainy. You can still do it, there just isn't as much space as I'd like.
600 quid and they're using bungee cord to attach the corners of the inner to the outer? WTF! Even my 60 quid OEX Phoxx 2 uses a better system than that, and it only weighs 400gms more! I personally think TN are taking the piss! 🤦🏻♂️
Agree, there’s no excuse. They still do this on most of their tents. Yes, it gives a more taut set up, but you require extra pegs.
Great tent mate I love my terra nova. I have the lazer all season compact 2 that is the 2022 model and stopped it and I think the as is a replacement. Thing is mine has 2 doors and dac poles so I think they went ott on it and changed it for some reason. Anyway still both cracking tents.
The Laser Compact All Seasons 2 was never a 2 person tent! I don't know why they even tried to pass it off as a 2P. It was still a great 1P tent though, this is the new version and they've kept similar dimensions, just dropped the 2P.
@Backpacking UK yeah defo not a 2 person I brought it as a 1p but better that it has 2 doors as wherever the wind is you have the ability to open another door. Also it's the quasar materials, so it's bit stronger.
I prefer my current three season compact 2. You can always make a colder tent warmer but not so much make a hot tent cooler. Give me double doors and extra ventilation any day.
@CazSmith on my 4 season you can remove the inner tent completely and just use the flysheet. Nice in hot weather
Nice one Andy looks cracking not sure about the colour 🤔
Cheers Graham
Personally I really like the dark green. Very similar to Hilleberg's dark green.
@@BackpackingUK
Hi Andy I thought it was black !
If it’s green then I would like it 👍
Cheers G
Great review!!!!!!
Thanks! 👍
At $600. it should be fine.
Great tent but to pricey for us average wild campers
But you must remember it’s ONLY £550 with the 20% Discount 🤣🤣🤣
As you say, way to pricey when the average Joe & families are struggling to make ends meet with the current cost of living crisis and the exorbitant Gas & Electricity prices.
There are more important things to deal with right now, never mind £690 for a Tent.
@@PokeEyeSlapSlap you can get a family tent for £550 it’s mental.
@@andypitt6250 absolutely pal. Be better off looking at Budget Equipment for viewers than showing off these expensive Tents etc in my opinion.
It’s up to the individual if they want to pay extortionate prices, but it does feel like one is getting their nose rubbed in it by showing what they can afford when the truth is most folk haven’t got a pot to piss in right now…..
Take Care buddy.
Awesome review as ever , need to save , maybe next year 😂 but thanks for sharing
Nice tent only problem i have don’t like low profile tents .Still got bike 🏍 pal
Yes, waiting for the good weather 😭
Is there a spec about the wind resistance? speed/gust...
I don't think Terra Nova release these specs.
Do those exist? I’m not sure that they do? So many variables to consider.
@@chrishamilton2527 I am using tents mostly in Alps, where wind resistant tent is essential. As the example... Robens uses airflow tests for their tents, like forever. At the momemt I am using Chaser 2, which is claimed with up to 200 km/h wind resistance... sure material, not bad pitching. So far I tested it with 70 km/h which is quite a blow.
@@mojaslovenija9903 that brilliant, I didn’t know anyone did that - or if they did is it from all angles. Thanks for the advice - I really appreciate it.
My Crux has faced severe winds and stood up to them without much fuss - I’ve really got confidence in it. By contrast my Z-Packs literally came apart at the mesh in a summer storm with 25 mph wind. Not very impressive. My Terra Nova is a great tent but I’m just physically too long for it. I’ll have a peek at Robens. Thanks for the update. Thanks go to Andy for providing this medium for us to chat.
Black tent is not for me. Why make it black, Also Terr Nova using cheap alloy poles and not leading poles from Easton or DAC, that tent s expensive for what it is in my opinion there is a lot better options for aa light weight back packing tent at less money. Small and heavy for its useable size.
It’s not black 🤦🏻♂️
@@BackpackingUK it's the darkest green I have ever seen if it's not black
It's very, very similar to the Hilleberg green.
Looks great but I'd never find it coming back from the pub.
😂😂😂
Did you really buy this tent with your own money?
100% 👍
So its just a coincidence that Abbie Barnes, Paul Messner and yourself all affiliated with Terra Nova have reviewed this same tent? I like seeing the gear reviews no matter what but I think people should be straight about this aspect. @@BackpackingUK
@@etztz123 It’s not coincidence, I purchased this the day it was released so my review was way before theirs. Check the dates for yourself! You can see me testing it in the Brecons way back before summer. Rubbish comments like this annoy me because I’m spending my own money. If you bothered to watch the channel properly you’d see me talking about reinvesting all my money back into it. Others just bank it all, then ask for Patreon, Memberships, Subscriptions, etc. They’re the ones laughing at you, not me.
@@BackpackingUK I dont really see why my comment is rubbish. Too many youtubers out there now all being furnished with free equipment in return for cheap advertising. The fact they obtain the equipment isnt my issue - I think they deserve it tbh. However, its the reviewing without stating whether they paid for it out of there own money or not which bothers me and for obvious reasons. (Bias reviews) I know you stated you used your own money but it just seemed coincidental, abbie barnes and others who are all affiliated with terra nova have reviewed this same product. I asked abbie the same question but she never responsed. Only Paul Messner on a recent vlog said he aproached Terra nova and asked if he could review this particular tent, so big respect to him for being honest. Perhaps others should follow with this transparency so viewers know wether reviews are genuine and unbiased.
Be careful with affiliations. I'm affiliated with Terra Nova so I can get 20% off for all my viewers. However, this doesn't mean I get a free TN tent turn up at my door every week!
Unless I'm not viewing correctly, how can a 4 season tent not have an outer that reaches the ground all around?
There isnt even a snow skirt?
Try that scenario out in a Cairngorm winter storm and you'll very soon realise its shortcomings. The outer weatherproofs the inner, its not rocket science....
Great tent but true 4 season? I think not, 4 season in 'soft' weather only.
It is a 4 season tent - not a "winter tent"... it is a difference.
@@mojaslovenija9903 so what's the 4th season then, if not winter?
@@alanhanley2981 Writing from my experience (200 days working field days as geographer), not the brand claims: four season tent can be used in any season: hot summer or cold winter, usually it is modular, great example are new Robens Chaser Series (offically claimed as three season tents but are actually four season - that's why I always trust european brands).
Winter tent is meant only for a winter, handling the snow weight, having insulation or proper mesh: as the example Ferino Solo tent and Helliberg BL series or tents brandes as "expedition" tents. Using winter tent in other seasons would be problematic, mostly due the condensation. But take that as my two Slovene-Euro cents... I use tents mostly in Alps.
@@mojaslovenija9903 Good point well made but I'll stick with my experience.
The irony of having to sell your house to be able to afford a tent.😅
😂😂😂
AGAIN... A black tent, wow you will cook in the summer months
1) it’s dark green
2) in the UK it’s illegal to wild camp so everyone pitches up just before dark
@@BackpackingUK My Bad... Looks black 🤐
helsport ringstind superlight 2 ; a much better tent imo, same same but 145 kilos. Helsport had this design for 20 years they know what they doing!! NORWEGIAN AS ME CANT BE WRONG
I see they sell it as a 3 season tent. Looks a great tent for better weather, this is more suited to adverse weather conditions hence the additional weight.
There prices have gone through the roof , there nowhere near as good as hilleberg and customer service is atrocious
Another great review.
Cheers 👍