Garmin CT10 & Epix Gen 2 ON COURSE TEST - This WILL Change Your Game!!
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Been using CT10’s with a lowly Garmin Venu watch for a couple of years, and overall I’m happy with it (I didn’t want a watch that was 100% focused on golf). I do think that Garmin could do a lot more development on the app to improve it though. Also, in this vid I don’t think you quite understood the putting stats. This is how you interpret it: of your short putts, you’re holing 80% of them and mopping up the other 20% in 2 putts. Of your medium length putts, you’re holing 36% of them, and mopping up 64% with your 2nd putt. On your long putts you’re holing 39% and the other 61% in 2 putts. You haven’t 3 putted any (short, medium or long). But early days, I’m sure 3 putts won’t stay at 0% for ever 🤣 Sorry mate!
Yes you’re right on the putting stats. Was going through these on the fly but it’s so good to be able to see those stats in that way 😊
@@davidmaxfieldgolf I’m a fairly new subscriber and enjoying your vids man. Cheers
@@cameronloveless1751 Thank you mate, much appreciated
I just picked up a used s60 and sensors. I’m happy to see at the end they compile the data and show you where you are falling short instead of having to process the data yourself. I’m hoping this gives me direction on where I need practice or lessons to improve my scores. Great video as always. 👍🏼
100%
I like the way the comparative stats are presented with this app. Very informative.
It’s good isn’t it 😊 very clear and easy to follow along with
Thank you for this incisive upload. It provided exactly the information that was so lacking on the Internet. I'm now leaning to not only add the CT10 to my clubs but I may add the full set due to the added convenience of never missing recording a club hit. I assume taking practice swings do not get recorded?
Yeah it’s great in not recording practise swings also. Sometimes you have to edit a couple of shots but that’s minimal and you can do it at the end of the round
I'm using the Ct10 and Garmin Approach S70 together and I really like that it tells me what club to use. Its still figuring things out here and there, occasionally ill get a 6I on a par 3 which of course i dont use, but its pretty cool. Ive only got 1 round in with the CT10, but probably 15-20 with the Garmin so there's defiantly more data to gather.
Yeah they’re great. Only issue I’ve found is that you can delete data very easily. So if you’ve punched out with an 8 iron 50m or so that goes towards your averages for an 8 iron. Or if you chip with a 9 iron around the greens etc
Glad to see you ended up getting the CT10s. They really are a great combination. Any ideas what cool gadgets Garmin will come up with next for golf?
Yeah very happy to have them on. And no doubt there will be more gadgets coming 😊
Great video overview. Much appreciated. I just bought the CT10's. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful 😁
Thanks for actually showing some epix golf content. Very hard to find! The watch app is the best one out there imo, but I wish they’d add more detail to the golf app.
Thank you mate, the detail is pretty comprehensive when you get the sensors. The chipping and putting stats are next level 😁
God damn that swing looks so unorthodox! Not sure if it’s the angle but looks so powerful and you’re flushing it! This isn’t a hate comment I’m just simply admiring the unique swing👍🏻
The swing is technically shit, let’s be honest lol 😂 but the results most of the time are good. So I’ll take that, I used to have a lot better technique but worse results. I don’t know why but this works haha 😆
Just received my CT10s and have a couple of comments. First, check your putter grip if you have an aftermarket grip. I didn’t and when I went to screw the sensor in, I discovered it was metal and could not be screwed.
More importantly, the software is old school. Club assignment options are only for 3 hybrid and 4 hybrid, ignoring the fact that sets down to 6 hybrid are not uncommon. You might think this is no big deal, but I suspect that lots of people carry a hybrid and conventional iron of the same number to avoid a gap in their bag. The software forces you to use an unassigned club to cover this. In the same vein, the options only have 3W and 5w to choose from. Lot of golfers like myself carry a 7w. Had to assign 5w to my 7w. You may think this is no big deal, but this is a premium product with a premium price and I expect better.
Lastly, it appear that you can only assign 14 clubs. So if you have a club or 2 for particular types of courses and wanted to add the starter set, it appear that you can’t without reassigning clubs.
I just expected better execution from Garmin.
Hi mate, I think you may be mistaken. You will need to setup your golf bag in the Garmin golf app and then those clubs will be available when pairing the sensors. For example it goes right down to a 25 wood.
Also with the putter you can cut the bottom part of the screw from the sensor and it will fit flush, I had to do that with mine.
So setup your golf bag in the Garmin Golf app and then you’ll be fine.
@@davidmaxfieldgolf I played with the app and figured out where I went wrong. When you go to pair your clubs, there is a list. However, you are not limited to that list, you can add to the list . I did not realize that. So I added to my list, waited for my watch to update (there was no immediate sync function) and corrected the names of my clubs. The only limitation appears to be that you can’t pair more than 14 clubs so adding a specialty club would require replacing a club. Thanks for the tip.
Now, on to more important matters. How did you attach the sensor to your putter? Glue? I can see cutting off the bottom of the sensor, but it would still be to be attached. Just curious how you did it.
Thanks
Thanks David. Bought the CT10s three weeks ago and like the data I gain. These do fall out of the grips occasionally. Any tips to keep them in after tightening? One guy on YT uses epoxy but if I get new grips, it’ll be a hassle to unglue them- Woody in Massachusetts
@@Woody54321 new grips help keep them in but you’re right they do sometimes come out. But if a flaw in the design unfortunately
I recently got the fenix 6 pro solar which has plays like unlike garmin fenix 5 I replaced. Got CT 10's 3 years ago. and has changed my game dramatically. I compare my distances to people who scope, and recently its half a yard off. Ill post on my Instagram of the comparison.
Love the CT10s and the Epix Gen 2 watch. Covers all my golf bases
already. got the s62 and r10. sooo tempted to complete the set, I'm mostly interested in better tracking for chipping and putting
They’re amazing, you won’t be disappointed
I’ve got the CT10’s and S62 watch but put the CT10’s on the shelf for a while. I bought the Arccos ones because of the better stats. The only problem is the Arccos sensors don’t work as good as the Garmin ones. I’m hoping Garmin will emulate (read copy) some of the Arccos stats graphics.
Also, is Awesome Golf a stand alone app? Someone was trying to tell me I needed Garmin Golf app running for Awesome Golf to work.
Thanks for the great content.
Hey Peter, I found the Garmin stats quite insightful 😊 in regards to awesome golf, yes you’ll need the Garmin golf app running in the background for the data to sync across 👍🏼
How did the app deal with the provisional? Did you have to tell the app you found your original ball?
you just delete the second shot
wow good stuff.. David reading through the comments here and your reviews really helped. a new subscriber here.. i plan to get the CT10 to pair with my approach G12, Its gonna be fun..
one question David, if i do not adjust the pint( because its a hassle) can i still track it( with CT10 on my putter)
usually i eyeball the pin based on flag color and make my own assumptions when approaching TBH i can't hit to 10m accurate :P
Thanks and welcome to the channel, you can use it without adjusting the pin but it will throw out your approach stats. So best to move the pin
Hi David, thank you for your detail review. Could you let us know how does the Garmin record the provisional shot? Do you need to selection the shot from your watch so the system know which one is the provisional shot ?
All done automatically through the ct10 censors
I use the Epix Gen 2 and the cr10 sensors. Mostly because I want my chips and puts to be recorded automatically. They won’t be recorded without the sensors, at least not reliably.
One great recent development…the Epix has been updated to have the same “plays like” metrics that came with the new S70 golf watch. That’s awesome for me. I can stop wanting the s70 now.
the Epix Gen 2 is probable the best all round watch I've ever used. I can imagine the epix pro is probably even better!
@@davidmaxfieldgolf the pro may be better but I just got this Epix in the spring so the pro would have to be head and shoulders above the Epix 2 for me to fork out the cash for another watch. I don’t even want to look at the pro and get myself envious
The Epix Gen 2 is amazing
@@Garysalunatic
@@davidmaxfieldgolfyes it is! I got the Epix and the s62 at the same time to compare. The Epix does so much more that it was a no brainer.
I've had the CT10's - very accurate but the tags are quite big compared to say shotscope. Also they have batteries which will need replacing after a time. They are also more expensive than shotscope for a full set.
I didn’t find them very big, also the batteries are only cheap and will last for ages as they have a smart on off function 😊 my accuracy with them has been spot on too and because I can use them with my watch I don’t have to have my phone out all the time. Can’t stand the other ones where you phone has to be open or running the program for them to work
Shotscope use with a v3 watch as well
great honest review. thanks!
Cheers Joseph
Short putts- you make 80%, that leaves the other 20% for a two putt
Correct
I’ve had Arccos for a few years now, currently on the gen3 with a subscription. Love having the stats and the caddy.
After seeing the S70 I’m seriously considering switching over along with the CT10s. Just seems so seamless. No need for pulling out my iPhone or an Arccos Link on my belt. And I LOVE the idea of being able to see the green contours for approach.
Any thoughts on Arccos VS the S70?
CT10s are so much better. I have a set of the Arccos sensors still unopened in the box. They want you to have the subscription and then you still have to use your phone on the course which I don’t like unless you get the clip thing which again is an extra cost.
The CT10s are so much better and no subscription needed and you don’t need your phone at all. Just pair to a watch
Hi Dave
New to the channel and new golfer to. But im a data nerd 🤓
1st time out on a course today after 6months and thousands of balls on the driving range its was time to try the real deal.
Hooked 😂
Obviously being new i dont think i need to get a full set of these cr10s but i noticed on my epix pro (mainly ultra running and hiking use) it doesnt pick up putting very well so one of these sensors is a must on a putter... If i bought a set of 3 (for now) what other 2 clubs would you suggest they went on.
Thanks 🙏🏼
I would go driver, then whatever the most common club is on your approach shots and then putter 👌🏼👍🏼
Striping those irons, playing well. Loving the content
Thank you mate 😊
What graphite shafts did you end up getting weight and flex and what not ? Been thinking of trying some and seeing how they feel.
@@CousinVinny03 I got the MMT X flex and they’re amazing
Very nice, thanks for the reply. I’ll check them out!
Went and bought the st pots as well. Wen with stiff dynamic gold and man I love these things! Had 12 year old Adams golf clubs and man these are forgiving and I gained 15-20 yards on everything.
Well after watching this video I decided to order a set for my Callaway Paradym X and Fenix 7X. It paired up ok but haven't golf yet, so we'll see this up coming Saturday on how it performs. I wonder how it'll do for a bad golfer lol. I am curious, how long does the batteries last? I'm gonna get some extra just in case.
batteries in the CT10's or the watch? I've had my CT10's for almost a year and haven't needed to replace them and my Epix Gen2 watch lasts about 6 days :)
Great video!
Thank you
Nice video!! Do you need to pay the App Membership for the whole Caddy info?
Nope all standard 👌🏽😊
Hey David- question. Do you manually move the pin on your watch before the approach shot (or before a par 3)? I'm really trying to figure out how it could possibly know how accurate the approach, chips and putts are without doing this.
Yes correct manually move the pin on the approach shots for sure 👍🏼
I have a Forerunner 965 and it has the same golf features as your Epix Gen 2, both with no virtual caddy. I see that your watch has the virtual caddy feature and wanted to know if the CT10 brought this option?
CT10 definitely helps but the caddy is available without it
Looks a nice bit of kit Dave 👍
It’s amazing
@@davidmaxfieldgolf I do like a nice watch...Debi has the S42 and loves it.
So much information available for her, it's definitely improved her game and what she practices on 👍
@@KentnDebi you should definitely look at getting one
How does ct10 know if it’s a short putt or a long putt? Do you need to change flag location on watch?
Yes you can adjust the flag location on your watch
Great video am I right in saying that if you have CT10 on all clubs you don’t have to score your round it automatically does it for you
100% 😁👍🏼
David, is the CT10's bothering you while using the clubs, and can you put the clubs in your bag with the CT10's attached? Won't it damage the sensors?
@@eduanwessels4292 no doesn’t bother me at all, don’t even notice them really and they don’t get damaged. They’re a hard plastic 😁
If you have a special bag that lock the clubs like some OGIO that sensor can remain at the bottom. I am pretty sure that it happened in a normal bag too once, be aware that even with a brand new grip you will have at least one sensor that would like to go. Be cautious or glue it.
Hi David
Just wondering if you can show the green contour feature on the epix please? as it would help justify buying this watch for me, I’ve read the forums saying the 8.18 update now has it available through the garmin golf app+subscription needed.. however I can’t find any content proving so.
Cheers
Can do mate and coming up. I’ll do a video on this soon 😁
Would also like to see this feature, starting to fall for the epix!
Why i can only add 13 sensors on Epix2 setting
Should be able to add 14
I'm thinking about getting a garmin watch, but adding sensors is pricey!... do you need to get the sensors to get the performance data? like shots gained stats, and so on? or can you manually input every shot on your watch and get the same information?
In other words, I feel that the only thing sensors do is basically track the shots automatically vs doing it manually on your watch. Am I correct?
Thank you for sharing with us your experience!
You can manually do it but you get a lot more data with the sensors like approach average distance to pin and putting etc
@@davidmaxfieldgolf Thank you! Would you mind doing a video comparison of the experience with vs without the CT10 sensors using your garmin watch?
Which grips have worked best with the CT10s to prevent them from falling off? I have used two different grips (Winn Dri-tac and Golf Pride MCC) that don’t seem to work so great with the sensors. The sensors would come loose with the Winn grips, and the sensors just completely fly off the Golf Pride grips.
I’ve used golfpride grips and they seem fine. You could just tac them in with a dot of super glue
Definitely will need to try that out!
Just check them and tighten them up, they work loose with use.
I tried 3 brand of grip, superglue (a little drop)is the best solution except for the putter because I don’t want to waste an expensive grip
Hi david, can the watched be linked to the r10 data to use your stats for the vertual caddie?
Off the Garmin R10 range sessions is can yes
8:43 Mate you just need some gardening clippers. I won't tell anyone :p
Lol would have helped 😂
So I’ve seen a video where they claim the sensors don’t last and will just die pretty quickly. Are you still using them? Have you found they die. I’m. It talking about battery the device dies and needs to be replaced. Thanks.
My have lasted well over a year with no issues, eventually the batteries will need to be replaced but they give you a tool to open the sensor and change the battery so that’s not really an issue 😁
How does it differentiate between a warmup swing and a real swing?
Vibrations into the ball I guess, not entirely sure but I do know it’s incredibly accurate
I believe you need to take your practice swings over the ball and it will take the latter swing as the GPS on the watch tracks you to your ball to read the distance once you have hit your shot.
Thanks for the video it was very informative and great for stats. Given Christmas is coming up is there any chance of a discount code from Garmin for the Approach® CT10 Full Set?
Thank you mate. Unfortunately not directly but a lot of golf shops like golf box and Drummond golf here in Aus have started their Christmas sales 😁
Thx for this. Using Arccos now but subscription is very expensive after the first year.
Is there any subscription fee for the Garmin? I am already using a compatible garmin watch ....
Nope no subscriptions needed
@@davidmaxfieldgolf Cool. That's much better than.
Great review!!. What shaft using in your 3w?
It’s a MMT x stiff 👍🏼
David do you know if you can use the CT10s just on your mobile (with the Garmin app) or does it need to be on a Garmin watch?
That’s a great question. I think you may need a watch but let me check it out for you and I’ll get back to you 😊
Do the CT10's count practice swings?
No it doesn’t. Thats the great thing about them
Hi, thanks for the review, I'm torn between these and the shotscope tags, only reason I believe is for me sometimes I like to use my 8i from 60-80yrds out also around the greens for bump and runs, so with shotscope they account for that in stats but with CT10 would doing this mess up your average yardage when looking at the stats?
My average yardages are pretty spot on and once you’ve got enough shots in there that becomes less and less of an issue. You can also unassign the club for those shots so it doesn’t effect the averages and still leave the shot in there 👍🏼
@@davidmaxfieldgolf So would it be worth getting if you know your numbers, or do you then use it for accuracy for tee to green?
@@dafyddgould9485 it shows you a whole lot more stats then just numbers. It’s become a really important piece of tech for me
@@davidmaxfieldgolf brilliant, maybe a Xmas pressie from family lol( work well with my S62), just need to try and sort out mu launch angle and early release then jobs a good one lol
Many thanks and love the reviews
@@dafyddgould9485 thank you mate, you’ll love them 😁
do they have this feature for the s62 garmin watch as well?
Which feature?
I guess the ct10s are durable and stay on in the bag.
Yeah absolutely, they screw in to the end of your grip
Ct10s are crazy expensive 14 costs as much as a Garmin watch, right?
$499 for a full set in Australia 🇦🇺
How does the watch know where the Pin/Hole is?
You can move the pin on the watch
@@davidmaxfieldgolf I just started playing again this year and I'm using the GolfShot iPhone app and Apple Watch series 8. Wouldn't it be great if courses uploaded the GPS coords of the pin placements and all of the apps had access to that data?
Great review David. I’ve been using the Arccos system for the last few years, but since my subscription lapsed, looking to see if I want to switch over to another system…have you used Arccos? If so, how do you compare them? I have a Z82 range finder in the mail, so wondering also if this system would link up with the GPS aspect of the Z82? Thanks again and I can’t wait for the day when I mis-hit and not get all of a 4 iron and it goes 210! LOL…
Personally I love the CT10s and I think they’re amazing. You don’t have to think about it at all. Just go and play and it collects all the data for you then you can just review it later. Amazing for the golf game 😁
Hey! Was posting on your Z82 vid and got into the discussion on Arccos v CT10, so watched this again…a couple of questions. 1. When you re-loaded on that one hole and hit a provisional, how did the Garmin deal with that? 2. When you brought the extra club with you to chip, how did it deal with that? Great review…I don’t know why I thought you had to tap the CT10 to a sensor to indicate the club…maybe that was another sensor…these look very similar to what Arccos does BUT without the annual subscription. As soon as my Arccos annual subscription is up this year, these are probably going on the clubs.
How to make ball tracking as your video?
I use the shot tracer app on Mac 💻
Hi David, I have the Garmin approach G12, will it work the same as the watch you used?
If it has access to the sensors then in essence yes but the watch also includes a lot of its own functions too. Stats should be similar but the actual watch functions will be different
Thank you Sir, and yes it can accommodate the sensors. Im ordering mine today. Thanks.
you didn't show the watch face during the round, and what you had to press before or after each shot
With the CT10 censors you don’t need to press anything before or after any shot 😁 but below is the video where I go through all of the features. The golf starts at 10:27
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How are you doing the pin placements?
You can move the pin around in the Garmin Epix Gen 2 watch and all of the Garmin Golf Watches
Cool. Had read somewhere that you need to do this otherwise the stats work off the centre of the green
@@timherbert yeah which is still not bad for approach shots but for putting it’s better to move the pin
You call that wind??
Always harder to tell on camera with good mics
So the ct10s basically just removes the need to tell the watch what club you hit for each shot right?
Not just that. It adds approach proximity to hole and putting stats which is pretty huge
Great content, I use shot scope at the moment, does the ct10 pick all the shots up , my shot scope not always great have to edit all the time not picking shots up 🏌🏻
They Really are great value sensors and with no subscription it's a good budget option.