have fun with presets. this tutorial is for those of you who get that special feeling inside from making things yourself. it's YOURS and no one can take that away.
Evan Sutton aka Astrolith always informative and helpful and I watched this to see what he did differently from what I do and wow a lot better. So simple :-)
you would see the fundamental of your sound to be at 45-60 Hz, indicated by a big bump in that area on your spectral analyzer. the punchy/clicky attack bit at the beginning of the kick would be higher up in the spectrum, which could be anything in the 500Hz-6kHz region
Another good way to do this in ableton is just take an 808 kit, and take the kick, increase the glue, mess with the other settings however you want, but turn the pitch to about +2 or +3 and it gives a really nice sub bass kick sound that is used in a lot of electronic trap.
Cool vid. one thing I would say its probably better to use the mono-rotate setting rather than mono. using the mono-rotate setting cross fades two voices in rotation to remove clicks that may happen when low end notes cut each other off. Also maybe a good idea to key sync the OSC as well to keep the attack nice and consistent.
I'll have to check out that plugin...I thought you were referring to a Massive preset. I didn't mean to come off pretentious. There's something special about making your own sounds...plain and simple.
with these "super low" sub bass kick where should you expect it to hit? When I make em I go like 45-60hrz but like what should i expect to see on a spectral analyzer???
Very useful video. I tried to replicate it and got an issue though. When i throw a default Massive instance in ableton and do the exact steps you show at the begining of the video, if i use a "Sin-Squ" on Osc 1 i don`t get the sound you are showing in the video. it is grittier. in order for me to get close to your sound example (which sounds a bit 808`y) i need to choose "Sin-Tri" waveform on Osc 1. I can`t explain it.
could it be that you have a Lpf on the massive channel? i get similar but not the same results when doing 1 to 1 what you show. I must be missing something
i am new to this excuse my noobishness however i am wondering what actual sound did you start with in logic before editing it in massive to get the deeper tone? an 808 kick?
Hey guys, I have this little problem. I can't seem to reach the... "subby" effect in my mix. It sounds like it lacks the resonating effect, like my subwoofer doesn't resonate like it does while playing other tracks (professionally mastered of course). I know it is a problem of my mixdown, but any tip from you would be really nice. I don't even know the proper terminology, lol. Thanks in advance.
Great tutorial, but I'm facing huge problems with what appears to be a very slow LFO that's creating a phasing issue every 5 or 6 hits, depending on how I play with the envelopes. The transient basically drops out and back in. Could anyone offer advise on what may be causing this? Cheers.
Been fooling around with this approach for quite a while and I can't seem to get an odd glide between notes happening occasionally. I'm set to Monophonic, so I think it might have something to do with my ADSR settings but when I go from a low sub bass up to a higher note/tone I get this weird 'BUUUOOOONG!' pitching upward to the next note. Any thoughts would be super helpful! Thanks.
make sure your glide knob isn't all the up in the oscilator tab and your voices both (16 - 1) are set to (1 - 1) and yeah monophonic or try poly and see what your result sound is.
Hmm. I learned something new. Trap was not an Aprils joke, It is actually a music style. So basically all that music young people listen to when they blow they ear drums in a jumping cars was not called rap. It was a trap.
What's you're point? I already understand and agree with everything you're saying lol. And yeah, LUNICE is dope. electronic trap music is not "brand new" or anything like that, it's just gained a lot more popularity in 2013 probably because of harlem shake blowing up as a stupid meme and trends like twerking and shit.
this is only a punch layer for kick drum, its good if u need for this type of music , but for dubstep or drum n bass or even a house or other genre where kick must shake da danceflloor not only hit da woofer u need more "glide'y". But thanks for goodo tutorial :) big up
Fair enough dude. I like both but trap now is just too different from hop-hop to be called the same thing. It would be liked comparing ilbient to ambiental to me.
i have! but call it trap, its all hip hop to me! just because its a newer twist of hip hop i dont think that it needs a new name... and even if ppl call it trap, it still is hip hop!
no no no.. trap music has been in the making since gucci mane and T.I and all the other "dirty south" rappers were making trap songs years back in like 02-06.. trap music is just that southern sound of rap. edm trap and "electrap" are sub genres from the real trap music.. edm trap has been around for years too. LUNICE is one of the originators for edm trap.. wayyy before those lex luger sound packs LOL
Awesome video, Evan. Each Dubspot tut I watch gets me that much closer to enrolling.
finally a tutorial where a person knows what he is doing
I have been looking for a video like this for a very long time! Thanks a lot!
Roney Smith hey heres a no talking video for the same vst th-cam.com/video/LXl-zb8ydIU/w-d-xo.html
Maftsis R Thanks a lot! 🙏🏾
Thanks for the tutorial! I always enjoy Dubstop tutorials!
You have no idea how many doors you've opened for me with this video!! Thx!
this is definitely one of the most useful tutorials I've seen yet thank you for sharing and many blessings your way :)
Big ups dubspot! You guys are always on par!
That short 'Tom Tom Club Wordy Rappinghoody' chord you play at 10:18 and 10:22, is that also a sound from Massive?
no. this is something I do for tutorials especially so that the sound is at a nice level for people on laptop speakers, etc.
have fun with presets.
this tutorial is for those of you who get that special feeling inside from making things yourself. it's YOURS and no one can take that away.
Evan Sutton aka Astrolith always informative and helpful and I watched this to see what he did differently from what I do and wow a lot better. So simple :-)
you would see the fundamental of your sound to be at 45-60 Hz, indicated by a big bump in that area on your spectral analyzer. the punchy/clicky attack bit at the beginning of the kick would be higher up in the spectrum, which could be anything in the 500Hz-6kHz region
Another good way to do this in ableton is just take an 808 kit, and take the kick, increase the glue, mess with the other settings however you want, but turn the pitch to about +2 or +3 and it gives a really nice sub bass kick sound that is used in a lot of electronic trap.
That crunchy square wave kick sounds nice.
We think so too ;)
Cool vid.
one thing I would say its probably better to use the mono-rotate setting rather than mono. using the mono-rotate setting cross fades two voices in rotation to remove clicks that may happen when low end notes cut each other off. Also maybe a good idea to key sync the OSC as well to keep the attack nice and consistent.
Really great tutorial really helpful and everything is explained really clear! Awesome you won a sub :)
If massive is not the best at this, what is best for it?
Serum is better
Thank you so much. Really great tutorial.
How did you link it to the kick drum? Great video!
one thing that i think should be mentioned, in the oscillator tab, click restart via gate! that will make it more crisp sounding more often.
thanks for uploading. used this in my latest songs.
NOW THAT'S AN 808 BASSLINE!!! HANDS DOWN!!!
Do you usually mix with a maximizer in your master fx chain?
I'll have to check out that plugin...I thought you were referring to a Massive preset.
I didn't mean to come off pretentious. There's something special about making your own sounds...plain and simple.
with these "super low" sub bass kick where should you expect it to hit? When I make em I go like 45-60hrz but like what should i expect to see on a spectral analyzer???
Perfect Tutorial. Thank you!! Massive is great because it uses so little CPU,
Very useful video. I tried to replicate it and got an issue though. When i throw a default Massive instance in ableton and do the exact steps you show at the begining of the video, if i use a "Sin-Squ" on Osc 1 i don`t get the sound you are showing in the video. it is grittier. in order for me to get close to your sound example (which sounds a bit 808`y) i need to choose "Sin-Tri" waveform on Osc 1. I can`t explain it.
could it be that you have a Lpf on the massive channel? i get similar but not the same results when doing 1 to 1 what you show. I must be missing something
Great tutorial!
Great video!
hey is there a way to reverse a sound in massive?
Note to self "Be more critical, especially on wikipedia, check the date "This page was last modified on 1 April 2013 at 07:28.""
i am new to this excuse my noobishness however i am wondering what actual sound did you start with in logic before editing it in massive to get the deeper tone? an 808 kick?
+Ba MA'AT he just started with a blank massive patch, no underlying sound :) (this is probly way too late but i had the same question)
Hey guys, I have this little problem. I can't seem to reach the... "subby" effect in my mix. It sounds like it lacks the resonating effect, like my subwoofer doesn't resonate like it does while playing other tracks (professionally mastered of course). I know it is a problem of my mixdown, but any tip from you would be really nice. I don't even know the proper terminology, lol. Thanks in advance.
Dan Dvořáček try and get it more subby by adding presence in the mix or taking away the resonance, if you add more gain and bass that will work too :)
Great tutorial, but I'm facing huge problems with what appears to be a very slow LFO that's creating a phasing issue every 5 or 6 hits, depending on how I play with the envelopes. The transient basically drops out and back in. Could anyone offer advise on what may be causing this? Cheers.
make sure you have restart via gate on in the OSC tab, that should do!
Thanks dude, I've got it sorted. Amazing how in years I never had a use for that button... embarrassing :)
Been fooling around with this approach for quite a while and I can't seem to get an odd glide between notes happening occasionally. I'm set to Monophonic, so I think it might have something to do with my ADSR settings but when I go from a low sub bass up to a higher note/tone I get this weird 'BUUUOOOONG!' pitching upward to the next note. Any thoughts would be super helpful! Thanks.
make sure your glide knob isn't all the up in the oscilator tab and your voices both (16 - 1) are set to (1 - 1) and yeah monophonic or try poly and see what your result sound is.
Separate the playing of the notes, even by a 64th. If your glide is off, it shouldn't be happening, but perhaps another setting is amiss.
ooh my god this is exactly what i need ! :)
***** ;)
thankyou for this. great help!
what is a sign table? i know sinus and cosinus
I think that wikipedia just fooled me :D "This page was last modified on 1 April 2013 at 07:28"
The rap genre you are referring to has been called trap since like 2005.
The kicks?
Hmm. I learned something new. Trap was not an Aprils joke, It is actually a music style. So basically all that music young people listen to when they blow they ear drums in a jumping cars was not called rap. It was a trap.
thumbs up for BAM BAM BAM at 1:50 !
sir,, you are awesome..
Good good instruction, nice nice...
yeah other then that its 2 completly diferent things right?
What's you're point? I already understand and agree with everything you're saying lol. And yeah, LUNICE is dope. electronic trap music is not "brand new" or anything like that, it's just gained a lot more popularity in 2013 probably because of harlem shake blowing up as a stupid meme and trends like twerking and shit.
Note to self#2 "If you reply to yourself, the message actually gets in your inbox.." "
I subbed because of the grime reference that was right
whats up with the subtitles?
awesome!
this is only a punch layer for kick drum, its good if u need for this type of music , but for dubstep or drum n bass or even a house or other genre where kick must shake da danceflloor not only hit da woofer u need more "glide'y". But thanks for goodo tutorial :) big up
0:13 He looks SOO much like a GTA IV Character in that scene!
THANK YOU
Thanks!!
lol sounds like Sonia from Mortal Kombat gettin punched in the FACE by an 808!
lol at annotations @4:48
Ha is Ring By Bell not one of the greatest tracks ever. Was thinking the exact same thing when you played that.
This is incredible! Thank you so much
...make sure you've brought your life preserver?
my 1808th favorite vid lol
I need to buy new speakers, thanks for clarifying that :)
Lol Im just here to figure out how to come up with something like that fucking insane second drop sub kick Kayzo has going in Wake Up
Fair enough dude. I like both but trap now is just too different from hop-hop to be called the same thing. It would be liked comparing ilbient to ambiental to me.
The pitch envelop is confusing, visually... its attack slope does not sound what it looks like... unless that is one of the fastest env ive ever seen
trap is a very old hiphop genre, not that i know anything else than that but... you know ;)
Well yeah isn´t it obvious right now? Early trap is essentially hip-hop. But have you heard what trap sounds like nowdays?
thank for this! i use it make a sexy drum!
FINALLY!!! :D
My headphones clearly aren't up for this!
this video made me feel insecure about my subwoofer :(
Same about my monitors, I swear something's up with the video
I'm wearing skullcandy crushers, and I can't even hear that sub
i have! but call it trap, its all hip hop to me! just because its a newer twist of hip hop i dont think that it needs a new name... and even if ppl call it trap, it still is hip hop!
@ 40duce everywhere
Yeah! Realising how crappy my sound system actually is XDXD
as a lazybone like me i would just sample the sub kick in this vdo lol
No because I´m happy.
808's like
rubberband man TI.
yo microwave sound funny
no no no.. trap music has been in the making since gucci mane and T.I and all the other "dirty south" rappers were making trap songs years back in like 02-06.. trap music is just that southern sound of rap. edm trap and "electrap" are sub genres from the real trap music.. edm trap has been around for years too. LUNICE is one of the originators for edm trap.. wayyy before those lex luger sound packs LOL
annoying "melody"
GREAT TUTORIAL!!!!!!!!