Something I never got about Russo's booking was that he wanted a show that a new viewer could come across and be hooked, but when people are making insider jokes/references/terms all the time, how is someone new supposed to follow along?
To put it bluntly, Russo is one of the many insufferable stereotypical idiots who believe themselves to be far more intelligent then they actually are, to the point where accepting accountability becomes extinct ,because they can do no wrong in their eyes.
I mean Vince Russo did create the Attitude era. Not all of his ideas were terrible. He dd pretty well when he had people under him to help filter out some of his crazier ideas. The fact is though that Vince Russo was often one of the only people actually willing to try new and different shit.
@@Noobie2k7”created the Attitude era” JFC he did not make the NWO, did not make DX, and sure as shit did not make Stone Cold or the Rock. In fact, the latter two had to push through Russo’s dogshit crash TV to remain and become established superstars, respectively, through their all time great work.
That’s how it goes when you tell your audience that they were stupid to care about years of match results, title lineages, etc., all because you couldn’t figure out how to write a story where you put the belts on the people you wanted to have them from the people they were on. It’s one thing to write a boring TV show. It’s one thing to put on bad matches. It’s a whole other thing to be unable to fulfill the baseline function of storytelling. But that’s Russo, he proved in his 1999 run that he absolutely could not get from a sensible point A to a sensible point B in his storylines. And if you did manage to be raised up the card, it would go along with being made to look like a complete idiot, or a loser with no friends, such that no one can possibly root for you.
Fun fact: Apparently the WWF didn't take Konnan because he kept only referring to himself as "K-Dawg" during his phone calls to Bruce Prichard who just told him to send some tapes and pictures.
I'm pretty sure Bruce just covered for Vince on that one, who probably didn't want to bring konnan in because he was still mad about the max moon gimmick being wasted. Vince is petty like that and Richard used his podcast to angle back in WWE so I'd take what he says with a grain of salt sometimes.
Henderson Variety was so great that TH-cam algorithms started showing his wrestling videos on my feed. In his first run, he managed to get over 25k subscribers from those short videos. It is a real shame that his account has closed multiple times and has not recovered since then.
The part where Tony just said "I'm the new blood unleashed" as Pulse perc angle'd in response back and forth for an hour is pretty avantgarde, but I appreciate a little experimentation. 10/10.
@@5150scottie5150 me too, I was subscribed and everything and one day I didn't see any of his videos and in my liked videos one of my most recent liked videos was deleted.
I just checked and sadly Shane was not apart of the talks to go the WWF at that time actually though for Konan he was leaving is just Prichard did not know who he was actually.
Yeah and from what I heard konan kept calling himself k-dog when he was calling the WWE guys. Seemed kinda odd and unprofessional. Good news though, Konan is great in Mexico.
Jeff Jarrett was NEVER a World Champion......making him a champion in WCW was an awful idea......he was a decent wrestler, but he was NEVER a main event World Champion level guy. Making him WCW champ gave him the idea to start his own company and of course, ratings and growing to be a competitior, to WWE be damned, instead he made himself World Champion over and over and over while TNA suffered for it. Every time a guy became champ that TNA could have built with (AJ Styles, Raven, Christian) Jarrett just had to come in and get the title back playing superman in his wins. IC title or US TItle was fine, but he should have been no where near any World Heavyweight Title EVER.
Everybody has that one wrestler they hate with a passion, mines always been jarret... that guitar is so cheap and fake looking... he pushed me away from wcw, tna, and now hes in aew like wtf
Not trying to be controversial, but I have heard thru an old Wrestletalk interview with Benoit, that when he him and the rest of the radicalz asked for their release, there 10 people originally who were wanting their release and when it came down to actually going into the office, their were 5 people who actually asked for it, and when it came to making things official, only the radicalz were wanting to actually leave. There's also a story Chavo Guerrero had, that on the day of asking for the release, eddie got to the building late and just say benoit, malenko and others, hd didn't know what was gonna happen but we wanted to go, and so did chavo, but eddie talked him out of leaving saying there's still alot for chavo to do in WCW.
Vince Russo really is the worst person to ever book a wrestling show. Every idea he ever had was dogshit terrible. Bischoff was a really bad booker who had one good idea that he stole and ran into the ground. Vince McMahon was an out of touch senile weirdo for 30 years with zero good ideas and somehow McMahon and bischoff look like geniuses compared to Russo.
Talking about Vince wanting shit at the 5:00 mark. The more things change the more they stay the same
Thought the same things. Deadlock knew. 😂😂
@@jeremyvanb821they definitely knew😂😂
I JUST PUT THAT TOGETHER OH MY GOD 😭
Something I never got about Russo's booking was that he wanted a show that a new viewer could come across and be hooked, but when people are making insider jokes/references/terms all the time, how is someone new supposed to follow along?
To put it bluntly, Russo is one of the many insufferable stereotypical idiots who believe themselves to be far more intelligent then they actually are, to the point where accepting accountability becomes extinct ,because they can do no wrong in their eyes.
Because vince Russo is not very smart
@@GabeAllz57 b. P vb b< _y
I mean Vince Russo did create the Attitude era. Not all of his ideas were terrible. He dd pretty well when he had people under him to help filter out some of his crazier ideas. The fact is though that Vince Russo was often one of the only people actually willing to try new and different shit.
@@Noobie2k7”created the Attitude era” JFC he did not make the NWO, did not make DX, and sure as shit did not make Stone Cold or the Rock. In fact, the latter two had to push through Russo’s dogshit crash TV to remain and become established superstars, respectively, through their all time great work.
Fucking insane that over 600,000 people saw this nitro and said “I’m never gunna let you try that again. No. More. Times.”
You are done. No more chances, you can't get away with this 😂!!
That’s how it goes when you tell your audience that they were stupid to care about years of match results, title lineages, etc., all because you couldn’t figure out how to write a story where you put the belts on the people you wanted to have them from the people they were on.
It’s one thing to write a boring TV show. It’s one thing to put on bad matches. It’s a whole other thing to be unable to fulfill the baseline function of storytelling. But that’s Russo, he proved in his 1999 run that he absolutely could not get from a sensible point A to a sensible point B in his storylines. And if you did manage to be raised up the card, it would go along with being made to look like a complete idiot, or a loser with no friends, such that no one can possibly root for you.
Huh?
Millions of people
@@MBM1117727I think he means because the ratings dropped by 600k or so people moving forward
What's crazy about this time period is 16 DAYS LATER, David Arquette would win the world title...
WCW in the year 2000 was wildin
Fun fact: Apparently the WWF didn't take Konnan because he kept only referring to himself as "K-Dawg" during his phone calls to Bruce Prichard who just told him to send some tapes and pictures.
Dude, what a mark! 😂😂 That's fucking funny
There is no way that story isn't a fucking rib by Prichard. He says eddie straightened him out but then... nothing?
if brucie said it, it must be true!! 🙄
I'm pretty sure Bruce just covered for Vince on that one, who probably didn't want to bring konnan in because he was still mad about the max moon gimmick being wasted. Vince is petty like that and Richard used his podcast to angle back in WWE so I'd take what he says with a grain of salt sometimes.
@@k1ngk0ff1ng8that’s exactly what happened
5:53
"Do you really think Vince Mcmahon would really eat shit and have a club?"
Well we all know the answer to that 😂
Yoooooo that 100th episode was fucking incredible!!!! Much love fellas, congrats on all your success!!! Proud Hogdipper here, SKEEWOOOAAAHHHHH
Wait a rock solid minute...James...WITH THE DOUBLE CHAINS! I guess he's built different since winning the AEW GM tournament
Dual chains for our boy
@paisca94 the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for Jawnny and Tony on Deadlock!
4:38 The Vince McMahon Shit In My Mouth Club.
prophetic.
if Tony Khan came to the ring and told everyone to hand in their title belts, it would look like the ECW chair throwing incident
R U insulting AEW title belts?
@@JohnAlex-85001 Probably, but more possibly, the amount of titles 😂
bro that henderson channel has been suggested to everyone who likes wrestling apparently lol
Henderson Variety was so great that TH-cam algorithms started showing his wrestling videos on my feed.
In his first run, he managed to get over 25k subscribers from those short videos.
It is a real shame that his account has closed multiple times and has not recovered since then.
@@PLUX4 its really sad, i'll still support him
… HENDERSOOOOON.
WCW Nitro in 2000: exists
Vince Russo, planning a reboot: Imma let you try that, ONE MORE TIME
That line about Vince wanting 💩 on his mouth and liking it....REALLY hits different NOW!!!😂😂😂
'Hey Janet, piss yourself and piss on me and let me piss on you' - brock lesnar
2:02 tony passes james the drink
😮 oh.... Oh my fucking god...
*Hits Blunt* 🤯
Hogan: "I'm not juicy enough yet dude."
LOL 🤣🤣.
45:25 This is what you all came to see, Awesome Special Appearance by No One Finer, Then Scotty Steiner 😏😏
I mean being late was Nash's gimmick.
Something he'd actually say on a later episode of Nitro 😂
5:02 predicting the future Simpsons-style.
5:15 those shit jokes did NOT age well 😂😂😂😂
41:04... Jawnnys laugh cures Depression 😁
Billy Kidman is the only man to get 3 consecutive pin falls on Hulk Hogan if I remember correctly.
The only kid man*
It worked for him, BROTHER!!
The disrespect of Shane Dougles... May as well have called him "Shame" Douglas, throughout 😂
4:35 aged so beautifully 😂😂😂😂 lmfaooo you can’t tell me these mfs didn’t already know 😂
I IMMEDIATELY ran to the comments to see if anyone else pointed that out lmao
All this Vince shit talk is creepily relevant in 2024
The thumbnail looks like Steiner is doing a 1960s Asian impression.
4:57 this segment is even crazier now, after we found out that vince likes poop play 😳
75 minutes of silence. Hell of a rib boys.
The part where Tony just said "I'm the new blood unleashed" as Pulse perc angle'd in response back and forth for an hour is pretty avantgarde, but I appreciate a little experimentation. 10/10.
😂😂😂bro I think your phone volume is messed up
Your Scott Steiner impression has me crying laughing!!!
This thumbnail is absolutely haunting
2:20 Hell Yeah, Shout out to Ol' Tombstone Torrie
2:34 that channel got deleted, probably because of copyright.
I loved that channel lol
@@5150scottie5150 me too, I was subscribed and everything and one day I didn't see any of his videos and in my liked videos one of my most recent liked videos was deleted.
You guys are the most entertaining three man group on wrestling recaps since OSW. I'm laughing so hard at the Castrol skit with Jawny lol
Never stop
The Rock & Stone Cold of wresting podcasts lol
@@5150scottie5150 "you think you're special? Ya do." Lol
They gotta clash at next year's Mania
5:11 a little too on the nose there Jawnny
42:26 im on my lunch break at work and James almost made me choke on my fuckin food with his wheezing 😂
Did Ric and Scott ever have a match during this time lol
Of course not, flair was terrified of him
I just checked and sadly Shane was not apart of the talks to go the WWF at that time actually though for Konan he was leaving is just Prichard did not know who he was actually.
Yeah and from what I heard konan kept calling himself k-dog when he was calling the WWE guys. Seemed kinda odd and unprofessional. Good news though, Konan is great in Mexico.
@@AL7249lolno
Conan didn’t get hired because they were still pissed about him ditching the max moon thing, you flipping mark . Good grief
I just realized that episode of nitro took place on the exact day I was born
Hogan hadn't had to cut his forehead before so he went too deep 😂😂😂.
I'm surprised the scissors shit ain't on dark side of ring
rise and fall of henderson variety
here after pulse booked a match on AEW dark elevation
Jeff Jarrett was NEVER a World Champion......making him a champion in WCW was an awful idea......he was a decent wrestler, but he was NEVER a main event World Champion level guy. Making him WCW champ gave him the idea to start his own company and of course, ratings and growing to be a competitior, to WWE be damned, instead he made himself World Champion over and over and over while TNA suffered for it. Every time a guy became champ that TNA could have built with (AJ Styles, Raven, Christian) Jarrett just had to come in and get the title back playing superman in his wins. IC title or US TItle was fine, but he should have been no where near any World Heavyweight Title EVER.
Everybody has that one wrestler they hate with a passion, mines always been jarret... that guitar is so cheap and fake looking... he pushed me away from wcw, tna, and now hes in aew like wtf
Jeff Jarrett Is A Better Choice Than Those Vanilla Midgets You Named.
Not trying to be controversial, but I have heard thru an old Wrestletalk interview with Benoit, that when he him and the rest of the radicalz asked for their release, there 10 people originally who were wanting their release and when it came down to actually going into the office, their were 5 people who actually asked for it, and when it came to making things official, only the radicalz were wanting to actually leave. There's also a story Chavo Guerrero had, that on the day of asking for the release, eddie got to the building late and just say benoit, malenko and others, hd didn't know what was gonna happen but we wanted to go, and so did chavo, but eddie talked him out of leaving saying there's still alot for chavo to do in WCW.
Fuck Yeah DeadLock Time Hogdippers unite 🤘🤘
🎵Reboot it, renew it
Reshoot it, redo it
And reuse it, retool it
Abuse it, just do it🎵
C'MOOOON!
Just Reboot it!
An omen of things to come
Thank you Deadlock👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I thought the Good Ol line was a JR dig lol
Right!? Lol I was so confused til they explained
"Hit me with the Fameasser tonight, brother."
Fucking brilliant.
I will put money down that Pulse is submitting the scissor story reading to botchamania.
Were you right??
Seems, or rather sounds like there's no audio on this video
And now it's fixed? That was.... odd.
it must have still been processing, youtube be dumb like that when a video is just uploaded
AEW is now the good ol boy network.
Wooooooooo Deadlock time OH HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
36:30
41:00
1:11:40
Darth Maul in 2000 though?
Vince McMahon SIMM club
You guys should review wwf breakdown theres some great gems in there
Can we get a video on roid rage Scott Steiner
5:34 legion of dump
1:02:10
Bro he keeps talking trash even when flair is out on the mat 💀💀. “You being a 14 time world champion don’t mean shit to me.”
KidMan Brother Dude should be a shirt lol
Wcw went out of business not cus of turner executives or backstage politics or stupid creative, it's cus they use too much pyro and hurt their women 🤣
What's the matter, Sid? Can't find your scissors?
love this podcast
sure wcw wasn't supposed to die but frankly it deserved to
"BEEEEKAAWWWSE"
-Vince Russo
39:00
I’m so glad to be born in the same city as Scott Steiner, only reason I love being a Michigander
You mean a michiganite? HOLLA
@@Obedientturd YOU DAMN RIGHT
Same
We get steiner, eminem, and icp... thats a hell of a squad❤
44:00 😂😂😂
Do backlash 1999
10:50
Ain't no shoot like a Worked Shoot.
Now this is wcw
Meat, if you will
HOLLAR IF YA HEAR MEEEEEEE
Boys are back in town. Woah Yeah. Lol
OH 🍻 HELL 🍻 YEAHHHHHHHH 🍻
Finally
Silence
It won’t let me play it
I'm not hearing anything
Vince Russo really is the worst person to ever book a wrestling show. Every idea he ever had was dogshit terrible. Bischoff was a really bad booker who had one good idea that he stole and ran into the ground. Vince McMahon was an out of touch senile weirdo for 30 years with zero good ideas and somehow McMahon and bischoff look like geniuses compared to Russo.
love this podcast