Corrections: 1. When i referenced BMW reliability, i was refering to KTM. 2. For the tidy tail, i have the ALT Rider rack mounted above the tail, not below it. This is why its slightly higher than the seat level.
I completely agree with your take on the T7 horsepower and the reliability trade off. The KTM 890 is probably the best example of what you'll get when you push the limit. I've considered sending my T7's ECU to BT Moto. They advertise a 4HP increase but idk if its worth messing with a bullet proof design.
@@jmac03blackit shouldn't. Africa did it,and price did not go up. But at the end,i rather pay few bucks more for that. With tube is a dealbreaker for me. Never again😊
I'm an off roader and I bought one. It's a fun bike, but I sold it. I like the bigger ridiculous fast bikes more. I can still get them into stupid places where people look at you like you're an alien riding that thing. But honestly I have so much more fun on these big bastards on the street than off-road. Out in the sticks you just brake shit and keep dreaming about that 2 stroke sitting home in the garage, and how much more fun it'd be. That's why I sold the Yammi for something more exciting, don't really care if it's "great off road" or just OK. I'll still take it there if I need to!
@@davidlane9724 I am planning to get a lot of miles on mine this next year. I'm slowly researching some camping gear, I'm hoping to reignite my camping love on the bike.
I once saw a guy on a 125 beat a 500 2 stroke in a drag race. There was also a guy on TH-cam who compared a T7 against a 90-100hp bmw or ktm, cant remember which but he was faster on the T7 on a timed 100m dirt track. So all these people that talk hp, dirt is a great equalizer. The CP2 is such an awesome motor with usable power. On a ride I did awhile back there was tricky little hill climb, 3 big ktms needed several attempts to get up. It was easy on the T7. When they were all at the top there was a big discussion on which traction control settings they were using and why they failed. I was sitting on the T7 and just smiled. Good review.
I've got the nicecnc foot pegs and they are pretty tough...get you a rally raid rear spring 95nm and some stoltec drop in fork springs 75nm...you'll notice the difference...! around $300 all together shipping and all... it really helps it to be a 70/30 bike...after that a tusk bash plate, barkbusters and camel adv 1 finger clutch....it's a nice improvement ... rear bake is fine just get some new pads also from camel...pretty good review
@@jmac03black yup...took about 4 hours..I bought a spring compressor from tusk.. removing the rear shock/sping is pretty easy....front fork spring's easy as well.. I needed a extra hand for the forks to get it all buttoned back up...you don't remove the forks just open the top pull old out drop new in... there are a few video's on youtube with each of those products
wish it had tubeless.. we live offroad in the Mojave desert and punctures are a way of life... need to be able to plug and go and not take a whole wheel off the rim and mess with a tube...
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I would prefer tubeless wheels as well for the type of riding I do. However, I think that would push the cost of the bike up above the Aprilia, and that would hurt sales pretty bad. The Aprilia is already a superior bike with the exception of reliability and price.
I have the same tail tidy. Riding in mud and rain splashes the passenger seat, back pack or back of your jacket. I'm gonna change it for one that sticks out further back.
@@Productificados I am well aware. However, I doubt anyone seeing this can do 20% of what he does. Also just because he can, doesn't mean he should. It's worth noting, he has very heavily modified his suspension.
Thank you for the review. I am looking at the Honda 300 Rally but saw a Grey T7 look great. New rider her I am 6ft 3in 230lbs I am not full off-road but want do trails not rocks... I will go check on the T7...
@@tonyjones629 The 300 is a fantastic dual sport. At your size and weight, the suspension might be a little soft. If you want to ride at highway speeds it will struggle a little. But, back roads and trails it's perfect.
I think with the 25 model upgrades and the chain supply moving again, used bikes are going to pop up all over with little to no mileage. May be able to grab one cheap.
Now is a very good time to buy dual sports and adv bikes. Dealers can't get rid of them. I just got a new 2024 T7 for $8650, no negotiation. KTM 690's, Husky 701's, and GasGas 700's are going for 2k below MSRP. The 500's are all gone now but there are a bunch of good deals. Soft demand, over production and new model years hitting the floor are killing dealers
Corrections:
1. When i referenced BMW reliability, i was refering to KTM.
2. For the tidy tail, i have the ALT Rider rack mounted above the tail, not below it. This is why its slightly higher than the seat level.
I completely agree with your take on the T7 horsepower and the reliability trade off. The KTM 890 is probably the best example of what you'll get when you push the limit.
I've considered sending my T7's ECU to BT Moto. They advertise a 4HP increase but idk if its worth messing with a bullet proof design.
@@thomasfinch5605I'm not sure 4 hp will be noticable, however overall smoothing the fuel map and adding power would be awesome.
Just got mine yesterday. Loving it. The thing about adventure bikes is they are decent at everything and great at nothing. I think that's fair.
I agree with you. CT would be nice,but tubeless should be "must". Really can't see myself to change tube on way to work. 😊
@@1jodlar tubeless would be great but I think that would push the MSRP too high.
@@jmac03blackit shouldn't. Africa did it,and price did not go up. But at the end,i rather pay few bucks more for that. With tube is a dealbreaker for me. Never again😊
@1jodlar agree, no tubeless, no sale... were offroad in the mojave... punctures are a way of life... tubeless is a must for plug and go
I'm an off roader and I bought one. It's a fun bike, but I sold it. I like the bigger ridiculous fast bikes more. I can still get them into stupid places where people look at you like you're an alien riding that thing. But honestly I have so much more fun on these big bastards on the street than off-road. Out in the sticks you just brake shit and keep dreaming about that 2 stroke sitting home in the garage, and how much more fun it'd be. That's why I sold the Yammi for something more exciting, don't really care if it's "great off road" or just OK. I'll still take it there if I need to!
On the market for one. Great video, thank you. Very honest and informative. Seems to me the pros outweigh the cons.
Great video I bought one last month.
@@davidlane9724 I am planning to get a lot of miles on mine this next year. I'm slowly researching some camping gear, I'm hoping to reignite my camping love on the bike.
I once saw a guy on a 125 beat a 500 2 stroke in a drag race. There was also a guy on TH-cam who compared a T7 against a 90-100hp bmw or ktm, cant remember which but he was faster on the T7 on a timed 100m dirt track. So all these people that talk hp, dirt is a great equalizer. The CP2 is such an awesome motor with usable power. On a ride I did awhile back there was tricky little hill climb, 3 big ktms needed several attempts to get up. It was easy on the T7. When they were all at the top there was a big discussion on which traction control settings they were using and why they failed. I was sitting on the T7 and just smiled. Good review.
Most non dirt riders misunderstand traction and how too much power can blow through it.
Hell ya
I've got the nicecnc foot pegs and they are pretty tough...get you a rally raid rear spring 95nm and some stoltec drop in fork springs 75nm...you'll notice the difference...! around $300 all together shipping and all... it really helps it to be a 70/30 bike...after that a tusk bash plate, barkbusters and camel adv 1 finger clutch....it's a nice improvement ... rear bake is fine just get some new pads also from camel...pretty good review
Did you do the suspension mods yourself?
@@jmac03black yup...took about 4 hours..I bought a spring compressor from tusk.. removing the rear shock/sping is pretty easy....front fork spring's easy as well.. I needed a extra hand for the forks to get it all buttoned back up...you don't remove the forks just open the top pull old out drop new in... there are a few video's on youtube with each of those products
wish it had tubeless.. we live offroad in the Mojave desert and punctures are a way of life... need to be able to plug and go and not take a whole wheel off the rim and mess with a tube...
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I would prefer tubeless wheels as well for the type of riding I do. However, I think that would push the cost of the bike up above the Aprilia, and that would hurt sales pretty bad. The Aprilia is already a superior bike with the exception of reliability and price.
I have the same tail tidy. Riding in mud and rain splashes the passenger seat, back pack or back of your jacket. I'm gonna change it for one that sticks out further back.
@@teutonman7018 I have noticed a little bit of stuff being thrown back onto me. I could probably use the lower bolt holes for an extension.
"If you're gonna be Pol Tarres this isn't the bike for you"... Like, Pol Tarres does hard enduro on a T7 what are you talking about. 🤣🤣🤣
@@Productificados I am well aware. However, I doubt anyone seeing this can do 20% of what he does. Also just because he can, doesn't mean he should. It's worth noting, he has very heavily modified his suspension.
Get a chain guide, get the OEM ones, just put one on mine.
Thank you for the review. I am looking at the Honda 300 Rally but saw a Grey T7 look great. New rider her I am 6ft 3in 230lbs I am not full off-road but want do trails not rocks... I will go check on the T7...
@@tonyjones629 The 300 is a fantastic dual sport. At your size and weight, the suspension might be a little soft. If you want to ride at highway speeds it will struggle a little. But, back roads and trails it's perfect.
I think it's a beautiful bike, I just can't afford it.
I think with the 25 model upgrades and the chain supply moving again, used bikes are going to pop up all over with little to no mileage. May be able to grab one cheap.
Now is a very good time to buy dual sports and adv bikes. Dealers can't get rid of them. I just got a new 2024 T7 for $8650, no negotiation. KTM 690's, Husky 701's, and GasGas 700's are going for 2k below MSRP. The 500's are all gone now but there are a bunch of good deals. Soft demand, over production and new model years hitting the floor are killing dealers
check out a stock windscreen adjuster, cheaper and more practical
@@10041998able I've seen a few and I've wondered how well they work.