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- In this video I'm continuing my repairathon and will take a closer look at the Asus P2B mainboard. A legendary Slot 1 mainboard for the Intel Pentium II and Pentium III
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I must have built hundreds of systems with this board back in the day. Great then and great now.
What a rock solid board this is. I got one for a retro pc I'm building.
No need to apologize, as viewers we should be grateful that you make this high quality, very informative content, free for us to watch!
Your videos are my personal deoxidizer: Memory is coming back!
Funny story: Back in the 90s I ordered a Slot 1 adapter. The shop made a mistake and sent not only the adapter but also a brand new ASUS P2B (I don't remember the revision anymore). This board was financially out of reach for my juvenile self. So I didn't dare to unbox and use it for several weeks but eventually I did. And it was a great board!
Ya, there was a consumer protection law passed decades ago where if they mail you something, it's basically yours. This was due to companies abusing the mail system by sending people unsolicited items, then demanding payment if you didn't return them.
In modern times it's somewhat abusing the law to not return stuff, but I can't say I wouldn't keep stuff myself. I'm certainly no angel, lol.
@@l337pwnageAgainst the law or not, it remains THEIR mistake to mail you unsollicited stuff.
Accountability is the kryptonite of many people (and companies as well)
I had a "defective" board gathering dust for 2 years. When i was ready to throw it away, i noticed that the battery socket was lose and prevented the board from booting...
Great video, I have one of the later revisions of this board with a Pentium II 400MHz Deschutes processor. It was sitting in the basement of an old house for decades, I cleaned everything, swapped the CMOS, added compact flash, some new fans, now it runs like a dream! Even came with an old CRT, keyboard and mouse. I love going from overclocking my modern Ryzen watercooled rig to listening to a floppy drive chatter and old PC speaker beep, it does something good for the soul.
I was just hoping for another video, thanks!
What a nostalgic seeing those bios post screen again....and the "beeps" haha. Still have my Pentium 2 PC buried somewhere inside my store room. It's P2B-B Pentium 2 350 board with soundBlaster Live value sound card and S3 savage 3D agp card.
Not a good spec but it was my 1st PC into internet. Remember playing Commandos behind enemy line and man.... love those days!
What a great game that is. I still play it. ;-)
Thanks Necrowave, post as you can, we all busy lives ♥
Asus P2B - forever the favourite motherboard revision. I've got 4 different ones running to this day. Most will handle 800MHz P3 with no modding and possible to take to 1GHz sometimes, with a single soldered wire. P2-233 Celeron minimum. My first CPU on the board was P2-266. Still sits somewhere in a box. I was blown away by performance. DVD's just came out, and I remember getting a DXR2 hardware decoder, thinking P2-266 couldn't handle it, but turned out, it could play DVD's with no additional hardware acceleration. That was huge.
Oh man, you're bringing back memories like crazy with this comment.
I remember getting a new PC with a DVD drive in 2000. It was amazing, however DVD's stuttered because the place I bought it from sold me a non Intel chipset.
I learned I had a PII-300 SL2W8. They were P2-450's sold as 300's. 99% of them could do 450mhz. Set the jumper from 66mhz to 100mhz, immediate stutter free DVD playback.
Maaaan, that chipset sucked though. Especially since you're saying you did software decode on a 266mhz, and my 300mhz PII couldn't even.
I have several asus and they are fantastic! The question is would be the 1000eb 1.7v less or more stressful for the Vrm than the 1.75v versión? Don't know if those 0.05 volt could help to reduce amp or something...
New Necroware video = nice weekend ;-)
Incredible catch with that missing keyboard jumper, I was fully expecting you to desolder the mouse/KB ports. Imagine how irritating it’d have been to do that and find they were totally fine
Agreed. The troubleshooting/"debugging" parts of these videos are always my favorite. Even thought I don't work with hardware it's good to hear someone else's thought process to hopefully help me avoid the "it couldn't be that!" traps when I end up searching for a solution in all the wrong places.
My P2B runs a Tualatin Celeron at 1,4 ghz and Voodoo 5. I love this Board.
More than 20 years later and I still learn new things from the era. Today I learned about ESCD and that it is written in the EPROM.
I have to watch this video from start to finish if it (really) explains what the bloody ESCD means!
in the 90s and early 2000s, I've been working in a computer company in its technical/repair department. We do all the repairs and have everything all types or kinds of boards, monitors, printers, and many others, you name it, from setup to board level repairs.. I should have made a collection back then if only I knew I would be walking again down the memory lane.. thanks to your channel..
I remember choosing between the Asus P2B and the Abit BH6 back in those days. I ended up going with a Abit BH6 (due to it's jumper less design) and Celeron 300A combo which comfortably ran at 464 Mhz for many years. Sadly that board succumbed to bad capacitors that when they failed caused a spectacular failure in the power supply section of the board and burned a few components along with the PCB.
Glad to see the work done on this board! Very entertaining!
I bought this board back in the day to replace a tragically unstable Cyrix 6x86 PR200+ with undersized voltage regulators. The P2B was such a breath of fresh air - fast, stable, trouble free. I used it for years before upgrading to a TUSL2-C, and my parents used it for a while after that. I recently got it back, and it’s in my retro P2 machine now, in a similar Enlight case. Right next to a (new to me) TUSL2-C in an Inwin case I still had from back in the day. It feels good to get the band back together. 🥰
I remember a friend of mine built a pc based on this motherboard when they came out. Paired it with a PII 350 & boy was it solid & fast. One of the most reliable boards I've seen. So now, all these years later. I'm building a retro pc & this same exact motherboard is what I'm using. Only, I'm pairing it with a PIII 500. Love this board & always will.
This brings back all kinds of memories. At the time when this sort of system was new, my parents bought what ended up being the last pre-built PC we would buy for at least a decade - with a PII 350 and a P2B.
A short time later my dad learned about "overclocking" and the 300A from a coworker, and we built a 300A/BH6 combo for less than half the price of the prebuilt.
We eventually spent enough time messing around with overclocking those systems that we discovered that our particular 300A would do 450MHz without any voltage increase. So we swapped CPUs between them and put the 300A on the P2B. The PII 350 went into the BH6 and with a couple tenths of voltage to help, it'd do 466MHz on a 133MHz FSB. Two nearly identical performing systems made for instant LAN parties at home.
that has to be times! To have LAN at home in 1998 or 1999.
My friend with computer, was comming to me, few times per year, and let computer at me.
We had to carry computer case, and CRT monitor, and accesories .
Always had lots of fun.
Later, we got cheaply Celeron 266 system from parents job, they were obsolete in 2003, and company got them very cheap for workers.
from that time, we had LAN at home, I've built it around august 2003. Those were the times, those holydays were all gaming. :)
almost noone had still internet at home, but LAN was super fast, internet games were slow in that time.
So many friends had come to visit, to play some LAN games.
It had to be cool to have LAN in 1998, and even Pentium II systems, both one of the greatest Slot 1 motherboards.
I've upgraded that Celeron 266 Covington (without L2 cache, so basicaly as fast as Pentium 233 MMX), to Pentium II 400, and bought voodoo3, because there was only some 2D card. It handled games till year 2000 good. Pity, I didnt know, Pentium III Katmai is compatible with Pentium II boards, I would buy 500-600 mhz Pentium III Katmai instead. But I only checked (outdated) manual, and there was maximum Pentium II 450. That was my 20 year younger amateur hardware myself, doing mistakes. We could have much more performance, as Pentium II 400 was blocking that vooodoo3. But I found it in 2020, when I started to care about retro hardware, that Katmai is basicaly same as Pentium II and usually works in motherboards, even if not detected with microcode, it just works as Pentium II.
When you got that rapid clicking, I immediately thought, "is he holding a key down?" Good catch on that jumper.
As always, your video is full of useful information. I never knew about slotket adapters with jumpers to override the voltage requested, that's very interesting!
Please film a Slotket comparison video! There are so many on the market and it's very confusing for those of us looking to build a wacky system from that era; there's precious little information out there now.
I still have a retro PC with Asus P2B-S (with On-Board SCSI and AGP Pro) and it runs great.
I am genuinely happy to see a P2B revived on this channel. I had one as a kid with a Celeron 333a which ran well at 500mhz. It was the first PC that I could call mine and really allowed me to learn so much about them without messing up the family PC, and is probably what kickstarted my successful career in IT. I had a couple other boards of this era and none of them compared to the speed and stability of that first Asus P2B-VM.
i think i should have one of the last revisions here... i found it on the trash togehter with the holy grale: the Asus TUSL2-C, the best platform for a tualatin warmaschine :D
Back in the day, I ended up running even a Tualatin Celeron 1200MHz in an Abit BH6 motherboard (440BX). That prolonged the life of that system until I could afford a proper Athlon system. I skipped the P4 generation altogether. :) I had also intended to use a 1400MHz Tualeron but never had one handy. That was with a heavily modified slotket, the details of which escape my foggy memory right now.
That was really nice work and Doom was deferentially one of my favorites and Wolfenstein 3D.
This board was my workhorse for a while, paired with a CuMine P3 733Mhz, 256Mb PC133 RAM and a 32Mb AGP TNT2 (plus the ever ubiquitous CMedia generic sound card) it packed quite a punch. I remember the 440BX's 133Mhz FSB was "unofficial", in the sense that the chipset was not designed for it but worked stable enough if the board was well designed - something the P2B was legendary for. Aahhh, sweet random access memories from the past...
Really good video, I thoroughly enjoyed it! :)
I have a Asus P2B-F here and now I will make sure the cmos battery is removed, just to be safe. Forgot I had it. Good times.
Thanks for a great video!
Thank you for the video. It was very satisfying to see this board returned to operation. It was still a little unsettling about the ram not working and suddenly started working. I’ve always been mystified by the strange problems you run into with old hardware that basically is fixed by “magic” or FM as we called it back in the day.
I have been really enjoying your repairathon and your channel! Keep up the good work!
I remember owning one of these - I had it running on a pentium 3 I think 733 with a homemade adapter for the socketed PIIIs to the slotted ones with some soldered on wires on the back to make it work on a P2 platform. Just to see if memory serves me correct, this was a 440bx chipset with one of the early realtek hd audio codecs, right? #12:00 is it weird that I still recognize the beep code for no gpu installed?
Never will get tired of your vids and always wait for the next one! I used a MSI Slotket Adapter with jumpers to convince my P3B-F to work with a VIA Nehemiah CPU and to provide the needed 1,4V. You might try to find a Pentium3 1100 (11*100) in order to keep the BX440 within Specs and not overclock it.
There were special adapters for Tualatin, so you can use 1.4GHz (if I'm not mistaken) and be faster than all Socket 423 P4s, but I still prefer 'equal' or 'typical' builds where everything matches.
@@rkurbatov No, rather put all time periods together for real frankstein build: p2b, tualatin, ide to sata w. ssd and Gt6800 or fx5900. With the sound card you can go back and forth in time ;)))
I have a P2B-F, and it is one of those boards that, when setting it up on a bench, you will pull out and reinsert the RAM modules 20 times but the 21st time it will start up with absolutely no problem, you can even wiggle the RAM with your finger while the computer is working.
I have the later P3BF as my main Windows 98 machine running a 933 Celeron. The range of supported CPUs is amazing. And stable as a rock!
Da der IC Sockel eh defekt war, kann man sich das Auslöten erleichtern. Die Kontaktzungen einzeln mit einer Pinzette heraushebeln, dann mit einer Spitzzange greifen und die Pins einzeln auslöten. Ich die sicherste und einfachste Lösung. Vielen Dank für deine interessanten Videos. VG
Loved that board back in the day, used to use nail varnish on the cpu carriers for the intel boards to adjust the fsb and multiplier, seems to remember there could be issues if the SPD on the ram wasn't working on first boot after cleared bios settings.
That's a beautiful board. All the features I want. ISA and AGP. You make amazing videos. Thank you sir.
One of my biggest regrets in life is the loss (ignored at the time) of my P2B-DS system.
Your videos have been a major contributor to me acquiring an MP-6DBX system and even getting it to post occasionally.
This is a great video - thank you!
I have the same motherboard. Very good board
That was REALLY COOL! I NEVER would have expected to see a P3 1Ghz running on a P2B board!! GREAT JOB!!!!
I had P2V with via chipset, Celeron 400 and Voodoo 3 2000 😁 upgraded straight from a 486dx2/66
I could finally play all the new games that my friends at school were talking about - I had it for very long , had no problems but didn't overclock it
Running that same board with a p3 550 and a voodoo3 and it works great. Bought the board brand new when it was released.
It's no suprise that the P2B series was one of ASUS' best selling motherboard, even well into the P3B series. Rock solid & versitile.
ASUS even complained on fake boards :) And had instructions on how to distinct them :) Just impossible now.
I had a ZIDA board that looked just like the P2B, ofcourse without the Asus chips @@rkurbatov
P2B was my board back in the day with a Celeron 300A overclocked to 450. It was a beast! I ended up replacing it with an Asus A7v133 and a Duron, which was promptly overclocked, then a 1.4 Thunderbird and finally a 2.0 ghz Athlon. I loved ASUS back in the late 90's and early 00's. I've still got the P2B, I need to pull it back out and set it up to its former glory.
Beast of a board, still got mine laying around, although it probably won't boot w/o work now. The keyboard power on was a sweet option. I miss it, sure, now they got sleep, and hibernate, and whatever else, but those always seem to have problems.
Asus's hardware monitoring options were also a selling point for me.
I really like old Asus boards. I have few of them in my retro PCs: P55T2P4, P2B-S, P3B-F, TUSL2-C and few newer ones. Along with Abit its a way to go when building PC from late 90'.
This board is a bit of Nostalgia for me. Was my First Pentium II motherboard i ever had, basic but great. Had a Pentium II 333 and managed to clock that to 450Mhs on this board. When the Pentium III came out i updated the BIOS and ran a 450Mhz Pentium III on it and overclocked that 504MHz, the RAM i had refused to go to 133Mhz. This board was Retired when i moved from Pentium III to Athlon K7
I love wathing You working out issues👍
Great video, as always!
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Didn't know, that PII written in BIOS chip some settings.. Nice to know now!
I have one of these in the other room. I use it in conjunction with a Celeron 300A for in-depth hard disk testing and sanitization, since some software doesn't run properly on newer chipsets (if they even have ATA support at all).
Back in the early '00s I bought a similar VIA-based board (FIC VB-601, I think) when it was on clearance at the local PC store, and it went through various PII and PIII modules through its life. I still have it, with a proper Slot 1 933MHz PIII and a 3dfx card of some sort.
I just found a Fujitsu PC with this board in it thrown out :)
2 HDDS, 2 optical drives (one a Creative), a floppy drive, a PCI SoundBlaster sound card, ATi Rage AGP video card, PCI nic, and even an ISA modem haha.
When you do fastvid, maybe also include the more obscure tools for the K6-2/III (MXK6OPT and SETK6V3).
I have the same board, version 1.02. Last week I replaced the IC that controls voltage on the board, between the slot 1 and parallel port, north of the coil. The board now works with Pentium 3, I measured 1.65v and 1.7v on the same places you took your readings. The IC is HIP6019BCB. It requires a minimum soldering skill, which you also have (based on your videos). I didn’t consider a modification, more like an upgrade, and it is transparent afterwards. It is the same change Asus did on newer boards that can run Pentium 3
Yes, I made the same change on this board. Just didn't mention it in this video, because at the time of making it I had no replacement DC-DC controller.
Every P2B deserves a Tualatin build.
Yeah, that is awsome indeed.
@@necro_ware wish I had known about that in 2001. :P
Hell yeah. My main build is while not a P2B, is a P3B-F with a 1GB PC133 memory and a 1.4GHz PIII-S in a modified Asus S370-133 slotket. It's a beast!
@@boot-nr7jn might try to get my P2B working at 133mhz FSB with a pIIi-s. I don’t know about the agp clock at that speed in my board revision. Might give it a try
@@donfurioso3566 The P3S and P2B dont get along very well unless you have the proper slotkit which can convert the signaling voltage. Rev 1.10 and 1.12 can deliver the right vCore but the GTL+ signalling voltage tolerances are too wide for the P3S and will usually cause the cpu damage after a prolonged period of time.. Coppermine didn't have this issue as it used the same tolerances as the P2. Agp frequency runs at 89mhz which is not usually an issue for many video cards. Known working cards in my case were Matrox G200,G400, VooDoo3 and Ati Rage Pro.. TnT and TnT2 often worked. However gForce 256 and gForce GTS cards were hit or miss. Wen in doubt though a PCI card will be just fine as the Pci bus stays at 33mhz unless you jumper it usin only the 3 divider in which case it will be at 44mhz, and that will generally be a little much, not to mention it will be death for any DMA hard drive unless you set uDMA to 1.
Great vid. I'm still running two Win98 boxes on Asus CUSL2 motherboards, 1Ghz P3s, with 1Gig RAM each. They're over twenty years old and still work flawlessly (as hosts for my Korg OASYS PCI synth cards).
Great video 👍
Great to see such a legendary motherboard again
Maybe you do a video series about legendary mainboards.
Two suggestions from me. Asus P55T2P4 and Epox EP-MVP3G5 😍
Those Asus P2 series are quite powerful. I had a P2-99 paired with a P3 750MHz coppermine on a slot 1 adapter, back in the early 2000's, running win98 and XP in dual boot. Worked great.
My first retro build was very similar! I had an early-revision P2B-D board (same voltage regulator limits) and I used an MSI Slotket adapter to run a 1GHz P3 at 1.8 volts. Since then I've gotten a newer-version P2B-DS board that does support 1.7v and a pair of REAL SL4KL 1GHz Slot 1 P3 CPU's.
Rewatched :) enjoy watching for the tips, and it's rather cathartic
I used to clean memory contacts by scrubbing the contacts with a pencil eraser rubber (we joked what you need to "erase the memories" for them to work properly). The pencil eraser was soft,but firm enough to do the trick without damaging the contacts. Do no try it with ink/pen erasers 😀
Strangely enough I got told to do the same and it works wonders
I have one of those boards, it was a fantastic board. Rock solid stable. I would think it would still boot but would need to be inspected.
Still have a PC running with an Asus P2B inside, running on a Tualatin Celeron 1.3 GHz with 768MB of RAM.
Nice to see that you were able to run the 440BX chipset at 133 MHz, as it officially only supports 66 MHz and 100 MHz speeds.
These old award bios files are modular ones, and can be easily taken into parts with cbrom. Than you’re able to change the cpucode part to a newer on to solve compatility issues, or, if you’ve got, to update the integrated raid controller bios, etc.
I did a lot of such mods back in the early 2000s, running Tualatin cpus with Powerleap adapters in old BX boards, even have some i820 rambus ones, with cpucode.bins swapped from last 815E boards like the Abit ST6.
I've been binge watching your videos all week. Can't wait to see what you have stored this year. My first computer I built was with this motherboard though I think it was 1.04 revision coupled with the exact Celeron 433Mhz setup.
Perhaps that last memory swap removed just enough tarnish from the memory slot and allowed it to work.
i think so too... maybe you use a small plastic brush after spraying. That's why i always recommend NOT to wash hardware with normal water!
Great Video Very useful Information on those BIOS Chips Thank You
Great video as usual. Keep up with the good work 😀
Love your videos - don't worry about frequency of video release, they're very much appreciated when you find the time.
I have this board, but of revision 1.04. They had many P2B's of different types and revisions, with SCSI integrated and so on. I wanted to make a switchable build with PII/PIII, but decided to split eventually. I don't have special Slotket (they are rare), so technically you can inside anything from Pentium Pro (in a special adapter and with special BIOS - they are same with P2 and P3 electrically) to PIII Tualatin, but there are other limitations. The memory is limited to 768MB on 440BX and even for that value you should have special 2-row, better registered RAM that's also rare and expensive. So I bought KT133A motherboard for my P3 builds (with Voodoo II SLI and MonsterSound on WinME/Win2K) and left this board for late DOS games and early Windows games on canonical slot Celeron :)
P2B rev 1.04 is not fake? Not made by Asus? I found articles, that Asus claimed, they didnt have revision 1.04.
@@warrax111 won't be surprised, really. They complained on lot of fakes.
@@rkurbatov I found out how it was:
They made 1.04 , but it was very fast stopped, because they found out, they are faking it. So they moved to revision 1.10.
So most of the 1.04 stood fake. They stopped producing 1.04 in december 1998.
You can differ them by number of jumpers for setting speed.
Asus p2b 1.04:
3 jumpers block = fake
4 jumpers block = real one.
That is one of my all time favorite motherboards.. Really enjoyed this video. thank you .. cheers.
I had a P2B 1.02 back in the day :) It took me through celeron 300a, then 366 up til Pentium 3 1000MHz as you have here, also through socket adaptor with 1.8v . It was stable as a rock!
reminds me of a workstation I had back in the day, dual processor either slot 1 or slot 2 with xeons. had separate VRM cards.
As always, very interesting. I have an Aopen AX6BC BX board running with a socket P3 since back in the day when both the board and the new gen P3 were released. It has never gone to storage, running for ages just to use diy serial eprom programer. Recently, I put it back in comission for vintage gaming and upgraded it with a gifted Vodoo3. I love that machine.
I would probably upgrade that tiny heatsink in yours if it were mine and is going to do any hard work or long session. It feels way too small to deal with a P3, speciall one using a bit more voltage than intended.
I had a P2B-F rev 1.14 (i think) that run with a slot T adapter and a Celeron A 1Ghz @ 1.33Ghz and 1GB ram with no problems at all. Good times!
interesting how the bad memory caused the bios to fail so early in POST considering youd expect the memory test to be performed later in the POST,.. and then it magical fixed itself :) Nice video.. keep em coming .. very enjoyable watch on a Friday evening :)
Marvelous, those P2Bs boards were the sh*t back in the days, and this one is no exception! :-]
I'd love to see a follow-up video where you tune this board's performance! I like to tinker with boards of this vintage, but I've never approached getting optimal performance from them.
(My go-to board right now is a dual Slot 1 Tyan board with two 1GHz Coppermine CPUs; I run FreeBSD on it, for science.)
This is a very good mainboard for Pentium II and Pentium III Katmai CPUs. I have one, I also have a P3B-F, but my favourite 440BX board is the good old Gigabyte GA-6BXC rev2. It kinda flies under the radar and can be bought quite cheaply, but it's every bit as good as the P3B-F. I use mine with an MSI MS-6905 Master slotket and VIA C3 CPU which can be slowed down to 386 speeds with SetMul. It's the only DOS gaming PC that I need because it covers all DOS games I'm interested in, from the late 80s until early 2000s.
I have both GA-6BXC and 6BXS boards. 6BXC has problem, it autostarts after plugging power in. It doesn't wait for power on button. This is the only thing I dont like on it, and I thinking about changing it to some other slot 1 board. Maybe when I will be lucky, I'll get Asus P2B or P3B.
Also , I like GA-BX2000. Seems kinda upgraded from later era. Not sure, if it is same good as 6BXC, but I'm looking for it, when I get it, I probably sell 6BXC
@@warrax111 I guess there’s something wrong with your 6BXC, mine does not autostart. There might be a relevant setting in the BIOS.
@@warrax111 I just checked and there is indeed such a setting in the BIOS. Under Advanced Chipset Features there is a setting called Power Supply Type. If it's set to AT, the motherboard turns on immediately when the power is applied. If it's set to ATX, the motherboard behaves normally.
@@yeoldestuff Great. Thank you. I'll check it, would be great.
Anyway I was sending reference to review of the board, but I see, comment is deleted? Did you get that comment about tomshardware review?
@@warrax111 No, I haven't seen it, I believe TH-cam's spam filters automatically remove all comments with links
Cool thank you for an interesting video. I find your videos very informative and easy to follow along. I hope your work saves some hardware for future generations.
i don't mind the long time between videos :) keep up the good work all you got me digging sum of my old motherboards out and see what i can do with them :D
Great video. I was checking on a daily basis if you have already produced another repairathon.
Got an old presario in the cupboard running a slot1 p3 550mhz. Had it for years minted. Also got super 7 with k6-2 and socket 370 with a 1ghz p3. Yeah been doing this for a lot of years.
Great video. The P2 and P3 were two generations of Pentium processors I missed out on, but very interesting none the less. I wound up with a Pentium D system which I'm still using for ongoing tasks like a file and e-mail server to this day.
I had a P2B-DS board. It was very nice, rocking dual 450mhz PIIIs. Unfortunately I didn't own a slotket to use a faster coppermine PIII, so I was limited to the 450mhz processors
I also though about that, but early Dual CPU systems are only for Windows 2K without any benefits to game of that era. It was almost a miracle to me when I first saw blessed two core chart on Linux on Tyan MP boards (with two Athlons on it, not even MPs - it was possible), but now, looking on 24 bars on my desktop it's not a miracle anymore. :)
Great video! I love the ASUS P2B. It's probably my favorite slot-1 board. I have one of the ASUS branded sloket adapters with voltage control as well. I was able to overvolt a Celeron 300A for a nice 100% overclock recently 🙂
you should do a vid on via c3 nehemiah cpus, they are basically socket 370 cpus (1.45v sadly, but a new enough bx board can easily take them, my soyo 6BA+III does just fine) with speed control (like K6-2+ / K6-3+), and can still be found for quite cheap. at 1.2 ghz, they perform like a p3 600, and can be slowed down easily to 386 levels, and everything in between just with setmul. some people even claim they got it down to 8086 levels also using throttle since the 440bx is supported. honestly it's the best way to get a cheap all-in-one retro gaming pc. great vids btw, i love the late 90s era of pc gaming.
Absolutely worth the wait. Another great video from you sir. A follow up covering taking this board to the limit with that P3 would be great.
nice work as always =)
Thank you
Great information
Resurrection? I hope it shows a hand holding the P2B pushing through the dirt!
Awesome video makin me want to get one of these motherboards. been wanting to make a retro dos machine for ages but lacking the funds to do so.
Regarding the use of utilities such as FastVid... the use of SciTech's UniVBE TSR to "convert" graphics cards, that only supported VESA 1.4 (was it 1.3 instead? It was so long ago!), into VESA 2.0 compatible ones (Trident's TGUI 9440 AGi, for example), might warrant a video on their own!
I remember using UniVBE from DOS, before booting into BeOS. The use of said TSR allowed BeOS PE R5 to display better resolution (and 16 bits colors!), even on such a basic graphics card, with its generic VESA 2.0 driver).
Some games also ran on that card, thanks to that UniVBE utility, that otherwise couldn't be used on such hardware,
1.0 -> 1.2 -> 2.0 -> 3.0 if memory serves. Though most of that acceleration functionality provided by VBE/AF was never used - it was too late for DOS games.
@@rkurbatov Ah! Yes, thanks! It was VBE 1.2 the most that little Trident could handle with its own BIOS.
VBE 2.0 freed us from bank switching modes, offering the faster linear framebuffer, along with 16 and 24 bit depths! 😀
I only remember the Allegro graphics library making use of VBE 3.0 functions (to allow changing the refresh rate, for example).
(I sound like my grandfathers talking about times long gone... he he).
Be well, fellow human!
no need to apologies for the delay! Nice video and nice collection of CPUs. I shall get some for my own collection! :) One suggestion: unless it's what your camera is outputting, would you consider reducing the compression a bit?
I have a camera, which makes wonderful micro photography, but is awful for videos. So, unfortunately, this is the best I can currently get. My smartphone seems to have slightly better video quality, but my holders are all prepared for my main camera. I will have to experiment with it in the future and see if I can go better with that.
@@necro_ware that is totally fine of course - I just wanted to mention in case it was as simple as increasing the bitrate. :)
+1 on that board, it was my go-to board back in the day. Can't think how many servers and workstations I built back then with the P2B, P2B-D and P2B-DS. If only I had managed to keep one of them around... sigh.
Sweet nice on necro!!!!!
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Could also be that someone replaced the socket, the replacement was too wide, so they cut the middle.
It looks extremely similar to the P2L97 (440LX, released in 1997). It was shockingly fast under 98SE with only a Celeron 300A (with the FSB at 83MHz) and the Seagate U5. And maybe even with its original PII 233 (didn't use due to dead fan with corrosion on its cable pads). Would have held back the Viper V550 and Diamond Monster 3DII that were paired with it however.
The board actually worked with a PIII 650 (used with my SE440BS-2) and 3x 512MB sticks of RAM btw. Just recognising the PIII as a 429MHz Pentium II (and run at 2V) and only 1 side of each RAM stick. Still haven't replaced all of the caps behind the slot though...and they aren't of reputable manufacture.
Memories, I had one of these.
The channel is very entertaining.
Great critical thinking skills along with entertaining. Well done.
My wishlist would be you building a Monotech NUXT.
Wonderful mixture of old architecture with modern technology.
LGR did a good video on it. It's now on second version, just curious on how you'd build one.
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Great video. You should put a heatsink onto NB. Especially with 133MHZ bus ;)