Thanks for taking the time to evaluate these out in the field and let us know what you think of them Mark 😉 A lot of good points that you bring our attention to about each one 😉 I've seen too much Fjallraven stuff and know that there fit and finish is always top notch gear 👍 IMO..the Revolution looks good for summer wear, but you have to buy them one size bigger than what you would normally wear 😉
Cheers Ray - yes the Fjallraven is definitely top notch expensive, but very good quality and it shows. Think Revolution Race has some way to go; but I guess that’s why they’re so competitively priced and there colours and styles are very attractive too. Decisions; decisions 😂. While we’re back in Lockdown here in Wales 🏴 I’ll be doing a few of these reviews as I’ve had a lot of it for over a year now and can do I true review. ATB Mark.
Very true. However at the same time I see they hardly innovate on the fabric. I do recognise RevolutionRace are more aimed at Summer and target a different audience. If I would be a forester, without doubt Fjallraven all the way. However, hiking/backpacking for me is Revolution Race.
Cheers Lee - good luck finding the right trousers for you 👍 if you get a chance check out my video I’ve done on RR Wander Pros - great looking trousers. Not waterproof but Like Fjallraven’s you can wax them and they’re much cheaper 👍
Hi Mark, The reason Fjallraven have the hook that way is because a number of people didn't put the hook under the protective material and put their foot into the trouser and subsequently had their big toenail ripped off. Always be careful when you place your foot into the RR wander pants, ensure the hook is tucked away mate. I almost ripped my toenail off in my Gp pro rescue pants after using the hook the previous day after forgetting to tuck it away. Hope this helps and keep up the great content. Atb Andy H
Cheers Andy ; yes since making this video have myself a few near misses with that hook. Still love my Vidda Pros and have also bought a pair of Kebs and a pair of RR Wander Pro. RR have a really upped their game. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
I always thought the fallravens were top notch and the best according to the TH-camr bushcraft people I watch. Just bought a pair of rvrc and its good to hear that they are comparible 👍
Cheers Mat - glad you enjoyed the review - interesting to hear about the Salomons will take a look again at the RR 👍 ATB Mark. New subscribers always welcome.
@@MarksGoneWalking Cheers Mark. Yes I really enjoyed it. I really like RR and my wife loves their stuff. I have some Fjällräven clothes like the Skogsö jacket. I also bought RR silence proshell jacket and it's really comfortable and really nice looking. I'm now a subscriber!
Hi Mark. Just to let you know that I returned my Gps pants the other day due to wear on the stitching at the end of both legs after have used them just a couple of times. I got great support from RR and bought a pair of Gpx pro pants jet black instead. I hope they will last longer in the stitching business than the Gpx pants.
Hi Mat - that’s interesting; someone else on here commented that the Gpx Pro we’re definitely a step up from the normal Gpx. Let us know how you get on with them; be interested to know. Thanks for watching and commenting. ATB Mark.
I’ve had the Vidda pros ( exactly the same as ones in the vid) and the RR trousers for a year or so now . I wear either of them every single day as I’m a gardener and have a small holding so I’m always in outdoor gear . The RR are the better trouser for value and fit . The knees and the crotch are starting to wear , durability and weather proof the Vidda pros are unmatched . However I do find myself grabbing the RR more often
Hi Justin; some interesting comments - funnily enough I tend to where my RR more than the Fjallraven’s for some reason; less heavy maybe 🤔 but the quality still not quite there with Fjallraven. ATB Mark.
Hi Mark ... thanks for the detailed comparison. I think RR have taken feedback seriously as it's December '22 and I've just bought this model and find no untidiness in the stitching and more importantly the elasticated velcro closure at the ankle seems more generous...I wear a size 12 high Altberg desert tabbing boot and the velcro closures enclose my boot tops and don't ride up in movement. I tend to use Hikenture waterproof fully zipped gaiters as well and along with a thin base layer thermal bottom half this outfit becomes a winter-proof rig. Without a base layer I can imagine they'll be fine for summer as well. As an aside I much prefer the velcro closure on the panel pockets to pop closure. They seem to last well and are easily managed with gloves on. I'm impressed with the cut and comfort of this model...I'm 6 foot, over 200lbs with fairly stocky thighs and calves and am still comfortable. Also like the semi elasticated waist allowing stretching movements where everything remains in the same place ! I've bought Forest Green and will be interested to see if the colour fades or stays after a few washes. Thanks again for the upload...appreciate how much work goes into making these videos. Happy holidays. Jay
Thanks Jay; glad you enjoyed the video. Interesting to hear your thoughts on recent RR kit - might have to grab myself a pair of Pros in the sales. ATB Mark.
Montane‘s super Terra trousers are also a contender! I like the Vidda pros, the good thing with them is they dry quickly, and it rains a lot here in Ireland.
Nice job. I've got plenty of great pairs of hiking trousers M.E ibex, arcteryx, marmot etc but I'd put my fjern vinter trousers up there with fjallraven for features, material and quality. The fjallraven look long on you and I hear you need to get them adjusted by a seamstress unless that's certain types. 👍
Thanks for watching Craig; glad you enjoyed the vid. I do like my M E gear too. Interesting about the Fjern was wondering what they were like; will definitely give them a look at. ATB Mark.
I’ve been using revolution race for a few years. I like them but total get what your saying about the lower leg. I’ve adjusted mine and fitted a every flap to expand the leg to get round my boots. Should not need to do that but I have got mine second hand from eBay. All good condition for on the homestead. I got a new pair of the hiball pants. They have the open zip and winter lining on soft shell fabric. The best ones for cold wet weather
Cheers and thanks for watching. I too have a pair of Wander Pro trousers which although are definitely not waterproof are a massive improvement on these Gp pair I previously had - that have a zipped leg ending; so in future I will only buy RR with this feature in them. I noticed today also they seem to Pushing their prices up quite a bit - not sure if this be successful; as price was a major benefit before. Anyway thanks for passing by and glad you enjoyed the video. ATB Mark.
The RR are more comparable to the Fjällräven Keb (not Vidda Pro) in terms of fit and use of stretch material. I have both the Vidda Pro and Keb, and use the Keb for hiking (i.e. walking a lot), and the Vidda for everything else in the woods. Hence, I only wax the Vidda to make them as resistent as possible, while the Kebs are more desgined for movement/breathability. I watched a few RR reviews, and I’m not sure about them. A lot of bigger outdoor channels het them for free/cooperation (with great reviews), while I’ve seen some other reviews that point out terrible stitching and quality control. It doesn’t mean RR are bad, just be careful when watching “reviews” on youtube.
Hi and thanks for your detailed response. Funnily enough since making this video I now have the Kebs and just bought a pair of RR Gpx Pro trousers; going to do a review and comparison on them in the next couple of months as they as you point out are the most closely types of trousers. I have noticed the quality of RR gear has also improved since I made this video. I recently paid £60 in the sale for the Gpx Pros in comparison to the £220 I paid for the Fjallraven Kebs. The G1000 and finish on the Kebs is hard to beat; but I have to admit I do love these new RR trousers and have been wearing them constantly. You’ve got me motivated to do my next comparison video now. ATB Mark.
Ah that’s interesting 🤔 thanks for letting me know. 👍 will be doing a few more of these reviews in the near future as I bought a lot of gear about 12 months ago. I’ll check out your channel and drop you a sub. ATB Mark
I have used Revolution race trousers now for a few years and my first pair is still going strong faded alittle some places but no tear or wear other then normal stuff so im sticking with those I do believe Fjallraven is some awesome pair aswell but the price is holding me back its like 3 pair of Revolution pants vs 1 pair of Fjallraven I would be to scared of using them if they got a tear out on the trail at that price so also why im sticking with the ones i have hehe
Hi and thanks for taking the time to comment - I like your philosophy- 3 pairs for the price of 1 pair of Fjallraven’s 👍 ATB and thanks for watching. If you enjoyed this review; plan to do more over the next few months. New subscribers always welcome 🙏
Love the look of the Revolution race. Would they be suitable for travelling around Switzerland on a family holiday or would it be overkill? I’ve only got syndrome jeans so far
Hi Gazza; I’ve recently bought the Wander Pro trousers which I absolutely love; I’ve also got their adrenaline jeans which are more of a casual trousers rather than for hiking which are in a solid olive colour. Both are very comfortable and wouldn’t look out of place. Enjoy Switzerland 🇨🇭 beautiful country. ATB Mark.
@@foxbow90 Thanks for watching and the comment. My main gripe with the Revolution Race is the fact you can’t get them over your boots 🥾 apart from that I really like them?
@@MarksGoneWalking I can imagine. I never really wear hiking boots so I don't have that issue. Btw, the nordwand pants are a bit looser fit, maybe they suit better?
I had that issue with a pair that I bought. They should replace S/M/L type sizing with proper waist/inside leg sizing and offer short, regular and long leg.
To be honest the Solognac are excellent value for money - I’ve bought 2 different pairs and can’t fault them. Got to be said though the Fjallraven’s are in a league of their own. Thanks for watching 👍
Been walking in many places and climates (like many watching and the gentleman reviewing) and I have to go lighter and stretchier no matter what the weather especially here in the UK. I can imagine these pants being useful in really cold and dry conditions if you are fairly static. Otherwise they seem to me too warm, too inflexible and with all the seams, zips and studs just plain uncomfortable. Of course in real cold and with leggings under this would be less of a problem.
I have quiite a selection of Fjallraven and RevolutionRace. In the end I prefer Revolution Race for its design, colour combo's and of course value for money. Fjallraven is absolute top, but sometimes more emphasised on style and price.
Id try the rev race stuff iv tons of green pants 😀😀 sick of them .but toughest are percussion predator . Theyre on a different level of armoured keks , then theres the special opps brand like kebs but better thought out and normal leg lengths ( fjall let down) and waterproof,, iv vidda pro's with crotch hanging off , it happened days from new after paying for the legs to be taken up .. wouldnt have bothered but they had the studs and lace grips .. shame to waste all that tripe .. but the nads went and really cheeeeeesed me off. Kebs iv never had an issue with . Apart from leg lengths .. soi tried the special opps stuff wooow these are custom kebs but on another level , £300 zips everywhere fully waterproof ankle studs n lace clips . Vents with waterproof zips tops n bottoms im glad i tried them because they last, and do all lengths widths 😀😀😀 iv not tried rev race .
I absolutely love my Wander Pro pants they are very similar to the Keb pants but much cheaper. But be aware they are not waterproof; I have a video where I test them in pouring rain ☔️. Revolution Race have lots of water resistant and waterproof trousers - got my eye on some Cyclone or Silence Pro shell trousers next. Hope this helps and good Luck with your search for your new trousers.ATB Mark
@@mrxy4254 You can't get wrong on any of the GP, Nordwand, or Wander collection. For heavy rain, you would still need additional gear like the Typhoon. I have the Typhoon but not used it yet.
Hi Dom ; thanks for watching. I agree Helikon are a good brand; I’ve been keeping an eye on too. Thanks for taking the time to time to comment. If you liked this video and want to se more of these reviews if you wouldn’t mind dropping me a sub; I’m trying to grow my channel. ATB Mark.
@@MarksGoneWalking i have couple of helikon budget trousers M65 and some bdu, m65 are extremely durable and very comfortable, but baggy and when you going uphill and you are sweaty The knee will rub catch on fabric. The cheaper ones are durable too, but buttons have tendency to fall off So i use kevlar thread to reinforce them. I will totally sub.
Hi Mark How are the sizing on these 2 compared to a normal pair of trousers? I wear 36" jeans so was wondering whether to order L or XL. Nice review mate. keep up the good work
Hi Edward - I’m a waist 34 and the medium/50 fits me fine in the Revolution Race; but the leg length is a little too long. If you check out their site they have a very comprehensive guide with lots of customer reviews on fit. The Fjallraven Vidda Pros are a 48; slight snug around the waist ( but that might have more to do with lockdown 😜) The next pair I buy I’d prob go for the 50. Again Fjallraven have very comprehensive online size guides. So my recommendation is take some time to review the guides and read the customer reviews. Hope this helps. If you enjoyed this and like kit reviews; I’ll be doing more over the next few months. If you would be so kind as to subscribe; if you haven’t done already; that would be much appreciated. ATB Mark.
Hi - the Revolution Race are a 50/M which for me is fine as I’m a 34 waist. However I’m a short in the leg so they are a little too long - I’ve heard this said about RR trousers quite a bit - So my advice would definitely take some time to review their size guid (which is very helpful - I wished I’d taken the time) and also check out customers reviews on their website; which again are very informative. Hope this helps. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. If you liked the video; I’d be grateful if you’d be kind enough to subscribe. 👍 ATB Mark.
Interesting review mate thank you - I have literally the same exact 2 pairs of trousers like yourself and I WANT to prefer my Fjallravens, but the fit and styling of the Rev Races are just unbeatable. I love both pairs, but the Revs win for me.
Thanks Mike for sharing your thoughts. I see that Revolution Race; following a lot of customer feedback; have now brought out a shorter leg version across their range. They’re going to be unbeatable and give the competition something to think about. ATB Mark.
Hi mark,really like the look of the revolution race but I'm struggling on sizing. I'm 6'1" and wear a 36" waist usually. They look really long in the leg which isn't a deal breaker but I'd prefer a better fit. Appreciate any feedback 🙂
Hi Shaun - yes that was one my gripes with them - the were medium and the leg go with the waist size - my recommendation is to go on their web site and they have a very good section on their sizings - defo worth taking some time absorb that and also take a look at the reviews by customers. Other than that pretty decent pair of trousers for the money. Hope this helps you out. I’ll be doing a few more kit reviews in the next couple of months - would you mind dropping me a sub if you haven’t already and giving me a shout out 👍 trying to build my channel and every sub counts. Cheers Mark. Let me know how you get on 🤔
@@MarksGoneWalking I've been doing some digging for the past hour or so. I've gone for the gpx in dark olive in size XL. They have a 15% off sale today which is a bonus. The Fjallraven are a little out of my price range at the moment as I'm new to all this at the tender age of 31 🤣 I'll let you know when they arrive. Thanks for the reply, highly appreciated. 🙂
Hi Davy - these are the Gpx pants not the Gpx Pros - these are definitely not waterproof unless I guess you wax them; but as we both know then the breathability suffers. I have a pair of sprayway waterproofs which are great. Also just bought a pair of solognacs hunting trousers which I’m going to do a review of soon. Good luck with your search 👍
@@MarksGoneWalking thank you so much really appreciate, interesting the solognac also because I saw the model and is really interesting gonna look your video
Hi Tomaz - thanks for kind comments; much appreciated. The Revolution Race are a much tighter cut than the Fjallraven. I think on value for money Revolution Race wins; but I still love the Fjallraven’s and I guess that where a brand image comes into play. ATB Mark.
Revolution Race doesn’t offer a wide enough variety of sizes by waist/inseam as Fjallraven does. If a pair of hiking pants don’t fit perfectly, forget it. And you can’t get inseams tailored because you need the heel straps to be right. Revolution Race needs to up their game.
On my revolution race trousers, i have actually taken the elastic band out of bottom. They are far too tight even at ts widest. A bit rubbish really because the rest of the trouser is great
Hi Max - I do like my gear. Have most of what I need now for a while; having bought them over the last year or two; so well placed to do a honest review. Will be doing a few more over the next few weeks as we’re back in lockdown here in Wales 🏴. Hope you’re doing ok. ATB Mark.
A colleague of mine has some RevRace trousers and loves them. They don't make them in my size, though. I take a Euro 44L in Fjallraven but having worn through several pairs of Abisko Lites simply from walking in them (they wear out at the crotch) and the same with a pair of Vidda Pro - ruined in about 3 months, and also a pair of Kebs (6 months) I'm done wasting money on anything made from G-1000. After communicating with Fjallraven about this issue and facing a blank wall of denial from them I've gone back to softshells, which don't wear themselves out just from normal use. G-1000 is useless.
I very disappointing to hear about your experience with Fjallraven; yes they are very expensive. Can’t beat softshell I have few pairs myself; just did a review on a pair from regatta and absolutely love them. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts. ATB Mark.
@@MarksGoneWalking Hi, and thanks for your reply. I've had a pair of Montane Terra Missions for just over a year and they've withstood an amount of use that would have ruined two or three pairs of G-1000 trousers. Still as good as new, no deterioration of the fabric inside or out. Cheaper, well-fitting and much more durable. Recommended.
Are the Fjallraven overpriced, or was it deliberate to compare two pairs of trousers where one is twice the price of the other? It doesn't seem a completely fair comparison, although they're essentially used for the same purpose. I'd want a £150-200 pair of outdoor trousers to walk for me ;-) ...but favour the variety and fit of RR trousers.
Hi Joe - the price comparison was the main criteria for doing the review, basically wanted to know if twice the price really meant twice the quality or half the quality if you look at it a different way. If you take a look at my latest video on the Revolution Race Wander Pros you’ll see they have really upped their game in terms of the material quality. They’re my current go trousers for almost everything outdoors; but I’m still not discounting Fjallraven just yet? (No pun intended) but to answer your question that’s how much the Fjallraven’s are Priced at. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
Scarpa Gtx Rangers - had them for 3 years and they’re bullet proof ; totally waterproof. To be fair I do wax them and look after them, but I wouldn’t have anything else but Scarpas 👍
@@MarksGoneWalking Hey Mark, thank you very much for a nice video ... but I was interested in your Sunday hiking jacket ... unfortunately I don't see the brand on the video, could you please reveal which model it is?
Hi Antun; I’m wearing Scarpa GTX leather boots - quite a heavy boot and wide at the ankle. Both these trousers have no problem easily fitting over them. Hopes this helps you and thanks for watching. ATB Mark.
Hi Nico; in the length pretty much the same; note these trousers are cut long so take note of the sizes. I think both do them in short options if needed. I’m a 30 leg so short 😀. In terms of quality the Fjallraven just has the lead, but since buying the GP trousers I’ve since got a pair of Wander Pro trousers from RR and they are really good. As good as my Kebs I’d say. The RR are slightly more thinner in the leg. Good luck with your search. Thanks for watching. ATB Mark. Ps if buying a pair of Revolution Race I’d go for the more expensive options with zippered leg endings so you can get them over the boot. The GPx Pro Expedition offers that feature. The GP are cheapest and do not fit over your boot.
les RR sont tres solide et respirants et prix contenus,j ai commence avec des ronciers typés chasse pro pour foncer dans les forets moin respirant ,,,,
I own Fjällräven Barents Pro pants and tried different RR pants and I find all of them to be too narrow and too tight around my legs if i choose the right waist size. I am 184cm and 82kg and have normal legs (some biking, regular runner). RR just doesn't fit me comfortably. Fjällräven has the sweet spot for me. Moreover the pockes are way too small and tight, compared to the big pockets Fjällräven has RR is totally useless in that regard. Also the material is not as good. Well, I guess you get what you pay for. Btw: I own a fleece jacket and a softshell from RR and I like them a lot. I just like Fjällräven more. 😉
Hi Nash - thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. The material on these RR trousers were not as good and have faded somewhat; that said I’ve recently bought some RR Wander Pro trousers and I prefer them to Vidda Pros. I know what you mean about the length of RR as I’m not very tall and they are too long but I’ve put up with them. I note that RR have recently added a short option to their trousers range. Got my eye on Fjallraven Agile Kebs they look nice. ATB Mark and thanks again for commenting 👍
Iv had dollops of fjallraven seams undoing . Really cheeses you off when £160 pants are cheaply.made in vietnam ! And sold as swedish / norwegian outdoor gear , i need an alternative, theyre Not waterproof even waxed !
Hi Joe - that’s very disappointing; given how much they charge. I’ve recently bought some Solognac Hunting trousers 500s i think 🤔 anyway done another review on them and for £55 they are very good for bushcraft and hiking etc. I see Revolution Race have recently brought out a short version of some of their trousers; in my opinion they were far too long before so this sorts this problem out. Good luck with finding the right trouser for you. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
Likewise with Fjallraven trousers wearing themselves out at the seams, especially at the crotch. Several pairs. G-1000 is shit, but it's their signature material and Fjallraven are stuck with it, which is probably why they deny such an issue exists, basically shining me off when I complained about it.
I have the Kebs now and yes I do love the quality; I’d say RR is a very very close second; so their price makes them very attractive. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
Hard to find a decent pair of trousers had a pair of revolution race norward pants they were crap for the price ( they were not the pros) stupid tight lower legs small badly placed thigh pockets and the fabric reinforcements are thinner than the rest of the trousers! I sold them as not expressed. Haglofts trousers are ace tough but heavy and synthetic ( my fav bad weather pants) Montane alpine stretch are my go to mt walking pant ( old style) bomber can't wear them out ( I have tried!) But no thigh pockets. Best do everything day to day trousers hands down Helikon utp pants (cotton /polyester) or for a bit tougher the flex model ( cotton/ nylon) pockets are perfect in my opinion! Hard wearing ( pair lasts me 2 years of nearly constant wear in winter. And cheaper than fyallraven. Theres no way I would wear a trouser with cotton content in the MTS waxed or not they are crap slow to dry and uncomfortable when wet and heavy
Thanks for your reply some very useful tips In there. I’ll go and check out the Montane trousers. I do like Helikon some really good gear. Many thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍 . If you liked this video I’ll be doing more; and possibly you could drop me a sub as I’m trying to grow my channel. ATB Mark.
Hi Luke - these were the GP trousers the cheaper version not the GP Pro which have more features. Still a great pair of the trousers for the money apart from the leg openings which are a real challenge. Also Revolution Race (like everyone else) prices seem to be going thru the roof ; which makes the choice that more difficult. The Fjallraven are bomb proof. I’d only really buy RR if they are SALE. Hope this helps. ATB Mark.
Glasses case deeerrrf , theyre not the best .there are special opps pants whoop fjallraven in design strength water proof breathability . A little more expensive than kebs but three times the style and functionality , you wiuld have to jump in a lake to get wet in them
I have the RR Norwand and the Fjallraven's. RR are nowhere near the quality and durability of the Fjallraven's. RR started to fade after a couple of washes, horrible fit and sizing as well. Ive had the Fjallravens a few years now and theyre still looking good. The fjallravens will easily outlast 3 or 4 pairs of RR. You definitely pay for what you get. RR are good for the pub when youre camping and thats it. I'm a stingy Yorkshireman and i'll definitely be buying Fjallraven's again.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts - the fading on the RR does seem to be a particular problem. I have a pair Wander Pros and have had them a year; love them and they have Some really good features on them; but started to fade a little. Just bought new pair of Kebs and no suprises really impressed with them. After I’ve had them a few months going to do a comparison video between the 2. ATB And thanks again for taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
I have both trouser,think you should be testing against the norwand,not the gpx. Gpx more of a performance pants. I say the norwand a improved version of the fjallraven. Fjallraven really isn't worth the extra money,and in my opinion is really over priced and hyped. Revolution race is the future 👍💪🤣
Hi - thanks for comments. Interesting what you say about the Norwand I’ll take another look at these now. True enough Gpx prob more like a Keb trouser. Anyway thanks for taking the time to comment and share your thoughts 👍👍👍
Basically i have kebs vidda pros none keep you dry even waxed so yeah get the revolution race OR if you can afford the thrudark stuff raid trousers theyre the best around ..sas sbs tough . Theyre all ex special forces made .. you just cant buy better ...the thing that bugs me the most is how fjallraven can be sold as waterproof .. iv never had a pair that v kept me dry , ,iv probably thrown more worn pairs than most folk would ever buy .. tough yes NOT waterproof . Waxing clothes is like pre historic ..belstaff and barbour coats stay dry for years waxed .. fjallraven JUST DONT !!!! ,
now compare it to mammut and you will see how poor the quality of RR really is :) its just an overhyped influencer brand made in china, good enough to make a walk with your dog when its raining.
Revolution race is just not well made… falls apart from any real rugged use a lot faster, don’t fit and move very well. Whereas Fjallraven last for many years and just fit perfectly!
I own 3 pairs of pants and a jacket- All of them is terrible bad quility.... i bought 3 diffrent models pants in the same size, but they are all over the place in sizes. The Stretch material is ruined and filled with big holes and tears after 2 days of use, The Sticthing is horrible... Loose end, parts not being sewed, and patches that just fall off, couse the stiching did hold. The Colors just got super super dull , after a few washes. I allso bought a jacket, the Arms are soo slim, u barly can wear anyhthing under... and they arm area dont stop any wind or mosture at all... Im freezing to death when i wear it, but it look cool.... =( All in All, i CANT recomend RR Revolution Race gear at all! Its for show, not use.
Thanks for commenting; some interesting feedback on the RR; I have to agree with a lot of your points raised. They have some way to go on their quality control. I still like RR; they seem to improving the quality on some of the Newer trousers I’ve bought and working on some more technical jackets now. Interesting comments; appreciate it. ATB Mark.
Glad you enjoyed the review. So important to do these reviews thoroughly; I always refer to TH-cam before I spend my hard earned cash on outdoor gear and I like to share my honest thoughts on different products. ATB Mark.
Thanks for this in depth review. This is my first time watching your videos and I quite like your analysis and speech. Keep the good work coming ;)
Thanks for taking the time to evaluate these out in the field and let us know what you think of them Mark 😉
A lot of good points that you bring our attention to about each one 😉
I've seen too much Fjallraven stuff and know that there fit and finish is always top notch gear 👍
IMO..the Revolution looks good for summer wear, but you have to buy them one size bigger than what you would normally wear 😉
Cheers Ray - yes the Fjallraven is definitely top notch expensive, but very good quality and it shows. Think Revolution Race has some way to go; but I guess that’s why they’re so competitively priced and there colours and styles are very attractive too. Decisions; decisions 😂. While we’re back in Lockdown here in Wales 🏴 I’ll be doing a few of these reviews as I’ve had a lot of it for over a year now and can do I true review. ATB Mark.
Very true. However at the same time I see they hardly innovate on the fabric. I do recognise RevolutionRace are more aimed at Summer and target a different audience. If I would be a forester, without doubt Fjallraven all the way. However, hiking/backpacking for me is Revolution Race.
Just the video I needed has I’m deliberating between the two. Great vid
Cheers Lee - good luck finding the right trousers for you 👍 if you get a chance check out my video I’ve done on RR Wander Pros - great looking trousers. Not waterproof but
Like Fjallraven’s you can wax them and they’re much cheaper 👍
Hi Mark,
The reason Fjallraven have the hook that way is because a number of people didn't put the hook under the protective material and put their foot into the trouser and subsequently had their big toenail ripped off. Always be careful when you place your foot into the RR wander pants, ensure the hook is tucked away mate. I almost ripped my toenail off in my Gp pro rescue pants after using the hook the previous day after forgetting to tuck it away. Hope this helps and keep up the great content.
Atb Andy H
Cheers Andy ; yes since making this video have myself a few near misses with that hook. Still love my Vidda Pros and have also bought a pair of Kebs and a pair of RR Wander Pro. RR have a really upped their game. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
I always thought the fallravens were top notch and the best according to the TH-camr bushcraft people I watch. Just bought a pair of rvrc and its good to hear that they are comparible 👍
Looking at getting some new trousers next year, useful video! Thanks for sharing. Great comparison 🤗👍❤ just don't tell Kat! Atb 🤭
Glad you enjoyed the vid - thanks for watching; going to do a few more of these types of reviews. ATVB to you and Kat. Enjoy 👍🎄
Thanks for the review. I bought the Revolution Race GPX pants and I have no problem to get the velcro ends over my Salomon 500 GTX.
Cheers Mat - glad you enjoyed the review - interesting to hear about the Salomons will take a look again at the RR 👍 ATB Mark. New subscribers always welcome.
@@MarksGoneWalking Cheers Mark. Yes I really enjoyed it. I really like RR and my wife loves their stuff. I have some Fjällräven clothes like the Skogsö jacket. I also bought RR silence proshell jacket and it's really comfortable and really nice looking. I'm now a subscriber!
100% agree about the ends not going over mid boots, but otherwise they are great fit , revolution race i mean .
Hi Mark. Just to let you know that I returned my Gps pants the other day due to wear on the stitching at the end of both legs after have used them just a couple of times. I got great support from RR and bought a pair of Gpx pro pants jet black instead. I hope they will last longer in the stitching business than the Gpx pants.
Hi Mat - that’s interesting; someone else on here commented that the Gpx Pro we’re definitely a step up from the normal Gpx. Let us know how you get on with them; be interested to know. Thanks for watching and commenting. ATB Mark.
Great comparison vid, both look great, probably fjallraven slightly edge out RR
I’ve had the Vidda pros ( exactly the same as ones in the vid) and the RR trousers for a year or so now . I wear either of them every single day as I’m a gardener and have a small holding so I’m always in outdoor gear . The RR are the better trouser for value and fit . The knees and the crotch are starting to wear , durability and weather proof the Vidda pros are unmatched . However I do find myself grabbing the RR more often
Hi Justin; some interesting comments - funnily enough I tend to where my RR more than the Fjallraven’s for some reason; less heavy maybe 🤔 but the quality still not quite there with Fjallraven. ATB Mark.
Hi Mark ... thanks for the detailed comparison. I think RR have taken feedback seriously as it's December '22 and I've just bought this model and find no untidiness in the stitching and more importantly the elasticated velcro closure at the ankle seems more generous...I wear a size 12 high Altberg desert tabbing boot and the velcro closures enclose my boot tops and don't ride up in movement. I tend to use Hikenture waterproof fully zipped gaiters as well and along with a thin base layer thermal bottom half this outfit becomes a winter-proof rig. Without a base layer I can imagine they'll be fine for summer as well. As an aside I much prefer the velcro closure on the panel pockets to pop closure. They seem to last well and are easily managed with gloves on. I'm impressed with the cut and comfort of this model...I'm 6 foot, over 200lbs with fairly stocky thighs and calves and am still comfortable. Also like the semi elasticated waist allowing stretching movements where everything remains in the same place ! I've bought Forest Green and will be interested to see if the colour fades or stays after a few washes. Thanks again for the upload...appreciate how much work goes into making these videos. Happy holidays. Jay
Thanks Jay; glad you enjoyed the video. Interesting to hear your thoughts on recent RR kit - might have to grab myself a pair of Pros in the sales. ATB Mark.
Montane‘s super Terra trousers are also a contender! I like the Vidda pros, the good thing with them is they dry quickly, and it rains a lot here in Ireland.
Funnily enough just looking at a pair of those ; some good bargains to be had 👍 ATB Mark
@@MarksGoneWalking they are good! I like things to stay in my pockets!
Nice job. I've got plenty of great pairs of hiking trousers M.E ibex, arcteryx, marmot etc but I'd put my fjern vinter trousers up there with fjallraven for features, material and quality. The fjallraven look long on you and I hear you need to get them adjusted by a seamstress unless that's certain types. 👍
Thanks for watching Craig; glad you enjoyed the vid. I do like my M E gear too. Interesting about the Fjern was wondering what they were like; will definitely give them a look at. ATB Mark.
The adjustments only need to be done on the Barents Pro :) That's why you loose the boot hook and clinching ont that model
I’ve been using revolution race for a few years. I like them but total get what your saying about the lower leg. I’ve adjusted mine and fitted a every flap to expand the leg to get round my boots. Should not need to do that but I have got mine second hand from eBay. All good condition for on the homestead. I got a new pair of the hiball pants. They have the open zip and winter lining on soft shell fabric. The best ones for cold wet weather
Cheers and thanks for watching. I too have a pair of Wander Pro trousers which although are definitely not waterproof are a massive improvement on these Gp pair I previously had - that have a zipped leg ending; so in future I will only buy RR with this feature in them. I noticed today also they seem to
Pushing their prices up quite a bit - not sure if this be successful; as price was a major benefit before. Anyway thanks for passing by and glad you enjoyed the video. ATB Mark.
Thank you great review
Glad you enjoy it Mohamed. ATB Mark. 👍
The RR are more comparable to the Fjällräven Keb (not Vidda Pro) in terms of fit and use of stretch material. I have both the Vidda Pro and Keb, and use the Keb for hiking (i.e. walking a lot), and the Vidda for everything else in the woods. Hence, I only wax the Vidda to make them as resistent as possible, while the Kebs are more desgined for movement/breathability. I watched a few RR reviews, and I’m not sure about them. A lot of bigger outdoor channels het them for free/cooperation (with great reviews), while I’ve seen some other reviews that point out terrible stitching and quality control. It doesn’t mean RR are bad, just be careful when watching “reviews” on youtube.
Hi and thanks for your detailed response. Funnily enough since making this video I now have the Kebs and just bought a pair of RR Gpx Pro trousers; going to do a review and comparison on them in the next couple of months as they as you point out are the most closely types of trousers. I have noticed the quality of RR gear has also improved since I made this video. I recently paid £60 in the sale for the Gpx Pros in comparison to the £220 I paid for the Fjallraven Kebs. The G1000 and finish on the Kebs is hard to beat; but I have to admit I do love these new RR trousers and have been wearing them constantly. You’ve got me motivated to do my next comparison video now. ATB Mark.
Great vid mate. I have the gpx Pro pants and find they are much better than the gpx pants. It's night and day to me
Ah that’s interesting 🤔 thanks for letting me know. 👍 will be doing a few more of these reviews in the near future as I bought a lot of gear about 12 months ago. I’ll check out your channel and drop you a sub. ATB Mark
I have used Revolution race trousers now for a few years and my first pair is still going strong faded alittle some places but no tear or wear other then normal stuff so im sticking with those I do believe Fjallraven is some awesome pair aswell but the price is holding me back its like 3 pair of Revolution pants vs 1 pair of Fjallraven I would be to scared of using them if they got a tear out on the trail at that price so also why im sticking with the ones i have hehe
Hi and thanks for taking the time to comment - I like your philosophy- 3 pairs for the price
of 1 pair of Fjallraven’s 👍 ATB and thanks for watching.
If you enjoyed this review; plan to do more over the next few months. New subscribers always welcome 🙏
uk_ carrieoutdoors swears by them
❤ that fire mate good review
Mark is there any give in the waste in the pro wot r they like after a few recommended washers thank , mate
Rvgp pro have the press stud adjustment ant the bottom and the lace hook 95 quid
Love the look of the Revolution race. Would they be suitable for travelling around Switzerland on a family holiday or would it be overkill? I’ve only got syndrome jeans so far
Hi Gazza; I’ve recently bought the Wander Pro trousers which I absolutely love; I’ve also got their adrenaline jeans which are more of a casual trousers rather than for hiking which are in a solid olive colour. Both are very comfortable and wouldn’t look out of place. Enjoy Switzerland 🇨🇭 beautiful country. ATB Mark.
The RR trousers always look too long on everyone I've seen wearing them. Good in depth review 👍
Thanks Lee - glad you enjoyed it. Yes I agree the legs are very long and seem to ride up. May try another model ?
Better too long than too short. I need an M size for my waist, but lengthwise they could even be a tad longer....
@@foxbow90 Thanks for watching and the comment. My main gripe with the Revolution Race is the fact you can’t get them over your boots 🥾 apart from that I really like them?
@@MarksGoneWalking I can imagine. I never really wear hiking boots so I don't have that issue. Btw, the nordwand pants are a bit looser fit, maybe they suit better?
I had that issue with a pair that I bought. They should replace S/M/L type sizing with proper waist/inside leg sizing and offer short, regular and long leg.
Thanks Mark. How do they compare to the real cheap Solognac you bought? The look good value
To be honest the Solognac are excellent value for money - I’ve bought 2 different pairs and can’t fault them. Got to be said though the Fjallraven’s are in a league of their own. Thanks for watching 👍
Been walking in many places and climates (like many watching and the gentleman reviewing) and I have to go lighter and stretchier no matter what the weather especially here in the UK. I can imagine these pants being useful in really cold and dry conditions if you are fairly static. Otherwise they seem to me too warm, too inflexible and with all the seams, zips and studs just plain uncomfortable. Of course in real cold and with leggings under this would be less of a problem.
I have quiite a selection of Fjallraven and RevolutionRace. In the end I prefer Revolution Race for its design, colour combo's and of course value for money. Fjallraven is absolute top, but sometimes more emphasised on style and price.
Id try the rev race stuff iv tons of green pants 😀😀 sick of them .but toughest are percussion predator . Theyre on a different level of armoured keks , then theres the special opps brand like kebs but better thought out and normal leg lengths ( fjall let down) and waterproof,, iv vidda pro's with crotch hanging off , it happened days from new after paying for the legs to be taken up .. wouldnt have bothered but they had the studs and lace grips .. shame to waste all that tripe .. but the nads went and really cheeeeeesed me off. Kebs iv never had an issue with . Apart from leg lengths .. soi tried the special opps stuff wooow these are custom kebs but on another level , £300 zips everywhere fully waterproof ankle studs n lace clips . Vents with waterproof zips tops n bottoms im glad i tried them because they last, and do all lengths widths 😀😀😀 iv not tried rev race .
which model would you recomend as an hiking allrounder?
I absolutely love my Wander Pro pants they are very similar to the Keb pants but much cheaper. But be aware they are not waterproof; I have a video where I test them in pouring rain ☔️. Revolution Race have lots of water resistant and waterproof trousers - got my eye on some Cyclone or Silence Pro shell trousers next. Hope this helps and good
Luck with your search for your new trousers.ATB Mark
@@MarksGoneWalking thx
@@mrxy4254 You can't get wrong on any of the GP, Nordwand, or Wander collection. For heavy rain, you would still need additional gear like the Typhoon. I have the Typhoon but not used it yet.
I chose fjallraven because i didn't like narrow leg in rr, i was looking at helikon hybrid trousers but didn't have my size at the time.
Hi Dom ; thanks for watching. I agree Helikon are a good brand; I’ve been keeping an eye on too. Thanks for taking the time to time to comment. If you liked this video and want to se more of these reviews if you wouldn’t mind dropping me a sub; I’m trying to grow my channel. ATB Mark.
@@MarksGoneWalking i have couple of helikon budget trousers
M65 and some bdu, m65 are extremely durable and very comfortable, but baggy and when you going uphill and you are sweaty
The knee will rub catch on fabric.
The cheaper ones are durable too, but buttons have tendency to fall off
So i use kevlar thread to reinforce them. I will totally sub.
Hi Mark
How are the sizing on these 2 compared to a normal pair of trousers? I wear 36" jeans so was wondering whether to order L or XL. Nice review mate. keep up the good work
Hi Edward - I’m a waist 34 and the medium/50 fits me fine in the Revolution Race; but the leg length is a little too long. If you check out their site they have a very comprehensive guide with lots of customer reviews on fit. The Fjallraven Vidda Pros are a 48; slight snug around the waist ( but that might have more to do with lockdown 😜) The next pair I buy I’d prob go for the 50. Again Fjallraven have very comprehensive online size guides. So my recommendation is take some time to review the guides and read the customer reviews. Hope this helps. If you enjoyed this and like kit reviews; I’ll be doing more over the next few months. If you would be so kind as to subscribe; if you haven’t done already; that would be much appreciated. ATB Mark.
Similar to montanes terra pants.. which are excellent..zip feature and button cuff which goes over my Salomon gtx with ease.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts on the Montanes - good make. Might give them a look. ATB Mark.
Can I ask what size revolution race trousers you ordered and what waist/inside leg you are. Cheers.
Hi - the Revolution Race are a 50/M which for me is fine as I’m a 34 waist. However I’m a short in the leg so they are a little too long - I’ve heard this said about RR trousers quite a bit -
So my advice would definitely take some time to review their size guid (which is very helpful - I wished I’d taken the time) and also check out customers reviews on their website; which again are very informative. Hope this helps. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. If you liked the video; I’d be grateful if you’d be kind enough to subscribe.
👍 ATB Mark.
I like my Norwands
Interesting review mate thank you - I have literally the same exact 2 pairs of trousers like yourself and I WANT to prefer my Fjallravens, but the fit and styling of the Rev Races are just unbeatable. I love both pairs, but the Revs win for me.
Thanks Mike for sharing your thoughts. I see that Revolution Race; following a lot of customer feedback; have now brought out a shorter leg version across their range. They’re going to be unbeatable and give the competition something to think about. ATB Mark.
Hi mark,really like the look of the revolution race but I'm struggling on sizing. I'm 6'1" and wear a 36" waist usually. They look really long in the leg which isn't a deal breaker but I'd prefer a better fit.
Appreciate any feedback 🙂
Hi Shaun - yes that was one my gripes with them - the were medium and the leg go with the waist size - my recommendation is to go on their web site and they have a very good section on their sizings - defo worth taking some time absorb that and also take a look at the reviews by customers. Other than that pretty decent pair of trousers for the money. Hope this helps you out. I’ll be doing a few more kit reviews in the next couple of months - would you mind dropping me a sub if you haven’t already and giving me a shout out 👍 trying to build my channel and every sub counts. Cheers Mark. Let me know how you get on 🤔
@@MarksGoneWalking I've been doing some digging for the past hour or so. I've gone for the gpx in dark olive in size XL. They have a 15% off sale today which is a bonus. The Fjallraven are a little out of my price range at the moment as I'm new to all this at the tender age of 31 🤣 I'll let you know when they arrive. Thanks for the reply, highly appreciated. 🙂
@@shaun89lfc65 top tip don’t take the labels 🏷 off as if you do you can’t return them - check out their t&cs. Good Luck 👍
Hey Shaun, can you let us know how they fit as I’m 6’5” take a 35W & 34L. I was just about to pull the trigger as they do free returns...
@@t4nkman soon as they arrive I shall report back.
You should try some keela products especially the military kit 👍🏻
Hi - thanks for the recommendation; will check them out; I know they are used a lot by the police; services etc a lot. Well
Priced too. ATB Mark.
The gpx pro is waterproof ? I mean if I go fish like 5 hours under the rain... how I’m gonna be ? help please
Hi Davy - these are the Gpx pants not the Gpx Pros - these are definitely not waterproof unless I guess you wax them; but as we both know then the breathability suffers. I have a pair of sprayway waterproofs which are great. Also just bought a pair of solognacs hunting trousers which I’m going to do a review of soon. Good luck with your search 👍
@@MarksGoneWalking thank you so much really appreciate, interesting the solognac also because I saw the model and is really interesting gonna look your video
Hey, great review. How does sizing compare to Fjallraven. Bigger, smaller, same? :)
Hi Tomaz - thanks for kind comments; much appreciated. The Revolution Race are a much tighter cut than the Fjallraven. I think on value for money Revolution Race wins; but I still love the Fjallraven’s and I guess that where a brand image comes into play. ATB Mark.
Revolution Race doesn’t offer a wide enough variety of sizes by waist/inseam as Fjallraven does. If a pair of hiking pants don’t fit perfectly, forget it. And you can’t get inseams tailored because you need the heel straps to be right. Revolution Race needs to up their game.
The RVRC looks sooo much better!
On my revolution race trousers, i have actually taken the elastic band out of bottom. They are far too tight even at ts widest. A bit rubbish really because the rest of the trouser is great
That’s a good idea Pete - did it make any difference?
Certainly nice. Good professional grade pants... I am hardly professional...LOL
Hi Max - I do like my gear. Have most of what I need now for a while; having bought them over the last year or two; so well placed to do a honest review. Will be doing a few more over the next few weeks as we’re back in lockdown here in Wales 🏴. Hope you’re doing ok. ATB Mark.
A colleague of mine has some RevRace trousers and loves them. They don't make them in my size, though. I take a Euro 44L in Fjallraven but having worn through several pairs of Abisko Lites simply from walking in them (they wear out at the crotch) and the same with a pair of Vidda Pro - ruined in about 3 months, and also a pair of Kebs (6 months) I'm done wasting money on anything made from G-1000. After communicating with Fjallraven about this issue and facing a blank wall of denial from them I've gone back to softshells, which don't wear themselves out just from normal use. G-1000 is useless.
I very disappointing to hear about your experience with Fjallraven; yes they are very expensive. Can’t beat softshell I have few pairs myself; just did a review on a pair from regatta and absolutely love them. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts. ATB Mark.
@@MarksGoneWalking Hi, and thanks for your reply. I've had a pair of Montane Terra Missions for just over a year and they've withstood an amount of use that would have ruined two or three pairs of G-1000 trousers. Still as good as new, no deterioration of the fabric inside or out. Cheaper, well-fitting and much more durable. Recommended.
Are the Fjallraven overpriced, or was it deliberate to compare two pairs of trousers where one is twice the price of the other? It doesn't seem a completely fair comparison, although they're essentially used for the same purpose. I'd want a £150-200 pair of outdoor trousers to walk for me ;-) ...but favour the variety and fit of RR trousers.
Hi Joe - the price comparison was the main criteria for doing the review, basically wanted to know if twice the price really meant twice the quality or half the quality if you look at it a different way. If you take a look at my latest video on the Revolution Race Wander Pros you’ll see they have really upped their game in terms of the material quality. They’re my current go trousers for almost everything outdoors; but I’m still not discounting Fjallraven just yet? (No pun intended) but to answer your question that’s how much the Fjallraven’s are
Priced at. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
I got a pair of pentagon trousers triple stitched teflon coated polycotten lots of pockets and half the price of fallraven
Thanks for watching- I’ll have to check them out. 👍
I got the pentagon ranger 2 version there's also the more high-end tactical called the wolf but that's as much as fallraven
Hey Mark, which shoes did you use in this video?
Scarpa Gtx Rangers - had them for 3 years and they’re bullet proof ; totally waterproof. To be fair I do wax them and look after them, but I wouldn’t have anything else but Scarpas 👍
@@MarksGoneWalking Hey Mark, thank you very much for a nice video ... but I was interested in your Sunday hiking jacket ... unfortunately I don't see the brand on the video, could you please reveal which model it is?
Hi, please can you tell what boots are you wearing in this video?
Hi Antun; I’m wearing Scarpa GTX leather boots - quite a heavy boot and wide at the ankle. Both these trousers have no problem easily fitting over them. Hopes this helps you and thanks for watching. ATB Mark.
@@MarksGoneWalking Thank You!!!
Did you put your shirt on the wrong way?
btw, great review.
Good spot 😜 did it on purpose so to hide the branding on it , but well spotted - you have an eagle eye 👍 ATB Mark.
You missed out on the axe pocket on the fjallravens
Great review. How do the sizes compare?
Hi Nico; in the length pretty much the same; note these trousers are cut long so take note of the sizes. I think both do them in short options if needed. I’m a 30 leg so short 😀. In terms of quality the Fjallraven just has the lead, but since buying the GP trousers I’ve since got a pair of Wander Pro trousers from RR and they are really good. As good as my Kebs I’d say. The RR are slightly more thinner in the leg. Good luck with your search. Thanks for watching. ATB Mark. Ps if buying a pair of Revolution Race I’d go for the more expensive options with zippered leg endings so you can get them over the boot. The GPx Pro Expedition offers that feature. The GP are cheapest and do not fit over your boot.
@@MarksGoneWalking Hi Mark, thanks for the detailed answer. You got a new sub from this great and lengthy review.
les RR sont tres solide et respirants et prix contenus,j ai commence avec des ronciers typés chasse pro pour foncer dans les forets moin respirant ,,,,
I own Fjällräven Barents Pro pants and tried different RR pants and I find all of them to be too narrow and too tight around my legs if i choose the right waist size.
I am 184cm and 82kg and have normal legs (some biking, regular runner). RR just doesn't fit me comfortably. Fjällräven has the sweet spot for me.
Moreover the pockes are way too small and tight, compared to the big pockets Fjällräven has RR is totally useless in that regard.
Also the material is not as good.
Well, I guess you get what you pay for.
Btw: I own a fleece jacket and a softshell from RR and I like them a lot. I just like Fjällräven more. 😉
Hi Nash - thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. The material on these RR trousers were not as good and have faded somewhat; that said I’ve recently bought some RR Wander Pro trousers and I prefer them to Vidda Pros. I know what you mean about the length of RR as I’m not very tall and they are too long but I’ve put up with them. I note that RR have recently added a short option to their trousers range. Got my eye on Fjallraven Agile Kebs they look nice. ATB Mark and thanks again for commenting 👍
Iv had dollops of fjallraven seams undoing . Really cheeses you off when £160 pants are cheaply.made in vietnam ! And sold as swedish / norwegian outdoor gear , i need an alternative, theyre Not waterproof even waxed !
Hi Joe - that’s very disappointing; given how much they charge. I’ve recently bought some Solognac Hunting trousers 500s i think 🤔 anyway done another review on them and for £55 they are very good for bushcraft and hiking etc. I see Revolution Race have recently brought out a short version of some of their trousers; in my opinion they were far too long before so this sorts this problem out. Good luck with finding the right trouser for you. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
Likewise with Fjallraven trousers wearing themselves out at the seams, especially at the crotch. Several pairs. G-1000 is shit, but it's their signature material and Fjallraven are stuck with it, which is probably why they deny such an issue exists, basically shining me off when I complained about it.
I’d probably het the RR The Fjallravens are lovely but over twice the price of the RR
I have the Kebs now and yes I do love the quality; I’d say RR is a very very close second; so their price makes them very attractive. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. ATB Mark.
You used the wrong pans from rr as a comparison. You should have used the norwand pro.
Glasses cases inside pocket mesh fjalls have a knife pocket on left !!!!!
No comparison. Fjallravens are in a different league.
Hard to find a decent pair of trousers had a pair of revolution race norward pants they were crap for the price ( they were not the pros) stupid tight lower legs small badly placed thigh pockets and the fabric reinforcements are thinner than the rest of the trousers! I sold them as not expressed. Haglofts trousers are ace tough but heavy and synthetic ( my fav bad weather pants) Montane alpine stretch are my go to mt walking pant ( old style) bomber can't wear them out ( I have tried!) But no thigh pockets. Best do everything day to day trousers hands down Helikon utp pants (cotton /polyester) or for a bit tougher the flex model ( cotton/ nylon) pockets are perfect in my opinion! Hard wearing ( pair lasts me 2 years of nearly constant wear in winter. And cheaper than fyallraven. Theres no way I would wear a trouser with cotton content in the MTS waxed or not they are crap slow to dry and uncomfortable when wet and heavy
Thanks for your reply some very useful tips
In there. I’ll go and check out the Montane trousers. I do like Helikon some really good gear. Many thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍 . If you liked this video I’ll be doing more; and possibly you could drop me a sub as I’m trying to grow my channel. ATB Mark.
It says gpx but do you mean gp pro?
Hi Luke - these were the GP trousers the cheaper version not the GP Pro which have more features. Still a great pair of the trousers for the money apart from the leg openings which are a real challenge. Also Revolution Race (like everyone else) prices seem to be going thru the roof ; which makes the choice that more difficult. The Fjallraven are bomb proof. I’d only really buy RR if they are SALE. Hope this helps. ATB Mark.
flowerovens
I'm just not a fan of these pants with different colored panels. I prefer a monochromatic look.
Know where you’re coming from; in fact I was only looking at a solid pair of Olive coloured trousers the other week. Watch this space 🤔 ATB Mark.
Glasses case deeerrrf , theyre not the best .there are special opps pants whoop fjallraven in design strength water proof breathability . A little more expensive than kebs but three times the style and functionality , you wiuld have to jump in a lake to get wet in them
I have the RR Norwand and the Fjallraven's. RR are nowhere near the quality and durability of the Fjallraven's. RR started to fade after a couple of washes, horrible fit and sizing as well. Ive had the Fjallravens a few years now and theyre still looking good. The fjallravens will easily outlast 3 or 4 pairs of RR. You definitely pay for what you get. RR are good for the pub when youre camping and thats it. I'm a stingy Yorkshireman and i'll definitely be buying Fjallraven's again.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts - the fading on the RR does seem to be a particular problem. I have a pair Wander Pros and have had them a year; love them and they have
Some really good features on them; but started to fade a little. Just bought new pair of Kebs and no suprises really impressed with them. After I’ve had them a few months going to do a comparison video between the 2. ATB And thanks again for taking the time to comment.
ATB Mark.
I have both trouser,think you should be testing against the norwand,not the gpx. Gpx more of a performance pants.
I say the norwand a improved version of the fjallraven.
Fjallraven really isn't worth the extra money,and in my opinion is really over priced and hyped.
Revolution race is the future 👍💪🤣
Hi - thanks for comments. Interesting what you say about the Norwand I’ll take another look at these now. True enough Gpx prob more like a Keb trouser. Anyway thanks for taking the time to comment and share your thoughts 👍👍👍
The nordwand pro is better to compare to the Vidda Pro.
Good shout Robin - may get a pair to do a follow up comparison. ATB Mark.
Basically i have kebs vidda pros none keep you dry even waxed so yeah get the revolution race OR if you can afford the thrudark stuff raid trousers theyre the best around ..sas sbs tough . Theyre all ex special forces made .. you just cant buy better ...the thing that bugs me the most is how fjallraven can be sold as waterproof .. iv never had a pair that v kept me dry , ,iv probably thrown more worn pairs than most folk would ever buy .. tough yes NOT waterproof . Waxing clothes is like pre historic ..belstaff and barbour coats stay dry for years waxed .. fjallraven JUST DONT !!!! ,
Cheers Joe; will check out the thrudark kit; thanks for commenting. ATB Mark.
now compare it to mammut and you will see how poor the quality of RR really is :) its just an overhyped influencer brand made in china, good enough to make a walk with your dog when its raining.
Love Mammut - got a fleece of theirs and yes agree top quality gear - thanks for commenting. ATB Mark.
Revolution race is just not well made… falls apart from any real rugged use a lot faster, don’t fit and move very well. Whereas Fjallraven last for many years and just fit perfectly!
Fallraven gear is crap now.
I own 3 pairs of pants and a jacket-
All of them is terrible bad quility.... i bought 3 diffrent models pants in the same size, but they are all over the place in sizes.
The Stretch material is ruined and filled with big holes and tears after 2 days of use,
The Sticthing is horrible... Loose end, parts not being sewed, and patches that just fall off, couse the stiching did hold.
The Colors just got super super dull , after a few washes.
I allso bought a jacket, the Arms are soo slim, u barly can wear anyhthing under... and they arm area dont stop any wind or mosture at all... Im freezing to death when i wear it, but it look cool.... =( All in All, i CANT recomend RR Revolution Race gear at all! Its for show, not use.
Thanks for commenting; some interesting feedback on the RR; I have to agree with a lot of your points raised. They have some way to go on their quality control. I still like RR; they seem to improving the quality on some of the Newer trousers I’ve bought and working on some more technical jackets now. Interesting comments; appreciate it. ATB Mark.
Thanks for this in depth review. This is my first time watching your videos and I quite like your analysis and speech. Keep the good work coming ;)
Glad you enjoyed the review. So important to do these reviews thoroughly; I always refer to TH-cam before I spend my hard earned cash on outdoor gear and I like to share my honest thoughts on different products. ATB Mark.