His Year(s): Pompey (56 to 52 B.C.E.)

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  • @HistoriaCivilis
    @HistoriaCivilis  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3030

    That's definitely not how you pronounce Domitius.

  • @olefredrikskjegstad5972
    @olefredrikskjegstad5972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2665

    "Pompey had gone mad with power"
    Well, of course he had. Have you ever tried going mad without power? Nobody listens to you.

    • @Prich319
      @Prich319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      If power corrupts, then absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    • @jasondaveries9716
      @jasondaveries9716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Wait where have I heard that line...

    • @olefredrikskjegstad5972
      @olefredrikskjegstad5972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@jasondaveries9716 The Simpsons Movie

    • @luboslier347
      @luboslier347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Prich319 lol... not true! Anything absolute is uncorruptable by definition.

    • @kapitan19969838
      @kapitan19969838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheeky bastard

  • @foxplot7287
    @foxplot7287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +803

    "Who should go instead?" "Crassus!" "Crassus?!" *broken record*
    Making my day, thank you.

  • @YoubTheTuber
    @YoubTheTuber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +726

    "His year"
    "Wife dies"

    • @henrylansing9734
      @henrylansing9734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Clearly not his wife's year

    • @sjsbviufvibwvuspi
      @sjsbviufvibwvuspi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@henrylansing9734 mans finally free

    • @Yrkr785
      @Yrkr785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Which one he had 5

    • @Itsprincesweets
      @Itsprincesweets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Yrkr785 Julius Caesar's daughter

    • @chrisrubin6445
      @chrisrubin6445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With Julia dead, he had no familial ties to Caesar, and was free to plot and war against him. Not that it would turn out well for the guy, head on a silver platter and all.

  • @RacinZilla003
    @RacinZilla003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1474

    These little boxes all deserve Oscars for their dedicated and incredible performance!
    Especially the heartbreaking scene between Julia and Pompey

    • @nejiniisan1265
      @nejiniisan1265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      The elephant box was good also

    • @simonpeter5032
      @simonpeter5032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      *not pictured*

    • @JohnDoe-vi1im
      @JohnDoe-vi1im 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That scene sparked more emotion in me than 99.99% of everything hollywood has ever created.

    • @udozocklein6023
      @udozocklein6023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnDoe-vi1im but.... is Gladiator the 0,01%?

  • @DedalusStew
    @DedalusStew 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2043

    Are ya ready kids!? Aye, aye, imperator! Ooooh... who's starving the people of Rome to death? Pompey, Pompey! Who wants to start a campaign in the East? Pompey, Pompey!

    • @M_Chen333
      @M_Chen333 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Spongebob?

    • @AlphaSections
      @AlphaSections 6 ปีที่แล้ว +277

      M. Chen, No, it's Imperator Spongebob, sole Consul of Rome and de facto Proconsul of Hispania.

    • @martonk
      @martonk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      XD

    • @planetsized
      @planetsized 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      underrated

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Somehow I've managed to imagine something other than spongebob; With the same melody

  • @UndrState
    @UndrState 7 ปีที่แล้ว +641

    Hey , I have a request : can you explore the time of Sulla , Marius and so on ? We so often hear of Caesar's time ( not just you , generally ) , but so little about the run up that formed him .

    • @arturwojciechowicz3124
      @arturwojciechowicz3124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      explore times o f Gracchi bros.

    • @Hugh_Morris
      @Hugh_Morris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      This period you both mentioned is greatly expanded upon in The Storm Before the Storm by Mike Duncan

    • @UndrState
      @UndrState 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Hugh_Morris -
      *Looks up book*
      *Sees it's recommended by Dan Carlin*
      **Purchase**

    • @vulpes7079
      @vulpes7079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Honestly he should have started way back from Rome's founding

    • @TheAlmightyAss
      @TheAlmightyAss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He probably should too considering a lot of his videos take place around the time of the fall of the republic, the actions of the Gracchi, Sulla and Marius are instrumental to setting this time period up?

  • @ChristopherBuzzard
    @ChristopherBuzzard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1055

    THE most underrated channel on youtube. No other has managed to completely fascinate me in a subject I used to find so boring

    • @codekillerz5392
      @codekillerz5392 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Normally, I wouldn't advertize on another person's channel, but you should check out BazBattles. They have even fewer subscribers than Historia Civilis.

    • @maxradke2189
      @maxradke2189 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      +CodeKillerz Baz Battles is good at showing the battles (what a suprise), but he severely lacks in the politics of nations and war. In other words, baz is like hearts of iron 4, and historia civilis is like Victoria 2.

    • @solocca5436
      @solocca5436 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Victoria 2 and hearts of iron 4 themes play*

    • @pierresihite8854
      @pierresihite8854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxradke2189 Johan Waltz starts playing

    • @FantasticKruH
      @FantasticKruH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      AND HE DOES IT WITH COLORED SQUARES

  • @Nerdwriter1
    @Nerdwriter1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1719

    This is one of my favorite channels.

    • @plifal7799
      @plifal7799 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      No fucking way. You watch Historia Civilis??

    • @lordhumungus6279
      @lordhumungus6279 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      you are a fantastic person

    • @victortisme
      @victortisme 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mixed feelings about your own videos, but nice tastes right here

    • @texaskosmonawt9987
      @texaskosmonawt9987 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fancy to see you here! :D

    • @shortcutDJ
      @shortcutDJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Evan, good taste. as always.

  • @TransSappho
    @TransSappho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    A cool side note is that the Domitius mentioned here is actually Domitius Ahenobarus, the same Domitius Ahenobarbus who later gave Caesar so much trouble in the civil war

  • @johnsierra3537
    @johnsierra3537 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2211

    It's almost outstanding how corrupt the Republic was during Caesar's time. It's no wonder that it fell apart, and that an opportunist like Caesar was able to manipulate such a broken and apathetic political scene.

    • @MidnightSvn
      @MidnightSvn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +302

      caesar did nothing wrong.

    • @user-lq1jc6wf5m
      @user-lq1jc6wf5m 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      The Italian Republic, 2000 years after Rome, is still a corrupt shithole, maybe more than ever. Democracies ruined Europe

    • @axelandersson6314
      @axelandersson6314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      Analisi Videoludica Are you a Communist? a Monarchist? a Fascist? a Paternal autocrat? or just a shit-poster?

    • @Caerere
      @Caerere 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      It was broken, but it wasn't apathetic

    • @user-lq1jc6wf5m
      @user-lq1jc6wf5m 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@axelandersson6314 Do you know my country better than myself? Or are you just a virtue-signaler?

  • @beuxdmitrich7916
    @beuxdmitrich7916 7 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    Golden opportunity missed @ 14:10
    "Is that legal?"
    "I will make it legal!"

    • @daesoulae
      @daesoulae 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      XD

    • @M_Chen333
      @M_Chen333 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Alternatively:
      "Is that legal?"
      "WELL IT'S LEGAL NOW!!!"

    • @justafaniv1097
      @justafaniv1097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      "But the senate will never approve!"
      "I AM the Senate!"

    • @willmunoz1638
      @willmunoz1638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justafaniv1097 not yet

  • @MichaelSmith-ij2ut
    @MichaelSmith-ij2ut ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Clodius' wife was Fulvia, who would later marry Mark Antony and who definitely wasn't murdered by Antony. Clodius and Fulvia's daughter was Claudia, who became Antony's stepdaughter. During the Second Triumvirate's forming, she was offered by Antony to Octavian as his first wife.

  • @richardrutter9605
    @richardrutter9605 7 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    Something tells me that betraying Caesar is the worst possible course of action.

    • @fristnamelastname5549
      @fristnamelastname5549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Because, it piss off Ceaser, and everyone knows that if you piss off Ceaser, it ends badly of you.

    • @TheGreenTaco999
      @TheGreenTaco999 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      betraying someone who owns 8 legions is a pro strat

    • @vulpes7079
      @vulpes7079 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It worked. Once.

  • @kekero540
    @kekero540 7 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    "I have the most unparalleled military career in the republic!!"
    (Caesar conquers Gaul the arch enemies of the romans since the beginning of time)
    "Shit!"

    • @jaredspence3020
      @jaredspence3020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Pompey helped pacify Hispania, returned to Rome to defeat Spartacus, all but ended piracy in the Mediterranean and defeated Mithridates in the East, along with other military feats. What were you saying about Caesar again?

    • @pericles5367
      @pericles5367 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Not to mention his earlier victories in North Africa (which is when he earned the title of "the Great" in the first place), his annexation of Syria, and his turning of Judea into a client kingdom.

    • @811chelseafc
      @811chelseafc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jared Spence I think he was saying Caesar beat Pompey despite the latter having every advantage imaginable.

    • @misaspasic4295
      @misaspasic4295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@jaredspence3020 Pompey didnt defeat Spartacus,Crassus did.

    • @Heligoland360
      @Heligoland360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@jaredspence3020 Then Caesar defeats Pompey in Battle despite being outnumbered.

  • @pyry1948
    @pyry1948 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3624

    "A conservative named Milo" some things don't change

    • @arthurobrien7424
      @arthurobrien7424 7 ปีที่แล้ว +236

      Many things don't change. That's the point of conservatism. HC also has a video were he talks how Rome was a sword free zone.

    • @ZenizhivGreen
      @ZenizhivGreen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +264

      Arthur O'Brien Do you know what a joke meant?

    • @ZenizhivGreen
      @ZenizhivGreen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Benjamin Rogers Milo did say he was the 'predator' not in a joke manner

    • @ongobongo8333
      @ongobongo8333 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Wonder if this one diddles kids too

    • @khorps4756
      @khorps4756 7 ปีที่แล้ว +235

      "shouting obnoxious chants to drown out pompey"
      yep, some things never change

  • @JohnsonLobster
    @JohnsonLobster 7 ปีที่แล้ว +462

    Best use of the word "coincidentally".

    • @fandielyas
      @fandielyas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      hahahahaha I exploded too

    • @konradplatt3833
      @konradplatt3833 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      same with this "bad omens"^^

  • @slydessertfox6267
    @slydessertfox6267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Pompey had gone mad with power"
    "This was also Pompey's first day as consul"

  • @YourTypicalMental
    @YourTypicalMental 7 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Now I can start to see why Caesar marched on Rome.

    • @Badbentham
      @Badbentham 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah: When Caesar left to Gaul: Everything Gucci. In the meantime: The Conservative hard-liners under the pretext of "restoring order"
      once again assumed full political control, like under Sulla, and made Pompey their new champion and quasi-dictator.
      - Well, Caesar, congrats : You have become the new Rome's Most Wanted!

  • @kennayres6132
    @kennayres6132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I'm a HUGE history buff, particularly Greco-Roman history, and the middle ages. Came across your channel by accident and have been binge watching ever since. I love the slight comedic touches you add while telling a very accurate tale of history. Please keep up the great work you do.

  • @JackofWar
    @JackofWar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +309

    The beauty of politics. Obtaining power is more important than staying true to one ideology.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      I would not say Pompey ever had an ideology, he just was into power.

    • @Thorntonian
      @Thorntonian 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He may have liked power, but anyone who would tell Sulla to his face that he was past his prime probably wasn't too bothered about keeping it.
      He really was a modern-day alexander- everything he did, he did for his own legacy and glory. The power was a nice bonus.

    • @Azoonaloc13
      @Azoonaloc13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Tell that to Cato, my man.

    • @MephLeo
      @MephLeo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Ideology comes with indoctrination. The ideology of these men was that, no matter what, the legacy of Rome, and with it the legacy of their families and their own, must live on no matter what. That was what they were raised to believe since young age as patricians. Everything else was circumstantial.

    • @zerosaber257
      @zerosaber257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao ideology is for the pawns

  • @fristnamelastname5549
    @fristnamelastname5549 7 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    I smell a Civil War.

    • @konradplatt3833
      @konradplatt3833 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Alea jacta est. at this point already.

    • @krims0n605
      @krims0n605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hmm thats civil war your smelling

    • @nickcara97
      @nickcara97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s a fine nose you’ve got there

    • @richardthompson776
      @richardthompson776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah

  • @caesaraugustus3749
    @caesaraugustus3749 7 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    Oh all the people from this late era Roman republic, I feel Pompey has it the worst. Practically forgotten by history in the mainstream lexicon because his contemporary was Julius Caesar.

    • @brydonthunder
      @brydonthunder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Pompey is one of the most recognized Romans in history, he hasn't been forgotten at all; it's just... Julius Caesar is likely the most or one of the most famous people of all time; quite literally on par with jesus.

    • @shade7648
      @shade7648 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      SilverHints “on par with Jesus” not even close buddy when Caesar’s gets billions of people to follow him and worship him today then and only then would he be close to Jesus’s standards, his no where close I doubt the majority of the world knows who Caesar is

    • @benjammin9471
      @benjammin9471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Shade one was a great leader who was unjustly murdered before his time...the other was an overhyped Jew

    • @tremedar
      @tremedar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@benjammin9471 If he even existed at all and wasn't just a fictional character created to serve as the protagonist in a book of fairy tales which stood as the centerpiece of one of mankind's many thousands of bullshit religions.

    • @dylandavis6144
      @dylandavis6144 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Shade In the sense of people knowing his name yeah I’d say Julius Caesar is on par with Christ and George Washington

  • @Kanner111
    @Kanner111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Pompey: "My politics are: whoever's daughter I'm fucking rules."

    • @adm_ezri
      @adm_ezri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a comma would really help there, lol

  • @Ben-zg5xb
    @Ben-zg5xb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Dictator didn't mean the same thing to Romans as it does to us. It doesn't mean ruler, it's someone who is granted temporary emergency powers in times of crisis. They did not want Pompey to be emperor or something

    • @sol2544
      @sol2544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @New_Account well, a lot of roman dictators actually did follow that rule. They gave up their positions when done with the crises.
      The famous ones are, well, famous for a reason, but they werent exactly the norm.

    • @pierresihite8854
      @pierresihite8854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sol2544 yep like Cincinatus

    • @UrosDrljaca
      @UrosDrljaca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like Palpatine?

    • @grammaticus2800
      @grammaticus2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Originally the office of dictator didn’t have a negative connotation among Romans (think of an exemplar like Cincinnatus to understand how it was supposed to work), and clearly in an emergency situation like the one we see here in 52BC, many Romans still considered the dictatorship an option in combating a crisis, but the city’s collective memory must have winced, considering how great a change there had been since Cincinnatus’-plenty of Romans would remember that just 30 years prior to 52BC Sulla had taken on the dictatorship and subsequently enacted his infamous proscriptions.

  • @EvelynnEleonore
    @EvelynnEleonore 7 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Pompey could accept no man greater than him, and Caesar could accept no equal to him

    • @nickcara97
      @nickcara97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Leo Willenberg id say the other way around at this point but that works too

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nickcara97 come on you really think that Pompey would have just given up power had he beaten Caesar? Only difference if he won is Rome splits up faster because without a clear successor with a strong cult of personality that Octavian turned into Augustus, you'd have a bunch of generals and Senators who have zero incentive to work together and would be quick to follow the example that Sertorious laid out. And who would stop them? Rome still exists but the Senate's authority would be ornamental at best but without a unified central command so a warring states period where everyone is still Roman but no one agrees on top leadership. This continues until smaller states are combined into 3 or 4 top competitors and then maybe a delayed imperial Rome but just as likely a permanently fractured series of successor states like after Alexander or 3rd century China.

  • @jy3n2
    @jy3n2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    14:10 "This was super duper illegal."
    "Stop quoting laws to us who carry swords."

  • @chrisleonard2066
    @chrisleonard2066 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    As for when the Senate does things “illegally”, one must remember they essentially acted under the constitutional principle of Parliamentary Sovereignty. That means when there’s a contradiction of legislation, the newest piece of legislation supersedes the older one in so far as that contradiction applies to the preceding Act.
    So technically the will of the senate is the law so long as the law itself was passed legally under the laws that prescribe parliamentary procedure (ie. a law that was passed when a quorum wasn’t reached would be illegitimate)

    • @niccolorichter1488
      @niccolorichter1488 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Roman senate dint have lagislative authority . Plebian council did .

    • @codekillerz5392
      @codekillerz5392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@niccolorichter1488 How are you defining legislative authority?

    • @niccolorichter1488
      @niccolorichter1488 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@codekillerz5392Power to pass laws

    • @codekillerz5392
      @codekillerz5392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@niccolorichter1488 How are you defining law?

    • @niccolorichter1488
      @niccolorichter1488 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@codekillerz5392 look the Senete only passed senatus consultum meaning senetes advice tho IT was more of a decree
      But the Plebian Council passed Lex wich in latin means Law
      The Roman senete didnt even tried to claim they have the Power to pass laws they just proclaimed Pompey to be Consul without any legal Authority to do so

  • @Tom-qx2hy
    @Tom-qx2hy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +446

    C O N S O L E OF ROME

    • @ave789
      @ave789 7 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      SHAME ON THE HOUSE OF PTOLEMY

    • @NoahWeaverRacing
      @NoahWeaverRacing 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Thomas Gungor it's Consul not "console" like an Xbox one

    • @NoahWeaverRacing
      @NoahWeaverRacing 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      oh i didn't know haha good meme

    • @M_Chen333
      @M_Chen333 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I think this is a pun on "sole" because Pompey was sole consul of Rome.

    • @simonpeter5032
      @simonpeter5032 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      con sul

  • @TheRagingStorm98
    @TheRagingStorm98 7 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    love the Nato symbol for war Elephant

    • @aivinni9838
      @aivinni9838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      he made that up in his video on the battle of zama

    • @efeghilmffdsee5216
      @efeghilmffdsee5216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Zachary Durocher he was providing an extra tidbit of info.

  • @akrybion
    @akrybion 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Mother, bring the olive oil! Historia Civilis has uploaded again!

  • @bificommander7472
    @bificommander7472 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The His Year videos are my favorites. We got a lot of years in one go here. Too bad there won't be many more like that, given what comes next.

  • @DylanDude
    @DylanDude 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I adore how much of a continuing story you turn each of these episodes into. Can't wait for the next one.

  • @jorgequintanapoetry
    @jorgequintanapoetry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am heavily enjoying Caesar's playlist. Thank you so much for all this information. Your vocal delivery and graphic video format is engaging and helpful with following the historical plot.

  • @jerankorak7997
    @jerankorak7997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    This creates an extremely interesting historical 'what if?' scenario. What if Pompey, not Crassus, went on a campaign against the Parthians?

    • @stefanopiroddi2687
      @stefanopiroddi2687 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      He would have probably won and conquered Parthia, and just by this he would have become the next Alexander. At that point it would have been difficult even for Ceasar to defeat him.

    • @sextuspompeius1266
      @sextuspompeius1266 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      An actual good battle not a "hey let's stay in a square so they can circle us"

    • @adalgisounoqualunque9033
      @adalgisounoqualunque9033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@stefanopiroddi2687 i think he actually did not overcome Caesar in military genius. When the 2 squared off, yes, Pompey first defeated Caesar, but then at Pharsallus he was completely annihilated. So yes, Pompey was a genius, but Caesar is still Caesar.
      Then again I dont believe Pompey could have beaten the Parthis, cause they were never beaten by the Romans, even in following centuries, their empire was just way too massive for Rome to control and subdue. Easy as that.

    • @stefanopiroddi2687
      @stefanopiroddi2687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@adalgisounoqualunque9033 I think too that Caesar was the better military genius, but Pompey was a master at the political game. Caesar basically seized his opportunity to rally the people and those loyal to him after Crassus went kaputt. But if Crassus had not decimated the legions in Syria, the political momentum would have still been on Pompey's side. All Pompey had to do was to play conservatives and plebes alike to portray Caesar as a power-crazed general (which, in fact, Caesar always was). By then, it would have been Caesar and his legions against the entire rest of the Roman Republic. Simply too much, even for the might and mastermind of Caesar.
      As for the Parthians: you are right that probably Parthia would have not been conquered. But Pompey wouldn't have made the same mistake Crassus did when he said nada to the Armenian help. Notwithstanding that Crassus was still an incompetent idiot. Pompey would have manuevered much more subtly and would have never met the Parthians in open field without Armenian cavalry archer support. I personally think Pompey would have succeed in at least bringing a significant victory for Rome, signing a treaty of peace with Parthia and would have went back to Rome to enjoy a THIRD triumph, something unheard of that would have made him the most celebrated Roman of all time.
      Another thing: while we do remember Pharsalus as a decisive victory for Caesar, if we look at the battle itself, Pompey did nothing wrong. He had the larger force, he had the hill protecting him. His mistake was to think that every soldier is equal, he underestimated veterans fighting for a cause larger than themselves. The veteran reserves of Caesar army had much better experience and were more attached to Caesar than Pompey's troops were to him. Those veterans overturned his cavalry and crushed Pompey's line, securing the battle for Caesar. But was something that, while it should have been taken into account, was minor compared to the tactics of the battle themselves. In the end, it was Pompey's rush to the battle (probably ill advised both by his old age and by the Senators with him) that undid him and his genius. If he had stayed on the hill, Caesar would have probably starved to death along with his troops. Caesar's mastermind was to gain the momentum and turn it around on Pompey's when all for Caesar seemed lost.

    • @professornikos4905
      @professornikos4905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@adalgisounoqualunque9033 I am pretty sure Trajan occupied all of modern Iraq from the Parthians and kept during his reign.

  • @JonatasAdoM
    @JonatasAdoM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "If I win I'll bring world peace! _and recall Caesar from Gaul_ "

  • @mrdredward129
    @mrdredward129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Pompey's popularity continued to rise" I think you meant to say his... *Pompeylarity*

  • @BenEllandHunt
    @BenEllandHunt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love these videos so much, a really great way of visualising Ancient Rome and its politics! Thanks for making this series and i can't wait for the next instalment!!

  • @hydromancer4916
    @hydromancer4916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Clodius was killed"
    Never has one sentence sounded so beautiful.

    • @hosseynshanbehzaadeh9342
      @hosseynshanbehzaadeh9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      From the moment he started speaking about Clodius' shenanigans on this channel, I told to myself "This dude is either gonna be a monarch or be killed. I've never heard the name of such a would-be-consequential monarch as 'Clodius', therefore he must have been killed."
      Then I sighed of relief.

  • @SunStar64
    @SunStar64 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey. I love your videos and it has helped me immensely on a lot of personal projects of mine as well as understanding how the Roman armies operated and whatnot. I've recommended a lot of my mates to this channel, who happen to love it. Keep it up!

  • @jonwhan3572
    @jonwhan3572 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I look forward to these videos more than any other content on TH-cam. great stuff!

  • @originaljunglesound1
    @originaljunglesound1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    love the graphic you used to show Clodius' bribes. Shooting them with gold haha

  • @aidanbob2048
    @aidanbob2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I decided to take a swig every time a politician does something illegal. I am very drunk.

  • @jkelsey555
    @jkelsey555 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seeing a new Historia Civilis post always makes my day

  • @ahmadawad5292
    @ahmadawad5292 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes! finally ive been waiting a minute for this, good work! Historia civilis

  • @iw3892
    @iw3892 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like how all the videos are starting to fit together.

  • @ShrimpBarbarian
    @ShrimpBarbarian 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seriously look forward to your videos. Your storytelling abilities and your wealth of knowledge really inspire me.

  • @tretolien1195
    @tretolien1195 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seriously love your videos about ancient Roman politics, they´re are incredibly well put together and are both entertaining and educational!
    Your channel really does deserve to be more well-known. I mean who else than you could possibly make ancient Roman politics interesting, let alone entertaining!

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    10:57 What I kept wondering was: "with violence on the streets and corrupt elections", why did the Roman people not consider looking to Cicero to solve the problem instead of Pompey? Dealing with violence and bribery in the political process, maintaining stability, and even the need for a Senatus Consultum Ultimum...sounds a lot like Cicero's year as consul. Besides, just in the abstract, in the situation Rome was in, someone with a proven track record of promoting order and stability who also isn't closely aligned with either of the two factions inciting violence...sounds like the candidate I'd go for. And having previously served in 63 BCE, Cicero would have become eligible to run again in 54 BCE to hold office in 53, exactly the point where all this is happening.
    Instead, to solve the problems of violence on the streets and corrupt elections, the Romans turned to the person who had just conducted a corrupt, violent election.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Cicero was a Pompey supporter.

    • @Wolfeson28
      @Wolfeson28 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hmm, I guess that would explain it. I didn't pick that up from the video (Cicero is only mentioned once here), but obviously this video doesn't mention everything.

    • @Arkangel630
      @Arkangel630 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      By this point Cicero had been forced to play along with the triumvirate's games. See 58 and 57 BCE.

    • @genericyoutubeaccount579
      @genericyoutubeaccount579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Wolfeson28 Cicero's independence was increasingly restricted by the Triumvirate ever since the Triumvirate got rid of his banishment. Cicero could not say anything negative about those three men or they might turn Clodius on him again. So that is why Pompey got to be dictator. In that sense, Clodius really made Cicero's life hell and reduced his political power even in defeat.

  • @MarxLynx
    @MarxLynx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really love you're videos, they're always so interesting. You make history come alive with little squares. I like how you describe a lot of the events and interactions using modern language and idioms. It makes ancient Romans seem relatable somehow. Milo hearing not guilty: "WTF"

  • @rickstinkt9930
    @rickstinkt9930 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    always a delight to see your vids pop up

  • @QWE2623
    @QWE2623 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My god, this channel is so good. Watching the videos in chronological order is such an educational experience. Way better than skimming wikipedia pages. I will be watching every new upload from now on :)

  • @azizwnajem9376
    @azizwnajem9376 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "His year" are usually the best videos.

  • @jim4671
    @jim4671 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Pompey, oh Pompey. Getting on Caesar's bad side is never a good Idea.

  • @joshuaeadon1465
    @joshuaeadon1465 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are amazing. There needs to be more in depth dramas based around this time period, its fascinating. Keep them coming! :D

  • @jimmy_octane
    @jimmy_octane 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so happy I found this channel. Thanks for all this cool content.

  • @Blacksmith__
    @Blacksmith__ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love you, man! Going to start supporting your Patreon. :)

  • @theZXDgames
    @theZXDgames 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THIS WAS UPLOADED ON MY BIRTHDAY!!! :D Best gift ever

  • @michaelmiller6151
    @michaelmiller6151 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel is absolutely fantastic. I cannot wait for the next installment.

  • @dariuswilkins4984
    @dariuswilkins4984 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always brings me great joy whenever a new video comes out.

  • @juanmanuelborrero2250
    @juanmanuelborrero2250 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am glad to see that you are still keeping the symbol for the war elephant introduced in the Zama eipisode :)

  • @PolluxA
    @PolluxA 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You have the best channel on TH-cam!

  • @PlebCentral
    @PlebCentral 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could sit and watch these videos for hours and hours and hours. Thank you so much for the time you put into these.

  • @CostaCola
    @CostaCola 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just WOW this channel blows me away!

  • @JaLiberal
    @JaLiberal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    When we will hear about our friend Crassus and his golden throat?

  • @axelferguson4554
    @axelferguson4554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your videos m8 i dont always agree with your points but some very interesting stories never the less

  • @ChandlerTV100
    @ChandlerTV100 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how you're structuring this story, it's fantastic

  • @theREALchriszito
    @theREALchriszito 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    every new video is a gift, truly thank you. you do amazing work

  • @Xalerdane
    @Xalerdane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Honestly, I blame Clodius for everything.
    EDIT: and Cato, now that I think about it.

    • @jejeakle
      @jejeakle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cato’s not a surprise

  • @adeelhussain2304
    @adeelhussain2304 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This channel with Mike Duncan's History of Rome really helped contextualize and gives true meaning to the life and society of rome, not just the upper echelon, but how the injustice of society was tolerated by those with means and left the rest (middle class and below) to rot. We all have this marble visage of rome, when really that is just the facade and the cracks underneath highlight why the society fell and could not move forward.

  • @ericfiedler9916
    @ericfiedler9916 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely work once again, keep up the quality content! I am always excited to see when you have new videos up.

  • @luckylucson
    @luckylucson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Historia Civilis! I'm really loving your channel. The intrigue w/ Caesar and the rest of the gang is pretty interesting and can't wait to hear how the rest plays out. More power and best of luck with your channel :)

  • @RedLogicYT
    @RedLogicYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video on August 15th Sunday at 11:58pm (PDT/PST) is currently at:
    999,540+ views
    Soon- this video will finally hit 1 million views after more than 4 years.
    Congratulations :)

  • @gaweinlauwers121
    @gaweinlauwers121 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm already looking forward to the "Crassus vs Surena" followup video!

  • @NaturesTide
    @NaturesTide 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep doing the good work man. I love your stuff and am always so happy when you make new content.

  • @UpcycleElectronics
    @UpcycleElectronics 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came across your channel from a YT suggestion 2 weeks ago. I just finished all 44 uploads. Thanks.
    I want to hear the whole JC story already! Looking forward to it.

  • @craigheadalastair
    @craigheadalastair 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh the shit is going to hit the fan! God I can't for the next episode!

  • @rufushowell
    @rufushowell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    History repeats itself.

  • @ramenisgood4u
    @ramenisgood4u 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos! Thanks for taking the time to produce quality content such as this!

  • @Asasnol21
    @Asasnol21 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This somehow keeps getting better. Amazing job!

  • @dershclongular
    @dershclongular 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “With violence on the streets and corrupt elections people were believing the political situation was becoming more and more unstable.” Literally America 2020-2021

  • @seanmcdowell9649
    @seanmcdowell9649 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is why I love TH-cam, you get more info on what it's like back then from youtubers now then you do on history channels then again the history channel is just bikers pawn shop and shizz about aliens, but thanks for doing these videos and if anyone likes to learn more history there is historyden he goes way into depth in the wars he's currently doing the Punic wars if anyone is interested and has done the Greeks like the Persian war and others Oh and bazbattles who has done a lot on medieval history and Alexander the Great etc, just trying to share some history love since I always look for more history TH-cam channels to help my craving to learn more so hope this helps you all :)

  • @RippS666
    @RippS666 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love your channel, please keep doing this great work!

  • @mundoloving
    @mundoloving 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make the best history videos on youtube! Great content, great voicing!

  • @karter969
    @karter969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Please Please do Caesar marches on Rome

    • @CharlysBonada
      @CharlysBonada 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It's coming bro, easy

    • @Strideo1
      @Strideo1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Charlys Bonada
      Hey! Spoilers!!

    • @TheArabsolga
      @TheArabsolga 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Strideo1
      Not spoilers actually. You're two thousand years late to the party...

    • @Strideo1
      @Strideo1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Play-Doh
      Your humor detector may need recalibration.

    • @as7river
      @as7river 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When? WHEN GODDAMNIT?

  • @mustangbeauty4
    @mustangbeauty4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "That's a nice head you have on your shoulders!" - sea raiders

    • @MidnightSvn
      @MidnightSvn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *it's almost harvesting season*

  • @DirtyyMike
    @DirtyyMike 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so glad you are uploading again.

  • @tummywubs5071
    @tummywubs5071 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is amazing and I am bloody loving every moment of it.

  • @villelack4738
    @villelack4738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These videos are so good i evan convinced my historia teacher that we watch them in Class

  • @collaide
    @collaide 7 ปีที่แล้ว +848

    Milo the conservative ROFL

    • @collaide
      @collaide 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I don't understand what either of you two are trying to say

    • @reggiecunningham8928
      @reggiecunningham8928 7 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      It's a mention to how people today accuse Milo Y of inciting violence against Muslims. In the video the Milo in Rome was also accused of inciting violence.
      that was the joke.

    • @collaide
      @collaide 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thanks for explaining it to me. I wasn't trying to make a joke though, only pointing out that these two individuals share a name and an ideology.

    • @collaide
      @collaide 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I wonder if he had a greek bloodline.....

    • @TheFi0r3
      @TheFi0r3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His father had greek and irish ascendancy.

  • @Prometosermejor
    @Prometosermejor 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again for other magnificent video!
    I definitely think becoming you patreon is one of the best 1$ ever spent.
    Cheers!

  • @stefan4136
    @stefan4136 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's always going to be a good day, when there's a new historia civilis video!

  • @funratedgamers3944
    @funratedgamers3944 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    YES. The best elephant drawings are back again

  • @johncisney15
    @johncisney15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder how history would have played out if Crassus had survived his war in Parthia. Would he have allied with Caesar against Pompey? Would his presence force Pompey to back down and maintain the triumvirate? We'll never know, but it's a good bit of speculation.

  • @perky137
    @perky137 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another quality video. Proud to be a patron!

  • @tiagoaraujo621
    @tiagoaraujo621 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video, has always! It's with joy that i watch all of your videos. Keep the good work!

  • @VikingerOnYT
    @VikingerOnYT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice video! :o

  • @EternalAnomaly
    @EternalAnomaly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Now I see where Star Wars got inspiration from :\
    I can't believe how messed up Rome politics were. Rome is often held as the top civilization of the times, but I wonder if other countries fared better, even under dictatorships.

    • @ELETRIKDOG001
      @ELETRIKDOG001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      EternalAnomaly this was at the end of the republic, in its golden age there was little or no corruption at all in all the Res Publica, because of Mos Maiorum

    • @Urpuss
      @Urpuss 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @ultraboy222 CGP Grey did a video series on dictators (The Rules for Rulers) which explains quite well why dictators almost always have to be corrupt and put themself first.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roman Empire was a mess of too, I have just been listening Roman Emperors: Totalus Rankium podcast and it's quite entertaining with its shadiness too.

    • @pete9320
      @pete9320 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sara Samaletdin Give Mike Duncan a run too!

    • @EternalAnomaly
      @EternalAnomaly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I watched that video too :) And got the "The Dictator's Handbook" to delve deeper in to the phenomena.

  • @ASillyHistoryBuff
    @ASillyHistoryBuff 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video dude-keep up the good work and please keep uploading your work is great!

  • @r.9158
    @r.9158 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your content gets better with every video. Keep it up man!