On Pope Francis’s rock album, he had literally no part in its creation. Someone else made it for him, setting recordings of his (spoken) speeches, and singing bits of prose and poetry he’d written elsewhere, then gifted it to the Pope as a ghostwritten album. Literally all Francis did was accept the gift and allow the actual creator to go forward with releasing it under his name. Still hilarious that it exists tho.
14:30: Fun Fact: Pope Celestine V was mostly famous for being the first Pope to voluntarily relinquish the Papacy... but while modern people, such as yourself, recognize that as a good thing, recognizing that it was someone realizing that they were not qualified for the job and wanting to be allowed to leave a position they'd knew they'd mess up at, people back then literally couldn't comprehend someone who would just walk away from all that power, and thought he was either planning something (as the guy immediately after Celestine thought he would try to do) or that he was a "weakling" and a "coward." In fact, Dante Alighieri in his _Divine Comedy_ originally sentenced Celestine V to the punishment of being forever barred from entering Hell proper, instead just waiting for all eternity outside the Gate with it's now famous epigram of "All Hope Abandon, Ye Who Enter This Place." However, exactly 4 or 5 years after Dante's _Comedy_ was written and printed throughout Europe, Celestine would later be canonized, making him a saint... which presented an unfortunate problem in later re-prints of the book, that had to change the quote, making it more vague for readers, leading to some people thinking that Dante was talking about Pontius Pilate, the man whose act of cowardice (i.e., trying to get people to realize the absurdity of wanting to kill someone who merely claimed to be God by letting them choose to either free Jesus or a known murderer, Barabbas; then after that failed, stalling on the sentencing until he straight up told the Pharisees that he 'Washed his hands of the matter' and 'Jesus was _their_ problem now') led to Jesus suffering for the sins of everybody who lived and would ever live afterwards. But nope; originally, it was a condemnation of Celestine V. The monk who was only guilty of being concerned about the state of the Church, and merely wanted the Cardinals to stop dragging their feet and elect somebody, _ANYBODY_ at all to put an end to the problems plaguing the lands. He just never expected that they would choose HIM.
The Holy Roman Empire was actually one of the most powerful kingdoms for much of the medieval ages. It just had absolutely zero to do with the Roman empire itself. In short, Charlemagne, king of the Franks, just named his territory that to solidify his rule and when he died, his lands were split between his sons. One half became France and the other kept the old name (The Holy Roman Empire). Then Napoleon happened and now it's just Germany. Edit: Obviously it's a lot more complicated than that, but it's all you really need to know to understand what Blue means when he mentions the HRE.
@@Loremaster28 Imagine if some philosopher during the last century BCE made a pithy quote about Egypt being "little more than a puppet of Rome" and it got so popular that people today brought it up everytime ancient Egypt was discussed, even when the era in question predates the founding of Rome.
well, it was already kinda torn by the time Napoleon came to reunite the southern states, and stuff was already going down with Prussia and Austria, and it was from them that later on what we today consider to be Germany formed, originally under Prussian rule. Frankly, Napoleon had barely anything to do with that, from what I remember from history-class, except for maybe instilling a greater desire to reunite in the southern states.
The Pope Fights series is in the History Hijinks playlist which also includes failed assassinations, the best (relatively speaking) monarchs in all history, the best (and worst) couples in history, and Blue geeking out over domes. I'd recommend just continuing off the History Hijinks playlist because not only do you get more Pope fights, but every other bit of memeable insanity in history he's covered so far. It's all fun!
For solid 400 years the Holy Roman Empire was actually the powerhouse of European politics. It's only really in 1300's, especially with the Golden Bull in 1356 that the authority of the Emperor was greatly reduced and waned over the centuries until it was nothing more than a fancy title... For a fat chunk of the Medieval Period the Emperor of Charlemagne's realm was the most powerful political figure in Europe, only ever equaled by the Pope himself through Catholic Church.
overall there's 4 pope fight videos including this one. part 2 the reformation, part 3 the Italian wars, and part 4 Fredrick the II. I also recommend Blues history of Judaism because it's very enlightening, Judaism is more complicated than just one religion.
There's only three left for Pope Fights. But Blue has done some stuff under the title of History Hijinks, such as amusing events of history, and failed assassination attempts, such as the gunpowder plot of blowing up parliament!
Just so you know, "Nilla Wafers" are called such because they use vanilla flavouring, rather than actual vanilla. It's an actual brand thing, not just "machild."
History Hijinks and History Makers are other good series from Blue. I also recommend his Alcebides video. It's one of his older ones, but it's a lot of fun.
Also a Catholic and my dad is a convert to Catholicism. He's told me that one of the things that convinced him that the Catholic Church had the direct backing of *GOD* is that it *survived* the alternating persecution and internal corruption it's gone through. Any strictly human institution with a history like this would've *died* by now. Honestly, it shouldn't have lasted past the lifespan of the original disciples given how determined the Roman Empire was to kill it. That it survived *everything else?* Yeah.
There are several empires that survived about as long as the Catholic Church. Romans, the Japanese Imperial dynasty, Several European dynasties who lasted nearly a millenia (Ottomans, Rurikids and Capetians are some of the big ones). Not to forget that several eastern churches (like the Armenian and Coptic ones) have been around for longer than the Catholics.
@@gokbay3057 Not really. Rome's the closest, but they went through a major change in the *system* of government *twice.* Besides which, the Catholic Church has been around for *two* thousand years, tracing the line of succession back to Jesus renamed Simon to Peter.
@@gokbay3057 You'll note that the Imperial House of Japan is *highly unusual* and likely only experienced so much stability because of the Japan's natural isolation, being a chain of islands surrounded by ocean currents and weather patterns that make invasion nearly impossible. *Age* isn't the only factor here. It's surviving all the chaos from within and without. As I already mentioned, just surviving the first century is unprecedented. Small sects that are actively persecuted generally don't survive after the death of their founders. *Especially* if that persecution involves *the death penalty.*
@@brigidtheirish Judaism also survived longer with just as much if not more chaos and oppression. So has many other religions. It is also especially difficult to claim actual divine support for the Catholic Church in specific rather than Christianity in general as well imo. Like sure, it is from the beginning of Christianity to know if you start with Saint Peter. But could you truly say there was a Catholic Church as we know it now before the Great Schism? Even should one consider various breaks in communion leading to the creation of the Church of the East and Oriental Orthodox Church to simply be secessions from the Catholic Church (which I wouldn't agree with but let's put that aside for now) could one truly call the early pre-Nicene Christian Church the same institution as the current Roman Catholic Church?
6:30 The Holy Roman Empire doesn’t fall until the early 1800s. At this point in history it’s extremely respected and powerful. Hence why its Emperor could judge the Pope.
Sup Airier, i know this may be a bit off-topic, but remember Celestine V, the one who resigned? Fun fact : He currently is a Saint in the Catholic Church! Every year there is annual event called the Celestinian Forgiveness, which is a jubillee in memory of a rare Plenary Indulgence (I.E forgiving all sins within certain conditions) he gave to pilgrims to where he is buried, on the 28-29th of August.
The Holy roman empire WASNT the Roman Empire, it only called itself its successor. The Eastern Roman Empire, aka the Byzantine Empire, was also still around up till the 1400s. The Holy Roman Empire didnt fall till Napoleon and the...cant remember which war of the coalition but i believe it was the second war of the coalition. The Holy Roman Empire's Emperors were constantly in conflict with the Papacy over who had more power and who controlled who.
history is always a lot goofier than you expect just because the people who study it make it sound stuffy and boring. trust me, humans will be humans across space and time, and humans will always be goofy.
It’s shit like this why I am happy of being protestant. That being said: As a christian I am insulted that these assholes desecrated position of pope. (Minus Celestine V, he seemed cool or atlest a proper christian, which appears to have been extreamly rare in that period.)
20:58 Pretty sure it was the Merovingians that other people have claimed descened from Jesus and Merovingians predate the move to Avignon by quite a lot (in fact they predate the Carolingians aka Charlemagne and his family). 27:01 well, the Western Schism lasted long enough that the guy Blue called a fascist (as well as the Avignon alternative to him) had already been replaced by a new Rome-Pope and a new Avignon-Pope.
Blue covers Lutherism and the Reforms in #2. Sadly, there's no playlist that I can find for just the Pope Fights, but there are only 4 videos so far. #3 is about the Italian Wars, while 4 is about Fredrick II of HRE.
@@Airier Wait, really? Huh, funny how life works like that. Anyway, I’d highly recommend it. It gets a lot of comedic mileage out of the absurdity of the original show’s premise and has some pretty funny interpretations of the characters.
holy crapbaskets didn't know you were a fellow Catholic. also Benedict IX birthname was Teofilatto Tusculani. 266 Popes so far and the crrent one Francis was given the Papacy in 2013 after Benedict XVI became the second pope in history to abdicate
Correction, there hasn't been voting since the Roman Empire. There was still a Senate and House of Commons that could make laws, fiance the Empire, and make the Emperor's life hell or send him to hell. Also, seem you cut up the end of the video when Blue was talking about the Pope having a rock album and not cutting out the music, so it seems odd.
I'm always disappointed that no one ever seems to catch Blue's "The Gaul" joke.
right?! I mean, it's debatable if France at that point could still be considered Gallic, but it's still a phenomenal pun!
I literally just got that.😂
Wait, that was supposed to be a joke? I thought he simply said “the gall”
It was too subtle, which is why I love Blue's reviews. 😁
@@jordinagel1184 the French and Germans were originally known as The Gaul's by the Romans. It's a history pun.
Speaking of assassinations, Blue did one on goofy failed assassination plots.
19:18 I love Blues pun here. "Philip ordered a hit on the Pope, the Gaul!"
...So who's going to tell Airier that Nilla Wafers is a popular brand that is sold internationally?
On Pope Francis’s rock album, he had literally no part in its creation. Someone else made it for him, setting recordings of his (spoken) speeches, and singing bits of prose and poetry he’d written elsewhere, then gifted it to the Pope as a ghostwritten album. Literally all Francis did was accept the gift and allow the actual creator to go forward with releasing it under his name.
Still hilarious that it exists tho.
Thought it was obvious, the fun is in his name, not that he did all or any of the work
14:30: Fun Fact: Pope Celestine V was mostly famous for being the first Pope to voluntarily relinquish the Papacy... but while modern people, such as yourself, recognize that as a good thing, recognizing that it was someone realizing that they were not qualified for the job and wanting to be allowed to leave a position they'd knew they'd mess up at, people back then literally couldn't comprehend someone who would just walk away from all that power, and thought he was either planning something (as the guy immediately after Celestine thought he would try to do) or that he was a "weakling" and a "coward."
In fact, Dante Alighieri in his _Divine Comedy_ originally sentenced Celestine V to the punishment of being forever barred from entering Hell proper, instead just waiting for all eternity outside the Gate with it's now famous epigram of "All Hope Abandon, Ye Who Enter This Place."
However, exactly 4 or 5 years after Dante's _Comedy_ was written and printed throughout Europe, Celestine would later be canonized, making him a saint... which presented an unfortunate problem in later re-prints of the book, that had to change the quote, making it more vague for readers, leading to some people thinking that Dante was talking about Pontius Pilate, the man whose act of cowardice (i.e., trying to get people to realize the absurdity of wanting to kill someone who merely claimed to be God by letting them choose to either free Jesus or a known murderer, Barabbas; then after that failed, stalling on the sentencing until he straight up told the Pharisees that he 'Washed his hands of the matter' and 'Jesus was _their_ problem now') led to Jesus suffering for the sins of everybody who lived and would ever live afterwards.
But nope; originally, it was a condemnation of Celestine V.
The monk who was only guilty of being concerned about the state of the Church, and merely wanted the Cardinals to stop dragging their feet and elect somebody, _ANYBODY_ at all to put an end to the problems plaguing the lands.
He just never expected that they would choose HIM.
The Holy Roman Empire was actually one of the most powerful kingdoms for much of the medieval ages. It just had absolutely zero to do with the Roman empire itself. In short, Charlemagne, king of the Franks, just named his territory that to solidify his rule and when he died, his lands were split between his sons. One half became France and the other kept the old name (The Holy Roman Empire). Then Napoleon happened and now it's just Germany.
Edit: Obviously it's a lot more complicated than that, but it's all you really need to know to understand what Blue means when he mentions the HRE.
Ahhh the HRE, not Holy, not roman, and not an empire.
@@Loremaster28 Wierd. Isn't it?
@@Loremaster28 Imagine if some philosopher during the last century BCE made a pithy quote about Egypt being "little more than a puppet of Rome" and it got so popular that people today brought it up everytime ancient Egypt was discussed, even when the era in question predates the founding of Rome.
well, it was already kinda torn by the time Napoleon came to reunite the southern states, and stuff was already going down with Prussia and Austria, and it was from them that later on what we today consider to be Germany formed, originally under Prussian rule. Frankly, Napoleon had barely anything to do with that, from what I remember from history-class, except for maybe instilling a greater desire to reunite in the southern states.
@@Punaparta I mean was the HRE ever holy roman or an empire? Egypt was at several points not a puppet of Rome.
"I don't even know if I'm dreaming right now!"
There's only one way to find out, you have to wake up. Airier, you have to wake up.
Five more minutes. 😴
Nilla Wafers is a brand of cookie. They do look a little bit like communion wafers if you squint.
Doubt the guy knew the difference
The Pope Fights series is in the History Hijinks playlist which also includes failed assassinations, the best (relatively speaking) monarchs in all history, the best (and worst) couples in history, and Blue geeking out over domes. I'd recommend just continuing off the History Hijinks playlist because not only do you get more Pope fights, but every other bit of memeable insanity in history he's covered so far. It's all fun!
Memeable insanity and Domes, what more could you ask for?
POPE FIGHT, YEAH-UH ☆☆
For solid 400 years the Holy Roman Empire was actually the powerhouse of European politics.
It's only really in 1300's, especially with the Golden Bull in 1356 that the authority of the Emperor was greatly reduced and waned over the centuries until it was nothing more than a fancy title...
For a fat chunk of the Medieval Period the Emperor of Charlemagne's realm was the most powerful political figure in Europe, only ever equaled by the Pope himself through Catholic Church.
You: "i just never realized how many popes they actually had!
Me: "alot. Too many. Waaay too many"
benedict was the one that stepped down, and honestly fair, man wasn't getting any younger and he already looked like emperor palpatine.
overall there's 4 pope fight videos including this one. part 2 the reformation, part 3 the Italian wars, and part 4 Fredrick the II.
I also recommend Blues history of Judaism because it's very enlightening, Judaism is more complicated than just one religion.
That last one would pair well with Extra History's Early Christian Schisms.
There's only three left for Pope Fights. But Blue has done some stuff under the title of History Hijinks, such as amusing events of history, and failed assassination attempts, such as the gunpowder plot of blowing up parliament!
I highly recommend Blue's video on failed assassinations. Probably one of his funniest videos due to all the hijinks lol.
Just so you know, "Nilla Wafers" are called such because they use vanilla flavouring, rather than actual vanilla. It's an actual brand thing, not just "machild."
History Hijinks and History Makers are other good series from Blue. I also recommend his Alcebides video. It's one of his older ones, but it's a lot of fun.
19:04 could be worse, it could be “This is the Song that Never Ends”.😄😄
Also a Catholic and my dad is a convert to Catholicism. He's told me that one of the things that convinced him that the Catholic Church had the direct backing of *GOD* is that it *survived* the alternating persecution and internal corruption it's gone through. Any strictly human institution with a history like this would've *died* by now. Honestly, it shouldn't have lasted past the lifespan of the original disciples given how determined the Roman Empire was to kill it. That it survived *everything else?* Yeah.
There are several empires that survived about as long as the Catholic Church. Romans, the Japanese Imperial dynasty, Several European dynasties who lasted nearly a millenia (Ottomans, Rurikids and Capetians are some of the big ones).
Not to forget that several eastern churches (like the Armenian and Coptic ones) have been around for longer than the Catholics.
@@gokbay3057 Not really. Rome's the closest, but they went through a major change in the *system* of government *twice.* Besides which, the Catholic Church has been around for *two* thousand years, tracing the line of succession back to Jesus renamed Simon to Peter.
@@brigidtheirish And the Imperial House of Japan traces a line of succession to 660 *BC*
@@gokbay3057 You'll note that the Imperial House of Japan is *highly unusual* and likely only experienced so much stability because of the Japan's natural isolation, being a chain of islands surrounded by ocean currents and weather patterns that make invasion nearly impossible.
*Age* isn't the only factor here. It's surviving all the chaos from within and without. As I already mentioned, just surviving the first century is unprecedented. Small sects that are actively persecuted generally don't survive after the death of their founders. *Especially* if that persecution involves *the death penalty.*
@@brigidtheirish Judaism also survived longer with just as much if not more chaos and oppression. So has many other religions.
It is also especially difficult to claim actual divine support for the Catholic Church in specific rather than Christianity in general as well imo. Like sure, it is from the beginning of Christianity to know if you start with Saint Peter. But could you truly say there was a Catholic Church as we know it now before the Great Schism? Even should one consider various breaks in communion leading to the creation of the Church of the East and Oriental Orthodox Church to simply be secessions from the Catholic Church (which I wouldn't agree with but let's put that aside for now) could one truly call the early pre-Nicene Christian Church the same institution as the current Roman Catholic Church?
6:30 The Holy Roman Empire doesn’t fall until the early 1800s.
At this point in history it’s extremely respected and powerful. Hence why its Emperor could judge the Pope.
Sup Airier, i know this may be a bit off-topic, but remember Celestine V, the one who resigned? Fun fact : He currently is a Saint in the Catholic Church! Every year there is annual event called the Celestinian Forgiveness, which is a jubillee in memory of a rare Plenary Indulgence (I.E forgiving all sins within certain conditions) he gave to pilgrims to where he is buried, on the 28-29th of August.
Red's chaos energy is awesome, but Blue's mix of studiousness & silliness is *addicting.*
The Holy roman empire WASNT the Roman Empire, it only called itself its successor. The Eastern Roman Empire, aka the Byzantine Empire, was also still around up till the 1400s. The Holy Roman Empire didnt fall till Napoleon and the...cant remember which war of the coalition but i believe it was the second war of the coalition. The Holy Roman Empire's Emperors were constantly in conflict with the Papacy over who had more power and who controlled who.
history is always a lot goofier than you expect just because the people who study it make it sound stuffy and boring. trust me, humans will be humans across space and time, and humans will always be goofy.
You seem to have misspelled "Bat-shit insane homicidal anger monkeys with less common sense than Caligula" as "Goofy"
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 po-tay-to po-tah-to
@@PIMKAMINA2 in this case it's more Po-tay-to Po-nuclear-weapons.
10:20 so I checked, we’re at the 266th pope
Defenestration. For when something needs to die. Hard.
Blue speaks fluent Italian and Greek.
It’s shit like this why I am happy of being protestant. That being said: As a christian I am insulted that these assholes desecrated position of pope. (Minus Celestine V, he seemed cool or atlest a proper christian, which appears to have been extreamly rare in that period.)
I"m a Buddhist myself, and it's crap like this that makes me glad for it.
Silence Buddhist.
20:58 Pretty sure it was the Merovingians that other people have claimed descened from Jesus and Merovingians predate the move to Avignon by quite a lot (in fact they predate the Carolingians aka Charlemagne and his family).
27:01 well, the Western Schism lasted long enough that the guy Blue called a fascist (as well as the Avignon alternative to him) had already been replaced by a new Rome-Pope and a new Avignon-Pope.
As far as i can tell, there have been ~266 Popes
Martin Luther: FINE! __ I'll do it myself.
Blue covers Lutherism and the Reforms in #2. Sadly, there's no playlist that I can find for just the Pope Fights, but there are only 4 videos so far. #3 is about the Italian Wars, while 4 is about Fredrick II of HRE.
Honestly, I recommend all of Blue's videos. They're great.
That Martin Luther "quote" got me.
7:18 I know that twitch from the armaris saga,
Welcome to history TH-cam
7:15 Airier's face twitched!
What's with the sudden jump around 28:40? Oh it's copyright isn't it.
I love your reactions over how stupid these popes actions were lol.
If you’re interested Sam O'nella also has video on popes but less PC.
There are 3 more Pope fight vids!
of course he does, he's argentinian. Argentina has the best spanish rock in the world, and the best concerts
Yo! Fellow Catholic here! :D
Honestly, same man. I have a blast with these videos and Blue's steady descent into madness XD
'He's shortening it because he's a man-child'
WRONG! Nilla Wafers are an actual brand of pseudo-cookie.
There's also a Journey to the West April Fools Minecraft episode
Ooh...this was pretty interesting! Airier, have you watched the ExtraHistory vids? You might enjoy those too!
2:20 Holy Roman Empire is literally Germany.
YEEEAAAAAAH!!!!!! I LOVE THIS SERIES!
highly recommend greek wise guys next its surprisingly funny.
as well as red's philosopher song Aka Ancient grumpy dudes who thought too much song.
what do you think he'll cover first, Medici or Borgias
borgias first but only just
Nilla is also the most popular brand of vanilla wafers
As to how many popes there have been, officially there’s 266 which includes the ones who were poor multiple times.
I think you accidentally cut reaction on Francis album.
I listened to it on my own. I don't like risking music usage on TH-cam if I can avoid it.
@@Airier ah okay
@@Airier Imagine getting your channel excommunicated by the pope for infringing on his copyright
Would it interest you to learn that Robert Jordan takes inspiration from this in creating the White Tower and the Aes Sedai in The Wheel Of Time?
*_YES!_** It's here!! B)*
The video Blue did on tge Ptolomes is really good too. Very funny
Athena P is a good channel like analyzing tv shows and you two would get along great
So, you’ve started watching Blue’s content as well?
I hope you like domes.
Hey, hey Airier. You... you know that it is just Nilla Wafers, right? Like, that's the brand name, Nilla Wafers.
Thanks for this reaction.
Hey Airer, a bit off topic, but have you ever watched Girls Und Panzer abridged? It’s pretty good.
It's actually come up I'm my recommendations, but I keep forgetting to check it out when I go to look for new vids?
@@Airier
Wait, really? Huh, funny how life works like that. Anyway, I’d highly recommend it. It gets a lot of comedic mileage out of the absurdity of the original show’s premise and has some pretty funny interpretations of the characters.
Pope fight(s)!!!
holy crapbaskets didn't know you were a fellow Catholic. also Benedict IX birthname was Teofilatto Tusculani. 266 Popes so far and the crrent one Francis was given the Papacy in 2013 after Benedict XVI became the second pope in history to abdicate
This week on Celebrity Deathmatch Ppppppp Pope Fight!
Correction, there hasn't been voting since the Roman Empire. There was still a Senate and House of Commons that could make laws, fiance the Empire, and make the Emperor's life hell or send him to hell.
Also, seem you cut up the end of the video when Blue was talking about the Pope having a rock album and not cutting out the music, so it seems odd.
Wait, you don't recognize Nilla Wafers? They're a great cookie!
Nilla Wafers is a brand actually.
Nilla Wafer is a brand name.
St John goes to st. John I need those do Play-Doh Play-Doh driver. Oh and John's going to feel that in the morning
You think this stuff is insane you should watch Jack Rackam!
You know if big e sat down with logar and showed him this nonsense with the church u feel we could have avoided a lot of bad things in 40k
Are you ever going to do the my hero academia abridged from joyride
Studios
You skip a part at the end?
pope fight!!!
did you skip the video what happened?
probably copyright
You stop the vids way to much mate. Maybe wait until the end? 😅
yeah... the holy roman empire was not holy, roman, or an empire.
:)