Naah. Im black American..and disagree..I like watching you shows..but your wrong most of this..BTW, im not with any organization..im truly independent on every level...
Well fat Joe also just clarified what he meant and it is exactly what I’m saying here! The 10 second clip is clear enough to decipher what and who he’s talking about! Most want a story or a reason for rage where there is none
Bro, to be clear. We are the only lineage that didn't migrate here. That makes us Foundational Black Americans. Somalia, and people from the diaspora. SAY. they are not Black. How do we differentiate ourselves from them? By us defining we are FBA unapologetically. These other people wants proximity to YT Ness.
I’m the one that put up the super chat of Doggie not being down with the FBA movement. 2-3 years ago he was on his show saying the division among black people was stupid. Now he’s saying he changed his mind because a Jamaican called him a yankee.😂🤦🏾♂️
The enemy of my enemy is my friend the brother have personal issues with Tariq that he it’s missing key points of disrespect towards black peoples and the word semantics is offensive this is a case of blind rage it’s not about the people but your personal grudge peace be upon you brother
@your2ndxhance181 - Tariq Na Greed has been scamming the black community for a long time now... Same with Umar grifting Johnson... When will my people come from under the spell, and witchcraft of the "Wordplay"..."Word salad" of these fast talking 🤡 clowns?...
The biggest disrespect is when black ppl abandoned their native culture to the land and decided to be a color vs being a recognized nation. kuz they didnt want to be on reservations.
He's clearly playing dumb, he knows exactly what you talking about. And if he doesn't, how is he a journalist? Probably why he hasn't got a bag like akademics
I’m Guyanese American and fully understand where FBA coming from. People lacks comprehension with alll the information that’s availabke. Doggie I’m sure you regrets getting on this platform
@@bigtone3983 then you are part of the problem a blk immigrant supporting a hate group that will call him a tether every chance they get….you are lost buddy.
My respect for Moorish World Tv has gone up , you spoke facts and was unbias... doggy diamonds didnt want to get tariq nasheed mad or fba on his head he looked weak as fk
I grew up in the Bronx.The Birthplace. Yes, Black youth...but Latinos/Caribbean youth were there too. Only if you lived in NYC at that time, would you know that Latino/Caribs were there at its inception.
@@dlxinfinite7098 Rap/Hip-Hop was brewing all over the city. Many of the Black American DJ's like Hollywood and Flowers were rapping over DISCO beats. They were doing this in Brooklyn and Queens and not just the Bronx. No matter where you place the birth of Hip-Hop, it is still Black American culture (No Matter what name you use) that birthed Hip-Hop. There was no 50/50. Latinos and Carribeans that were doing hip-hop were cosplaying and down with our culture. They were talking and dressing like us. The latinos and Carribeans that weren't down with us were identifying with their culture: Salsa, etc.
@@wcorowitzYou sound stupid, during that time my uncles was running all over Brooklyn homicide outlaws , The dirty ones TF. Y'ALL NOT IN TUNE WITH NEW YORK SO MIND YOUR BUSINESS
@@wcorowitzdidnt the first artist come from jamaica? DJ Kool Herc? Born in Kingston? Isnt that Caribbean? Kuz they speak spain language dont mean they not us, they just the result of the damage spain did. The english didnt do as much damage yet we speak it. Dont let the conquers keep us separated. Arawak to Iroquois.
Fat Joe was calling out FBA for being xenophobic. He should've said FBA is xenophobic but I get where he was coming from so therefore I wasn't offended.
@@DigiSTREAM21 smh if the title makes sense , it makes sense. It don’t matter where it came from. Claud Anderson called us native black Americans but that got confusing. Foundational was the next logical name.
They didn't call themselves black. My Old-Earth was born in the 30's. When she was growing up during the 40's & 50's, if some1 called u black that was considered a fighting word. Negro, blk, colored, these are terms put on us by the european. And blk didn't become fashionable as an identity until the 60's. Prior to that it was a badge of shame of sorts. This Cat trying to argue with the G.Shiek ain't sharp at all. We never declared ourselves to be no "blk" nothing in the 17-or 1800's. These were caste systems we were placed in as a result of European hegemony*
What is the difference in what Dr. Claud Anderson teaches and the current delineation movement? DCA suggested we use the term Native Black Americans. 🤷🏾♂️
I was born and raise in the hood this moorish dude has a good observation and speaks many facts this dude doggie I can tell he afraid and careful that why he won’t agree with a lot with moorish says everything moorish saying is common sense how this dude doggie still don’t get
Facts. I've been analyzing this conversation & everything surrounding it today. And, as he is a journalist, I wonder why that says he doesn't get to "decipher" Joe's meaning here...but he gets to interpret & somewhat define what tariq's fba rhetoric entails, as he's seemingly defending them? Using his own admission of "not deciphering" something & just looking at what's been stated by tariq's fba, wouldn't one reach the conclusion that tariq's fba holds very xenophobic beliefs? How does he get to interpret & "decipher" one side of an equation (that he's defending) and not the other? Maybe we're using the term journalists a bit liberally? Because weighing in on something in a skewed way, for or against something, is what a columnist does.. even an opinion piece writer. But a true journalist is never supposed to operate like that. No disrespect to the brother at all.
Yankee/Yank are nicknames innocently given to Americans by others from the diaspora. No one knew/knows that it was offensive to Black Americans. Without a history lesson, how could they know? Taharka, teach!!!!!
Doggie diamonds is playing dumb. The whole context is about Joe saying that people has a problem that he said blacks and Puerto Ricans created hip hop. Then he said this rumor. What rumor? The rumor that Puerto Ricans had nothing to do with creating hip hop. The context is clear. Doggie wants this be be something. Stop the cap
yankee is not a derogatory term...he just pretending to be offended, so he can attack other black groups. he never listen to tariq but repeat tariq talking points verbatim.
@@lovetiddays yankee is another word for American"... that how many places outside of the U.S called people from the there...again looking to be offended. are you offended by the New York Yankees
I'm no fan of Fat Joe but he was not talking about Black Americans as a whole, he was talking about Tariq Nasheed's FBA, that was clear as day...with that said... I'm no fan of Tariq Nasheed nor FBA's xenophobic ways however if you talk slick and/or attempt to negatively diminish and/or dismiss the community and FBA come for you, then 🤷🏾♀️...
How is fat joe Is talking about Black Americans as a whole he clearly stated they don't want to hear from a black guy who doesn't agree with the FBA'S agenda
Off top though.. these so-called “rumors” were not “created” by Tariq Nasheed or a “radical group of black racists”.. these “rumors”/historical claims were brought forth by actual “Black” brothers and sisters from THE BRONX, NY, that were there at the genesis of Hip Hop.
doggie is that man when it comes to hip hop news but still a student in the affairs of nationality/nation building as we all are Islam to the moors up liftin fallen humanity with love truth peace and justice
They are not rasist, because they literally belong to the same race, just from different spaces.we are seen as black no matter what we call ourselves, by thevpeople that matter most at this time ,whire people.@@tylercanton3836
Meaning of racist: characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
Doggie Diamonds ain't accurate on much topics. I unsubscribed from his channel when he shared a story of a man that approached him asking for food. He told the man to choose what he wants. The man told him he'll share the food for him and his friend he told the guy he will buy food for both men and they should choose what they want one order chicken and rice and the other something similar but he refuse to pay for the food after it cost around $8.00 I was shocked because Doggie Diamonds have supporters on his channel that's buying merchandise and promoting their music for the cost of a $100.00 but find it hard to buy $8.00 for food that's petty and mean. He is just on TH-cam to make money he represents nothing but his ego. Early observations on the developments of Hip Hop and writers on American history recorded that Hip Hop was created Hispanics, Jamaicans and black Americans in Bronx New York. Tariq and many other so called foundational black Americans disregards the historicans documentations on Hip Hop history which is record also by Oxford dictionaries. It's racial prejudice and disrespectful. I heard black Americans disrespected Jamaican music and artistes calling them jungle bunniess very interesting times.
Trouble is all these people with this phenotype are seen as black by white people who control right now Any black referring to another black as a jungle bunnie is talking about about their own self also.
According to what the statement it was clear who he was referring to! Today I see he came and confirmed exactly what I said! You’re a journalist also so you should be able to understand the entire comment not a word “racist” the one word doesn’t represent the full thought! He literally says who he refers to “N words in twitter” and “their leader”. We to stop looking for opportunities to victims! Are you available tonight! I’m doing a follow up!
@@MoorishWorldTv You gotta do some digging on FAT JOE. I'm seperating the foolishness of Tariq Nasheed and just focusing on the Foolishness that Fat Joe has been saying for quite sometime. FAT JOE should be more gracious considering that Black people put him on. FAT JOE was propped up by Black people (Lord Finesse, DITC, Diamond D). As soon as Fat Joe started to get big, he started spewing Latino pride, which is okay, but as the years went on, he became more of a HARDLINER. FAT JOE should have used better and more specific language. Since FAT JOE has been talking CRAZY for almost TWO YEARS, it is only natural that many Black people, such as my self and Doggie Diamonds took offense to the things he said. I don't consider Tariq Nasheed my leader. You have already identified him as an agent, grifter, and fraud. But FAT JOE needs to be stopped. He's gotten out of hand. We got to started doing like the Jewby Doobie Dews. If you attack Zionist Jewby Doobie Dews, ALL JEWS come for you. When you try to explain that you were only referring to the Zionist Jewby Doobie Dews, they don't want to hear it. CANCELED!! The Jewby Doobie Dews understand the concept of STAYING ON CODE!!! For the record, I support Taharka Bey and Doggie Diamonds. I don't support FAT JOE or Tariq NASHEED AKA MARCUS VINCENT THOMAS/SANDERS.
You have people that are not technically FBA but support the cause, n some consider themselves FBA. He should have never trademarked it. Now u own it (get it). Now people come to u n use ya brand for wicked purpose. Now u sell out. You got blacks that are not FBA but claim it. Thats powerful. U ain’t but the NAACP new millennium.
Bro Taharka… you couldve easipy destroyed this Doggie Diamond fella about the racism comment… FBA doesn’t consider any other melenated people the same as they are
That’s because they aren’t. The same way Jamaicans aren’t the same Brazilians and hatians and aren’t the same as Dominicans even thought most of them arrived at their respected area almost at the same time
@dovsdont1706 whatever you just typed was one of the most idiotic statements I've read in a while. And this is why I say GS coulld've beat Doggie Dog with that one statement. YES! FBA is Racist. FBA tries to exert their rights to Americanism over other races and be gate keepers to this American experience. The same experience you say you hate and is unfair. You don’t consider immigrants the same as you because you unverifiably are descendants of slaves. I can almost guarantee that if you are FBA, you more than likely haven't done the research, you just assume that you have a few generations in this country and someone must've been a slave in your family tree. What's funnier, you don't acknowledge how your ancester became a slave in the first place. You just begin at slavery. FBA considers themselves apart from the diaspora… so, yes, FBA can be racist in that sense. Not only that. If you are trying to gate keep and control access to economics or this American experince from Central/South Americans.. are they not of a different race? would that be a form of racism? Yet, none of you speak on European immigrants… your focus is always on people with some level of melanin.
@moorish TV I don't know if you'll see this, but I called this dude out multiple times. I asked him for his lineage he so claimed to be in touch with, he said his family was in the neighborhood he grew up in for generations. I did research on that neighborhood. White people built it. So I'm assuming doggies ancestors are white!
At this moment, the term Foundational Black American is trademarked by Tariq Nasheed but FBA was trademarked by Amazon. Not even Claude Anderson, who inspired Tariq's new term, would go this hard on Fat Joe.
Bx n az …. I was born in 72 in the bx ,Latins were not saying nixxa till mid to late 80 s or it’d be a fight smh ,my dj ster from the bx was a Puerto Rican in 1988 & he’d get mad heat for doing Moreno music as Latins would hate and call it back then ,,wasn’t no 50/50 smh cmon ,jus look at the bloods in ny which had to start early 90 s because of Latins brutalizing blks hmmmm …also if Latins we’re there in the start then where’s the Latin samples in early rap songs hmmmm there isn’t any 😎😂😂😂because they weren’t creating rap as they claim ……FBA ….NYC …BX
T is making sense, sorry! especially about not wanting to be a leader because being afraid of being taken out. and not taking on all the responsibilities. make it make sense
It obviously doggie is afraid not to say the wrong thing to avoid consequences moorish world you are very smart I got 50 people here watching this and we’ll agree with you you should be the journalist and teach doggie
You tripped up in saying he didn’t mean the literal dictionary version of “racist” cause he did, and he’s right. What Doggie Diamonds is talking about is “Institutional racism” a FORM of racism. A homeless bum on the street using the hard “ER” is still as racist even if he don’t have any power over you
@@dlxinfinite7098You should have stood and seen how many times doggie diamonds got caught up on his own words, openly admits. He's not a part of the group on Twitter, so he owes Joe an apology 🤣
MIGHTY STRANGE you didn't set a clock for him and go back and forth like you debate others! Why is that G.S.??? I feel you tried to work the brother over with so called conscious style of debate! Not used to that from this channel, did you not consider that brother worthy as the others?? I'm just curious 🤔
Wow! Just watched entire video. Please keep the format you started with, time limits, clock and mute button!😆 you don't need click/views, your channel is already thee ish!!
You gave your homie nore an out! You just openly admitted you didn't post the film because he said incriminating stuff on there there. You could have posted it and let him deal with the outcome later. It's not your job to give them an out
The first 7 mins sets the tone of DD thought on Joe and the situation, according to DD he knows Joe to a liar and embellishes on subjects he is talking about so DD is being critical on everything Joe is saying DD this is why he not allowing Taharka to interpret what Joe is trying to say. When DD opened up about the rumors, he already was saying THAT could be a lie. Taharka's take was well presented but still doesn't mean Joe isn't doing the same thing in DD point of view.
I'm catching up on your shows GS but it seems like you set them off with this one. Keep the pressure on them. As a concept, Only, FBA sounds good. But these cats whom are running around as the progenitors of their group's movement have nothing on the registry to check as "standing on business". Not even in a small town, where Black folks are the majority, does "FBA" have any sway or influence on the politics, budget, infrastructure, etc. Please keep exposing the logical fallacies that FBA tries not to see. I'm always taking notes.
YES HE DID SAY SOMETHING WRONG, >>> HE SPOKE OUT OF TURN PERTAINING TO SOMETHING HE WASN'T THERE TO WITNESS. fact: YOU can possibly witness a child being born, ...but were YOU there to create it? ...nuff said!
This dude line skipping, goal post moving, not allowing folks to state their point, trying to get folks tripped up in nonsensical points. Dude is not a good debater. Most of these Noteps aren’t.
I don’t know who created the ability for anyone to just create podcast etc. I don’t know why the brother is trying to explain anything to an 85ver. Once he acts like he does not have knowledge of a corporation or entity and owns a business that’s a problem. You have a monetary platform utilizing another entities title on it and you don’t think it’s monetary? He says he has no leader… the kill of the whole debate was simple…. Would we be having this conversation if their was no FBA created? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 This dude like Panda Chop and Cuban Link all make a living off a man they try to assassinate daily. Their platforms are 90% Fat Joe but they dislike him? He’s making them money daily. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Goofy’s. What I loved was the simplest questions and he went around the sun like a planet. Wasted conversation brother.
truth be told it’s all a finesse somebody is getting paid off all this at the end of the day and the people in the background gets nothing but a ear full of bs!!
This was hard to watch. Neither one of you know what racism actually means. Never once pulled out a dictionary. Diamonds, you really took an L. This debate couldve been over in 20 mins.
@Metatron-f6l if I remember correctly, from my 1962 American heritage dictionary, racism is the notion that ones ethnic group is superior. All that other mess about having power to stop opportunities is conjecture.
Most people that use the word racist dont use it in the dictionary context. My personal definition of racist is someone who hates another person because of their race, so yes a black person can be racist according to my definition
It's funny that he says he doesn't follow Tariq but yet he follow the term that he came up with make it make sense SMH
Doggy is way too smart to be acting like he has a learning @ hearing disability tonight.
LOL,,,yep, that boy aint stupid
Naah. Im black American..and disagree..I like watching you shows..but your wrong most of this..BTW, im not with any organization..im truly independent on every level...
Well fat Joe also just clarified what he meant and it is exactly what I’m saying here! The 10 second clip is clear enough to decipher what and who he’s talking about! Most want a story or a reason for rage where there is none
COLORable Law
Bro, to be clear. We are the only lineage that didn't migrate here. That makes us Foundational Black Americans. Somalia, and people from the diaspora. SAY. they are not Black. How do we differentiate ourselves from them? By us defining we are FBA unapologetically. These other people wants proximity to YT Ness.
I stand behind FBA 💯💯
Look. Up COLORable Law.
u stand behind a scam lol...
I’m the one that put up the super chat of Doggie not being down with the FBA movement. 2-3 years ago he was on his show saying the division among black people was stupid. Now he’s saying he changed his mind because a Jamaican called him a yankee.😂🤦🏾♂️
@@SharpShooter_P I recall that too. He used to bash folks under FBA then made a 180
Clearly not knowing that southerners in America refer to Northerners the same way. Black and White.
@@freetownmkteerso the southerners hold on to a color identity more than the northerners? COLORable Law.
Same as Lord Jamar two “intelligent individuals” you would think. But they are getting got by TN. 💰
Dd fumbling the ball in this conversation
The enemy of my enemy is my friend the brother have personal issues with Tariq that he it’s missing key points of disrespect towards black peoples and the word semantics is offensive this is a case of blind rage it’s not about the people but your personal grudge peace be upon you brother
got dayum, that's a hard one to read...the world's longest sentence.
@your2ndxhance181 - Tariq Na Greed has been scamming the black community for a long time now... Same with Umar grifting Johnson... When will my people come from under the spell, and witchcraft of the "Wordplay"..."Word salad" of these fast talking 🤡 clowns?...
The biggest disrespect is when black ppl abandoned their native culture to the land and decided to be a color vs being a recognized nation. kuz they didnt want to be on reservations.
He's clearly playing dumb, he knows exactly what you talking about. And if he doesn't, how is he a journalist? Probably why he hasn't got a bag like akademics
I’m Guyanese American and fully understand where FBA coming from. People lacks comprehension with alll the information that’s availabke. Doggie I’m sure you regrets getting on this platform
@@bigtone3983 then you are part of the problem a blk immigrant supporting a hate group that will call him a tether every chance they get….you are lost buddy.
Guyana is South America not caribbean
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My respect for Moorish World Tv has gone up , you spoke facts and was unbias... doggy diamonds didnt want to get tariq nasheed mad or fba on his head he looked weak as fk
Fat joe is totally out of line, Let's.
Stick to the script hip-hop comes from BLACK American youth.
I grew up in the Bronx.The Birthplace. Yes, Black youth...but Latinos/Caribbean youth were there too. Only if you lived in NYC at that time, would you know that Latino/Caribs were there at its inception.
@@dlxinfinite7098 Rap/Hip-Hop was brewing all over the city. Many of the Black American DJ's like Hollywood and Flowers were rapping over DISCO beats. They were doing this in Brooklyn and Queens and not just the Bronx. No matter where you place the birth of Hip-Hop, it is still Black American culture (No Matter what name you use) that birthed Hip-Hop. There was no 50/50. Latinos and Carribeans that were doing hip-hop were cosplaying and down with our culture. They were talking and dressing like us. The latinos and Carribeans that weren't down with us were identifying with their culture: Salsa, etc.
@@wcorowitzYou sound stupid, during that time my uncles was running all over Brooklyn homicide outlaws , The dirty ones TF. Y'ALL NOT IN TUNE WITH NEW YORK SO MIND YOUR BUSINESS
@@dlxinfinite7098southern blacks dont know that culture.
@@wcorowitzdidnt the first artist come from jamaica? DJ Kool Herc? Born in Kingston? Isnt that Caribbean? Kuz they speak spain language dont mean they not us, they just the result of the damage spain did. The english didnt do as much damage yet we speak it. Dont let the conquers keep us separated. Arawak to Iroquois.
Fat Joe was calling out FBA for being xenophobic. He should've said FBA is xenophobic but I get where he was coming from so therefore I wasn't offended.
This dude doggy is way too old to be labeling himself after a title that was made on twitter.
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@@DigiSTREAM21 smh if the title makes sense , it makes sense. It don’t matter where it came from. Claud Anderson called us native black Americans but that got confusing. Foundational was the next logical name.
You are 50 percent of your mother and 50 percent of your father.
They didn't call themselves black. My Old-Earth was born in the 30's. When she was growing up during the 40's & 50's, if some1 called u black that was considered a fighting word. Negro, blk, colored, these are terms put on us by the european. And blk didn't become fashionable as an identity until the 60's. Prior to that it was a badge of shame of sorts. This Cat trying to argue with the G.Shiek ain't sharp at all. We never declared ourselves to be no "blk" nothing in the 17-or 1800's. These were caste systems we were placed in as a result of European hegemony*
@@duanewise5066
What did your Old Earth consider herself during that time?
Its still a caste system. But now they wana be a "real nigha" like its a badge of honor to be "real ignorant" 🤦🏿♀️.
What is the difference in what Dr. Claud Anderson teaches and the current delineation movement? DCA suggested we use the term Native Black Americans. 🤷🏾♂️
next week someone else will tell you to be a bucket of coal. Then after that - and after that. Point is the scam has been identified unlike before.
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Your fuckin name is crypto. Your whole identity is a trend. Gtfoh
@@Cryptonomics7u sound ridiculous
Doggie Tariq fractured the ADOS movement so yes that makes him an Agent.
I was born and raise in the hood this moorish dude has a good observation and speaks many facts this dude doggie I can tell he afraid and careful that why he won’t agree with a lot with moorish says everything moorish saying is common sense how this dude doggie still don’t get
Mental block
Yeh being from a hood i got to see why and how we in the wrong direction.
Doggie Diamonds.. What's up with this gaslighting shite?.. You're reasonable enough to use your common sense to know what Joe's talking about..
Facts. I've been analyzing this conversation & everything surrounding it today. And, as he is a journalist, I wonder why that says he doesn't get to "decipher" Joe's meaning here...but he gets to interpret & somewhat define what tariq's fba rhetoric entails, as he's seemingly defending them? Using his own admission of "not deciphering" something & just looking at what's been stated by tariq's fba, wouldn't one reach the conclusion that tariq's fba holds very xenophobic beliefs? How does he get to interpret & "decipher" one side of an equation (that he's defending) and not the other? Maybe we're using the term journalists a bit liberally? Because weighing in on something in a skewed way, for or against something, is what a columnist does.. even an opinion piece writer. But a true journalist is never supposed to operate like that. No disrespect to the brother at all.
Yankee/Yank are nicknames innocently given to Americans by others from the diaspora. No one knew/knows that it was offensive to Black Americans. Without a history lesson, how could they know?
Taharka, teach!!!!!
This dude doggie is playing dumb
Let him talk!!!
Fat Joe is a mtv rapper talking mess
The last poets released an album 1969 Felipe Luciano Puerto Rican
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Dookie Diamond is not too bright
Doggie diamonds is playing dumb. The whole context is about Joe saying that people has a problem that he said blacks and Puerto Ricans created hip hop. Then he said this rumor. What rumor? The rumor that Puerto Ricans had nothing to do with creating hip hop. The context is clear. Doggie wants this be be something. Stop the cap
Doggie will put hands on everyone but Fat Joe….. 😂😂
yankee is not a derogatory term...he just pretending to be offended, so he can attack other black groups. he never listen to tariq but repeat tariq talking points verbatim.
True, I think Yankee is just a northerner
@@subsystem101 technically its not. But when they use it its not in a positive manner. So therefore i dont let them call me that.
@@lovetiddays yankee is another word for American"... that how many places outside of the U.S called people from the there...again looking to be offended. are you offended by the New York Yankees
42:00 Nigeria and a lot of African and Caribbean names were trademarked by Europeans so let’s apply that same logic to everyone.. 👍🏽
@@Jedi_Black no they were not, stop f'king waffling
I'm no fan of Fat Joe but he was not talking about Black Americans as a whole, he was talking about Tariq Nasheed's FBA, that was clear as day...with that said...
I'm no fan of Tariq Nasheed nor FBA's xenophobic ways however if you talk slick and/or attempt to negatively diminish and/or dismiss the community and FBA come for you, then 🤷🏾♀️...
How is fat joe Is talking about Black Americans as a whole he clearly stated they don't want to hear from a black guy who doesn't agree with the FBA'S agenda
@@lizz741 FBA is a lineage so what he says was directed at all of us. Fat Joes ignorance about the community he chose to latch on is baffling.
42:00 Nigeria and a lot of African and Caribbean names were trademarked by Europeans so let’s apply that same logic to everyone.. 👍🏽
@thefascinatingfee I'm not on Twitter hatin' on folks so NO, Fat Joe was not talking about me...
@@thefascinatingfee Even more Tariq babble.
Hey my brother this is Dr colon please get at me. Doggie diamonds is being very disingenuous.
Doggy got put in the dog house!! He is definitely not a thinker.
He's looking bad to us Nyers with the Fba non sense and letting us down
Off top though.. these so-called “rumors” were not “created” by Tariq Nasheed or a “radical group of black racists”.. these “rumors”/historical claims were brought forth by actual “Black” brothers and sisters from THE BRONX, NY, that were there at the genesis of Hip Hop.
I get that bro! The only thing I was addressing was the fake sensationalism that Joe was referencing all “ black people”
@ word up.. as I continue to watch I do get your point in regards to that.
Doggie right ...
This is hard to watch
This is the blue print on how men conduct themselves when they disagree without demeaning behavior peace and power
doggie is that man when it comes to hip hop news but still a student in the affairs of nationality/nation building as we all are Islam to the moors up liftin fallen humanity with love truth peace and justice
Yes Black people can be racist ,FBA is the example of that‼️
How? So it’s racist when we for our own.
They are not rasist, because they literally belong to the same race, just from different spaces.we are seen as black no matter what we call ourselves, by thevpeople that matter most at this time ,whire people.@@tylercanton3836
@@pheno271 you don’t even know what racism is
The days of disrespecting Foundational Black Americans are done, take it how you want.
We can't be racist in OUR own COUNTRY!
Meaning of racist:
characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
I'm front line wit doggie diamonds 💎. Smooth delivery. Salute Moorish world tv aswell
Damn dude let the guest talk
Can't let fools spew bullshit!
@ Doggie Diamond was speaking facts but I do agree Fat Joe was not talking about all FBA’s
Doggie Diamonds ain't accurate on much topics. I unsubscribed from his channel when he shared a story of a man that approached him asking for food. He told the man to choose what he wants. The man told him he'll share the food for him and his friend he told the guy he will buy food for both men and they should choose what they want one order chicken and rice and the other something similar but he refuse to pay for the food after it cost around $8.00 I was shocked because Doggie Diamonds have supporters on his channel that's buying merchandise and promoting their music for the cost of a $100.00 but find it hard to buy $8.00 for food that's petty and mean. He is just on TH-cam to make money he represents nothing but his ego.
Early observations on the developments of Hip Hop and writers on American history recorded that Hip Hop was created Hispanics, Jamaicans and black Americans in Bronx New York. Tariq and many other so called foundational black Americans disregards the historicans documentations on Hip Hop history which is record also by Oxford dictionaries. It's racial prejudice and disrespectful. I heard black Americans disrespected Jamaican music and artistes calling them jungle bunniess very interesting times.
Trouble is all these people with this phenotype are seen as black by white people who control right now Any black referring to another black as a jungle bunnie is talking about about their own self also.
@@P.O.T.TPodcast the oxford dictionary eh? 😂 American historians. 😂
GS is overbearing, this was unhinged.
Precisely!!!
42:00 Nigeria and a lot of African and Caribbean names were trademarked by Europeans so let’s apply that same logic to everyone.. 👍🏽
Yea...he's a little too extra on this one
Taharka is so wrong about trademark as if a people with a similar name are owned by someone who files paperwork an pays a fee. Sad.
The Grand Shaykh is too sharp
Let’s gooooo
@MoorishWorldTv 💪🏽
@moorishworldtv Love your show Bro..but I gotta disagree on the Fat Joe thing on many levels. Keep me in mind if you do a Part 2
According to what the statement it was clear who he was referring to! Today I see he came and confirmed exactly what I said! You’re a journalist also so you should be able to understand the entire comment not a word “racist” the one word doesn’t represent the full thought! He literally says who he refers to
“N words in twitter” and “their leader”. We to stop looking for opportunities to victims! Are you available tonight! I’m doing a follow up!
@@MoorishWorldTv You gotta do some digging on FAT JOE. I'm seperating the foolishness of Tariq Nasheed and just focusing on the Foolishness that Fat Joe has been saying for quite sometime. FAT JOE should be more gracious considering that Black people put him on. FAT JOE was propped up by Black people (Lord Finesse, DITC, Diamond D). As soon as Fat Joe started to get big, he started spewing Latino pride, which is okay, but as the years went on, he became more of a HARDLINER. FAT JOE should have used better and more specific language. Since FAT JOE has been talking CRAZY for almost TWO YEARS, it is only natural that many Black people, such as my self and Doggie Diamonds took offense to the things he said. I don't consider Tariq Nasheed my leader. You have already identified him as an agent, grifter, and fraud. But FAT JOE needs to be stopped. He's gotten out of hand. We got to started doing like the Jewby Doobie Dews. If you attack Zionist Jewby Doobie Dews, ALL JEWS come for you. When you try to explain that you were only referring to the Zionist Jewby Doobie Dews, they don't want to hear it. CANCELED!! The Jewby Doobie Dews understand the concept of STAYING ON CODE!!! For the record, I support Taharka Bey and Doggie Diamonds. I don't support FAT JOE or Tariq NASHEED AKA MARCUS VINCENT THOMAS/SANDERS.
@@MoorishWorldTv Yeah I should be able to check in
The old Coolio looking dude is funny as hell. 😂😂😂😂😢😢😢😢
FBA,,4 life
42:00 Nigeria and a lot of African and Caribbean names were trademarked by Europeans so let’s apply that same logic to everyone.. 👍🏽
you corny...fba is small...we all in the same boat...under white oppression no matter what label you hide under
Fbi
Man you still on FBA 🌰 🤣😂😂
Taharka is moping the floor with dookie zirconia...dookie said he never listened to a word of tariq..wtf?!
See FBA we are in this country alone we all we got so we really need to tighten up as a nation of people fact
You are all confused. Aint no "FBA." We are all intermixed. Stop separating people of color.
You have people that are not technically FBA but support the cause, n some consider themselves FBA. He should have never trademarked it. Now u own it (get it). Now people come to u n use ya brand for wicked purpose. Now u sell out. You got blacks that are not FBA but claim it. Thats powerful. U ain’t but the NAACP new millennium.
Good luck with that, the black numbers are ineffective as it is.
Jesse Jackson wasn’t NO PIMP that’s For sure 😂😂
So you correct every word and intent that comes from a man's mouth as a journalist?? Come on G.S.
I thought he was doing that to me
I Bet You’ll Wake Up Thinking About #FBAs
Bro Taharka… you couldve easipy destroyed this Doggie Diamond fella about the racism comment… FBA doesn’t consider any other melenated people the same as they are
That’s because they aren’t. The same way Jamaicans aren’t the same Brazilians and hatians and aren’t the same as Dominicans even thought most of them arrived at their respected area almost at the same time
@dovsdont1706 whatever you just typed was one of the most idiotic statements I've read in a while. And this is why I say GS coulld've beat Doggie Dog with that one statement. YES! FBA is Racist. FBA tries to exert their rights to Americanism over other races and be gate keepers to this American experience. The same experience you say you hate and is unfair. You don’t consider immigrants the same as you because you unverifiably are descendants of slaves. I can almost guarantee that if you are FBA, you more than likely haven't done the research, you just assume that you have a few generations in this country and someone must've been a slave in your family tree. What's funnier, you don't acknowledge how your ancester became a slave in the first place. You just begin at slavery.
FBA considers themselves apart from the diaspora… so, yes, FBA can be racist in that sense. Not only that. If you are trying to gate keep and control access to economics or this American experince from Central/South Americans.. are they not of a different race? would that be a form of racism?
Yet, none of you speak on European immigrants… your focus is always on people with some level of melanin.
I think Tariq is an agent. But i screamed when he called you a snapping turtle 😂😂😂😂
I believe it too but isn’t if funny he’s never been exposed some people definitely are favored by karma lol
@moorish TV I don't know if you'll see this, but I called this dude out multiple times. I asked him for his lineage he so claimed to be in touch with, he said his family was in the neighborhood he grew up in for generations. I did research on that neighborhood. White people built it. So I'm assuming doggies ancestors are white!
Your great-grandmother was born in 1910. My grandmother was born in 1920.
At this moment, the term Foundational Black American is trademarked by Tariq Nasheed but FBA was trademarked by Amazon. Not even Claude Anderson, who inspired Tariq's new term, would go this hard on Fat Joe.
Facts it social media engineering at it finest
this swindler tried to skip&dip out the conversation twice!!!! Trying to talk so fast he got tripped 😅. Cornball
Tariq started the FBA thing in 2019
No he didn’t Claude Anderson started FBA y’all gotta get the facts right. It’s the spectators on the sidelines the ones causing the confusion.
Claude Anderson.
Doogie i don't think he's a real FBA
Bx n az …. I was born in 72 in the bx ,Latins were not saying nixxa till mid to late 80 s or it’d be a fight smh ,my dj ster from the bx was a Puerto Rican in 1988 & he’d get mad heat for doing Moreno music as Latins would hate and call it back then ,,wasn’t no 50/50 smh cmon ,jus look at the bloods in ny which had to start early 90 s because of Latins brutalizing blks hmmmm …also if Latins we’re there in the start then where’s the Latin samples in early rap songs hmmmm there isn’t any 😎😂😂😂because they weren’t creating rap as they claim ……FBA ….NYC …BX
T is making sense, sorry! especially about not wanting to be a leader because being afraid of being taken out. and not taking on all the responsibilities. make it make sense
It's tactical, not principal.
Folks really thought that a failed rapper in Tariq was going to take a hip-hop fixture like Fat Joe out the paint? 😅
It obviously doggie is afraid not to say the wrong thing to avoid consequences moorish world you are very smart I got 50 people here watching this and we’ll agree with you you should be the journalist and teach doggie
@43:56 doggie diamonds dodging them questions like trump dodges taxes
So are we just going to ignore the fat joe lie about hip hop that got people on his head to begin with? This dude just defending joe
You tripped up in saying he didn’t mean the literal dictionary version of “racist” cause he did, and he’s right. What Doggie Diamonds is talking about is “Institutional racism” a FORM of racism. A homeless bum on the street using the hard “ER” is still as racist even if he don’t have any power over you
I love the way the brothers left the podcast 🫶🏼
You said the same thing for 3 hrs 😂😂
Yes.
He said the same thing for 3 hours because the idiot he was debating with couldn't get past the first point that he was trying to make.
That's why I didnt stay for the whole thing. Too repetitive.
@@dlxinfinite7098You should have stood and seen how many times doggie diamonds got caught up on his own words, openly admits. He's not a part of the group on Twitter, so he owes Joe an apology 🤣
I'm listening and watching , this topic is important to me being a black lady I'm holding my comment until the end Of the show respectfully .🤔
A spirited conversation with a FBA brother. Is this the beginning of a bridge and reconciliation between MWT and Tariq
MIGHTY STRANGE you didn't set a clock for him and go back and forth like you debate others! Why is that G.S.??? I feel you tried to work the brother over with so called conscious style of debate! Not used to that from this channel, did you not consider that brother worthy as the others?? I'm just curious 🤔
I ain't Moor but I support them
You on the wrong side this time, Brother. This is taking the "enemy of my enemy" thing too far.
Wow! Just watched entire video. Please keep the format you started with, time limits, clock and mute button!😆 you don't need click/views, your channel is already thee ish!!
You gave your homie nore an out! You just openly admitted you didn't post the film because he said incriminating stuff on there there. You could have posted it and let him deal with the outcome later. It's not your job to give them an out
I didn't know we got a real brother like you
Question. Can you consider someone a racist when he or she is causing division based on ethnicity?
Doggie got dogged them beige bro’s sit this 1 out 😂
The first 7 mins sets the tone of DD thought on Joe and the situation, according to DD he knows Joe to a liar and embellishes on subjects he is talking about so DD is being critical on everything Joe is saying DD this is why he not allowing Taharka to interpret what Joe is trying to say. When DD opened up about the rumors, he already was saying THAT could be a lie. Taharka's take was well presented but still doesn't mean Joe isn't doing the same thing in DD point of view.
DD need too hold this ======> L
I'm catching up on your shows GS but it seems like you set them off with this one. Keep the pressure on them. As a concept, Only, FBA sounds good. But these cats whom are running around as the progenitors of their group's movement have nothing on the registry to check as "standing on business". Not even in a small town, where Black folks are the majority, does "FBA" have any sway or influence on the politics, budget, infrastructure, etc. Please keep exposing the logical fallacies that FBA tries not to see. I'm always taking notes.
YES HE DID SAY SOMETHING WRONG, >>> HE SPOKE OUT OF TURN PERTAINING TO SOMETHING HE WASN'T THERE TO WITNESS.
fact: YOU can possibly witness a child being born, ...but were YOU there to create it?
...nuff said!
This dude line skipping, goal post moving, not allowing folks to state their point, trying to get folks tripped up in nonsensical points.
Dude is not a good debater. Most of these Noteps aren’t.
Gs dude playing dumb
I'm listening and watching , this topic is important to me being a black lady I'm holding my comment until the end Of the show respectfully .🤔 GS
I don’t know who created the ability for anyone to just create podcast etc. I don’t know why the brother is trying to explain anything to an 85ver. Once he acts like he does not have knowledge of a corporation or entity and owns a business that’s a problem. You have a monetary platform utilizing another entities title on it and you don’t think it’s monetary? He says he has no leader… the kill of the whole debate was simple…. Would we be having this conversation if their was no FBA created? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 This dude like Panda Chop and Cuban Link all make a living off a man they try to assassinate daily. Their platforms are 90% Fat Joe but they dislike him? He’s making them money daily. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Goofy’s. What I loved was the simplest questions and he went around the sun like a planet. Wasted conversation brother.
Salute to Moorish world t.v and Doggie diamonds tv great platforms, i support both channels.
AAA ninja DOGGIE DIAMONDS DID THIS!!!!😊😊😅😂🎉
Look how facts turns in rumours.
truth be told it’s all a finesse somebody is getting paid off all this at the end of the day and the people in the background gets nothing but a ear full of bs!!
FBA ALL DAY
Doggie diamonds am Hotshaetz
You hit it on the money.
This was hard to watch. Neither one of you know what racism actually means. Never once pulled out a dictionary. Diamonds, you really took an L. This debate couldve been over in 20 mins.
What does racism mean then?
@Metatron-f6l if I remember correctly, from my 1962 American heritage dictionary, racism is the notion that ones ethnic group is superior. All that other mess about having power to stop opportunities is conjecture.
@@Metatron-f6l racism is to have power over another group of people systematically
Most people that use the word racist dont use it in the dictionary context. My personal definition of racist is someone who hates another person because of their race, so yes a black person can be racist according to my definition
43:50 This is how tethers argue.
FBA on ya head 😂
GS !!!!!!!!!!! Salute Point Made , One Has To Listen 👍